Wednesday Rockpile: Will the GM Meetings Bring Deals for Rockies?
by Jeff Aberle on Nov 30, 2011 8:25 AM MST
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PrintSo, the annual GM Meetings are next week in Dallas, and word on the street says that the Rockies are ready to deal. By this, Thomas Harding means that the Rockies are more likely to fill their holes in the rotation and in the field by trade rather than through free agency. Here are the pieces being bandied about by Colorado, in order of trade likelihood:
I've been advocating a Street trade pretty much ever since he signed that 3 year, $22.5 million deal. Very few relievers are going to produce that kind of value, especially over a 3 year span. As such, I'm still a big fan of trading him. Colorado has asked about the Orioles' Jeremy Guthrie and the Mets' Mike Pelfrey in a Street trade, and either would be fine with me as a return. Potential replacements in the bullpen could include former Rockie LaTroy Hawkins.
Little known fact -- Street has an evil younger brother named Juston according to Fangraphs, who is a pitcher who was in the A's system as well.
Given Colorado's interest in free agent catcher Ramon Hernandez, it has been made apparent that incumbent starting catcher Chris Iannetta is on the trading block according to the Denver Post. Given Jim Tracy's obvious disdain for Iannetta's skill set (high strikeouts, high power, high walks, low average), Hernandez (low strikeouts, low walks, medium power, medium average) is the player that our manager would like to have. Either way, if the Rockies insist on changing catchers before the gap to Wilin Rosario is bridged, Hernandez is a much better option (due to his consistent offensive production) than, say, Rod Barajas or Yorvit Torrealba.
Iannetta has two years of team control left for the Rockies, but only one year for acquiring teams (his $5 million team option for 2013 will be voided if he is traded), so he's worth more to the Rockies than he would be to another squad. This limits his trade value somewhat, but with the current dearth of quality MLB catchers, Colorado still has a hot commodity in Iannetta, which is why they reportedly have asked for the LA Angels' Tyler Chatwood. Chatwood is a guy whose ceiling is a #3/4, but whose floor is rotation depth (let's say Alex White lite). Here's Minor League Ball's John Sickels on Chatwood. Do we want to give up a 3 WAR catcher for that kind of production?
In terms of economics, Colorado can probably expect 3-6 WAR from Iannetta while he's under contract for the next two years, dependent on playing time. For that, they'll be paying $8.55 million, which is a pretty good deal. Of course, a Wilin Rosario/Ramon Hernandez duo could probably replace quite a bit of that production for a similar price. For that reason alone, Chatwood makes sense as a guy with at least 5 years of team control remaining -- though I am worried by his high walk rate. I say the Rockies should pull the trigger on this deal (if possible), but only if a catcher in the Hernandez mold is going to be signed as a replacement.
3. Ian Stewart
Much has been written about Ian Stewart, including the reasons why I think he should be our Opening Day starter. He'll make around $2 million in arbitration, he's entering his physical prime, and he is (hopefully) due for some serious regression. However, it seems more and more likely that Colorado is just going to look for a AA or AAA pitcher in return for Stewart and let another team deal with him. I'm not a fan of giving Jordan Pacheco or Chris Nelson the 3B job, so I hope that Dan O'Dowd is able to acquire a more competent option if he does trade Stewart.
4. Seth Smith
Smith is the trade piece that should garner the largest return, as he still has three years of team control remaining, plus the expectation of a league average or better bat. Matt Klaassen of Fangraphs writes about the crisitunity of Smith's platoon splits and why the Rockies would be better off holding on to him. In short, Smith has an above average batting line, regardless of how he's done against lefties. In addition, his performance against southpaws is likely to regress higher to the mean -- especially if he's given more playing time against them, Jim Tracy. In any case, the argument is made to pair Smith with a Lefty Killing Outfielder (TM).
The fact that Smith could be a bargain-priced outfield bat is why he's been linked to a trade for Atlanta's Martin Prado, who would fill Colorado's 2nd base hole ably. Two weeks ago I wrote about the potential of a Prado/Smith-Tim Wheeler deal. Since that time, my primary free agent outfield target, Grady Sizemore, has been signed, leaving Andruw Jones and Jonny Gomes as the best Lefty Killing Outfielder (TM) options.
I'd still be in favor of a Smith/Wheeler trade to land Prado, but it would be a risky move given that a lot would depend on Charlie Blackmon breaking out at the MLB level while relying on lesser talents like Jones or Gomes get more plate appearances.
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Colorado's Top 10 Prospects have been posted at Baseball America. Drew Pomeranz tops their list, with the biggest surprise being Kent Matthes ranked as 8th.
One potential option for the Lefty Killing Outfielder (TM) position, former Rockie Matt Murton, is returning to Japan, where he set the NPB's hits record in 2010.
ESPN's Jayson Stark has a very informative Q&A with player's union head Michael Weiner to discuss the recent CBA. Reading between the lines a little bit, it seems clear to me that the player's union as well as many baseball people were pretty opposed to the draft compensation changes as well as the thought that the new rules would improve competitive balance. However, that was priority number one for the commissioner and the players didn't care as much about it, so those rules were implemented. There's a lot more good stuff in there -- I'd really recommend reading it.
Finally, Matt Swartz at Fangraphs has a very fair and thoughtful take on the new CBA, particularly the draft compensation rules.
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Excellent, thanks. Will add to the Rockpile
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Kent Matthes #8
Only slight mention of Tyler Matzek
No mention of Rosell Herrera
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 8:42 AM MST up reply actions
but the first real mention of Rutledge on a major publication's list
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Yeah, no Matzek in the top 10 was strange to me.
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I think they may have completely given up on him
Not only is he absent from the top 10, he’s also not in any of Colorado’s porjected rotation spot by 2015, leaving me to think they’ve already pegged him as a bust.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 30, 2011 12:57 PM MST up reply actions
Hopefully Matthes can recover fully from his hand surgery
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 8:47 AM MST up reply actions
Parker
2010 1st round pick Parker can’t crack our starting lineup in 2015?
he will probably find some sort of eligibility in football again
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 12:44 PM MST up reply actions
(more shorties around college football than the Modesto Nuts)
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 12:44 PM MST up reply actions
except shorties do like nuts, could be a toss up
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 12:49 PM MST up reply actions
it's a weird list
Parker is a much better candidate for 1B in 2015 than Matthes (who I find an odd inclusion on this particular list)
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Parker
Glad it wasn’t me, I’m really high on Parker.
me too
if we have to wait until 2015 to see him in the majors, sounds like yet another failed first-rounder for o’dowd’s team
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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Next season is a big one in Parker's development
Whether it’s positive ot negative, I think most of us will have formed a much stronger opinion of that selection by this time next year.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 30, 2011 12:59 PM MST up reply actions
Will Rafael Ortega be playing AA this year?
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 8:53 AM MST up reply actions
he was promoted for the Modesto postseason this year
and he’ll be there this season as well.
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That’s just nuts.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 8:57 AM MST up reply actions 3 recs
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 8:58 AM MST up reply actions
Best Curveball: Nelson Gonzalez
Never heard of him until today. Good stats at Tri City last year
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 9:01 AM MST up reply actions
Drew Pomeranz: RHP
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 30, 2011 9:43 AM MST up reply actions
Wow. You're right.
Egregious error.
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no, it's accurate.
He’s #74 on BA as a RHP, #6 as a LHP
He hangs out with Pat Venditte.
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 30, 2011 9:47 AM MST up reply actions
seriously though, for a name like Pomeranz, that's a pretty sizable oversight
Like, if they screwed up Rutledge or someone, sure, nobody’s heard of him.
Then again, I also wrote about Huston Street being a LHP, so…
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 30, 2011 9:50 AM MST up reply actions
I just realized eight of those guys are on twitter
Only Arenado and Anderson are not, to my knowledge. Though Anderson might be and I haven’t found it yet.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 11:25 AM MST up reply actions
Rockies Scout
2 of the top 10 ten were signed by the scout whom the Rockies fired.
by goodniteirene on Dec 1, 2011 7:41 AM MST up reply actions
Source?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2011 9:00 AM MST up reply actions
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 9:04 AM MST up reply actions
I'll allow it.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 9:16 AM MST up reply actions
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Nov 30, 2011 11:44 AM MST up reply actions
Colorado can probably expect 3-6 WAR from Iannetta while he’s under contract for the next two years
His four full seasons have given us 8.9 fWAR, an average of 2.225 WAR/season. We definitely cannot expect 3-6 WAR over the next two.
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Not each season, total
That’s 1.5-3 WAR per season, good sir
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ah, I misread you.
Carry on then.
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I hope Ian Stewart is due for some progression
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I don't think he can regress anymore
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 8:38 AM MST up reply actions
Regression can be a positive thing too, so long as it's toward the mean
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Like returning to a former state you mean?
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 8:42 AM MST up reply actions
precisely
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 30, 2011 9:44 AM MST up reply actions
I think that's what he meant
I couldn’t think of a good antonym either.
Regression is correct, but it inadvertently implies “getting worse”
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 30, 2011 9:44 AM MST up reply actions
It almost has to imply he gets better here
I mean, how’s he gonna get worse? Hit -4 HRs?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 30, 2011 9:52 AM MST up reply actions
Errors > Strikeouts = plate appearances > Suspensions > Mikulik tantrums > home runs
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 9:55 AM MST up reply actions
This looks an awful lot like math to me….
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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 30, 2011 10:03 AM MST up reply actions
I don't buy it
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 30, 2011 10:05 AM MST up reply actions
Needs a ven diagram.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Nov 30, 2011 10:19 AM MST up reply actions
jury's still out on math
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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Does anybody remember how high Hector Gomez was on our Purp ranks at one time?
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As high as 5, I believe
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What happened?
His bat never develop?
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 8:41 AM MST up reply actions
Injuries happened.
So many injuries
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Is he probably completely out of the picture now?
Should I just stop talking about him?
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 8:45 AM MST up reply actions
You probably won't regret that decision.
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Sounds good…sad story
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 8:48 AM MST up reply actions
Somehow has to overcome both those that were ahead of him in development...
… (Herrera, Nelson) and those that were once behind him (Field) to a utility shot. Because of his inujury history, he gets a bonus option year this season, so his maximum clock to suddenly break out is basically one year from this Spring Training 2013.
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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 30, 2011 9:49 AM MST up reply actions
Not gonna write him off
hope he can pull it together
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 9:51 AM MST up reply actions
He'll be out of options in 2013 and can't be sent to the minors at all
He’d have to have some sort of monster season in 2012 to make it likely we’d keep him in MLB in 2013
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 9:52 AM MST up reply actions
He'll need:
1. A FULL healthy year.
2. Opportunity to play ahead of crowded middle infield in the system at either AAA or AA.
3. The depth ahead of him to fall flat at MLB.
4. A career season in terms of performance.
5. The ability to do the above four things better than Chris Nelson, who managed to do all four of these things two years ago after a similar early career and still barely register a ping on the usefulness radar.
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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 30, 2011 9:57 AM MST up reply actions
So you're saying there's a chance.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2011 10:03 AM MST up reply actions
Yes. But less than Brett Tanos
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 10:05 AM MST up reply actions
His bat was bad when healthy in 2011 (mostly OBP)
But it might not have been “healthy.” After years and years of injuries, it’s silly to think he can be truly healthy again. He was a BA top 100 prospect once upon a time
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 8:43 AM MST up reply actions
Once upon a time,
Hector Gomez was ranked #4 on the PuRPs list,
But that was 50 moons and a few Purple row generations ago.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 30, 2011 9:39 AM MST up reply actions
or in RIRF terms
“in page 641 of purplerow.txt”
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 30, 2011 9:45 AM MST up reply actions
Looking at the top ten from that list makes me have a major sad.
There are exactly two out of the top ten that have really produced value at the big league level at all…
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by SurfaceThought on Nov 30, 2011 10:35 AM MST up reply actions
Complements of the 05-07 drafts minus Tulo
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 30, 2011 11:00 AM MST up reply actions
Interesting how the more successful players are almost evenly distributed
All the way down to Pacheco. Props to RG for seeing the potential in Everth Cabrera.
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I think it's funny only two comments in that whole thread were about prospects
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 4:20 PM MST up reply actions
I've never heard of about 1/3 of the "others receiving votes" players...
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Nov 30, 2011 4:22 PM MST up reply actions
Four eventual MLB players were named on only one ballot each,
Daley, Pacheco, Billings, and Alan Johnson.
Roxhead was the ballot with Johnson, a new user who registered under the name “rockieswatch” was the only ballot with Pacheco (so it could have been a family member or just a big Lobos fan at that point,) and a user named rockin randy was the prophet that saw value in both Billings and Daley. I’m curious who that person is now.
And he still has the best infield arm
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Short highlights from the BA top ten behind the paywall (some of this we've talked about already anyway)
1 – Pomeranz – Needs to improve command and change-up, could be in OD rotation, profiles as future #2
2 – Arenado – Expect 2nd half promotion, eventual #3 hitter, should stick at 3rd base
3 – Bettis – Exceptional fastball/slider, an easy 98mph, but lack of slower pitch and height makes bullpen role still possible. Quick rising closer or #3 starter
4 – Rosario – Sits on fastballs and looks to pull to much, vulnerable to breaking pitches, impatient, but elite power/arm. Should get significant MLB time in 2012, AAA stint or not
5 – Wheeler – Can get pull happy and drops his head, making him streaky. Legit power. Somewhere between 20/20 guy and platoon player. Would play RF, not CF.
6 – Story – Potential five tool guy with apparent projection occurring on all five. Poss 20HR guy. Enough bat for 2B/3B, capable of jump to Asheville at age 19 in April.
7 – Anderson – Has five pitches, throws strikes, future #3 starter ceiling. Threw one BP session in instructs, shut down from pelvic soreness. 2014 ETA
8 – Matthes – 2011 surge not just from long-awaited health. Swing apparently retooled from college-metal-bat swing that limited contact. Solid speed, great arm. AA will prove lot.
9 – Parker – Was apparently tired in 2nd half, when he hit .300/.393/.535. Long swing, great power, hasn’t hit breaking balls with consistency.
10 – Rutledge – Weak arm, inability to field to right would likely push him to 2B, Tulo or no. May get time there in AA in 2012. Solid, simple swing, good hand/eye coordination.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 9:05 AM MST reply actions
Anderson 2014 ETA? I thought we drafted him b/c he was gonna be ready quick?
Bettis can talk to Oswalt about height
not exactly the best descriptions for our #4 and #5
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 9:09 AM MST up reply actions
Not playing at all in 2011 hurt Anderson
He’ll have a season in A-ball, will probably appear in 2013 in MLB if things go well, but likely not fulltime gig til 2014.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 9:12 AM MST up reply actions
Interesting that they don't love Rutledge's fielding when that was supposed to be his biggest asset coming out of college.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 30, 2011 9:53 AM MST up reply actions
His arm strength, at least, was questioned a shortstop when drafted
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 9:57 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah, he doesn't have a very strong arm
but his glove was very solid. I’m not worried about him at 2B, not in the least.
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I've never read anything but good things about his range though
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 30, 2011 10:01 AM MST up reply actions
Has Rutledge's ceiling changed
since the latter half of this past season? Seems like he was hitting the ball with more consistent power.
I wish I could have seen him play that second half
I spent quite a bit of time looking at his splits this offseason, and it’s pretty remarkable.
Look at his July/Aug/Sept splits at the bottom of the page.
He was essentially swinging at everything, and absolutely crushing the ball no matter what. It’s bizarre and I need some scouting info to shed light on what happened.
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From the BA list
He has good balance, and improving his load and weight shift in the second half enabled him to center more balls and unlock more of his power.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 10:48 AM MST up reply actions
that doesn’t really explain how he was able to swing at so many balls outside the zone and still crush them. Part of it was luck, sure, but I want to know how much of that is a repeatable skill.
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I'm going to guess quite a bit
His K% and IFFB% both plummeted starting in July and his GB% also dropped slightly. Meanwhile, his LD% and OFB% skyrocketed. These numbers combined with swinging at more balls outside the zone and still making more contact scream of a guy who found something in his swing and now can recognize a pitch he likes (even if it is out of the zone) and drive it with authority.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 30, 2011 10:59 AM MST up reply actions
possible
especially combined with his awful numbers in June. He could have worked on his swing, getting comfortable in July.
Or he could have been really, really lucky.
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For a swing this dramatic, I'm guessing it was probably a combination of both
Although I’d bank that a least a large piece of it was a revamped swing with those dramatic changes in his batted ball numbers.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 30, 2011 11:16 AM MST up reply actions
oh gosh.
If Bettis ends up as a closer, I will be peed.
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 30, 2011 3:10 PM MST up reply actions
It's been a possibility since Day 1
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 3:13 PM MST up reply actions
I'd say it actually was a probability at first
This year he moved towards becoming a starter big time but hasn’t quite eliminated the possibility of ending up a closer.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 30, 2011 6:01 PM MST up reply actions
No offense Jeff,
But I liked the Rockpile one year ago today better.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 30, 2011 9:06 AM MST reply actions
It makes me sad to see the Adjusted Offseason Outlook section and see O'Dowd actually "filled" all three holes
• Finding a versatile right-handed bat — a younger, more versatile version of Melvin Mora, who held the job in 2010. (Ty Wigginton)
• Establishing a catcher to complement Chris Iannetta, who O’Dowd said will finally have a chance to grasp the starting role. (Jose Morales)
• Adding a proven reliever to the bullpen - and it doesn’t matter if he’s right or left-handed. (Matt Lindstrom)
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 9:10 AM MST up reply actions
I used to be pretty funny
and he “sacrificed” with Party in the USA
good lord, I didn’t sign up for ten more years of this
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That was right around when I started lurking on the row
I was looking for a place that had good information on the Tulo and Cargo contract negotiations and somehow stumbled upon this place.
Even though that might have just been the high point as far as the Rockies are concerned, thanks for the great year!
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by SurfaceThought on Nov 30, 2011 10:39 AM MST up reply actions
agreed
Those were good times.
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Nov 30, 2011 11:21 AM MST up reply actions
Little known fact — Street has an evil younger brother named Juston according to Fangraphs, who is a pitcher who was in the A’s system as well.
Even lesser known fact, the middle child is a girl named Iuston Street who plays beer league softball in Glendale.
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I know you're messing around
but if anyone would really like to know, there are four brothers – Huston, Juston & Jordan (twins), and Hanson – Huston’s the only one currently in professional sports.
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by purpleJerseygirl on Nov 30, 2011 9:25 AM MST up reply actions
I was hoping for names like:
Baker Street
Wallace Street
Edward Zachary Street
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 9:31 AM MST up reply actions
It took me a minute
but their parents definitely would have gotten an “A” for creativity on the last one :)
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by purpleJerseygirl on Nov 30, 2011 9:34 AM MST up reply actions
I thought they were named like Midland...
or Corpus Christi….(?).
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by prettyinpurple on Nov 30, 2011 11:25 AM MST up reply actions
"he is.... due for some serious regression"
Cripes, how much more can Fuzzhead REGRESS???
scroll up
regression doesn’t mean “does worse” it means “returns to mean”
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 30, 2011 9:46 AM MST up reply actions
Didn't you read yesterday, Andrew?
The jury’s still out on math.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 30, 2011 9:53 AM MST up reply actions
Right. Who needs math?
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Nov 30, 2011 10:14 AM MST up reply actions
Jimmy Buffett
oh wait
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 30, 2011 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
Heh. That's right. He has a song called 'Math Sucks'.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Nov 30, 2011 10:58 AM MST up reply actions
Well, unfortunately, it doesn't really mean one or the other.
Its just one of those words that has different technical and vernacular meanings.
Like in regular life when you say “I have a theory”, in technical fields you would say “I have a hypothesis”. Does it mean the former use is incorrect? Many scientists say so but in reality the prior usage is by far the most common.
In this particular situation though, regress actually does have two meanings. In fact the meaning of regression that is “To go back, to move backward” existed before the other meaning of regress, which was only developed after Regression Analysis. If people want to use this meaning of regress and not cause confusion, I would suggest specifically saying “regress to the mean”
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by SurfaceThought on Nov 30, 2011 10:46 AM MST up reply actions
This is a fantastic spreadsheet
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 10:03 AM MST reply actions
For a moment,
I thought I was looking at this:
http://petrocw.com/prmlb/reports/teams/team_39_player_salary_report.html
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 10:06 AM MST up reply actions
I thought that as well
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 30, 2011 10:06 AM MST up reply actions
Reality is becoming blurry.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 10:07 AM MST up reply actions
This needs to be updated now
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 10:07 AM MST reply actions 6 recs
I'm sleepy.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 10:07 AM MST up reply actions
I inadvertantly IM people at work
“zzzz” all the time.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 30, 2011 10:09 AM MST up reply actions
I inadvertently work at work sometimes.
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by Muzia on Nov 30, 2011 10:11 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
And by that I mean...
when I work at work it’s always… advertantly.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 30, 2011 10:22 AM MST up reply actions
I z'd right past it...
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Nov 30, 2011 3:54 PM MST up reply actions
agreed on all counts.
And I got more than 7 last night…
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Nov 30, 2011 11:26 AM MST up reply actions
It's WEEI, so it might be total crap.
Nevertheless, the idea is funny:
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The new collective bargaining agreement calls for a competitive balance draft pick lottery beginning in 2013, and MLB.com’s Jonathan Mayo has details. 13 teams will be eligible for the first lottery based on their market size and revenue: the Diamondbacks, Orioles, Indians, Royals, Athletics, Pirates, Padres, Rays, Reds, Rockies, Marlins, Brewers, and Cardinals. The lottery gives each of these teams the chance to win one of six extra picks in the 2013 draft, which will come after the compensation picks for free agents.
Interesting.
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The Cards?
Really? Small market my ass.
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by SurfaceThought on Nov 30, 2011 10:50 AM MST up reply actions
Yep.
Consistently top 3 in TV ratings.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 10:52 AM MST up reply actions
Wait, so...
you’re agreeing with me right?
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by SurfaceThought on Nov 30, 2011 10:55 AM MST up reply actions
Yes.
St. Louis seems odd. They’re typically in the top half of the league in revenue despite being a smaller market.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 10:58 AM MST up reply actions
A lot of legacy fans
Also, I am unsure how they officially decide what the TV market is, but looking at the Blackout map it appears that St. Louis has a very small area that is dedicated only to the Cards. However I am willing to wager that the vast majority of people in Missouri (until you get really far west) are Cards fans first and the same goes for Illinois once you get much farther south than Chicagoland.
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by SurfaceThought on Nov 30, 2011 11:04 AM MST up reply actions
Despite the geographic size,
they have a very good TV deal because their ratings are very high as a percentage of total households in the market.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 11:07 AM MST up reply actions
They have a dedicated fan base no doubt. Are the Merch Revenue stats readily available somewhere? I imagine they have to be top three in the NL after the Cubs and perhaps one of the California Teams…
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by SurfaceThought on Nov 30, 2011 11:11 AM MST up reply actions
This, basically...
Before there was the Rays and the Marlins, before Atlanta’s relocation and the Astros and Rangers expansion, the Cards were the only team near “the South.”
Washington D.C. had a run of teams that haven’t stuck, and there’s Cincinnati that’s not really too far off from St. Louis in this respect, but if you look from Texas east to the Atlantic, there’s a huge swath of land that was inhabited by Cardinals fans, historically. They still carry that following, to a lesser degree, especially in Tennessee, Kentucky, etc.
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by cthabeerman on Nov 30, 2011 11:37 AM MST up reply actions
They were who I rooted for pre 93
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Add big portions of Tennessee in specific and the south in general
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Wouldn’t the Twins be a better choice for that slot?
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by SurfaceThought on Nov 30, 2011 10:52 AM MST up reply actions
If it is based on revenue, it is hard to say. The Twins generated a lot of revenue from the new stadium.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
Looking at the list, I’d think that the Blue Jays should be in there over the Cards. I suppose that they are out due to market size, but their revenue is consistently pretty low.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 11:02 AM MST up reply actions
Market size negates any Toronto argument.
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by cthabeerman on Nov 30, 2011 11:37 AM MST up reply actions
I was wondering if they'd get on there
They’re 7th smallest market according to size on this list
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 11:06 AM MST up reply actions
Yep.
It must be some mix of market size and revenue that equals “Whomever the hell we want.”
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 11:11 AM MST up reply actions
That's not a very good list IMHO
The introduction does a good job disclaiming that there is no one single way to quantify ratings, then they go on to use the single simplest and most misleading way of giving the population of the CSMA that the team plays in. Although it often does get messy, There is a huge difference between a smaller big city like Denver out here in the west, where people drive from Ft Collins, Greeley, Colorado Springs, Pueblo, and even GJ and Wyoming to come see games (None of which are in the MSMA). In Baltimore, if you drive 100 miles away, you would either be in Philadelphia and DC)
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by SurfaceThought on Nov 30, 2011 11:22 AM MST up reply actions
If you drive 100 miles south from Baltimore, you’d be in Richmond
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 11:33 AM MST up reply actions
Indeed, which only goes to prove the point.
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by SurfaceThought on Nov 30, 2011 4:54 PM MST up reply actions
As I suggested below.
I think that they are probably using an MLB territorial map that is neither based on CSMAa nor TV markets.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 11:34 AM MST up reply actions
Also interesting that they have Baltimore and not the Nats
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by SurfaceThought on Nov 30, 2011 10:51 AM MST up reply actions
Different TV markets.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 10:53 AM MST up reply actions
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 30, 2011 11:06 AM MST up reply actions
I think this is because
in the deal to move the Expos to Washington, MASN got the rights to broadcast both teams. But the TV market is not the same when is comes to ratings, etc. Baltimore has its own separate set of tv stations, cable systems, etc. and is considered a different media market despite the proximity.
If you have an antenna, and live in the right part of Baltimore you can get both sets of stations.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 11:10 AM MST up reply actions
As determined by the MLB territorial map?
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 11:20 AM MST up reply actions
No, by the census bureau of MSA's (not the CSA)
This would mean that Oakland, as part of the San Francisco MSA is on the list for being in the bottom ten in revenue, not for being at the bottom of market size. The same could be true of Arizona and San Diego while St. Louis would be the opposite (on there for size, not revenue) and the Rockies might also be in that camp given their attendance, but we’re probably close to the bottom ten in revenue too.
To break it down, if that list’s correct,
Bottom 10 in size and revenue:
Kansas City
Cleveland
Cincinnati
Pittsburgh
Tampa Bay
Bottom 10 in revenue, but not size:
Oakland
Miami
Arizona
San Diego
Bottom 10 in size but not revenue:
St. Louis (#21 MLB MSA according to the 2010 census)
Baltimore
Unclear (one of these two will be in that last category, one will be in the first):
Milwaukee
Colorado
Both Milwaukee and Colorado would qualify by size regardless of revenue.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 12:02 PM MST up reply actions
I know, but one of them has to qualify in both, that's why it's unclear.
San Diego might also be considered both to make the math right, but I only count 19 MSA’s ahead of them.
D'oh, I figured out my mistake...
There are only 19 U.S. MLB MSA’s ahead of San Diego, but also the one Canadian MSA I was forgetting to count. The Padres would have to be bottom 10 in both size and revenue. And again, either the Brewers or the Rockies are also in that category (probably Colorado based on payroll) while the other is not.
I suppose that I'm reading it differently.
The Bottom 10 in Market Size are in:
Milwaukee
Kansas City
Cleveland
Cincinnati
Pittsburgh
Denver
Baltimore
Tampa
St. Louis
San Diego
The Bottom 10 in Revenue are in:
Florida
San Diego
Pittsburgh
Kansas City
Oakland
Tampa
Cleveland
Baltimore
Cincinnati
Arizona
10 + 3 = 13.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 12:33 PM MST up reply actions
It doesn't matter is they crossover.
There could conceivably be 20 teams in the lottery some year, but that is highly improbable.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 12:34 PM MST up reply actions
It's interesting because, with the new stadium in Miami,
the Marlins might jump out of the revenue bottom 10. However, major changes based on winning and losing will be slight because media contracts are negotiated for periods of several years and would have a big effect on the revenue.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 12:40 PM MST up reply actions
That's part of the reason why figuring out the non-crossover teams really is interesting to me...
It opens the curtain a bit on MLB’s revenue situation and possibly the Rockies too. There are good reasons why each of Baltimore (MASN, higher average ticket cost,) Milwaukee (highest payroll) and Colorado (high attendance) could be above the top ten in revenue, but figuring out which could be revealing.
err... that was supposed to say "above the bottom ten"
Only needed the complete opposite word. Pretty close, otherwise, though.
And at the same time (perhapes even along the same lines)
It’s interesting to see what, if anything the Marlins, A’s, and D’Backs are doing wrong.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 30, 2011 12:53 PM MST up reply actions
You know what this means
The entire Row has to plan a trip to a Rockies/D’Backs series in Arizona purchasing juuuusssttt enough tickets to bump them up one spot in the revenue department and out of contention for this extra draft pick.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 30, 2011 12:40 PM MST up reply actions
I'd rather they have the pick than the revenue, frankly...
Revenue means that they can pay for better players right now, the pick will always be a bit of a lottery ticket years away.
I'm thinking that it's only going to take a tiny piece of revenue to bump them up one spot though
I’d imagine that revenue of teams in that area of the board are separated by very small amounts.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 30, 2011 12:49 PM MST up reply actions
Not if their payroll and attendance are any indication
They will get quite a bump from going to the playoffs and the winning record, but they still averaged 10,000 fewer people per game than the Rockies, and clocked in at $35,000,000 less in payroll. If they go by the fairly standard 50% revenue to payroll ratio, that means we have to get them an additional $70,000,000 somehow.
I'm guessing they are still in the bottom 10 though
Toronto is not listed here and that’s putting a fly in this ointment. They would be in the top 20 if they were a U.S. market.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 30, 2011 12:34 PM MST up reply actions
Up I'm too late
Nevermind.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 30, 2011 12:35 PM MST up reply actions
Toronto miss out due to their market size
Despite being bottom 10 in revenue (between Tampa and Cleveland on your list), and bottom five in terms of franchise value.
Useful link for such things.
They check three of five possible categories for a poor team, but the GTA market and 500,000 average TV viewers take them out of contention.
Another thing that this draft shows is where Forbes is getting it wrong.
They’ve obviously underestimated Toronto’s revenue (although that could be due to a strengthening Canadian Dollar) and overestimated either Colorado or Milwaukee or Baltimore’s.
isn't rogers the most wealthy ownership org in MLB?
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It's mainly down to a bit of clever fudging by Rogers
In that the Jays have 0 TV revenue. Being owned by the broadcaster they automatically have the TV rights and pay nothing for them.
Now that I've read the article, this makes sense:
The 10 smallest-market teams and the 10 lowest-revenue teams will be placed in the lottery to have a chance to win one of six extra picks in 2013. This doesn’t mean there will be 20 teams in the lottery. There will be plenty of crossover, with the expectation of having 13 teams involved.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 11:55 AM MST up reply actions
Link
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20111130&content_id=26059392&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 11:57 AM MST up reply actions
Former Rockies amonst those on latest HOF ballot :) per Renck
TroyRenck Troy Renck, Rockies
Larry Walker still on ballot…Didn’t get much support last year.
1 minute ago
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TroyRenck Troy Renck, Rockies
Vinny Castilla and Eric Young also on Hall of Fame ballot. … Cool honor.
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Ex-Rockie…RT @AdamRubinESPN: Ex-Met Jeromy Burnitz making first appearance on Hall of Fame ballot.
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Nice.
We’re growing up :)
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Maybe. At least we are getting lip service now...It's a start
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I did a "Who?"
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All he did was hit 37 HR and 110 RBI for us for just $1.25million in 2004
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 12:15 PM MST up reply actions
yeah, no kidding
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 12:16 PM MST up reply actions
but not the one year he was an All Star?
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 12:17 PM MST up reply actions
Well thats a horse of a different color
put him in the hall of fame
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 12:17 PM MST up reply actions
No.
Put him in two hall of fames.
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He was part of the 3 way trade
In which we got Benny Agbayani
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 12:21 PM MST up reply actions
Well sorry I was a bit disconnected from the Rockies in the early 2000's. My bad
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Todd Helton
is still sad at Cracker Barrel
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 30, 2011 12:39 PM MST up reply actions
At Cracker Barrel maybe, Sad...probably not
2001 27 Colorado Rockies $4,950,000
2002 28 Colorado Rockies $5,000,000
2003 29 Colorado Rockies $10,600,000
2004 30 Colorado Rockies $11,600,000
2005 31 Colorado Rockies $12,600,000
2006 32 Colorado Rockies $16,600,000
2007 33 Colorado Rockies $16,600,000
2008 34 Colorado Rockies $16,600,000
2009 35 Colorado Rockies $16,600,000
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 12:41 PM MST up reply actions
Money doesn't matter to Todd
All he wants is to go hunting and to win Cat’s undying love.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 30, 2011 12:43 PM MST up reply actions
I thought he wanted CCR's undying love ?
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Oh that too
But now that he knows you weren’t watching his early career, he’s sad about that as well.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 30, 2011 12:45 PM MST up reply actions
My Mom watched for the both of us. Does that count?
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Okay, now Todd's just at Cracker Barrel :-)
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 30, 2011 12:48 PM MST up reply actions
Wait, if Cracker Barrel is out of gravy
that would be like KFC being out of chicken. UNPOSSIBLE
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I was literally at KFC and they were actually out of chicken.
I never laughed so hard in my life.
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I was once at a Dairy Queen that was out of ice cream
And a Subway that was out of bread
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 1:56 PM MST up reply actions
I once had no soul.
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She wasn't a blonde.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 1:57 PM MST up reply actions
Ergo, not you. Plus, I never dated a girl who was really into baseball. Of course, you attested earlier to not being as into baseball before.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 1:58 PM MST up reply actions
Uh, I was referring to music...
you people……:)
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Now, she's got soul AND
she’s Super Bad.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 2:01 PM MST up reply actions
True Story
Steamboat has a bridge that is officially named the ‘James Brown Soul Center of the Universe Bridge’.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
I wasn't.
This girl spiritually had no soul. I dated a lot of girls who had no musical soul. That’s an affliction of most Gen Xers.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 2:00 PM MST up reply actions
Whoaaaaaaaa
/gets popcorn
/reclines
Go!
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Cat,
there aren;t enough Gen Xers on this site to make this an argument.
Bunch of millennials.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 2:04 PM MST up reply actions
What am i?
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A hot dog with a hat?
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Nov 30, 2011 2:06 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
REC HARD
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All-natural casing
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 2:07 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
this wins.
so hard.
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I didn't say that there weren't ANY.
But Gen X is in the minority here.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 2:06 PM MST up reply actions
/gets more popcorn
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Have to disagree
The crap us Gen Xers had growing up moved us to a better music; appreciating Classical to Blues to Soul…..
For me the crap of the mid-80s first helped me create my appreciation of Otis Redding and it has just snowballed from there.
Can you dance?
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 2:12 PM MST up reply actions
If he can't
well…he is probably no friend of mine.
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with it's bun.
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This thread is moving too fast
for me to ketchup at work – so fast, in fact, that I can’t mustard enough effort to come up with a good pun.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 30, 2011 2:16 PM MST up reply actions
I onion one.
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rhythmically
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You dated a Yankee fan?
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 30, 2011 2:28 PM MST up reply actions
Damn Yankees
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Great White
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by Junction Rox on Nov 30, 2011 2:59 PM MST up reply actions
me and petro never dated...
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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That one night of passion
was great nice though.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 2:52 PM MST up reply actions
I can’t actually say that I have. As noted, I don;t think I ever dated a woman who was into baseball.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 2:53 PM MST up reply actions
He never lost my undying love...
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And YES, Money does buy happiness and a shit ton of mugs of root beer and sides of mashed potatoes at cracker barrel
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 12:43 PM MST up reply actions
Probably....
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Haha
I had completely forgotten he was on our team
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 30, 2011 12:14 PM MST up reply actions
And then there was also
Dale Murphy, Tony Womack, and Javy Lopez made a guest appearance during a spring training a while back.
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With Jeff
Very nice article / post by Jeff A. I agree with most of his points.
Frankly, I am not in favor of waiting for Stewie to “regress” whatever definition you are using. If the Rox keep him, they need to keep him away from Coors Field. There are too many other attractive options out there. Heck, Pacheco looks a lot better than Stewart at this point.
Hopefully by trade or by FA, DOD & Co. can fill the holes this year with players who can actually help the team.
by Real Perspective on Nov 30, 2011 12:34 PM MST reply actions
Rockies have the worst set of Willies of any NL team
Except Florida and Arizona. http://junkstats.com/theme-teams/best-william-each-mlb-franchise-2/
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 12:44 PM MST via mobile reply actions
at least we are a head of the other “newer teams”
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 12:48 PM MST up reply actions
The jury is still out.
Oh, MaTTs . . .
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Nov 30, 2011 1:47 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Our Matts number has dropped
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A side note...
Jacob Peterson rocks and his work is rad. Does a ton of Braves stuff, but also MLB in general, and the articles and charts he comes up with are all pretty amazing.
Pretty epic collab w/ another TC writer on mullet Tommy Hanson vs. non-mullet Tommy Hanson here: http://www.talkingchop.com/2011/11/22/2550093/fact-or-fiction-tommy-hanson-mullet
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It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
A site called "junkstats" is rating Willies
and we have not one double entendre posted here?
Clearly, the hot dog in a hat stopped reading before getting to ATF’s comment….
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by Junction Rox on Nov 30, 2011 3:01 PM MST up reply actions
Too easy.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 3:01 PM MST up reply actions
Why do I have to be the one
that makes all the sausage in the mouth jokes?
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 3:02 PM MST up reply actions
because if a guy does it
we’re just immature or disrespectful. when you do it, people seem to love it.
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I do it all the time
and no one seems to care. Not even my wife.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 3:04 PM MST up reply actions
It's in your contract...
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by Junction Rox on Nov 30, 2011 3:11 PM MST up reply actions
William Dexter Fowler
would like to be considered as well
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According to source, Rockies have re-signed pitcher Jim Miller on a minor-league deal. Spent some time with team last Sept.
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Championship
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 1:02 PM MST up reply actions
Renck is retracting that now. He says he signed with Oakland instead
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Whelp.
We’ll just have to settle for another season of mediocrity.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 30, 2011 1:06 PM MST up reply actions
I know right? /smh
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dang.there goes 2012
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 1:28 PM MST up reply actions
DAMMMIITTTT
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2011 1:51 PM MST up reply actions
I shouldn't poke fun
Organizational filler is people too.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2011 1:58 PM MST up reply actions
YESSS
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2011 1:51 PM MST up reply actions
Not only that, he signed with Oakland several weeks ago.
How weird that this was even up for debate…
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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 30, 2011 4:15 PM MST up reply actions
With Tigers re-signing Ramon Santiago...
that should take them out of the running for Martin Prado, right? Right?
I can only wish.
Possibly
If they trade for Maicer Izturis too, as had been rumored, yes.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 1:22 PM MST up reply actions
well could we get Maicer Izturis for CDI?
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 1:28 PM MST up reply actions
Yes
Though Iannetta is probably the better player. Both with one year left on their deals. Izturis – $3.55mil, Iannetta – $3.8mil.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 1:31 PM MST up reply actions
Would you rather have Izturis or Prado?
And more importantly, would you rather have Izturis and keep Smith/Wheeler or have Prado and keep CDI?
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 30, 2011 1:33 PM MST up reply actions
Prado by ten times
Tho Izturis/Hernandez plus OF depth might be better than Prado/Iannetta minus depth.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 1:35 PM MST up reply actions
That's what I'm thinking
Izturis seems like a slight offensive downgrade from CDI, but as long as we add Hernandez, I’m happy with it. A competent 2B, while keeping the Most Average Man in the MLB™, and decent catching? Sign me up.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 30, 2011 1:40 PM MST up reply actions
Thing to remember is Izturis is a FA after 2012, Prado after 2013
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 1:42 PM MST up reply actions
Right.
But Izturis costs us less when it comes to a trade.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 30, 2011 1:44 PM MST up reply actions
Interesting
JimBowdenESPNxm: David Forst AGM Oak told us @mlbnetworkradio OF is team’s #1 priority and pitching staff will be used to trade for it
Not exactly surprising
They have no OF, and they’ve dangled Gio.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 1:35 PM MST up reply actions
I'll trade Cargo for their entire pitching staff
probably not but maybe
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 1:42 PM MST up reply actions
Then we could trade Pomeranz for Upton and Chacin for Heyward right
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 1:43 PM MST up reply actions
ATF FTW
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 1:45 PM MST up reply actions
hey
they have ryan sweeney
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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Too expensive for my taste.
We’re not going to blow up the farm for one of oakland’s pitchers (Cahill/Gio).
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 30, 2011 2:11 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Especially when we have a perfectly good Scahill
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2011 2:12 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
He will get more Saves
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 2:13 PM MST up reply actions
Saves=Good Pitcher.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2011 2:14 PM MST up reply actions
(Wins>Saves)/=(Halladay>Papelbon)
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2011 2:17 PM MST up reply actions
still looks like math....
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If we play this right
we could have Cahill and Scahill….
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by Junction Rox on Nov 30, 2011 3:03 PM MST up reply actions
too bad the Dbacks already signed A. Hill
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Cahill may not blow up the farm, actually.
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Yeah, he'd be the cheaper of the two.
Still too expensive, though.
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 30, 2011 2:19 PM MST up reply actions
for our needs? Probably.
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All I really want for our rotation is a veteran who's going to eat innings.
And give us a ~4 ERA.
Gotta focus on the hole at second (and possibly third).
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 30, 2011 2:22 PM MST up reply actions
We might actually need a couple innings eaters
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 2:26 PM MST up reply actions
IMO there are a few ?’s in the rotation at the current moment. Chacin is still somewhat young only really 1 1/2 years under his belt has yet to reach 200 IP, Pomz is young and tired out end of last year, White is young, Hammel is meh, JDlR is coming off TJ surgery, Nicasio is coming off a broken head and also has very little to show for in his career.
Lots of promise as a rotation, but not a lot to prove in terms of performance and durability.
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 2:59 PM MST up reply actions
2 veteran starters just don't fit in the rotation.
We need one. And then maybe a depth signing (Millwood)
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 30, 2011 3:04 PM MST up reply actions
Are we assuming Pom is in?
And White?
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 3:05 PM MST up reply actions
I am.
Chacin, Pom, White, [Insert Veteran Here], Hammel.
At least, that’s what I’d do.
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 30, 2011 3:06 PM MST up reply actions
Hammel to bullpen.
He would slide in there nicely. And then we’re going to need to limit Pomeranz’s innings, so got to take that into consideration. (this is also considering no injuries, soo…)
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 30, 2011 3:08 PM MST up reply actions
There’s a ton of fluidity depending on Nicasio and JDLR’s recoveries, Pom and White’s respective performances and innings limits, and like CCR mentioned, Hammel traded or to the bullpen.
Bettis may also be inline for a call up. I think the only certainty is our 2012 rotation is a piile of uncertainty
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yea him too
they’re both firmly in the ‘maybes’ for me
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Wait...are you talking about baseball?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 3:06 PM MST up reply actions
plus Oakland pitchers always explode anyway
they just can’t stay healthy
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Not true
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 2:42 PM MST up reply actions
Brandon McCarthy is my favourite sportsman bar none. I vote we go for him.
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Lo
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I would totally go with Lo
But the noodle:vegetable ratio is usually off a bit.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 30, 2011 1:53 PM MST up reply actions
But the noodles are usually better....
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Exactly
Better noodles, but not enough vegetable!
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 30, 2011 1:57 PM MST up reply actions
So ask for more veggies....problem solved!
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But I could just ask for
chow mein… fewer syllables
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 30, 2011 2:00 PM MST up reply actions
Is a lesser noodle worth it though?
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For better/more
veggies? Yes.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 30, 2011 2:03 PM MST up reply actions
look how wrong you are! :)
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I dunno.. There has to be a happy medium here.
You can still have the better noodle and ask for more broccoli/carrot/whatever
or you can add a side of Moo Shi Chicken for extra veggies.
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The breakup continues.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 1:56 PM MST up reply actions
WAT???
This is just a bump in the road.
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We can power through this
Just like that one time you told me you didn’t like Arrested Development.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 30, 2011 1:59 PM MST up reply actions
That's right! ^4
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Hmmm depends on where you're ordering from
But probably chow mein.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 30, 2011 1:48 PM MST up reply actions
Chow Mein
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
/it is a new beginning, right?
by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 30, 2011 1:52 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Come on.
Big Trouble in Little China?
Anyone?
Avalance 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
Sounds like my first time.
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Get well soon Juan.
by Thnikkaman on Nov 30, 2011 2:13 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Did anyone actually see that movie?
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It has a high degree of awesomesauce
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by Junction Rox on Nov 30, 2011 3:05 PM MST up reply actions
Yes.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 2:14 PM MST up reply actions
My condolences
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It's ok.
But it’s no They Live.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 2:16 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
The fight between Roddy Piper and whats his name...
Epic
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Absolutely correct.
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Lo Mo
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 2:01 PM MST up reply actions
LoMo's untouchable...
oh wait that’s in OOTP… is he available in real life?
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 30, 2011 2:01 PM MST up reply actions
I saw a rumor this morning of LoMo for Shields/Zobrist
but it was just some guy blowing smoke
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 2:02 PM MST up reply actions
Filling up your senses like a night in the forest since 1992.
by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2011 2:02 PM MST up reply actions
Bruce Chen.
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Major League!
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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League of Extraordinaty Gentlemen
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 30, 2011 2:07 PM MST up reply actions
Major League!
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I AM Legend
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I SAID IT FIRST
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But I said it BEST
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Moneyball!
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Fists of Fury
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Did you just give me (the)SHAFT?
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hehe
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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snakes on a plane
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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Deduno we had a pitcher named Samuel once?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2011 2:15 PM MST up reply actions
i'm getting tylered of this
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Jimenes pal are both getting a good laugh
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Get well soon Juan.
Cleary you are both going off the deep end
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Yeah, rike I’d fall for that one.
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matthes hard sometimes....
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by papality on Nov 30, 2011 2:21 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
It depends on weathers or not you are good at it
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I had a friend once who Greg Reynolds his Alan Johnson. He couldn’t massey it in the parker for days.
Rough story.
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Cool Story, bro
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Nov 30, 2011 3:06 PM MST up reply actions
I has a sad now..
buzzkill
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Exit through the gift shop
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2011 2:18 PM MST up reply actions
You definitely need the better noodle for that
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Moneyball!
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Fists of Fury....uh...wait
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Ground Control!
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Huston, we have a problem..
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Bubba Gump?
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Shrimp!
Lo Mein!
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Nov 30, 2011 4:52 PM MST up reply actions
The circle of life
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It moves us all
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by Junction Rox on Nov 30, 2011 4:56 PM MST up reply actions
that's what she said
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I'm not taking the blame for this thread.
When RMN comes, you’re all going to be grounded.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 2:13 PM MST up reply actions
You started it Mister LO/Chow Mein
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Mine was baseball related.
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But you did start Lo vs. Chow
So not only are you responsible for a bunch of non-baseball content, you’re also driving the wedge between me and cat. Harumph.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 30, 2011 2:14 PM MST up reply actions
I went with the Chow Mein.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 2:05 PM MST up reply actions
The Nazi guy chose..... poorly
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by Junction Rox on Nov 30, 2011 3:08 PM MST up reply actions
Lesser noodle wins..:(
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What is this, a ROOT sports text poll?
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 30, 2011 2:06 PM MST up reply actions
Okay, now we are going to counseling mister.
Because that is just too far.
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Because you compared us to ROOT Sports
Have you not read my ROOT RANT??
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This is correct
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 30, 2011 2:31 PM MST up reply actions
Rhode Island or Boston
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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And here I was thinking that something big just went down
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 30, 2011 2:30 PM MST up reply actions
Didn’t it.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 2:53 PM MST up reply actions
It only registered as a minor ripple on the RIRF scale
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 30, 2011 2:55 PM MST up reply actions
ranging from Delta Cleary, Jr. to Tulonami?
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Um.....
Actually yes!
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 30, 2011 2:58 PM MST up reply actions
So something like last year's Tulo signing would be a 9.9
A trade for Prado would be about a 6.5…..
Yesterday’s “pitcher winz” thread was probably a solid 3.0……
This? I’d say something like a 0.4
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 30, 2011 3:03 PM MST up reply actions
Hey fellas (and ladies)
I’m searching for thesis ideas for my last semester of senior year, and want to do something involving baseball. I’d love some input from the folks here. I’ve fanposted a discussion here. I’m open to any and all thoughts. Thanks people!
Man, this pile went off the damn rails but quick.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2011 2:31 PM MST reply actions
i think we all needed to vent after yesterday's "pitcher winz" episode
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I was just going to say
After yesterday, it’s no surprise
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 30, 2011 2:33 PM MST up reply actions
/2011
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one more month.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2011 2:35 PM MST up reply actions
This has all been a dream
On December 31st at 11:59 pm, you will wake up and realize that its February 22, 2011.
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Get well soon Juan.
So long as Patrick Duffy's still alive.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2011 2:37 PM MST up reply actions
i will kill you
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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I wouldn't mind having this year back for a do over.
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reminds me.
My NY resolution was to sign up for Mint.com to track my spending. Imma have to do that in the next couple days. Curious to see how big a slice o the pie “coors light” is.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2011 2:36 PM MST up reply actions
ahaha I just did that a couple weeks ago
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 2:37 PM MST up reply actions
This resolution signed up for mint.com a while back. It makes you feel stupid and wreckless with spending, but it really did help me rein in my spending on unecessary food and coffee purchases.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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Your phone must blow up around Dec. 29
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2011 2:40 PM MST up reply actions
Huh. Never heard of this before.
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It’s pretty good, tastes similar to Coors but less calories and won’t slow you down.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2011 2:40 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
But how can you tell if the beer is cold?
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They give you a shrunken ex-NFL coach in every six-pack. He lets you know when its gone from cold, to super cold.
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Get well soon Juan.
How can they get Josh McDaniels in every six pack?
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by Junction Rox on Nov 30, 2011 3:09 PM MST up reply actions
touch usually works well for me.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2011 2:51 PM MST up reply actions
How’d you find a video clip with me in it??
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You play fast and loose with your flip cam, bro.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2011 2:55 PM MST up reply actions
I only use cameras and phones with touch screens.
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So you can tell if they’re cold?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2011 3:01 PM MST up reply actions
if water tasted like liquid happiness
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check it out homie
you can set budgets and it tracks your spending.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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PRMLB: The Brew Crew
How much do you have to fill in?
Do you have to categorize everything on your bank site?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2011 2:58 PM MST up reply actions
It's pretty intuitive
and can categorize a lot of stuff automatically. But you do need to check up on it and categorize random or mislabeled things. But its pretty good for stuff like coffee, restaurants, gas, utilities, and clothes.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
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and fast food too
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
PRMLB: The Brew Crew
my wife and I like it
helps with mortgage and loans and stuff just kinda tells you how you are spending with pie charts and stuff
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 3:00 PM MST up reply actions
I'll have to toy with it.
We will see how it works, my wife and I just opened a joint account to take care of joint expenses, then we kept our own accounts for discretionary spending, so we’ll see. It might say all of my spending is discretionary.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2011 3:04 PM MST up reply actions
interesting site
not so sure i want to give out information to yet another source, though
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that is what I thought
but Mint is a INTUIT and QUICKEN company. If their credability goes down even the slightest they lose hundreds of millions of dollars.
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 30, 2011 3:02 PM MST up reply actions
I'd do this
but it’s easy to not overspend when you have no money
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 2:44 PM MST up reply actions
oooooh
look at all the money ATF doesn’t have!
Braggart!
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Well...I have money
I just spend it all……on student loans
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 2:51 PM MST up reply actions
You don’t need money,
/parents basement blogger joke i’m too lazy to finish.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2011 2:52 PM MST up reply actions
I use a program called MoneyWell. Highly recommended for Mac users.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 2:55 PM MST up reply actions
I also really like Manilla.com
But it isn’t as comprehensive as Mint.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Nov 30, 2011 2:57 PM MST up reply actions
MoneyWell works on the envelope system. It’s a great way to budget yourself.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 2:58 PM MST up reply actions
I think the Marlins are purposefully trying to kill themselves
RT @jaysonst: #Marlins give Billy The Marlin the GQ look! http://pic.twitter.com/dv6pE9Wz
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A marlin?
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 3:27 PM MST up reply actions
Bullpen.
There hasn’t been too much discussion on the bullpen so far during the offseason. What do you guys think we should do?
I think Street’s got to go with that salary. I’d slide Brothers into the 8th inning role, with Lindstrom/Reynolds/Belisle for the 6th/7th inning role. I’ve been a big proponent of Rogers to the bullpen, so that takes care of another spot. Roenicke/Escalona for the other bullpen spot.
What do you guys think?
@CentralCaliRox
I'd guess that you're right.
I also see Alex White as about as likely to come out of the pen at this point as Rogers.
Escalona's been horrible in winter ball
seems to have some real anger issues
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 3:36 PM MST up reply actions
I'll do you four better
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2011 3:45 PM MST up reply actions
SSS
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2011 3:52 PM MST up reply actions
Before that, actually...
He seemed a bit immature when I first saw him in Asheville, too. The only Tourist with his jersey hanging out that night and cap askance with some of that hot-headedness flashing on the mound.
Much as I hate seeing players looking and behaving sloppily and negatively emotional
If he can throw freaking strikes for 2 innings at a time, I’ll buy him a punching bag.
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 30, 2011 4:57 PM MST up reply actions
Wat? Really :( That's a shame
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broxton
latroy hawkins, maybe
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This is a headline on MLBTR
Tigers Interested In Coco Crisp, Pitching
I prefer to read it as:
Tigers Interested In Coco Crisp Pitching
The Tigers are stupid if they think Crisp can go from CF to middle relief.
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everyone likes cereal and everyone wants more pitching
Stupid headline.
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by Muzia on Nov 30, 2011 3:23 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
Cereal tossing actually sounds kind of fun...
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by Junction Rox on Nov 30, 2011 3:51 PM MST up reply actions
OTP
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OOTP?
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OOOTP?
Insert wiener joke here.
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One True Pairing - Tony the Tiger/Coco Crisp
Didn’t you get the wedding invitation?
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They should sign Captain Crunch to play CF
Then C.C. Sabathia would want to pitch for them.
by Northsider1964 on Nov 30, 2011 4:00 PM MST up reply actions
oooooohhhh that's what it stands for.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2011 4:01 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I know Crisp isn't a pitcher...
… but I love it when MLBTR accidentally phrases a title or headline to be disparaging to a player.
For example: “Rockies interested in Josh Willingham, Outfielders”.
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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 30, 2011 4:20 PM MST up reply actions
I chuckled
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 30, 2011 4:58 PM MST up reply actions
Anyone else notice...
That we went from having 1-3" of snow over the next 36 hours to 6-10"??
Bunk.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
I'm supposed to get new internet tomorrow. Eek.
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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 30, 2011 4:45 PM MST up reply actions
/party
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 30, 2011 4:58 PM MST up reply actions
New tweet from Renck...
TroyRenck Troy Renck, Rockies
RT @Ken_Rosenthal: Source: #Rockies close to signing R. Hernandez to two-year deal, sending Iannetta to the Angels. Teams checking medicals
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Well, it was new for a minute and a half
until this one came through….
TroyRenck Troy Renck, Rockies
Confirmation that Hernandez coming to Rockies… Chatwood should be coming back from Angels.
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by Junction Rox on Nov 30, 2011 4:47 PM MST up reply actions
Dammit you beat me
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My skills - ninja like...
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by Junction Rox on Nov 30, 2011 4:49 PM MST up reply actions
This is actually making me sad :(
I’m going to miss CDI…and the HAR is taking a hit too
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ROCK!
They did something.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 4:50 PM MST up reply actions
I’m down wit’ it. Can never have too many arms, and the kid more than held his own in the bigs at 21 last year in the DH league. Always have liked Hernandez. As much as I liked Iannetta, he was a very frustrating player.
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Awesome.
I’ll have something on this in an hour or so
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 30, 2011 4:58 PM MST up reply actions
Only an hour or so after Rox Girl... :-)
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by Junction Rox on Nov 30, 2011 5:00 PM MST up reply actions
I would consider myself a CDI supporter
but I’m OK with this one. At least it’s not another Mora/Wiggington level deal; maybe not much bigger, but it should have a bigger impact.
Godspeed CDI
I hope you have a good year next year. A good, slightly worse than Hernandez’ year year. I liked you and I hope that you get the PA’s you deserve under a new manager.
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by SurfaceThought on Nov 30, 2011 5:00 PM MST up reply actions
he won't
he’s going to play for mike scoscia
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ew
want hernandez, but do not want chatwood.
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oh my
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 30, 2011 4:58 PM MST up reply actions
/George Takei
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by Greg Stanwood on Nov 30, 2011 5:13 PM MST up reply actions
Hernandez almost signed...
And CDI to Angels is what Rosenthal is reporting.
by nkrause on Nov 30, 2011 4:48 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Agreed
I liked CDI, even if he was incredibly frustrating at times as F26 points out.
Hernandez will be an upgrade offensively, I think. But definitely a downgrade behind the plate (although I’ll admit I’m not up to speed on his framing abilities…). Don’t know much about Chatwood other than what was discussed here yesterday, but I’m going to assume a 21 year old pitcher with some time in the majors last year will contribute this year and grow and least somewhat from there. Combine Chatwood and Hernandez and it’s an upgrade over CDI, or at least it should be.
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by Junction Rox on Nov 30, 2011 4:55 PM MST up reply actions
CGI’s defense wasn’t that great last year.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Nov 30, 2011 4:57 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe if CGI was involved his framing would have been better ;)
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It was computer generated?
His defense isn’t great. Hernandez’s is a few notches below “not great”
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by Junction Rox on Nov 30, 2011 4:58 PM MST up reply actions
agreed
no more doom jokes :(
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Me too...
Confused still.
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 30, 2011 6:18 PM MST up reply actions
just for Chatwood?
I DO NOT LIKE THIS.
NOT AT ALL.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 30, 2011 4:55 PM MST up reply actions
We’re getting a team’s number two overall prospect from 2011 – and the Angels are generally pretty well regarded when it comes to their farm – for a catcher who didn’t really hit. Chill, bro.
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Maybe not just Chatwood
TroyRenck Troy Renck, Rockies
Rockies asked for Class-A pitcher John Hellweg in talks as well. Not sure if he’s in deal as well. Story developing
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by Junction Rox on Nov 30, 2011 4:57 PM MST up reply actions
Wow. Serious K numbers in the Cal League. 11.4 K/9 in 89.1 IP
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at age 23
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He's the anti-Chatwood...
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by Junction Rox on Nov 30, 2011 5:09 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, Renck now saying Chatwood is probably the only player coming back...
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by Junction Rox on Nov 30, 2011 5:09 PM MST up reply actions
beat me to it
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by Andrew Martin on Nov 30, 2011 4:59 PM MST up reply actions
^5
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 1, 2011 9:42 AM MST up reply actions
Wow.
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Zoiks!
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by Junction Rox on Nov 30, 2011 4:49 PM MST up reply actions
Chatwood info...
Short of knowing he had a somewhat disappointing 2011 (but @ 21 in MLB, hard to fault him for struggling), I don’t know much about him, other than he was a top-100 guy and is supposed to be a heavy GB guy.
Seems like a pretty solid return…
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
I think the GBs come from his over the top motion.
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by CentralCaliRox on Nov 30, 2011 6:19 PM MST up reply actions
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I guess I should have put Iannetta at number 1 on the list
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