Thursday Rockpile: Prado and Oswalt the types of marginal players Rockies looking at this winter
by Rox Girl on Nov 10, 2011 7:23 AM MST
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If I were to ever have a baseball team of my very own and if I were to desire to fill the margins of the roster of said team, what kind of player would I want, you know, in the margins, off to the side so as to avoid going after big names? Why, I think I'd want Martin Prado, after all, since he plays so many positions it must mean other teams trust him coming off the bench. Or maybe I'd want Roy Oswalt, who apparently couldn't crack the 2012 rotation of a NL East team as a marginal sixth starter type, but the name sounds somewhat familiar.
This might turn out to be a long winter for those trying to make sense of what the team says in the front room vs. what it attempts to do in the back rooms, as the Rockies front office juggles keeping fan expectations low (as in Dan O'Dowd downplaying the team's winter desires to Dave Krieger last week,) while at the same time actually targeting some of the name brand players most fans would want to see come to the team, as in the two stories above linking the Rockies to Prado and Oswalt.
The pair actually fit the Rockies needs fairly well, and while I've been outspoken about not targeting old pitchers with known injury issues, Oswalt is probably the most palatable of that class available this winter. He also may turn out to be among the most expensive, but I still think he's unlikely to cost as much in salary as Carl Pavano, for instance, certainly won't cost a prospect in trade, and yet provide a better return.
I think it's pretty clear that the Rockies are wanting to add at least one fairly significant piece -along the lines of a Prado or Oswalt- to their puzzle this winter, it just must not be clear to the front office management if the team has sufficient resources available, either in players to trade or salary, to add said piece. The team expects to add nothing, but is hoping to add something, and it seems they want the fans to get into the same mindset.
Should the nothing added scenario unfold, at least there is good news coming from various places on the "internal development" front. At the bottom of the above linked Martin Prado piece in the Denver Post comes the news that Juan Nicasio's bullpen sessions have been "electric," and it's looking increasingly likely that he will be ready to start by Opening Day. A fast Nicasio recovery alleviates some of the need for starting pitching this winter, as the right-hander should save Jeff Aberle and other Rockies fans from the agonies of watching Esmil Rogers starts.
Rogers, along with Alex White, is actually one area of potential internal improvement with the rotation. A pitcher nee infielder with quality stuff, but who telegraphs his pitches like nobody in the league, needs only to add deception to see dramatic improvement in his results. If he takes that step this winter, I think a lot of Rockies fans will be surprised by the difference. Of course, if he doesn't, he'll probably get cut by the end of next Spring. Such is life as a real marginal roster player.
Nationals catcher Wilson Ramos was kidnapped in Venezuela, a horrific crime that makes my heart go out to Nationals fans. It recalls the kidnapping of Yorvit Torrealba's son a couple of years ago, and with a large current Venezuelan contingent, including Carlos Gonzalez and Jhoulys Chacin as natives of the country, and others like Eric Young Jr. down there for winter league, the security of Rockies players in the country will need to be closely scrutinized and hopefully they're taking every precaution to keep safe.
"To me, personally, he is the best hitter I have seen in this league," Brewer said of his potential future nemesis. "It's crazy because he's a 20-year-old kid, but his approach is advanced."
It's a good sign when future opponents have as much respect for a prospect as the D-backs' Charles Brewer has for current Salt River Rafters teammate Nolan Arenado. Arenado went 2 for 4 with his sixth home run and continues to advance exponentially ahead of a standard prospect learning curve, which is why Rockies fans can and perhaps should have hope for him contributing in a significant way to Colorado at the MLB level in 2012.
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Its very sad to hear about Ramos. Hope goes well with him.
Does anyone else have a concern about Nicasio returning so quickly? I hope that this quick return to action doesn’t hinder him in the future. Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad to see the kid going at it again. Maybe, it will allow him (in time), to better pin point his pitch, increase his velocity. I know this all hypothetical, but what’s the famous saying. " What doesn’t kill, makes you stronger?" Well, this injury very well could’ve done that, so I’m very much hoping he returns stronger. Arenado—-I can’t wait to see him in Denver in 2012.
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It seems that the biggest hurdle Nicasio is going to face from this point forward, is mentally being back on the mound with guys hitting a baseball right by you.
Its not like he’s coming off any sort of arm or shoulder injury.
As soon as he’s over that, he should be okay.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 10, 2011 7:57 AM MST via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
From what I've read
he seems to have the mental make-up to do that. He’s been gung-ho, “I’m ready to get back to pitching” almost from Day 1. I really like his attitude & would be thrilled to see him in the Opening Day rotation.
by maris61 on Nov 10, 2011 8:33 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
If he's ready, I want him to have the ball on Opening Day
Not as the Ace of the Staff™, just as a guy Chuck Norris envies.
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by Yokel on Nov 10, 2011 9:05 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know Nicasio personally but I did study Communication in college
And everything I’ve read in studies would seem to indicate that he has the type of personality that’s more likely recover from this. Certainly no guarantee, but the research says the odds are with us.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2011 8:39 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah, that's been my argument against him returning OD...
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 10, 2011 11:56 AM MST up reply actions
That has been the one thing I'd be most worried about with most pitchers
But least worried about with Nicasio. Dude is fearless
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 10, 2011 12:00 PM MST up reply actions
dude broke his neck.
I agree with you about fearlessness, but it’s not going to be THAT easy.
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 10, 2011 12:03 PM MST up reply actions
Not saying it will be easy, or that I expect him to be on the OD roster
Just saying of all players I’d choose to get over the mental demons, he’d top the list. And that I’m no longer expecting him to be off the OD roster.
"Some guy on the net thinks I suck, and he should know - he's got his own blog." - Nick Hornby
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 10, 2011 12:15 PM MST up reply actions
The news about Nicasio is terrifc
glad to hear he is recovering so quickly. That bodes well for his future regardless of whether he pitches in the spring or middle of the season. Fantastic news.
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OT: What the heck is going on at Penn State?
Why would students be rioting over a football coach losing his job? I can’t understand it. They turned over a news van!
I thought maybe they were protesting the fact that nothing was done sooner for those kids…but no..it’s because he was fired. Unbelievable.
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/45233483/ns/sports-college_football/
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In Pennsylvania, JoPa is a God
I hope their football program doesn’t win another game for 20 years.
Avalance 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
Well as long as he's a god...
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Can he coach baseball?
102 days until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
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I'm pretty sure he's done at Penn State in any capacity.
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What a sick culture.
Those students are basically saying Football is more important than anything.
But Ty Wigginton is an All-Star ?!?!
sad, sad, sad, sad
I got three cousins who are Lions and I could barely tease them about this….
But if anything, I hope it sheds light on reporting law and the sticky situation of what happens when you catch your boss doing something wrong. Notice the GA who originally reported it has not been indicted yet, and he was above 18 so……
But the greatest college coach in the history of the game just had basically 50 plus years of excellence rightly extinguished by bad hires and a horrific cover up. more people knew of this than has gotten fired and I hope they all go.
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by El Paso Jeff on Nov 10, 2011 8:39 AM MST up reply actions
this isn't a sex scandal
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 10, 2011 9:01 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
What I haven't seen explained
but maybe the grand jury testimony explains, is why didn’t the grad asst coach do something when he saw what was going on?
Some writer, I think it was on SI.com, put it in terms of, “You’re mid-20’s grad. asst who’s 6-4 and 210 and see an old ex-coach abusing a young boy in the shower? And all you do is go tell the head coach? Why don’t you confront the old coach right then & there & try to save the child from further abuse?”
Maybe the grad asst did stop it & we just haven’t been told that part. But that’s been bothering me and has gone unexplained in all accounts I’ve read.
I imagine he’s still under a gag order from the grand jury since the case is pending. He’s probably unable to make a statement that could jeopardize the case.
Now, as to why he’s still employed by the University….
Some days, I feel like I’ve accidentally entered the Church of Tulowitzki on Baseball Easter.
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The grad student who witnessed the assault and did nothing to stop it
He’s their WR coach and recruiting director, and he’ll be coaching on Saturday with the team.
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That university will forever rue Saturday if they let him coach in that game.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2011 9:31 AM MST up reply actions
I still can't believe they are actually going to play football the rest of the season
the NCAA’s silence on this case has been absolutely deafening.
Some days, I feel like I’ve accidentally entered the Church of Tulowitzki on Baseball Easter.
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The NCAA not think this is their problem is a joke too
If they want to wait for more info to come in to make a ruling that’s one thing but I have not heard so much as a statement from them. This is a rapidly spreading fire that they need to start containing now.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2011 9:36 AM MST up reply actions
It's not spreading out of Happy Valley yet
They’re right to let the court of law take precedence over the court of administrative ruling. Would that JoePa and Penn State had taken the same approach.
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That is because NCAA
Happens to be one of the most corrupt organizations in America.
It's Jim Tracy's Fault.
by wolf213 on Nov 10, 2011 10:28 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
especially since CU lost two scholarships for giving training table meals to walk-ons
this is death penalty stuff
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I read somewhere that he has taken a leave of absence, and he can't be found.
Avalance 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
That's ominous.
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"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
"... One order of buffalo wings, please..." -Yokel, after July 30, 2011
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I corrected myself below.
But he should go as well.
Avalance 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
I take that back Its the AD that took the leave of absence,
Not McQueary
Avalance 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
Now, as to why he’s still employed by the University….
The university has gotten everything wrong in spades regarding this matter so far so I’m almost not surprised anymore.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2011 9:30 AM MST up reply actions
If I am a witness to something like that, that old man is not walking out of that room.
Then the real cops are getting a phone call.
Not my dad.
Not my boss.
Not campus security.
Actual police officers.
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 10, 2011 9:41 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
This is a very sad situation and it disheartens me to hear these types of comments.
I understand the outrage over not reporting the alleged incidents directly to the police but JoePA did exactly what he was supposed to do as far as the policy is concerned. It is the moral implications that have taken a hold of this situation. It is so so sad and as as life long Penn State football fan it angers me to no end the way this has played out for JoePA. He is a legend in this state and does not deserve to go out like this. Jerry Sandusky is the true villian in this scenerio and deserves to rot in a prison for a long time. This is truely a sad day for all of us proud Pennsylvanians.
The bare minimum legal responsibility isn't good enough
There is a long track record of “something” happening at Penn State, and the administration actively turned a blind eye.
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by Muzia on Nov 10, 2011 9:24 AM MST up reply actions 4 recs
I agree
But it seems that we are making a villain out of Paterno, rather than going on a witch hunt for Sandusky.
JoePa should have done more, there is no question. But PA residents should have their pitchforks out looking for Sandusky, not arguing about whether JoePa should have been canned or not.
by CarloWitzki on Nov 10, 2011 10:22 AM MST up reply actions
He's not a "villain"
but he is the de facto face of Penn State, considering how important football is to Penn State. He must share in the responsibility. He’s even admitted he should have done more, (whatever that means).
He’s not a villain unless it comes out that he knew way more than is being stated, and still did nothing about it.
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They knew.
The mountain of evidence suggested by the grand jury in that affidavit? They knew.
They let him “retire” and covered it up, then turned a blind eye for the next decade.
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Very true.
Either way, it’s a sad day for humanity.
by CarloWitzki on Nov 10, 2011 10:34 AM MST up reply actions
I'm trying to be magnimous here.
How much did JoePa know and when did he know is my measure of his “villainy”.
That’s all I"m saying.
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There were campus police reports filed against Sandusky, as well as the grad student incident.
It happened multiple times within the Penn State locker room.
Are you telling me that Joe Paterno didn’t know about these events? I find it impossible to believe that the head of the program didn’t know what was happening with one of his top former assistants and a man that frequented practices and would get free football tickets, and would bring 10 year old boys with him to these events.
It’s a bullshit excuse. There’s no way he wasn’t aware of what was happening.
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He might not have known the extent of the situation.
Or chose to disbelieve it. It’s not right but it doesn’t make him in the same category as Sandusky at this point.
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Wrong is wrong is wrong is wrong
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Serious question
Should Joe Paterno be prosecuted in the same manner and under the same charges as Sandusky?
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He didn't rape anyone, as far as we know
He also hasn’t lied under oath.
Legally, Paterno did nothing wrong from the evidence we have so far. But morally? Very different issue.
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I am one that fels that Paterno and the college violated the intent of the law.
And I believe that he should be charged as an accessory or with obstruction of justice at the very least. The more I hear, the more I believe that Paterno and the college did the best they could to cover up these actions.
Avalance 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
There are many different levels of wrong
The one thing they have in common is they are all wrong and – assuming they are against the law – all deserve punishment. But levels of punishment vary for a very good reason!
On the other hand, I don’t think you have to be at the ninth level of wrong to get fired. It’s almost certain Paterno and many of his cronies must be fired.
His top assistant "retired" in the prime of his career
in 1999. In 1998 he was investigated by campus police on the same type of charges. I guess nothing has come out explicity stating that Paterno know about the investigation of his defensive coordinator, or that he knew why Sandusky “retired”. But it takes a more flexible imagination than mine to believe that he didn’t know exactly what was going on in both cases. And if he’s known about this for at least 13 years, and knew that the legal authorities weren’t being informed, and that Sandusky was still running a charity for young boys, and spending time with them, and he still said nothing? That tells me all I need to know about his willingness to look the other way. It’s revolting.
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by Junction Rox on Nov 10, 2011 12:05 PM MST up reply actions
All this…if circumstantial evidence could be damning, this would be one case that applies.
The cover-up from 2002-2011 is one thing. The 1998 incident, Sandusky’s 1999 retirement, and his access to the campus following that incident paints a really terrible picture for what happened at the university.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Every member of that administration is culpable
There is no varying degrees of guilt here (aside from Sandusky)
All it took was one person to step out and say there’s something bad going on here. Instead, the entire University administration made a point of emphasis to ignore it.
It’s despicable, it’s deplorable, and they should all lose their jobs for it at the very least.
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by Muzia on Nov 10, 2011 10:30 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
There are 40 counts against Sandusky now. If 38 are false, pitchforky is still an acceptable reaction to what occurred.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
39*
Sorry, I wasn’t suggesting that rape is okay the first time…I have fat fingers, apparently.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Sory, to be clear I mean the other people involved
In any potential cover up or facilitation or whatever. Sanduskys position seems cut and dried (though still requires legal process obv).
Good points all around.
Had someone stepped up, how many youngsters could have not suffered going forward?
Sandusky should have been locked up long ago.
by CarloWitzki on Nov 10, 2011 10:36 AM MST up reply actions
Sandusky is a whole different kettle of fish than JoePa in this situation.
I don’t want anyone to get me wrong here. I’m not saying JoePa is innocent because he’s not. But we don’t yet entirely know what he knew and when. I don’t defend it.
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I appreciate the questions you ask, and your level headedness.
I am a father of 3, so I am having a hard time not wanting the most severe punishment for all involved. I am most definitely biased, and have no issue with leaving the decision to the law.
Avalance 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
The bishops who covered up priests' sexual abuse
were doubtless fine men who had done many good things during many years of service to reach and maintain their important church positions. But that doesn’t excuse their failure to report the abuse to authorities or take every possible step to prevent further abuse.
Few would dispute Paterno’s fine coaching record and great service to Penn State (including his large donations to the school). But here, he put the institution’s interests and his own interests ahead of doing what he should have done — made sure the police were informed and Sandusky was banned from all Penn St. facilities immediately. For that, he deserved to be let go — immediately.
by maris61 on Nov 10, 2011 9:30 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Screw that (I wanted to use much harsher language there)
In what universe does a good man let horrific events like that go covered up. None. That is pure bull shit.
by mkorpal on Nov 10, 2011 9:30 AM MST up reply actions 3 recs
I'm not going to get into this,
except to say that I couldn’t disagree with this more. And I’m also from PA. Of course, Pitt folks like me didn’t have much of a stomach for Paterno anyway.
by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 10, 2011 9:37 AM MST up reply actions
All That Is Necessary For Evil To Triumph Is For Good Men To Do Nothing
In all things, it is better to hope than despair.
by butterfly on Nov 10, 2011 9:51 AM MST up reply actions 12 recs
greened
But Ty Wigginton is an All-Star ?!?!
by DAWNMARIE01 on Nov 10, 2011 10:07 AM MST up reply actions
Delusions
from PSU fans should be reserved for other blogs. Spare us, please.
As for the old man, he’ll be lucky to stay out of jail. Getting him off that sideline is the least of his problems. My guess is that as this develops, its gonna get worse.
it gets worse by the day
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 10, 2011 9:02 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Just reading the affidavit made me sick
if this is true……ugh. Just ugh.
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If it's true
Then this is one of the biggest scandals of ALL TIME – In or out of sports. Short of murder, this is about as disgusting as it gets.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2011 9:12 AM MST up reply actions
At least murder has an ending
Repeated sexual exploitation of minors doesn’t.
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by Muzia on Nov 10, 2011 9:16 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm personally refusing to read any of it
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2011 10:14 AM MST up reply actions
Raze that school. Burn it to the goddamn ground.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 10, 2011 9:22 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
There is certainly room for a dialogue about the masculinised sexualistaion of the entire US college structure
Perhaps this will push this discussion.
I don't know about "masculinized sexualization"
but the complete lack of focus on actual education has been criminal for about 30 years. And the athletics system is a major contributed to this situation.
by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 10, 2011 10:01 AM MST up reply actions
Agreed
And its not only in college…. Teachers will loose jobs in High School before any cuts are made to the Football Team.
It's Jim Tracy's Fault.
Well, everyone knows football is the most important thing in life!
/throws up
But Ty Wigginton is an All-Star ?!?!
by DAWNMARIE01 on Nov 10, 2011 10:41 AM MST up reply actions
Broad brush . Not all colleges and universities even have football programs
In all things, it is better to hope than despair.
Most are tied up in a pretty crappy system though.
by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 10, 2011 10:46 AM MST up reply actions
It means that over the span of the last thirty years
the American higher education system has lost its primary focus on education.
by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 10, 2011 10:50 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah, I'm not just talking about football/sports
In my (limited, removed) understanding, there is a culture of treating teenage girls like meat that sickens and frightens me. If that’s what they (both genders) believe life is like, then I fear for the future.
I think this is a bit of an overstatement
of the image portrayed by our media. Nevertheless, there is this idea that university is now somehow equally as important as a place to experiment and learn about life. This is to make up for the fact that the students are being taught less and less academically. And that this experimenting and learning about life can generate revenue from things like meal plans and on campus services.
by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 10, 2011 10:54 AM MST up reply actions
I'm sorry you have such a bad impression of The U.S.
In all things, it is better to hope than despair.
My impressions are many and fulsome and lots of them are fantastic
But yes, I do think that many of the very worst things about modern life and humanity are somehow that much more distilled in the US, primarily because it’s been at the forefront of isolationist, capitalist prosperity for 50 years.
Having said that, the Love side of the love/hate angle is WAY bigger than the hate.
Relatively, I think it's fair
Not to a huge or even always noticeable extent, perhaps, but it’s certainly there, in economics, in attitudes, in culture. The concept of unamericanism, for example, infers in the most obvious way that things outwith its borders are inferior and not to be trusted. Which, with respect, is bollocks.
But that is not isolationism
as much as anti-intellectualism or perhaps a form of jingoism. It ain’t like we don’t buy Asian cars and Chinese goods and watch British films.
I would disagree with the term.
by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 10, 2011 11:10 AM MST up reply actions
as if this is an American invention
Everyone here is from somewhere else especially if you go back a generation or two, hell there is a latino movement here who call themselves “the Race” and have you been to France? ever heard of caste system? the concept of Jingoism was born thousands of years before the old Etats Unis
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Yes, you're right! Of course you are
I’m just talking about the US, though, as it’s got a unique position in the world which is loosely based on a belief that it is an Eden, that it is superior, and this has been wildly reinforced over the last 50 years during which it has been a genuine superpower and a belief in superiority has been so easy to back up.
Nothing wrong with being proud of your homeland. Hell, I’m proud of being Italian, despite being about as British as they come in practice.
Ask the French about their wine
I’m sure they feel the same way. It’s human nature to be proud of your home. Often irrationally so. It’s hardly a character flaw.
Also, Colorado has the best beer on the planet.
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You lost me at GO GIANTS
I will never root for the Giants no matter what league. That does seem like a fun undertaking you all have started. Hope you all have loads of fun !!
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Gutted.
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You seem to have taken this personally :)
I wanted a NL team who would inspire strong emotion in both me and others, about which I already knew a lot, and with a decent budget & pitching staff. Taht’s all :)
That's a pretty broad indictment of our college system.
I think they are plenty of colleges here that are just fine for women to attend even with athletic programs.
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An acquaintance, and Mines alumnus, told me
that he wants to send his daughter to Mines, because it is safer than a convent.
by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 10, 2011 10:55 AM MST up reply actions
In my short time here,
I feel totally safe and at ease walking from one side of campus to the other, or even just hanging out with guy friends, some of which are athletes too.
The thing is, yeah: less focused, larger schools will have less focused students whose majority of priorities are either partying or sports. But with smaller schools with smaller programs, it’s possible to have fun and be safe. And even win once in a while.
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Nov 10, 2011 11:06 AM MST up reply actions
Yep. I went to big schools. It is harder to find your way there.
I think he also meant, somewhat jokingly, “safe” from the boys since they’re a lot more interested in computers than girls.
by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 10, 2011 11:12 AM MST up reply actions
Heh, well I don't know about that.
But I see what you’re tryin’ to say. Which is ironic considering the amount of guys- you’d think 25% of them would be interested in the girls, which would make it a one-to-one ratio, with a standard deviation of course.
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Nov 10, 2011 11:17 AM MST up reply actions
What makes their deviations "standard"?
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Nov 10, 2011 12:09 PM MST up reply actions
LOLs!
Part of my concern is I know what I was like as a young man – hell, not much has changed – and I was one of the more respectful ones…
I would argue that you are a lot less likely to find the
“big man on campus” types who tend to treat everyone as a commodity at Mines, but all the nerds I knew where pretty crazy for girls.
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It is a broad indictment.
But Biondino acknowledged above that it was made as a generalization and not as an outright conclusion.
I disagree with Biondino on a LOT of things, but I empathize with this. Traditional masculinity from teenage years through young-adulthood is a disaster. Indeed, I wouldn’t limit that accusation to just this country, it’s a problem everywhere. What most young men thing young men are supposed to be is offensive to me, and always has been.
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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 10, 2011 12:35 PM MST up reply actions
IAWTC
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Nov 10, 2011 12:37 PM MST up reply actions
The problem with "traditional masculinity"
Is that it’s neither traditional nor particularly masculine.
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I disagree with the idea that it isn't traditional.
Lots of different ideologies see fathers raising their boys to be “men”. But I am absolutely willing to hear an argument on the second claim, as it’s a very easy term for me to vilify when something else may be the root cause.
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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 10, 2011 12:40 PM MST up reply actions
Traditionally, young men that age would be put to work
To begin learning a trade in which they would provide for their families for the rest of their life. It was a rite of passage by productivity and responsibility. (When I say “traditional” I tend to think really long-term.)
The more modern idea of masculinity is a much more sexualized idea, and has nothing to do with productivity and responsibility, traits which are more inherently masculine in the bigger picture than just focusing on the sexual.
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I see the distinction you're making.
I was definitely thinking “modern tradition”, which to me is not such an oxymoron, moreso than a long-term historical viewpoint. That said, my issues go beyond just sexuality, and I’m not sure I’d be comfortable with it dating back for quite some time.
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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 10, 2011 12:58 PM MST up reply actions
I guess I have a different view on "tradition."
Grew up on a farm, had classmates in HS miss class because they were out calving, that sort of thing.
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Very different from my upbringing, for sure.
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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 10, 2011 1:06 PM MST up reply actions
I didn't realise we disagreed on a LOT of things!
I’m naive that way. In any case, you’re never negative towards me (except that tiem I called you Wolfie) so I’m happy to continue being in civil disagreement!
When I was a teacher I also coached
football, basketball, soccer, and track. I agree with the great lessons kids get from athletics. The NCAA has nothing to do that.
There are many other factors besides athletics that contribute to the lack of focus on real education. Most of these factors are based around making more money. It’s sad.
by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 10, 2011 10:45 AM MST up reply actions
I wish we could go to club sports ala Europe
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Every time I see an update I think it can't possibly get worse...
and it does with every new report that comes out.
by Jason Wells on Nov 10, 2011 11:08 AM MST up reply actions
Interesting note
According to this map on ESPN, only 57% of the nation Joe Paterno should have been fired. Certainly a yes but that’s not an overwhelming percentage.
Also interesting, Massachusetts has BY FAR the largest “Yes” vote of any state.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2011 9:43 AM MST up reply actions
err.
of the nation believes Joe Parerno should have been fired…..
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2011 9:44 AM MST up reply actions
That's also a pretty skewed sample...
57% of people who responded to a survey on ESPN.com – my guess is a majority of the people who don’t read ESPN would vote differently.
Goodbye 2011, hello uncertainty about 2012...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 10, 2011 1:11 PM MST up reply actions
Far from scientific, for sure.
Fans on various message boards are prone to “stuffing the ballot” on those kinds of polls.
Normally though when that happens you can see it in a reigion
Here it’s pretty flat across the board (other than PA and the Dakotas).
At least I’m pretty confident that the nation undoubtedly has a more resounding yes than this,
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2011 6:12 PM MST up reply actions
Don't disagree
But it’s still a significant chunk of a large samle of readers who don’t think he should have been fired. I’m a little surprised by it considering the information we have at ou disposal.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2011 6:10 PM MST up reply actions
Of course not
I don’t expect all ESPN voters to be educated regardless of the topic. That explains a small chunk (on both sides of the issue). It does not explain the 40% + we see here.
I don’t have a huge issue with this. People have a right to their own opinion and also have a right to want more information before they move to the yes category – I’m just surprised at the number here, even if it is ESPN.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2011 6:50 PM MST up reply actions
To your point, CNN posted the same poll and is currently showing 74% agree with firing
Still not scientific, of course, but speaks to the bias built in to any given reader base.
Just a small town kid who thinks Coors Field on a sunny summer Saturday night is the best place to be on this or any other plane of existence. When a late-inning Todd Helton go-ahead homerun is added to this scenario, my brain melts.
Nebraska is close to Mass, in that respect...
But I’m sure that has nothing to do with Saturday’s game, or the travesty from 1982, or the dual undefeated seasons in 1994…
/Nebraska homer
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It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
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by hotdoglady on Nov 10, 2011 12:58 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you for posting this!
And we have missed you!
Hope you are doing okay.
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Missed you all too.
work is so great – keeps me very very busy, but oh so good for me!
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That's excellent!
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.... I need a job. :'(
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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 10, 2011 1:10 PM MST up reply actions
PRMLB Folks:
The draft was completed yesterday. The final results are posted here: http://www.purplerow.com/2011/11/9/2549028/prmlb-team-draft
I’ll be posting a rules and settings document to discus tomorrow. The website will be finalized over the weekend.
Next week we will finalize the rules and settings, and get the procedures setup for the uploading and downloading of team files for sims.
Better written:
Tomorrow, I will post a rules and settings document for discussion.
by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 10, 2011 8:29 AM MST up reply actions
I just simmed (sp?) my first season with the Phillies..
Without making any changes and they finished in last place in the NLEast. That should put me in the lead, right?
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by Charlie77 on Nov 10, 2011 5:00 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
My first simmed season they beat the Red Sox 4-2 in the WS
feel better?
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Oswalt makes sense in only one respect
If JDLR is forecast to be back to full strength by mid-season, then Roy O. as a half-season fill-in as the staff ace makes some sense. A rotation without a No. 1 starter/ace can take a team out of contention pretty quickly, unless the team has superior hitting and a great bullpen (see Rangers, Texas). The Rockies don’t have the hitting to overcome an ace-less staff and their bullipen is good, not great.
But if the Rockies are thinking that Oswalt can fill the role of 200+ IP innings-eater, think again. He’s had serious back problems for 3 years in a row. He’s as much a full-season starter as Todd Helton is a fulltime 1B — which is to say, he isn’t.
I don’t give the “looking at Oswalt” rumors much credibility. Just “we’re trying to do something” PR is my guess. A team that’s hesitant to commit to even a guaranteed Major League contract for Kevin Milwood is going to spring for big bucks to sign Oswalt (perhaps to a multi-year deal) for what is likely to be a half-season of service? I’m not buying that.
As an ex-Astro fan, I love Roy O. He’s long been one of my favorite players. But he’s old, has a chronically bad back and should retire gracefully or do something like Pedro Martinez did at the end his career: take off until July or so, pick a team that’s likely to make the playoffs, and pitch as well as you can through the end of the pennant race & playoffs.
I think he could also fit in as a player/mentor for the young staff,
I agree that Oswalt doesn’t fit as the reliable 200+ IP guy the team says that it’s looking for, but he’d be an upgrade over what the Rockies currently have in their rotation and likely wouldn’t cost as much as similar upgrades due to all the health questions.
Maybe he'd do an incentives-laden deal, and I'd be all for that
But I doubt it, because he probably doesn’t have to do that to get a job.
He’s averaged 174 IP per season the last 3 seasons, which is more than I would’ve guessed. (Though only 139 this year.)
I don’t know about the mentoring part. He’s a good guy and respected by his teammates,
but he’s a bit of a loner, from what I’ve been able to tell.
Oswalt and Helton would probably go to Cracker Barrel together at least twice a week
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That's kind of what I meant
Roy O has been good pals with his fellow good ol’ boy types — Peavy, Lee, Clemens — and he and Helton would doubtless hit it off well. But whether he’d fill a mentoring role with young Latin pitchers, I don’t know.
Now Bettis, maybe, if he sticks with the Rockies: “Follow Roy O around & pitch like him.” Indeed, Bettis reminds me a lot of the young Roy O.
I think White's got a bit of that in him, too
and I think he was really the pitcher I was thinking could benefit from Oswalt being around.
Or Country Buffet
Goodbye 2011, hello uncertainty about 2012...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 10, 2011 11:16 AM MST up reply actions
Ah, Country Buffet...
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Nov 10, 2011 11:23 AM MST up reply actions
What about Waffle House?
But Ty Wigginton is an All-Star ?!?!
by DAWNMARIE01 on Nov 10, 2011 11:27 AM MST up reply actions
Can Golden Corral get a shout out?
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Yeah.. you're right. It does kind of suck
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They have seafood now thats pretty good.
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by Charlie77 on Nov 10, 2011 5:03 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Seafood at a buffet????
I think that turns into a late night date with the bathroom….
It's Jim Tracy's Fault.
As opposed to Golden Corral's offerings in general?
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Hey look everyone!
It’s Martin Prado! This year’s Michael Young- except not as good at that thing we call baseball.
…but much cheaper, with no long term commitment, and still much better than any other internal options!
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and probably still not going to be a Rockie!
Just like MY
I dunno
Jurrjens is the hot commodity with the Braves right now. If we submit a reasonable offer, a deal should be possible.
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Rockies should not be blamed for young
They had him until Ryan backed out. And Prado could be a Rockie if they don’t demand dex
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 10, 2011 9:04 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
I agree.
It’s easy to see why TEX backed out of the reported deal. Were they not going to eat half of MY’s remaining salary and take EY? Would have been a deal for COL.
half the salary, and take Blackmon in the deal
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blackmon was also rumored to be involved I think
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 10, 2011 9:08 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
"no long term commitment" is a positive?
wouldn’t it be better to go after someone who we want to have a long term contract with?
I know there might not be many if any options out there but I want the Rockies to think bigger.
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well, he still has two years of arbitration left
so we would have control for two more seasons, but don’t have to have him for two more seasons.
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Here the issue I have with this right now
There’s two ways to get a commitment long term.
1) Sign a free agent long term.
All the options here are probably too expensive for the Rockies or are not worth the trouble to sign long term because you will have an ageing player that is tying up funds when we really need the $ to make a run at a championship (2013 and beyond).
2) Make a trade
Anyone who’s going to be good that you are trading for several years of control is going to cost you top prospects. This is a huge isse because the Rockies have gone through a long dry spell devoid of significant, young, impact talent hitting the big club. I still maintain that this is the single biggest reason we’ve seen the club regress over the last couple of seasons. Now that we’re getting close to the point where a large wave of talent is going to hit the system, the club’s best move is to have patience and let it get here – Because in a couple of years, it will be worth the wait.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2011 9:08 AM MST up reply actions
And to be clear
I’m not saying don’t improve the club in 2012 – I’m saying don’t go overboard trying to improve the club in 2012 and damage 2013 and beyond (which looks awesome right now). Striking a blaance here is where DOD will earn his money this winter.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2011 9:16 AM MST up reply actions
Mostly agreed
1) The only way to win the FA game (for almost all ML teams) is get lucky with a Kelly Johnson 2 year type deal where he is his 2010 self not 2011.
2) I am in the camp that you need to use those values of those prospects to get back what you need at the ML level. So many prospects don’t work out and I really truly don’t believe it will be worth the wait for almost all of the prospects we write about so highly.
I really just want the Rockies to look higher than a Prado. If it is not 2B then so be it. I want impact.
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All of them certainly won't work out but the law of large numbers says that if you have this many good propects appraoching the big club
then some of them are bound to make an impact – and if all goes well a significant one. It’s the Rockies job to figure out which ones will make the biggest splash and not let them go. Very tricky, but really the key to our long term success.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2011 9:50 AM MST up reply actions
Sometimes you have to trade some of your prospects to get those players to put your MLB club over the top
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 10, 2011 9:58 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Random never gonna happen trade thought of the day
Angels are looking for an experienced right handed late inning reliever, a catcher, and some on-base skills (per MLBTR). Anyone over there we like for Street and CDI? Besides Trout, of course, who is unavailable.
by BostonTransplant on Nov 10, 2011 9:57 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Vernon Wells with the Angels eating a bunch of his salary in the process?
That might be fun.
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by Gasstation1 on Nov 10, 2011 10:07 AM MST up reply actions
. . . . . . .
We have different definitions of “fun”
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It'd be an "upside" move (this is me winking)
Scary thought: what would happen if Wells chemical properties were mixed with those of Ian Stewart? What impact would that have on our club’s overall hog-slopping ability?
Oh my.
Just a small town kid who thinks Coors Field on a sunny summer Saturday night is the best place to be on this or any other plane of existence. When a late-inning Todd Helton go-ahead homerun is added to this scenario, my brain melts.
by Gasstation1 on Nov 10, 2011 10:16 AM MST up reply actions
This doesn't sound like fun, no fun at all.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 10, 2011 10:19 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Howie Kendrick!!
/sadly never gonna happen
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Or maybe it could
his last year of arb – might not be completely out of question.
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Also in the "sadly never going to happen" category...
Ervin Santana. The thing is: as deep as thier rotation is – and with the rumors they might add a CJ Wilson or Mark Burhle – Santana might not be totally unavailable.
But what kind of PURP would we have to add to the deal to make that happen?
Just a small town kid who thinks Coors Field on a sunny summer Saturday night is the best place to be on this or any other plane of existence. When a late-inning Todd Helton go-ahead homerun is added to this scenario, my brain melts.
by Gasstation1 on Nov 10, 2011 10:19 AM MST up reply actions
That was my thought too
by BostonTransplant on Nov 10, 2011 10:30 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
they have the cap space to do that? .. .
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 10, 2011 12:00 PM MST up reply actions
payroll space*
last I heard, the Angels were going to have a 2012 payroll between 120-130 mill….
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 10, 2011 12:00 PM MST up reply actions
Rod Barajas signed by the Pirates.
BrentSGambill Brent S. Gambill
Pittsburgh Pirates (@BucsInsider) signed catcher Rod Barajas to a one-year deal with a club option for 2013.
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Hope that doesn't mean McKenry is out of a job
Maybe he’s going to the backup.
He had an OK year for a backup catcher. Something the Rockies should remember next time they let go a “AAAA player” without giving them a real Major League tryout.
it's fine they let him go.
even at pitt, he was pretty bad. i’m sure he’ll improve, he has a great work ethic and attitude towards improving, but I can never see him being a regular MLB catcher. career backup, IMO.
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 10, 2011 12:01 PM MST up reply actions
He was just as good as Morales and better than Alfonzo IMO
Would’ve rather had him backing up Iannetta this season than either of those two considering his upside was better than Morales and Alfonzo
2011: A new year and a new chance at a championship.
Update on Wilson Ramos
AdamKilgoreWP Adam Kilgore
Authorities say Wilson Ramos is alive. RT @rafaelrojasc VZ Intelligence police confirm WIlson Ramos is still alive #Nationals.
As good as news as could be had so far.
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Of course he's alive.
He isn’t worth any money dead. And VZ intelligence knows this because they’re complicit in the kidnapping.
by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 10, 2011 10:47 AM MST up reply actions
What?
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The part about VZ intelligence being implicit. That's a pretty serious charge.
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I'm not saying that Chavez himself is ordering kidnappings,
but that a system exists in Venezuela in which this has become tolerated.
by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 10, 2011 11:02 AM MST up reply actions
I mean:
1) He is not dead because people get kidnapped in Venezuela for the money that is paid in ransoms. He isn’t worth any money dead.
2) There is a reason why multimillion dollar athletes from other countries of similar developmental stature and corruption do not get kidnapped even close to as regularly as those from Venezuela. The reason is that the government agencies are complicit in the kidnappings at one level or another.
by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 10, 2011 10:59 AM MST up reply actions
Kidnappings can go wrong and people can be killed.
It’s just good to hear there is proof of life in this case.
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This is true.
But a system now exists in which these guys are so professional that I think that that likelihood is pretty small. Sadly.
by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 10, 2011 11:03 AM MST up reply actions
OT: Things that suck but are not tragic
Pink eye and colds.
Yay for the double whammy!
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My mom had both on her honeymoon
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 10, 2011 11:29 AM MST up reply actions
Okay that is a little bit tragic.
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Pink eye is rotten.
I’ve had it twice, and both times it was far more debilitating than I could have imagined.
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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 10, 2011 12:38 PM MST up reply actions
I had it once before like 10 years ago.
In both eyes. I have blue eyes so I looked like I was possessed.
It left scar tissue which the eye doctor took off with tweezers….that was the freakiest thing I’ve ever experienced.
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My eyes are watering just reading that.
Think about how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! --George Carlin
Heh. I had no idea he was going to do it either.
I had my head in that contraption for the examination. And he says welp you’ve got some scar tissue, let’s just get rid of it. So he puts anesthetic drops in both eyes. And comes at my eye with giant long tweezers. I could feel him tugging on my eyeball. Cree.P.
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Ewwwwwww ewwwwwww ewwwwwww ewwwwww
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
/it is a new beginning, right?
by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 10, 2011 4:33 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
From someone whose idea of torture is that damned glaucoma test:
STOP IT! YARRRRRRGH!
Think about how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! --George Carlin
Hahahahaha.
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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So many sad things on this thread, and hard discussions. I love PR.
I have the rest of the day to do positive and helpful things for others . I think this will help.
Get better , Cat :)
In all things, it is better to hope than despair.
Yay butterfly! Have a good day.
and thanks :) This, too, shall pass
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Which makes me think of something that will cheer you up:
The actual video, not the meth ad haha
Goodbye 2011, hello uncertainty about 2012...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 10, 2011 1:15 PM MST up reply actions
Heh...thanks
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LOL
Wheeler is project to be nothing more than a 4th OF if he ever even makes the major leagues. IF Prado is traded it needs to be for one of their very top prospects like Arenado.
Wheeler is a lock to at least make the majors now, health willing
Talking Chop has tried putting Arenado in there day too
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 10, 2011 12:33 PM MST up reply actions
they are pretty proud of Martin over there
by CarloWitzki on Nov 10, 2011 12:46 PM MST up reply actions
Trying to sell high...
on a player coming off a .687 OPS season
by Jason Wells on Nov 10, 2011 12:54 PM MST up reply actions
Hudson?
Thoughts from the peanut gallery on that one?
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"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
"... One order of buffalo wings, please..." -Yokel, after July 30, 2011
Would have been cool in 2008
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He’s got 10/5 and, from all comments, wants to retire with Atlanta. Georgia-born, grew up in Alabama, so he’s right at home.
I’m not sure the Braves would be willing to give him up, in any event. He’s the undisputed leader of the team, in all things mound-related. If there’s a big game, he’s usually taking the mound for it. If a hitter needs to take one between the shoulder blades, he’s usually the guy to throw it. You won’t find many players more competitive on the field and genuinely good off of it.
Despite the amazing depth the rotation has, I really hope the Braves pick up his option and/or re-sign him, when that time comes.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
I think he's referring to Orlando Hudson, as per the MLBTR article
though I would take Tim Hudson in a Rockies uniform ;)
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I'm a weiner.
Must remember the up button is my friend…
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Eh, you and I were reading the same thread
I don’t know what these other people are talking about… :-)
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by Junction Rox on Nov 10, 2011 2:29 PM MST up reply actions
Arenado for Prado, Jurrjens
And a promise to never play Freddie Freeman against the Rockies.
Altar Boy in the Church of Santo Ubaldo
"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
"... One order of buffalo wings, please..." -Yokel, after July 30, 2011
would hurt very badly
to see Arenado go away.
He's not going anywhere according to Renck
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Anywhere but Cooperstown!
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Nov 10, 2011 1:27 PM MST up reply actions
lol @ the conversation.
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Nov 10, 2011 4:11 PM MST up reply actions
Since everyone is bummed by the depressing topics,
here are some profound and inspirational words: http://www.lettersofnote.com/2011/11/delusion.html
Letters of Note is a great site. Everyone should read it everyday.
OT: Other cool things.
Surfer rides record wave in Portugal
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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My work is done.
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BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Best day in baseball
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/10/3257301/best-days-in-baseball-stay-with.html#ixzz1dKU916ZU
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Backwards day in the AFL
Arenado goes a mere 1-5.
Tim Wheeler goes 2-5, RBI
Ben Paulsen goes 3-5, 2 2B, 3 RBI
Some days, I feel like I’ve accidentally entered the Church of Tulowitzki on Baseball Easter.
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1-5?!?!
He’ll never make it in the bigs
Goodbye 2011, hello uncertainty about 2012...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 10, 2011 4:15 PM MST up reply actions
Opens his hips too early.
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2011 4:20 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
And they don't lie!
Goodbye 2011, hello uncertainty about 2012...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 10, 2011 4:40 PM MST up reply actions
Lol I was just trying to make a Shakira joke
Goodbye 2011, hello uncertainty about 2012...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 10, 2011 7:51 PM MST up reply actions
Well, there's a reason I hope he doesn't make it to the majors
/Lives in Colorado Springs… :-)
Goodbye 2011, hello uncertainty about 2012...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 10, 2011 9:14 PM MST up reply actions
Scott Beerer was just signed to a minor league deal by the Orioles
"Some guy on the net thinks I suck, and he should know - he's got his own blog." - Nick Hornby
"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 10, 2011 4:19 PM MST reply actions
While looking for a photo of Scott Beerer
I found these:
Charlie Blackmon
Christian Friedrich imitating Jerry Weinstein, new Rockies catching coach
"Some guy on the net thinks I suck, and he should know - he's got his own blog." - Nick Hornby
"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 10, 2011 4:27 PM MST up reply actions
This just brightened my day
Goodbye 2011, hello uncertainty about 2012...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 10, 2011 4:31 PM MST up reply actions
sports can be.....fun? silly?
Who knew?
Some days, I feel like I’ve accidentally entered the Church of Tulowitzki on Baseball Easter.
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Well the only people who think sports can't be fun
are the people who’s only exposure was the 2011 Rockies season
Goodbye 2011, hello uncertainty about 2012...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 10, 2011 4:39 PM MST up reply actions
this past 48 hours has been rough on that part of me that loves sports.
Some days, I feel like I’ve accidentally entered the Church of Tulowitzki on Baseball Easter.
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Yup I agree
I’m sorta avoiding reading any more about the whole Penn State thing – it’s put me in a really weird mood these past few days.
Goodbye 2011, hello uncertainty about 2012...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 10, 2011 4:43 PM MST up reply actions
I’m really curious what his book turns into…
Some days, I feel like I’ve accidentally entered the Church of Tulowitzki on Baseball Easter.
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I just now read that. Great piece.
I don’t envy him trying to deal with all the conflicting thoughts and emotions, given how immersed he’s been there for months.
He's a brilliant writer. If anyone can make sense of the conflicting emotions, he can.
It’s very odd that he is living at the University this year, of all years….
Some days, I feel like I’ve accidentally entered the Church of Tulowitzki on Baseball Easter.
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My goodness that man can write
"Take the first step in faith. You don't have to see the whole staircase, just take the first step" Dr. MLK Jr.
I'm wowed by every article of his I read
With so many writers out there, it is amazing he can be so much better than everyone, and so consistently
"Some guy on the net thinks I suck, and he should know - he's got his own blog." - Nick Hornby
"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 10, 2011 8:08 PM MST up reply actions
This is because there really aren't many WRITERS,
just a lot of journalists or sportswriters.
by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 10, 2011 8:09 PM MST up reply actions
That's a good way to put it
"Some guy on the net thinks I suck, and he should know - he's got his own blog." - Nick Hornby
"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 10, 2011 8:11 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah. I don't agree with much of what he is saying.
He’s now too close really, and, frankly, is not the kind of person I would expect a biography from. He’s not known for objectivity.
I was going to write this earlier, but refrained. I am not one of those people who feel holier than thou about this. Everyone who says that they know exactly what they would do in Paterno’s situation really doesn’t. These are difficult situations that are not easy to get through once you are in the middle of them. I know this from my own personal experience in education.
That being said, a lifetime of good deeds does not make up for a mistake of this nature. It just doesn’t. Although Posnanski is maintaining that Paterno is responsible, he’s also suggesting that he should be cut some slack. Life isn’t like that, nor should it be. That’s the same kind of attitude that allows people to continue to slip and make mistakes or do worse.
by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 10, 2011 5:23 PM MST up reply actions
I agree he’s too close, which, I think has led to his self-acknowledged conflicted feelings. I didn’t necessarily agree with everything he said either, though I did agree with some of his points (like about some among the media or elsewhere trying to compete about who is more against molestation, etc.—people can disagree on some stuff while still agreeing on the seriousness of what happened). I don’t really think he’s saying a lifetime of good deeds makes up for anything. I think he was just trying to say that those deeds are not erased, and Joe Paterno isn’t suddenly a horrible, evil human being. He probably was completely genuine with most of those good deeds. That doesn’t mean he didn’t make a terrible mistake and exercise horrible judgment. And that is never (nor should it) going to go away.
Maybe it's because I don't have cable,
but I see a lot more people providing comments supporting Paterno than anyone calling him a horrible or evil human being.
Anyway, the Isaacson Jobs biography in its excellent mix of proximity and objectivity while trying to describe many sides of a complex person without trying to come up with an opinion about the whole man. It bothers me that Posnanski is already writing that:
But, beyond complications — and I really believe this with all my heart — there’s this, and this is exclusively my opinion: Joe Paterno has lived a profoundly decent life.
But this is what many authorized biographies end up being—celebrations rather than examinations.
by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 10, 2011 5:55 PM MST up reply actions
And, all of this being said, he is a brilliant writer
and I enjoy reading him.
by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 10, 2011 5:56 PM MST up reply actions
likewise.
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2011 5:11 PM MST up reply actions
Oh and the surfer video didn't? :(
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I hope theh dont trade me, I'm not going to Canada..
I ain’t paying those taxes.
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by Charlie77 on Nov 10, 2011 5:12 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Haha, yeah.
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Nov 10, 2011 5:32 PM MST up reply actions
Another man with a nice 'stache!
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Is this from Mr. Baseball?
Small aside as it is a bigger deal than my semi-pro career… My sister used to be Tom Sellecks personal script reader. She was the one that assured him Mr. Baseball would be a hit because her “little brother” absolutely loved baseball so it would be a timeless classic.
Somehow I still feel responsible.
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OT: Has anyone on twitter been getting random blank space showing up on your timeline lately (like a missing tweet)?
When I click on it, I see replies to a tweet from various accounts I don’t follow. So weird.
sweet merciful crap, Marlins.
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
/it is a new beginning, right?
by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 10, 2011 6:01 PM MST reply actions
I read these were not real...
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
They are not
They were created by a fan based on the known color scheme and logos. That’s it
"Some guy on the net thinks I suck, and he should know - he's got his own blog." - Nick Hornby
"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 10, 2011 8:09 PM MST up reply actions
This has been floating around SportsLogos.net's boards:
Most people feel it’s pretty legit:
Good:
Simple design, I think I like the orange piping
Bad:
Home uniform should say “Marlins”
I don’t like that the first “M” is colored like the primary logo and the other letters only have an orange drop-shadow
Don’t think I like the black cap, but there’s a tradition for that in Florida so I can live with it
"Admirably obsessive." - Uni Watch, March 24th, 2009
Looks like a college baseball uniform
"Some guy on the net thinks I suck, and he should know - he's got his own blog." - Nick Hornby
"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 10, 2011 8:10 PM MST up reply actions
Looks like a college kid too
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JFK
I don't like that "MIAMI" is in all caps.
The typography is horrible. It doesn’t flow together at all.
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Way to keep things in perspective, Scooter....
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Nov 10, 2011 7:59 PM MST up reply actions
Popes dying is awesome
They’ve gone to a better place which they’ll be pretty pleased with, so I don’t feel too bad saying that. But the reason it’s awesome is because we then get the election of a new pope and all the circus around it – I love so much that they get to choose a name! – and it’s all fascinating and anachronistic.
OT: My sister is due tomorrow.
I really hope he decides to finally make his entrance tomorrow, so his birth date will be 11/11/11.
Nice...congratulations!
Another Scorpio in the world…woo hoo.
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For any PRMLB folks who are still around and didn't notice,
I posted two new FanPosts with items to address. Take a look.
http://www.purplerow.com/2011/11/10/2553503/prmlb-question-3
http://www.purplerow.com/2011/11/10/2553535/prmlb-rules-and-regulations-discussion
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