Monday Rockpile: Odds 'n' Ends, Nieves, Mora, 2011 Free Agency
In case you missed the groundbreaking news last night, the Colorado Rockies have inked Wil Nieves to a Minor League Contract.
Here are some facts about Wil Nieves:
1. Nieves has played for 6 different teams in his professional baseball career: the Padres, Yankees, Angels, Nationals, Braves, Brewers. The Rockies will be team #7. All he needs is to hitch on with a AL Central team and he'll have played in all 6 divisions.
2. Nieves is not a MLB catcher. He's just not. The closest he came was during the 2008-2010 stretch where he played backup for the Nationals. He averaged 66G, 206PA during those years, with a .244/.293/.315 batting line. He hasn't cracked 100PA in any single season outside of those 3 years.
3. Nieves was once traded for $1. When Brian McCann hit the DL, the Braves needed catching depth, so they called up JC Boscan from the minors to back up David Ross, and acquired Nieves from Milwaukee for $1. Other noteworthy athletes who have been acquired for $1: Wes Helms (Philly to Florida, 2008); Kris Draper (Winnipeg to Detroit, 1993 - it was really a waiver claim); Ray Sheppard (Buffalo to New York Rangers, 1990).
4. Nieves hails from the Latin country to the south known as, you guessed it, Puerto Rico. Yes, the Rockies influence in Central and South America continues to grow, first in the Dominican Republic, then in Venezuela, and now Puerto Rico. Much like the Rockies have used their Venezuelan influence to attract free agents such as Ramon Hernandez and Melvin Mora, this Neives acquisition is clearly a precursor to acquiring Carlos Beltran to shore up the Rockies' lineup.
In all seriousness, Nieves isn't the kind of guy the Rockies are bringing in to make any sort of MLB impact. As Rox Girl mentioned in Sunday's Rockpile comments, Nieves is just one of many catchers that the Rockies are going to be bringing in to basically catch the entire stable of young pitchers fighting for their chance at a spot on the MLB roster.
Yeah, there's always the chance that these depth guys could be called up for the sake of not having another MLB ready catcher, but you really can't count on him to be anything more than a warm body to backstop errant curveballs. There's always the chance that a guy like Nieves could tag-team with Ramon Hernandez to help coach young prospect Wilin Rosario, help mentor him to become a MLB catcher, but anything of that nature would just be gravy on top of the real job he's here for.
Among other depth signings, the Rockies have also inked the following players to Minor League Contracts:
C/2B/3B/LF Wilkin Castillo
Pitcher Mike Ekstrom
3B/2B/1B Brendan Harris
Pitcher Zach Simons (former Rockies 2nd round pick, traded for Jason Grilli)
Truly, these are exciting times to be a Rockies fan.
* * *
In other news, we saw the Rockies are apparently ringing Melvin Mora's phone off the hook. Those jerks, don't they know his 14 kids are napping?
Wilmer Reina tweeted at Troy Renck on Sunday that the Rockies keep hounding the guy. Again, depth. The Rockies would probably just use him as depth in camp, as his season in Arizona in 2011 left a lot to be desired.
Really, the Rockies are looking at guys like DJ LeMahieu, Brandon Wood, Jordan Pacheco, or the normal pile of 2B we have in Jonathan Herrera, Eric Young Jr., and Chris Nelson to take that backup infielder job, and a couple of them will probably win some sort of utility job. Mora's the consummate professional though, complete with hard work, a fire to compete, and a perpetually disgusted look on his face, and he could give these young whippersnappers a run for their money.
It was kind of a slow news day on Sunday. Which pretty much guarantees that the Rockies are going to do something huge like 4 minutes after this publishes just to make me look stupid.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 7:35 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Arizona signed that other Twins outfielder for 2/15 to start in LF
Between this and the Stewart rumor this summer, it appears Kevin Towers really doesn’t care for Gerardo Parra
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 7:41 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Which makes much less sense to me than O'Dowd not really caring for Seth Smith.
And if this signing takes away from Parra’s projected innings at all in 2012, I really don’t see how Arizona would come out ahead in that exchange. Of course, if like the Rockies with Smith, they can bring something valuable back at another position by trading Parra (say to the Reds, who need a LF to pair with Heisey for Juan Francisco) then I could see some reasoning behind it. I still like the Smith to Cuddyer value switch better than the Parra to Kubel switch though.
the Parra To Kubel switch is mortgage defensive value lost in one move
Than anything we could pull off. Except, replacing Tulo with Helton at short. MAYBE
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 8:00 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
We could replace Dex in CF with Jeremy Bernitz
by Northsider1964 on Dec 19, 2011 8:08 AM MST up reply actions
That was a monster year
.380 wOBA, and surprisingly, only -.4 UZR/150 in 517 CF innings. Probably the best treatment a Rockies OF has gotten from UZR.
Yes he had a very good year at the plate
And he really wasn’t god-awful in CF. But watching him try to cover all those acres was downright painful.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 19, 2011 9:24 AM MST up reply actions
I didn't get to see much in those days except an odd game on ESPN
but I couldn’t imagine it was fun to watch. I don’t know how the advanced stuff grades him that well.
Did he admit to using during that time?
Arizona could use that offense.
Was Parra offered up for Stewart? I’d have definitely taken Parra over Colvin/Lemahieu.
That was the rumor at last year's trade deadline,
though I’m not sure anyone is 100% certain that it was a straight-up offer.
I would have taken it in a heartbeat, even though Parra didn’t seem to fit a need. He’s just too solid a player to pass up for someone who you’re bent on moving.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 19, 2011 9:03 AM MST up reply actions
Heyman just tweeted
the Rockies won the Darvish sweepstakes… there is your make-up for a slow Sunday LOL
LIAR
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 8:01 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
I've also been a big fan of Melvin Mora
But the Rockies can’t seriously be looking at him to play in 2012, can they? His legs were long gone in 2010, even though he had a decent year here overall. I don’t know too many guys who get their legs back at 40.
Now if they have something else in mind for Mora, that might be worth pursuing. He seems to have a good rapport with a lot of young Venezuelan players.
Unless it's another carousel year like 2010, probably not
There’d have to be severely poor performances by DJ, Wood, Nelson, Emaus, the real prospects, and probably even Herrera before Mora would get a shot. And then he’d have to somehow be good.
no thanks on Mora…Although if he wants to play first base the combined age of our 1B would be like 331 years old
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 19, 2011 8:12 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah as much as I like the guy, I really can't see it
But if they want to bring him back into the organization in a different capacity, that would be interesting.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 19, 2011 8:14 AM MST up reply actions
Even I'd admit that Cuddyer could probably play better D at third than Mora at this point.
If it happens on a minor league deal, though, it’s nothing to get worked up about.
even at that I’d rather have whoever loses the job of 3B or 2B the job in the minors over Mora…screw more depth, we already have depth, we already have about 9 guys of the same talent competing for the job of 2B and 3B we don’t need a 40 year old in the mix of these guys that have the potential to get better. Mora, at this point, really can only go down in my opinion. Thanks for 2010, but no thanks. We have depth, the only thing we don’t have is starters
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 19, 2011 8:22 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
That sounds a lot like the pitching rotation
We have depth, the only thing we don’t have is starters
haha very true
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 19, 2011 8:30 AM MST up reply actions
It's not like he'd play over Arenado
but I’m not disagreeing that it’s unnecessary, and I think it’s dangerous to have “saavy veterans” around for “presence” to be called up when the manager or GM decide the team needs it, particularly when the team’s best interest is running through all young, internal options first to see if one is a long term solution.
He's bringing five gloves to Spring Training
Bring him and Wiggy both back, and you really only need about 16 guys on the active roster.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 19, 2011 8:51 AM MST up reply actions
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 8:53 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
I watched him play CF in Glendale in 2010
Nearly played a deep fly into a inside park homer in the first inning.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 9:39 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
I know, wondering when Santa is coming down the chimney
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 19, 2011 8:31 AM MST up reply actions
half past three, from what I've heard...
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by Junction Rox on Dec 19, 2011 9:52 AM MST up reply actions
The Fathers are going to sign Jeremy Hermida, such a typical Padres signing
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Didn't they already have him?
I thought he was released to make roster room for Huston Street, actually.
He was in a funny spot where he was Designated for Assignment, and then non-tendered while in the midst of the DFA process.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 19, 2011 12:26 PM MST up reply actions
1) full glass of water with 4 IBProufen
2) Sleep 45+ minutes
3) Sip on cold gatorade for hour
4) Eat a big greasy meal
5) Hangover done
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 19, 2011 9:01 AM MST up reply actions
Mine is eggs bennidict.
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Ramen
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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nasty.
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don’t hate
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Ramen is disgusting.
Unless it is the beef flavor with corn in it.
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correct
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Dec 19, 2011 11:14 AM MST up reply actions
Ramen is disgusting.
Yes, yes it is.
by Purple Row Troll on Dec 19, 2011 11:14 AM MST up reply actions
aren't they all the same?
like isn’t that the little inside joke about ramen?
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nope.
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i think you've been out of college too long
forgotten all about ramen
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it took me years to even
attempt to eat ramen again after college.
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I'm not sure I ever have.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Dec 19, 2011 11:19 AM MST up reply actions
Look how wrong you are.
Chicken is delicious.
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by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 11:22 AM MST up reply actions
Chicken goes well with
some fresh vegetables mixed in it.
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No
Vegetables are bad. You are what you eat.
Although I have to settle for some if I heat myself up Cup Of Noodles at 2am…I hate picking out the carrots though.
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by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 11:24 AM MST up reply actions
just don’t drop the peas.
Filling up your senses like a night in the forest since 1992.
by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 19, 2011 11:25 AM MST up reply actions
My love of cucumbers is probably
why i’m gay.
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You're gay?
I must have missed something.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 19, 2011 11:29 AM MST up reply actions
i didn't think hot dogs with hats could be gay
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totally down for some
hot dog on hot dog action.
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did you ever get your tattoo?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 19, 2011 11:31 AM MST up reply actions
ha ha ha ha ha
Not yet.
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I've seen this on the web....somewhere
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o_O
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Just sayin...someone sent me a link
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wonder who?
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by DAWNMARIE01 on Dec 19, 2011 12:17 PM MST up reply actions
Oscar Meyer
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Wait
no…it was a guy called Nathan…..
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I laughed
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Also
where do you think the juice in the package comes from?
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Ok.
That’s terrible.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 19, 2011 11:33 AM MST up reply actions
heh
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But cucumbers are vegetables....
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by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 11:35 AM MST up reply actions
Oh.
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by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 4:25 PM MST up reply actions
Simple Rule
Anything that has an internal seed is a fruit.
This includes squashes, tomatoes, avocados, etc…
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what if the male of the species carries the egg to incubation,
as with penguins?
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And seahorses?
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Yeah I know...
but that’s ridiculous.
And cucumbers are gross. So- vegetable. Can be put in a salad- vegetable. Can’t be eaten with whipped cream…
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by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 5:31 PM MST up reply actions
So strawberries oranges and grapes are veggies then?
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No
They CAN be eaten with whipped cream.
And can’t be eaten in a NORMAL salad- like with ranch dressing.
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by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 5:43 PM MST up reply actions
Strawberries
are delicious in tossed salads even with ranch dressing.
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That sounds weird.
Even if it tastes good.
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by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 5:45 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah that sounds gross.
Veggies go with Ranch and Fruit goes with Whip cream. Anything else is an abomination.
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amen
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by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 5:48 PM MST up reply actions
Wrong.
Best salad I’ve ever had strawberry with yogurt dressing over romaine with pecans. To DIE FOR
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I thought the same thing until I tasted it.
Oh.MY. GAWD
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gross
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by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 5:50 PM MST up reply actions
That does sound good
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Yeah,
it sounds good- fruits and nuts in salad.
But does it taste good? No.
(I dislike nuts, for what it’s worth)
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by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 6:45 PM MST up reply actions
I've had salads with strawberries, mandarin oranges, and blueberries.
All were really good (though I don’t like blueberries in general). I wouldn’t normally put ranch on them, but a poppy seed dressing or some kind of vinagrette is awesome.
If Paul Newman had meant for Fruit to be eaten that way..
he would have made a salad dressing out of it.
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Paul Newman dressings are overrated
However his pasta sauces are terrific.
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I don't know...
these two look mighty suspicious to me:
Trader Joe's
has a delicious cranberry, walnut ,gorgonzola dressing that is scrumpious
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I've actually had that one, it's good..
but Cranberry is a juice. Not a fruit.
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Are you saying
it grows in a bog as a juice?
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Cranberry is a sauce.
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by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 6:28 PM MST up reply actions
You guys are killing me
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That Newman's Raspberry Walnot is good.
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
That's not the Paul Newman I know..

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Lord Amighty he's a gorgeous man
still is
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I need one of those sweaters.
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He's dead.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 19, 2011 6:33 PM MST up reply actions
He'll always be gorgeous is my point
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Did he have Lenin's mortician?
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by Junction Rox on Dec 19, 2011 7:36 PM MST up reply actions
That's not normal though :P
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by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 6:24 PM MST up reply actions
Not fancy schmancy.
Grown in my vegetable garden.
And we’ve come full circle.
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by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 6:28 PM MST up reply actions
Your face
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by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 6:33 PM MST up reply actions
You are in college to expand your mind
I’m still paying for my mind expansion.
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Get well soon Juan.
I'll be paying for mine for a while too...
Which is kinda normal.
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by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 6:36 PM MST up reply actions
Spinach Salad
With blue cheese crumbles, red onions, shredded carrots, and a warm balsamic, bacon, and honey dressing.
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Get well soon Juan.
Switch the balsamic..
with blue cheese dressing over the crumbles and you’ve successfully made a healthy sald, delicious!
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Oooh, that sounds good.
And ranch dressing is heinous – like in a Wal-Mart sort of way.
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
Look how right you are
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by Junction Rox on Dec 19, 2011 7:36 PM MST up reply actions
Normal salad does not include Ranch dressing
Ever.
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Get well soon Juan.
you people are insane
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Ranch dressing is worse than Miracle Whip.
And, I’m eating Vegan Chili right now.
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Get well soon Juan.
You could not be more wrong
You could try.
But you would not be.
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i'd like to refer you to a medical doctor
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are you sure that there's a cure for that?
I’m thinking we need to refer him to a quarantine island or something.
It actually sounds like my high falutin’ tastes might be similar to Thnikkaman’s, but I’ve had a high quality, fresh ranch dressing before, and it can work just fine on a salad.
Why eat Ranch
When you can eat good Blue Cheese. I also love a simple Olive Oil and Balsamic vinaigrette.
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Get well soon Juan.
Because they taste totally different?
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Exactly
Ranch is for people who think Velveeta is a cheese.
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Yeah, tell Mac it's not cheese.
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If Velveeta is a cheese
Then Ty Wiggington is a 6 WAR per season 3rd Baseman.
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Get well soon Juan.
It’s processed cheese product.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 19, 2011 6:36 PM MST up reply actions
My favorite is creamy Casaer or Greek vinagrette.
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by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 6:31 PM MST up reply actions
It depends on what's in the salad,
particularly if you’re using a sharp cheddar (with apple, actually, for an instance where I’ve had ranch used successfully just to tick off the fruit doesn’t belong crowd) or other cheese as an element, you wouldn’t want the blue cheese to detract from that.
bleu cheese is nasty
ranch goes with everything, why would you want to eat something moldy?
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Bleu Cheese is the best
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No.
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by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 6:36 PM MST up reply actions
Agree
Blue Cheese >>>>>>>> Ranch
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Why does everyone have to be one side or the other?
I’m eclectic in my tastes. I like both at different times.
I think that’s indecisive not eclectic.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 19, 2011 6:37 PM MST up reply actions
Different strokes
for different folks.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 19, 2011 6:38 PM MST up reply actions
Look how wrong you are!
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Yeah, wrong folks.
:P
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by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 6:41 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah-
Greek or Caesar for when I have it, Ranch for when the formers are not on sale.
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by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 6:40 PM MST up reply actions
Wait, what are we talking about?
I thought we were on food.
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because this is purple row, and that's how things work here
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good grief
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by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 6:40 PM MST up reply actions
I enjoy both for different reasons
but I prefer bleu cheese over ranch
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Do you eat any kind of cheese?
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i don't understand the question
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counterpoint:
beer gets you drunk
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counter-counterpoint...
if you like blue cheese and hotwings, you are a bar person, which means you like drinking, which gets you drunk. I know it must be true because somebody asked the question to Yahoo! and all of these things are based in fact.
i prefer ranch with my wings
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Things that you eat that contain mold:
Bread
Doughnuts
Salami
Mushrooms
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Get well soon Juan.
I like mushrooms.
And doughnuts are the only nuts I’ll eat.
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by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 6:46 PM MST up reply actions
Cheese
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Sometimes.
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by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 6:47 PM MST up reply actions
The best thing about chicken
is that it tastes like chicken.
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Pip,
“Look how wrong you are” is a very annoying thing. Please don’t become One Of Them.
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look how wrong you are
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must…….resist……..
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 19, 2011 11:30 AM MST up reply actions
just give in
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it feels good
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checking it twice?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 19, 2011 11:36 AM MST up reply actions
gonna find out if he is as wrong
as everyone tells him he looks.
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Maybe he's just upset because it failed him as a pickup line:
How wrong is it to look the way you are?
worst pick up line ever.
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worst or best?
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look how having breakfast we are.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 19, 2011 11:44 AM MST up reply actions
I have had success in the past with
the old “humorous mockery” style. But it does only tend to work with people who are already into you – doesn’t tend to impress people who haven’t yet succumbed to your charms.
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smartass
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Dec 19, 2011 12:18 PM MST up reply actions
I'm so sorry.
Never again.
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by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 11:36 AM MST up reply actions
woo ^5
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by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 11:41 AM MST up reply actions
Look how wrong YOU are
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?
must be a Canadian thing.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 19, 2011 10:40 AM MST up reply actions
ew
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Did you ever find that phone bank?
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by Charlie77 on Dec 19, 2011 11:31 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Long time troller, First time poster...
you guys are fun to read!
How does Cuddyer profile defensively at 2b? I know he played there for the twins when they were in a ‘pinch.’ Feels like we’ve been a ‘pinch’ at 2b since 2007.
From an offensive standpoint – and assuming we don’t trade Smitty – it seems like this is our best lineup.
Dex (CF)
Smith (LF/RF)
Cargo (LF/RF)
Tulo (SS)
Cuddyer (2B)
Toddfather/Giambino (1B)
Pacheco/Arenado (3B)
Hernandez/Rosario © – one thing I’ve learned from trolling is that there’s a rule catchers not named Alfonzo bat 8th.
I like this lineup. Putting Cuddyer at 2B could be like playing Chauncey at 2 guard: maximizing offensive production. Can he do it?
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:02 AM MST reply actions
He profiles about as well at 2B
as any slow-footed, 30-something corner OF out there.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 19, 2011 9:05 AM MST up reply actions
that lineup violates a golden rule
2B must bat second.
Oh yeah.
I forgot. I’m new at this.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:08 AM MST up reply actions
Not going to lie
It’s making lurking on todays RP really confusing. For a while I thought you were arguing with yourself.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 19, 2011 10:23 AM MST up reply actions
I'm just glad
sniff someone sniff remembers me
by Purple Row Troll on Dec 19, 2011 10:55 AM MST up reply actions
I got your back.
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Only problem I have with that lineup...
is putting Cargo in LF/RF.
Maybe, just maybe if Tracy stopped moving Cargo all around the damn outfield he might get used to where he is and stop running wrist-first into walls?
Put him in left, leave him in left.
by WhiskeyDrinkingMan on Dec 20, 2011 7:50 PM MST up reply actions
Him running into walls
has nothing to do with not being used to a position.
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And put who in LF?
Giving up on Fowler?
by WhiskeyDrinkingMan on Dec 21, 2011 10:13 PM MST up reply actions
It's too bad, because...
dj lemahieu, jonny spark plug, chris nelson, ey, mora???? profile poorly in the batting order.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:06 AM MST reply actions
But profile much better on defense
Created or saved is a real stat in baseball, and whatever additional offense is created by Cuddles at 2B can be given away and then some on defense.
Whatever offense is given up by, say, DJ, can be gained back and then some on defense.
Oh no question, 2B is a gaping hole
But Cuddyer isn’t the solution. It would be enough of a defensive sacrifice putting him at 3B on a regular basis, let alone 2B. I don’t even like the idea of Pacheco at 2B, but he at least played there in college.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 19, 2011 9:11 AM MST up reply actions
Any way to trick the braves into this trade for Jurjjens/Prado?
Dex, Hammel, Blackmon, Matzek.
(maybe if we through enough Georgia guys their way they’ll bite, even though I know this violates two other rules – 1) trade smith, and 2) keep Dex)
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:11 AM MST reply actions
Both our lineup and rotation would improve...
How good can Blackmon/Matzek be? I say sell highish for a change…
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:13 AM MST up reply actions
Blackmon just cam off a major foot injury
and Matzek had an extremely disappointing season until August. That’d be the definition of selling low on both players.
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‘sell highish’ != ‘gross overpay’
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how would we be overpaying?
How high do you think the ceiling is for Matzek/Blackmon?
I think having Prado/Smith/Jurrjens in the lineup is better than Dex and Hammel.
That’s not ridiculous.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:25 AM MST up reply actions
Tyler Matzek is 19 years old and was the 11th overall pick in the draft. Provided the gains he made after going back to his old mechanics last year are the real thing – and I tend to think they are – his ceiling is incredibly high.
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Ceiling? Actually they are likely pretty close to each other.
Skaggs has a better chance of reaching his, that’s the big difference.
I hope you're right.
Unfortunately, I think he peaks as 4/5 starter or bullpen guy.
(I thought the same for Greg Reynolds, and don’t we have enough young arms to last us through 2030 anyway?)
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:30 AM MST up reply actions
We're stockpiling all the young arms
To use as food in the post-apocalyptic dystopia of 2030. Meanwhile, the Mets have just reworked their deal with Bobby Bonilla who will now be receiving cheques until 2115.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 12:15 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Point is
What possible reason is there AT THIS POINT not to trade that promise for a proven commodity that can vastly (IMO) improve our chances of doing something with this season?
by Purple Row Troll on Dec 19, 2011 9:48 AM MST up reply actions
If it's really that possible to, the Rockies should
but I’m guessing that Matzek right now falls into a category where other clubs that have interest in him will be trying to bottom feed on a buy low opportunity. The type of return we could expect in that circumstance will not “vastly” improve the team’s chances over the next two or three seasons. If Matzek starts the 2012 season like he finished 2011, though, that could change quickly.
Well, if you read my posts when I came on here
you’d understand that it’s supposed to be ironically humorous
/imtheuntroll
by Purple Row Troll on Dec 19, 2011 10:23 AM MST up reply actions
Ah, getting bitey eh
That’s more like it *pokes troll with stick
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This is mostly
due to my dislike of Jurrjens. He seems to live or die based on his LOB rate. The good years he has had he has stranded a freaky high number. Otherwise, he just isn’t a great pitcher. I’d almost rather have Hammel.
Hmmm.
I think I’d take Jurjjens. But okay, I’d do Dex for Prado straight up.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:31 AM MST up reply actions
I wouldn’t do that either. Big $$$ difference. We need speed in CF to cover Coors
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 19, 2011 9:33 AM MST up reply actions
If you could guarantee that we'd see struggling Dex
I’d be with you – but if he keeps up the greatness we saw in the 2nd half, I’m not sending Dex anywhere.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 19, 2011 10:07 AM MST up reply actions
truth.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 19, 2011 10:10 AM MST up reply actions
Tell that to OOTP
/wins the Cy Young in every sim ever.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 19, 2011 10:06 AM MST up reply actions
Except in PRMLB
/grumbles
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No they wouldn't
Your creating a much bigger hole in the lineup by trading Dex. Not only would we lose the only bat that profiles as a leadoff hitter, but it would mean that someone like Tim Wheeler would be forced into a starting role he may or may not be ready for.
And as for Jurjjens, he would improve the rotation a bit, but really, I’m very concerned about his production going forward.
I agree.
I don’t think the braves would do it.
BUT, we would definitely not be overpaying (from an objective, not Rox fan perspective)…
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:23 AM MST up reply actions
From an objective, not Rox fan perspective...
here’s why it would be an overpay/mistake:
1. Who plays CF or RF (Cargo could still fill one of the positions)?
2. Where would the money come from? Jurrjens and Prado have about $10-14M coming in salary next year. while only freeing up ~$8M.
3. You’re essentially trading OF depth (Blackmon) and cheap, young talent (Matzek, Blackmon, Dex) for two parts that by no means put the Rockies over the top.
4. What if Prado doesn’t rebound? Parts of his game have declined for three straight seasons (OBP, BB%).
Number three is my real concern.
good post.
But I think
1. Cargo plays CF
2. Dex is going to be more expensive in a few years, plus we’re trading 4 players for 2, eventually salaries will work out to about a wash.
3. There is always outfield depth available. I’d hate not to improve our lineup and rotation out of a fear that blackmon won’t be there as a back up OF. We have wheeler, garner, ey jr, chris… not too much of a difference there.
4. If Prado doesn’t rebound, this deal sux. But it sucked more not to trade for Michael Young last year, and we were saying the same things.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:37 AM MST up reply actions
As for your OF depth
EY may not make the team, Garner was released, Nelson cant play OF, leaving just Wheeler. Not THAT much depth…
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Mathes is close...
Jonny suposedly can field the corners. Colvin is around for more corner depth, the problem is CF after Cargo. I’d rather keep Blackmon to develope in CF and a potential leadoff than Wheeler
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Just stating the stated outfield depth.
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We do play in the NL West
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My blerg
if EY makes the team
DoD should be fired about 30 seconds after that’s announced.
we don’t have Garner, EYJ isn’t even a guaranteed MLB player, and Wheeler has zero time above AA on which to hang one’s hat regarding replacing Dex’s production.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:44 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
sorry, you're right
But, please. Outfield depth over improved rotation/lineup?
I think we can find a back up OF. Last I heard Spilly was a FA
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:46 AM MST up reply actions
It's not just OF depth
It’s cost effectiveness. Dex >> Prado. Jurrjens >> Hammel. And then we throw in two B prospects just for fun?
For fun, and...
for allstar 2b and last year a cy young candidate
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:50 AM MST up reply actions
Im also worried that Wheeler struggled in the AFL.
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by Charlie77 on Dec 19, 2011 11:34 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
And the second half of last year
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Need more information:
1. I see. Your lineup below is missing Helton. My mistake.
2/3. Prado and Jurrjens (both 2nd year arb this year) will similarly be more expensive from 2013 on, and will be FA sooner than Dex (1st year arb this year), Blackmon and Matzek. Thus, ~12 years of combined team control will be traded for four years of combined team control.
good point.
but, our team would be better.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:47 AM MST up reply actions
plus
we’re giving up control over blackmon/matzek.
not everyone can be a star. I say take a risk.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:48 AM MST up reply actions
I think you're missing the new FO strategy
acquire all the young arms, not trade them away.
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I got the memo.
I just wanted to try something different.
We have more young arms than the Mora family!!!!
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:52 AM MST up reply actions
Shhh
That’s Melvin’s ultimate retirement plan!
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by Oldfoagie on Dec 19, 2011 9:53 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Shame on you!
One of his kids was born without arms.
by Purple Row Troll on Dec 19, 2011 10:56 AM MST up reply actions
Wasn't refering to that one.
Think how proud Mel would be if multiple of his offsprinf follow Daddy’s footprints
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Double Shame!
Another was born without lower legs.
Jeez, way to be a jerk.
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I said I had your back...
Should I reconsider?
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A man born without limbs can still continue having a productive life.
Only a poor boob pays his money, loses his watch, gets the syph, and brags that he's had a good time.
by Surgeon Sage on Dec 19, 2011 11:11 AM MST up reply actions
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 12:17 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
I'm all for risk, but...
not if it means leaving a big, expensive hole to fill in a couple of years.
Hopefully, Cuddyer will not be playing RF full time in 2013. If he is, it’s probably going to severely cripple his overall value. Without Cargo AND Dex, the OF has a big hole. Plus, no Blackmon to potentially fill it and Smith will be a FA. After that, it’s basically Wheeler.
Hammel is a FA after this year, and Jurrjens after 2013. Ideally, Matzek would cheaply and ably fill a spot in 2014.
I haven’t turned over all the alternatives in your scenario, but it would seem to leave a big hole from 2014 forward.
We just spent 30+ mil on Cuddyer
I hope he can play full time.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:55 AM MST up reply actions
Unless he's replaceing Todd
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"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
True.
Then, I’ll take Wheeler, Smith, Cargo future and bank on our ability to find a back up OF somewhere. In the meantime, I think our new lineup/rotation would be a consistent playoff contender; and I don’t think giving up Dex/Hammel/Blackmon/Matzek prevents us from winning a championship in 2014. Jurjjens is 25, and already had cy young type season. Will Matzek do that in 4 years? Unfortunately, I don’t think so.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 10:01 AM MST up reply actions
Smith will be 30 years old
and isn’t getting any better at hitting LHP. He’s not a full time player next year or 2014.
And Jurrjens
was lucky in the first half – showed in the second half.
Quaking...
…at the thought of watching Tiny E flail around in the outfield for another year.
He plays it like I would play it if I was a better athlete and for some reason they called me out of the stands to play left.
I’m all hyped up to actually be playing…Ball hit right at me, I charge it, I realize its actually over my head, I sprint back as fast as I can but it’s actually about 6’ to my right, so I go into a desperate twirling dive missing it completely, spring to my feet and chase down the ball, wheel and fire an 80’ grounder not very close to the cutoff man. Then pat my chest and tell my teammates, “My bad”.
When I was a kid in the late 70’s it seemed every team had a spot on the roster for a pinch runner. That’s Tiny E’s position…
by WhiskeyDrinkingMan on Dec 20, 2011 8:03 PM MST up reply actions
That’s no trick. The Braves would mute the phone for twenty seconds while everybody in the room high-fived each other and whooped it up before getting back on the line and saying ‘Yeah, that sounds good’.
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Doesn't it improve both our lineup and rotation?
see below.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:32 AM MST up reply actions
Don't see it being realistic...
Hammel does nothing for the Braves, and Matzek’s in a very risky boat in the organization’s strongest area.
Realistically, if the Rockies were trying for both those players, the Braves would insist that the package include Arenado. There’s no reason to give up those two for less (or more, even if it does involve more guys). Then the talks would presumably end, as I don’t see the Rockies giving up Arenado under any circumstances.
If the Rockies deal w/ the Braves, it won’t be for both precisely for this reason. I think they could get either without including Arenado, but certainly not both.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
This is probably true.
Everyone here seemed to think the Rox shouldn’t do it, which doesn’t make sense to me.
I brought it up because maybe Braves would change tune if dex/blackmon were involved. They like those Georgia boyz.
How do you think it compares to what the Braves have discussed with the O’s?
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 4:16 PM MST up reply actions
I’ve had a hard time taking any of the Orioles rumors seriously, to be honest. They aren’t going to compete in the next two years, so adding either Jurrjens or Prado doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me.
The Jones asking price was ridiculous for his production. The lack of OBP is somewhat offset by DINGERZ, but he’s basically an above-average bat that gives it back on defense, making him a guy that’s slightly above league-average. He picks up a little WAR on baserunning, but most of his value comes from his durability. DRS paints a slightly different picture of his value, but last year kind of killed that as well.
The fact that Prado has out-hit Jones at a less advantageous home ballpark in the first place just makes me shake my head about the thought of the trade, especially if the O’s were thinking of a 2-for-1.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
my gut tells me it would be possible to work out a deal ‘centered’ around Dex for both Prado and Jurjjens without involving Arenado/Pom/Rosario.
I think that sort of deal would be worth it. I think saying Dex is off limits, limits our ability to create value (unless it’s a ploy to increase Dex’s value, in which case I support it).
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 4:51 PM MST up reply actions
I would still contend that the Braves would rather have Arenado than Dex, and thus would insist upon a deal centered around him. I didn’t realize he’s sitting at 2+ rather than 3 years service time, which improves his value quite a bit. They’d still be getting three years of him starting at center in addition to him in left during 2012. Might work.
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It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Rox won't give up Arenado
he’s the FO’s alternative to getting David Wright.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 5:11 PM MST up reply actions
then again...
they won’t give up fowler either.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 5:12 PM MST up reply actions
I'd do it.
Prado
Smith
Cargo
Tulo
Cuddyer
Arenado/Pacheco
Hernandez
is better than
Dex
Dj/jonny/chris
Cargo
Tulo
Cuddyer
Arenado/Pacheco
Hernandez
AND
Chacin
Jurjjens
Pom
White/ Millwood (til JDLR returns)
Nicasio
is better than
Chacin
Hammel
Pom
White
Nicasio
(I love Dex, Blackmon, Matzek… but I think I we all see them through purple glasses)
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:17 AM MST reply actions
I think you see Dex through some pessimistic glasses, actually.
The other two you probably have a bit of a fair point, but if you’d rather have Smith going forward than Fowler, you’re off track.
I totally agree here
But I still think that there is a large chance that Dex never turns it around. He is incredibly streaky, and I was originally surprised that he was not a part of the Ianetta, Smith, Stewart, Spilly trash being taken out. The Rockies must think 2nd half dex is the real one. I sincerely hope that they are right.
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That being said
He is way better than Smith. I love dex. I just have doubts
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I wouldn't
but, I would rather have combination of Smith/Prado/Jurjjens playing regularly than Hammel, Dex, Dj.
BTW, Rox Girl… I’m a big fan of your posts/articles. Respect.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:39 AM MST up reply actions
This is just an idea.... but sometimes it's good to think outside of the box
Plus this posting stuff is really fun. I should have been doing it all along.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:40 AM MST up reply actions
Sorry, I was wrong.
This is the worst troll ever. Unless he’s being sarcastic.
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This reminds me,
My 3 year old wanted to eat a Mustard sandwich yesterday.
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Get well soon Juan.
And this was problematic in some way?
It could have been worse…it could have been mayo.
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You spelled better wrong.
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this
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by Junction Rox on Dec 19, 2011 12:36 PM MST up reply actions
I hate all mayo.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Dec 19, 2011 12:48 PM MST up reply actions
unless it's a fancy Belian mayo for dipping frites in while you drink Belgian beer.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Dec 19, 2011 12:49 PM MST up reply actions
mlracle whlp ls why l don't
go to any more church banquets…every old lady brlngs some sort of dlsh slathered ln mracle whp or mayo….
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now that would be a nasty sandwich.
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Yes.
Yes it would.
I’m really craving a hot dog with all the fixins right now. My wife tried to feed me a vegan dog yesterday. The taste was close but the texture… well, I can’t say anything nice about the texture.
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Dinger can do it
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Because some people have issues loading the page if all the images are displayed.
The . in the subject line lets people hide those images.
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Where does the . go? Is that the entire subject line?
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yup
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by Purple Row Troll on Dec 19, 2011 11:13 AM MST up reply actions
how do you hide it?
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
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just click the subject or in this case the little period.
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The off-season sucks.
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works with all posts
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I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 11:23 AM MST up reply actions
I'll bet you...
the total WAR in my lineup/ rotation is better post trade than pre trade.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:42 AM MST up reply actions
assuming matzek doesn't become an ace
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that's right.
here’s to hoping he does
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:44 AM MST up reply actions
and Prado doesn't fall apart
and Jurrjens stays completely healthy.
it’s a lot of eggs in two baskets.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 11:52 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Just because...
Cargo could play CF doesn’t mean he should play CF.
Dex is the prototypical CF that the Rockies need for their big yard. He will barely be 26 when the season starts and absolutely seemed to turn the corner in the 2nd half last year. He is a phenomenal athlete that will only get better. Look at how different he looks now compared to when he first came up and his uniform was hanging off his body like the tallest Little League player you ever saw.
Besides he’s my wife’s favorite player. Dex is cool, he stays.
by WhiskeyDrinkingMan on Dec 20, 2011 8:14 PM MST up reply actions
I think the issue (or hope) on our part is that Fowler is 1. cheap and 2.had a fantastic second half last season after a brief stint in AAA. If he can repeat his last couple of months of 2011 for the majority of 2012, we’d be losing out in a deal for Prado.
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Me too. Plus hey, Dex is working out with Matt Kemp this offseason! Dividends!
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That's true!
hopefully they’re sharing the same Gatorade bottle
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:51 AM MST up reply actions
I think Dex is really starting to find himself in the MLB, realizes that he has the talent and now its going to be hard work that will carry him to success. I think he found himself 2nd half of last year and will continue to grow. I don’t want to give that up. Especially defensively in Coors/Petco/PacBell, he covers so much ground and does it effortlessly, and I think we forget how valuable that is
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 19, 2011 10:02 AM MST up reply actions
I just wish
He’d use two hands to catch the ball in Petco.
But you’re right. I still think Cargo could do the job fine.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 10:03 AM MST up reply actions
CarGo would do great no doubt, but also adds a lot of wear and tear on his legs and wrists
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 19, 2011 10:04 AM MST up reply actions
Am I all alone here?
does no one else think this improves our team? Are matzek/blackmon really THAT valuable?
Either way, thanks for the discussion… it obviously won’t happen so we’ll get to figure out how high the ceilings are.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:58 AM MST reply actions
Sure it has a significant chance of improving our team. But Dex has been deemed untouchable
The MLB team would be improved greatly, but all players involved in the deal come with large amounts of risk. It would just be odds as to who pans out. None of them are sure things. Dex is younger and cheaper so the rockies are likely to take their chances on him and matzek as opposed to Jurrjens and Prado
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Thanks. Good post.
But, jurjjens is only 25 and prado is only 28. They have plenty of gas in the tank.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 10:02 AM MST up reply actions
Not saying they don't
But PRado had a down year, and it is entirely possible that it was not an outlier. Jurrjens is also very injury prone. They have less team control, and will cost more. It’s a nice idea, and I wouldn’t be upset if it happened, but I don’t see it as likely
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I view it as something of a lateral move. We lose ~3 WAR from Dex, gain about 3 WAR from Prado. I also don’t really care much for Jurrjens. He’s better than Hammel but given that we’ll be playing Cuddyer in the OF I like having someone like Blackmon around.
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we also gain WAR
by keeping Smith in the lineup, and replacing Hammel with a pitcher who is better already with higher ceiling, who is only 25
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 10:05 AM MST up reply actions
Where are Smith, Cuddyer, and Helton playing then? I may have missed something but it doesn’t seem like there’s room. Cuddyer could play at 3b though Arenado could complicate that…
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It's just
That I feel you are over rating Prado and Jurrjins. They are not bad, but Dextor is better.
A counter proposal, trade Smith + Wheeler to Atlanta for Prado and a lower end prospect (I would love to get Tommy La Stella as a PTBNL).
And for pitching, my preference is to go after Sanchez from Florida.
La Stella Cant be traded yet I believe
I guess maybe he could go Pomeranz style
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 12:20 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
We might be on to a new nickname
When he starts hitting .320, with lots o dingerz we can have
Dextor and Teh LAZOR in the OF
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Matzek retains value only if he remains a Marshall pitcher and develops better command.
I don’t know how hard command is to retain as a Marshall pitcher and Niether does anyone else. I’m not saying I wouldn’t trade Dex; I would not trade both Dex and Blackmon at the same time
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Marshall pitcher???
/toolazytousegoogle
by Purple Row Troll on Dec 19, 2011 10:07 AM MST up reply actions
Former Dodgerrelief specialist tuened doctor has a radical different pitching motion he teaches to prevent injury or so he claims.
The pitches arrive from funny angles and have a different spin. The over the top pendulem motion is different enough and the strength exercises to maintain it defy convention enough that most don’t believe it or trust it.
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yea its kinda outside the box
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 19, 2011 10:15 AM MST up reply actions
I want to add when the Rox tried to wean Matzek from it he became lost and his stuff became pedestrian.
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I think it improves the 2012 team.
I think it turns to a neutral exchange in 2013 and makes the Rockies worse in 2014, though (I have little confidence in either Prado or Jurrjens maintaining their value long term) so that’s where I have issues. With all of the other team’s moves focused on 2013 to date, I think it would be unwise to shift that focus to a more immediate upgrade midstream.
by Rox Girl on Dec 19, 2011 10:05 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
2014 pitching staff
Pom
Chacin
Jurjjens
Nicasio
White/JDLR
I think we’re better off. IMO Matzek wouldn’t be in there
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 10:07 AM MST up reply actions
that's a decent point
I think our rotation and 2b spot make up for it… even down the road
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 10:09 AM MST up reply actions
Rox Girl
Do you think braves would do it?
Is it really a no brainer for them? I think it’s a good trade for both teams.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 10:11 AM MST up reply actions
I think it's a good deal for the Braves, yes.
I don’t think it’s that far a reach as others are saying, and if the Rockies were looking at a short term contention window, I’d think it would need to be given closer scrutiny.
Prado's already going to be 28 in 2012 (30 in 2014), and there's a high likelihood that 2011 will be a normal year for him at the plate going forward.
Cuddyer and Smith are also already in their declines as well, whereas Blackmon and Fowler are still ascending in their careers.
I think we wind up with an old, slow and painfully poor defense with your alignment.
I think Prado will start to decline at
32. maybe by then we could find a 2b.
Can Rutledge play 2b?
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 10:28 AM MST up reply actions
Prado already has started to decline.
Do not be so eager to believe the media hype excusing him for his play after the staph infection.
Or maybe he hasn't yet
Only time will tell on that. I think there is still a strong chance he rebounds.
You're correct about a strong chance for a rebound,
but he’s definitely started his decline. I don’t think the two categories are mutually exclusive.
I guess I'm just taking the meaning
of decline as in he will have a worse year next year than he did this year.
okay, so I should probably clarify my meaning about that.
What I’m saying is that the Rockies or any other team should not expect 2008-2010 Prado, and that 2011 Prado will occur more regularly for him going forward. Teams can probably hope for or expect something between Prado of last year and Prado of 2010 in 2012.
it really sounds like the FO views Bettis as a bullpen piece
a strong AA can sway their minds, but for now that’s where he stands.
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it's definitely a strong possibility.
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It's a possibility, yes
It has been since he was drafted. But I haven’t seen any indication that the team believes him to be a reliever. I know Renck mentioned that he could wind up in the pen in the bigs this year, but thats not uncommon for top pitching prospects to do.
It could be that the Rockies might look more into the Rangers model,
I’d be in favor of that, but Muzia’s right that there are signals that Bettis and Chatwood both might be destined to the pen for a longer duration than just their rookie call-up period.
If Bettis is destined for the pen
He’s become more expendable in a trade from my POV. Specifically, in a trade for a SP.
If Bettis is destined to the pen
That means the Rockies’ system is without any decent minor league starter prospects above A level. That would be sad. I think Bettis will remain a SP almost by default (altough his results to day also justify it) because there’s just no one else to fill that role beyond the “stockpile all arms” collection of 5th-starter candidates (Pom excluded) who’ll be given looks in ST.
Pomeranz
White
Scahill
Cabrera
Gardner
Not quite.
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I'd classify Scahill-Cabrera-Gardner
as all “maybe a 5th starter” candidates. Bettis has a higher ceiling than that.
White looked like the next Felipe Paulino at the end of 2011, but maybe he gets a mulligan due to coming-back-fron-injury status. I’m not quite giving up on him yet, but he’s extremely unimpressive so far.
I misinterpreted your "decent" phrase then
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Cabrera's the only one on your list
with anything but ho-hum minor league numbers. Scahill & Gardner aren’t bad, but nowhere near Bettis level. Cabrera’s K’s/IP and WHIP are good, but a 23 yr old who has his velocity & spends most of the year in low A ball should rack up good numbers. And he’s behind Bettis in the pecking order, at least for now. I presume he’ll be in Tulsa this year & will have to really impress to stay on the starting pitcher track himself. I think he’s more likely than Bettis to “go bullpen.”
How I probably should have phrased it is that the Rockies’ org. doesn’t really have any standout starting pitching prospects between Bettis and the “stockpiled young arms” being considered for 2012 (not all of whom are going to pan out), so they should be reticent about moving him to the pen..
i'm hardly a joe gardner fan, but
his GB% make him arguably a standout prospect
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He could be the "next Cookie" alright
But his WHIP is pretty high (1.45) & his K’s are pretty low (60 in 97.1 IP).
Send him to the Springs & see if he can keep it down, I suppose.
Bettis probably will continue to start in the minors this season,
but if the pitching breaks at all in an ideal fashion for the Rockies in 2012, he’ll have to be moved to the bullpen by the end of the year or traded, because there just won’t be a decent spot to put him otherwise, and he’ll be an upgrade for the pen we project right now.
Hopefully, an Anderson or Matzek or somebody rises to take his place on the AA list heading into 2013, but I’m not too worried about that at this point. It’s best to focus on what’s best for the MLB team, not Tulsa.
If the Rockies rotation
is too crowded to have room to try out a good minor league starter, that would be a nice problem to have.
But for a team that finished the most recent season with Kevin Milwood as its ace, we’re a long, long, can’t-see-it-from-here way away from reaching that point.
It makes more sense to me to expect White to stick in the rotation than project that Bettis will climb past him
White has the better stuff for a starter and was more proven in the minors at a younger age than Bettis is to date. If Bettis cruises through the TL without a significant drop in his K’s and other peripheral stats then he’ll probably have a better case, but right now, Bettis projects behind him as a starter, but would be a potent bullpen asset.
Agreed.
White gets a mulligan … I think he can be a solid 3-4.
by Traindogger on Dec 19, 2011 12:28 PM MST up reply actions
I don't really know what to make of White
Good minor league credentials & supposedly recovered from injury when brought up in the late season, then … total disaster. I look at him kind of like the Major League roster counterpart of Matzek: OK, this guy’s supposed to be very good, but what’s wrong with him?
Maybe nothing, and maybe he gets back on his projectible track in ST, but he was so bad in late 2011 that I’m reluctant to really count on him for 2012. I keep seeing people plug him in their likely rotations as an unquestioned 2012 starter, and I think there are some very big question marks about him. Starting with, is his sinker going to sink this year? Because it didn’t at the end of last year.
It is way to early to think of White as anything but
a Middle of the Rotation Pitcher at worse. He will be fine…. (he better be because that package the Padres got for Latos is making our Ubaldo package look like crap if White is anything but a solid number 2)
It's Jim Tracy's Fault.
No kidding.
I was stunned what the Reds gave up.
And you’r he’d-better-be-good analysis of White as a key component of the Ubaldo trade is right on target. It’s part of what makes him so hard to evaluate for me. The possibility of him being a Jason Hirsh/Tim Redding (high picks, great minor league stats, Major League busts) type is so scary to contemplate that it may color peoples’ analysis of him.
O'Dowd himself mentioned him as a potential bullpen piece in teh conference call last week
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 11:15 AM MST up reply actions
I definitely read that as
O’Dowd mentioned himself as a potential bullpen piece in teh conference call last week
by Purple Row Troll on Dec 19, 2011 11:24 AM MST up reply actions
Piece of what, though?
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Dec 19, 2011 11:26 AM MST up reply actions
He'd be better than Felipe Paulino was
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 11:31 AM MST up reply actions
I'd be better than Felipe Paulino
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Felipe Paulino would be too.
(now that he’s no longer a Rockie)
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Dec 19, 2011 12:21 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
at what, being mishandled by the organization?
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 12:22 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Was he so mishandled as to not
be helpful to the Rockies at all? I mean it could be argued that FrankieMo was mishandled too I do know for a fact I can’t throw a 100 mph heater into the 3rd deck.
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Does he have an out pitch?
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Dec 19, 2011 12:38 PM MST up reply actions
That's going to be one of the most interesting 2012 stories to watch unfold on the Rockies farm
I see this going either way right now.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 19, 2011 10:17 AM MST up reply actions
only got 2 pitches
tough to be a good starter with only two pitches
arenado: it's Rockie for future
If I thought Colvin's 2011 and Dex's second half
were just mirages, I would do it. And, there’s a possibility that both are true. But you have to act on the latest info you have, and that was Colvin being terrible and Dex looking unlike anything we’ve ever seen from him before. That’s what makes it a tough move.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 19, 2011 10:22 AM MST up reply actions
last info I had
Jurjjens + Prado + Smith is better than Hammel + Dex + ? 2b… No way this doesn’t improve team for 2012 and 2013. Personally, I think our future wouldn’t be hurt that much either.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 10:30 AM MST up reply actions
Ceiling(Jurjjens + Prado + Smith) > Floor(Hammel + Dex + 2B Merry go round of terror)
Ceiling (Jurjjens + Prado + Smith) <<<<<< Ceiling(Hammel + Dex + 2B MGRoT)
I’d rather keep a hole at 2B and count on Dexter being an all-star caliber CF this season than trade him away and count on Prado rebounding and Jurjjens not regressing. Now Smith, on the other hand, is a known quantity and I’m willing to move him to fix the hole at second.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 19, 2011 10:34 AM MST up reply actions
I don't think your proposal is outrageous
I just think Dex’s second half makes it awfully hard to part with him right now. It’s tempting sell high but my goodness, he looked like a serious MLB stick for the first time ever. Not just a guy who might be able to lead off, but a player you could hit almost anywhere in the lineup.
Maybe it won’t stick, but I wanna find out.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 19, 2011 10:43 AM MST up reply actions
trading prospects for questionable veterans
is not an idea likely to gain traction ’round these parts.
2014 OF
Cargo
Smith
Cuddyer/Wheeler
(with Prado still at second)
I think that’s better than
Cargo
Dex
Blackmon
with ? at second.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 10:08 AM MST reply actions
Because he'd be playing at first, where he'd be a better fit.
Which is why that move would definitely hurt come 2014.
It's very possible that Prado's career began a nosedive last season
Just look what happened to his LD%. He may have already peaked and might not be so useful in 2014.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 19, 2011 10:22 AM MST up reply actions
this is what I've said,
and added to the interest of the Braves in moving him, I think teams should approach a deal with low expectations from him.
Eh, that was partly due to that staph infection
I would still pay big for Prado. I wouldn’t do the trade as ‘troller’ proposes it, but I’d still give till it hurts to get Prado on this team.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 19, 2011 10:24 AM MST up reply actions
The Blue Jays once blamed young Alex Rios' lack of an MVP in 2006 on a staph infection.
but it turned out, he really was just a streaky hitter. I think Prado’s staph infection is used too much as an excuse and keeps people from scrutinizing his 2011 for what it likely it is, the start of his decline.
If we don't trade for a pitcher...
we will have a staff infection
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 10:31 AM MST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind trading for Jurrjens or Prado,
I just think you give up too much with both Fowler and Blackmon in the package.
Personally, I would do it.
But I understand your concern. I suggested it as something Braves might be interested in. I don’t think we could do it for anything less.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 10:34 AM MST up reply actions
RG, are you defining a streaky hitter as:
1) a good hitter who has periods where, through lack of confidence/form/application/injury, he hits poorly (and, if you believe in it, is clutch at other times)
or
2) a hitter whose hitting is definied by the laws of probability and will therefore always have hot and cold patches
or
3) something else?
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Most often, 1 will be the definition when I use the term.
Rios and Ian Stewart are two examples of talent that for whatever reason doesn’t get applied all the time in real game situations, causing larger spreads in their variability than the usual player (definition 2.)
He's only one year removed from being a very solid hitter
and he happens to play two positions at which this team has gaping holes. I don’t want to sell the whole farm to get Prado, but he would bring a lot of value. Who on Earth are we going to acquire if it’s not someone about whom there are ‘in decline’ whispers?
by Northsider1964 on Dec 19, 2011 10:39 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Murphy's knees
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
Well, that's why everybody's on board with getting Prado.
But it’s generally unwise to give up multiple MLB players that are nearing their peaks for one that’s declining. It’s not the player that’s an issue, but the price suggested.
Garrett Atkins was only 28 once.
Prado’s prime years could already be behind him, and I think they likely are.
I am this close to starting Garrett Atkins in PRMLB.
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Swings age better when you have good plate coverage
Prado doesn’t gift-wrap the outer half every time he steps in the box, the way Atkins did.
My one concern with Prado is that 2B is a young man’s position, and he may be limited to 3B about the same time Arenado is turning the corner. At that point, he’s a lot less valuable.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 19, 2011 10:59 AM MST up reply actions
And I agree there
I’m not saying Prado at any price, just that I think he’s really worth staying after.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 19, 2011 10:45 AM MST up reply actions
Have you ever considered the possibility
that troller is just a Braves fan concocting the most epic baseball troll ever? Huh? Have you?
by Purple Row Troll on Dec 19, 2011 10:59 AM MST up reply actions
fight fight fight fight fight!
arenado: it's Rockie for future
I thought that's where you came from...
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Dec 19, 2011 11:01 AM MST up reply actions
Well
I was a Braves fan growing up… In Nebraska… Till my dad got me a Rockies shirt in 1993…
by Purple Row Troll on Dec 19, 2011 11:04 AM MST up reply actions
Unfortunately
I think our 2b position has already peaked; we’re in a permanent nose dive
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 10:33 AM MST up reply actions
I don't know if much lower than last season is really possible on that front.
It would take some pretty massive futility on our part to not get better.
the definition of insanity
the same cycle at 2b every year thinking it will get better
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 10:40 AM MST up reply actions
Is Jayson Nix still in shape?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 19, 2011 10:40 AM MST up reply actions
Remember when...
Ey jr for Michael Young was ACTUALLY being considered
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 10:40 AM MST up reply actions
I think Blackmon was involved as well
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 11:16 AM MST up reply actions
Danne Neagle can play second right?
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He's a lefty
Lefties can only play RF or 1B
by WanderingRoxFan on Dec 19, 2011 12:06 PM MST up reply actions
No... he got to second
in the back seat of a car
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 10:43 AM MST reply actions
welcome to the row.
Sorry it’s so hard to navigate.
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just hit the little "reply" button.
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exactly!
/claps
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4. Nieves hails from the Latin country to the south known as, you guessed it, Puerto Rico
when did puerto rico become a country?
arenado: it's Rockie for future
The World Ballball Classic thinks it's a country
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 19, 2011 10:54 AM MST up reply actions
the WBC is wrong
arenado: it's Rockie for future
4 minutes after the Rockpile was posted.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Dec 19, 2011 10:55 AM MST up reply actions 4 recs
awesome
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the death of Kim-jong il must be so distracting the world,
that puerto rico can just declare independence without anybody noticing
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Their name implies they have plenty of money
it’s more surprising they didn’t declare independence sooner
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Little known fact...
4 minutes before the declaration of independence was signed, Thomas Jefferson posted a rockpile
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 11:02 AM MST up reply actions
nice name troll
Can I take credit for your posts?
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 11:05 AM MST up reply actions
i must still be drunk
this is great
arenado: it's Rockie for future
join the club.
I’m a lesbian wiener lover.
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I could totally be a lesbian
but i’m a dude
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 11:10 AM MST up reply actions
Maria? please coumcil him on Identity issuses...
I don’t have the time.
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I dunno-
Their handwriting is similar.
But they’d have to be posting on separate browsers, which would probably be really hard, but props if it pulled it of.
But for now I say innocent until proven guilty. Or whatever.
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 11:21 AM MST up reply actions
Nope
"Some guy on the net thinks I suck, and he should know - he's got his own blog." - Nick Hornby
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 11:21 AM MST up reply actions
Seeing as you've already made *this* happen:
Not going to lie
It’s making lurking on todays RP really confusing. For a while I thought you were arguing with yourself.
by Purple Row Troll on Dec 19, 2011 11:08 AM MST up reply actions
you had it first
want me to change?
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 11:09 AM MST up reply actions
This should work fine
I argue with myself a lot anyway
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 11:11 AM MST up reply actions
OT: We've got over a foot of snow here on the ground in Grants New Mexico
63 today, 62 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
you live in new mexico?
for some reason i always had you pegged as like nebraska or iowa or something. weird
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Me? Oh HELL NO!
Maybe being born in Oklahoma has something to do with it.
63 today, 62 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
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by Roxman4ever on Dec 19, 2011 11:14 AM MST up reply actions
but yes, I live in New Mexico
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by Roxman4ever on Dec 19, 2011 11:15 AM MST up reply actions
New Mexico: Now 33% cleaner than old Mexico.
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
Luftfeuchtigkeitsregler über alles.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 19, 2011 1:08 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
But pretty much lust as poor
(went to college in NM)
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@Paul_Franz
My blerg
lust = just
or, you know, lust
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My blerg
Um. Not me. I make a good living.
63 today, 62 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
Oh, I mean the state as a whole.
Being in Santa Fe is plenty of evidence that people can do fine in New Mexico. The state itself, however, is a bit of a mess.
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DO'D is only one trade away from the Finish.
Grab three or four of the 2B/3B/OF contenders, from our AAAA team as Rox Girl put it, and trade for Wandy Rodriguez. Houston needs depth. Throw in a A-level prospect, if needed. The time is now.
We should pencil in Arenado for 3B and Young for 2B, who leads off. While we may have to shake our heads on occasion re defense, you can’t have everything.
With Wandy Rodriguez in the mix, Rox will do just fine.
nice idea
but i don’t think we have the money for wandy anymore, since we’ve decided to pay the human cork $11m
arenado: it's Rockie for future
could we get Lowrie?
63 today, 62 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
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by Roxman4ever on Dec 19, 2011 11:15 AM MST up reply actions
Um.
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Dont even start. I know the answer
63 today, 62 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
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by Roxman4ever on Dec 19, 2011 11:16 AM MST up reply actions
tough for him to start
considering he’s about to give up
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Anyone know what the 25/40
look like right now? If so, and sufficiently bored, care to post them?
by Purple Row Troll on Dec 19, 2011 11:13 AM MST reply actions
well, 25 is closed from Las Vegas to the Colorado state line. 40 is snow packed. Here is a link for you.
63 today, 62 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
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by Roxman4ever on Dec 19, 2011 11:16 AM MST up reply actions
well played
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Have I missed something?
63 today, 62 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
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by Roxman4ever on Dec 19, 2011 11:17 AM MST up reply actions
he means the 25-and 40-man roster
but you answered with something that was also applicable given the vagueness of his wording. so, well played
arenado: it's Rockie for future
I thought about that after some thinking.
63 today, 62 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
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by Roxman4ever on Dec 19, 2011 11:19 AM MST up reply actions
hahaha nice.
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 11:22 AM MST up reply actions
And now it's closed all the way through Pueblo
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Go to
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 11:18 AM MST up reply actions
whoa, did your phone break?
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Prepping in the office before my drive
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 11:19 AM MST up reply actions
oh, good
i was almost worried
arenado: it's Rockie for future
.
Thanks- “database error” when I tried it, but nonetheless, thanks for the link.
by Purple Row Troll on Dec 19, 2011 11:27 AM MST up reply actions
aw crap we signed Atkins.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 19, 2011 11:27 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
his cankles brought the site down.
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Oh come on Greg
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 11:30 AM MST up reply actions
Not having any issues for me.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 19, 2011 12:53 PM MST up reply actions
Hotmail working fine
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Hotmail?
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 19, 2011 12:55 PM MST up reply actions
Old meme
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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Scary.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 19, 2011 1:01 PM MST up reply actions
it was down for me this morning as well
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 12:56 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Blakebomber is in charge of all that stuff.
I just keep the website up to date. :D
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 19, 2011 1:01 PM MST up reply actions
works for me
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Adios Amigos...
Gotta shift to pull and laundry to do first
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Gotta go too...
thx for letting me join in….the row isn’t that exclusive after all.
c u around.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 11:35 AM MST up reply actions
We're slipping!
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once you let in a talking
hot dog it really is hard to be exclusive.
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Hey,
We let you in before you turned into a talking hotdog.
Then you had to post that picture.
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 11:41 AM MST up reply actions
Yes we are
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just got tix for June 10th game for my pops for christmas
for the Pujols/Iannetta world tour. Iannetta is headlining.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 19, 2011 11:26 AM MST reply actions
Wouldn't it suck
if they both got injured and it was Melvin Mora and Will Nieves instead?
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you mean like the Rox traded Nieves for CJ Wilson?
naw, wouldn’t suck to bad.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 19, 2011 11:28 AM MST up reply actions
I think I'll be there too.
Out of all of the players we dumped, CDI is going to be the one who can really take off in his new digs. The AL really works well with his offensive style, and Scioscia should help him with this defense and catching skills.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 19, 2011 11:28 AM MST up reply actions
I'd be surprised if he did better in 2012 than he did in 2011.
Splits.
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 19, 2011 12:10 PM MST up reply actions
That was the gift I planned to give my two bosses for Christmas
two club level tix each to go with their sons. but the level was sold out the day the tix went on sale
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 11:54 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
There's an android app?!
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 12:03 PM MST up reply actions
he must be testing it as i dont see one in the market
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by purplesocks on Dec 19, 2011 12:34 PM MST up reply actions
For the 10th?
There’s still club available. Was it just the presale that was sold out?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 19, 2011 12:24 PM MST up reply actions
I like being able to choose exact seats now
but the system is always slow for me and I don’t love how it’s set up, the changing between sections is weird.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 19, 2011 12:31 PM MST up reply actions
not sure the actual date
just know Angels. there were some club seats open further towards the outfield
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 12:34 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
yeah, i was looking today and it looked like you could get club infield for the 10th.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 19, 2011 1:44 PM MST up reply actions
Is the Wandy Talk dead?
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
What is left on Wandys deal? 3/36?
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
by waterboy31321 on Dec 19, 2011 1:01 PM MST up reply actions
Astros have seemed more willing to take salary back if they trade him now...
Not that the Rockies have any real bad contracts on their books left to trade, save perhaps the one they just signed, according to many.
Mike Hampton?
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 19, 2011 1:12 PM MST up reply actions
no no RG,
it’s not that we think it’s a bad contract, it’s that it is a bad contract
arenado: it's Rockie for future
You haven't learned to hedge much, have you.
So so certain. Just as long if you prove wrong, you don’t try to come back later and say “It was a bad contract at the time, how could anybody have seen Cuddyer being that productive…” or however you’ll want to phrase the standard “I was right if you only consider what I knew” argument that seems to be favored by stubborn SABR writers, I have no problem with your certainty here.
good
let’s get RIRF to make a note in his “very long term” folder for this
arenado: it's Rockie for future
I know so
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 19, 2011 1:09 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I know someone who, for the longest time, thought it was Juan D. Rodriguez
/no, it wasn’t me
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 19, 2011 1:11 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
It may have been me. Or if not, that someone is definitely not alone.
I still think of him as Juan D.
Wow... the D-backs were once hoping to sign Kuroda or Joe Saunders,
but are instead going to use that money to sign Kubel and potentially Aaron Cook.
That’s only a smidgen off the value of their original intention, right? Because this way they get two players instead of just one pitcher.
this offseason has been bad
arguably for the whole division
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 12:35 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
latos deal was pretty good for the padres
cahill deal was pretty good for the dbacks
arenado: it's Rockie for future
padres have been the best for sure
really don’t like dodgers/giants/Rockies at first glance. I like the Cahill deal for Arizona too, but i could see it imploding on them.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 12:38 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Padres lost Hoyer, gained Byrnes. They lost Heath Bell, and gained Huston Street.
They lost Mat Latos, and gained Edinson Volquez.
They may yet lost Nick Hundley for Yasmani Grandal and lose Anthony Rizzo for Yonder Alonso.
I really don’t know if they’ve done anything at all to improve yet. I’d say the D-backs have the best so far, but taking the step backwards today really eats into their earlier gains.
But they should have a nice return for Rizzo, at least
maybe Hundley too (honestly don’t know his situation)?
I think Alonso fits better at 1B in Petco than Rizzo, just because of his style of hitting. I’d expect him to pound the gaps, while Petco was always likely to eat up a bunch of Rizzo’s deep flies. If there’s still a strong market out there for Rizzo, the Pads could make out very well in that deal.
And there’s always the possibility that they win the Schmidt/Street deal too… lol
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Dec 19, 2011 12:48 PM MST up reply actions
The Rockies could still get something for Smith, the D-backs something for Parra or Chris Young
You can’t count any potential move as money in the bank, though. The total return of SD’s moves so far have them going backward in 2012 and probably 2013 as well.
oh definite backward step for the Pads in 2012
I was speaking more on total terms. and I don’t like the Reds package as much as most, largely due to thinking Alonso isn’t that special
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 12:54 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Petco Promise
stockpile young potential, wait til they are a young talent, trade young talent for more young potential
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 19, 2011 1:02 PM MST up reply actions
I like Alonso, to an extent...
He’s not special, but he’s not bad. I don’t think Rizzo’s that special, either, though, so I really don’t know which I’d rather keep. Either would have been fine for a Helton replacement short term, but I don’t know if they’re that much an upgrade over a Matthes-type.
To give up a Latos and not get back any player with a 6 WAR ceiling (like a Pomeranz) doesn’t really cut it for me. At first, I saw that move as a win for the Padres too (probably because I don’t know if Latos will reach his ceiling with his head up his butt,) but the more I look at it, the less I like it from their end. Maybe I’m underestimating Grandal, but there just doesn’t seem to be that Carlos Gonzalez/Drew Pomeranz./Jarrod Parker type of upside player in this deal for them.
There has to be something that is promising in Alonso as much as he has been talked about with 10+ teams. And Volquez was a r4.8WAR pitcher once.
I’m not saying Alonso is great, because I don’t have time/get paid to watch minor league tape of Alonso, but there has to be something there being as that he is talked about that much and Matthes has not been rumored to be in any trade that would bring somethign back of value
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 19, 2011 1:10 PM MST up reply actions
Promising, sure, but not that promising.
The reason so many teams had trade interest in Alonso had as much to do with Joey Votto as it did with him. He was seen as a young, MLB worthy player that the Reds would have to move at some point. Given how reluctant teams are to give up prospects, that trade certainty alone made him worth something.
While possible, Volquez reaching that WAR figure again is extremely unlikely at this point, but he could be a decent starter or late reliever if he gets his command back.
alonso >>>>>> mathes
arenado: it's Rockie for future
you think so highly of matthes as to rate him as not far inferior to alonso?
he could be their opening day 1B next year (and should), while matthes will be tulsa, trying to figure out how to draw a walk
arenado: it's Rockie for future
from what I understand, that's about all that separates them right now on offense.
The other thing being that Matthes has more power than Alonso, which is usually considered important for 1B. Matthes actually can play in the OF for real too, and not just pretend at it, which gives him an edge on the other side as well.
The most interesting thing about Matthes is that he put up those numbers last year in a park that on paper should have hurt his production.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 19, 2011 1:39 PM MST up reply actions
old for the level
but video game numbers are still video game numbers, I guess.
Tulsa will be the big “show me” for Matthes
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I saw him hit 3 HR's in a game this year..
in a park at elevation with the wind blowing out 20mph. The CAL league in some places is good for the hitting business.
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almost all his home runs were hit on the road
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Even his doubles were suppressed at home
His SLG% was nearly .200 points higher on the road. I’m certainly not suggesting we take those numbers at face value, but I do think his actual production last season was even a little better than his home numbers indicate.
Whether or not he can continue to put up those types of numbers as he moves up is the big question now.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 19, 2011 1:55 PM MST up reply actions
they're also only 3 months apart in age
huge credit to alonso there
arenado: it's Rockie for future
that is true
I still think Alonso’s better for that, but since there’s no higher level that he can go to, that credit only shrinks going forward and could disappear altogether at some point in the next 10 months.
If Arizona crashes back to Earth next season
It’s possible that 2012 could be 2008 all over again (only with more than two teams right around the 82-85 win mark).
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 19, 2011 1:13 PM MST up reply actions
I don't know why you'd throw Saunders and Kuroda in that first sentence, as it seems Kuroda will be much more expensive than Saunders anyway..
But about the signing, what happens to Parra? 4th OF? Huh. Kinda dumb if you ask me, as Parra is young and just put together a great season. Also very good defensively, while Kubel… yea.
@DylanZable
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 19, 2011 1:13 PM MST up reply actions
I throw them in together because Nick Piecoro, their beat reporter and Jerry Crasnick both did.
Still, re-signing only Saunders (let alone Kuroda) would have been a better move for them than this Kubel plus Cook plan. That was my point.
To be fair to AZ
They did have an offer out there to Kuroda for a week and a half and he never got back to them. And they did pick up Cahill so it isn’t like they took a loss in SP.
I like Parra but that team could use Kubels left handed power, so I do get the move on their part.
So what happens with Parra?
Dude just won a GG. And almost hit .300 as a 24 year old.
I think he’s going to be traded…
@DylanZable
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 19, 2011 1:26 PM MST up reply actions
kubel is an atrocious defender though
while parra is basically a second CF for arizona…. the difference in their defense, as well as their ages, makes this a bad deal
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Parra is arguably more valuable than Kubel right now.
So I agree.
@DylanZable
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 19, 2011 1:35 PM MST up reply actions
They still have Parra for those times they need his defense
But they could probably get away with some crappy left field defense when half their games are at Chase Field.
I’d personally prefer Parra too but I do think Kubel fits.
No I understood your point and agreed with it (FWIW)
I was just curious about the Kuroda/Saunders piece, as I think Kuroda is in higher demand than Saunders, who will come cheaper.
@DylanZable
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 19, 2011 1:27 PM MST up reply actions
Take that list with a grain of salt
Disclaimer – I did not attend any minor league games this year, nor do I claim to have any scouting experience. These lists are the product of my own research of statistics and online scouting reports.
Sooooo
Youk?
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I would welcome him as well, if we had a place to put him
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
by waterboy31321 on Dec 19, 2011 3:06 PM MST up reply actions
My question is What are the Angels going to do with all their players?
1) They offered arb to Morales for $3 mil, so they must think hes coming back which makes him the DH
2) OF, Includes Bourjas, Wells, Hunter, Abreu (also DH), and Trout fairly soon
3) 3B is Callaspo, they say Trumbo can play 3B, if so Callaspo is expendable
Currently have Abreu, Trumbo, Callaspo and only 3B open
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 19, 2011 3:27 PM MST up reply actions
Abreu, Trumbo, Callaspo, and Morales for DH and 3B is basically what I meant
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 19, 2011 3:30 PM MST up reply actions
Oops......

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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 19, 2011 4:18 PM MST reply actions
Baha
They’re thinking of the other guy that used to play for the Twins.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 19, 2011 4:21 PM MST up reply actions
Who DOESN'T look good in that hat?
Please no Wiggy pics. Please?
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
Do you think this is the first time...
an article about Wil Nieves generated over 500 comments?
Can you imagine how many comments we would have if we had signed Kubel?
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 4:26 PM MST reply actions
Are any of the comments even about Wil Nieves?
It’s unfair to say that article generated over 500 comments. We’re just a talkative bunch.
@DylanZable
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 19, 2011 4:27 PM MST up reply actions
That was because of Nieves too!
congrats to PR (puerto rico, not purple row). It had been a long time coming.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 4:34 PM MST up reply actions
Kubel couldn't have done it...
that’s why Nieves is deserving of more comments.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 4:38 PM MST up reply actions
Is it sad that it took me a few minutes & a google search to realize Puerto Rico didn't declare independence?
I can’t get it right. I thought Kim Jong Il might’ve been a joke
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Well, Twitter said Jon Bon Jovi died.....
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In other patriotic news...
The Nationals just signed Mike Cameron
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 4:41 PM MST up reply actions
I'm starting to think this guy
is going to play for every team in the MLB before he retires. And if so, good for him!
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He's in a foot race
with Wiggy… (maybe the only race wiggy can win)
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 4:46 PM MST up reply actions
If so, the Rockies should trade for him now.
His wRC+ isn’t going to look pretty when he’s in his 50s.
Pujols' looks pretty good...
and he’s already in his 50s.
/don’t tell angels
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 5:17 PM MST up reply actions
i don't know if i should rec this or flag it
arenado: it's Rockie for future
And because Miracle Whip sucks
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This Cliff Corcoran SI.com piece suggests the Rox as the best fit for:
Aaron Miles, Ryan Theriot, Casey Blake, and Wilson Betemint. Not one of them. All of them. With Miles/Theriot and Blake/Betemint each operating as platoons at 2B and 3B respectively.
Yikes.
Just a small town kid who thinks Coors Field on a sunny summer Saturday night is the best place to be on this or any other plane of existence. When a late-inning Todd Helton go-ahead homerun is added to this scenario, my brain melts.
Stockpiling...
young arms and old middle infielders.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 4:53 PM MST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind signing Casey Blake, even if it means he rides pine.
At least that way he won’t continue to kill the Rockies. New FO strategy should be to sign all Rox killers… Loney, I’m looking at you next.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 5:01 PM MST up reply actions
Betemit
I’d bring him in as he’s got some pop to his bat and if the Rockies think Arrenado could be ready at some point this season he could be a decent stopgap and then valuable bench guy.
+1
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A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
Why does this name make me think of vegamite?
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Bizarre hivemind there.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 19, 2011 7:34 PM MST up reply actions
Did you really hivemind?
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Yes.
I was about to post that link. I was in the process of finding it.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 19, 2011 7:36 PM MST up reply actions
And I was going to write:
“She just smiled and gave me a Betemit sandwich.”
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 19, 2011 7:38 PM MST up reply actions
Okay that is the weirdest hivemind yet....
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Miles
I’d bring him in because he is so cute (also great story… the 28 year old rook).
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 5:08 PM MST reply actions
Wait, are you worried about the HAR in 2012? I know I am
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Soryr make that tHAR
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teamHAR
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I think that's was PiP more sabrworthy specificity at work there
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Nice.
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 5:32 PM MST up reply actions
HAR is a Purple Row-trademarked stat.
Stands for hotness (or handsomeness, your pick) above replacement.
YES!
We’re in trouble… we lost Street.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 5:14 PM MST up reply actions
And Stewart, and Iannetta, and possibly might lose Smith.
But hey- we lost Wiggy!
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 5:33 PM MST up reply actions
If we pick up Mora...
we’re really in trouble.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 5:34 PM MST up reply actions
no, but
my gf is REALLY upset about Street. Let’s just say I get to see more games if we have good tHAR.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 5:40 PM MST up reply actions
Tim Wheeler would help.
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eh
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 5:46 PM MST up reply actions
Are you licensed in HAR-removal?
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I think you would fit in great at 2b
Do you mind hitting second in the order? It’s a prerequisite.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 5:49 PM MST up reply actions
Is HAR appreciation limited to females?
I sure hope not.
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by SDcat09 on Dec 19, 2011 5:43 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
You sound like that episode of New Girl
Are you ok?
….Yeah, are you ok?
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No, its not.
Just don’t find it common having males comment on HAR.
Avalance 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
That's precisely why HAR stand for Handsomeness Above Replacement, not hotness.
According to Pipgraphs, that is.
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 6:23 PM MST up reply actions
Alanna is really part of bHAR (broadcaster HAR)
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Which makes sense,
since broadcasters should have their own, because they are usually below replacement level.
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 6:27 PM MST up reply actions
Kirk Herbstreet disagrees
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Usually though
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JFK
Greg Amsinger,
Matty V,
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That's 3 out of 60ish
And that doesn’t include the ESPN and Fox guys.
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JFK
Don't you SSS me Mister
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Not a SSS
just a low HAR%, therefore the usually comment above still applies. These guys are exceptions to the statement.
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JFK
The more I drink the better looking they get
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Oh oh Harold Reynolds!
good HAR
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Prado...
could fill in the HAR gap at second. The ladies love him.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
If we want to improve HAR, we should just sign this guy
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by Resolution on Dec 19, 2011 6:05 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Well played
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Ladies love him,
girls adore him,
I mean, even the one who never saw him.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 19, 2011 6:22 PM MST up reply actions
Likes the way he rhymes at the Show
The reason why?
Well I don’t know
So lets go.
Avalance 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
Hey! You're still here.
I knew you’d appreciate that.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 19, 2011 6:32 PM MST up reply actions
Smith Prado deal not dead
Thomas Harding of MLB.com reports that the possibility of the Rockies sending Seth Smith to the Braves for Martin Prado remains alive.
In fact, the clubs continued to have dialogue as recently as last week. It would seem to be a pretty good match, as the Braves have a need for a left fielder and the Rockies are in the market for a second baseman. However, Harding writes that the Braves appear to be focused on seeing what they can get in exchange for right-hander Jair Jurrjens.
Reminds me of that Monty Python bit …
“I’m not dead yet!”
Smith Prado is the answer to our prayers.
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I thought that was Herrera?
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JFK
they could have hammel + blackmon for jurrjens
plus Tracy will promise to keep pitching to freddie freeman whenever we face them.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 5:20 PM MST up reply actions
they've got too much pitching
hammel doesn’t help them
arenado: it's Rockie for future
what do they want?
besides ‘Rockie for future’
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 5:26 PM MST up reply actions
well, the stated line over and over has been a CF
since bourn will be leaving
arenado: it's Rockie for future
so dex and/or blackmon....
brings back both prado and jurjjens? I don’t see it.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 5:30 PM MST up reply actions
clarification: obviously not blackmon by himself
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 5:30 PM MST up reply actions
who knows, man
wren’s a weirdo
arenado: it's Rockie for future
The Braves must moved on from the Arenado dreams
This deal should gain more traction now. I wonder if the Braves would take Blackmon + Smith so we can watch Matthes and Wheeler platoon in the future. That’d be fun to watch.
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over Rosario for Niese
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Wasn't it though?
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that's barely enough time to put on my lootin' clothes
arenado: it's Rockie for future
I thought it was at 5:19?
And just came back on
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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So we didn't steal Martin Prado?
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 19, 2011 6:48 PM MST up reply actions
Like 20 minutes
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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look, it's something baseball related
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Ack! I broke my own rule by just clicking on that instead of right clicking to open in a new tab.
(The open in a new window ticky box is your friend.)
that's assuming my goal wasn't to make everyone re-load this awesome rockpile
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Why doesn't SBNation just have all links automatically open in a new window?
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 19, 2011 6:49 PM MST up reply actions
i use my middle mouse button for all links
open all links in new tabs
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Some of us try to get out of here...
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 6:55 PM MST up reply actions
I thought it was like the Hotel California where you can check out any time you like but you can never leave.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 19, 2011 7:08 PM MST up reply actions
That sounds more like it.
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 7:08 PM MST up reply actions
If your mouse
has a scroll button click with that and it opens in a new tab every time. It also works if you left click while holding control on the keyboard (command/apple button for MACs)
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JFK
My mouse died :(
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It’s still good looking though.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 19, 2011 7:31 PM MST up reply actions
No it's really not.
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It's no Paul Newman
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OT: AAA re-signs with Nuggets
YIPPEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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NBA free agency really seems like manufactured drama...
The agents are “free” but only their old club can offer them the most money. And then we’re really supposed to be surprised when they re-sign.
Like all the pumping music and light shows and crap...
they use to fire up the crowds.
I prefer college hoops.
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
Doesn't college hoops doe the same thing
only with bands and cheerleaders?
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Which cost a whole lot less
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JFK
Bands and cheerleaders aren't the same really...
Last Nugs game I took in was like a really bad rave with a game as a distraction.
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot of college teams still use light shows, sheets dropped from the rafters with projectsion, etc., for introductions.
Though not ever during the game.
I love college hoops
I love college sports in general
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
Whatever.....
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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I watched a full NBA preseason game the other day (not the Nuggets).
First time I’d ever done that in my life.
I watched the Nuggets scrimmage on
NBA.com
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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I'll probably watch Clippers v Lakers later
because Chauncey is now a Clipper
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ah, the good ole days....
arenado: it's Rockie for future
The Nuggets have a AAA team?
;P
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 6:47 PM MST up reply actions
Steve Henson of Yahoo tweets...
The Cardinals are in discussions to sign Coco Crisp to play CF and bat at the top of the order. Jon Jay wld move to RF with Craig injured.
So tick off another team in on Beltran.
Ugh
It really looks like the Rockies could have had him if they wanted him more than Cuddyer.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 19, 2011 7:09 PM MST up reply actions
Has cuddyer played more 3rd or 2b?
Either way, Cargo, Tulo, Beltran, Helton, cuddyer would be a nice middle of the order…. I support this.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 7:57 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Another power outage at Candlestick
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Huh...it's raining here...that's random
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200 comments about cucumbers
another 100 about hot players
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And another 30
with a troll lumbering about trying to find his balance in a new place
/I kid
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JFK
it's a pretty inauspicious username
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 7:56 PM MST up reply actions
Ouch.
I was just trying to get over 700 comments on a Nieves article. Don’t hate; that’s what trolls do.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 7:59 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
trolls hate?
"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." ~Tallulah Bankhead
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JFK
Well applying Russ' Rules of Life
Trolls love
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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Nah.
We lumber. U had it right.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 8:04 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Ouch indeed
Sorry for not welcoming someone with “troll” in their username with open arms.
AH DON’T TAKE KINDLY TA YER TYPE ROUND HERE
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 8:20 PM MST up reply actions
Do u take kindly to people w purple row in their username?
I’ve been reading your articles for a long time. Show some love for helping make your post one of the best Monday’s of the offseason.
/please
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 8:24 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Unnecessary apostrophes FTW
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
Tough crowd
Its hard two tipe on fone.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 8:31 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
hehe
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Dec 19, 2011 10:50 PM MST up reply actions
um hi Wil Nieves makes a post amazing enough on his own
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 8:32 PM MST up reply actions
Look how wrong I am
Can’t dispute this
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 8:40 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Also...
It’s very possible I didn’t have a proper sbnation definition of troll in mind when I made the username. I just meant I follow a lot…. Maybe it has become a self fulfilling prophesy
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 8:28 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
PUH LEEZE
Everyone KNOWS trolls are internet jerkheads
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 8:32 PM MST up reply actions
Not all trolls are the same
/don’t be racist
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 8:39 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
is it really racism if it's debating over the reality of a mythological creature?
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 8:46 PM MST up reply actions
Only if said mythological creature is purple
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hm
so I AM being racist?
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 8:53 PM MST up reply actions
I make no judgments man.
You probably had some purple troll injure a family member….counseling is all I’m sayin’
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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*snif*
can i have a hug
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 8:56 PM MST up reply actions
There there
/passes tissues
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/eats quart of ice cream
/sobs
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 8:59 PM MST up reply actions
What kind of ice cream?
I’ve got a quart of Praline ice cream in my freezer right now that sounds absolutely enticing thanks to you.
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JFK
honestly, ice cream sounds kind of awful right now
I think I’ll have another strongbow
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:14 PM MST up reply actions
Well
when I also have chocolate cake on the table yeah, ice cream doesn’t sound as good. Maybe I should put them together
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JFK
oh man
I had a mug brownie the other night with vanilla ice cream
nirvana
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:16 PM MST up reply actions
I hate you
off to the kitchen
"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." ~Tallulah Bankhead
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JFK
off to the beer fridge
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:18 PM MST up reply actions
yay beer!
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Blue Moon Summer Honey Wheat
drink by a month ago…
…
meh
/crack
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:19 PM MST up reply actions
Noooo not the crack!!!! .....oh......
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I can't really make the "beer can hissing open" sound without just spelling it out
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:21 PM MST up reply actions
I was going for the drug joke
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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I know
I don’t smoke no crack woman
I’m a straight shooter! /heroin
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:22 PM MST up reply actions
Don't tempt me
I am having a nice sober day, after guzzling down several Myrcenary Double IPA, and a few glasses of Van Winkle reserve 12 year old.
tempt you to what, drink a beer?
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:22 PM MST up reply actions
atta boy
have some water
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:24 PM MST up reply actions
IPA?
you poor soul
arenado: it's Rockie for future
well surely you've been captured by al qaeda and they're trying to extract information from you
arenado: it's Rockie for future
No beer in Best Western fridge
Damn. I miss my hotel from last Friday
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 9:33 PM MST up reply actions
Agreed 150%
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did you make a mug brownie?
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:33 PM MST up reply actions
Nope but
chocolate cake with hot fudge and ice cream was perfect
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whoah
that’s awesome
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:34 PM MST up reply actions
so a lurker?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 8:39 PM MST up reply actions
Yes!
Should’ve said lurker instead. Nice article btw.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 8:41 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
psh, you haven't told me that my article was good yet
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 8:46 PM MST up reply actions
That's Bc I'm a troll.
It should be obvious. It’s about nieves!
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 8:49 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
hell yeah, and I found a way to make it entertaining and you know it.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 8:50 PM MST up reply actions
Sure did....
I’ve been waiting my whole life for puerto rican statehood. I’ve been here celebrating all day!
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 8:54 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
hey
quit making people google things
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 8:57 PM MST up reply actions
you inspired me to google 'troll'
now I know why I am disliked.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:06 PM MST up reply actions
you could just add an s in between the 2nd and 3rd word
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 9:09 PM MST up reply actions
you're also physically unattractive

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by papality on Dec 19, 2011 9:10 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
That's actually pretty cool looking
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i didn't say uncool
i said unattractive; you wanna go make out with that, fine, knock yourself out
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by papality on Dec 19, 2011 9:11 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
You make it seem like making out with a
cool looking not purple troll is a bad thing.
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i am making a very confused face right now
i can’t articulate it any better than that
arenado: it's Rockie for future
that's what I looked like
whenever wiggy came up with men on base
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:12 PM MST up reply actions
hey look it's green
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:14 PM MST up reply actions
It's very disappointing isn't it?
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 19, 2011 8:05 PM MST up reply actions
yes
but that’s ok
it could be much worse.
I see cucumber talk as neutral at worst.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 8:50 PM MST up reply actions
AND A PARTRIDGE IN A PEAR TREEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 19, 2011 8:27 PM MST up reply actions
The Davrish posting bid should be announced any time now.
Prediction: Toronto.
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
Luftfeuchtigkeitsregler über alles.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 19, 2011 8:27 PM MST reply actions
Prediction:
T & A San Marino
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 8:32 PM MST up reply actions
T&A?
Awesome.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 19, 2011 8:32 PM MST up reply actions
Mt favorite T&A player:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=tiagod001fel
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 19, 2011 8:33 PM MST up reply actions
THAT WOULD BE LEGEN...WAIT FOR IT...DARY!
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
Oh, I never do
Because I…
Am…
Schpaaaaartucus.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 8:47 PM MST up reply actions
dude that is my favorite movie of all time
no foolin
“You Oneeders are great!”
“hey that’s pronounced onedders”
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 8:57 PM MST up reply actions
.
“Yeah, we were pretty wild up in Erie, Penn. "
“Yeah, there was this one time, we stayed up way past midnight. "
It's Jim Tracy's Fault.
one of the best freaking lines, well done.
“you… are… my biggest fan”
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:15 PM MST up reply actions
That would prompt this
President of Baseball Operations for the PRMLB Atlanta Braves
racist
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 8:50 PM MST up reply actions
I wouldn't
Because if we won, that would mean our winning bid was improbably the highest, and our bid would be no higher than, like, $5million.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 8:52 PM MST up reply actions
If we won with a 5 million bid I would definitely celebrate
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Huh
jonmorosi Jon Morosi
As the wait goes on, I am reminded of what a wise man told me about the central figure’s brooding nature: "Darvish is worse than Hamlet."
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
To Ronto or not To Ronto
that is the question…
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
In line for seats at the Grand Junction Rockies 2012 home opener
by Junction Rox on Dec 19, 2011 9:10 PM MST up reply actions
I wish I had a salad with fruit in it right now.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 8:53 PM MST reply actions
uh
right
I ate freaking french fries for dinner with a strongbow
I feel awful
ok maybe I should’ve had a salad w/fruit
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 8:53 PM MST up reply actions
Well I had Kraft macaroni with taco meat in it
I’m about to die
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 8:55 PM MST up reply actions
Keep a window open!
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
Falafels are good too.....oh wait.
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I think another strongbow is in order
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 8:57 PM MST up reply actions
Put an orange slice in it and there you have your fruit!
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in a strongbow?
good god, that’d be the sweetest thing ever
you know, aside from like a fuzzy navel or appletini or whatever
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:00 PM MST up reply actions
Cider makes me want to fight people.
I’m not sure why. It just does.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 19, 2011 9:02 PM MST up reply actions
uh
we’re talking about hard cider
like Strongbow.
Or Magners.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 11:16 PM MST up reply actions
Oh.
I had no idea what Strongbow was. I just assumed cider was brought up as another sweet drink.
/nondrinker looks like idiot
nah, it's fine
not everyone realizes that cider is boozahol.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 11:18 PM MST up reply actions
Had some good cider the other night
at a brewpub in Aurora. I’ve never been a big cider drinker, but that might change…
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by Junction Rox on Dec 19, 2011 11:43 PM MST up reply actions
And that would be bad?
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something about machismo or something
whatev, I like sweet drinks.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:15 PM MST up reply actions
I had a French Toast sandwich
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OK so I tweeted this earlier
and I figure we can talk about baseball while we talk about my purple troll trauma and salads
Given that Gio Gonzalez and Mat Latos are apparently going to bring in friggin HAULS for their teams, would you ever think about trading Chacin for a haul?
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It is an interesting thought
I wish O’Dowd would at least test the waters. I’m amazed at what Latos got for the Padres and a package like that would really help us, we could fill 2b and 3b by trading Chacin I think.
It's Jim Tracy's Fault.
What team would be a match?
Cleveland with Chisenhall and Kipnis?
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Yes.
Have thought this multiple times myself. If we could get a Latos haul for Chacin……That’d be great!
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I think we'd more likely get a Niese haul...
don’t know what that looks like yet (maybe it’s smitty and hammel, in which case we don’t need to trade)
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:03 PM MST up reply actions
Chacin is worth more than Niese, arguably as much as Gonzalez and Latos
He’s under control for 5 years, proven success at Coors field. According to ERA+ he has the success that Latos and Gonzalez has. I don’t know whether that means Chacin is underrated or that Latos and Gonzalez are overrated.
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he's also not had the injury or attitude issues latos has
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I think Niese had higher WAR last year
Latos had bad year, but he’s an obvious rebound candidate
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:16 PM MST up reply actions
Correct because of peripherals
but Niese has a history of high BABIP, which shows his tendencies to be hit, and hit hard along with high HR/FB rates for Citi Field. He’s a good #3-#4 but Chacin is a better pitcher. Niese would not be nearly as successful as Chacin in Coors.
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I really don't understand the Niese love either
He’s good, I won’t take that AWAY from him, but Chacin is getting better results with inferior peripherals (in Coors Field, but never mind that, it only applies to hitters /shakes fist at media) and Niese is doing the opposite: ~4ish ERAs with a better FIP
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:23 PM MST up reply actions
people are worried about chacin staying in the strikezone
I like to think that that was strictly a 2011 problem.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:27 PM MST up reply actions
we dubbed him the Walkopotomus
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:28 PM MST up reply actions
one thing you have to like about niese
he has a crazy schnoz
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:30 PM MST up reply actions
that's the blessed truth
dude can sniff out… something
don’t know where I was going with that one
/sips beer
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:32 PM MST up reply actions
Does it increase or decrease his HAR though?
that’s all that matters around here
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I'm totally not measuring HAR ok
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:33 PM MST up reply actions
He looks like a troll...
so YES, it helps!
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:34 PM MST up reply actions
here's to hoping his 2012 nickname ...
drops the ‘Wal’…. I like ‘kopotomus’ (or maybe pitchtocontactopotomus… i don’t want him trying to hard to get the punchout).
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:33 PM MST up reply actions
we're on the same page. How about the Groundballigator?
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:34 PM MST up reply actions
I could work with that
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I like this!
or… strikeasauras. or… chaching.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:36 PM MST up reply actions
chaching is pretty funny
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:37 PM MST up reply actions
sounds asian
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uh
good
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:39 PM MST up reply actions
The second Chacin commands his fastball confidently, he's borderline ace material
He has swing and miss stuff and his fastball generates enough sink. He just doesn’t have the velocity like Jimenez did to make up for bad fastball command, so control is a bigger factor for Chacin’s success. He was successful in 2010 because the league wasn’t familiar with him and his breaking stuff was able to fool hitters without much fastball command. They adjusted. Chacin needs to adjust next year to take the step into #1-#2 territory otherwise he stays a solid mid rotation pitcher for a few years.
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sounds like a fair assessment
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:34 PM MST up reply actions
He has the change up
to do damage with. Command the fastball and his chang up will be golden, especially here
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Yeah
the combination of sinker, change and breaking ball gets him up there. His breaking ball is already a swing and miss pitch without the fastball.
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Plus Niese has injury history, Chacin doesn't
The trade market would value Chacin much more highly than Niese.
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I'll take Chacin over Niese any day
but I think we’re unlikely to get a Latos/Ubaldo package….
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:24 PM MST up reply actions
Agree, the packages value wise would go Ubaldo-Latos-Gonzalez-Chacin-Niese
The Reds overpaid due to spare parts and Gonzalez will get more because lefties are more valuable, but trade value wise Chacin is much much closer to Gonzalez and Latos than Niese.
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Latos>Ubaldo>Gonzalez=Chacin>Niese
If that makes any sense. Gonzalez doesn’t have the greatest peripherals either and is a risk for regression if he leaves that ballpark.
of course
but i doubt the yankees would trade jesus montero
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A bird in hand.
So, no.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 19, 2011 9:03 PM MST up reply actions
I thought we did that
in July. I wouldn’t mind if it got us a haul like those guys are getting.
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Chacin could command top 100 pitching prospect plus top 50 bat
If the Rockies think they could replace his value in the rotation and find a impact middle infield bat, they should go for it.
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how many more pitching prospects do we need?
at some point shouldn’t we be okay with real life pitchers?
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:38 PM MST up reply actions
clearly you haven't heard
acquire ALL the young arms. not some. ALL.
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I guess chacin is starting to get up there...
ship him out
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:39 PM MST up reply actions
if you're not pre-arb,
you’re on the trading block
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I think we should trade a top 100 pitching prospect and top 50 bat
for someone like chacin (someone a little better than Niese)
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:43 PM MST up reply actions
So like White and Arenado for Gio?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 9:44 PM MST up reply actions
white and rosario
does he count as top 50 bat?
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:45 PM MST up reply actions
I'm really not sure Rosario does anymore
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 9:47 PM MST up reply actions
I'm too excited to see Arenado play
make it a 3 for 1 deal instead.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:48 PM MST up reply actions
LUCKY
I lost my invite for camp Tulo in the mail.
/can’t wait for spring training.
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:49 PM MST up reply actions
I have too
and I have his autograph on a couple baseballs
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Spring training is your friend
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Sitting behind a pole wasn't a highlight?
Oh that’s right you sat with me instead, so no, it wouldn’t have been a highlight.
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oh yeah... forgot about him when talking about OF depth earlier
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:55 PM MST up reply actions
he gets overlooked a lot
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he won't count
as depth for at least another year. ETA 2013 in my mind
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we were talking about 2013 and 2014 b4
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:57 PM MST up reply actions
/hard to navigate
You did actually have two conversations about depth, one for 2012 and one for 2013/2014
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2012 - wheeler/blackmon 2014 - parker/matthes
by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 10:00 PM MST up reply actions
I want to see Wheeler and Matthes platooning in 2013
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I feel like one of Matthes or Parker
is going to end up succeeding Cuddyer at first and the other winds up being the super RH platoon bat
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They'll hang up if we don't include Arenado
They’re targeting a third baseman. I’ll pass on Gio anyways, he’s going to be the overpay of the offseason unless one of Danks or Floyd get dealt.
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Rosario's stock is down, so no
He’s too much of a high risk to be a centerpiece for a Gio deal.
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white, wheeler/blackmon, rosario, bettis
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Pass
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 9:48 PM MST up reply actions
i probably would too
but that’s the level gio would take
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I wouldn't be outright opposed.
But I don’t think I’d do it quite yet. Would want to make sure we have a better idea of if/how well our multitude of other young arms are going to pan out.
Per Passan
Rangers won the bid for Darvish
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That's who I predicted!
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 9:10 PM MST up reply actions
Well it's official
There’s no way I can match my team’s offseason with my OOTP offseason
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 9:11 PM MST reply actions
TrippingOlney
THANK GOD, I CAN STOP WITH THE PUNS
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only $.6m more than what the red sox paid for dice-BB
the impression was given that it was much, much higher
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The bid is worth less to the Japanese than Matsuzaka
in terms of yen
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Our damn economy
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 9:16 PM MST up reply actions
It's around what I expected
The impression I got was that it was surprising and impressive, but that was coming off a baseline assumption that Daisuke was an outlier and a failed venture and teams would be unlikely to follow that course again. So beating out Matsuzaka’s post bid is pretty high
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 19, 2011 9:16 PM MST up reply actions
i wonder if toronto and texas didn't post matching bids to begin with
and then had to increase; maybe that’s how it ended up as such a weird number. i can’t stand not even numbers for stuff like that.
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I just realized I hadn't posted JFK's Quote of the Day:
“Why do people sing Take Me Out to The Ballgame when they’re already there?” ~Alex Rodriguez
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Why do people sing "the Good old hockey game"
when nobody south of Ontario has ever heard that song
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:17 PM MST up reply actions
because it's the best game you can name?
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Dec 19, 2011 9:22 PM MST up reply actions
you're going to make me pause Radio Paradise and listen to it, aren't you
(btw Radio Paradise is the BEST)
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:24 PM MST up reply actions
DO IT!!! NOW!!!!!
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Dec 19, 2011 9:46 PM MST up reply actions
I did
and regretted nothing
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 10:05 PM MST up reply actions
ARod should be kicked out of baseball for that quote alone.
Never mind the roids and general dickishness
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So, wrong, but so funny.
@OldHossRadbourn
In my day you could buy a lot of foreigners for $51.7 million.
god I love following old hoss
makes me question everything
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:20 PM MST up reply actions
nieves?
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by Junction Rox on Dec 19, 2011 11:17 PM MST up reply actions
Viejo Caballo Radbourne
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 11:19 PM MST up reply actions
buster olney
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I can't remember if he's one of the ones who's denied it.
I know both Rob Neyer and Craig Calcaterra have denied it in the past.
I asked Craig Robinson (@flipflopflying) if Hoss was him, but he denied it too.
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hahahaha
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let's all remove our hats and have a moment of silence for the 2012-2020 Seattle Mariners
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:22 PM MST up reply actions
Athletics...anyone...Athletics?
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they at least have a farm now that they traded Cahill and all but traded Gio
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:24 PM MST up reply actions
dang it
I missed this. To whom may I deliver the casserole?
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awwwww poor Mariners
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How bout them Astros
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by purplerowtroller on Dec 19, 2011 9:25 PM MST up reply actions
I ruined it
stupid twitter
stupid hockey game song
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 19, 2011 9:32 PM MST up reply actions
Eight lords?
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Nope make that 10 lords...dammit
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The big question with Darvish now
Who winds up being the better deal, CJ Wilson or Darvish?
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darvish
5 years younger, no control problems
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Darvish
is pretty much still a prospect. it’s like signing Pomeranz to a 120 million dollar contract.
not quite
strasburg is the only name that could work in the case of darvish
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I've heard Darvish has a plus plus cutter
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poor red sox fans
$100m later, and dice-BB still hasn’t thrown a gyroball
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Sort of not really
He played seven years in pro ball in Japan and he’s 25. Japan isn’t MLB, but being a 2-time MVP counts for something. I don’t think he’ll get anything near 120mil
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 20, 2011 6:40 AM MST up reply actions
Unless you were adding the posting fee in there too
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 20, 2011 6:51 AM MST up reply actions
poor was a poor choice of words...
more like ‘haha’
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OT: Old Republic was scheduled to launch 10 minutes ago
still not working.
/freaking out
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blue jays have to be the favorites for fielder now
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