Wednesday Rockpile: Casey Blake, Third Base Starter
by Jeff Aberle on Dec 21, 2011 7:30 AM MST
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PrintDuring a press conference yesterday in which the Rockies officially introduced their new free agent signee, Michael Cuddyer -- calling him a perfect fit for the team (I disagree given the cost, but you've already heard that from me), Colorado also announced the signing of 38 year old 3rd baseman Casey Blake to a one year deal that is pending a physical. The non-guaranteed contract (he's got to make the 25 man roster to get the money) is for $2 million, with $1 million in unspecified performance incentives possible to attain. I love this signing for many reasons:
1. Blake is still a pretty darn good player -- despite only playing in 63 games last year due to several injuries (the most serious of which required neck surgery), Blake still accrued 1.1 fWAR (on pace for an above average year). He's been at least an above average (2+ WAR) player for the five years preceding last year, so there's a high likelihood that he's going to be productive if he's healthy, offensively and defensively. He's what Ty Wigginton was supposed to be, but he comes at half the price and has a nice beard to boot.
2. If he's not healthy, the Rockies aren't on the hook for much -- a plausible scenario includes Blake not being fully recovered from surgery to begin the season, but in that case the Rockies can either release him for little financial investment or keep him on the DL until he is healthy. Either way, Blake is very likely to be a net positive for Colorado in 2012.
3. He's fantastic depth even if Nolan Arenado seizes the job out of Spring Training -- Blake is a perfect stopgap player for Colorado: someone who is going to put up good numbers at the hot corner when healthy, he's signed cheaply, and he's not signed long-term. In the likely scenario that super prospect Nolan Arenado isn't ready to man the position out of Spring Training, Blake will be a great custodian. When Arenado is deemed ready, Blake will be a good bench bat as well as a decent corner infield backup. In fact, Dan O'Dowd notably did not name Blake anything more than a utility infielder or depth, but he definitely should be the front-runner for the starting job at this point.
4. There's still money in the budget for another starter and a 2B -- because this signing was quite cheap, the Rockies should be able to still upgrade over DJ LeMahieu/Chris Nelson/Eric Young at 2B and at the SP position if they want to. With the Cuddyer and Blake signings, I see the Rockies with between $6-11 million (above minimum salaried players at each position) to work with in payroll flexibility and up to five roster slots to spend on.
In the likely event that Seth Smith is traded for pitching, then the payroll flexibility will change. If these spots are filled externally, two of the spots will be relievers, one will be a backup catcher, one will be a starter, and one will be another bat. There's enough flexibility to the point where if a pitcher like Wandy Rodriguez became available in a trade that made sense in terms of prospect cost, Colorado could squeeze him into the budget.
If the Rockies don't make another move, the only big hole they'll have in their lineup is 2B -- that's the only position that won't project at least close to being a league average hitter. In addition, Colorado's bench will be better too, as Blake will either join the bench or at least push a marginal bat out of the 25 man roster. That's why I believe that this was a terrific signing for Colorado. Now if O'Dowd can manage to actually get something of value in return for Seth Smith, I'll consider this off-season a successful one.
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The Rockies also signed 29 year-old journeyman Carlos Torres to a minor league contract. When I say journeyman, I mean that the right handed pitcher was in Japan last year (he didn't pitch well, unfortunately). Hooray for more pitching depth.
This article from Rany Jazayerli at Grantland is relevant for the Rockies -- on how prospects have gotten to the point at which they are maybe now overvalued by teams. Having 30 great prospects is nice, but there isn't going to be space for all of them on the major league roster. I'm a proponent of using some of the redundant prospect chips (Blackmon/Wheeler, one of the young arms) to get major league help in the short term (Martin Prado please).
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Non-guaranteed Contract. He’s just a filler ’till Arenado could possibly be ready next Season. Inexpensive Vet, who is a good inking, imo.
And to add...
New Astros Oberfuhrer Jeff Luhnow has now said that the Astros ARE willing to eat some of Rodriguez’s Contract, if the deal is right. I still personally think it won’t take much (One Decent Prospect Blackmon/Wheeler and some other minor ones) to get Rodriguez, as Houston is in full Slash-mode, and will be the bottom feeders of the American League West for decades to come. Not to mention, being Nolie’s little B####!
he certainly would
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 21, 2011 7:55 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
I just remember watching him pitch against us in Coors last fall and thinking
Do Not Want
Avalance 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
I don't know how cheap he'll really come...
Houston wanted Rosario last year. So we’ll see.
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 21, 2011 10:15 AM MST up reply actions
totally new regime now.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 21, 2011 10:23 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
just asking
How much 1st base experience does he have? I think we should cut Giambi loose or make him a coach, but I don’t see that happening.
Don't you know that this is an unwinnable argument on Purple Row? Especially against me and my vastly talented counter-argument.
It’s like you’re rooting for the Washington Generals or something.
by Rox Girl on Dec 21, 2011 7:48 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
58 career starts, 116 career games at 1B
Nothing really since 19 starts in 2008. 6 starts last year
2011 - not even light can escape
Wow...
That kind of changes the way I feel about how the Rockies operate. Also makes me feel more sad about the Ubaldo trade than I already was. I hope DoD can cash in on the prospect “fetish” as Jazayerli puts it and get Prado.
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscripti catapultas habebunt
by BittenAnkles on Dec 21, 2011 8:21 AM MST up reply actions
I still contend there's a difference between the general term "prospects"
and what we got as a return in White, Pomeranz, and Gardner. Those three arms are already fairly advanced and within a season of MLB production.
These aren’t some A ball arms.
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I think the main point of the article doesn't depend on how close to MLB-ready the players are
It is the notion that potential, even immediate potential, is seemingly more valuable than proven MLB results. Maybe Pomeranz turns into the stud we all think he can be, but we still have to talk in terms of ifs and maybes.
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by BittenAnkles on Dec 21, 2011 8:32 AM MST up reply actions
But it does matter
the closer the prospect is to MLB production, the less risk you are assuming.
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Jazayerli is careful to avoid mentioning the Ubaldo trade
and he doesn’t mention the first Haren trade either, as both are fairly recent counter-examples to his premise where a lot of prospect value was given up for a single MLB piece. If he adds too many of these, it would weaken his position. This of course makes his thesis derived from cherry picking to a certain degree, even though I generally think he is correct.
I definitely noticed that as well
It’s a very good piece, but the Ubaldo trade is an obvious omission
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Wheeler for Beltran is another one...
Even though it was a single prospect for a 2 month rental, it was a top grade prospect.
A 2 month rental that might have taken the Giants to the WS, that is.
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For a prospect that might turn into an ace that only costs $500,000/season for a couple of years...
There are high end maybe’s and hope for’s on both ends that may or may not have materialized. Even if Beltran increased SF’s odds of making the playoffs, with them being a crapshoot, the odds of the WS were probably about the same of Wheeler reaching his ceiling.
QED!
I think we’re on the same page on this one.
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Do you remember Cargo's start with the Rockies?
Not a fun time, that. NB I am not making a point here, just reminiscing!
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I remember
making fun of how terrible CarGo was when he first got called up. Then his 2009 playoff performance shut us up really fast.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 10:03 AM MST up reply actions
At the time of the trade, CarGo was not worth Matt Holliday.
I was very skeptical of that trade at the time..
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 21, 2011 10:16 AM MST up reply actions
Very much agreed
But at this point, I’d rather have CarGo.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 10:20 AM MST up reply actions
I wasn't on the Row at that time ...
But I was on board with that deal, as I had a feeling about Gonzalez … saw him play in Oakland and while the numbers weren’t there, he just passed the eye test.
by Traindogger on Dec 21, 2011 10:24 AM MST up reply actions
Not sure I agree. The Latos trade is one he sees as "fair" and that;s his (contemporary) example.
Indeed, the existence of “fair” trades is in a sense an element of proof of his argument. If Latos and Ubaldo were traded for a fair return, then it makes it clear that many other trades are significantly overvaluing prospects (or not happening at all, like any trades where Arenado has been requested).
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I'm saying it's still likely confirmation bias, though, rather than a thorough survey.
He’s seeing all the examples that fit his model, but generally overlooking those that don’t, giving him a skewed perspective of what’s likely the actual degree of overvaluing.
we also had some injury concerns about Ubaldo due to his drop in velocity as well as high altitude breaking down pitchers.
I think the prospect obsession hits us harder in the point Muzia always brings up which is that we’ve been pretty unwilling in the past to deal top prospects – There was a time when Greg Reynolds, Stewart, Nelson, and EY2 could have fetched some interesting pieces but now are all non-tender candidates…
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that EY2 for Freddy Sanchez trade in particular...
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was that a 1 for 1 deal at some point in the past?
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Yeah, I think back in 2009? Before Sanchez went to the Giants in exchange for pitcher Tim Alderson
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if he had avoided injures that would have been a an awesome deal. Still is pretty awesome though.
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Who is he? Alderson or Sanchez
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 21, 2011 8:55 AM MST up reply actions
thanks
kind of new here – what’s the argument for keeping an over-the-hill DH who serves as a de-facto hitting coach on the active roster of an NL team?
Just that he's not that bad overall as a PH (he was last season, but his 3 year totals are above average)
and he’s solid as a LH sub for Helton. The other options for his roster spot would go to inferior hitters who likely couldn’t have enough of a defensive advantage to make it worthwhile in the amount of innings we’d be talking about.
maybe
although can he really serve as a long-term fill-in when Helton’s back locks up? How much is he earning? Hard to believe there’s no competent 1st base back-up out there.
He's earning a paltry $1 million.
And he’s a LH sub, and bench bat, not a long term fill-in. The Rockies would likely go to Cuddyer (calling up Wheeler or Matthes) in that event.
LH sub for a LH hitter?
That is the main reason I see him as surplus. I don’t mind keeping Giambi around – I do think his presence on the bench strikes a bit of fear in the opposition, somewhat forcing them to account for him in high leverage situations. But saying he is a LH sub for a LH hitter is like saying we got Mayonnaise and Miracle Whip.
I dare you to call Giambi “Miracle Whip” to his face
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by Muzia on Dec 21, 2011 8:21 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
That's actually not a bad nickname:
He Miracle Whipped this one into Right field.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 10:07 AM MST up reply actions
It is kind of a Miracle that he can Whip anything at all at his advanced age :).
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Dec 21, 2011 10:16 AM MST up reply actions
Ilike to thin Giambino and I ...
… would be pals, even if I dubbed him MW to his face.
by Traindogger on Dec 21, 2011 10:19 AM MST up reply actions
A thin Giambino would be really weird
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by Northsider1964 on Dec 21, 2011 8:23 AM MST up reply actions
This would be true for a generally healthy LH hitter,
but if you have an old and sporadically healthy LH hitter like Helton, and with so many RHP’s in the league, there will likely be days that Helton needs a rest against right-handers.
And if you went to make a sandwhich and found you were all out of mayonnaise, you might be grateful to find that jar of Miracle Whip instead of having use ketchup.
That’s a clumsy anology, but for an injury-prone Helton (the mayonnaise), having a LH batter in Giambi (the miracle whip) is nice to have around for the RH pitchers that will still be on the hill the majority of time, as opposed to some lefty-mashing RH back-up who doesn’t match-up well against RH pitching (the ketchup).
I know I’m not telling you anything you don’t already know. I guess it just comes down to how much that extra LH bat means to you. For me? While I hate the roster crunch Giambi provides, he brings enough positives to the table to make it worth it. Especially for a measly $1M.
Just a small town kid who thinks Coors Field on a sunny summer Saturday night is the best place to be on this or any other plane of existence. When a late-inning Todd Helton go-ahead homerun is added to this scenario, my brain melts.
Indeed - but I said that already.
I don’t mind keeping Giambi around – I do think his presence on the bench strikes a bit of fear in the opposition, somewhat forcing them to account for him in high leverage situations.
The point I was making is generally it would be more logical to have a RH hitting 1st baseman to platoon with Helton … which perhaps we do have now in some combo of Cuddyer/Blake/??
Precisely, they hoped wiggy could do it, but he wasn't getting it done
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its not like Giambi is Seth Smith against LHP
small sample size but over the last 3 seasons (and his entire career for that matter) hes been an above average hitter against LHP with last year having a 129 wRC+
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Bravos may listen on Prado now ...
According to Dan Connolly of the Baltimore Sun, the Orioles turned down an offer from the Braves for Adam Jones.
The Braves reportedly offered Martin Prado, Jair Jurrjens and a pitching prospect, but it apparently wasn’t enough to pry Jones away. The 26-year-old center fielder earned $3.25 million this season while batting .280/.319/.466 with 25 home runs, 83 RBI, 12 stolen bases and a .785 OPS. His salary could approach $6 million in his second year of arbitration. Connolly doesn’t expect the O’s to move Jones unless they get a frontline starting pitcher in return.
As I suggested yesterday, it is highly possible the Braves weren’t moving on Smith/Prado because they were working on a deal involving both Jurrjens and Prado. Now that the deal with Baltimore is dead, they may come back to the table.
Good on the O's
They need to think long term, and Prado + Jurrjens doesn’t help them at all.
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Jurrjens makes some sense for Baltimore
But I get your point and agree that would have been shortsighted.
they would be wise to deal Jones I think – he’s not really that good but a return of Prado and Jurrjens doesn’t help them rebuild one bit…
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I like Jones
I think he’s a good centerfielder so I wouldn’t just trade him if I was Baltimore unless they got themselves a nice package.
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“This is birdland” for the 1,000,000th time. But I won’t.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 10:08 AM MST up reply actions
This is birdland.
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by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 10:15 AM MST up reply actions
No, just 'Reply All'ed.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Dec 21, 2011 10:16 AM MST up reply actions
Baha
:-) I feel like we’ve developed some pretty great meme prospects this off-season – I’ve gotta think at least a few of them will stick at the Purple Row level for some time.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 10:17 AM MST up reply actions
Meme's never really retire at Purple Row.
They’ll keep getting re-signed as cheap utility-meme’s long after their best days are gone.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Dec 21, 2011 10:31 AM MST up reply actions 3 recs
This conversation is really starting to annoy me
by WanderingRoxFan on Dec 21, 2011 10:39 AM MST up reply actions
It's not in a good place right now...
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Dec 21, 2011 10:40 AM MST up reply actions
Ya think?!
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Dec 21, 2011 3:15 PM MST up reply actions
:)
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That makes no sense...
Adam Jones has the same amount of service time as Prado or Jurrjens. I do agree that targeting Jurrjens or Prado doesn’t help them much long-term, however.
Good move on the Braves for not trading a guy with a higher career OPS in a worse hitter’s park. Oh, and two other players besides. Adam Jones is not worth nearly that much. Not sure how long it will be until Wren refutes this rumor…
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
by cthabeerman on Dec 21, 2011 11:03 AM MST up reply actions
I don't get the Jones non-love.
He’s a young, affordable centerfielder who has pop to his bat, maintains a respectable BA, whose won a gold glove who is about to enter into his “prime years.” He’s not an elite outfielder but he’s definitely good and he gets a boost in value given that he’s a centerfielder.
Well, both he and Prado both have the same amount of years of control left, Jones has an inferior OBP, less XBH in the past three years despite playing in more games, worse BA. Neither can walk. His won a GG for his bat, like most people these days.
Playing CF is nice, but when compared to Prado’s versatility, it still falls short. Prado has a better slash line in a neutral park while Jones plays in one of the better hitter’s parks (and divisions, for that matter…opposite is true of NL East) in the league.
When you compare Jones to Prado, he just falls short, except for HRs, and that’s somewhat questionable because of his home park (for the record, I still think he has more HR power, but it doesn’t translate into more XBH). When the supposed offer was not only Prado but also Jurrjens and a prospect besides, why make that deal?? You’re getting the second or third-best player in the deal and giving up the first and possibly second-best guy.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Where are you getting your park factors?
BB-Ref has Atlanta and Baltimore both within a couple of ticks of neutral.
I don't like BR's take...
So I take a look at a couple different places. Basically, I dislike that it’s all factored into one cute number. Some places are great doubles ballparks, some aren’t. Some are great for HR, some aren’t. One number doesn’t do a park factor true justice.
For recent history, I use this handy article: http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2011/1/5/1915431/playing-in-parks-component-park-factors-2006-2010
It doesn’t have the most recent data, but it gives you a better idea of what’s really happening by not just making it one cutesy number. Same goes for ESPN, which I’ll use for more recent stuff. I generally loathe ESPN for all things, but you have to get the data somewhere. Again, it’s broken down into components.
When you look at the components, you can see pretty easily that the 3B factor is what brings down Camden’s factor so much. Both ESPN and BtB agree that hitting a HR in Baltimore is much easier than in Turner Field, for instance.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
component park factors are great
I prefer StatCorner much more than ESPN
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 21, 2011 4:41 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
...and
Bookmarked. It seems like every time someone mentions that site (most recently to look up Tulsa’s park factors), I mean to do it and then forget its name. Not this time.
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It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Looking at statcorner, and:
Look at the innings pitched by starters. Good on ya Jhoulys, and to a certain extent JHams, but WTF was 2011. I know we used a lot of pitchers, but holy hell, I didn’t realize we only had 2 pitchers (3 if you include Ubaldo) throw more than 100 innings.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 4:52 PM MST up reply actions
check the RH HR park factors in High Desert and Modesto for a good laugh
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 21, 2011 7:12 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
I see where you're coming from
Makes sense.
But I must have a boner for Jones ‘cause unless that Braves prospect was a top prospect from the Braves organization I’d still pass on that deal if I was the Orioles, even acknowledging that Atlanta is giving up more in base value.
Side note, I do value a CF’er more than I value Prado’s versatility. And while he might be more of a 5 slot batter in a better lineup, he has spent most of his time recently in the #3 slot for Baltimore. To me, that counts for something as he’s proven to perform as the focal point of his team’s offense.
I think they could have recieved more in trade for those two than just Jones
Detroit, Colorado and Philly all need 2B/3B and would cough up talent for Prado, I would bet that San Diego would do Rizzo for Jurrjens straight up.
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I think the Braves are holding out for Dex.
I’d include Dex for Jurrans too; but not with Black mon or Wheeler in the deal too
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I wouldn't deal Dex for that return
Assuming of course it would cost more than Dex (or even assuming it wouldn’t cost much more). It is important to remember, Dex skipped the higher levels of MiLB and was relatively new to switch-hitting. It is a bit of a gamble but I would wager on Dex’s 2nd half performance being indicative of what we can expect going forward and that is too valuable a piece in an up-the-middle player to give up for either (or even both) of those players. Put another way, Dex has a high likelihood of being the best player in that deal, and it’s not like he is a prsopect who has never done it at the MLB level.
by Traindogger on Dec 21, 2011 10:01 AM MST up reply actions
I'm just saying that Atlanta is seamingly Desperate for CF now.
Like they have some kind of big problem with Bourne now and regret dealing for him. I,m not saying get rid of Dex to get Rid of Dex. I’m saying if Prado fixes 2b long term and Jurrans can be # 3 or 4 in the Rotation for at least two years the I risk Blackmon or Wheeler growing into Dex’s shoes.
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We discussed this
At length the other day – Prado fixes 2B for 2 years. Dexter has the potential to be an elite CF, and I see the FO banking on him performing the way he did in the 2nd half for most of this season, which means the “untouchable” monicker actually fits here. And I’m glad.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 10:19 AM MST up reply actions
No, they don't regret Bourn, just that he's a FA after this year.
They’d like someone locked up.
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I guess
still amazed that the Rockies haven’t been able to develop a replacement first baseman considering Helton’s age – maybe they think he’s the new Minnie Minoso.
A lot of teams haven't developed stud 1B prospects
It’s only magnified here because we have only had 2 full-time 1B in the 20 year franchise
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 21, 2011 8:33 AM MST up reply actions
I certainly agree that we've been spoiled at that position
might be one of the very best first base runs in baseball history.
Tulo is really going to Miss Todd when he hangs them up fot the twenty or so throws that no one else is likely to save.
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totally agree
I think Tulo’s gold glove days are over when the Toddfather hangs ’em up.
That's an unpleasant thought
Though I suspect you’re right. Sigh.
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It's possible
but by then, he will have 3 or 4 gold gloves, and reputation carries just as much, if not more, than actual performance. I’m not sure the percentage of his elite plays involve throws in the dirt, but he’ll still be up there
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 21, 2011 8:59 AM MST up reply actions
Don't forget the ones that sail high or wide.
I’m not indicting Tulo’s arm. Just Tulo is really not that much above average in accuracy as a lot of people think. Todd makes any SS look better than he is and not just Tulo.
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maybe he’ll be forced to improve his accuracy when Todd steps down.
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He might he should practice throwing to Mora!
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Is there a stat for this?
I would guess Tulo is among this best in throwing accuracy at SS
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Curiosity got the best of me
Below are the top five SS from 2006-2011 based on innings per throwing error (TE):
Name TE TE/Inning
Jimmy Rollins 18 405.7
Troy Tulowitzki 19 317.2
Stephen Drew 23 269.1
Orlando Cabrera 27 250.7
J.J. Hardy 24 239.1
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that'd be inning/TE right?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 21, 2011 2:24 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Tulo's 317.2 throwing errors every inning
are the problem that nobody talks about.
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You don't really "need" to develop a 1B, if you can develop a bat at another position and move them to 1B
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 21, 2011 8:52 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
I've wanted more of a comitmant from the org on a Helton replacement too.
RG’s argument for Gthong doesn’t sway me. While having Cuddyer is a step in the right direction; his versitility just smacks of Tracy Mix mastering to me. Hope Pacheco gets lots of Reps at 1b and 3b this spring.
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Matthes, Parker
Take your pick. There are options, but they just haven’t been declared “Helton successor”
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When will either be ready for 1b?
I only hear of them working in the OF. If Helton has a 2010 oe worse; their being a year or more away might be too late.
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"Ready" for 1B? It's not a particularly difficult defensive position to play...
How many reps there would they honestly require?
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To just catch ther ball not many.
To get the footwork down and be in the right place to recievethrows and touch the bag or place the tag varies gretly with the individual. It’s like Murphy for the Mets at 2b. Only poor footwork at 1b likely gets you spiked and possibly achilles injuries.
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Not to mention the occasional interference call.
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And that's exactly why the Rockies paid extra for Cuddyer
He’d play first in that scenario.
Longer term? Like Muzia says, Matthes and Parker are both seen as viable 1B candidates who have decent shots of hitting enough for the bats to play there, as well.
I think part of the challenge here for the Rockies is timing. Helton means enough to the organization and fan base that cutting him or trading him before he’s ready to hang em up is a non-option. And if/when Helton sticks around that extra year after a new starter takes over first, he’d take over the “Giambi” role you seem to hate (although I’m ok with).
The org’s in a sort of a tough spot here.
Just a small town kid who thinks Coors Field on a sunny summer Saturday night is the best place to be on this or any other plane of existence. When a late-inning Todd Helton go-ahead homerun is added to this scenario, my brain melts.
Todd when he's healthy can still field the position long enough to do an interleague stint. I doubt that with Giambi.
Todd still does not have issues with LHP’s I would much rather see him in the PH/DH role than Giambi.As you say though timing is everything.
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I hope Cuddyer tears it up and has a huge year
But the fact that the Rockies overpaid for him because he provides 1B insurance only helps make Oldfoagie’s point. If Cuddyer is the guy the Rockies truly wanted all along, that’s great. But he’d better outperform Willingham by a lot and put up numbers very close to Beltran, or these roster gymnastics don’t look like a very wise investment.
I also agree with Oldfoagie about Helton’s defense. He’s lost a couple of steps, but still plays the position better than 3/4 of the guys out there. If and when he becomes a bench player, that sets him apart from a lot of veterans in their twilight years.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 21, 2011 8:57 AM MST up reply actions
I suspect that once Todd's no longer starting, the end will be quick and relatively painless.
I don’t think he’ll want to Giambi it for 2 or 3 years (and I certainly hope he doesn’t have any stats to pad that might make it seem like a wise move). Maybe if the team needs/begs him?
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I agree, I don't think he will either
But if he does, he’s likely to be a defensive equal of even an upgrade over the younger player he’s backing up. It wouldn’t be a case of, “Sweet Jesus, Helton’s on the field – please don’t hit it near 1B!”
by Northsider1964 on Dec 21, 2011 9:21 AM MST up reply actions
I think I missed this convo driving back from the mountains but
Ben Paulsen was considered that guy for a while, no? He tore up ST last year, and despite AA struggles couldn’t a strong year place him as helton’s successor? Or, like Matt Miller, is he just a AAA player who may never get to the bigs.
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I know he was okay but not great in the AFL as well
And generally is considered to not have the power/hit tool desired at the position. I wouldn’t say he has no chance, but it is more likely than not that he isn’t that guy.
by Traindogger on Dec 21, 2011 11:31 AM MST up reply actions
Thanks.
Just wondering what happened as he used to be considered “that guy” and his name never even comes up now
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his AA season was a train wreck
he wasn’t really ever believed to be a mlb caliber 1B by prospect writers, but there was hope after his ST he would be passable. but really, his AA season was a train wreck
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 21, 2011 12:22 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
I don't know when Paulsen was ever considered "that guy" outside of a few dream scenarios.
He was always in the “could be that guy if he develops well category,” because of this Matthes is a lot closer to being ‘that guy" than Paulsen was, but even Matthes isn’t there yet.
Regardless of how much you love Pacheco, his hitting stats would be good for a 2B/SS or a utility infielder
But he’d be a bottom of the barrel 1st baseman and a poor 3B.
I ope he does well if he earns his place, of course, I just don’t think it’s the likeliest outcome.
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I keep bringing up Magadan as his ceiling.
Never said he particularly has the power for a cornerman; just the contact rates to be a very good pinch hitter long term and enough contact to keep innings alive.
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Sean Marshall for Travis Wood
We couldn’t have topped Marshall as a bullpen piece but I wonder if a Street, Smtih type package might have enticed Cincy. They could have filled more holes on their roster this way, though at the expense of the quality of player they got in return. I always say trades for quality are better than trades for quantity so by that reasoning I probably stick with Marshall but sometimes filling holes has its appeal.
Bruce Levine of ESPNChicago.com reports that the Cubs and Reds are “close” to a deal involving Sean Marshall and Travis Wood.
Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com was the first to report that the clubs were discussing a deal. However, Levine hears that the Cubs would receive two minor leaguers along with Wood. Marshall has a 2.45 ERA out of the bullpen since the start of the 2010 season, but he’s basically a luxury for a team that is in rebuilding mode. The 29-year-old left-hander will hit free agency next offseason.
Trade is close, not final.
I like the idea of Travis Wood
but with a 31.4% GB rate in 208 IP…. I’m not sure how that would work.
True, but this may be a case of two heads are not better than one
Plus, Slowey’s got a walk rate about 1.5 less per 9 than Wood, and significantly better last year.
Dump Slowey if there's concern over having both
A concern which would be justified.
But I wouldn’t want Slowey to be a reason we couldn’t nab Wood. I like Slowey’s control but it isn’t like his control saved him from doing a face plant last year.
Wood might not falter here but I’d take the chance on him.
That said, this is all a moot point given we don’t have the bullpen piece to offer Cincy at this point.
There's nothing really wrong with acquiring him
He’s quality, and it’s disappointing when the Rox can’t put together a package better than Sean Marshall for a quality young starter.
To be fair
Marshall is no slouch and is a great add for a team like Cincy who has a lot of young arms of Woods ilk and needs bullpen help to make their run.
I have a hard time saying he's a "quality young starter"
I know what he did in 2010. And his 2011 was gross. But scouts think this guy’s CEILING is 4-5 in the rotation. As if we don’t have enough of those.
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 21, 2011 2:18 PM MST up reply actions
I think if there's still a Reds starter that the Rockies are interested in, it's Homer Bailey.
I do think that it’s quite possible we wind up dealing with Cincy this winter. See my post below.
I mentioned him the other day.
I like.
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 21, 2011 2:22 PM MST up reply actions
I like him too
Plus, even if he doesn’t work out, his name will launch 1,000 puns.
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arenado: it's Rockie for future
D'oh!
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
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I remember being very impressed with Wood a couple of years ago when he pitched against us. He had Cliff Lee type command that game and I remember thinking to myself that was very impressive. He just hasn’t shown that typpe of command consistantly. Sometimes it requires change of scenery, coaches, teammates whatever.
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 21, 2011 1:35 PM MST up reply actions
Loved this from the Q&A
Folks, Michael Cuddyer is made of MAGIC.
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by Jamie Hollowell on Dec 21, 2011 9:00 AM MST reply actions
I'm pretty darn okay with the Blake signing
way to go FO
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Meh
DOD reminds me of a compulsive bargain-bin shopper. He just can’t walk by a mediocre, short-term FA without giving serious thought to trying him out: Giambi, Lopez, Wiggy, Ellis, Blake. This is just a $2 million insurance policy against an Arenado flop, or $2 mil for 3 months of Arenado service clock postponement, if you want to look at it that way. At least it puts the “Cuddyer can play 3B” theory to rest. No need for him to now.
Even if your ;ast two sentences are true ...
Blake is a valuable piece at the price, as he can certainly field the position and the contract is not guaranteed unless he makes the 25-man roster.
by Traindogger on Dec 21, 2011 10:03 AM MST up reply actions
I'm Ok with Blake as I think He'd add more to the Offense than Keppinger.
I’m generally OK with DOD’s Subtractions; just not sure about the additions. I really hated watching Iannetta; but I’m not sure Chatwood was the return I would have been looking for. I think DOD was lucky to get any return for Stewart, but am not sure That Clovin and DJ are fits here. If I was going to go after Niese I’m not sure I would have gone after Slowey first.
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We didn't quite give anything up for Slowey
And supposedly in any deal for Niese they’d want someone like Hammel to be thrown in as filler, so having Slowey provides us the depth to do that.
I know he is old but
Fun Fact
Martin Prado 2009-2011 8.8 WAR
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I'm OK with it
in the sense that its sort of a “well, why not” move at this point. Propping his corpse up there probably won’t be materially worse than whatever other realistic options we had, and if he somehow has a mini-bounceback year it will be pretty nice…but dude is well past his expiration date.
Health wise? Or productivity wise?
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He's still been a pretty productive player the last couple of years
Health would be the main concern
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we'll see
As noted, I’m not really against it or anything, but there’s a reason we just signed him to a non-guaranteed deal for peanuts. Its not like the Dodgers have a better 3b option, and they aren’t wringing their hands as he walks out the door. I also think he’s going to make Wigginton look like Ozzie Smith in terms of lateral quickness in the field. But whatever. I’m resolved to not whine and overanalyze any more, just figure out who is in the uniforms, what numbers they are, and cheer for them.
I like it because it’s a low risk buffer against the pit of wonders and doesn’t put a ton of pressure on Arenado to win the job (or undue pressure if he wins the job, starts slowly, and has Tracy start to hate him.)
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 21, 2011 12:20 PM MST up reply actions
So,
Smith + a prospect to Houston For Wandy and some salary relief. Wheeler and a lesser prospect to Atlanta for Prado. Sign Lidge to a minor league deal. And sign Jorge Soler whenever he becomes a free agent to replenish outfield depth in the farm system (and to add a prospect who would rank third on our list.
I would be more than happy with that.
Why would Houston want Seth Smith?
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 21, 2011 10:19 AM MST up reply actions
They only play against
RH Pitchers.
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To add more Unicorns and Rainbows?
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by DAWNMARIE01 on Dec 21, 2011 10:28 AM MST up reply actions
And Lidge on a minor league deal?
I wasn’t aware he’d come that cheap. I’m sure he’d cost more than that..
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 21, 2011 10:20 AM MST up reply actions
Lidge said he's ok with not having a closer's job.
I don’t think he’s ok with a minor league deal. He deserves to be on a major league club somewhere.
by CarloWitzki on Dec 21, 2011 10:22 AM MST up reply actions
And while you're at it Santa ...
Can I also have a new Bentley?
by Traindogger on Dec 21, 2011 10:22 AM MST up reply actions
Santa drives harder bargains than the ones on that list
At least he makes a list, and checks it twice.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 21, 2011 10:25 AM MST up reply actions
I'm not sure any of the other parties would be happy with those offers though
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Is DOD a Jedi
Can he use Jedi Mind tricks?
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Some links...
Braves’ beat writer’s POV about the Prado/Rockies trade talks
Had Jurrjens been traded to the Reds, the Rockies felt the Braves would then be in position to trade them Martin Prado.
There is still a chance the Rockies will realize their hopes to acquire Prado. There are also still plenty of pitching-hungry teams that will be willing to strike a deal for Jurrjens. But Wren has continued to say he will not deal either player unless he receives a strong return.
Baseball Prospectus looks at GMs, putting Neal Huntington in the spotlight and highlighting Astros recent hiring. A good read.
I really wish this app would allow clicking of links
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 21, 2011 10:33 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Also if i could use the horizontal keyyboard..
although my manual keyboard works, i just jave to read sideways.
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by Charlie77 on Dec 21, 2011 11:50 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
swype if your friend
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yeah idk how i used to text without swype
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Classy classy guy
Glad to see him as a Rocky.
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Get well soon Juan.
No kidding.
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I hope I did you proud in the 11 years I got to wear your uniform.
YOUR uniform! The press conference yesterday and this letter are seriously blinding me to the fact that he’s going to be overpaid, is only a marginal upgrade over smith, yadda yadda. He’s making it really hard to not like him already. I hope his performance at Coors will make it harder.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 10:49 AM MST up reply actions
Is it Rocky or Rockie
always wondered….
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Rockie
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Rocky Mountains?
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It's tough to singularize something that is inherently plural.
I would like a McGriddles.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 21, 2011 11:35 AM MST up reply actions
Rocket J.
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Dec 21, 2011 11:31 AM MST up reply actions
I believe this has been debated hotly, and not just on the Row
Back in ’93 there were veritable wars over the spelling of the singular in the local newspapers (like the internet, but made of paper).
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N-ewes. Pay. Per?
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 21, 2011 3:31 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Oh I get it now. Those are the files kept on a Kindle, right?
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 21, 2011 3:32 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
This article on Cargo's fantasy value is sweet (and perceptive)
http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2011/11/14/2562028/dont-get-fooled-by-cargo
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And a nice little factoid from High Heat Stats you're probably all aware of, but I wasn't
In the 13th August 2005 game against Washington, the Rockies had the most men reach base in a shutout in the history of baseball (18).
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Huzzah?
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by Junction Rox on Dec 21, 2011 11:13 AM MST up reply actions
"nice little factoid"
hmmm…
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 21, 2011 11:16 AM MST up reply actions
I'm sure this has already been answered but could we still sign beltran?
He wants around 10 Mil, which we could handle, and then Wheeler and Smith could go for prado because Beltran, Dex, Cargo, Cuddy, Blackmon is plenty good for an OF. Cuddyer could be injury insurance and could go between RF, 1B, and 3B. The Blake signing makes it seem less likely but it would help our chances to get Prado.
CF Dex
2B Prado
LF Cargo
SS Tulo
RF Beltran
3B Cuddyer
1B Helton
C Hernandez
BE Pacheco
BE Blake
BE Blackmon
BE Giambi
BE Lemahieu (If he can play SS)
would be an incredible lineup. If we have the $$$ to make this happen (I think we might) then why not?
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I'd say the chances are slim
But I would like that from an offensive standpoint – I don’t know how much I’d like to see Cuddy at 3B though.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 11:28 AM MST up reply actions
Cuddyer wouldn't have to be at third all that often.
Helton/Giambi are very unlikely to be able to play every day.I assume that Cuddyer plays there relatively often as well as providing rest/insurance for oft injured beltran. If the Rockies are going to spend spending money instead of waiting on prospects, let’s spend money to get players, Cuddyer in no way puts us over the top.
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If Cuddyer's not putting us over the top
Signing Beltran in addition to Cuddyer won’t either – putting multiple plugs into one hole doesn’t help us if we still have other leaks. Having 5 all-star quality OFers doesn’t help when we are below replacement at 2B/SP. That lineup does look pretty, I just don’t see our resources being applied to Beltran/
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 11:37 AM MST up reply actions
I really don't see this happening either
That being said, I can’t think of a better way to allocate our resources. To me, the reason Cuddyer doesn’t put us over the top is because he is just replacing smith’s value with some more versatility. With only Cuddyer we apparently need Wheeler. With Beltran in the fold wheeler can upgrade our 2b (Prado). Beltran then significantly upgrades smith and cuddyer is a better wiggy. It upgrades two spots on the roster, and gives us a top lineup.
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Don't spend the money
and do one of the following:
1) Wait for pitching to become available (Kuroda, Jurrjens or Wandy would likely amount to adding salary in a trade)
2) Wait to see how the team performs through May-June, and decide whether to add pieces and make a run
3) Same as (2), but if the team is out of contention by the trade deadline, sell and keep the money for next off-season.
This this this
I like option 2 a lot.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 11:47 AM MST up reply actions
I think Beltran is worth more than
whatever pieces we trade for at the break, at least in relation to what we have to give up to get them.
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Out of context, sure.
But the marginal value of Beltran has lessened now that we’ve signed Cuddy.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 11:49 AM MST up reply actions
Even if Beltran is studly from April-July,
everything else, mainly the maturation of the young pitching, has to go right fort he Rockies to be in contention. Since Beltran is not a pitcher, his success or failure is not likely to influence the success (though it may raise the floor for failure) of the team.
This is true for any scenario
This team Will Not, Can Not win without growth and development from their young pitchers. A innings eater doesn’t change that
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Neither of those three pitchers mentioned are only innings eaters
They’d make an impact. So why preclude the team from signing a good starter, or another helpful addition in-season, by adding another position player that won’t put the team in contention?
The team can contend, strongly, if the young pitching develops and Cuddyer puts up a strong year. Beltran would be nice, but still unnecessary in that scenario.
My arguement is that Beltran helps us get Prado also
To get any of the aforemention pitchers it would take a total haul or significantly more money than Beltran. If your above scenario: Cuddyer hits, pitching develops, happens with beltran then we’re even better. We give up nothing but money to get Carlos. Midseason, we would give up money AND talent. thats a big difference to me
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I see your point
and agree that giving up money is better than money + prospects. However, another consideration is length of contract and total cost.
Prado, Jurrjens and Kuroda are all better from that POV because they the former two are team controlled for two more years for less annually than what Beltran would make, and Kuroda would be a one year deal (likely for less or the same as Beltran’s annual salary).
Wandy doesn’t fit that type of benefit because it would basically be adding a similar contract to Beltran – 2yr/$23M, plus an option.
Beltran would likely require 2-3yr at $11-14 per. What if he gets injured? What if nothing develops for the team? Then we’re stuck paying two mid-30s OFs, one an injury risk and the other a defensive liability, when OF is not really a problem because Dex and Cargo are team-controlled for awhile.
Also, maybe you explained that Dex would be moved or Cuddyer would play first/third if Beltran was acquired, but neither of those are likely scenarios. The team cannot succeed if Cuddy plays more than ten games at third base. So, then there’s an OF glut.
I see your point
I just disagree on the need for pitching vs. the need for offense i guess
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I'm not saying definitely do (A),
in my three possible scenarios, I’m just saying if there’s an immediate need to address in order to improve the team’s chances for 2012, it’s adding quality SP.
Short of that, I don’t think there’s a need to spend the money at all right now.
Hell, maybe some team signs Beltran or has another older quality player they want to dump for salary concerns at the deadline. Then, for a low-level prospect and 70 or 80% of the salary, the Rox can pick up a quality offensive piece to fill a hole.
forgot #4:
convince Jim Tracy that the world ended and make him live in an empty refridgerator at the dump.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 21, 2011 11:49 AM MST up reply actions 4 recs
/slow clap
/stands up
/claps harder
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Is DOD
Trying to take Tracy’s spot at a Casa Bonita birthday party?
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 11:51 AM MST up reply actions
REEEAAALLLY wants to see Black Bart's Cave.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 21, 2011 11:57 AM MST up reply actions
If you leave me now
You take away the biggest part of me. OoooohOoooohhhoooooOOOhhh.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 12:00 PM MST up reply actions
yes please
submitted while standing in line at the post office
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Get well soon Juan.
by Thnikkaman on Dec 21, 2011 12:09 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
I would agree with this
It would be fun watching the Rockies assemble that lineup. But if they actually spent that much in free agent money and in trades this offseason and didn’t get any starting pitching help, you’d have to talk me in on off the ledge.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 21, 2011 11:43 AM MST up reply actions
Yup
As much faith as I have in the upside of our Legion of Young Armz, having a solid veteran presence in the rotation would be a wise choice.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 11:45 AM MST up reply actions
Why do we need SP help?
Yeah, Yeah, Veteran innings eater, I know, I know. Those guys are often effective but are not always great pitchers, and have the same or worse injury rates as anyone else.
To me adding anyone else just slows the development of the guys we have
Chacin
Pomeranz
White
Nicasio
Please don’t make me list the rest.
Add in Hammel and JDLR as proven veterans and that’s a solid rotation.
We need more offense, not more pitchers. Adding Beltran would not only give us his production but enable us to get Prado.
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Cuddyer already enabled us to go after Prado
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 11:54 AM MST up reply actions
There is a large difference between the OFs
Dexter and Cargo are the center of both outfields leaving three guys:
With ONLY Cuddyer:
Cuddy (who will play @ 1B and 3B also)
Blackmon
Wheeler
The Rockies refuse to give up wheeler for Prado. I get the sense Colvin/Hoffmann is not a MLB player in their eyes.
Whereas with Beltran
Cuddy
Blackmon
Beltran
This Frees up Wheeler to be traded, without playing a minor league caliber guy in the bigs.
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It just doesn't make sense to me
to be paying 2 guys >$10M a year to compete for one outfield spot (I really really really don’t want to see Cuddy playing anywhere other than RF)
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 12:02 PM MST up reply actions
This this this ...
Though the jury is still out on 1st base if/when Todd can’t go.
by Traindogger on Dec 21, 2011 12:04 PM MST up reply actions
I suppose so
I guess I don’t want to see him playing 1B because that means Todd isn’t.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 1:24 PM MST up reply actions
I'd be fine with him at First Base too.
And we may be seeing him at third base regardless of who we sign. Beltran would not be on as long of a deal, and would not really have to share. Cuddyer would fill in anywhere for whoever is slumping (possible dex). Depth is not a bad thing to have. If we have the 10 million to spend, and not much more, then I can’t find a better way to spend it.
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this
Avalance 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
by Thnikkaman on Dec 21, 2011 12:10 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Gee I don't know
Maybe because we led the universe in walks and are among the worst teams in MLB in quality starts?
If you want to put your faith in the young guys and chalk 2012 up to rebuilding, I can understand that. But selling the farm for more offense and then thinking that this stable of starters is going to take you to the postseason – can’t see it.
Yeah there are a lot of annoying cliches out there regarding starting pitching. They got to be cliches by proving true year in and year out.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 21, 2011 12:57 PM MST up reply actions
Not gonna happen ...
We need pitching more than we need another OF’er … the ship sailed on Beltran when we signed Cuddyer.
by Traindogger on Dec 21, 2011 11:34 AM MST up reply actions
I assumed that too
And I’m not trying to begin the whole 1000 comment debate on Beltran again. I just think that the acquire all the young armz movement™ is enough on the mound and the rockies need to be bold. I only thought of this reading MLBTR’s suitors for beltran and noting them listing one unknown NL team as a suitor. I would be incredibly impressed with DOD if he pulled off something like this
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My goodness that looks great.
Too bad it’s not happening.
@DylanZable
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 21, 2011 11:34 AM MST up reply actions
How many times has everyone
been taken to the Gillette page today?
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 11:35 AM MST reply actions
none?
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Dec 21, 2011 11:39 AM MST up reply actions
this would be the correct answer.
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:-(
I guess I’m bad at clicking today.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 11:41 AM MST up reply actions
maybe the internetz are trying to get you to shave that goatee?
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Dec 21, 2011 11:40 AM MST up reply actions
It happens to me all the time.
Widescreen monitor means lots of margin for error.
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My blerg
i think my chrome adblocker blocks it
i can see that there is a link there (although i cant see the ad) but even when i click it I’m not taken to wherever the link points
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adblock plus for firefox
i deal with no ads
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Yeah I've got that at home
But my IT and Admin people are REALLY crazy about letting us install stuff on work computers… :-/
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 2:12 PM MST up reply actions
Ads pay for
us to have this website for free…I’m happy to have them around.
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by hotdoglady on Dec 21, 2011 2:13 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh
I’m not at all complaining about the ads – the post was supposed to be more self-deprecating about my lack of coordination. Purple Row has my express approval to stay free by any means possible :-)
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 2:16 PM MST up reply actions
I don't mind em
honestly become mostly immune.
But sometimes those nestea ones with the bikini clad butt make the sight a little less sfw than I’d like.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 21, 2011 2:29 PM MST up reply actions
I do love adblock on firefox
But sadly I love pretty much everything else about Opera more. So occasional gillette misclicks for me.
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My blerg
OT(ish): I sold a copy of my purple row print
to someone who works at coors field.
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Here is a framed version
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That is sick
I want one. How much?
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 11:51 AM MST up reply actions
That size framed and matted as you see
is going to be $250 – j
ust a print starts at 15 dollars depending on the size you want.
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Perfect
After the holiday season cools down a bit, I might hit you up. I’m a little broke right now.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 11:56 AM MST up reply actions
Wow! that looks great.
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by Charlie77 on Dec 21, 2011 11:52 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
The matte on there is beautiful ..
did you touch up the shadows in the ‘darkroom’?
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by Charlie77 on Dec 21, 2011 11:55 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Very little darkroom work
mostly just some dust removal.
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Your depth of field is amazing on this shot..
where you in a macro filter?
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by Charlie77 on Dec 21, 2011 11:59 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Nope
just my trusty 17-85mm lens.
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drool..
I need to get me one of those.
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by Charlie77 on Dec 21, 2011 7:06 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Just finished reading using the new Droid app.
It’s so much easier following the thread than in mobile browsing.
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by Charlie77 on Dec 21, 2011 11:57 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Stunning work!
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
OT ish:
Apparently this will be here soon:
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 21, 2011 12:01 PM MST up reply actions
This looks so damn good in person
My pants became moist when I saw it.
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yep, can't wait.
definitely looks better in that picture than on my phone.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 21, 2011 12:03 PM MST up reply actions
So much for the rumor mill.....
Of the scores of names tossed around this offseason, I honestly can’t remember the rumor mill having a thing to say about Kevin Slowey, Ramon Hernandez or Casey Blake coming to the Rox before they got here.
Just goes to show that, when it matters, GMs still play it very close to the vest and the folks pumping out rumor and speculation aren’t always as clued in as it seems.
That said, I will still listen to rumors and speculation all day long, ‘cause they’re fun. Just not always especially useful when reality hits, alas. But I’m pretty sure we all already knew that….
Right - I guess I was speaking about recent chatter
You didn’t really hear his name in the mix leading up to getting him.
And Casey Blake really did come out of the blue, as least as far as I’ve been paying attention. I’m sure somebody, somewhere connected the Rox to him in the past week or so but I didn’t catch it.
He was connected in SI, I think.
But he fits the mold of the IFs the Rockies seem to like acquiring (cheap, “flexible”), so I guess that’s why I wasn’t shocked.
Hernandez was a little more outside the box, as far as I recall.
I advocated for Blake a bit here and elsewhere I really like him at that price.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Slightly OT: Good article contrasting sports leagues in North America and Europe
Much of it is advocating for a relegation-style system in North American sports.
mong other conclusions is something I never considered: the easiest way to level the financial playing field between the Yankees, Phillies, etc. and the rest of MLB is to introduce more teams to the larger markets. Consider that for most of the first half of the twentieth century, Philadelphia had the A’s and the Phillies, New York had the Giants, Dodgers and Yankees, and Boston had the Braves and Red Sox.
I’m grateful that expansion has brought us all together on Purple Row, but there is something to be said for expanding in smaller markets (Tampa Bay) while allowing large markets (New York, Philadelphia, Boston, LA) to remain monopolies or duopolies.
Very very good read.
I would love to see a European system in North America.
I believe.
by Lost Winter on Dec 21, 2011 12:45 PM MST up reply actions
I've long wanted to see a promotion/relegation system in the NBA
I think college sports could benefit from one, too.
I’m not so sure about the argument that more teams levels the playing field, however. European sports leagues are notoriously top-heavy. When was the last time Manchester United or FC Barcelona wasn’t one of the top teams in their respective leagues?
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My blerg
about right now
Manchester city (my team) are currently top and are currently leading 3-0. And all it took was a bazillion Abu dhabi pounds.
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by djmbluemoon on Dec 21, 2011 2:09 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
And yet...
the Europa League
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
lalalalalalalala
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by djmbluemoon on Dec 21, 2011 2:46 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Well, ManU is still one of the top teams
even if they’re not the tippy-top.
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My blerg
Yeah it's actually an excellent point
I’m just giddy after 40 years of suckiness
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by djmbluemoon on Dec 21, 2011 2:47 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
payroll pretty much equates to record in soccer
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The other half of the arguement is that the Europeans allow their teams to play where the market demands it
rather than where the owners demand it. If it wasn’t for the ability of owners to veto franchise locations, there’d certainly be more teams competing in the bigger markets.
Similarly, Washington DC wouldn’t have gotten three opportunities to not support a major league baseball team. DC would be analogous to Bristol in the story.
It's definitely an interesting argument
I’ve been reading through the comments on the original article, and there are excellent points made both in favor of and against the EPL system. For my part, I’m not fully persuaded by either side.
Thanks for the link.
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My blerg
The Bristol analogy is a flawed one, though.
Bristol Rovers and Bristol City are both clubs with long and prestigious histories, even if they’ve not had a lot of success in recent decades. The fact that there are 92 clubs in the EPL/football league, and their positions therein change often, means that these strange disparities will happen often.
Right not, although there are only two Manchester teams in the EPL, there are several others – Wigan, Blackburn, Bolton – in roughly the same geographical area – certainly much closer to each other than most US team are. So that’s 5 out of 20 teams within 30 miles of central Manchester (7 if you count Liverpool and Everton).
But, a decade or two ago, Bolton, Wigan and Blackburn (and Manchester City at times!) were in lower leagues, so United were the only bastion of NW football in the top flight. And the fact that it can and does change is, I think, a beautiful thing.
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Maybe I don't understand the promotion/relegation system right
But wouldn’t this just mean we see the Yankees and Red Sox playing in the top league every year?
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 2:11 PM MST up reply actions
Without a salary cap and revenue sharing
It leads to a huge imbalance (more than already) of how the finances are distributed with the teams in the top ‘league’ getting far more than the teams in the lower tiers and thus leading to a continuously widening gap in quality between the top and bottom.
Of course American sports have significant restrictions on an imbalance of resources such as the draft and tougher labor regulations that European soccer leagues just don’t have (but desperately need to improve competitiveness IMO)
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by djmbluemoon on Dec 21, 2011 2:15 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
I suppose
If enough teams popped up in New York or Boston or LA, it could make things interesting – the only problem is fans are so entrenched at this point (especially in baseball). A Yankee fan who’s father and father’s father and father’s father’s father all lived and died with the pinstripes is not very likely to start supporting some fledgling new team. But it’s a fascinating idea and, if pulled off right, could make US sports much more interesting.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 21, 2011 2:32 PM MST up reply actions
The funny thing about the US system
Is that it’s basically communism. In other words, when a sporting society gets to choose what system it uses to best cater for its members needs, it chooses one that it abhors in a social or political context.
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The main thing that impresses me about the US system
Is that the system means that the MLB/NFL whoever do what’s best for the sport as a whole (theoretically!) realising that that gives them the best product. In the UK, each club does what’s best for itself, which isn’t necessarily in the greater good.
You can call it communism, but political terms shouldn’t really apply to sports. By franchising teams it means the sport caters for all in that it provides the most competitive product for the fans and a legitimate business investment for the owners. The UK version does neither.
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by djmbluemoon on Dec 22, 2011 6:32 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
The UK system wouldn't do something as flabbergastingly soulless as
Giving Milton Keynes a team for no reason at a… oh.
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btw "communism" isn't meant as a negative
Far from it. And I wish UK sport had more communistic aspects to it, definitiely. But the romance and heritage of teams being started by local lads from pits and factories and, uh, public schools and building from tiny roots has a lot going for it over a massive, emotionless lottery.
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They have a long football history
At the national hockey stadium.
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by djmbluemoon on Dec 22, 2011 8:16 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
I feel like the Twins of the Mid 2000's
when we signed a different washed up player every year
I hope Casey Blake can take these feelings away
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
Those Twins made the playoffs every year, as I recall.
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by Franchise26 on Dec 21, 2011 12:31 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
love me some Brett Boone, Tony Batista, Brian Buscher, Jeff Cirillo, Mike Lamb
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 21, 2011 12:45 PM MST up reply actions
Can Carlos Santana play third as well as he plays guitar?
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Dec 21, 2011 12:43 PM MST up reply actions
You doubt it?
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Not really. But he's a busy guy.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Dec 21, 2011 12:53 PM MST up reply actions
All I know is that it's a good thing that
we have the beardage corner coverage. So yeah for Casey Blake. And now I have to take back every bad thing I’ve ever said about. him .no I don’t.
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Ha! Nicely done!
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Scott Hairston and Seth Smith would actually be an awesome platoon
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At least now he will use his talent for good rather than evil.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Dec 21, 2011 12:45 PM MST up reply actions
Let's hope so.
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Correction
At least now he will use his talent for good awesome rather than evil.
Avalance 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
does casey blake's facial hair makeup for the loss of spilly's?
i think we took a step back here
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Dexter Fowler was on MLB Network Radio on Sirius XM...
Here are some highlights:
- talked about the Cuddyer addition; mentioned that you corner outfielders take the lines, I’ve got the gaps
- was asked about switch hitting; says he’s comfortable with it now… just needed experience
- asked about his style of game; he’s an OBP guy, trying any way to get on base, and will continue to do that
- talked about his leg kick he added and if that was a sticking point when he struggled
- shared stories about his trip to Europe with Prince Fielder, Bobby Bonilla and someone else (drawing a blank); would not commit on a prediction on where Prince would end up
- Bobby Bo told him to just hit right handed during BP since he would be getting plenty of hacks from left handed side; Jim Duquette thought he shouldn’t listen to the advice
Here is a snippet of the interview. He was on for about 10-15 minutes.
I don't like the sound of this trip to Europe business.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Dec 21, 2011 12:54 PM MST up reply actions
Why?
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Meh. I'm not worried about it.
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it wasn't in late January though
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 21, 2011 12:57 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
He also
went to work out with Matt Kemp after the trip. I’m not worried about it.
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JFK
Maybe he's convincing Prince to come play in Colorado.
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Get well soon Juan.
trade Giambi!
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by djmbluemoon on Dec 21, 2011 12:59 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
For what?
Half a bag of sunflower seeds and a rosin bag?
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Get well soon Juan.
Miracle whip
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Also mentioned...
- a trip to Turkey with fiancee prior to the Europe trip
- his inside knowledge about the NBA season coming back
yeah hes done pretty well for himself
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Giggity.
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
Luftfeuchtigkeitsregler über alles.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 21, 2011 3:27 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I thought
Tebowing was the new planking
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by djmbluemoon on Dec 21, 2011 1:03 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
All the Tebowing makes me
want to drive a plank through my head. Does that count?
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/Tebows
"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
To make it up to Cat...
I’ve asked her in the OT to contact me about a job….
"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
My best friend invented Tebowing
For the record.
your best friend is jesus?
arenado: it's Rockie for future
the tube socks-wearing jesus from SNL?
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Dec 21, 2011 2:27 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
"I throw better than that, and I'm 2010 years old!"
by Northsider1964 on Dec 21, 2011 2:58 PM MST up reply actions
That, and Belichick as the Devil
I almost fell on the floor laughing.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 21, 2011 3:02 PM MST up reply actions
@MLBFakeRumors
Three dead, two injured as Baseball Reference (@baseball_ref) vomits HoF Candidate links all over Twitter.
Some days, I feel like I’ve accidentally entered the Church of Tulowitzki on Baseball Easter.
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It wasn't even 20 tweets.
Damn Twitter drama queens…
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 21, 2011 1:08 PM MST up reply actions
Just reading Grant's article on the NL West
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2011/12/19/2647145/the-state-of-the-nl-west
This gif came up
How have I not seen that yet?
by BrazenAbyss on Dec 21, 2011 1:45 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Everyday I'm shuffilin'
Avalance 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
by Thnikkaman on Dec 21, 2011 1:54 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
That whole article is amazing.
Love Grant’s work.
@DylanZable
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 21, 2011 1:59 PM MST up reply actions
This pretty well sums up my problem with the Cuddyer signing
The Rockies decided to take a step back in their plans to contend, trading Ubaldo Jimenez away for two premium pitching prospects. They were going to take it slow, knowing that Tulowitzki and Gonzalez were going to be around for a few years, and they were going to build at their own pace with SURPRISE $30 MILLION DEAL TO MICHAEL CUDDYER. Bam! Because if there’s one thing the Rockies are terrible at, it’s finding random outfielders to field poorly and hit .270/.340/.440.
But can Seth Smith play third base
/smug
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by djmbluemoon on Dec 21, 2011 2:10 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
But what about his clubhouse presence? It's about his intangibles.
And the fact he can play 1B for the days Helton needs a rest.
But, yeah, I agree it was too much money for too many years for the role that is expected of him.
Agreed
Hilarious, but also quite insightful.
It’s kind of terrifying that the Padres might be the only reasonable front office in the division. Especially because that puts a lot of pressure on me as the PRMLB GM of the Padres.
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I would love to see a Guzman gb to 1b
And Todd to shuffle to first in that fashion for the out.
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by djmbluemoon on Dec 21, 2011 1:59 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
excellent
arenado: it's Rockie for future
But to me, it looks like there's a slow carbon monoxide leak in just about every office in the NL West.
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Todd Frazier or Martin Prado...
Frazier 26 – Pros: Younger, pre-peak, more versatility (can play SS in a pinch) more power, could cost less in trade. Will cost less in salary. Well thought of by scouts, natural 2B. Cons: lacks MLB experience, so could be AAAA.
Prado 28 – Pros: proven, with very good 2008-2010 results and still somewhat young. Solid IF defense at second and third. Cons: dropped off a cliff in 2011 production and could have peaked, costs more in trade and salary, sliding on the defensive spectrum into a most natural 3B fit.
I bring this up because I think there’s a fairlty realistic chance that the Rockies wind up trading Smith for Frazier rather than Prado. There seems to be an open dialog with O’Dowd and the Reds Walt Jocketty still going on regarding Smith.
Yes O'Dowd.
Get Todd Frazier.
@DylanZable
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 21, 2011 2:25 PM MST up reply actions
In the 1998 Little League World Series, Frazier, who was 12 at the time, was the main star for the Toms River, New Jersey team that won the championship that season by defeating Japan. Frazier went 4-for-4 with a clutch, late-inning home run that helped the Toms River team defeat Japan. After that game, the team was on every talk show from Rosie O’Donnell to Oprah Winfrey
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 21, 2011 2:29 PM MST up reply actions
Does clutchiness carry over from when you're 12?
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It only gets better.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 21, 2011 2:31 PM MST up reply actions
the only clutch he had when he was 12
was when he was helping his uncle get some more horsepower out of the camaro.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 21, 2011 2:32 PM MST up reply actions
Bitchin'
Some days, I feel like I’ve accidentally entered the Church of Tulowitzki on Baseball Easter.
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Yes yes it does
In the June 2004 MLB Draft, Frazier was selected in the 37th round by the Colorado Rockies but did not sign with them because of his scholastic obligations to Rutgers University.
Bleacher Report on Todd Frazier
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 21, 2011 2:32 PM MST up reply actions
If that is your criteria for signing
Does that mean we should sign Sean Burroughs for third? He was a bigger LLWS star than he ever was in the majors.
I'd approve
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 21, 2011 2:27 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
6’3" 220 @ 2B is impressive
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 21, 2011 2:28 PM MST up reply actions
along those same lines, Frazier has shown substantially better splits against LHP throughout his pro career. He’s a likely target for us.
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He should come pretty cheap.
We should get more for Seth Smith than just Todd Frazier. I like the move though.
@DylanZable
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 21, 2011 2:45 PM MST up reply actions
probably mike leake too I would think
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 21, 2011 2:46 PM MST up reply actions
Wow... I'm an idiot...
On April 18, Leake was arrested by the Cincinnati Police for shoplifting six American Rag T-shirts worth $59.88 from the Macy’s store in downtown Cincinnati. He was charged with theft, a misdemeanor in the State of Ohio that carries a maximum sentence of 180 days in jail if convicted. Leake has no known prior convictions.18 The arrest and following comments hurt Leake’s public image. He told the arresting officer his place of employment was “Reds Stadium”, not Great American Ball Park. Leake, who happened to have purchased an equal value of shirts earlier from Macy’s, claimed he was trying to make an even exchange without talking to employees or going to customer service.19 Leake pleaded guilty to a reduced charge of unauthorized use of property and entered a court-sponsored diversion program. He was required to complete 30 hours of community service and counseling, upon which his case will be dismissed. Leake apologized and called his mistake “a boneheaded move”.20
Yep, I remember that.
Stole $60 worth of clothes. Gawd.
@DylanZable
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 21, 2011 2:50 PM MST up reply actions
I know this was light-hearted, but...
in fairness to Leake, the episode seemed to be more about him being an idiot and not understanding return policy, and not him being a chronic shoplifter.
Shoplifting T’s is frowned upon?
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 21, 2011 2:49 PM MST up reply actions
well they're keeping that rowdy drunk pomeranz
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Me too, the rates at his savings and loan
are so much better than those available through Mr. Potter.
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not my kind of name for a pitcher @ Coors
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 21, 2011 2:50 PM MST up reply actions
No way Reds trade pitching
Their rotation next year is Latos-Leake-Arroyo-Bailey-Cueto. If they traded another starter they’d really be banking on Chapman transitioning to the rotation
Your 2012 Colorado Rockies:freshly exorcised from Ty Wigginton
it was a joke
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 21, 2011 3:03 PM MST up reply actions
Oh my bad haha
Your 2012 Colorado Rockies:freshly exorcised from Ty Wigginton
secondly, that rotation could use a lefty
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 21, 2011 3:03 PM MST up reply actions
They are banking on that, though.
but I agree that it’s unlikely they trade anymore pitching, which is why I’m guessing that any ongoing Rockies talks with them for Smith have probably been centered mostly around Frazier.
Who goes to the pen then?
Your 2012 Colorado Rockies:freshly exorcised from Ty Wigginton
Marshall, Bray and Arredondo would be my guess for the back end at the moment,
but I’m guessing they will sign another reliever or two too. The front end of that pen will probably still have their standard Masset/Ondrusek types.
Frazier's a natural second baseman? I'll always thought he played third
Seth Smith is an absolute perfect fit for the Reds though. Like, he makes more sense for them than any other potential Smith pursuer.
Your 2012 Colorado Rockies:freshly exorcised from Ty Wigginton
I know nothing about Frazier but am certainly not stuck on Prado, so if the price is right and he is what every here seems to hope he is than I’d be more than fine with it.
Bruce Levine reports Cubs and Reds agree in principle to trade sending Sean Marshall to cinci for lefty Travis Wood and 2 minor leaguers.
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
Cue Roxfan4life coming in and posting the video of CarGo's walk off shot against Marshall in 2010...
@DylanZable
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 21, 2011 2:57 PM MST up reply actions
I was sitting with my
cubs fan GF on the 3B side, club level looking straight down the foul line when CarGo hit that monster bomb. Was one of the greatest moments I’ve been a part of at coors. That was a ridiculous bomb. I dumped the girl a within a few months after realizing cubs fans are a whacky bunch.
Ask and ye shall receive. Oh by the way, check the name again. LOL
http://colorado.rockies.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=10490435
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LOL.
My apologies Roxman4ever :P
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 21, 2011 7:26 PM MST up reply actions
Roxman, Roxfan. I can see the reason why you got confused
Once you see one, you’ve seen them all.
60 (yes that is only 2 months away) today, 59 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
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Let me add
purplerowtroller and Purple Row Troll. I know this was a problem earlier this week.
Also, you got me and the regular Roxman. I know we confused several people during last season. Not intentional. It even confused me sometimes.
Idontknowownname.
60 (yes that is only 2 months away) today, 59 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
by Roxman4ever on Dec 21, 2011 10:46 PM MST up reply actions
Rox Girl & Russ
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Dec 22, 2011 12:02 AM MST up reply actions
eno sarris at fangraphs
likes the blake signing, and thinks nelson projects best of our myriad 2B/3B types
arenado: it's Rockie for future
that would be because Chris nelson is awesome
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 21, 2011 2:32 PM MST up reply actions
not been freed enough
arenado: it's Rockie for future
He needs to jump the rocks that encompass the pool he is trapped in.
Avalance 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
Good Article by Jazayerli
Interesting to think that the sports world is always about the next big thing. The next Lebron, Sidney, high school all star, prospect coming up. The value of the next big thing right now is huge. Bryce harper and Strasburg are the next big things of baseball and get lots of attention.
My follow up thought to this is that the next big thing is so valubable, however, young prospects barely get a lick of a chance anymore and if they fail early its on to the next big thing. Its sad, but its the sports world now, in baseball you don’t even get more than a half season of MLB at bats, and they may not even be in succession, may be the combination of multiple stints during a year, and if you don’t perform, bam your done on to the next AA prospect thats hitting .290/.404/.780.
Prospects are valued so much, then they get a small chance, and if they fail its on to the next one. Tough world
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I don't know about that...
see, eg, Brandon Wood in Rox jersey.
Jason Grey is a Ray
if you know him, you’ll find this interesting. if not, you won’t care
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 21, 2011 3:02 PM MST via Android app reply actions
right in two
arenado: it's Rockie for future
I just looked him up
Now I find this interesting
PRMLB - Tampa Bay Rays
he DM'd me on Twitter a bunch this March
when he was seeing Tyler Matzek. very knowledgeable and helpful
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 21, 2011 3:43 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
so i guess john danks is officially off the market
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Why?
It’s seems like a fair deal.
He’s 26 and 3 of his last 4 years were very solid. Not worth trading pieces for AND then having to sign but definitely worth resigning when he’s on your squad.
Billingsley only signed for three years, Wandy only signed for three...
Going to five years with any pitcher is dangerous and exposes a club to a lot of unnecessary risk as there will almost always be similar pitchers of like quality on the market later. I get it when it’s a really young player like Matt Moore, and the total loss risk isn’t as great at the tail end of a contract, but in a FA situation or an extension like this, I agree with the prevailing wisdom that three should be the maximum you should go. If it’s a true ace, a Halladay or Kershaw or Lincecum, you can make exceptions, but not on a guy like Danks.
I thought the 3 year limit referred to closers.
Which I buy into.
Starters I am open to negotiating with and I don’t have a problem with 5 years for a 26 year old starter whose developed a pretty even track record with his club.
To me, it really should refer to all non-ace pitchers.
There’s just so much that can go wrong so quickly. I think you’d be much safer guessing that both the Danks and C.J. Wilson deals turn out to be albatrosses than to guess they both turn out well. The same would still be true if they were both 26. Age doesn’t really matter as much as wear and tear on an arm, and both those arms are fairly well worn at this point.
I agree with the principle...
But you’re not going to keep any staff intact long enough without taking a risk here and there. Some teams have the pitching depth to afford not being able to go four years or more on any pitcher that’s closing in on FA status, but not very many. Maybe a handful, 10 tops. When the guy’s well on the right side of 30, you have to take that chance sometimes.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
by cthabeerman on Dec 22, 2011 12:16 AM MST up reply actions
i agree
it seems to be around market rate, and there’s a very good chance he’ll provide significant excess value
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Jason Marquis to Twins...
this kinda feels like the Twins saying, “Take this, Rockies!”… and then they realize he was only here for a year… and what ended up being his last playoff season in that streak of his.
Twins or Tigers?
According to FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal, the Tigers are close to signing free agent Jason Marquis.
Marquis, 33, posted a decent 4.43 ERA in 23 starts this past year for the Nationals and Diamondbacks, striking out 76 batters and issuing 46 walks in 132 innings. He’s not much of a fantasy option, but the 33-year-old right-hander should bring quality depth to the back end of the Detroit starting rotation. The Mets had also expressed interest.
Source: Ken Rosenthal on Twitter
Dec 21 – 10:20 PM
Here is what I saw...
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 12m
Source: #Twins close to signing free-agent RHP Jason Marquis. #MLB
Make up your mind Rosenthal!
All I did was copy and paste a blurb from a poster at another site, who also said it was the Twins (while citing the blurb that it was the Tigers). Probably is the Twins.
According to FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal, the Twins are close to signing free agent Jason Marquis.
Marquis, 33, posted a decent 4.43 ERA in 23 starts this past year for the Nationals and Diamondbacks, striking out 76 batters and issuing 43 walks in 132 innings. He’s not much of a fantasy option, but the 33-year-old right-hander should bring quality depth to the back end of the Twins’ starting rotation. The Mets had also expressed interest.
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I dont know if everyone else got this but I find it cool
60 (yes that is only 2 months away) today, 59 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
by Roxman4ever on Dec 21, 2011 10:06 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Im off to bed. Had an early morning.
4 year old had an MRI this morning. Im pooped. He got some really good sleep for about an hour or so. I hope he aint up all night.
60 (yes that is only 2 months away) today, 59 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
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holy shit dude, is everything OK?
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 21, 2011 11:34 PM MST up reply actions
Yea, he is ok.
He has a condition called Optic Nerve Hypoplasia. His optic nerve in his right eye in underdeveloped. They did the MRI to check his pituitary gland. Its normal. It jsut isnt producing enough growth hormone.
60 (yes that is only 2 months away) today, 59 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
by Roxman4ever on Dec 22, 2011 12:02 PM MST up reply actions
Great to hear
"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." ~Tallulah Bankhead
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~Greg, age 8
JFK
so therefore, he will be getting shots of growth hormone everyday.
58 today, 57 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
That
does not sound fun at all
"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." ~Tallulah Bankhead
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~Greg, age 8
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Like I said in today's RP. He will go to bed one night short, and the next night. He will be Paul Bunyun
58 today, 57 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
LMAO
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Trashing Yuniesky has become internet sport—not that far removed, at this point, from making fun of the kid with glasses in the lunch room.
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