Monday Rockpile: Ed Wade Fired, Is Wandy Still A Reality?
by Andrew Martin on Nov 28, 2011 7:30 AM MST
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Yesterday it was all but announced that the Astros are expected to dismiss general manager Ed Wade. Wade's kind of been the laughing stock of NL GMs over the past several years - since he was hired at the end of 2007, actually.
The Rockies have a decent history of trading with the Astros. In fact, the Astros are the team that Pedro Astacio went to after his tenure with the Rockies. More recently, the Rockies made that one trade where Jason Jennings was sent to Houston in exchange for Jason Hirsh, Willy Taveras, and Jason Hirsh. Neither of these trades involved Ed Wade, but there's a history of the Rockies and Astros trading, anyhow.
As for Wade, none of his moves were ever that earth-shattering. Mostly they were headscratching and led most of us to wonder what the Astros' end goal in everything was. I mean, they acquired Miguel Tejada to play SS after it seemed blatantly obvious that it was time for Tejada to shift over to 3B. Granted, the talent he gave up ended up mostly not panning out. But still, Miguel Tejada was the piece that could push a team that was merely a shadow of its former glory back to the upper echelon of the NL.
It kind of has me wondering, though. Ed Wade was the GM who presided over the Philadelphia Phillies, and more importantly, their farm that's blossomed into the NL powerhouse they are today. Ed Wade is also the GM who so desperately tried to bring the Astros back to the "World Series or Bust" team that the mid 2000s embodied.
So while none of those Astros teams past 2005 made it anywhere and while none of those player acquisitions really shook the baseball world, at least they tried. Which then has me wondering... what's worse? Is it worse to make a bunch of stupid and/or questionable trades and signings in an effort to push your team over the top, or to constantly sit pat and tends to hover around .500 with the occasional postseason run? Is it better to have a GM who tries to make your team better, or one that puts together one good team and then attempts to sit on that one winning team, regardless of actual results, and hope that they'll take you back to glory?
Well, I don't know, but it keeps me up at night.
In case you were still on the "Yonder Alonso for Future 1B" campaign trail, don't get your hopes much higher than they are right now. In fact, lower them. Word on the internets is that the Reds want front line starting pitching for Alonso, and that's something the Rockies just won't have.
Speaking of starting pitching, regardless of where it is in terms of front or middle of the rotation, Wandy Rodriguez has an increasing amount of suitors. Take a look at the market that's developing for Mark Buerhle; teams need starting pitching, and they need it now. While whoever makes the decisions for Houston might not have TOO long of a leash this offseason, something tells me that we won't be landing Rodriguez for Christian Friedrich and Charlie Blackmon. The Astros have a very decent trade chip, and there's a market for them. I mean, hell, the Yankees just resigned Freddy Garcia; there's going to be a bigger market for Rodriguez than we were hoping.
That all said, the Rockies shouldn't sit pat, and they shouldn't be scared away from acquiring pitching depth. I mean, hell, Jeff Francis posted a higher fWAR than everybody on the Rockies' pitching staff in 2011. But it's going to be harder to find quality guys, and I hate to say it, but you're going to have to overpay for them, and likely make a deal that you'll regret down the line. I can only hope that the Rockies proceed carefully in their dealings this offseason. It has the makings of the offseason that sets a franchise back several years.
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This will be the LAST time I see that Pic of Enigmatic Eddie! Can’t tell you how many times it was used by the Team and the Houston Post over the past Four Years…
And yes, Wandy is still in play for the Rox, and any other MLB Team. Judas Jim Crane will slash the Houston Payroll to next to nothing in trying to re-coup that $610 he blew on the Astros in Bad Loans, before he defaults on them in a couple of years.
Granted, with Thad Levine probably being the next Astros General Manager, the Rox may have to give up a decent Prospect in return (Wheeler/Rosario), but that will basically be it. Wandy isn’t a great Pitcher, but he gets the job done.
forgive me for not being enamored with Alonso
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 7:48 AM MST via mobile reply actions
I'd love him on our team
if we were in the AL.
He seems like a born DH. There are plenty of AL teams who need a good one. Looks like the Reds would find a way to trade him to the league where he belongs.
He plays a serviceable first base, from what I gather.
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A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
I would take a year of bad defense for him
for a handmade successor for Helton at first.
Your 2012 Colorado Rockies:freshly exorcised from Ty Wigginton
Remember when Pat Gillick was known as " stand Pat "?
He was generally frustrating to the fans of the teams he GM’d for because he did not make the “obvious” moves that most fans saw he could make. He did not make many moves but usually made shrewed ones. Some how I think he mentored O’Dowd; omitting large portions of the shrewed part.
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
Is it me or is hope fading on off season transactions?
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 28, 2011 8:57 AM MST up reply actions
/checks calendar
Nope, still November.
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Meaning all the discards in the scrap heap have yet to be sorted.
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
even though absolutely no one outside of Papelbon has signed...
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So, still a chance for Pujols?
Filling up your senses like a night in the forest since 1992.
by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 28, 2011 9:29 AM MST up reply actions
Clearly you are forgetting several premium players,
such as:
1) Clint Barmes
2) Rod Barajas
3) Jamey Carroll
4) Willie Bloomquist
5) Aaron Hill
you could build a really, really crappy infield out of that group of players
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C Barajas
1B Hill
2B Carroll
SS Barmes
3B Bloomquist
Obviously. :D
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Nah
This could totally be the Rockies….
Todd and Tulo are injured, Bloomquist is at third because well, we already tried everyone else, Iannetta is benched on account of Jim Tracy doesn’t like him, and Carroll was gonna bat second so of course, he must play 2B.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 28, 2011 9:42 AM MST up reply actions
Giambi COULD play 1B, mind you.
But what if that means he doesn’t come to bat in the 9th inning?
Better save him on the bench and start Hill!
You know what's sad
Willie Bloomquist’s baseball reference page has seven times as many facebook likes as Jhoulys Chacin’s.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 28, 2011 10:02 AM MST up reply actions
it IS hard to spell
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 10:12 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Facebook likes have the same value as monopoly dollars.
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Get well soon Juan.
Disagree
You can at least play an entertaining board game with monopoly money.
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That all depends on your defenition of Entertaining Board game.
I think Unexploaded Cow works well with monopoly money.
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Get well soon Juan.
I always hated Monopoly
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 12:19 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
andrew fisher not posting from mobile?
did something happen to his phone?
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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I'm in office this week!
YAY
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 12:43 PM MST up reply actions
this is funny
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crappy hitters, sure
but you’d have a ludicrous UZR
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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I think fading hope is a bit premature.
I would wait until the Winter Meetings to start worrying about our activity or lack thereof.
/trade Nolan Arenado for Ryan Howard
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 9:16 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
EWWWWWW; IIIIKKKKK !!!!!!!!!!
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
the Pirates have signed just one free agent to a $10mil or more contract in total
Clint Barmes
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 9:05 AM MST via mobile reply actions
well, the first since Steve Buechele in 1991 with a contract that large.
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I wonder if his pop up rate will look any better in Pirates black?
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
meant to add "in the last two decades"
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"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 9:14 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
mother. of. god.
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
/it is a new beginning, right?
by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 28, 2011 10:20 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
the Matt Morris trade was a lot worse
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Matt Morris and Estaban Loaiza: Pitchers voted most likely to have no one believe that they threw a 6+ WAR season
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I believe both did
Both were awesome for a short while.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 12:19 PM MST up reply actions
If anyone wants to follow our baseball nerdiness,
the PRMLB season began yesterday. You can follow along be looking at the Reports at http://ootp.petrocw.com
The Rockies began the season 4-0 with Tulo hitting .706 in those games.
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in my rockies season sim
He is hitting .189 at the ASB with a .280 obp And 3 HR. And Wigginton is hitting .220. So, no pain there.
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"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 9:22 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
This is just like the real 2011 season..
I wonder what they’ll look like in May.
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We're almost to the point where the offseason becomes a little more interesting
Next week we have the Winter Meetings and the deadline for players who declared free agency to accept arbitration offers from their former club. By this time next Monday there should be some juicy rumors/signing possibilities floating around.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 28, 2011 9:29 AM MST reply actions
Has Jim Tracy been hanging out with Tim Tebow?
“This is a special team, there’s no question about that. It’s special when you have a bunch of guys that when things aren’t going good, [they] get closer instead of pulling apart.”
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 28, 2011 9:55 AM MST reply actions
Sounds Like Elway HAS!
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
Hey, so what to people think
as a potential high risk/high reward guy of going after Edinson Volquez?
His strikeout rate and groundball rate are still each pretty strong, but his walks are a mess. Given that he’s about a year removed from TJ surgery, I think that the high walk rate is normal and could rebound with more innings (it was pretty decent @ 3 per 9 in AAA last season). He also threw 190 innings between AAA and the ML last season.
We’d have him for 2 seasons at arbitration prices. He seems like a decent guy to give us innings, could be pretty awesome with some further time after TJ surgery and some Apodaca magic, and with his k rate and gb rates he’s a potential strong fit at Coors.
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My mind is getting confusled between real life and OOTP
But in principle I quite like this idea. Too expensive though, no?
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I’m looking forward to the day when RMN yells at us for discussing OOTP trades in the RP.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 28, 2011 11:36 AM MST up reply actions
I wonder what it would take to acquire Wandy..
from a team like the Rockies, or say the Phillies.
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in terms of money, he’s not very expensive at all. In terms of trade package? We really have no idea. The Reds want some certainty for their rotation given Cueto, Arroyo, Volquez, Leake, and Wood each have their own issues.
I’m not really sure we have ideal pieces to help them out in this area. If Hammel had posted another strong season I’d say maybe they’d be interested in him and some other stuff for Volquez but I don’t see anyone we have that can really help. They do have a vacancy at closer however…
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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weird, i was just
reading this on fangraphs
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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yea I read that too and it reminded me that I brought up Volquez briefly a few weeks back. He may not make sense for us since he’s volatile and we may want to keep rotation space open to let all these guys have time to develop.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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I wonder how long
this fanpost took to make.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 28, 2011 12:08 PM MST reply actions
it killed my browser
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The Cardinals are making a good run to get on my "Teams I hate" list.
Avalance 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
I'm actually quite impressed
I have no idea how to make those video boxes – And then to fomulate that many.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 28, 2011 12:29 PM MST up reply actions
Oh they've been on my hate list for some time now :)
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I have no idea
but I bet you could make one bigger in half the time featuring an assload of user comments throughout.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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I thought Russ was already
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 28, 2011 12:44 PM MST up reply actions
Dude should have just made his own blog for that!
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by SDcat09 on Nov 28, 2011 2:04 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
d-dee is awesome she gets some amazing shots at the games
those pictures are all her work
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Please, please, please, please, please, please, please
no.
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Nov 28, 2011 12:32 PM MST up reply actions
I’d want one sweet return for Iannetta. I’m thinking Rosario still needs a good amount of time (and evenhas a higher strikeout rate in the minors than Iannetta had if memory serves me).
Generally, I think trading Iannetta is somewhat of a mistake since he was a 3 WAR catcher last season and I think he can reproduce last seasons’ performance.
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if we move iannetta
that wouldn’t be a bad idea if the FO is not confident in rosario, but i think he’ll get overpaid to catch somewhere important
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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Glad Rosenthal specified "major league" sources
Without that, I might have thought his source was Casey Weathers
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 12:50 PM MST up reply actions
burrrrrrrrrn
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
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only if it means Iannetta and a low A pitcher
for Bourjos, then Wheeler and Smith for Prado leaving Hernandez and Rosario as our C battery. Keep Ian Stewart until we are sure he is dead, then that leaves us a 2013-14 lineup of Bourjos, Fowler, Cargo, Tulo, Todd/Replacement, Arenado, Prado, Rosario. that is a great OF D lineup with 360 wOBA potential at every position(optimistic at C)
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i would fall over laughing
if we got bourjos for iannetta and a low A pitcher
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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Iannetta+Matzek
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"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 12:53 PM MST up reply actions
i'd like to give matzek a little more time ideally
but if i was o’dowd and dipoto called me up and offered that, i’d have to think long and hard about how i answered
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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that might actually work
I would hate to lose Matzek but I am sure they have scouted him more than most teams
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
we are talking about a team that traded for Vernon Wells
and gave up valuable pieces
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
different GM
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
PRMLB Arizona Diamondbacks GM
true but any GM that plans on running Mathis out there 100 times a year
will soon be a former GM
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
that's scioscia's decision more than dipoto's
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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Well...that's obviously not his plan, since this thread is about him trying to get Iannetta or Hanigan
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 1:05 PM MST up reply actions
exactly why I was saying that while Dipoto is not Reagins
he is shopping for what we have, and one of his areas of depth is CF while Bourjos is valued highly in the SABR community nothing in his .271 BA 12 HR or 22SB scream superstar to a traditional baseball enthusiast. He strikes me as Mike Cameron 2.0 a very valuable player but easy to undervalue.
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 28, 2011 1:29 PM MST up reply actions
Bourjos has more trade value than that
He had a higher WAR than Carlos Gonzalez last year.
"Some guy on the net thinks I suck, and he should know - he's got his own blog." - Nick Hornby
"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 12:53 PM MST up reply actions
true but it depends on how they view him
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
does Bourjos have your tacos ‘right here’ though?
These are the important distinctions that drive player value Andrew.
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no, but he did run over from angel stadium and catch the ball that cargo thought would get us those tacos
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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I like the idea, use Iannetta's value to net us a piece and replace him with Hernandez
Not sure if the Angels match up with us well. I’d want a piece that helps up contend in 2013-2014, and Kendrick + Izturis both hit free agency after 2012. They wouldn’t give us Aybar or Bourjos, Hunter and Wells are too expensive, and Callaspo would be nice….except we got Arenado almost definitely starting by midseason. Based off his prior experience, I wouldn’t want him anywhere near second.
Your 2012 Colorado Rockies:freshly exorcised from Ty Wigginton
he is a career 3.5 UZR 2B away and a -15UZR at home all from one season in KC
no saying if he is actually that bad
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I have seriously never heard of this guy until today..../smh
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2003 All-Star
League average bat for 13 seasons and pretty cheap
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 2:18 PM MST up reply actions
One of the all-time great fantasy baseball catchers
But defensively? Oooof…
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Nov 28, 2011 2:20 PM MST up reply actions
I succeeded many years by snagging him late
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 2:24 PM MST up reply actions
If the price is right...
Angels have some intriguing pieces but I’d be surprised if Iannetta was enough to get one of them. And I don’t want to trade Iannetta unless we get back someone we can stick in our everyday lineup.
dont know if this has been discussed but
wtf-EY2 getting removed from Venezuela league for tardiness…
This is kinda embarrassing…especially since i’m in the EY2 for 2b camp.
Come on guy…really??
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Because it’s painted as “Eric Young Jr sure likes to sleep in!” and we don’t know all the circumstances.
Although if he was dismissed, I’m pretty sure he’d have deserved it.
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 28, 2011 1:29 PM MST up reply actions
his dad probably wasn't there to get all his stuff and cut his steak for him
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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If it leaks that he was late because he had been drinking the night before I’m gonna be pretty pissed he was released. Mickey Mantle didn’t play a sober game in his life bygummit and I won’t stand to see EY2 subject to some puritan nonsense!!!
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troy tulowtizki has been the most searched player on fangraphs for about a week
does that seem a little odd to anyone else? it’s not like there’s any rumors going around about him, nor did he win any of the big awards. i dunno, maybe i’m just weird
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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Muzia and RIRF again.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 28, 2011 1:04 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
Just checked the OOTP site for the first time
Very impressive and comprehensive. And now I see my rotation totally owned their first time through….except Neftali Feliz, who got killed. Hmm…
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 1:08 PM MST up reply actions
Seems I overlooked his 13 stamina
How dumb is that? (Both the overlooking, and the rating)
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"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 1:09 PM MST up reply actions
That happened to me in a separate Rockies sim when I turned Frankie Mo back into a starter.
Also, why is Nicasio listed as the AAA closer by default in OOTP 11?
Not sure, but he's on my top 3 in minor league system depth chart in CF and 3B as well
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 1:13 PM MST up reply actions
Can you send him down to the minors for a bit to stretch him out? I don’t know how static stuff like stamina is…
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This is my first time doing OOTP
I’d sure like to know
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 1:27 PM MST up reply actions
based on what I've read
it seems like it may be possible. You might be able to send him down for 2-4 starts and each time raise his pitch count. Whether it raises his stamina enough though idk. You could probably try it with a random minor league reliever first…
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True
Maybe after the first season sim I can force it in March
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 1:40 PM MST up reply actions
I might
just start a separate sim with Texas and try it out there rather than wait a whole season but whatevss
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Good idea
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 2:19 PM MST up reply actions
I have Aroldis in the minors, probably for most of the year.
Make sure to click on action —> in game strategy —> force role as Starting Pitcher
Otherwise, the game will keep pitching him out of the bullpen
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Well, he started
Dominated for four innings, got shelled in the fifth.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 1:58 PM MST up reply actions
They loaded the bases in the first.
So, not quite domination.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 28, 2011 2:01 PM MST up reply actions
Shh
You’re not supposed to look that close
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 2:16 PM MST up reply actions
The game does it all really. I just have to set it up and host it. My bandwidth and disk space are holding up pretty well, so I’ll keep the site going with all of the information. The next thing you guys need to learn is how to write news articles. But that’s almost as nerdy as watching the game replays.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 28, 2011 2:01 PM MST up reply actions
Go on...
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It's all here.
http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/documentation/ootp11/index.php?page=write_edit_news
You just email the article to me. I post it into the game. Then the article appears on website and in everyone’s game just like the game-generated ones. Some leagues (like this one: http://pebabaseball.com/ ) get really into it.
I’ve never actually written an article before.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 28, 2011 2:24 PM MST up reply actions
Could I write an article about how Dave Bush is having a career turnaround and is 10-0
even if he’s ranked last in ERA, just to get some sap to buy him off me?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 2:27 PM MST up reply actions
That is amazing
Also, I want a team to play in “Jurassic Park”.
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According to Wikipedia,
One almost did. (5th paragraph under construction)
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 28, 2011 2:51 PM MST up reply actions
That would have been sooooooo awesome :(
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That would have led to geologists cringing every time the place was mentioned.
“It should be CRETACEOUS Park!!!!!!!!”
"Are they called the Rockies because they rock?" - 7 y.o.
What a Mesozoic that would have been...
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by Junction Rox on Nov 28, 2011 3:17 PM MST up reply actions
O__O
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 2:17 PM MST up reply actions
Can the news articles have comment threads?
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by Junction Rox on Nov 28, 2011 2:41 PM MST up reply actions
No.
That’d only happen if I made a separate site for them, which I won’t be doing.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 28, 2011 2:49 PM MST up reply actions
This seriously went green?
Apparently I need to post more about RIRF. ;)
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 28, 2011 9:16 PM MST up reply actions
Wow,
And by a ton too (at least over third). The only thing I can think of is that we’re coming up on the one year anniversary of his huge extension.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 28, 2011 1:22 PM MST up reply actions
The Padres ought to sign Broxton
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Jerry Crasnick tweeted
that the Rox looked at Broxton as they debate whether to trade Street. I find that interesting.
I find thatinterestingterrifying.
fify…
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by Junction Rox on Nov 28, 2011 2:22 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
we should sign him if only to prevent him from going somewhere else
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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Or we could look at how he pitched for the Doggers the last couple years
and hope he signs with one of our rivals…
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by Junction Rox on Nov 28, 2011 3:57 PM MST up reply actions
Broxton would have more purple pinstripes per square inch than any player in team history
Yes, even you, Brian Bohannon.
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 28, 2011 4:38 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Give Smith a chance
Sorry about ruining the cliche, but Fangraphs article that was linked on Twitter by Matt Klaassen.
However, I do see that linked in the sidebar under the Fangraphs section.
He's never been a problem
That article proves his value and why we’re trying to use him to get an infielder, because he’s easily replaceable with Blackmon/Wheeler
Your 2012 Colorado Rockies:freshly exorcised from Ty Wigginton
I figure that...
I guess I meant for fans of other teams to give Smith a chance. I’m all for trying to move him or Iannetta to make the team better. But if they stick around, that’s fine too.
MLBTR says the Pirates are interested in Cook
do they even have a GM or is Hurdle just attempting to rebuild the Rockies over there?
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It will be so amazing if he gets eight figures
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 2:24 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
he very well could replace clint barmes as their highest paid player
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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The only two players in the last two decades to sign for $10+m with the Pirates
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 3:58 PM MST up reply actions
things that are hilarious
and also things that are really sad
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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looks like eyj isn't the only rockie to be fired in the winter leagues this year
Don Baylor, manager of the Bravos, got canned today
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 4:34 PM MST via mobile reply actions
not that Baylor is a Rockie now of course
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 4:35 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
for what?
showing up too early to games?
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his team being horribad
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 4:40 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
THATS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU CUT EY2, BRAVOS
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Tracy
would find someone even worse to start playing all over the diamond. We’ll end up with Yuniesky Betancourt
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though it could also have been for supporting EY
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 6:29 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Oh. Em. Gee.
Per MLBTR:
“Andrew McCutchen is not untouchable, but he’s about as close as it gets. The Pirates will at least listen to offers for the center fielder, though they would have to be blown away to move him, according to ESPN.com’s Keith Law.”
DO WANT.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 28, 2011 5:25 PM MST via mobile reply actions
OMG. Cutch LF, Dex CF, CarGo RF???
/drools
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Me too.
But he’s going to cost a pretty penny and then some. And then some more. So it’s not happening.
That said, an update:
“According to Dejan Kovacevic of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, the Pirates have not entertained offers for Andrew McCutchen and have no plans to do so.
The Pirates have a policy to “listen” on all players, but they have no intention to actually move him. McCutchen isn’t even arbitration-eligible until next winter, so while the Pirates remain interested in working out a contract extension, they still have time to get a deal done. "
I will add...
If I am TB I am calling them up and offering them James Shields and BJ Upton for Mccutchen and Hanrahan and seeing where things go from there.
They'd probably decline
only because they’re not that close to contending and Shields and Upton won’t be around long. But they probably will think about it.
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they ask for pomeranz, Arenado, Bettis, Wheeler
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 6:31 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
lets tell them we’ll give them ubaldo, but we gotta get mccutchen first. then they can come for ubal and we’ll be all like ‘siiiiiiiike’
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EY2 responds to reports about him being fired
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/eebc53
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I knew EY2 wouldn't diss him team for no reason.
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 28, 2011 7:16 PM MST up reply actions
JFK's Quote of the Day:
“Probably the most dramatic change in pitching I’ve observed in my years in baseball has been the disappearance of the knockdown or brushback pitch. This is why record numbers of home runs are flying out of ballparks, why earned run averages are soaring, and why there are so few twenty game winners in the majors.” ~Frank Robinson
"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." ~Tallulah Bankhead
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~Greg, age 8
JFK
seriously, give me my broxton
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Seriously, do. not. want.
I’m not sure why we would want to tie up resources and a roster spot in a guy that’s been having a massive career meltdown the last two years. The -.6 WAR last year doesn’t scream SIGN ME to me… He’s been getting hit at a .300 clip since the middle of 2010. Maybe on a very cheap deal I’d take a shot on him for bullpen filler in spring training and see how he does. But everything I’ve seen on him for a long time says he’s done…
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by Junction Rox on Nov 28, 2011 8:14 PM MST up reply actions
depends on velocity.
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 28, 2011 10:59 PM MST up reply actions
I look forward to the purple mondays:
http://colorado.rockies.mlb.com/col/fan_forum/yearofthefan.jsp?partnerId=aw-7723090540874647566-1070
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
Great!
I have tons of Monday tickets.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 28, 2011 9:17 PM MST up reply actions
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