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TY WIGGINTON HAS BEEN TRADED TO THE PHILLIES FOR CASH OR A PTBNL
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Cash?
They paid us?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHA
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 5:11 PM MST reply actions 5 recs
HAHAHAHAHHA
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 5:12 PM MST up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 5:12 PM MST up reply actions
This is the greatest day ever!
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 5:12 PM MST up reply actions
I went to the bathroom to take a crap, and then when I came back I saw this news on Twitter. I feel like that is a totally appropriate juxtaposition of events.
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by Franchise26 on Nov 20, 2011 5:13 PM MST reply actions 6 recs
At least you stepped out for something important
I just went and watched my housemate play the new Zelda game for 1.5 hours
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 20, 2011 5:19 PM MST via mobile reply actions
hahahahahahhaah YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 20, 2011 5:19 PM MST reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd for joy.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 5:52 PM MST up reply actions
THIS IS GREEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A big number of days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
by Roxman4ever on Nov 20, 2011 11:47 PM MST up reply actions
ZOMG!!!!!
The Phillies!?? bahahahahaahah
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Actually, if they're smart....
… they’ll sign Alan Johnson and trade hkm back to us AS the player to be named later, superstar baseball commodity that he is.
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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 20, 2011 6:04 PM MST up reply actions
Amaro, you still dumb.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 20, 2011 5:28 PM MST reply actions
The Phillies are having probably the dumbest offseason ever
First Asslebon, now Wigginton. BAHAHA
Goodbye 2011, hello uncertainty about 2012...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 20, 2011 5:33 PM MST reply actions
wigginton isn't a bad player
If he is on the bench and being paid $2mil. He should easily be a positive in that role. He just wasn’t here at double the salary as a de facto starter.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 20, 2011 5:48 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah.
What happened to get Wigginton into the lineup as he was, well, was a disaster for us.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 5:51 PM MST up reply actions
What happened was Ian Stewart and Jose Lopez failing
and Carlos getting hurt induced the Wigginton outfield experience (glad that’s over with)
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True...
Everyone else not stepping up did kind of open a hole for him.
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Agreed ...
… it has become fashionable to pile on, but Wiggy in the proper role is an okay bench player … we just paid him too much, which led to raised expectations.
@BusterESPN: You’d have to think the acquistion of Ty Wigginton will end the Cuddyer/Phillies thing. He can help fill in at first, third, etc.
Not that I’m the biggest proponent of Cuddyer, but if the Rockies trade of Wigginton to the Phillies was a move to cool the Phils on Cuddyer so that the Rockies can sign him, I’m going to laugh really, really hard.
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Dan, don't you dare spend some of this freed payroll on a multi year deal for Cuddyer.
Don’t f-ing do it…..
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 20, 2011 5:35 PM MST up reply actions
yeah, that would totally ruin it
fingers remain crossed for signing beltran after the prado trade
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
SORRY 'BOUT YOUR BAD LUCK PHILLY!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Looks like that $20 I slipped DoD came in handy..
TY WIGGINTON HAS BEEN TRADED TO THE PHILLIES FOR CASH
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Best part of this deal is that Cash can’t ground into any rally-killing double plays.
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by Franchise26 on Nov 20, 2011 5:39 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
or hit a home run.....
effectively ruing our chances for a victory that day.
by CarloWitzki on Nov 20, 2011 5:41 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
hahahahahaha
The Phillies will be paying Ty Wiggington and Jonathan Papelbon a combined $13M in 2012.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 20, 2011 5:42 PM MST reply actions
This reminds me of Bill Hicks "cure for aids" rant
only replace “cure for aids” with “no more wigginton”
2011 - not even light can escape
Dominic Brown gonna be the PTBNL, y'all.
/not really, but watch him be.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 20, 2011 5:49 PM MST reply actions
I was thinking Worley...
#keepdreaming
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 20, 2011 5:57 PM MST reply actions
The way the Marlins are going after players
this could be an interesting division next year
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Not to burst everybody's bubble
But, as it stood, Wiggington was our best 3rd basemen. Not that he is/was/will be great, but at least could have been passable at the hot corner. The other options there are even less appealing.
He wasn't passable this year. Why would he be passable next year?
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 6:06 PM MST up reply actions
Hell. We brought in Kevin Kouzmanoff to replace him, along with Jordan Pacheco.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 6:06 PM MST up reply actions
oWAR? fWAR?
rWAR and dWAR are negative.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 6:13 PM MST up reply actions
His rWAR is negative.
I’d tend to said with that.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 6:19 PM MST up reply actions
-1.1
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/wiggity01.shtml
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 6:25 PM MST up reply actions
I think he was talking about "I'd tend to said with that"
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 6:34 PM MST up reply actions
Viva Pacheco!
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Happy Dance!!
No more rally-killing double plays! No more epic fail with runners on base! No more certain-doom solo-shot home runs! No more derping at 3B!
And that the Phillies took the albatross, and actually paid money for him, is just the icing on the cake.
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Kind of.
He really was horrible with RISP though. If that is what he’s going to give them, they are going to be upset, especially since he isn’t going to compensate with his glove.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 6:12 PM MST up reply actions
You're right.
But he should fit in there pretty well as that RH bat off the bench.
I do wonder about how he’ll perform in Philly though. Lots more pressure there. And if you look at those RISP numbers (a.k.a. higher pressure situations) he sucks.
We’ll see. But I think he’ll be fine, if not pretty damn good.
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 20, 2011 6:14 PM MST up reply actions
Thome and Wiggy together off the bench should be good.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 6:15 PM MST up reply actions
He'll carry a much smaller burden...
and $2 mil. is not a steep price for a versatile bench role player.
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It's anyway, not anyways.
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I think
I would rather have Wiggington at this price vs Cuddyer at whatever obscene price he will get.
Seems to be what Phillies fans are thinking as well.
I agree, though. As long as Wiggy isn’t as crappy with RISP as he was in 2011 (which he won’t be)
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 20, 2011 6:19 PM MST up reply actions
His historical RISP numbers aren’t much better.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 6:20 PM MST up reply actions
I really do wonder how he'll perform in a higher pressured atmosphere...
I guess we’ll have to see
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 20, 2011 6:22 PM MST up reply actions
It's funny.
I had a late night discussion a month ago with RIRF in which I defended Wigginton. It turned into an argument over defensive metrics, but he convinced me that Wigginton really is only good at one thing: hitting with the bases empty. And he’s not all that good at that.
Not a bad bench guy though.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 6:29 PM MST up reply actions
When the dog bites
When the bee stings
When I’m feeling sad
I simply remember we traded Wiggy
And then I don’t feel soooo bad!
Goodbye 2011, hello uncertainty about 2012...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 20, 2011 6:11 PM MST reply actions 6 recs
Also, this all but guarantees Pacheco the utility role starting next year.
I can roll with that
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25-Man:
C: Iannetta/Rosario
1B: Helton/Giambi
2B: ?
SS: Tulo
3B: ?/Stewart
MI: ?
CI: Pacheco
LF: ?
CF: Fowler
RF: Cargo
OF: Blackmon
That’s 14 guys. There’s an extra guy on there. Stewart or Pacheco must go. I’m going to guess Stewart.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 6:18 PM MST up reply actions
.....?
Iannetta/Backup C
Helton/Giambi
2B
SS
3B: Stewart (most likely)
LF: ?
CF: Fowler
RF: CarGo
Herrera/Pacheco utility guys. That’s only 12 guys..
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 20, 2011 6:21 PM MST up reply actions
Whoops, forgot Blackmon.
13 guys.
Works out pretty well, IMO
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 20, 2011 6:24 PM MST up reply actions
If Stewie starts.
yes.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 6:24 PM MST up reply actions
Stewart/Pacheco platoon works fine as well.
If Stew proves he still can’t hit LHP
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 20, 2011 6:25 PM MST up reply actions
I am hoping that EYJr can learn to play 2nd Base.
And Arenado at 3b if he’s ready.
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I am in that camp too.
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 20, 2011 9:18 PM MST up reply actions
Or Stewie is the starter.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 6:22 PM MST up reply actions
MI: Herrera/Nelson
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 20, 2011 6:22 PM MST up reply actions
I'm not sure why that ? at 3B
And Pacheco is separated.
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 20, 2011 6:22 PM MST up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
Funny how
Certain guys become a symbol for all that goes wrong with a team. Not sad to see the guy go, not at all, but so far we’ve added Wood and lost Wiggy and there can’t be any doubt we’re worse as a result. Whatever.
Let’s see some real action now.
by Teekalong on Nov 20, 2011 6:23 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Yeah, Wiggy wasn't the biggest problem on the team.
He just became the overwhelming focus for fans. I’m glad he’s gone just so I don’t have to worry about the urge to defend him anymore.
by holly96 on Nov 20, 2011 6:25 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
now i'll keep drinking because i'm thrilled
instead of because i’m bored
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one.
As has been mentioned, this is good news for Pacheco.
Saw this from Keith Law:
As a utility guy and part-time catcher, yes. RT @potateto: @keithlaw will Jordan Pacheco succeed in the bigs?
The only reason I like this deal is this ...
Wiggy’s not a half bad player. Just had an awful, unlucky, miserable year last year, like nearly all of us.
And Pacheco’s much better than Klaw thinks. Pending an acquisition (Wilson Betemit, anyone? Or maybe Youk?) he’s our starting 3B coming out of camp. And you know what, I’m happy about that. The guy is going to open a LOT of eyes this year.
by BostonTransplant on Nov 20, 2011 7:53 PM MST up reply actions
I agree with the first half, disagree with the second half
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Methinks ...
… you overrate Pacheco … I’d stick with KLaw’s analysis oin that one … and even that is optomistic in my eyes.
I'm sorry, but I'm still on the team
for Prado and Cuddyer. I don’t think Cuddyer is going to make as much as rumored, and I think this shows it.
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Why does this show it?
The kind of ridiculous deal Cuddyer’s going to get is one of those “OMG, we need to make a splash, we’re a bad team who needs to overpay, who’s the biggest name who will come play for us?” contracts. See Werth, Jayson. He’s going to get big big bucks.
by BostonTransplant on Nov 20, 2011 7:56 PM MST up reply actions
Cuddyer's numbers have very little in common with Werth.
There is absolutely no reason to assume that he is going to get “big bucks,” whatever that is. Werth was coming off of a season in which he was voted 8th in MVP voting. Cuddyer has never been anything but a reliable role-player.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 9:32 PM MST up reply actions
This could get ugly
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 20, 2011 7:08 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
good thing our best prospect is a 3b
and we have no expectations for 2012!!
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Speak for yourself!
I have expectations for 2012. No reason at all we can’t compete with a little bit of luck. Lord knows we’re due for it.
by BostonTransplant on Nov 20, 2011 7:58 PM MST up reply actions
Sorry but I don't think Anrdew would help us that much in 2012
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JFK
hiyooooooooooo
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What’s “with” all the “quotation marks”?
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 7:24 PM MST up reply actions
Some of them may not be Rockies for much longer.
Anddddddd they all suck
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 20, 2011 7:29 PM MST up reply actions
a couple of them aren't rockies anymore
And a couple of them should never play 3B due to defense.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 20, 2011 7:34 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
not on opening day
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 20, 2011 7:31 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
depends on ST
At least it should, if the idea is to put the best players on the field.
Some people don’t think that’s important. Others do, including me.
I also don't want to hurt his career path
When he gets the spot, I want him to never let it go. And if super 2 still exists, it’d be worth it to keep the best player a year longer than two months longer. He is a good contact hitter, but big league pitchers are better at letting hitters get themselves out. He isn’t perfectly polished yet. We will see what spring training does, but I’d rather not be premature with him, as this roster isn’t built to contend in 2012 anyway. Additionally, we may get a better read on Wood, Stewart and/or Nelson earlier in the season.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 20, 2011 7:38 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 7:40 PM MST up reply actions
You all are putting WAY too much faith in a 20 year old kid
There’s a very real chance he will show up in Tulsa to start the season next year and be very average. These things happen. Brandon Belt, people. BB may turn out to be a good ML player, but he was even more hyped than Arenado in MiLB. We shouldn’t put more weight on one good — OK, fantastic — season than we would on one really bad one (like, say, Pacheco’s in AAA, or Friedrich).
by BostonTransplant on Nov 20, 2011 8:02 PM MST up reply actions
Friedrich has had two bad seasons now
but your point is accurate otherwise.
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Hey just for fun ... Anyone care to see Brandon Wood's MiLB lines?
AA (2006, aged 21): 276/355/552/907
AAA (2008, aged 23): 296/375/595/970
His A numbers (aged 20, just like Arenado) were even better, well over 1.000 OPS, but they’re hard to figure out because he bounced between levels and didn’t stay long there.
I’m just sayin’. Keep your panties on.
by BostonTransplant on Nov 20, 2011 8:12 PM MST up reply actions
The reason people are excited about Arenado isn't just numbers
Wood, like Stewart, mashed subpar fastballs in the minors but can’t fight in an at bat or handle breaking pitches. Arenado has a very good contact tool and has struck out less than 10% of his ABs. That’s 2-2.5 times less than Wood/Stewart. It’s not just the success, its HOW the success is reached. His approach is one that translates to higher levels pretty well.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 20, 2011 8:15 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
yea
they have totally different k rates which makes me (us?) all the more optimistic for Arenado – but you’re right, we really don’t know for sure….
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belt is a poor example
Other than a couple weeks to start the season, He never played consistently. He raked in AAA though. They pulled the plug on him too early, mostly because Huff was so awful in the outfield. But yes, you’re absolutely right that there is no guarantee he will succeed right away at the MLB level, let alone AA. The AFL is the only level in which he didn’t struggle initially.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 20, 2011 8:12 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
"Career path" of one player is more important than team winning in 2012?
Just the attitude the Rockies need to get rid of.
Glad to have some extra cash and a roster spot to spend on someone else...
…but I’m a little nervous, too. Wigginton was overpaid but wasn’t a horrible player other than the RISP part. Of course that’s a pretty important thing to suck at, but clutch or not, I don’t like the idea of paying for half of what could end up being a useful player for the already-spoiled Phillies. We’ll see, I guess.
Just a small town kid who thinks Coors Field on a sunny summer Saturday night is the best place to be on this or any other plane of existence. When a late-inning Todd Helton go-ahead homerun is added to this scenario, my brain melts.
Really. He was terrible last year.
His numbers away from Coors in 2011: .216/.278/.399
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 9:47 PM MST up reply actions
He also shouldn't have been starting
so the Phillies could be getting more use from him off the bench.
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he'll be their starting 1B
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
That's actually possible if Howard doesn't recover in time
Ouch
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Sure.
But I’m not sure this whole “he’s not really that bad” and “he is only bad at RISP” chorus is very accurate. It can’t all be chalked up to that fact that he shouldn’t have been a starter.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 10:00 PM MST up reply actions
I agree
but his “damage” could have been limited if one of our other “options” had panned out. They didn’t and we got stuck with the best of the worst.
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Can somebody photoshop a Phillies uniform onto the creepy Wiggy picture
and give it to the Phillies fans as a present?
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you mean..... this one??
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
or do you mean this one?
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
I think this one:
http://i54.tinypic.com/2rh92ea.jpg
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Those beady eyes
Stare into your soul and torment you.
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Get well soon Juan.
i almost feel sorry for halladay
then i remember that he plays for philly
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
.
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by Thnikkaman on Nov 20, 2011 9:46 PM MST up reply actions 6 recs
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Well done
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You didn't already?
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 9:53 PM MST up reply actions
his sneer becomes more and more sinister
as you look from picture to picture
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
HAHAHAHAHAA YESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!
BEST NIGHT OF THIS OFFSEASON EVAR.
I just ran up and down ,my hall screaming and whooping looking for someone to tell. I found my baseball friends. Then I told my RA. I told my out-of-state friends. I’m so :D!! I’m pretty sure everyone thinks knows I’m crazy.
WOO HOO!! I’m just so happy…I….
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 20, 2011 9:46 PM MST via mobile reply actions
His dWAR is blown ridiculously
out of whack by SSS because of his bouncing around from position to position. But I’m sure he’s in the bottom 20%.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 9:49 PM MST up reply actions
That's not very good
Who are below him?
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Kevin Millar
Cesar Izturis
Jermaine Dye
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 20, 2011 9:57 PM MST up reply actions
I thought Dye was a little better than that for some reason
The other two I understand
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dye also loses 10 wins to his really, really bad fielding
you remember that he can hit, which he could, 112 wRC+
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
he was the only outfielder worse than Hawpe defensively there during his tenure here
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 20, 2011 10:26 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Then that might explain it a little bit
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That....that is a boatload of terrible
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 20, 2011 10:00 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Interesting
You guys really did hate Wiggy. I think he will be a nice spell to Ryan Howard every 5 games so I don’t think Philly made off bad at all. Any new news on the Prado deal? Is it even being discussed still?
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Wiggy was an albatross
Rather than being THAT terrible (I don’t quite buy the dreadfulness with RISP). His moving on is a huge psychological lift for the fans, that’s all. In a vacuum I would have been alright with him in a 25th-man role next season.
"I don't quite by the dreadfulness with RISP".......wut? He was absolute garbage w/ RISP last year:
20 for 123 w/RISP and OPS .496
1 for 16 with the bases loaded.
He was just about as bad as you would find in MLB.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 21, 2011 7:22 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
The thought being that he'd likely bounce back, BABIP and all
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 21, 2011 8:49 AM MST up reply actions
Exactly
Even if he is the chokiest choker who ever choked you wouldn’t expect his RISP OPS to be that low. It’s near certain that at least some of that underperformance was just down to variance, and I’m not comfortable judging him harshly negatively on the strength of 100 ABs.
I don't know
Wigginton has a MAJOR problem with RISP and it’s not just this year (although it was by far the worst)
Last five seasons…
Wigginton’s OPS with the bases empty_______Wigginton’s OPS with RISP
2007: .903_________________________________ .688
2008: .959_________________________________.698
2009: .745_________________________________.692
2010: .792_________________________________.606
2011: .852_________________________________.495
Total: .846_________________________________.644
That’s 1347 PA’s with the bases empty and and 449 with RISP and a 200 point OPS plunge. While the gap probably won’t be as large as it was in 2011, I would still expect Wigginton’s RISP numbers to be atrocious.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 21, 2011 10:05 AM MST up reply actions
he'd still be bad, no question
just not as apocalyptically bad as he was.
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 21, 2011 11:42 AM MST up reply actions
Howard is going to miss the first half of the season or something
so Wigginton will be spelling him seven days a week
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
and if Ibanez doesn't come back and Polanco is still injury plauged, he will see some time at 3B and in the OF.
hahahaha
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 21, 2011 7:23 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
well, Wiggy and Mayberry and Thome
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 21, 2011 5:57 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
The player to be named later will be the Phillies mailing Ty back after they realized that their GM was drunk dialing other GMs again.
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You know what's sad...
This is probably the happiest PR thread in months.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 21, 2011 8:21 AM MST reply actions
The happiest thread in 2011 will be on December 31, when we know the year is OVER.
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I'd wager this one will still top it.
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 21, 2011 8:50 AM MST up reply actions
Unless DOD works some magic at the winter GM meetings
you listening Daniel???
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Signing Gonzalez might still be better
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Signing Tulo should top all of them.
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I would agree
but we are discussing 2011. Troy signed 11/30/2010
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$5 says domonic brown ends up being the PTBNL
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I'd crap myself if it was
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