Wednesday Rockpile: Does Martin Prado + Grady Sizemore = Success?
by Jeff Aberle on Nov 16, 2011 8:27 AM MST
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PrintAs the GM Meetings continue, most of the buzz out of the Rockies has revolved around two players: Atlanta Braves 2B Martin Prado and free agent OF Grady Sizemore. In my mind, Sizemore won't be on this team unless Seth Smith is unloaded in a trade -- which is why Colorado has been dangling him in a potential Prado trade. But is this series of events the best course of action for Colorado?
Warning! Thought Experiments Ahead!
Let's say for the sake of argument that the Rockies do give up Smith + Tim Wheeler for Prado -- a deal that the Braves probably come out ahead on in the long run. We'll say that Prado's talent level over the next two years is a 3 win player at 2B (above league average, in the conversation for the All-Star game). Even at the lower end of his projection (assuming no injuries), Prado should be pretty close to league average (2 WAR each year). For that performance he'll likely be paid in the range of $10-15 million. Considering that over the last couple of years Colorado has gotten well below average performance out of 2B, they would be happy to pay that price for 4-6 WAR.
Sizemore is much more tricky to evaluate, since it has been two years since he was a league average player...but for a 4 year span from 2005 to 2008, he was a MVP caliber player -- accumulating 27.4 fWAR over those 4 years (from ages 22 to 25, by the way). His prior team, Cleveland, didn't think that Sizemore was worth paying $8.5 million (his 2012 club option)...but there's plenty of teams on his trail this off-season. The dude's only 29, but his injury history is certainly a complicating factor here.
He's yet another lefty outfielder (career line against LHP: .227/.315/.378), and we're uncertain about how the injuries (5 surgeries in the last 3 years) have affected his speed and power. According to someone who has watched him closely, his injuries might have affected other parts of his game as well. As a left-fielder, I would project Sizemore as a 2 win player next year -- but there's a range of 0-6 WAR within reason. Given the competition for his services, I can certainly see Colorado needing at least $5 million to sign him...and it might be a worthwhile gamble (if he is amenable) to offer 2/$8 million with the ability to get up to $15 million if he performs well. The potential reward here is undeniable -- and I'd much rather be paying $5 million to Sizemore than to Ty Wigginton.
So, with the assumption that Colorado would be able to sign/trade for Sizemore and Prado at a price of around $8-10 million this winter, let's see if it's worth it for Colorado to do so. Here's the equation we need to be concerned with: is Martin Prado + Grady Sizemore >= 2B committee + Smith + Charlie Blackmon/Tim Wheeler? In this scenario, Colorado would still need to acquire a competent right-handed reserve outfielder but would probably let Ian Stewart/internal solutions fill 3B until Nolan Arenado is ready.
The thought experiment concludes below the jump -- there's also notes about pitching acquisitions, prospect news, and the MLB labor deal.
Here's what I think: Seth Smith is a 2 win player with considerably less risk than Sizemore, even when being used in a platoon. He's the same age as Sizemore but he's under team control for three more years, for which he's likely going to cost about $12-15 million. I see him producing the same value for the Rockies in his 3 years of team control as a corner OF as Prado will in his 2 years at 2B.
However, the value isn't created equally in this situation, as Smith's production would be much easier to replace -- Charlie Blackmon is probably a 1 win player over the course of a season in the same role right now, and Tim Wheeler could be too. At 2B...well let's just say that the internal options aren't as promising to me -- I don't see league average production in the cards for the current wave of ML-ready prospects. Also, the best external 2B option outside of Prado might be Clint Barmes. Forgive me if I am not filled with confidence at that thought. In fact, Prado would tide Colorado over nicely until a player like Josh Rutledge is ready for the Show.
Am I, therefore, a proponent of trading Smith for Prado? Sure I am -- but I would prefer to hold onto both Blackmon and Wheeler, for the simple reason that Colorado's prospect depth at the position behind those two skips a couple of levels. I would counter with Prado for Smith, Thomas Field, and Kent Matthes -- and hope that's enough for Frank Wren to bite.
If Colorado were to lose both Smith and Wheeler (if I had to pick between Blackmon/Wheeler to let go, it would be the latter) to acquire Prado, I could bear it, but only if Colorado were to make a bold risk with Sizemore -- provided. My philosophy is to pay a little extra for prodigious talent, and Sizemore has that in spades. The fact that Cleveland didn't bring him back is worrisome, as are the other indicators about his plate discipline and the fact that this could be another Brandon Webb situation. But...c'mon son! This gentleman has the chance to be an All-Star this season, especially hitting in Coors Field -- I didn't say it was a good chance, mind you.
Bottom line: I think that I've talked myself into Prado/Sizemore at the expense of Smith/Wheeler and a few extra million dollars. That 2012 lineup would be fierce! Ask me tomorrow and I might have a different answer for you.
The Trade Market for Pitchers
Troy Renck's articles from the GM Meetings in Milwaukee both had pitching at the forefront -- one about how Colorado is looking to acquire a 3/4 starter and one about how Jhoulys Chacin needs to relax a little and return to being a stone cold killer on the mound.
The first article had some really interesting nuggets -- foremost of which was that the Rockies have turned their focus on the trade market to pitchers in Tampa Bay and Miami (and away from John Danks/Wandy Rodriguez). That means speculating about Jeff Niemann, Wade Davis, Anibal Sanchez, Ricky Nolasco, and Chris Volstad as trade targets instead.
Both Niemann and Davis have at least 3 years of team control behind them and have survived pitching in the AL East -- with Niemann being my preference of the two. The Miami trio has less team control remaining (1 year for Sanchez, 2 for Nolasco -- at $20.5 million, and 3 for Volstad), but can expect to produce at a higher rate. Of the three Volstad would be the best bargain, but if Colorado was just trying to beef up 2012 Sanchez would be my pick.
Renck also notes that Colorado will be in on Roy Oswalt (not happening) Paul Maholm (I hope it does, actually), and Jeff Francis (the poor man's Maholm at this point -- good thing he will cost less too) among others in the free agent market. If the Rockies get one of Niemann/Volstad/Sanchez plus Maholm this off-season, I'll be satisfied with the rotation depth going into next year.
As for Chacin, Renck writes that Colorado has discussed at the least buying out his arbitration years this off-season, which is almost always a smart idea unless the player is a reliever (Corpas!!!!!!).
In addition, there's some rumblings that Huston Street has drawn interest from Toronto, who is pushing hard for a closer. Loath as I am to trade with a GM as competent as Alex Anthopoulos, the salary relief gained from trading Street would sure be nice -- and it might give Dan O'Dowd more flexibility in acquiring pitchers.
MLB Labor Deal
Word on the street is that there will be a MLB labor agreement very soon. For anyone who was fearing a NBA labor situation, you can probably relax. However, there are a few pieces of the deal that will, I believe, be detrimental to the health of the game long-term.
Specifically, I'm not a fan of a world-wide draft, and I'm definitely not a fan of imposing slot bonuses on signees. I mean, baseball is already losing a bunch of the top athletes to sports like football and basketball. Why make it even less likely that multi-sport prep stars choose baseball as a career? Sure, teams will be paying less in the draft, but the caliber of players will be depressed by the market.
Rob Neyer offers his analysis on the labor deal and comes to similar conclusions.
Nolan Arenado Watch
Our intrepid hero went 3-4 with a run in Salt River's win last night. His AFL line in 114 ABs: .404/.434/.658 with 33 RBIs and 17 XBHs. Arenado no longer has the lead in RBIs, but he does lead the AFL in hits and has only struck out 13 times.
In other prospect news -- in case you have forgotten, Wilin Rosario is also tearing up fall ball. Despite his defensive deficiencies, Rosario gives Colorado the best chance to win if he and Iannetta are together in the big leagues come Opening Day.
Finally, the Casper Ghosts are no more -- they have been replaced in the Pioneer League by the Grand Junction Purple Pizza Huts Rockies. The move was financially motivated according to the GJ GM, as there weren't enough fans coming to see the Ghosts play.
Baseball-Reference Nugget of the Week -- NBA free since June...aw man
Colorado left-handed hitters put up a better OPS against left-handed pitching (.723) than right-handed hitters did against right-handed pitching (.677). Of course, right-handed hitters didn't hit super well against lefty pitchers either (.737), so that's a pretty good indication that we might need some different right-handed hitters.
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Upon the conclusion...
of the play Sizemore is making in the Rockpile image, he injured his knee.
by roxintober on Nov 16, 2011 8:28 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
So, this Rockpile is over 1600 words. Sorry about that.
I won’t blame you if you didn’t read all of it.
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Did you mention Martin Prado?
I hear that we might be pursuing him.
by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 8:35 AM MST up reply actions
Wait I thought Detroit was...for Delmon Young
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Uneventful. I'll do something this weekend
Just some dog walking, catching up on “Sherlock”, couple glasses of red wine :)
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For the taste or for the <3---Wine?
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"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
For the heart health....
and lowering of blood pressure…that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
But it was not good wine :(. It was the more expensive $4 Trader Joes brand.
/disappoint
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Stick with the yellow tail.
I like a good full bodied port evry now and then.
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its alright, I never read the rockpiles
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I kid I kid
whoa
There’s words up there?!
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Nov 16, 2011 11:14 AM MST up reply actions
Not an issue
Lots of little things going on this week
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 16, 2011 9:26 AM MST up reply actions
I understand the risk of Sizemore
but never understimate a guy who is playing for his next contract. Its one thing for a marginal talent player to play for his next 3/$10 deal, but its another for a big talent guy like Sizemore to be going for his next 4/30 or 5/$50 deal
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
Yeah, that's part of the thing with Sizemore...
How many chances do you get to sign a player who has produced 8 WAR in a single season…and he’s still shy of 30?
Very few.
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We had a chance @ M Young and we failed
We had a chance @ Berkman and we failed
We need not fail again…not saying its Sizemore but it has the potential to be a Berkman like signing except for a guy who is not even 30.
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 16, 2011 8:42 AM MST up reply actions
I agree and I do think Sizemore can be that bounceback candidate
and as much as I like Blackmon/Wheeler having a vet like sizemore is a nice teacher/insurance policy to have.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I’d still be surprised if we make a deal for Prado where we only get Prado – there has to be something else in the Braves minor league system that we can get for Smith/Wheeler that could be valuable to us…
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
I’m sure that the right package could send over an arm projected as a back-of-rotation that the Braves would never get to use. Even after shipping away two pretty quality mid/back rotation guys in the Bourn trade, the Braves still have a lot of them. Lots of good relievers in the minors as well.
Three helpful links detailing the Braves pitching prospects…
RHP:http://www.talkingchop.com/2011/11/3/2532068/atlanta-braves-2012-top-ten-right-handed-starting-pitching-prospects
LHP: http://www.talkingchop.com/2011/11/4/2534647/sean-gilmartin-carlos-perez-atlanta-braves
Relievers: http://www.talkingchop.com/2011/10/21/2501737/atlanta-braves-2012-top-10-relief-pitching-prospects
I wouldn’t be the guy to ask about anyone below the top 3-5 on each list, as I do live in Denver and have never had an opportunity to see these folks play as a result. Even my info on the high-ranking folks is word of mouth from people who do get to see them play regularly. I would guess you’d start getting into the available throw-ins after the top 3-4 on each list. I’m not at all sure how either team views the Prado for Smith+Wheeler deal, so I’m not sure if you’d be looking at the 4-7 guys on each list or a little farther down the line.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
by cthabeerman on Nov 16, 2011 11:31 AM MST up reply actions
Link bork...
http://www.talkingchop.com/2011/11/3/2532068/atlanta-braves-2012-top-ten-right-handed-starting-pitching-prospects for that first one.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
by cthabeerman on Nov 16, 2011 11:32 AM MST up reply actions
thanks for this
I’m still feeling as though since the Braves have a stacked bullpen, we should be able to land Prado and a good reliever for Smith and Wheeler.
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Okay there is no way Oswalt is coming to Denver
can we stop talking about that now
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
I doubt Prado or Sizemore come to Denver either
Who is available off the scrap heap?
I actually think there's a small but decent chance Prado/Sizemore ends up in purple next season
The Prado half if obvious and if DOD wants him enough he’ll eventually give Atlanta what they’re asking for. At the same time, Atlanta may want to deal Prado and end up caving to the Rockies price.
Sizemore has stated he wants a one year deal to reattain his value, and there’s no better place for a hitter to do this than Colorado. A low risk/high incentive deal might lure him to Denver, and that’s exactly the type of contract the Rockies will probably offer him.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 16, 2011 9:34 AM MST up reply actions
The Rockies aren't going to be the only team interested.
I just don’t see Atlanta “caving in”. If we make a mutually decent deal, that’s one thing, but I’d bet strongly against the Rox stealing Prado for less than his market value.
According to RG there is noway that Buerhle's coming hear either...
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
Only way is if we trade for pitchers
who have to fulfill their contract, otherwise they aren’t willingly coming here
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 16, 2011 8:53 AM MST up reply actions
Some one looking to resurect a dead career might...
Jaime Moyer might fit that bill. You’ll scream no way possible he pitches well in Coors. I say he’d adapt better than many younger upside pitchers. It’s not how fast you pitch as much as having command changing speed and location.
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
I'd take Moyer
over Hammel or Cook
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 16, 2011 8:58 AM MST up reply actions
I have a major unexplainable grudge/hatred/dislike for Hammel
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 16, 2011 9:07 AM MST up reply actions
There are times he really tests my confidence too.
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
i think it's probably pretty explainable...
he’s a terrible pitcher who shouldn’t be in the major leagues.
Go on...
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Can you elaborate?
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8.8 WAR in the past three seasons? yep, sure sounds like someone who doesn’t belong in the majors.
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By this logic
Anyone who’s had a bad season should not play baseball anymore
Goodbye 2011, hello uncertainty about 2012...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 10:47 AM MST up reply actions
That includes last season.
You can’t base your opinion of a player on a single season.
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I still hate Ty Wigginton.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 10:49 AM MST up reply actions
he's had an awful career
it’s okay to hate him
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
Are you also of the opinion that Hanley Ramirez shouldn't be in the majors anymore?
Or does this logic only apply to pitchers?
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 16, 2011 11:00 AM MST up reply actions
Why? We always talk about players that will never come to Denver.
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by SDcat09 on Nov 16, 2011 9:05 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Good point
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
by waterboy31321 on Nov 16, 2011 9:06 AM MST up reply actions
i would not rule oswalt out like we can rule out many others
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
Sizemore: .920 OPS?
are we going above or below the Jose Lopez forecast?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 16, 2011 8:48 AM MST via mobile reply actions
I'd rather just start the Sizemore Injury Pool right now
I call May 21
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I call a 15 day dl stint in June
June 6
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 16, 2011 8:52 AM MST up reply actions
Feb.....13th? this year
It’s usually right on or within a day or two of my birthday
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 16, 2011 9:00 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
March 12th.
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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 16, 2011 11:06 AM MST up reply actions
What's plan B?
If Sizemore can’t overcome the injuries and Charlie Blackmon hits an empty .250? Are we stuck with Wiggy in RF again?
I’m all for the Prado deal, especially if it’s not Seth Smith that goes. But, I don’t see Sizemore as a viable option in our outfield without a good backup plan in place.
probably Jay Payton.
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Cole Garner would like a word
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
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Wrong Payton.
Peyton Manning.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 8:51 AM MST up reply actions
You suppose he could get neck injury rehab pointers from Nicasio
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Sizemore >> Spilborghs
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 16, 2011 8:57 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe
The problem is how many games will we have Spillborghs, or worse, playing because Sizemore is on the DL.
there are 500 replacement level players out there
that are better than Spilborghs. If he is on the roster at all this season, O’Dowd should probably just be given his walking papers.
But... but...
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Goodbye 2011, hello uncertainty about 2012...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 10:04 AM MST up reply actions
We've missed you!
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We know this person?
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I think I do.
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I could be wrong. Seems familiar.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 10:14 AM MST up reply actions
I’m not going there.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 10:15 AM MST up reply actions
The white whale.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 12:47 PM MST up reply actions
I knew it!
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Scott Beerer!
Err
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 16, 2011 9:23 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Well, like I stated in the post, we'd still need to add a RH OF bat
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I'm
tired of picking up crap from the dumpsters in hopes of finding a filet mignon. I want zero part of a has been who can no longer play. And I certainly don’t want to rely on that has been to actually man a starting position. If Sizemore is to come to Colorado, the only way I want it to be is on a bare minimum contract and in a situation where he is considered a 5th starter. Otherwise, let the sign and turn teams like the A’s have him.
No offense but outside of the draft(and even then if you count late round picks as crap)
that has been our most succesful mode of talent acquisition Belisle, Palino, Hammel and Delarosa were all scrap heap deals that have or should have worked out great for us. Kaz Matsui, Giambi, Marquis, Jeremy Burnitz are a few examples of guys who were thought to be done and gave great ROI GM’s fall victim to stereotyping and SSS all of the time. I understand the frustration but there are Ryan Roberts, Jose Bautistas, and Ryan Vogelsongs that are given up on every year.
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If there is a Jose Bautista out there
we should totally sign that guy.
Someone will
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Bautista, Andres Torres, Nelson Cruz.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
To lesser extents
Jayson Werth and Ryan Ludwick…
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
Shane Victorino, Dan Uggla, Johan Santana, Joakim Soria
Carlos Pena, Casey Kotchman, Ben Zobrist all guys who were given up on to one extent or another
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no no no no no maybe
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:45 AM MST up reply actions
no no no no no no maybe*
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:46 AM MST up reply actions
For what the teams that took a chance on the got in return I would
love the Rockies to find something like them
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All those players suck
besides Zobrist… IMHO
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 12:00 PM MST up reply actions
Uggla hist what? .220?
sure hes got power but thats it and his fielding is horrendous. Santana is done with injuries and Soria is decent. Papality below me is right, Victorino is solid, but not that good.
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 12:03 PM MST up reply actions
Uggla was still worth 2.5 WAR in his worst season
I think he has a bounce back year and really wanted the rockies to trade for him last offseason
by purplesocks on Nov 16, 2011 12:05 PM MST up reply actions
i just don't like .220 hitters
who strike out every other at bat… it drives me crazy
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 12:06 PM MST up reply actions
So you don't like baseball?
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i don't like Dan Uggla
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 12:09 PM MST up reply actions
was it because of his defense in the
all-star game?
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its because his defense in general
and his hitting in general. All he can do is hit homers… thats about it.
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 12:10 PM MST up reply actions
he actually struck out in a little over 1 out of every 5 PAs
which is roughly the same as Chris Iannetta and Dexter Fowler. And not a whole lot higher than Cargo
by purplesocks on Nov 16, 2011 12:17 PM MST up reply actions
interesting
still don’t like him tho. I think he is overhyped however he would be an upgrade at second for the Rox.
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 12:19 PM MST up reply actions
This is about Uggla, not Kelly Johnson.
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You misunderstand those players were free or nearly free
to the team that recieved most of their success. Zobrist came in a salary dump of Aubrey Huff the rest were Rule 5 or FA who were dumped
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i know
i think zobrist was a steal
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 12:07 PM MST up reply actions
victorino is very, very good
uggla is good, johan santana was on the easy track to the HOF, in 2010 soria was arguably the best closer in baseball
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
Remember when the Yankees almost gave away Montero for Soria?
lol…
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 16, 2011 2:17 PM MST up reply actions
you're missing the point
the fact is that these guys have either been consistently valuable (Zobrist, Victorino, Cruz, Bautista) or extremely valuable in shorter spans (Pena, Ludwick) and cost almost nothing to acquire. They don’t have to be amazing 8WAR players – if they can be a 4 WAR player that cost the Rockies virtually nothing then they’re nothing but a true asset.
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Zobrist wasn't given up on
He was traded (while still in AA) for Aubrey Huff when the Astros tried to get another veteran bat for a stretch run. Granted, it was a stupid trade, but they didn’t give up on him.
Ditto w/ Santana. They didn’t think he was close enough to being big league ready for anyone to take him in the Rule 5 draft. Wrong, but they didn’t exactly give up on him.
I would argue leaving someone exposed to rule 5 is on some level giving up on
The Astros threw Zobrist in on that trade Huff was making something like 15-20% of the Rays roster budget
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The really crazy thing about zobrist is how a 27 YO with a career .429 OBP
and excellent multi-positional defense in the minors takes 5 years to make the show
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the next Jose Bautista
is Mike Stanton from Miami… he will hit 50+ bombs next year especially if he hits cleanup behind Hanley and Jose
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:15 AM MST up reply actions
That’s not the type of Bautista we mean. Stanton was a top prospect who’s kicking ass now. We need to find a scrub to turn into a superstar… like some other team will do when they get Stewart…
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I hear Brandon Wood is available.
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poor Brandon Wood
and poor Angels…
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ahhh okay
well lets hope Arenado is the next Mike Stanton minus Stanton’s strikeouts
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:22 AM MST up reply actions
no one has Stanton’s power potential. It’s off the charts.
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yea i know
unfortunately
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:23 AM MST up reply actions
He'll be like Jim Thome
a guy that his the ball so damn hard he could live with a 25%+ strikeout rate and still hit for good average.
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Stanton and Heyward are alright but I prefer Casey Weathers and Brian Rike
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seriously?
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:48 AM MST up reply actions
Oh yeah we took those two in the 07 draft and I stand by it
Sure some might prefer Madison Bumgarner, Jordan Zimmerman, JP Arenciba, Devin Meseraco, Jarod Parker, Ben Revere, Phillipe Aumont, Freddie Freeman, Zach Cozart or Austin Romine but we don’t really need any of those guys
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no i agree with that
besides Arenciba.. he’s the 2B prospect in Tampa right? But Heyward and Stanton are going to be stars in the show.
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 12:04 PM MST up reply actions
Sarcasm is tough to pick up on at times on these here internets.
FYI, Arenciba is the catcher for the Blue Jays…
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by BittenAnkles on Nov 16, 2011 1:46 PM MST up reply actions
my bad
whos the second base prospect from the Rays? I heard a lot of hype on him last year
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 1:47 PM MST up reply actions
zobrist is the rays 2B
the hot rays prospects from last year were desmond jennings and matt moore, an outfielder and pitcher
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
Zobrist played like
5 positions for the Rays. It must be a SS then. Hold on i will try to look him up. This is gonna buck me.
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 1:50 PM MST up reply actions
Hak-Ju Lee?
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
no hold on maybe it wasn't tampa
i looked up their prospects and didn’t recognize the name. give me a sec
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 1:54 PM MST up reply actions
dustin ackley
danny espinosa
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
Found him
Dustin Ackley for the Mariners… I knew it was an A haha idk where i got Tampa from tho
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 1:56 PM MST up reply actions
Amen
More posters ought to have baseball sense like you, way to go
by goodniteirene on Nov 16, 2011 9:12 PM MST up reply actions
I'm going to be buying 2012 tickets in a moment.
This makes me happy.
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I've got my plan renewal in.
But I’m getting some tickets for extra games that I will be taking the family to.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 8:58 AM MST up reply actions
And done.
YAY!
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 9:27 AM MST up reply actions
The ticket price went up slightly in my section,
but they lowered the plan convenience fee. Thus, my plan cost the same as last year.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 9:40 AM MST up reply actions
I'm a little surprised
By the Nov. 30 deadline to renew. Considering there’s half a week of holiday time in there, that’s not much time.
Not a big deal for me, since I work close to Coors and can walk it over there. But for some people, that seems a bit tight.
by Northsider1964 on Nov 16, 2011 10:09 AM MST up reply actions
Ian Stewart. Slacker
DFowler24 Dexter Fowler
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They really should have sent him to winter ball
but how awesome would a breakout year from stewie be?
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He couldn't play because of his wrist or something
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 16, 2011 9:14 AM MST up reply actions
Ian hurt his wrist?
Slopping pigs or playing Wii? ;)
But Ty Wigginton is an All-Star ?!?!
by DAWNMARIE01 on Nov 16, 2011 10:08 AM MST up reply actions
Over-tweeting.
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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 16, 2011 11:08 AM MST up reply actions
He would have but his wrist injury didn't permit it.
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i guess he hurt his wrist.
source is listed above.
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
Buster Olney reports that his wrist was hurt, and the Tigers are interested in Prado.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 16, 2011 9:24 AM MST up reply actions
link?
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.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 16, 2011 9:29 AM MST up reply actions 6 recs
source?
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http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee418/The-Sinister-Sundown/Link_SS_4.png
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searching for "source" on photobucket:
surprisingly NSFW.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 16, 2011 9:32 AM MST up reply actions
.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 16, 2011 9:32 AM MST up reply actions
Two thumbs up!
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win
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Nov 16, 2011 11:17 AM MST up reply actions
doesn't anyone get it
Stewart is very comfortable at what he does, "fail and take paycheck every 2 weeks. he has a good gig going. He could play for the 51 Yankees and still wouldn’t give a hoot.
by goodniteirene on Nov 16, 2011 9:14 PM MST up reply actions
We're replacing a failed prospect at work.
No days off this week; got to cruise guys.
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You have failed prospects at your workplace?
You should go to work for the Rockies. They never have failed prospects, only recycled ones that hang around for years.
The combination of actually doing things while providing real customer service and enforceing some vital to the buisness rules seems a daunting combination to some.
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That's sad :(
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Bye for reals this time.
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Eh.
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do what now?
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
Have I gone backwards or forwards in time?
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What did I ever do to you
that you should wish that upon me?
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.
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
I hate you.
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I have never ever posted that pic.
You can’t blame me.
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i dunno, i'm pretty sure i got the link from you...
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source?
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That is a lie!!
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Amateur.
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i don't get it
i see the same thing on both posts….
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
Each picture is different
in it’s on specific way….
and all equally disturbing. :)
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Okay
Your next assignment is to make a photo mosaic of this Ty Wigginton picture using only this Ty Wigginton picture.
Goodbye 2011, hello uncertainty about 2012...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 9:56 AM MST up reply actions
And not go insane in the process.
But Ty Wigginton is an All-Star ?!?!
by DAWNMARIE01 on Nov 16, 2011 10:09 AM MST up reply actions
I think these pictures are responsible for my desire for Ty Wigginton to go away.
They give me nightmares.
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by glaucophane on Nov 16, 2011 10:15 AM MST up reply actions
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 16, 2011 10:48 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
lord have mercy
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 10:49 AM MST up reply actions
...
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by hotdoglady on Nov 16, 2011 11:02 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
YAHTZEE
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 16, 2011 11:14 AM MST up reply actions
Quit wiggin' us all out!
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It's anyway, not anyways.
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i'd like a matt garza, please and thank you
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/11/cubs-willing-to-listen-on-everyone.html
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
iawtc
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and the longball
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 16, 2011 9:25 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Wow. Getting Garza would take a king's ransom
Maybe it takes another team out of the running for the guys we’re actually after ….
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THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
I would so love THIS
100 days until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
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A bit OT, but think about this
If the Rockies had been offered $70 million to move to the AL West, should they have taken the deal? That’s $10 mil more in payroll for 7 years, or maybe 1/2 of what it would take to sign Pujols for 5-6 years.
The Astros’ new owner took that deal. Would the Monforts have done so?
Or it would have paid for Cargo's contract...
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no way
we can’t compete in a division that has an awful lot of parity. our chances against texas and anaheim? next to nothing
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We do really, really well in interleague play
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sample size
we are not a better team than texas or anaheim, sorry.
We're weren't better than Arizona, San Fran, or LA in our current divsion either so I'm not really sure what your getting at
Muzia’s point was that we play really well against American League teams. For instance, in the last ten seasons (2002-2011), the Rockies have average 77 wins (A .475 winning %). However, the Rockies (who conveniently played exactly 162 interleague games over this time span) have 88 wins, 74 losses, and a winning % of .543.
That’s a significant jump.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 16, 2011 10:38 AM MST up reply actions
We‘re weren’t
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 16, 2011 10:38 AM MST up reply actions
at coors field, in small sample sizes
36 games a year against those 2? no way
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
a DH would be pretty sick (not to trip off some annoying discussion about how one league is better than the other). It’d also mean we could do something with McBride…
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Giambi might have nixed the deal
Feeling that it would place his twice-a-month work schedule in jeopardy.
If MLB ever goes all-DH or no-DH, I would welcome a move to the AL. But if given the choice right now, I like staying put.
by Northsider1964 on Nov 16, 2011 9:24 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
The switch won't happen until 2013
But who’s to say Giambi won’t still be here then? He’s very popular with his teammates.
He only gets half of it
the new owner will get the other half
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This might be a bit overdramatic.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 9:48 AM MST up reply actions
A $70M groupon.
/as long as the groupon was for Smashburger
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 16, 2011 9:49 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
I brought this idea up in a fanpost and got few takers...
But I’d’ve considered it. I think we have the worst division in baseball to try to pick up road wins. Previously, conditions at least gave us a shot at winning in Phoenix. Then the Zonies got themselves some pitching. I’d move out of the NL West in a heartbeat.
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It's anyway, not anyways.
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haha
Sizemore’s full name is: Gradius Sizemore III.
Heh… Gradius.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 16, 2011 9:25 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Okay that is an awesome name
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Someone's parents had been reading Gibbons
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sounds like a math term
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 10:14 AM MST up reply actions
Does that mean his contract will have to come with 1-4 options?
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question
whatever happened to destro and casbah?
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
They work.
But PD was on here a few days ago.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 9:27 AM MST up reply actions
what is this...
“work?”
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
Work, 25 kids, etc.
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So they are the Duggars? I knew it.
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Well, soon-to-be four.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 9:42 AM MST up reply actions
I thought it was five? I can't keep track
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Nope.
Pretty sure that it’s three now. Girl: 6, Girl 4: Boy: 2.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 9:49 AM MST up reply actions
that make 12
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
hahahahaha
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Oh please. Don't insult them that way.
I mean PD and RtC
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They generally are here mostly in game threads and game wraps (even during the season)
So for the most part – No Games = No Destro & Casbah
Destro was here on November 9th, but before that the last time either of them were here was October 28th – Game 7 of the World Series.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 16, 2011 9:47 AM MST up reply actions
Dammit, RIRF.
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by Muzia on Nov 16, 2011 9:48 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
/hums “He’ll Be Watching You.”
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/he'll be watching you
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by SDcat09 on Nov 16, 2011 9:51 AM MST up reply actions 3 recs
My brother was on the Coors Field tour, and one of the guys was saying that Giambi’s preparation for games is exactly the same every time. During the game, when it looks like he’ll pinch hit (in the 9th inning, that’s what pinch hitter are for), he’ll go back into the cage and takes as many swings as he has to until he hits one really well. No matter how long it took, he says “Still got it” and walks back to the bench.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 16, 2011 9:28 AM MST reply actions
This is depressing
and hilarious.
Goodbye 2011, hello uncertainty about 2012...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 9:59 AM MST up reply actions
qe
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 16, 2011 9:45 AM MST via mobile reply actions
umm.... wut?
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qe2
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by Junction Rox on Nov 16, 2011 9:47 AM MST up reply actions
Sports Cards for Insane People.
This is amazing.
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“Hey, kids! Do you need to go to the hospital? Try hospitals!”
This is awesome. I tried a joke like that once, it never went anywhere.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 16, 2011 11:24 AM MST up reply actions
I have a few of those from the Rockies
not nearly as cool
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JFK
So now it looks like we do get a pick for Ellis
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Those changes with the new CBA should start until next season
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 16, 2011 10:16 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
should not start
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 16, 2011 10:17 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Excellent news
Getting a supplemental round pick for 3.5 months of Ellis is really gift.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 16, 2011 10:18 AM MST up reply actions
haha yes it is, which is why we need to get rid of it
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 16, 2011 10:18 AM MST up reply actions
Is it really too late to trade Ellis' rights to Toronto?
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That .737 OPS for Rockie righties against LHP Jeff mentions
is even worse when you take away Tulo and Iannetta’s 282 PA’s. The other 955 times a Rockie righty came to the plate against a LHP in 2011, their OPS was .649.
Let it sink in……….
.649 OPS…….
Right handers against LHP………
Half the games at Coors Field……..
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 16, 2011 9:55 AM MST reply actions
Seth Smith is a career .649 OPS against Lefties
..just sayin’
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so what you're saying is,,,,
seth smith was the only LHB to face LHP
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
Baseball Prospectus published another incredible article today.
A major-league pitcher does not only control whether he gets ground balls or fly balls; he also has a significant degree of control over how hard the ball is hit, though the batter has somewhat more control over the quality of contact than the pitcher.
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somewhere, dave cameron just fainted
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
As a DIPS apostate this makes me warm inside
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With all due respect
how is this quote possibly interesting? This is a flatly obvious statement (at least the first part, the latter part perhaps not).
that controlling how fast the ball flies off the bat is an actual skill? I find that very interesting.
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Of course it is. Having some (not all) control over that
is so basic its not really worth discussing.
But it's worth commenting on
how stupid you think it is?
/confused
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 10:50 AM MST up reply actions
nothing is really "worth" commenting on
but I did anyway. Can’t miss a chance to take a shot at certain things.
but using PitchFX to statistically determine how good a pitcher is at controlling ball speed?
I find that remarkable. Apparently you don’t.
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of course that part is interesting...
the evolution of SABR stuff is interesting in general. But part of the reason that it is interesting is how bizarre some of the previously-sacred assumptions were.
Well it might be interesting to people other than you :)
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Of course it is
I’m sure its an atom bomb to some. I was just taking a shot…
At muzia for posting it?
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not at muzia at all
though I suppose I can see how it could come off that way, and was hopefully not taken by him as such.
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HUH
That’s got to be the biggest flop as an answer as Perry forgetting the 3rd agency to get rid of.
by goodniteirene on Nov 16, 2011 10:53 AM MST up reply actions
Anyone else here agree that Kelly Johnson is almost as good as Prado?
He had a bad first half in AZ – BABIP driven- but I was surprised how decent he was in Toronto. Why not make some noise on signing him and increase the pressure on Atlanta?
by BostonTransplant on Nov 16, 2011 10:05 AM MST via mobile reply actions
This depends on how you define “almost.” But Prado is pretty clearly better. I think the issue is that he is going to cost more than Prado, though he won’t necessary play any better.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 10:13 AM MST up reply actions
I think it's that Prado fits the teams needs a lot better
3b and 2b, he’s a high contact hitter from the right side and he’ll be cheaper…
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But with that versatility
he fits the teams needs even if we sign Johnson.
And yes, I know, that versatility also makes him a very dangerous toy to give Tracy to play with. But then, pretty much all toys contain some small dangerous parts, and Tracy has to play with something…
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by Junction Rox on Nov 16, 2011 10:54 AM MST up reply actions
He's less likely to choke on Prado.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 16, 2011 10:55 AM MST up reply actions
I made this as a throw away comment last night but with reports of 30 interleague games likely once the Astros move to the AL in 2013
I’d like to know what folks think this idea for a schedule breakdown.
For interleague…..
1) 30 interleague games means 10 three game series against teams from the opposite league
2) Five of those ten series will always be against the teams in the same geographic divsion in the other league. (For example: This means the Rockies would always play the five teams in the AL West once regardless of the year – Rangers, Angels, A’s, Mariners, and now the Astros)
3) Teams will then alternate play against the other divsion each year. (Example:In even numbered years, the Rockies would always play the AL East and in odd numbered years the Rockies would always play the AL Central)
This would……….
A) Allow the same city natural rivals to continue to play each other every year (For instance, the Mets and Yankees are both in the east divsions so according to rule #2, they would always play one series against each other.)
B) Keep cross country travel down. (Since half of your interleague games will always be against the same geographic divsion in the other league, only the other five interleague series could possibly be on the other end of the country – and at least two of those series have to be at home. So the most cross country interleague series a team could possibly play under this system is three)
C) Make it as fair as possible. (Every team in each division would play the same 10 teams each season in interleague play and every team in each league would have at least five common interleague opponents)
For the 162 game season as a whole with 30 interleague games…..
The schedule becomes balanced. Teams will now have 72 divsion games (18 against each opponent just like now), 30 interleague games (hopefully broken up the way I’ve described above), and 60 games against the other 10 teams in the same league as you not in your divsion – In the Rockies case, the Cubs, Cards, Brewers, Pirates, Reds, Phillies, Mets, Marlins, Nationals, and Braves. (This fits PERFECTLY because now you have six games agaisnt each of these teams – three at home, and three away)
Total – 72 (divsion games) + 30 (interleague games) + 60 (Intraleague non divsion games) = 162 game season.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 16, 2011 10:13 AM MST reply actions
I ak,lready shared my thoughts in the other thread.
It’s not balanced enough a schedule for me until every team in every division plays exactly the same teams. So I want to eliminate the AL/NL rivalry requirement every season.
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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 16, 2011 11:15 AM MST up reply actions
I don't know if you'll ever get that, but it does appear as though they are going to take a significant step in that direction
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 16, 2011 11:20 AM MST up reply actions
So is there is going to have to be at least one interleague serious happening at all times because of 15 teams per league?
I really must be living under a rock… The Astros will be in the AL?!? It seems to fit. And the more balanced schedule approach will be better.
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by BittenAnkles on Nov 16, 2011 1:59 PM MST up reply actions
I know I'm probably way out of the loop
but wow I just heard about Jim Armstrong and the gambling ring, very interesting stuff. Obviously he had no affect on the outcome of the games, but is it similair to insider trading? Using insider info on bets. Obviously insider info on gambling is an advantage and in no way illegal, its just the whole gambling thing is kind of illegal. Interesting to think about. Sad way to end a long career
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If CO had sports books in their casinos this probably would have been a non issue with him.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 16, 2011 10:22 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Nope.
Journalists shouldn’t be gambling on what they are covering, legal or not. He would have been gone either way.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 10:23 AM MST up reply actions
why can't journalists gamble?
The striclty report the news about the teams. Sure they get news befre everyone else does but the news will be reported eventually either by him or someone else. He has absolutely no ability to alter the outcome of the game so why should he not be allowed to gamble?
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 10:25 AM MST up reply actions
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while im sure this is the case
It’s off of a Wiki so i have a hard time finding that as a credible source. Would you consdier it unethical for Armstrong to bet on the Nuggets?
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 10:28 AM MST up reply actions
Because it lends itself to the possibility of impropriety. He may decide to report or not report information based on how that might affect odds. He may also choose to report something that is false in order to alter odds for himself or for his bookies. It’s just not a good idea.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 10:27 AM MST up reply actions
did he gamble on the Rox
or other teams?
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 10:29 AM MST up reply actions
It doesn't matter.
His job is to be an objective and unbiased reporter, and a representative of the Denver Post.
The first part may or not have been compromised, but the second part certainly was.
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It doesn't matter.
If he gets indebted to a sports book and they tell him to maybe report such-and-such information in order to clear his debt, he has been compromised.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 10:31 AM MST up reply actions
our posts are eerily similar
I think I’ve been compromised.
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Oh. Okay. I see where you are coming from.
But even in that case, what he does or doesn’t report would be verified or dismissed by other writers correct? So he would just look incompetent at that point as opposed to compromised..
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Why would the Post even risk that happening?
They fired him, and rightfully so.
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Ah
didn’t realize he was dealing with a bookie… that changes everything.
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 10:34 AM MST up reply actions
But he was doing it through an illegal bookie.
If he was betting in a legal spot, like Vegas, it would not be near the issue it was.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 16, 2011 10:46 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
see thats what i assumed he was doing
i had no idea it was with a bookie… in that case i think he deserves what was handed to him.
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 10:49 AM MST up reply actions
I have a hard time likening this to insider trading.
I don’t see what kind of insider information he could get besides injury status or lineups or such, would be of benefit. But I don’t really gamble so, maybe I don’t know how it would work.
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That is basically the extent to what I was thinking was just injury status type stuff. If he knew Champ was really at 50% but wasn’t really telling anybody or if JDLR was hurting. I know its very different but it could provide some advantage
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 16, 2011 10:25 AM MST up reply actions
Even in that case,
a player could get hurt during the game, or a ref makes a call that totally changes the outcome of the game. I still don’t see how a journalist betting on a game is a problem.
Now, a coach, player, or refereee etc…
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i agree
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 10:29 AM MST up reply actions
It is not whether he affects the games,
but whether the gambling would affect his reporting.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 10:28 AM MST up reply actions
Huh? I never said he affected the games.
Isn’t the point of gambling for the gambler to win something for the effort? What information could he have that would give him an edge as to said outcome.
I don’t see how his reporting or lack there of would affect a game either.
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or his reporting...
sorry not following this
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I don’t see how his reporting or lack there of would affect a game either.
Speaking on sports in general, not this situation specifically…here’s a handy anecdote that’s not entirely far-fetched.
First, the acknowledgment that a journalist has meetings, calls, etc., with coaches often. Not just the head coaches, but staff members, front office personnel, etc. He’s doing a feature, or he’s checking a rumor, etc. They converse while walking off the practice field. The reporter is tracking down this player, but just thought he’d drop in to say hello.
That’s everyday life as a journalist. He’s just doing his job, right?? Year after year, he’s able to build and maintain friendly relationships with staff members.
So let’s say he’s in debt to a bookie and needs to provide the bookie with a means to affect the betting lines to further benefit the house. It doesn’t even have to be win or loss. Affecting the over/under is enough.
All of a sudden, he’s subtly inserting an idea in these conversations with personnel. How about running zone against this team when they use that formation, coach?? That corner sure looks susceptible to getting beat on this route. Gotta manage the clock against this team, because their offense can put up big numbers against your secondary. And so forth.
Just friendly advice, free for the taking.
Maybe his comments have no effect whatsoever most weeks, but every now and then a coach picks up on an idea. He should run zone defense to limit the big play impact, and he really needs to grind on that clock even though his offense isn’t the most run-oriented team.
The journalist has effectively dropped the over/under by subtle influence.
The bookie, or Vegas books for that matter, follows suit and drops the O/U by just a few points. Wow, the over sure looks good now!! Bettors take it hook, line, and sinker, betting the over because there’s no way the teams limit the scoring to that mark.
The team goes out determined to play the clock, and the scoring in the game is depressed by a couple TDs. Bettors lose, the house wins big, and the journalist has effected the game by depressing the scoring environment through subtle and seemingly innocent influence.
All it takes is a couple sentences of friendly banter, every day, for a couple years.
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It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
I dig your point
but the idea of Jim Armstrong influencing a team by suggesting strategy is very funny. Or….maybe we just found out why the team stinks all of a sudden!
Plus, as part of these 'friendly' conversations, a player or coach could tell him something "off the record"
That doesn’t wind up in the paper but does wind up in the ear of the bookie. Just a bad place to be.
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I think the ability to influence tactics is far-fetched
When a reporter can materially influence betting by manipulating the information stream, which is a real and genuine threat.
Secondly, the insider trading element – knowing info unknown to the bookmaker would give the reporter an unfair advantage. I’m not too fussed about this – in a sense it’s every gambler’s prerogative to do as much research as possible and if that gives them info the bookie doesn’t have, then good on them. But it’s still a grey area.
Id take Prado and Sizemore
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I think Niemann's far and away the best of the SP's mentioned
But it would take a truckload of talent, starting I’d guess with Rosario, to get him. Watch put on Sanchez: The no-hitters and one hitters are sexy, but he’s a control pitcher with a complicated delivery and can get out of whack very easily.
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yea i know what you mean with Anibal
And Niemann is nice…. but not Rosario nice.
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 10:38 AM MST up reply actions
..... I don't think it'd take that much..
He’s like a 4-5 starter on that team right now.
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 16, 2011 2:21 PM MST up reply actions
Big mistake trading Wheeler and Blackmon, for what trying to ressurect Sizemore ’s career. We have heard that tune before. You want Prado get him , givem Smith, Stewart or even Frazier or Parker.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 10:41 AM MST up reply actions
trade Parker but not Wheeler/Blackmon?
No.
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 16, 2011 2:21 PM MST up reply actions
I actually think I might be more comfortable with trading Parker, but I’m not sold on that idea. Unless Parker has a big breakout next season he’s unlikely to contribute for a while…
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How about pitching
If you can’t get anybody out then what the use in looking for positon players, the focus should be entirely devouted to finding pitching. Don’t think for one iota that the our latin collection of pitchers are going to do the trick. I’ll give you Chacin, but heck hes 25 and has been in this organization since he was 16.
Well, you know, you need position players to score runs.
And if you score more runs than the other team, you win.
Even if the other team scores a lot of runs.
Plus, position players play defense, which helps with the whole “getting people out” thing.
What!!
This team has the “MO” of not hitting in the clutch so what makes you think they will outscore people. Pitching my friend win championships.
by goodniteirene on Nov 16, 2011 10:45 AM MST up reply actions
Chacin doesn’t even turn 24 until January…..
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my mistake on dob
But he has still been in this org for the past 8 years.
by goodniteirene on Nov 16, 2011 10:51 AM MST up reply actions
and he's likely to be a pretty good pitcher for several more years
Pomeranz
White
Chacin
Nicasio
Bettis
Anderson
Friedrich
Scahill
Gardner
Cabrera
This is a list of under 25 pitchers that are likely to start a game for the Rockies within the next two seasons. That’s a pretty good collection of arms.
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He has turned in two of the top 5 season in Rockies history in his age 22-23 seasons
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it's almost impressive
how much depth we have vis a vis how few ‘sure things’ we have. TINSTAAP aside, I’m only really comfortable assuming Pomeranz and Nicasio will actually be productive major leaguers.
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I wish people would stop freaking out about Friedrich.
Just because he’s fallen from top prospect status doesn’t make him the next greg Reynolds. He should still be treated as a serious option for a future with the team at this point.
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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 16, 2011 2:33 PM MST up reply actions
I was right there with you
but Amart and I studied his 2011 splits, and it tells the story of a really hittable pitcher. I’m concerned.
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I've looked at those too, though not in depth enough to claim I've studied them.
I’m not saying skepticism isn’t warranted, just that jumping to a conclusion that a Friedrich promotion is “ew” worthy is more than a little bit of a jump here.
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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 16, 2011 2:41 PM MST up reply actions
over 20% LD rate
over 80% contact rate on swings inside strike zone .
He’s fooling no one, and he’s not missing any bats. That’s a really bad combo.
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it's brand new
but yes, their splits are FANTASTIC. I’m pretty excited to use it next season.
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He wasn't very hittable
against the Rockies in March though…
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idk...
He might be in Tulsa for a third consecutive year next year, and his peripherals have looked progressively worse each year. He also hasn’t pitched more than ~130 innings in a season yet
I'm aware of these things, and I stand by my claim.
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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 16, 2011 2:42 PM MST up reply actions
And?
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 16, 2011 10:55 AM MST up reply actions
All the pitchers on the market right now
are relatively the same skill level with a few of them being better than others. However there are several of them on the market as we speek. Currently there are no 2B on the market besides Clint Barmes (almost just vomited) and Martin Prado. Therefor you address the situation with less possibilites first and then move on to your next situation.
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 10:44 AM MST up reply actions
Sounds nice
We wouldn’t have this problem if PD would of developed some pitching. Not to mention the fact that only pitcher who has stuck around since 2000 was Jeff Francis. So you do the math in some 11 drafts.
by goodniteirene on Nov 16, 2011 10:49 AM MST up reply actions
im not arguing with you that the picthing here sucks
it really does. I just was trying to explain what I view the Rcokies doing. To be honest, any arm Colorado adds is not really going to make a difference. This team will be 80-90 wins a year if lucky until they acquire an ace… Hello Cole Hammels. Will that ever happen? Probably not unless it’s thru the farm system.
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 10:52 AM MST up reply actions
sorry
I didn’t mean to sound like i was arguing, so please forgive me.
by goodniteirene on Nov 16, 2011 10:55 AM MST up reply actions
lol no need to apologize
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 10:56 AM MST up reply actions
And there is very much hope in the farm
Jhoulys Chacin isn’t part of it anymore, but he’s young and has nowhere to go but up. Drew Pomeranz, of course, could easily develop into an ace. White, Bettis, Anderson, and Cabrera all look like they could develop into 2/3 types.
Could
such a crappy word isn’t it? Could makes me think pessimistically. Honestly what do you think it would take to get Hammels from Philly?
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 10:58 AM MST up reply actions
And something like a $120M extension
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id do it
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:02 AM MST up reply actions
You have $120 million?
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Nov 16, 2011 11:25 AM MST up reply actions
yep
im in the process of buying the Rockies as we speak
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:26 AM MST up reply actions
I'll be submitting my application as soon as the sale is complete.
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:27 AM MST up reply actions
o_O
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fine ill just make you the coach
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:42 AM MST up reply actions
LOL
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hah
=)
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:47 AM MST up reply actions
Seems a bit much for just one year of team control
And since 2012 is supposed to be a semi-rebuilding year for us before the next wave of prospects hit, trading for him now wouldn’t make much sense.
i know
but if the Rox had him even for one year I think they could have a shot at winning it all
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:03 AM MST up reply actions
all of 88 games, you mean…
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i truly believe
with a lineup of Cargo and Tulo to go with an ace in Hammels who has won it before as well as the leaderhsip from a guy like Helton and the possible additions of Sizemore and Prado that the Rockies would be one of teh most dangerous teams in baseball.
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:07 AM MST up reply actions
oh, you didn't mention that we got 2006 Grady Sizemore and 2010 Martin Prado
Carry on then.
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hahahah
=)
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:11 AM MST up reply actions
very true
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:02 AM MST up reply actions
I don't want?
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you wouldn't want Cole Hammels?
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:02 AM MST up reply actions
for free? absolutely
for cheap? also absolutely
It ain’t happenin’
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i know its not
but if he were to partake in a sign and trade at lets say 5 years 80 mil was committed to him for Arenado and Rosario are you saying you wouldn’t make that deal?
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:09 AM MST up reply actions
.
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Was he ever a WS MVP?
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:12 AM MST up reply actions
Juan Pierre was, and I imagine he is available
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come on now
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:14 AM MST up reply actions
David Eckstein was, and I imagine he is available
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again
come on now.
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:14 AM MST up reply actions
He'
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ahem.
He’s a really good pitcher and all, but there’s a reason we don’t spend a zillion dollars on free agent pitchers anymore.
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fair enough
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:17 AM MST up reply actions
and give up top 2 prospects for him
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 16, 2011 2:24 PM MST up reply actions
In 2010
Eckstein had a .299/.348/.358 road line while playing in SD and he is younger than Jamey Carroll I wouldn’t giving him a shot
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But but but...
Pitchers hittin’ dingers
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/Hamels
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 16, 2011 11:05 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Are we looking at including Friedrich in any of the trades mentioned?
If we are going to go get someone like Francis for the 5th rotation spot, why not just use him?
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 16, 2011 10:54 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Too many Chiefs in the bullpen
He and allot of other pitchers would be alright if every pitching coach wouldn’t tinker with these guys every 2 seconds. Let’em go and get people out.
by goodniteirene on Nov 16, 2011 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
Friedrich's trade value is essentially zero right now
I believe DO’D offered Friedrich and to take on the entirety of Wandy Rodriguez’ contract last year, and Ed Wade turned him down.
Adam Foster just tweeted the following
If I dated baseball swings, right now I’d be going steady with Nolan Arenado’s.
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I wanna see this kid's swing
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:09 AM MST up reply actions
one day I'll make a better quality gif of this
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where is this kid from?
and does he have power? but that is a very sweet swing
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:16 AM MST up reply actions
California HS
And the power is developing as we speak. His ceiling is sky-high.
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okay
just looked at some video of him… Damn. Kid looks like he’s gonna be a stud. Look at his futures film… he looks like he’s gained a lot more muscle than in that GIF.
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:21 AM MST up reply actions
I shot that video in May
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you shot the GIF above
or the futures game?
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:23 AM MST up reply actions
I hastily made that gif from video I shot at Modesto this past May.
I also have some video from Asheville last fall.
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damn man thats cool
have you just been following this kid or are you a scout or what?
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:26 AM MST up reply actions
/he’ll be watching you
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 11:27 AM MST up reply actions
I have a slight crush on the kid....
Nah, it just happens that my vacations end up in these area. And I have a very understanding girlfriend who doesn’t mind staying three days in Modesto.
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very nice
good work. I def like what i see with the kid… what’s his age?
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 11:29 AM MST up reply actions
Lots of horses there.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 11:29 AM MST up reply actions
....
wow.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 11:31 AM MST up reply actions
and wine.
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"a very understanding girlfriend"
that may be the biggest understatement I’ve heard this year in context.
It turns out she hates Delta Cleary, Jr as much as I do.
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But
Did she know who Delta Cleary Jr. was before she met you?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 16, 2011 11:33 AM MST up reply actions
I don't know,
but if she ever meets Arenado, Muzia might be looking for a new girlfriend. ;)
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 1:01 PM MST up reply actions
had to throw in the gf...
after the mancrush.
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 16, 2011 2:25 PM MST up reply actions
That's pretty beautiful.
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by prettyinpurple on Nov 16, 2011 11:22 AM MST up reply actions
Almost a mirror image of CarGo
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His right elbow stays up more, I think
Cargo’s right elbow is lower and makes him torque the snot out of his wrist. Causes concern that his recurring tendinitis is going to be a long-term thing.
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I see more Longoria than Cargo
But whatever. It is pretty. First time I saw video I thought his swing looked a little slow. Not so much anymore.
by BostonTransplant on Nov 16, 2011 12:35 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
cargo's swing is much longer
extends his arms more
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
which equates
to more power
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 12:38 PM MST up reply actions
Arenad-owns
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Heh, like he's got a shot with that tease.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 16, 2011 11:15 AM MST up reply actions
Foster will strike out, which is also something Arenado’s swing doesn’t do
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This is just begging for my rec
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Just curious
What are your guys’ thoughts on going after a Japanese starter like Hisashi Iwakuma or Tsuyoshi Wada? If I remember correctly, both of those players are free agents now and no longer subject to the posting system.
I feel like the two would be fairly affordable given the bad rep that Japanese pitchers have gotten from flaming out here in the States. I just feel like most of them have been saddled with unfairly high expectations in large media markets (Igawa, Matsuzaka, etc, etc). It seems like the players who come over without as much fanfare (Kuroda, Uehara, Saito) have done fairly well.
Give it a shot
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 16, 2011 12:07 PM MST up reply actions
i hear he is good
and that the Yankees and Sox are lookin at him therefor the Rox have no shot
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 12:08 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe Tulo and Cargo can sway his mind.
Too bad $ will be his main thing
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yea
i just looked up video on him… he’s a freak
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 1:31 PM MST up reply actions
huh?
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 1:33 PM MST up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHA
well played.
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this is funny
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
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Did you afix a mustache to the Sam Elliot?
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Ah ha ha ha
That’s a good point. Actually, if he hasn’t received it by now, I’d be concerned.
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I haven't received anything from Mines...but I assume it had something to do for my sister
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by prettyinpurple on Nov 16, 2011 11:59 AM MST up reply actions
Its Gievitte way
No one advances till they have a good year in the league they play in. Arenado won’t be up soon, especially if he falls on his face in Tulsa. The pitching will be better there. A real test for him. But Wheeler figured it out. So good luck
by goodniteirene on Nov 16, 2011 9:23 PM MST up reply actions
there's a reason they call it a "promotion"
Also, Josh Rutledge is a huge counter example to your argument. So is Wilin Rosario. So is Matt Holliday.
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whats the competitioon like in that league
A players? AA Players?
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 12:02 PM MST up reply actions
the best offensive prospects
AA and above
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
wow
give him some run with the Rockies in the Spring please.
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 12:05 PM MST up reply actions
he'll definitely be in spring training with the rockies
then very likely start the season in aa
by purplesocks on Nov 16, 2011 12:48 PM MST up reply actions
i hope he tears it up
and starts at 3rd on opening day. This team needs some excitement like that
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 12:53 PM MST up reply actions
People were saying similar things
about Pacheco last spring when he tore it up, and Jeff Baker too (although neither of those have/had the upside of Arenado). I think he should start at AA and force his way up like Nicasio did, and I think he will.
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I’m still not seeing any real confirmation of this anywhere…
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Alanna Rizzo doesn't count as a reliable source?
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Chuck Testa?
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Noooope!
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Nope.
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She seems to have picked it up from Weathers:
caseymweathers Casey Weathers
Nolan Arenado. MVP of the fall league. It’s offish
Reply:
alannarizzo Alanna Rizzo
@
@caseymweathers – official by you or did they actually announce it? :)
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 1:17 PM MST up reply actions
And the SDCat referenced tweet is no longer there.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 1:18 PM MST up reply actions
Precisely.
I think someone jumped the gun.
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someone = Alanna
She’s so cute when she tries to be a journalist.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 1:21 PM MST up reply actions
shes very attractive
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if you say otherwise you risk a ban
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by hotdoglady on Nov 16, 2011 2:08 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I maintain that she’s attractive, but she’s like cutest-girl-in-your-high-school attractive not sideline-eye-candy attractive. But, if you saw he in bar, you’d take notice.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 2:13 PM MST up reply actions
I'm afraid that's an insult to cute girls. :(
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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 16, 2011 2:36 PM MST up reply actions
+1
I mean, rec.
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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 16, 2011 2:36 PM MST up reply actions
I'm not even going to get going on Alanna
Whistles while walking away trying not to break out a BIG smile.
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Her master's degree in journalism and mass communications agrees
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she's always cute
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
Could be a jump the gun. But in the end she may still be right ....or wrong...:)
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It's like a circle of life or something
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This was on xkcd today.
It seems fitting.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 2:08 PM MST up reply actions
Oh yeah, I just saw that
So I guess Alanna either has a scoop, or it’s not official yet.
by Northsider1964 on Nov 16, 2011 2:05 PM MST up reply actions
Nope.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 2:10 PM MST up reply actions
This is hilarious
Goodbye 2011, hello uncertainty about 2012...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 2:08 PM MST up reply actions
Also, there's an AFL MVP curse:
2010 — Dustin Ackley (Mariners), 2B, Peoria Javelinas
2009 — Grant Desme (Athletics), OF, Phoenix Desert Dogs
2008 — Tommy Hanson (Braves), RHP, Mesa Solar Sox
2007 — Sam Fuld (Cubs), OF, Mesa Solar Sox
2006 — Chip Cannon (Blue Jays), 1B, Phoenix Desert Dogs
2005 — Eric Duncan (Yankees), 3B, Grand Canyon Rafters
2004 — Chris Shelton (Tigers), DH, Grand Canyon Rafters
2003 — Jason Dubois (Cubs), OF, Mesa Solar Sox
2002 — Ken Harvey (Royals), 1B, Scottsdale Scorpions
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 2:11 PM MST up reply actions
Ackley is pretty good.
But yeah, I looked over that list earlier today. Unimpressive.
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what's tommy hanson, chump change?
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
Him too.
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Chris Sheltoooooooooooooon
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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Well it is 3-4 leagues worth of prospects in a SSS the variance of that group has
to be huge not WS level but certainly huge
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 16, 2011 4:25 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
how many of those were 20 years old though?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 16, 2011 4:26 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Also..
I don’t see any Salt River Rafters on that list. So he should break the trend.
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AL and NL Managers of the Year named
alannarizzo Alanna Rizzo
Kirk Gibson wins the NL Manager of the Year Award and Joe Maddon wins the AL Manager of the Year Award. Congratulations to both skippers.
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Is this according to a Casey Weathers tweet? ;-)
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by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 1:41 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
pitch
Casey Weathers ought to learn to throw strikes instead of spending his time “tweeting”
by goodniteirene on Nov 16, 2011 9:26 PM MST up reply actions
Yet Nolan Arenado continues to hit.
Just hit a double in the top the first.
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A worldwide draft isn't actually on the table for this labor deal, right?
At least, I haven’t seen anything to that effect. And I agree it would be a bad idea, so I hope it stays off the table.
We should do a 30 team fantasy draft
and see what our teams end up looking like.
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 16, 2011 1:02 PM MST up reply actions
dibs on the Red Sox
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 1:04 PM MST up reply actions
Every team gets to keep 1 player off of existing roster
I just want to keep Tulo
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 16, 2011 1:04 PM MST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure if I did it
I would draft all 25 year olds and younger. I always end up doing that
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 16, 2011 1:05 PM MST up reply actions
same here
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 1:06 PM MST up reply actions
Who under 25 would you take?
The only one I would consider off the top of my head is Kershaw. I’ll take Tulo over Heyward or Upton
Mike Stanton
Justin Upton
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 1:20 PM MST up reply actions
Felix Hernandez too.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 16, 2011 1:40 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
mike trout
matt moore
stephen strasburg
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
you would take trout with your first pick of a MLB redraft?
he hasn’t done anything yet
if the pool is only under-25 year olds?
absolutely
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
No Bryce Harper eh?
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 4:48 PM MST up reply actions
What about D-Pomz?
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by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 4:50 PM MST up reply actions
Pomeranz?
If im drafting a team thats strictly under 25 to start my franchise im looking at the top bat ie. Stanton, Harper etc.
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 4:51 PM MST up reply actions
trout is a better prospect than harper
better in every tool except power, which has plenty of time to develop. plus trout was playing in MLB while harper was dragging ass in AA
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
Well this is interesting
Talked to several agents and execs today. Rockies are being aggressive in pursuit of Oswalt. Oswalt interested but in no rush per Troy Renk
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and
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For Oswalt makes sense to wait until buehrle, Wilson sign to help define his market
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 1:25 PM MST up reply actions
Also
Of note regarding Oswalt is that he’s open to Colorado. That’s a start. He’s always pitched well in denver. But will have a lot of suitors
I still don’t really think it happens, but this is more interest from him (however mild it may or may not be) than I ever expected.
i think the only way he signs
one fr the right price and 2 cuz colorado is beautiful and i think it would suit his needs
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 1:43 PM MST up reply actions
If we fill our holes offensively,
then I think you take a shot. But, if we aren’t going to score runs this year, I’d rather wait on our pitching to improve through development.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 1:44 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe him and Todd can be BFFs driving around Helton's ranch on Roy's bulldozer while shooting at tasty animals.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 16, 2011 1:35 PM MST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
no no no no no
look what happened with barmes.
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You know...
I’m starting to think Tulo was hiding in that stairwell and somehow tripped Barmes…..
#conspiracy101
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Oh you mean how he hurt himself when he fell down the stairs?
And by falling down the stairs, I mean carrying a full, undressed, freshly killed deer carcass up several flights of stairs in his downtown apartment.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 16, 2011 1:44 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Aren't all deer undressed?
I mean, who puts clothes on Bambi? Sick bastards.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 1:46 PM MST up reply actions
The bulldozer thing is one of the main reasons I like him.
Also, this:
by holly96 on Nov 16, 2011 1:50 PM MST up reply actions 5 recs
He also plays LF better than Wiggy or EY
Roy Oswalt, late-inning defensive replacement!
by Northsider1964 on Nov 16, 2011 1:51 PM MST up reply actions
Are you kidding me?
He’d be a great clubhouse fit – there are multiple members on the Rockies roster who I can see doing that (CarGo, Spilly, Street, Dexter, etc.)… Make it happen DOD
Goodbye 2011, hello uncertainty about 2012...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 1:57 PM MST up reply actions
the less we see of jim tracy, the better
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
he rules
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wtf: at first I thought that there was a continuous stream of Oswalts walking through
I didn’t realize that Greg Dobbs was the guy heading down the stairs at the beginning of the clip
I wouldn't mind Greg Dobbs playing 3rd
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by Resolution on Nov 16, 2011 2:27 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
well how come that one fan kept getting stuck with the Joe Blanton game?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 16, 2011 2:46 PM MST up reply actions
"Area man complains 'How come I only get to watch stupid Joe Blanton?"
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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HAHAHHAHA
exactly this.
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 16, 2011 2:30 PM MST up reply actions
This is amazing.
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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 16, 2011 2:39 PM MST up reply actions
matching walkers?
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 2:00 PM MST up reply actions
And get back treatment together like besties
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 16, 2011 2:50 PM MST up reply actions
I like the idea of acquiring Oswalt
because I personally feel like we have just enough prospect flexibility to make one major trade and just enough cash to make one big FA signing, but not enough prospects or cash independently to land two impact players.
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Renk just went on a twitter rampage
to sum it up the Rox not in on Furcal, they don’t think Atl needs a CF and if Prado doesn;t work out they might try orlando hudson
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maybe orlando cabrera and orlando hudson would like to share 2nd base and we could all hope that we turn back their clocks like 5 years
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 16, 2011 2:56 PM MST up reply actions
if only
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 3:41 PM MST up reply actions
Hardballtalk
says Francona won’t manage in 2012. I don’t know if he’d be the best manager (I like Dave Martinez a lot more if only due to his Rays connection), but I’m happy there’s another non-Tracy person out there for us in the event we make a smart move and ditch Tracy…
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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But isn't Francona's hands-off mellow style very similar to Tracy's?
I think we need a fiery guy…it’s too bad Kirk Gibson’s going to be locked up with Arizona for a while
I agree
they need someone who’s gonna scream at these guys… I would have voted for Ozzie but he’s no longer available either
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 2:32 PM MST up reply actions
You may be right about that
though I don’t mind Francona’s style if he actually makes smart decisions. We don’t necessarily need someone to come in and be a major hype man, we need someone who is will to stick with starters, allow players to learn from mistakes, and not just bench people due to matchups/the weather/his horoscope
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If we get francona
can we have the Red Sox 2007 too? I guess I’d be cool with 2004 as well.
yeah, actually that kinda was
I hate myself for that.
Was Helton traded in 2007?
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Back to this Matt Garza thing.
Even though he gives up home runs (what pitcher don’t?) and the fact he would cost an arm, a leg and maybe something I can’t say on here. Who would want him?
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anyone else on that team that would be worthy of taking a look at?
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He'd be expensive.
So I don’t think we’ll even try. But that’s the kind of pitcher we need for this staff right now.
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 16, 2011 2:38 PM MST up reply actions
I know he will be to expensive for us.
But, just wondering WHO on here would want him
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i dont think there's a team out there that wouldn't want matt garza
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
I "want" him
I don’t want to pay what it would require to get him
he's pretty good
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 2:42 PM MST up reply actions
The 2011 Colorado Rockies own OOTP.
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They literally destroy.
But that right there is why the game is played on the field, not paper :-(
Goodbye 2011, hello uncertainty about 2012...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 2:45 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah and somehow their budget increases to like 130 mil after the first season too
And Aaron Cook is still really good, and Ian Stewart rakes, and Seth Smith is a superstar.
Every time I have played as the Rockies I have become a dynasty
from Renck's blog post
Before heading to Phoenix to work out with Matt Kemp later this winter, Fowler will stop in Vegas to train with Jason Giambi, Troy Tulowitzki and top third base prospect Nolan Arenado.
That would be some workout room.
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Good lord
Hopefully Fowler picks up some mojo and puts together a complete MLB caliber season
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by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 3:11 PM MST up reply actions
Well he’s not going to learn how to put a complete season together with Mr. I-can’t-start-two-days-in-a-row and Mr. I’m-the-best-SS-in-the-league-unless-it’s-April-or-May
Well I was thinking more of Kemp
and I think Tulo put together a very complete season for the first time in a while this last year
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by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 3:22 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah I was just kidding haha
Certainly it’s great that he and Arenado will get the opportunity to pick the minds of those guys
I tend to fall
into the sarchasm when I’m at work :-)
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by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 3:25 PM MST up reply actions
Or a lot of tattoos.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 16, 2011 3:19 PM MST up reply actions
OT:
#sixseasonsandamovie
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 16, 2011 3:24 PM MST up reply actions
#whitneysucks*
*i’ve only seen abut 3 minutes. but it sucked.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 16, 2011 3:28 PM MST up reply actions
I can't believe Community gets pulled in favor of Whitney and a Chelsea Handler show.
Though reading this article made me feel a bit better about the show’s prospects.
#gonnagetthatshowbackontheairbuddy
Don't even get me started :(
I might take to wearing a felt goatee (well technically a Van Dyke) but you know what I mean
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Heh.
I’m surprised no one has suggested a good game of paint ball to settle the matter.
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ugh, my favorite episode of the series is Modern Warfare
And the other two paint balling ones are great as well.
Hire a plane with a banner.
Worked once before (wasn’t the only reason, but it was seriously a factor, and it was awesome and hilarious to be involved).
yeah, it's not the death knell
but it’s never a good thing.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 16, 2011 3:38 PM MST up reply actions
I think this type of stuff is great
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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Working out with other players is highly overrated
and is just something for ppl and reporters to talk about. You only ever hear about who they worked out with in the off season and if they have a good season. You never hear about a player who is batting .200 on the year and how he worked out with elite boxing trainer so-and-so
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 17, 2011 7:21 AM MST up reply actions
I remember Holliday saying he was working out with Atkins pre-2010
didn’t seem to help Garret
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I have a name we haven't discussed: Milton Bradley
Right right. You say they’d never consider it. Well…you’re wrong. According to @cst_cubs, the rockies met with Bradley’s agents today.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 16, 2011 3:29 PM MST via mobile reply actions
We're so BOARD,
you must be playing GAMES with me.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 3:31 PM MST up reply actions
Seems like he'd be a real
RISK, considering his clubhouse attitude.
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by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 3:32 PM MST up reply actions
We could also hire Carl Everett, that water could have a MONOPOLY on insane outfielders
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 16, 2011 3:35 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
damn you autocorrect
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 16, 2011 3:36 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
We could also hire Carl Everett, that way we could have a MONOPOLY on insane outfielders
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 16, 2011 3:35 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Wait are you allowed to have 2 MONOPOLIES?
#1percenterlaughsmaniacally
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Goodbye 2011, hello uncertainty about 2012...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 3:37 PM MST up reply actions
I think we'd be very SORRY if we did this...
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
In line for seats at the Grand Junction Rockies 2012 home opener
by Junction Rox on Nov 16, 2011 9:23 PM MST up reply actions
What in the blue hell???
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ah, but we HAVE discussed this name before
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not this offseason. and not with any shred of seriousness
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 16, 2011 3:37 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
According to Cot's
they also represent Scott Rolen, Brandon Phillips, Miguel Cairo, Joaquin Benoit, Brandon Inge, and Jhonny Peralta.
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What do we think of David Cooper as a target in the Street trade
has a career .299/.373/.462 minor league line and would be an excellent stopgap/insurance for helton, had 9 HR in Las Vegas so not alot of HR power but his 51 2B would play well here
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maybe
but Las Vegas (and all PCL parks) inflate offensive numbers considerably so that line may be a bit underwhelming. How old is he?
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25 in february and had good lines in the years prior to the PCL
I doubt he matches his PCL .364/.439/.535 triple slash in the majors but he wouldn’t need to be a lot better than any option we have, which since we have one 37 YO LH 1B and one 41 YO 1B/DH could be bad news for us
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.378 BABIP in Vegas last year. Egads.
But at least he doesn’t strike out?
We can do better.
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the question is whether he is the
.333/.399/.502 .901 player he was across three levels in 2008 or the .258/.340/.389 in 2009, .257/.327/.442 in 2010, or the .364/.439/.535 he put up last year those are some pretty diverse outcomes.
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Well, he's definitely not the last one.
I’m not really a fan on sub-.800 OPS 1st basemen in the minors. They can’t really become anything.
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maybe not for Street
I’d still probably try to target Chad Jenkins but it’s hard to keep in mind that in reality, this is a salary dump…
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unfortunately
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 4:11 PM MST up reply actions
On their end?
He’s still a very good relief pitcher. We should get some value out of this trade.
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7 mm
to play with
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 4:17 PM MST up reply actions
Honestly, If I were the Blue Jays I don’t think I’d give up anything too valuable for Street. Though my perception of his value is changing as it looks like some form of Type A compensation will remain in the new CBA…
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the only way we get compensation
is if other teams enter the mix and it turns into a bidding war. Boston has expressed interest as has Minny. Things could get interesting
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 4:19 PM MST up reply actions
most teams are hesitant to hand out multi-year deals to relievers
but that’s going to be the norm this offseason, apparently.
Street is a good option for those teams, and should be worth something decent on the market.
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exactly
but if you only have one buyer then they hold the power… when Boston and Minny enter you gain all the power back
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 4:21 PM MST up reply actions
The OF in Las Vegas is pretty deep..
and the wall is 25’ high. It’s quite expansive.
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Red Sox want Street
Lets give em Street, Wiggington and any other crappy contract we have for Carl Crawford. Crawford doesn’t play well in the spotlight and needs a smaller market to succeed in. Can you imagine an outfield of Cargo, Carl and Dexter? I don’t think a ball would ever touch the grass. And then Carl hitting in front of Cargo and Tulo? That would be scary. Would never happen but it would be sweet =) Now go ahead and sound off on how much of an idiot i am and how Crawford is grossly overpayed in which the Rox would never even come close to touching.
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I LOVE this
But I also feel like I proposed it a few weeks ago and it got crickets.
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by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 3:45 PM MST up reply actions
i would
i don’t know what i would do if this happened. Carl Crawford is my favorite player in this league and him playing in Colorado would do wonders to his horrible stat line. He’d steal 50+ bases, hit 20 homers and win a gold glove. It would be awesome.
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 3:47 PM MST up reply actions
Yes
There’s just that $15MM thing
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by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 3:47 PM MST up reply actions
I know
The Rox could always bite the bullet this year and then once Todd Retires they are back to where they are now… I just wish they would spend a tad bit more… maybe get close to the 100 mil range.
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 3:51 PM MST up reply actions
I've heard whispers of $100MM in payroll
If those are true, picking up Crawford’s salary wouldn’t really hurt that much, especially with Street’s $7MM coming off the books
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by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 3:53 PM MST up reply actions
and the 2 mil
or whatever Ty is making
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 3:55 PM MST up reply actions
Now that I'm looking at it:
2012: 19.5MM
2013: 20MM
2014: 20.25MM
2015: 20.5MM
2016: 20.75MM
2017: 21MM
Doesn’t leave a lot of wiggle room outside of Tulo, Cargo, Crawford (not that there’s that much wiggle room outside the first two to begin with)
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by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 3:59 PM MST up reply actions
sheesh
that’s nasty… didn’t realize it was that high
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 4:00 PM MST up reply actions
Me either
Oh well… we can dream, right?
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by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 4:01 PM MST up reply actions
we can
As long as Crawford is on the Sox or Rox im happy
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 4:01 PM MST up reply actions
Well
as long as the Sox keep paying him ~$20 million a year to hit .250, I’ll behappy
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by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 4:03 PM MST up reply actions
hahaha
=)
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 4:05 PM MST up reply actions
Based on what I've seen and know about the organization, the team could hold a payroll around $115M and the Momforts would still be making money
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 16, 2011 4:15 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Well in that case
We should be a little more active during the offseason. And not “Ty Wigginton, Jose Morales” active. Seems like we should be a contender for the few FAs we actually want.
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by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 4:17 PM MST up reply actions
It's the "will ownership allow DOD to spend it though" debate again
And I really don’t want to get into it again.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 16, 2011 4:22 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Fair enough
i understand why there’s hesitation to go all-in, I’m just saying :-)
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by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 4:22 PM MST up reply actions
DOD with a $115M budget would absolutely terrify me as an opposing GM
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 16, 2011 4:35 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I'm right there with you
For every Jose Lopez, there’s a George of the Rose – add to that the fact that players actually LIKE it here…
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by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 4:38 PM MST up reply actions
i have no doubts we can carry $100m
especially if we start winning
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
we start winning
Hey! There’s a good idea!
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don't tell the team, though
they might start to get ideas…
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
Now go ahead and sound off on how much of an idiot i am and how Crawford is grossly overpayed in which the Rox would never even come close to touching.
I would, but someone beat me to it :)
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=)
i actually got an agreemnet before someone killin me for it!
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 3:47 PM MST up reply actions
Dex, Crawford, Cargo, Tulo, Helton
brb….changing pants
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 16, 2011 3:49 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Dex
Crawford
Cargo
Tulo
Prado
Helton
Stewart
Iannetta
…pending an Ian Stewart rebound, I’m salivating
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by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 3:51 PM MST up reply actions
Am I the only one that sees the irony of Crawford in RF?
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Wouldn't Cargo be in RF?
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Probably
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 16, 2011 3:58 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Cargo goes
to Right
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 3:55 PM MST up reply actions
We'll see. :)
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i wish we could see
I guarentee you wouldn’t see only half of Coors Field full if it did happen
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 4:01 PM MST up reply actions
Even in 2011
we didn’t see half full Coors that often
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Attendance this year
was the best it has been since 2001. Average attendance per game 35,923.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 6:37 PM MST up reply actions
Crawford killed the right fielder star.
I hope that comes across right
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I dig it
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Exactly LOL
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screw stewie
insert Nolan and let him watch and learn
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 3:57 PM MST up reply actions
I'm just hoping he can get
even half of a decent season in before Nolan swoops in and cleans up – I’d like Ian to have some sort of value… it’d be nice to get something back for him
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by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 4:27 PM MST up reply actions
yea
unless he changes his game and changes it a lot i don’t see that happening
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 4:31 PM MST up reply actions
I agree
The fact of the matter is he’s not a marquee 3b anymore… but if he hits .220 and plays plus defense, I can see someone picking him up as a “scrap pile” acquisition and we might reap some kind of scrap pile guy in return.
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by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 4:33 PM MST up reply actions
a bad of Doritos
and a six pack of Coors light
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 4:34 PM MST up reply actions
Make it
Boulder Chips, and a 12 pack of 90 Shilling
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by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 16, 2011 4:37 PM MST up reply actions
Trade him to Baltimore for a case of Natty-Bo and a couple orders of English's fried chicken
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 16, 2011 5:05 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
whoa guys
your getting a little too far ahead of yourselves. I originally asked for a 6 pack or Eazy Street but was shut down so a 6 pack of Coors had to sufice… the Doritos were just a gift
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right?
man that would be sweet
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 3:52 PM MST up reply actions
Can we talk about Roy Oswalt?
This idea is really growing on me, even with the potential price tag.
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Why on earth would we talk about a player that will never come to Denver? ;)
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you are so funny
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 17, 2011 7:23 AM MST up reply actions
I'd like it a lot more if I trusted his health.
Renck said he’s in line for 2 years, $30 million.
That’s quite a bit of risk to take.
last season was the first time he'd thrown less than 180 innings since 2003
there’s risk, sure, but he’d be a pretty decent pickup. I’d love to see him work with Alex White.
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what if
he works out with Giambi, Tulo, Fowler, and Arenado?!?!
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2 years 20-30 mil?
at age 34 entering into an immediate 1-3 role? Idk about that. I think Oswalt fits best with a team loaded with pitchers so he can pitch in the 4 or 5 spot. I think it could be a mistake
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 4:07 PM MST up reply actions
Totally agreed here
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To clarify...
I don’t think Oswalt will be a Rockie next year because of the price tag, but that’s the kind of arm needed
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 16, 2011 4:31 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
whats it matter if he is pitching 3 days later or 3 days before?
put him in the 4 spot then…he still has to pitch against the same hitters with the same ball
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 17, 2011 7:24 AM MST up reply actions
I think it could be awesome
also, if you think about it. Signing him pretty much forces us to trade Street and Wigginton doesn’t it? Addition by subtraction!!!
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crap
I didn’t realize he made 16 mill last season. I feel like unless that drops to like 12 mill, we can’t really afford him…
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he wants 2 years at 30 mil
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 4:18 PM MST up reply actions
daaaaaaaaaamn
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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a little pricey fr a 34 year old
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 4:19 PM MST up reply actions
That's not even what he wants.
Renck said on Twitter that Oswalt is “in line for” a 2 year, $30 million deal.
Of course, he also said that the Rockies could afford it.
But I certainly don’t want Oswalt to be our only offseason acquisition.
I'd love it if we entered this season
with Prado, Oswalt, and some new reliever, and lost Street, Wigginton, and Cook. I’d also look forward to reading how stupid all of these moves are for the Rockies on fangraphs…
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Me too.
Doubt it though. Oswalt will prove too expensive, but damn I wish we could get him.
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I definitely would not go higher than 9 mill on a 2 yr deal
I would go to possibly 11 if he was only for one year
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 16, 2011 4:28 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
then again, we paid Aaron Cook $10mil last season...
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something something franchise win leader.
Filling up your senses like a night in the forest since 1992.
by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 16, 2011 4:32 PM MST up reply actions
something something pitcher made too much money for what he brought to the club
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I don't think you need the something something.
Filling up your senses like a night in the forest since 1992.
by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 16, 2011 4:35 PM MST up reply actions
that
is horrific
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 4:33 PM MST up reply actions
Then no Oswalt for you
2/25 mil. Gimme
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if that happens, I would be a very happy man.
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Hey random question (I'm looking at you Mr. Stanwood)
but does anyone know how long we control a player’s rights after they’re drafted? Or in other words, I know when a player makes the ML, we control them for six years. But what’s the deal if they never make the majors?
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six years? seven? somewhere in there
Just thinking of Cole Garner, drafted in 2003 and was a MiLB FA after 2012
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 16, 2011 4:30 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
after 2010
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 16, 2011 4:31 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
aight, thanks!
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It depends on their age at draft/sign
Younger than 18 you get 7 MiLB years and older you get 6. I think two years before MiLB free agency is when Rule 5 draft stuff comes into play. I’m not 100% sure though.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 16, 2011 4:23 PM MST via mobile reply actions
He'd fit right in with possible acquisition Milton Bradley
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 16, 2011 4:31 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Tired of him?
Interesting
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 16, 2011 4:32 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
You see, Orlando slid head first into the wall in Miami last year, all downhill from there
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 16, 2011 4:37 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Twins minor league free agent Brandon Roberts just tweeted that he's signed a contract with the Rockies.
Roberts was drafted by Cincinnati but traded to Minnesota a year later for Juan Castro. He’s sort of a left hand version of Cole Garner.
Well, since we're trading one for Martin Prado....
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yeah, but then we'll have signed Grady Sizemore.
Not exactly the most reliable plate appearance guy.
this offseason blows
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 16, 2011 4:59 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
and it's only just begun...
/2011
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White and lace and promises.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 16, 2011 6:40 PM MST up reply actions
I figure whatever happens can't turn out any worse than last year's
Tulo and Cargo extensions notwithstanding.
it could
If he signs a randomly large contract to a bust. Or signs Milton Bradley
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 16, 2011 5:08 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Andrew Brown, Brandon Roberts, Giambi extended,
and we were squarely in the hunt for Jamey Carroll. This stove is burnin’ hot!
Yeah, I know. It’s still early. But I still don’t see a willingness to shake things up.
by Northsider1964 on Nov 16, 2011 8:53 PM MST up reply actions
Should the Rockies be as aggressive as Arizona?
The Snakes have spent $19 million on these guys, average age 35:
Henry Blanco………..C……. 40….. $1,250,000
Willie Bloomquist…SS….. 33….. $3,800,000
Aaron Hill……………..2B…… 29….. $11,000,000
John McDonald……SS…… 37….. $3,000,000
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Arizona's going through a bit of the old
“He was in the dogpile when we clinched, so write him a check” syndrome. If and when the Rockies win a division, that will be somewhat forgiveable.
I really don’t wring my hands about how cheap the Rockies are, because I think their payroll is within a reasonable range of where it should be. I just frankly think they overrate their existing players, based on factors that don’t win ballgames.
by Northsider1964 on Nov 16, 2011 10:11 PM MST up reply actions
Blanco and Hill make sense
but a combined almost 7mill on Bloomquist and McDonald seems a bit high – though if it’s over two years it’s really not too bad…
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But Hill's the only real payroll buster
Backup catchers cost what they cost. So if you don’t give Blanco $1 million+, you’ll give it to some other Sunday catch-and-throw guy. McDonald isn’t really worth $3 million, but he is a great glove. Bloomquist is a bit high, but again I think it’s more about him stepping up last year when they needed him, rather than what they think he’ll really produce in 2012.
by Northsider1964 on Nov 16, 2011 10:37 PM MST up reply actions
Taking the Giants route I see
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you must follow 200000 people
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 16, 2011 4:39 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
for reals
what made you follow him Rox Girl? or did you just see a #Rockies tweet by him?
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 4:40 PM MST up reply actions
ah
i was gonna say the only way you should be following that guy is if you know him personally
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by NastyNessy71 on Nov 16, 2011 4:42 PM MST up reply actions
makes sense
That was actually my first guess, with my second some vague sort of Cincinnati tie
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 16, 2011 4:43 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
No, Roberts was barely on my radar.
He was a much more intriguing prospect a few years ago, obviously, but I had pretty much forgotten about him.
Can we get him to change his last name to Phillips?
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by Junction Rox on Nov 16, 2011 9:33 PM MST up reply actions
JFK's Quote of the Day:
“It’s a pretty sure thing that the player’s bat is what speaks loudest when it’s contract time, but there are moments when the glove has the last word.” Source: Third Base is My Home (Brooks Robinson) ~Brooks Robinson
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ZOMG...HOLY CRAPOLY
rumour has it that Marlins are offering Pujols
a 9 year, $225 million contract.
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I knew about that 2 hours ago. Just never said anything. LOL
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Why not? It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they did that...
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I have no idea as to the veracity of this report
but since it’s not Alanna Rizzo……(joking)
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Is it enough?
$25mil per? Hm.. Idk
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 16, 2011 5:47 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Pshaw
Someone on Twitter just retweeted this tweet from Jon Heyman from 8 months ago today:
“Austin Jackson looks like a budding superstar to me. #betterthangranderson”
Ouch
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 16, 2011 5:42 PM MST via mobile reply actions
no one told jon about BABIP and K% i guess
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
Do they live in New York?
Oh, then Jon wouldn’t know them.
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