Fanforum with Dick Monfort and DOD
by Cargo'es Yard on Dec 14, 2011 6:27 PM MST
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Dick Monfort and Dan O'Dowd are holding a second call for season ticket holders to talk Rox. Depending on the pace, I'll try to post the major details of the call. I"m not a great scribe but hopefully you approve of my work.
Since this fanpost requires 75 characters, I should let you know I wasn't able to make the first call so I'm not of the setup for this call. I'm hoping for a Q and A but we'll see.
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Cant listen in but,
Status of Prado and Beltran?
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supposed to get a call here shortly
so not on the call yet. I’m sure they won’t skip out on potential FA targets.
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by Cargo'es Yard on Dec 14, 2011 6:30 PM MST up reply actions
i wanted to break the ice. I knew it hadn't started yet.
Thanks for doing this.
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Scouting question on first round picks
Dick Monfort acknowledges we aren’t do well with first round picks but doing well in subsequent rounds.
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Question on Of bats, i think
Still looking at Beltran, health issues are a concern
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apparently that was that
nothing else on other options…curious
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by Cargo'es Yard on Dec 14, 2011 6:38 PM MST up reply actions
forget teh health issues. SIGN HIM!
68 today, 67 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
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I call BS on the "due diligence" on Beltran's knee
He had microfracture surgery, which means he has missing cartilidge in his knee that’s been replaced by scar tissue. I honestly don’t know what kind of homework you can do on his knee. You either take a leap of faith that the knee has 2 or 3 good years left, or you don’t. There really aren’t any tests or drills that are going to answer that question for you.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 14, 2011 6:44 PM MST up reply actions
risk has a $$$ figure attached to it.
Any FA signing is a bit of a bet that player will produce a certain amount. I think every team sees Beltran as a bit risky in this regard or he’d have more suitors and possibly signed already. I don’t think it’s total BS, just to the extent that it’s used as an excuse for the Rockies to downplay the money issue it is.
It's absolutely risky
I don’t disagree with that at all. But you either take the leap or you don’t. After I had microfracture surgery, I was in the best shape of my life. My knee was stable and very strong. There was no outward sign that I had ever been hurt. But your knee ages in dog years at that point. It’s just a crap shoot whether it lasts long enough for a team to get its money’s worth.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 14, 2011 6:58 PM MST up reply actions
Microfracture surgery saved Kenyon Martin's career
I’m not too worried about this type of surgery. As I understand it, the procedure eventually results in the cartilage basically regrowing itself (simplified I know). I would prefer to know someone has had this surgery vs ongoing tendon issues etc.
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microfracture ...
I had it done on my ankle. Basically, it is still arthroscopic surgery. They clean up the busted up cartilage and then drill tiny holes in the bones where the cartilage should be. This causes the bone to bleed, which in theory regenerates the growth of cartilage in the area. As it in arthroscopic, it is not a particularly invasive surgery, but there is no guarantee how well the cartilage regenerated and the only way to know for sure is to re-scope the area which is usually not done as it sets the timetable back further.
My ankle is much improved since the surgery – the greatest obstacle (acknowledging I am not a professional athlete but a weekend warrior) at least as far as the ankle was concened is the recovery of full movement and the breaking up of scar tissue. That Beltran played 140+ games last year after fully recovering from the surgery to me speaks volumes.
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progressing well…won’t be ready for spring training but soon there after they’re expecting him back. Didn’t say a date though.
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DOD made the comment
but really surprised they’re not talking in depth about any of these. So far it’s only been a Q and A session.
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by Cargo'es Yard on Dec 14, 2011 6:40 PM MST up reply actions
mades to talk about how much the payroll is so we have an idea what they are thinking
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Collective bargaining agreement question
DOD makes a statement that slot will allow the best player to go to the highest pick. States incorrectly that this will “level the playing field” in the draft with high and low revenue teams. Says the same thing about international signings and says the cap there will allow to sign players that normally will take $3M or so.
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Question about lack of developing pitchers in the system
Weathers, Reynolds, and Freidrich are mentioned as disappointments. Chad Bettis may be in the rotation or bullpen this year.
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Amazed he made that statement about Bettis
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by Cargo'es Yard on Dec 14, 2011 6:50 PM MST up reply actions
I got "in line" to ask a question
But I have no shot. So far everyone who’s been given the mike had Denver Bears season tickets in the 1950’s and hasn’t missed a game since.
And that’s cool, they deserve the priority status.
Huston Street trade....this fan hated it
DOD doesn’t consider the prospect we got as a throw in. Was a third round pick.
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Street went to DOD
if the opportunity came up, wanted to go somewhere else if in the best interest of both teams.
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by Cargo'es Yard on Dec 14, 2011 6:52 PM MST up reply actions
but they could've gotten someone better
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Tyler Chatwood/Iannetta question
DOD was looking for a more veteran catcher to help Rosario. Says we have two young catchers in Rosario and Pacheco. DOD believes CDI would be uncomfortable teaching the two youngins so they sent him somewhere where he can play everyday.
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Remember when he went off on that young umpire by the name of Cory Blaser?
I don’t think would handle a bunch of crap from them.
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1st base question
Helton is old.
DOD: This has been a focus in FA. Looking for someone that can help there but just in a utility role. Todd is willing to come back and be Todd and fill out the middle of the order.
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This is why Cuddyer's the focus, glad he actually says something about it.
I’d still rather have Beltran.
This
66 today, 65 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
Then why not try to get Fielder for 2 years, then the market will be higher yet for him?
I know. MONEY MONEY MONEY
66 today, 65 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
Because there's no way in hell Fielder would take a two-year deal, unless it's for like $50MM a year?
Just an average guy with exceptional hair. Nothing more, nothing less.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Dec 14, 2011 8:12 PM MST up reply actions
He isnt worth 25 million a year.
Yea, he can hit homers, but he had what 18 errors on the year.
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Yes, we know
that’s why we won’t get him on a 2 year deal
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 14, 2011 9:59 PM MST up reply actions
Nicasio question and rumors on Prado/Jurrijens
DOD: Nicasio has no issues…full training. will face live batters after 1st of the year. Saunders is expected to go back to Dbacks. No extensive talks about Jurrijens but have on another player. Not sure they can sign Kuroda this offseason.
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Sorry should clarify
there have been extensive talks with the braves about another player. Didn’t say who.
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by Cargo'es Yard on Dec 14, 2011 7:01 PM MST up reply actions
Since the question was about Prado, it's pretty obvious.
The fact that he doesn’t say his name is interesting. Basically it signals Jurrjens is dead to the Rockies, but that they’re still holding out hope for Prado. I think this might be a bit of a fantasy.
to expand, the basic rule is that you don't discuss players you're in ongoing discussions about...
If a GM avoids mentioning a player’s name like that, it’s a pretty clear tell that there’s still an open offer/dialog going on.
Nicasio is the man.
Doing what he is doing after what happened. A whole lot more of mad respect for him.
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I hope it's the same when he's facing live hitters
And the ball is smashed at his body. Though I also wonder if, in his autobiography “From a Fractured Spine to Cooperstown: the Juan Nicasio Story”, he may end up claiming that the injury was what made him realise he had the strength, skill and application to become a multiple Cy Young winner.
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by biondino on Dec 15, 2011 4:42 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Coors Field question
DOD: believes we have the best stadium….improving consessions. That was an actual question
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next question has to do with replay
not much to add about this either.
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by Cargo'es Yard on Dec 14, 2011 7:05 PM MST up reply actions
Cuddyer question...I love this caller
Why isn’t Seth Smith more adored by the org. Good power hitter.
DOD: Hoping Smith hits 20 homers. Trying to build a clubhouse. Trying to build a culture and want more men that want to compete. Need to more from JV to Varsity. Show up every night. Those that don’t won’t be Rockies. You can tell this struck a chord with DOD. His voice has angered…very noticable.
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That Tracy needs to play him everynight. Thats the way he can get better. BLAME TRACY!
66 today, 65 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
Really loved the caller on this
Misspoke and said that Seth Smith is a 20 to 25 home run hitter but that is a very good hitter that struggles vs lefties.
DOD immediately shot back and said he’s never hit 20 homers and that his high is 17.
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by Cargo'es Yard on Dec 14, 2011 7:30 PM MST up reply actions
Not sure why DOD had that in his hip pocket
It came off as us (meaning us Rowbots) believing Smith is better than he is. The whole question and answer had a very weird and angry vibe to it.
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by Cargo'es Yard on Dec 14, 2011 7:34 PM MST up reply actions
Colvin question
DOD: believes he needed a change of scenery. Believes he can play all three OF positions. Believe Ian needed a change of scenery. Good get for us.
Me: Colvin in CF at Coors?
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Stewart's taking a subtle beating
A lot of DOD’s “culture” remarks seem directed toward him.
No doubt
i wonder if iannetta is part of that too but definitely stewart.
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by Cargo'es Yard on Dec 14, 2011 7:14 PM MST up reply actions
Could be
But he really pulled no punches on Stewart. I’m not paraphrasing too much in describing one of his comments as “we were lucky to get Colvin because there was no &$^% way Stewart was going to be back in this clubhouse.”
by Northsider1964 on Dec 14, 2011 7:20 PM MST up reply actions
Same thing I heard from Ian's former coaches..
who I met during Spring Training.
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I got your back
I’ve got no ill will for Ian, but the writing has been on the wall.
Yeah i got that as well
too slow with the typing machine to get that in.
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by Cargo'es Yard on Dec 14, 2011 7:31 PM MST up reply actions
AAA question....pitching is getting hammered in Co Springs
DOD: need to get a better situation in the springs. stadium is higher, weather crappy, field is hard. White and Poms skipped AAA and didn’t want them to get blown up.
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Thls ls such good news...anythlng about the humldor?
In all things, it is better to hope than despair.
Nope no mention of humidor
he did point out that Poms and White were intentionally held in AA to keep them from playing in those conditions. Doesn’t sound like our top prospects will ever make a stop in AAA especially pitchers.
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by Cargo'es Yard on Dec 15, 2011 8:29 AM MST up reply actions
gosh, we have just got to get thls thlng flxed. l guess we could make Tulsa AAA and the sprngs just rehab ?
In all things, it is better to hope than despair.
Slowey question
DOD: Slowey slowed by injuries last year. Bounceback year possible next year. Strike thrower. Lowest walks/9 next to Halladay. Not a 1, 2 or 3 but can throw strikes and will help us.
P.S. Still in the queue but doubt i’m going to get in.
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Why not ask if he is going to get rid of Tracy and stop a lot of heartbreak here on the Row
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Coaching staff question
Why did the coaching staff stay in tact? Bad baserunning, didn’t get runners over. Caller says Gibson’s signing in Arizona made a huge impact by changing coaches.
DOD: Easy to blame coaches. Sounds like we have to have more leadership that holds players accountable. If we have more leadership from the coaches and players, this will make a difference.
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Pitching question....who's the 1 and 2 on the staff
DOD: Bunch of 2, 3’s or 4’s on the staff. HOping to have someone become a 1. But we have no 5’s in our staff. Injuries were a big issue last year with our pitching. Sounds like he’s comfortable with our staff.
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O'Dowd was very candid and honest about the lack of a proven #1, and I appreciate that
But if he thinks he doesn’t have any #5s on this roster, I’ll have whatever he’s drinking.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 14, 2011 7:31 PM MST up reply actions
Leaving too many players on base last year
What’s the strategy this year to improve this?
DOD: Trying to add guys that can hit with running in scoring position. Maturity is one of the reasons we don’t do this well. We also have a fear of failure. Not a coaching issue but a player issue.
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and that was the last question
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by Cargo'es Yard on Dec 14, 2011 7:24 PM MST up reply actions
Dick's last thoughts
We’re working really hard to make this a memorable season. Sad about last year…unhappy even. Hated it as much as we did.
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One thing I like about the Monfort's..
they take this baseball winning thing seriously. I listened to Charlie Monfort give a speech in 2008 at the Juco World Series and he spoke about how embarrassed he was about how bad the team was playing.
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I never got around to writing my post about ownership
But I do not fault the Monforts about how they’ve handled the ownership of the Rox. They signed Tulo and Cargo to large extensions (Tulo moreso) that it’s unfair to call them cheap. We have great attendance but some of that has to do with how affordable tickets are. They’re finally raising prices for the first time in 4 years and not a large increase at that. Our payroll is in the top half of the league and bunched in with the Braves, Brewers, and I believe Twins so our execution has just been a bit off over the past two years.
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by Cargo'es Yard on Dec 14, 2011 7:39 PM MST up reply actions
I just hope they allow Dan to fix the team
if it requires more cash… If they have an obvious fix, and it requires a bump, I hope they give the bump.
A couple other minor league notes that haven't been mentioned here, derived from Tweets of the discussion:
Josh Rutledge,
Nolan Arenado,
Kent Matthes
Chad Bettis,
and
Timmy Wheeler should all be MLB ready soon.
Bettis and Chatwood seem to be seen by the org more as bullpen guys right now. That could significantly impact their future fantasy value for those of you that have them in keeper leagues.
That Matthes’ name keeps on getting brought up is a bit of a surprise to me, as there are a few more of that type of hitter in the org. ahead of him. Keep an eye on him for the outfield mix this year, particularly if things head south with Colvin and Wheeler.
Which RH bat would you put ahead of Matthes in the organization?
Except for Rosario there isn’t another one, and especially not an OF bat.
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Agree with this question
Sure, he is not yound for the level he’s played at, but he did everything he could to outplay his competition. I don’t see anyone comparable above him who’s near ready, except for perhaps Wheeler.
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It'd be good if people could rec this up to a recommended FanPost.
I think these calls contain important information. Looking back, the first one definitely did.
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For sure, and particularly as you pointed out the last time they did this
the calls very much highlight something we overlook (or, fairly, have no access to) and that is the importance of clubhouse/off-field issues. It seems to me that the org is really trying to address a perceived problem with professionalism and dedication among some of these guys. Not sure how we can be expected to consider much of this stuff in our daily bickering/analysis, and I’m sure it must drive the SABR cats bananas…but its clear that this is a big issue behind the curtain.
Definitely rec this bad boy
Nice work CY
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 14, 2011 10:10 PM MST up reply actions
Thank you CY
Great job, and great reading. Really appreciate the effort.
I miss the magic. (h/t papality)
wow, great read
thanks so much for doing this, it’s greatly appreciated
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