Saturday Rockpile: Rockies Show Interest in Grady Sizemore
by Bryan Kilpatrick on Nov 12, 2011 9:48 AM MST
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PrintRockies show an interest in Sizemore - The Denver Post
While the Rockies reported remain focused on acquiring Martin Prado from Atlanta, they have also been talking with the Grady Sizemore camp. He is an interesting bounce-back candidate; the 29 year-old outfielder last showed a pulse on a baseball field in 2009, when he hit .248/.343/.445 in 106 games for Cleveland. Sizemore, who has been absolutely overwhelmed with injuries in his career, is likely not a centerfielder going forward, although there may be other teams (Athletics, Red Sox, Mets among others) that would consider giving him a chance to play there anyway.
If the Rockies were to take a flier on Sizemore, I would prefer that it be an incentive-laden, single-year deal. If that's not good enough to get him, so be it. Let's just get Prado, K guys?
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The Phillies have earned so much revenue over the past few years that they apparently have no problem with literally throwing it away. Sure, Papelbon is coming off a very good bounce-back year after he struggled with his command in the two prior seasons. However, he is a relief pitcher. That's just nuts. Plus, he's a total you-know-whatted you-know-what.
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VERY Incentive-laden Contract...
That’s the only way I’d want to see Sizemore at Coors. He has to prove again that he can stay healthy, and produce. Could happen, but too much risk to throw-away money at. Now please excuse myself, while I go start a small bonfire of all of my Astros belongings. Thanks, Unkie Drayton, Toupee Tal, Enigmatic Eddie, and most of all “Proud to be your Bud” Selig!
Sizemore a few years ago was a top 5 outfielder.
I’d be interested, but the fact his body is broken doesn’t help.
They need to forget about Sizemore and concentrate on getting Prado.
nothingelseshouldmatterrightnow.
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What's this obsession with Prado?
Nice player, no doubt, but coming off an awful year offensively and a meh defender. You sure you aren’t falling for the O’Dowd/Tracy “he can play anywhere, he’s so cool!” mystique? I’d trade Seth for him, but JUST barely and only because I don’t think very highly of him. I would not trade Blackmon and an A prospect.
If Sizemore only wants a one year deal, and its incentive driven and won’t go over $5m unless he’s all-star level, I’m all over it. But so will half of baseball, so I wouldn’t get our hopes up.
Still think we ought to be piling up assets and throwing them at the Rays, White Sox, Angels, or someone else who has excess starting pitching. And then go for someone like a Josh Willingham for hitting. But that’s just me.
by BostonTransplant on Nov 12, 2011 10:08 AM MST up reply actions
prado definitely isn't the end-all acquisition he might be looking like now
he’s just a decided upgrade at second
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
OK I'll go there ...
But only if Smith or B prospects are going back. Not Blackmon and Wheeler.
by BostonTransplant on Nov 12, 2011 10:23 AM MST up reply actions
Nobody is talking Blackmon AND Wheeler for Prado
If that was mentioned, it was regarding a Prado/Jurrjens package…
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Nov 12, 2011 11:22 AM MST up reply actions
I think they have, actually
At least that’s what the Braves beat guys are talking. In a mailbag feature a couple days ago, someone asked whether the Rockies would give them Tulowitski. No, I am not kidding.
by BostonTransplant on Nov 12, 2011 12:28 PM MST up reply actions
I meant nobody here...
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by Junction Rox on Nov 12, 2011 1:44 PM MST up reply actions
I've been pushing for Willingham since last year.
But, everyone thinks he is getting to old, and his defense isn’t the best. Prado may not be the best player out there. But, he could be better than what we have now. Which is nothing.
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by Roxman4ever on Nov 12, 2011 10:19 AM MST up reply actions
What? He turns 32 before next season
For a power hitting corner outfielder, that’s still prime territory. Can’t speak to defense, but frankly, he can’t be THAT much worse than Smith.
by BostonTransplant on Nov 12, 2011 10:26 AM MST up reply actions
My objection isn't necessarily his age,
but instead the fact that he wants a several-year deal and would cost us a pick.
there is a rumor that may do away with having to give up a pick.
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by Roxman4ever on Nov 12, 2011 10:51 AM MST up reply actions
That's true, and if so than I would be much less hesitant about it.
I definitely wanted Willingham last year. I’m just hoping he doesn’t want too many years/monies.
I was wanting him also last year.
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by Roxman4ever on Nov 12, 2011 11:07 AM MST up reply actions
If I were laying down a bet...
(and I’d hope someone would stop me before I did) I’d bet that new FA draft comp rules would only go into effect next year.
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I mean for free agents signed after the 2012 season and thus...
not affecting the 2012 draft.
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The long term deal doesn't both me much
The guy has a long track record and is very consistent. The chances of him coming to Coors and laying an egg are pretty small. I wouldn’t go past 3 years, maybe 4 if lower per-year or if the 4th year is a club option or vested, but that much doesn’t bother me.
by BostonTransplant on Nov 12, 2011 11:00 AM MST up reply actions
we have a lineup filled with low average, high strikeout guys.
I really don’t want to add another one with mediocre/poor defense. Pass on Willingham, he won’t improve the offense as much as the stats suggest
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we have a lineup filled with low average, high strikeout guys.
I really don’t want to add another one withmediocre/poormaybe good defense. Pass onWillinghamSizemore, he won’t improve the offense as much as the stats suggest
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
Sizemore isn’t about stats, he’s about name recognition.
I think his body is shot, and I don’t want him in Denver.
Some days, I feel like I’ve accidentally entered the Church of Tulowitzki on Baseball Easter.
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Career 260 hitter, with 360 OBP
Had a lot of K’s last year but previously was pretty much in line with most power hitters. Clearly he had a different role last year with an awful A’s offense in which he was the main run producer. And he produced a spectacular AB/RBI ratio (one of my favorite numbers, despite RBI’s being a crappy stat), 4th best in the league. That’s precisely Smith’s weakness, as he had one of the worst ratios for anyone not hitting consistently in the top 2 of the order.
Anyway, I really like the guy. He may actually be better for us than Cuddyer. Certainly better bet than Sizemore.
by BostonTransplant on Nov 12, 2011 12:37 PM MST up reply actions
Not getting old...yet
The thing is we don’t want to sign him to a 4-5 year deal when he will end up being 36. I wouldn’t mind a 2 year deal for him but he’s looking for more.
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Sizemore may be a good match to Colorado ..
He’s looking for that next contract that will stabilize his future, but he’s not in a place to earn it this offseason. So he may be interested in a one year deal where he can use Coors Field as a trampoline into next years big contract.
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by Charlie77 on Nov 12, 2011 10:19 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
I could see this happening...
Make the trade for Prado involving Smith somehow and then getting Sizemore to take Smith’s place. Then a lineup could be run out like this:
LF Sizemore
CF Fowler
RF Gonzalez
SS Tulowitzki
1B Helton
2B Prado
3B Stewart
C Iannetta
It was mentioned in one of the articles that Prado would fit in a RBI slot, and this could create the LSLRLRLR in the lineup.
Asking a lot for Sizemore to be back at his OBP peak
But yeah, that lineup looks solid. I think I like it a little better this way:
CF Fowler
2B Prado
LF Cargo
SS Tulo
RF Willingham
1B Helton
C Rosario
3B Stewart/somebody else
by BostonTransplant on Nov 12, 2011 10:29 AM MST up reply actions
flip prado and sizemore
grady’s legs are shot
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
We have 5 or 6 outfielders capable of playing at the Major League level in 2012.
I’m not including EY or Wigginton in that count. We have ZERO, ZIP, 0 players capable of playing 2B.
That’s the obsession with Prado.
by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 12, 2011 12:32 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah but that's solvable in other ways
Sign Ellis, sign Hudson. Neither is as good as Prado, but they’ll certainly do.
by BostonTransplant on Nov 12, 2011 12:40 PM MST up reply actions
it's not like we can't do both
mind you, there wouldn’t be much point to acquiring sizemore at this point in his career i think. if we’re going to go after a free-agent outfielder, it should be beltran, not willingham or sizemore.
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
Sizemore and Beltran.
Are they both “injury prone”?
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by Roxman4ever on Nov 12, 2011 11:22 AM MST up reply actions
beltran was completely without knee trouble last year
the transition to corner outfield seems to have helped his legs a lot, as he also hit like the beltran of old. they have similar offensive potential, but beltran is far more likely to hit well than sizemore in 2012, and also has a far better K%, which has been just as big a factor as sizemore’s knees in his no longer being a dangerous hitter
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
ok, thanks for clearing that up
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by Roxman4ever on Nov 12, 2011 11:27 AM MST up reply actions
and we won't offer him the money of bigger market clubs
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because some owners are cheap and wont shell out money except for Tulo and Cargo
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by Roxman4ever on Nov 12, 2011 11:42 AM MST up reply actions
because we can probably do better
than financially overextending ourselves on an injury-prone outfielder with such gaping holes at 2B, 3B, and rotation?
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we could sign beltran and still do other stuff, too
i do agree though, we should go for impact moves elsewhere first. beltran probably won’t sign until late december or january anyway
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
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by Junction Rox on Nov 12, 2011 11:52 AM MST up reply actions
would you buy a Honda Civic for $42,750?
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 12, 2011 8:08 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Does it have some sweet rims?
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by Charlie77 on Nov 12, 2011 11:38 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I would rather roll the dice on an injury prone 29yo..
Than a 34 yo injury prone player. At least Grady doesn’t have father time against him.
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by Charlie77 on Nov 12, 2011 4:19 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
That's not a good way of looking at it.
And in the offseason, I hope DOD isn’t just trying to pull off one specific trade at a time.
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 12, 2011 11:28 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Since Papelbon signed that horrendous contract yesterday and someone mentioned it.
How much easier would it be to trade Street?
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Logically, it should be easier.
I still don’t think Street is a hot commodity on the market. I’d like to be proved wrong however.
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 12, 2011 11:26 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
maybe we could send him to the Mets with a prospect for Wright?
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by Roxman4ever on Nov 12, 2011 11:27 AM MST up reply actions
So, if they were to do that. That would be flipping Ubaldo for Wright?
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by Roxman4ever on Nov 12, 2011 11:31 AM MST up reply actions
???
We also got a couple of top prospects from Cleveland for Ubaldo.
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 12, 2011 11:34 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
don't forget white and gardner
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
but would we send any of those 2 with him also?
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by Roxman4ever on Nov 12, 2011 11:39 AM MST up reply actions
absolutely not
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
So I guess were giving up on getting Wright?
I guess I can suffer another year until Arenado gets to Denver. Wish it is next year really though.
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by Roxman4ever on Nov 12, 2011 11:41 AM MST up reply actions
we could get wright without touching the ubaldo return
smith/wheeler, bettis/friedrich/cabrera, rosario
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
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by squalene203 on Nov 12, 2011 12:54 PM MST up reply actions
There's a difference between "giving up"
and “not wanting to pay the Mets’ asking price.”
If it looked like the Mets were going to re-sign Reyes, I would think they’d be a lot more flexible about trading Wright, but according to reports he’s just about gone to Miami.
The Mets losing both Reyes and Wright in one offseason wouldn’t look very good to their fanbase, so I imagine his price will be higher since they’re probably not getting Reyes back.
Agreed, most reports I've seen out of New York
indicate that they’re not really even looking to move Wright this offseason.
Personally, I refuse to get upset over not gutting our farm system to fill a one year need with a player who may not even be available, and who is going to eat up a huge percentage of the available budget to fill all the holes this team has. Even leaving the concerns about Wright’s back out of the picture (I don’t think you can just assume back issues with a 3B are ever insignificant), it’s always seemed like more of a longshot to dream about than something we should be expecting…
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by Junction Rox on Nov 12, 2011 11:59 AM MST up reply actions
..... No.
Not even close.
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 12, 2011 11:29 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Personally, I think/hope that the Rockies will continue to be active throughout the offseason.
Not just with this Martin Prado/Grady Sizemore name. And I also hope they don’t stop dealing if/once they land a Martin Prado.
We need a P. And there’s a good chance we will need a corner OF (smith/wheeler being dealt this offseason)
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 12, 2011 11:24 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Fixed
Personally, I think/hope that the Rockies will
continueto be active throughout the offseason.
Re-signing Giambi doesn’t count as being active this off season. Otherwise I agree with you completely.
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Rockies have shown interest in several players.
Being active doesn’t mean ONLY signing/trading players.
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 12, 2011 12:41 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I agree with this as well
but showing interest and actively pursuing are different. I think they are now actively pursuing Prado, so it’s going to be fun. I hope they can keep going.
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yeah, it does
I’m interested in getting a new mustang, corvette, camaro, viper, and m5.
I’m not going to actually BUY any of them, and I’ll just keep driving my Jetta around. That doesn’t make me an active car buyer.
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 12, 2011 8:14 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
But you're not making any legitimate offers on a mustang or a covette.
I can see it both ways, actually.
We're assuming that the Rockies ARE making legitimate offers
that is to say, they might put down the offer that works perfectly for the Rockies, but as soon as a bidding war happens, it goes silent.
If I offered a trade-in of my car and then whatever amount of money would keep my current car payments exactly the same for that mustang or corvette, and then left when the dealer told me that was infeasible, I still wouldn’t be an active car buyer.
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 12, 2011 8:25 PM MST up reply actions
Well, I doubt they're offering the equivalent of Alan Johnson for Prado.
Not having made any moves yet doesn’t mean they’re not doing anything. Most teams haven’t made any moves yet. I just don’t really see the point in criticizing yet.
Oh at this point, sure, I'm willing to wait and see
but to say the Rockies are active FA players is just not true. They haven’t been for some time.
Ty Wigginton and Rodrigo Lopez don’t count.
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 12, 2011 8:33 PM MST up reply actions
Well, the original comment was simply "active this offseason."
Not specifically in the FA market. Given that Hot Stove hasn’t really heated up yet, they’re probably just as active as any other team right now.
Fair enough
I just don’t see much of a chance of the team being any more active than they have in the past several years, so I’m extrapolating.
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 12, 2011 8:37 PM MST up reply actions
I’m not really expecting any blockbusters. But I don’t think we really need any blockbusters. I would like a couple really solid moves, however. Guess we’ll see.
I don't think we need blockbusters
but we DO need another “big bat” or “stud pitcher” or whatever.
I’m overplaying my hand in this conversation, I want to write more about this for Monday.
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 12, 2011 8:47 PM MST up reply actions
I agree.
and I’m sure DOD does too. Which is why I think the team will be quite active throughout the offseason.
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 12, 2011 8:49 PM MST up reply actions
With all of the car analogies too
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We'll see.
I am not as quick to say that. Not yet.
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 12, 2011 8:46 PM MST up reply actions
Mm, I see the team being more active in trade talks than in FA, of course.
The team has pieces to deal.
So far, the team has been active in gauging the trade market. That was what I meant by “active” in my first comment. Then it’ll be up to DOD to execute and pull the trigger on a trade that improves the team.
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 12, 2011 8:45 PM MST up reply actions
Wheeler made a really nice throw from center last night.
The catcher sorta mis-handled it but it was a strong accurate throw.
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Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
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... On another team
;P
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 12, 2011 11:42 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
lol danks for wheeler?
that pretty much defines “steal”
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
Well, Wheeler ++ for Danks.
Definitely not straight up
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 12, 2011 11:54 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, I was thinking Wheeler would be the centerpiece of a deal for Danks.
We’d have to include several other pieces, obviously.
by Shoemaker on Nov 12, 2011 2:12 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
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by BostonTransplant on Nov 12, 2011 12:41 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Shall I flag this comment?
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 12, 2011 2:04 PM MST up reply actions
Pradoooooo Pradoooooo
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“Told that the Marlins can sign Pujols and Reyes. Have at least one trade offer out, plus Buehrle and one more pitcher.”
Um…..WHAT?!
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Who is this and what have they done with the Marlins?
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I don't know if I like this
new strategy by the Marlins. It reminds me of what the Nationals did last year, except they are going after better players.
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There are some pieces on the Marlins that I would be interested in asking about, if they get trade-happy.
Nolasco and Volstad, specifically.
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hanley
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 12, 2011 2:18 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
THIS
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I guess I don't think that the Marlins would actually trade Hanley.
If they would I’d be VERY interested.
by Shoemaker on Nov 12, 2011 3:18 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
pomeranz+arenado+
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
Considering the level of player the Marlins appear to be going after I don't think they want anyone on the Rockies roster
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Couldn't the Marlins be doing this just to raise up the prices for the players?
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that wouldn't help them much
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 12, 2011 2:10 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
not likely
they want to win now that they have their fancy new stadium, not just screw with everybody else
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
Is this someone we would be interested in?
Drew Stubbs, I know he struck out 205 times on the year. But, I think it was just year for that and seeing improvement.
I think this is good numbers. Wiggy could take lessons from him.
He was the hardest player to induce a double play from, hitting into only two ground-ball double plays in 604 at-bats. His batting average on balls in play (BABIP) was .343.
Now, I don’t anything about this BABIP thing. But is .343 a good number or not?
What would it take to get him? If wanted.
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I don't want Drew Stubbs.
Drew Stubbs is a guy who can’t get no love from me.
by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 12, 2011 4:28 PM MST up reply actions
I chuckled.
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 12, 2011 8:15 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I went chasin' waterfalls...
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by Junction Rox on Nov 12, 2011 10:59 PM MST up reply actions
why would we want drew stubbs when we already have dexter fowler
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
What is wrong with more speed?
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*30.1 K%*
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
read above....I think his K rate this year was just a fluke.
It will improve.
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why do you think it will improve next year?
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2009: 25%
2010: 28.8%
2011: 30.1%
Yeahhhhhhh, I don’t see that happening.
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But we keep freaking Stewart and Wiggy around?
If high K rate is a problem. Then dump those 2 also. I didn’t ask the question to get my ass hammered. I SAID I KNEW HIS K RATE WAS HIGH. A simple yes or no would’ve worked.
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Don’t take it personally.
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by Muzia on Nov 12, 2011 4:47 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
wigginton does a lot of things poorly, but his K% is right around average
as for stewart, well, we don’t know if we’re keeping him around (i hope we do), but his ceiling remains through the roof, and he’s a good defender at a scarce position.
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
He was actually just a bit better than league average
18.8%, league average was 19.1%. Even Stewie was only at 27.2%.
I actually like a lot of things about Stubbs’ game, but if he’s at all available (which I haven’t heard either way), it’s probably largely because of his K rate. It’s been the knock on him since he came up…
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by Junction Rox on Nov 12, 2011 4:57 PM MST up reply actions
and no one here thinks he won't improve.
High K rate guys hit lots of homers. Pujols is the exception. Maybe Votto. Reynolds, Howard. I’m sure there are others also.
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I have no idea if he'll improve
at the moment the trend is going the other way…
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by Junction Rox on Nov 12, 2011 5:17 PM MST up reply actions
and i asked why you thought it would improve, because you can't just say "it will improve" based on absolutely no evidence at all
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
Ok, 30% is crazy crazy high. I just seeing it get better.
I have no evidence like everyone wants. He is a good player and good players make adjustments. He just had a bad year. Stewart doesn’t make adjustments. Ian is a good player on defense, no doubt, but when he can pull his head out of his butt and learn to hit the ball again. They he will be a good player again.
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Baseball doesn't work that way.
Every trend and stat suggests he3’s likely to have a K rate over 25% this season, which is too high. He’s a serviceable player, but why would we possibly go after him even if he was available?
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make him learn LF
or maybe try him at 2nd. LOL
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i just don't get you at all, bro
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by papality on Nov 12, 2011 5:08 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
sometimes I dont get myself. LOL
Imnotthesmartestfryinthehappymeal.
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it sucks that he has only played CF
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what does this even mean?
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people who are average-to-good CF
are generally able to be above-average LF or RF
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
Once the Position Sorting Hat decides your position, you can't move
It’s like Hogwarts. If you get Slytherin, you’re stuck in Slytherin. If you’re a CF, you’re a CF no matter what scouts and development says. It’s unfair.
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so no one would want to take a flyer on him?
Its just because of K%. Is this what I am seeing what the concensus is?
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considering he's still making the league minimum, I'm sure Cincy will keep him
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which is about the reason
we’ve kept Stewart. His arb can’t go up too much because his K% is too high (and last year he spent in AAA).
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JFK
yea, I saw that after looking at baseball reference.
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he didn't "just have a bad year"
his K% has increased every year he’s been in the majors, and was only below 22% in the minors at one stop, and it was too short to be meaningful.
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
wow
http://www.fangraphs.com/community/index.php/was-woba-actually-invented-nearly-100-years-ago/
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
holy.....
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and there are those(like me) who will never understand it.
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you don't need to understand all the math involved to understand the basic principles of linear weights
just read more about it!
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
by papality on Nov 12, 2011 6:13 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
that 16% home run rate is pretty nice, and he was hitting around .280.
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JFK
make that .290
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OT: No one has been here for hours,
but I thought that I’d let everyone know that I went to my first Avs game tonight. They suck. Nice arena though.
Which part of it sucks?
The game, the atmosphere, the team?
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I say
We get Sizemore, Prado, and Cj Wilson/Trevor Cahill then call it an offseason. Or if we can’t get Sizemore and Prado get Beltran and Kelly Johnson.
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