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Saturday Rockpile: Rockies Looking for Pitching, But Apparently Not Very Hard

According to Jon Morosi, the Rockies continue to seek another starting pitcher, but are not looking seriously at two of the best candidates for their situation, Hiroki Kuroda and Joe Saunders.

Look, I know very well that Kuroda is probably a long shot, considering all indications are that he won't want to come here even if the Rockies offered comparable money to that of teams like the Dodgers or Diamondbacks. However, it appears that they're not even going to try at this point, as the team apparently believes his camp's asking price is too high. As for Saunders, his overall numbers aren't great (and haven't been since 2008, when he posted a 131 ERA+, but he had a good year last year in the NL West and his groundball tendencies certainly are a fit for what the Rox are generally looking for. That said, he's starting to generate some interest among other teams, and the Rockies are never too excited to get into bidding wars.

As far as free agent pitchers are concerned, all that's left after that is Edwin Jackson, a guy who has had a league-average or better season (in terms of ERA+) in four out of the past six. Granted, he was less-than-stellar in his last NL West stint (82 ERA+ with the D-Backs in 2010), but he's only 28 years old, and fits the profile of the innings-eater that the Rox so desperately want/need. Problem is, Scott Boras will likely command something similar to what John Danks received from the White Sox - something in the 5-year, $65 million range. You and I both know the Rockies won't get involved with that.

So, where do the Rox go from here? Surprise trade? Sitting on their hands just hoping somebody (Jhoulys Chacin, we're looking at you, bud) already in-house steps up and hurls 220 effective innings? One thing is for sure - the Rox need to step up their game if they want to have any chance of landing the kind of pitcher they need (and are supposedly looking for).

More after the jump...

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Krieger: Only fair to give Rockies some props in Hall voting - Denver Post

Dave Krieger says he'll take it upon himself to try and keep Vinny Castilla on the HOF ballot for another year, as he's going to vote for the former Colorado third baseman this year. Castilla has no business being in the Hall, and the same can be said for other former Rockies who have been on the ballot but did not receive enough votes to stay there (Dante Bichette, Ellis Burks, Andres Galarraga). However, as I've said before, I firmly believe that Larry Walker does indeed belong, as his career 142 wRC+ (including no season below 100 following his rookie campaign) would suggest. Let's hope Larry receives more votes than he did last year and starts to make a steady climb toward 75%.

Rox to unveil new road uniforms at fan event in January? - Troy Renck (Twitter)

For those of you weirdos who love this kind of stuff like I do, it appears that after a few months of rumors, the Rox will indeed be sporting new uniforms on the road for 2012. And, with my excellent sports merchandise-searching skills, I think I have found a preliminary version of the new get-ups:

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via i.imgur.com

Assuming the piping ends up being more purple than blue, this is a good look for the Rox. It's very similar to their road jersey from the early days, though those ones had 'ROCKIES' across the chest rather than 'COLORADO.'

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I guess Maholm and Millwood are still FA options

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by Resolution on Dec 24, 2011 10:43 AM MST reply actions  

I'm fine with that actually.

Obviously I would like someone a little better but Maholm would be a nice fit and we already know Millwood likes it here.

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by jrockies on Dec 24, 2011 10:53 AM MST up reply actions  

he's a groundballer with good peripherals

So yes. He is a good fit.

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by Andrew Martin on Dec 24, 2011 1:05 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Maholm would be nice

consistently around 50% GB, low HR %, threw around 200 IP 2 years ago. only this year he had a strained shoulder and landed on the 60 day.
We might get Niese for Smith + couple prospects.

Staring out the window, waiting for spring.

by Zatch on Dec 24, 2011 5:00 PM MST up reply actions  

I was down with Maholm until I saw his career line at Coors.

by Adam2011 on Dec 24, 2011 5:41 PM MST up reply actions  

What's the line? And how many innings has he worked here?

out of curiosity. Is it mostly sample size, or is it enough that it’s a disturbing trend?

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by EmersonCR on Dec 24, 2011 6:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Coors...

8.75 ERA, 4 losses, 24 runs given up in 4 games at coors, from the last 3 years. including 5 hrs, and a .366 avg.
so maybe not so much.

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by Zatch on Dec 24, 2011 7:51 PM MST up reply actions  

I would be worried about his arm falling off

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by jrockies on Dec 25, 2011 12:55 AM MST up reply actions  

100 4-inning games then.

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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 25, 2011 12:56 AM MST up reply actions  

exactly

career stats vs an opponent usually has zero meaning. career stats at a specific park halves the sample size.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 25, 2011 8:45 AM MST via Android app up reply actions  

Line at Coors

7 starts, 7.13 ERA, 1.848 whip, 1-6 record.

He gets his K’s here at a 7.6 k/9 rate, 2.5:1 K to BB ratio here but he still gets shelled.

by Adam2011 on Dec 25, 2011 8:53 AM MST up reply actions  

in 7 starts

again, insufficient sample.

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by Andrew Martin on Dec 25, 2011 9:50 AM MST up reply actions  

I think its sufficient

If he started his season out with that stat line I’d be screaming for his removal from the rotation.

by Adam2011 on Dec 25, 2011 11:13 AM MST up reply actions  

It's 7 games

I am willing to consider that a red flag for Maholm.

by Adam2011 on Dec 25, 2011 8:48 AM MST up reply actions  

Renck also tweeted that he sees a Wade Davis trade as the most likely scenario at this point.

Davis, for all his hype worries me a bit as he’s never quite put it together to be better than a 5th starter. What’s more, I think any benefit he might get with a move to the NL might be overshadowed by the hit he’ll have to take moving out of Tampa’s pitching friendly environs. No qualified MLB starter had a higher xFIP than Davis in 2011.

by Rox Girl on Dec 24, 2011 10:47 AM MST reply actions  

Pass on Davis

He’s regressed every year and is living off his rookie numbers.

by Adam2011 on Dec 24, 2011 5:42 PM MST up reply actions  

JFK's Quote of the Day:

“People say I don’t have great tools. They say that I can’t throw like Ellis Valentine or run like Tim Raines or hit with power like Mike Schmidt. Who can? I make up for it in other ways, by putting out a little bit more. That’s my theory, to go through life hustling. In the big leagues, hustle usually means being in the right place at the right time. It means backing up a base. It means backing up your teammate. It means taking that headfirst slide. It means doing everything you can do to win a baseball game.” ~Pete Rose

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by jrockies on Dec 24, 2011 10:58 AM MST reply actions  

I liked the stripeless roadies.

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by jrockies on Dec 24, 2011 10:59 AM MST reply actions  

Help request

Can anyone point me to the instructions for posting a saved picture on the site?
I’ve got a Rockies holiday treat I’d like to share, but can’t find the “how to” instructions.
This site sure is hard to navigate.

by maris61 on Dec 24, 2011 11:08 AM MST reply actions  

Yeah... about that...

As long as the image is saved on an outside account that allows file-sharing (and if it’s not copyright restricted) you can just click the icon of the tree in the comment and paste the image URL into that. For instance, inputting the Wikipedia image file of the Rockies uniforms gives you this:

If you’re asking about saving images to said outside account, or for where they are these days, somebody else will probably be better answering that.

by Rox Girl on Dec 24, 2011 11:18 AM MST up reply actions  

I use tinypic.com for that sort of thing.

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by Yokel on Dec 24, 2011 11:23 AM MST up reply actions  

Thanks

I at least got the link to post, though I couldn’t get the actual image to do so.

by maris61 on Dec 24, 2011 11:56 AM MST up reply actions  

Bah Humbug. Dislike the new road jersey :(

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by SDcat09 on Dec 24, 2011 11:18 AM MST reply actions  

If that's the new design, it's pretty austere. I read a paper once that pointed out how sports uniforms

would tend to become more drab and less stylized or colorful during slow economic periods, and add more color and ornamentation during times of robust economic growth. This seems to fit that pattern, but the Marlins new unis seem to be going against that grain.

by Rox Girl on Dec 24, 2011 11:27 AM MST up reply actions  

I can understand the idea of being austere.

It’s not like our jerseys are particularly ostentatious anyway. Purple pinstripes with gray fabric is rather sedate. Maybe this style will just be the alternate road jerseys…I hope.

I wonder what a solid purple with black piping would like in this same style….?

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by SDcat09 on Dec 24, 2011 11:39 AM MST up reply actions  

But we don't have blue as any of our colors.....

also

GET OFF MY LAWN ;D

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by SDcat09 on Dec 24, 2011 12:02 PM MST up reply actions  

The 1970s were a very difficult economic period...

And they gave us the yellow Padres, A’s, and Pirates. The rainbow Astros, and powder blue road unis. The’90s were boom years and most baseball unis got simpler and more traditional.

I have always though the road pinstripes were a little busy.

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by Since1993 on Dec 24, 2011 4:41 PM MST up reply actions  

The new Marlins Unis would go against my grain any time.

They are truly ugly. Bring back the teal!

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by Oldfoagie on Dec 24, 2011 6:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Why spend the money on new uniforms when we could've spent that money on Beltran?

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by Roxman4ever on Dec 24, 2011 8:00 PM MST up reply actions  

OT: Is everyone watching the broncos game?

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by jlbroxfan on Dec 24, 2011 11:20 AM MST reply actions  

I am watching Carols from King's College, Cambridge

And writign a review of a documentary on Jane Austen Tough to make it funny (as has been requested) but I’m having a stab. Might ask FI#26 to give it a comedy punch-up once I’m done.

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by biondino on Dec 24, 2011 11:57 AM MST up reply actions  

I remember hearing that the new unis would essentially be ditching the pinstripes

so those seem accurate.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 24, 2011 11:49 AM MST via Android app reply actions  

Are we ditching the white with pinstripes? Because that would be a bad idea....

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by SDcat09 on Dec 24, 2011 11:53 AM MST up reply actions  

no

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 24, 2011 11:59 AM MST via Android app up reply actions  

Whew..:D

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by SDcat09 on Dec 24, 2011 12:00 PM MST up reply actions  

only road greys are changing, as I understand it

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 24, 2011 12:14 PM MST via Android app up reply actions  

Couldn't make the image itself post

But this is a link to a Colorado Rockies cookie my daughter made for me.
And a baseball bat.

by maris61 on Dec 24, 2011 11:56 AM MST up reply actions  

That's awesome

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by SDcat09 on Dec 24, 2011 12:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Make it green.

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by Roxman4ever on Dec 24, 2011 8:02 PM MST up reply actions  

If that wasn't from your daughter

I’d be making a joke about the bat right now

by Purple Row Troll on Dec 24, 2011 12:58 PM MST reply actions  

I may be alone here

But if Ejax could be talked down to 3 years, I might be interested.

Pitching is expensive, and unless we can actually get some of ours to pan out, we’re going to have to pay the premium.

I still have the same general wariness I’ve had about Jackson the past few years, but he is sort of what we’re looking for.

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by Andrew Martin on Dec 24, 2011 1:10 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions  

It's not just an ordinary premium, though.

Agents for younger pitchers like Jackson will steer clear of CO because they’ll be thinking ahead to the next contract as well. There will be a few cases where no $ amount will be satisfactory if the duration doesn’t suit. For Jackson, I’m guessing that the Rockies would need to offer at least five years when other teams will be able to offer 3.

by Rox Girl on Dec 24, 2011 1:22 PM MST up reply actions  

yep, I can't disagree with a word there.

I just wanted to name my terms.

Sigh.

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by Andrew Martin on Dec 24, 2011 1:32 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions  

The jerseys look a little batting practicey...

But assuming the piping will be purple, I think I like them for the road.

I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.

by prettyinpurple on Dec 24, 2011 1:25 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

They don't look BP at all

If you remove the stripes from the pants (which would happen) they look pretty nice.

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by jrockies on Dec 24, 2011 2:31 PM MST up reply actions  

I suppose you're right.

The piping on the pants is kinda cool too, if you ask me.

I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.

by prettyinpurple on Dec 24, 2011 2:36 PM MST up reply actions  

From MLBTR

Looks like the Prado for Smith Deals is dead…. I expect Smith to be dealt this year, but we are going to have to wait yet another year for a solution at 2b.

My guess is Smith for Wade Davis when all is said and done.

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by wolf213 on Dec 24, 2011 6:19 PM MST reply actions  

DO. NOT. WANT.
Smith for Wade Davis when all is said and done

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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 24, 2011 7:30 PM MST up reply actions  

I actually like Wade Davis

But I think we can do better in a Smith Trade then him. Who knows though, maybe we all are overvaluing a strong side platoon outfielder with shaky defense.

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by wolf213 on Dec 24, 2011 7:34 PM MST up reply actions  

ooo a thing:
sources saying the Athletics will be permitted to move to San Jose by February.

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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 24, 2011 7:33 PM MST reply actions  

names?

San Jose A’s of San Francisco Bay.

San Jose Cansecos.

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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 24, 2011 7:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Those things are virtually impossible to wrap.

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by EmersonCR on Dec 24, 2011 9:15 PM MST up reply actions  

This is why the universe created gift bags

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by SDcat09 on Dec 24, 2011 10:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Did anyone else see this?

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20111220&content_id=26209500&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

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by Roxman4ever on Dec 24, 2011 8:22 PM MST reply actions  

Hey, I went to middle school with Jim Cederburg's son!

Thanks for the link. I’ve passed it along to my family. My mom and Jim did some work together back when I was growing up in Boulder. She’ll be happy to hear about this project of his.

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by EmersonCR on Dec 24, 2011 9:27 PM MST up reply actions  

No problem. I figured someone had already posted it but thought I would give it a shot.

58 today, 57 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.

by Roxman4ever on Dec 24, 2011 9:31 PM MST up reply actions  

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