Monday Rockpile: Rockies Ready to Deal at Winter Meetings
by Andrew Martin on Dec 5, 2011 7:01 AM MST
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The 2011 Winter Meetings have arrived, and the Rockies are also there, ready to play ball.
Typically this is the part of the offseason where every organization identifies their weaknesses and prepares to find ways to improve upon their weaknesses. The motivations and the actual commitment to solving problems will vary from team to team, but the teams are there, the agents are there, and it's time to see some interesting stuff go down.
This offseason, the Rockies entered with 2 goals: Shore up Starting Pitching, Find a Starting Infielder.
Now, we've heard about the Rockies entering the Winter Meetings with big goals in mind and coming up way, way short. Granted, every team does this, so to say the Rockies do isn't really an indictment. What feels different about this offseason is the fact that the team's already been pretty active in moving players. For starters, they cut ties with apparent team anchor Ty Wigginton, trading him to Philadelphia.
Next, they moved longtime catcher Chris Iannetta to the Los Angeles Angels in exchange for young starting pitcher Tyler Chatwood.
Finally, and in the same swoop, the Rockies signed veteran catcher Ramon Hernandez to a 2-year, $6.4M contract, ostensibly to aid top catching prospect Wilin Rosario's transition to Major League Baseball.
Recall also that 5 months ago, the Rockies dealt the best pitcher in franchise history.
We've been envisioning the Rockies as being a lost puppy, tearfully limping into the Winter Meetings, just hoping that those mean big boys won't laugh them away from the table when they come looking to trade for their players. Well, I have, if you've seen many of my recent supercritical comments.
But what if it's completely the opposite? What if the team HAS been watching their young players, the ones the team is built on, underperform over the past 2 seasons, and now they've had enough of it? There's a lot of dead weight on this team, and the Rockies are looking to build some momentum by means of some selective pruning.
Right now, it seems that everyone who isn't an established stud or a prospect on their way to becoming an established stud is up for grabs.
Wigginton was pretty much jettisoned at the first real inquiry over the offseason.
Iannetta, while a positive player, never really wowed the front office. He's been traded for a pitcher who is likely going to have to fight his way into a MLB pitching role, and likely gain favor of the organization while doing it.
Hernandez was brought in to say "Look, Rosario, we need to you to steal this guy's job. But he won't make it easy, and if you fail, we're OK falling back on this guy", as well as bringing a different batting style to the backstop.
Street's being dangled in basically a "You make way too much money to have lost your job to Admiral Veteran von ThrowsOnePitch" scenario. At least as far as I see it. It could be a salary dump, or it could actually be a productive trade.
Seth Smith picked a rough season to massively regress in the outfield. His bat is still there though, and there'll be a number of teams interested in a guy like him.
Jason Hammel should be counting his lucky stars that he's in a position the Rockies are thin at?
Possibly, could it be that the Rockies have some momentum now and are going to shake this thing up until it resembles a fighter again?
When you read lines like this from Thomas Harding, you hope it signifies that something big is about to happen:
Closer Huston Street and left fielder Seth Smith are being offered in what the Rockies hope will be a major deal, with third baseman Ian Stewart also being dangled. The Rockies are seeking starting pitching and are seeing if they can end up with a starting infielder.
"will be a major deal" is like music to my ears. I just want to see this team do something awesome. I think they're going to go get someone awesome to take the place of one of the players who isn't awesome enough to play for the Rockies.
This is something to hope for.
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Fun fact: Did you realize that Jhoulys Chacin already has 2 of the top 5 best single season ERAs in Rockies history? He also has the lowest career ERA in Rockies history. You can learn more about Jhoulys Chacin by visiting your local library.
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Awesome
So what would classify as awesome? Prado, Wright, Oswalt, Pujols lol, anyone or any mix of else?
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 5, 2011 7:20 AM MST reply actions
Top 3 pitcher
Martin Prado/Jason Bartlett and a Right Fielder
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But you don’t have to take MY word for it.
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by Franchise26 on Dec 5, 2011 7:45 AM MST reply actions 3 recs
Take a look, it's in a "book"...
it’s Reading Purple Row
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YOU CAN'T DISAPPOINT A PICTURE!!!
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 5, 2011 8:27 AM MST up reply actions
Oh this makes me so happy and sad all at the same time
#SAVEGREENDALE!
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Yahoo!'s Steve Henson:
Dbacks are after a starter. Kuroda is the target and if he’d drop demand for 2nd year player’s option, official sez cld get done this week.
This is when I hate being a fan of the Rockies. The Chafe isn’t that much preferable to Coors Field since the humidor was installed, but it still seems pitchers gravitate to AZ.
"The Chafe?
Wow. I had never heard that one before..
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They must have incredibly uncomfortable seats.
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Explains attendance.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 5, 2011 8:28 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
If we just trade away Street in a salary dump, I'll be furious
He’s a damn good pitcher, and there should be enough demand for his services to get back a mid level prospect at the very least.
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I agree with your assessment of his quality.
So why don’t the Rockies have a use for his services? I’m not really convinced that Betancourt will remain a great 9th inning guy, and I’m not sure Brothers is ready. Betancourt setting up and Street closing worked. People talk a lot about Street’s salary, but even as a “salary dump,” the FO has not showed any inclination to outright spend money. We’ll see what happens, but I’m not on the “get rid of Street” bandwagon.
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by purpleJerseygirl on Dec 5, 2011 8:43 AM MST up reply actions
Well, it makes sense if we believe that we can get equal production from someone in-house for $8mil less
it gives us more flexibility to improve the roster as a whole. That said, it can’t be a salary dump. He’s too valuable.
(Confession: Street is easily my favorite Rockies player besides Helton.)
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Betancourt's probably my favorite Rockie
And even I’m not supremely confident about him holding up for a full season as the closer. I feel like he gets a little leg weary about mid-season, when heavily used.
I suppose the upside it that if he’s overused in 2012, it means the Rox are leading a lot of games.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 5, 2011 9:14 AM MST up reply actions
two words
Rex Brothers
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I think you mean two players?????
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Absolutely concur!
Nobody can possibly look at the market for closers/set-up guys and think “Gee, let’s just leave Street out in the alley and hope someone drives by and hauls him away.” He’s a very valuable trade chip. I will not see him wasted!
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Eh...
I’m going to dissent with the Street is a valuable trade chip position. Sure, he’s good when healthy, but his cost is not pretty right now, especially given his spotty health.
But look at the market. Even after Bell, Broxton, Nathan, and Papelbon have been swooped up, you still have Madson, KRod, Capps, Cordero, Francisco, Rauch, and Lidge. There are other potential closing pitchers out there available in trade like Bailey, Thornton, Soria, Marmol, etc.
Given that Papelbon, Bell, KRod and Madson comprise what is generally considered the top of the market, with Bell receiving $9MM/year, Street at $7.5MM with a $9MM option isn’t going to be considered cheap by a long stretch. I’m not saying that he’s a negative trade value, but the Rockies are going to have to toss in a little money to get anything of real value for him. If they want the other team to take on the whole contract, they’re just not going to get much because his salary is pretty high in today’s market.
All this said, I’m still struggling to figure out how Nathan earned $14MM/2years.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
The best thing about Street is the length of contract
In a market where impact relievers are demanding 3-4 years, Street on a one year deal looks very appealing
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this...
It’s a very attractive thing for GM’s because it’s easier to back out of a mistake with a short commitment. Madson’s the last of the market that doesn’t have bigger flags in injury/performance than Street, and several if not all of that next group will be getting multi-year deals.
4 teams in on Octavio Dotel...
An equal number on Luis Ayala. If you buy into the rumours. It’s just that there’s always a market there. 30 teams go into every offseason looking to bolster their bullpen. It’s like the market for oil or cocaine. There are always buyers.
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Apples and Oranges...
Dotel is late relief, Street a closer. Sure, bullpens always need help, but paying $3MM for Dotel (just using LY salary, prob won’t change a whole lot with a new deal) and $7.5MM for Street are two separate types of negotiations.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
OK...
and 8th-inning set-up guys and closers have even more value. $7.5 mil for Street is a pretty good deal.
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A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
I don’t expect many of these players to actually get three-year deals, though. Bell got three years, Papelbon got more, but I think 2 years (and an option, in some cases) are where many of these will fall.
Is Street on a one-year deal (and an option) really going to be more advantageous than some of the two-year deals?? I’m not so sure that 1/$8MM (or 2/$16MM) is going to be more attractive than 2/$10-16MM w/ an option.
I also think there’s a disparity with sabermetric vs. traditional stat valuations that will hurt the Rockies in negotiations. Sure, Street’s way better than Cordero, for instance, but how many teams are going to look at save totals and ERA and value Cordero much more, if the money’s the same?? Between health and losing his job, Street’s been really hurt in a traditional measures of a closer.
I don’t like it, but you have to acknowledge that some teams will use those types of metrics when making a decision.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
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HA.
I also thought of the Borden brothers when people were confused about that.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 1:44 PM MST up reply actions
you mean mid season after which he had a 49/1 K/BB last year?
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I will admit it too
He’s at the top of my list. I love watching him pitch, drama and all.
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by purpleJerseygirl on Dec 5, 2011 9:28 AM MST up reply actions
He's probably my favorite
off-field Rockie – I’m still too busy getting over the 2009 postseason for him to be my favorite player or even pitcher.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 5, 2011 9:51 AM MST up reply actions
Street is in my top 5.
I;m still in favor of trading him for the right piece, though.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 11:07 AM MST up reply actions
And as Fisher notes below, that piece could be a free agent.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 11:07 AM MST up reply actions
I'm heartbrokenly in this boat.
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Dec 5, 2011 11:54 AM MST up reply actions
if he is dealt, its with the assumption his salary would be used on another player
If that happens, and its A quality player in place of a weakness, moving him is definitely the smart move. If that money isn’t used, its obviously this offseason or at the trade deadline, its not.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 8:45 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
At least you are not on the get rid of the Purple Jersey bandwagon!
There are a few here.
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by purpleJerseygirl on Dec 5, 2011 10:19 AM MST up reply actions
This
But what/who do you consider to be a mid-level prospect, because I don’t think he’s worth part for if that’s all we get.
AA or above pitcher that is likely to contribute
either as a starter or quality bullpen arm
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For that kind of haul I’d rather just wait for the mid-season trading deadline, personally. This way we have a security blanket for Betancourt.
depends on if we can get a AA arm
that profiles as a mid rotation starter. I would definitely take that deal.
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Like Alex White?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 10:03 AM MST up reply actions
So long asit's not Frankie
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Do you think Street has that much surplus value?
I don’t see it. To me, Street is lucky to be worth his contract. $8M for a relief pitcher is a lot, and mid rotation starters that aren’t too far from the majors seem like a valuable commodity.
we just got chatwood for iannetta
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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Giants might found their shortstop
and he looked very very good in Japan, though his production dropped by a significant margin last year, for what it’s worth. It’s still a better option than Gonzalez or overpaying for Rollins.
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That's a pretty debatable assertion...
Translations from the NPB to the MLB are sort of like they are from the PCL to the MLB, and you really don’t know what to expect of players until they’re actually seeing major league pitching on a regular basis. Some adjust well, others do not. It’s an interesting gamble, to be sure, though.
supposedly defense is also an issue,
that actually makes me like the move a little bit less than Gonzalez, but admittedly there’s more upside going this route.
I'm pretty positive Nakajima's hit tool is better than Gonzalez
and to be honest, I don’t think fielding is as much as an issue with the Giants as it would be for us because of the quality of their pitching, and since none of their pitchers really fit the bill as a groundball type. The type of deal that it’s gonna take to pry Rollins away from Philadelphia makes it a worse deal in the long run than Gonzalez, and signing Gonzalez to a 1 year deal is an utter band-aid that solves none of the Giants long term infield problems.
I think this is more of an issue that the Giants shortstop options aren’t good at all.
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I'm curious what makes you so positive about that?
Based on what I saw of the 2009 WBC, I’d agree, but that was a couple of years ago and he had a pretty significant drop in production in 2011 and is past the prototypical aging peak. Have you seen him lately? Or are you just going from MLE’s?
That said, I agree regarding Rollins, but the defense issue does drop him below Gonzalez. The Giants do have fewer hits to the SS than most teams, but you’re still talking about the most important defensive position on the infield. I know they have a quality defender in Crawford as a fallback though, I just think it’s got a pretty decent chance to be wasted money given they have to pay him and a posting fee.
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Matt Murton set their hits record, and Terrmel Sledge hit like 100 homers there
So….
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 8:40 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Are you doubting the talent of the Sledge Hammer?
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I remember that Spring Training in like 2007 or so...
… where Sledge hit about 5 home runs before anyone else had 2.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 11:09 AM MST up reply actions
could work out, I tend to see Japan to be about equal to PCL
I am guessing they won’t get .297/.354/.433 out of him this year but they seem pretty high on Panik
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It's just odd to see them going after a guy who primarily brings OBP skills to the table
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Just a theory of mine
but if we can find a starting infielder and pitcher though trades of Street, Stewart and Smith, I really think we sign a Cuddyer or Willingham this offseason. We absolutely have the money to do so, and the ability to put one at first base in 2013-2014.
Just floating this option around, but if the Angels sign Ramirez, I’d try to look to deal Street for Izturis. Angels are looking for a closer to pair with Walden.
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I'd love it
if we could get Izturis or Kendrick form the Angels for Street. If we realistically fill one hole of 2b or 3b, it’d be very nice. Or if we somehow traded Street and Smith for Youk and signed Willingham.
Willingham should be a higher priority after his last season with the A’s, and he’s a power RH. As for SP, I don’t think we’ll find anything, or we’re just waiting until we’re desperate enough for Street for Guthrie.
Kendrick isn't going anywhere without major prospects in return
Izturis is way more expendable for them right now
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according to Crasnick, 9 teams have called on Willingham
So, you know….don’t count on it
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 9:30 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Morosi:
#RedSox checking into trade possibilities (Bailey, Street) and free agents (Madson) in closer search, sources say.
Red Sox
also have a ton of money and love free agents. $10 say they sign Madson.
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thought i did
in reference to rox girl’s red sox rumors
Nope. Looks like you got it now, though
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 5, 2011 10:58 AM MST up reply actions
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by Junction Rox on Dec 5, 2011 12:24 PM MST up reply actions
The Red Sox might not have the money to sign Madson
At least, not according to Peter Abraham if they do the expected and re-sign Ortiz.
Street would be more affordable in that sense, but Bailey would cost even less. Acquiring Youkilis could be a relatively realistic possibility, though.
How much would we have to give for Youk? Street + _ Stew and prospect? Street+Smith would be too much.
how is that too much?
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 5, 2011 11:23 AM MST up reply actions
I like Youk; Ijust get this picture of his right handed bad back platooning with Helton's leff thanded bad back on the DL!:-\
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which is why
we could get a deal on him? plus both clubs free up salary. I’d be content with a Street + Stew. For this year at least when Helton’s down we have Giambi, and when Youk might be down, we ’d have Pacheco. maybe worth it, maybe not.
Like I said. I like Youk. I really can't get that picture out of my head.
I wonder while we are at it we can package Lansford for Magadan?
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"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
Also, if the Red Sox were not going to sign Papelbon at 4 for 50
I have a hard time seeing them pay the price Boras is asking for Madson.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 5, 2011 9:42 AM MST up reply actions
The Angels are looking for a closer
wonder if CDI + Street could have landed us something more…
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OMG IS HE GUD? I HAD HIMN in MY FANTAZY LEEG AND EH DIDNT DO MUCH LOL
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by Resolution on Dec 5, 2011 8:57 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
YEA I THINK HUNTA IS BETTER WE SHOULD TRADE FOR HIM INSTEAD OF TROUT
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DO THEY STIL HAVE SALMON ON THER TEM?
I LIK SALMON MOR THEN TROUT
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by Muzia on Dec 5, 2011 9:10 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
ROFL I GET! IT!!! LIK THE FISH LOLOL
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 9:14 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
via Morosi
#Padres getting hits on Headley, Bartlett, Hudson. I expect them to trade at least one of them by spring training.
via Ringolsby
San Diego hoping it can find some place to dump Orlando Hudson and his contract. Not expecting anything in return if it can unload money.
Gee, guess which one we’ll take a look at…
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Paying 7.5 million for 1 year of Hudson is digusting
I’d rather see what Nelson/EY2 can do at 2nd for the league minimum
Your 2012 Colorado Rockies:freshly exorcised from Ty Wigginton
disgusting and repugnant
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 9:18 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Q: What can EY2 at 2nd for the league minimum?
A: Magic.
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even with shabby defense
EY creates runs. we can only fix one hole, I say we fix 3rd and let EY try to play 2nd, whilst stealing 30 bases.
We're probably going to fix second base
Then let the squabble of infielders we have try to prove themselves until Arenado wipes them all out
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If EY2
hit for a higher babip (which he theoretically should), he’s a .270 – .280 hitter. With his on-base skills, he could be pretty valuable, I’m still a believer in him, though not a believer in him getting the playing time.
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I want Option C
…which I don’t know what that is, but I prefer it to all the names listed above
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this
Your 2012 Colorado Rockies:freshly exorcised from Ty Wigginton
Ron Santo makes the HOF via veteran's committee,
it’s too bad it didn’t happen during his lifetime…
Santo ranks 79th among baseball’s all time hitters according to Baseball-Reference’s ELO rater, Larry Walker, who might have to wait for the veteran’s committee himself, ranks 65th.
I love and hate this time of year
It’s hard to not be stuck to twitter watching the rumors come out.
Yep. I'm even dreaming about people i follow and have never met
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 9:15 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
I dreamt last night
that the Rockies signed Aramis Ramirez, it was strange
2011 - not even light can escape
I woke up this morning thinking we had signed some minor leaguers I'm 99% sure are figments of my imagination.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 11:11 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Christmas gift idea for nerdy rockies fan
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 9:34 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Just an observation
But the Marlins had a terrible season in which their manager to start the year, and this offseason they’re making all sorts of moves and have even acquired Jose Reyes. The Rockies, meanwhile, had a bad season and the organization is content with either the status quo or picking up Carl Pavano who led the majors in hits last year.
:<
The manager complaint is legit, but you're comparing apples to raisins on everything else.
Until the Rockies massively increase ticket prices and/or get their next TV contract, the money to go out and get the very top FA’s in addition to Tulo/Cargo probably isn’t going to be there.
Just to clarify a bit too what the differences between the two teams' situations is,
compare the Marlins’ Miami stadium lease, which requires the team to pay $2.3 million/season to the city/county without additional tax on the team’s revenue to the Rockies agreement with the Denver metro area (including six surrounding counties) to pay $32 million/season. I’m pretty sure the Rockies don’t have the same tax benefits as the Marlins, either. What we’re seeing with the Marlins spending spree is what that extra $30 million a year gives a team.
btw, $30 million is a very low conservative estimate.
I’m actually the difference between the two teams’ revenues at this point is closer to the $50 million range. That stadium deal the Marlins got is really shady, a taxpayer handout to a billionaire, and it’s no wonder the SEC is investigating.
This investigation has the potential to explode
The deal looks shadier and shadier with every big contract they sign.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 5, 2011 10:13 AM MST up reply actions
We need a new stadium!
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3rd oldest in the NL, right?
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Next you'll be crying for a retractable roof !
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WE NEED A RETRACTABLE ROOF!!!
It’s 9 degrees outside!
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Rain at Coors is the best.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 11:12 AM MST up reply actions
Isn't that amazing?
The times in which we live.
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The Rockies stadium lease does expire in 2016
There’s obviously a near zero percentage chance that they move out of Coors/get a new stadium, but the lease terms could become a lot more favorable to the Rockies at that point since a new construction won’t have to be paid for.
Just in time for us to extend the PuRPs who bloom in this wave to long term deals.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 5, 2011 10:15 AM MST up reply actions
it's a great ballpark
and in great shape – done a really good job of taking care of it.
Insert wiener joke here.
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Well, it's only 16 years old...
and all brick and steel. But, so much nicer than Invesco that it’s not even close. I also like it a lot more than PETCO because the layout is less confusing (a few concourses just dead-end) and the climb up the stairs is less severe. I have to admit, I L park though – if only for the views. OVE AT&T
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proofread fail!
I love At&T park – if only for the views
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coors
consistently places in the top 10 beautiful ballparks, and it’s placement reinvigorated LoDo. The bars around the ballpark generate huge revenue, and apartments have sprouted up in the Ballpark district. Continuous good attendance despite awful years means it won’t move, unless the Rockies continue to be as bad as last year.
Staring out the window, waiting for spring.
So what you're saying, if i understand you correctly...
Is you don’t want to see a nice concrete edifice surrounded by a sea of parking lots, maybe out by the Tech Center?
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no no no
concrete and glass with a double retractable dome on top of office buildings, by the tech center.
Staring out the window, waiting for spring.
And a mall.
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Most of those 1970s hybrid stadiums
were dumps after 16 years. It’s nice that they are keeping them well-maintained.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 5, 2011 11:02 AM MST up reply actions
They were built pretty cheaply.
with nary a nod to style. I think Olympic Stadium in Montreal had a retractable roof that broke and they just left it shut. Qualcomm is still nice (kind of.)
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The final Inside The Rockies farm report has a feature on Josh Rutledge
Here’s a few key quotes:
get too big on some of my swings and pull the ball when I should have been taking everything up the middle," Rutledge said. "I started swinging the bat better and just kind of got in a groove the second half."
Both Jerry Weinstein, who managed Modesto the past five years but will be the Rockies catching coach next season, and player development director Jeff Bridich see Rutledge capable of hitting 12-15 homers a year in the big leagues.
Rutledge did some instructional league [at second base] and continues to do so in his offseason program.
Rutledge’s offseason routine figures to happily vary at some point in December when he joins third base prospect Nolan Arenado, who played with Rutledge at Modesto, to work out with Tulowitzki in Las Vegas. It’s been a few weeks since the Rockies shortstop Rutledge to do so via a text.
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That last sentence was weird
So is Tulo magic? Hard to imagine him turning everyone who works out with him into a stud
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 10:02 AM MST up reply actions
Regarding which Rockies player is magic.
Q: What can EY2 at 2nd for the league minimum?
A: Magic.
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I think it’s less of a “Come with me, I know all the secrets” thing and more of a “I’m the leader of this franchise and I want to work with you guys and help make you better in any way I can” thing. Which I think it’s pretty cool, actually.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
Tulowitzki’s text arrived when Rutledge was asleep. So just to be sure the text was not a prank and actually from Tulowitzki, Rutledge got in touch with Arenado. "I called Nolan and asked if he was working out again (with Tulowitzki)," Rutledge said. "He said, ‘Yeah, I gave him your number. He wants us to come work out with him this winter.’
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Hey its troy, come to vegas and jacked and tan w/me, dex, nolan, andbiebergiambi
LOLWUT
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Oh it's definitely awesome
and a pretty big deal for him to welcome A-ball prospects. I’m just curious how much effect it truly has
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 10:05 AM MST up reply actions
No telling, I suppose, since most of the impact is probably something of a confidence boost – if the face of the franchise wants me, Joe Prospect, to work out with him, that’s a clear sign that he thinks I can help the big club and wants to motivate me to get there and be great once I do. So it’s probably more of a carrot than anything else.
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With Giambi there it sounds like they need some one to hit fungos for the DP workout.
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Well
at this point Dex is the odd man out since he’s in the OF most of the time
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its effectiveness has to do with how much and how long they’ll all be working out as well as with Arenado and Rutledge’s willingness to learn and Giambi/ Tulo’s mentoring abilities.
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I guess that last sentence is missing the verb "invited"
Just one word, but it was confusing without
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 10:06 AM MST up reply actions
one last cool tidbit from the Farm Report
The Rockies have hired former third baseman Darin Holcomb to scout in the Pacific Northwest. Holcomb, who turns 26 on Dec. 7, was forced to retire during the 2011 season due to a debilitating back condition that caused him to miss the entire 2010 season.
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Same here.
Schmidt said the Rockies will work with Holcomb to allow him to finish the two semesters he needs for his degree in sports management and promotions from Gonzaga.
As frustrating as our FO can be at times, I really do think they care about their personnel.
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Classy.
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Wow.
This is really, really cool.
Just a small town kid who thinks Coors Field on a sunny summer Saturday night is the best place to be on this or any other plane of existence. When a late-inning Todd Helton go-ahead homerun is added to this scenario, my brain melts.
Here's what I would like to see the Rockies get accomplished
1) Trade Street for a piece that the Braves are interested in.
2) At this point you should be able to send Smith + the player you got for Street and possibly (one small to mid range prospect as well) to Atlanta in exchange for Prado.
3) Use the money you have saved through – A) Street ($7.5 million) + Smith (a couple million in arb) being off the books, B) the Iannetta trade/Hernandez signing ($1 million saved net), C) The Wigginton dump on Philly ($2 million) – and sign Josh Willingham
This would allow us to significantly improve the lineup without giving up any big name prospects or add outrageously large sums of money to the payroll that could bog us down later. The top six would look something like this…..
1) Dex
2) Prado
3) Cargo
4) Tulo
5) Helton
6) Willingham
(LRLRLR for Jim Tracy)
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 5, 2011 10:04 AM MST reply actions
Just a minor point
acquiring Prado would sap the money saved by moving Smith and the 1 mill difference between CDI and Ramon.
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This is true
But the net gain Smith + Street + Iannetta/Hernandez swap + Wiggy (Thank God) comes out to around $13 million. Even if Prado gets a 65% raise or so in arb (a number I don’t even think he deserves after last season) we are only talking about $5 million. So the net gain in all of this would be around $8million more than they had to spend a few weeks ago.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 5, 2011 10:21 AM MST up reply actions
Don't forget Prado's salary coming back.
Arbitration after making $3.1M last year. But yeah, I’d be down for this. I like Willingham, even on a three-year deal and at a salary that prevents a mid-level pitching acquisition. Personally, with all the potential starting pitiching options we’ve stockpilled, even though largely/entirely unproven, I’m willing to roll the dice that at least 5 of them – in some combination – remain viable over the coruse of the season. Particulary, if the alternative is getting someone like Pavano.
Lots of moving parts in this, though.
Just a small town kid who thinks Coors Field on a sunny summer Saturday night is the best place to be on this or any other plane of existence. When a late-inning Todd Helton go-ahead homerun is added to this scenario, my brain melts.
I'm very high on the idea of Willingham's bat in our lineup
I believe he’s VERY underrated. (Not to mention a set of deal like this would mop up a decent chunk of the garbage AB’s we had last season)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 5, 2011 10:24 AM MST up reply actions
contacted by 9 teams
I don’t believe he’s underrated any longer…
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HAHA
touche
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 5, 2011 10:30 AM MST up reply actions
I guess I meant underrated in the sense that he's not talked about very often at all as a great hitter
I just went to fangraphs and ordered all hitters with at least 2500 PA’s from 2006 to 2011 by wRC+ and here are the players who came in directly BELOW Willingham….
Brian McCann, Victor Martinez, Vlad Guerro, Dustin Pedroia, Andre Ethier, Adam Dunn, Grady Sizemore, Curtis Granderson, Derrek Lee, Robinson Cano, Bobby Abreu, Jason Bay, Jose Reyes, Hunter Pence, Ian Kinsler, Troy Tulowitzki, Ryan Zimmerman, Derek Jeter, & Todd Helton.
I know he’ll be 33 next season and he may start to drop off some but adding a bat anywhere near that good would do wonders for this lineup.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 5, 2011 10:36 AM MST up reply actions
The only issue I have with Willingham is what to expect that third year.
It’s a risk that’s possibly worth taking. I like Cuddyer a little more because I see him as slightly less of a risk for a similar duration.
I like Cuddyer a touch more, too.
But only a touch. Would be thrilled with either, again, even at 3 years. Like you said, risk worth taking.
Just a small town kid who thinks Coors Field on a sunny summer Saturday night is the best place to be on this or any other plane of existence. When a late-inning Todd Helton go-ahead homerun is added to this scenario, my brain melts.
I fall in the camp that thinks it's worth the risk
We will probably end up overpaying that third year but if we get production on the front end and have a load of cost controlled talent in Denver for the 2014 season, I think it will be well worth it.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 5, 2011 10:38 AM MST up reply actions
If for no other reason than it would just be nice for us to outbid somebody...
Just once this decade.
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by Since1993 on Dec 5, 2011 10:40 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey now
we got Ty Wigginton
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Got me there.
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Somebody of value.?
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Miguel Olivo?
Jason Marquis?
Alan Embree?
Luis Vizcaino?
Kip Wells?
This really does become a pretty depressing list.
What's the point of using facts?
And examples and shit?
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ah, jason marquis
/nostalgia
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Indeed.
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by Since1993 on Dec 5, 2011 10:54 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
If we can give 40 year old Giambi a deal year after year
we can probably live through one year of Willingham at 35ish…
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Dec 5, 2011 12:41 PM MST up reply actions
Worst case scenario
and was meant to support a JW signing…
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Dec 5, 2011 12:55 PM MST up reply actions
I thought you didn't want Willingham
77 today and 76 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
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i like it
but O’Dowd will be too interested in an old starting pitcher. unless we sign millwood, in which case he’s plenty old enough.
Staring out the window, waiting for spring.
Nick Cafardo
A few teams asking about Sox utilityman Jed Lowrie.
I’m guessing that the Rockies may be one of them.
A FEW?
Welp…count us out.
(Please DOD…kill this meme this year)
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 10:29 AM MST up reply actions
I'm not sure it should be one in the first place, save for FA pitchers
A few teams were reportedly in on Hernandez.
true, but it was pretty quiet all around
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 11:18 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
DOD is interested in
Every other team in the MLB becomes interested in Player A.
DOD feeling insecure about himself, shy’s away from Player A.
Moves on to Player B.
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DOD ends up crying in the bathroom at the prom because hey can’t get up the nerve to ask any player he likes to dance.
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Get well soon Juan.
Dude, I thought we agreed that we wouldn’t revisit my high school/college years on this blog. Those were off limits.
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Um,
Those were my high school/college years.
Are we the same person????
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ok russ
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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They weren't Russ's high school/college years,
If he’s me, then he has to be like my Tyler Durden, so I’m guessing that he was quite the ladies’ man in high school. Or man’s man, not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Nothing at all.
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It's anyway, not anyways.
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Brett Lawrie?
No? Okay. I could be down for Jed. Got a weird feeling he could work out for us. Don’t know why, just got a weird feeling about it.
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 5, 2011 10:35 AM MST up reply actions
hahaha.
I wish we could get Lawrie, dude’s awesome.
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 5, 2011 11:29 AM MST up reply actions
Rosenthal:
Rival exec: #Phillies actively trying to move Polanco. Would clear 3B for A. Ramirez. #MLB
I want to go to there.
Uh, yes. Absolutely.
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I'm in.
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Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
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It's funny
how within an hour the purple row community can rip any player into shreds and deem him not a good fit with our team
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 5, 2011 12:10 PM MST up reply actions
kinda strikes out at a high rite and has mWTA of a +19 completely wouldn’t fit in coors field
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 5, 2011 12:17 PM MST up reply actions
Me too
The guy absolutely never strikes out. Rox could use that, for sure.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 5, 2011 11:00 AM MST up reply actions
Ha!
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 5, 2011 11:04 AM MST up reply actions
This was a laugh at the Phillies trading Polanco in order to sign Ramirez to some god-awful contract.
That’s funny.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 5, 2011 11:07 AM MST up reply actions
If it were anybody else, even the Yankees, I would think that it wasn’t possible. But, our boy Ruben…
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 5, 2011 11:09 AM MST up reply actions
If it were anybody else, even the Yankees, I would think that it wasn’t possible. But, our boyRubenCharlie77…
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Yeah, I'm very much in favor of this.
What would Philly want, though? They probably wouldn’t ask too high of a price if they want to move him, but what would they need? Questionable middle infield depth?
…can’t Polanco also play second?
Yes, yes he can.
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how about we give them the 2 mil we saved on Wiggy and Chris Nelson/EY2
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He's like an
uglier Martin Prado!
Both will make similar amounts of money, both play solid defense at 2b and 3b, both are high contact right-handed hitters, both have injury issues.
Getting Polanco would be much cheaper though and we could probably keep Smith (and get a platoon partner instead).
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I don’t there’s much chance that we’ll stick with Smith.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 5, 2011 11:08 AM MST up reply actions
It would be a decent acquisition. Polanco is more expensive (and probably be not-as-good as Prado) but it wouldn’t cost nearly as much to acquire. Plus his contact approach would play well at Coors.
100% in on this deal.
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Polanco is 6 mil this season and 5 mil next I think. Prado will definitely equal Polanco in 2013. Maybe Philly could eat a mill. But either way, I’d be down for this.
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Except
that Polanco is in his mid thirties and Prado in his mid twenties. Both are coming off down years, but between the two, i think Prado is much more likely to be good in 2012.
Just a small town kid who thinks Coors Field on a sunny summer Saturday night is the best place to be on this or any other plane of existence. When a late-inning Todd Helton go-ahead homerun is added to this scenario, my brain melts.
I think Prado will be better too, but I don’t have to try to hard to see them having similar years and Polanco would cost a lot less to acquire.
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Of course Prado isn't worth trading Arenado for.
I don’t even think the Braves really believe that.
But Prado – mid-20’s or late-20’s still in his prime years – offers a clear upgrade in my mind. Polanco, while obviously less expensive in trade assests, does not. He’s solidly in the Plan B category to me. If we end up going to Plan B type options, than Polanco’s fine. But I’m not going to cheerlead for that.
Just a small town kid who thinks Coors Field on a sunny summer Saturday night is the best place to be on this or any other plane of existence. When a late-inning Todd Helton go-ahead homerun is added to this scenario, my brain melts.
You can't go by what you think a price should be, though...
and say the Rockies should do that instead. Read everything that Frank Wren is saying about Prado, if they trade him at all, it’s not going to be for nearly as cheap as you envision. I’d argue that you’re actually overvaluing him too, given his significant drop off last season. In his “prime seasons” or not, there’s a significant chance that he’s actually past his prime. Same is true for Polanco at his age, obviously, but I honestly think there might be less risk there for the acquisition costs involved.
and considering we wanted Prado as a 2 year stopgap at most
Polanco fills that bill quite nicely. Not as productive, but potentially a better fit — especially considering our hesitation to deal prospects
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If we play Prado at 2nd...
which I thought was the deal, he’d be more than a stopgap as we don’t really have a bona fide 2b in the system yet – except maybe Rutledge.
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Rutledge is Tulo's personally chosen 2B heir
for whatever that’s worth..
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I don't have a problem with that.
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And wouldn't we play Polanco at 3rd?
He would be a placeholder for Arenado.
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Trade reliever for Polanco
Trade reliever for Orlando Hudson, and SD eats much of the contract.
Play Polanco at 3B, Hudson at 2B.
Call up Arenado in June, shift Polanco to 2B, send Hudson to whoever will take him, all on the Padres’ dime.
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No Hudson!
There’s a reason he’s gone through so many teams.
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I'm not trying to name the Braves' price or say that the Rockies should acquire Prado at any cost.
Only stating that i’t my guess that even the Braves knew that asking for Arenado was rediculous, and that asking for Arenado was a step in the negotiation process rather than an offer they expected to be accepted or that they would, in the end, demand.
Of course, I don’t have any personal insight in into the Braves FO position on this. If that’s the value they really do place on Prado, if they’re really that delusional, then I agree that there’s no point in keeping Prado in the discussion. At that price, he’s not a viable get. We might as well be talking about trading for Robinson Cano.
If/when that becomes clear (or has already), that the Braves aren’t actualy serious about moving Prado, then fine: go to a Plan B like Polanco. I can see the appeal of that course since, if for no other reason, there would persumably be less of a cost involved. And, dpending on what that cost actually is (none of us can be sure at this point), maybe that’d be better.
I’m just saying that the idea of Prado at 2B appeals to me, and the idea of Polanco at 2B makes me say “meh.”
Just a small town kid who thinks Coors Field on a sunny summer Saturday night is the best place to be on this or any other plane of existence. When a late-inning Todd Helton go-ahead homerun is added to this scenario, my brain melts.
Braves asked Royals for Cain + Myers
Braves asked Rockies for Arenado + Smith
They are asking for the moon. It’s looking unlikely.
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Yeah, but doesn't change the fact that they are really overvaluing their own players
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Jurrjens value is higher than Prado
They’re trying to get a team to evaluate him off of his ERA and not his peripherals. I could certainly see the reason in trying to fool Dayton Moore, who has evaluated players based on traditional stats before.
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It does seem
That the Braves are asking for Smith + Arenado, while the Rockies are offering Smith only. These are the two extremes of Prado’s value. His true value is somewhere around Smith + a B prospect.
If A deal is to be done, I think it will have to be trading Street for that B prospect that Atlanta wants.
Or, trade Street for Lowrie
Blackmon for Polanco
And Stewart and Smith for an A’s starter.
I think we’d both agree that this would be preferable to trading away both Smith and Street and getting only Prado back.
Without knowing what the Phillies want, though, it’s really hard to say what the best alternative is.
This is solid.
Very solid. Can we trade Wheeler instead of Blackmon though?
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 5, 2011 12:13 PM MST up reply actions
I'd prefer we trade Wheeler but I bet the Phillies prefer blackmon.
I’m not opposed horribly to either
I really think the Braves are trying to put off the feel that they don't need to trade Prado
When in reality he just doesn’t fit the team anymore. Sure they could hold onto him and get 2-3 WAR out of him, but that’s just not help their long term plans. I very, very much believe Prado gets moved, but we have to keep in mind that the Braves probably don’t envision the Rockies as ideal trade partners, while Prado is practically a perfect fit for us. They’re completely playing off that with the Rockies right now, and that’s where all of their negotiating power is coming from. We’ve given the Braves too much leverage in these negotiations in that us as fans are so willing to deal Smith + Wheeler for Prado.
I really just want the Rockies to just pursue Izturis at this point, just so that we can eliminate any advantage the Braves have in negotiations right now. If we get Izturis for a price that works for us, well then screw the Braves, there goes the team that will probably bid the most for Prado.
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Braves have been pulling everyone's chain.
What was the point of asking for Arenado except to see if we were that dumb and to basically say we have to give a whole lot to get one guy who has some potential and was only proven for one season. I like Prado, but I don’t like him enough to deal with the Braves, who have been preying on Colorado’s talent for years, since taking Galarraga and Castilla and us getting Neagle and Hampton. Never trust the braves, get Izturis, and start EY just to make their defense stumble.
Staring out the window, waiting for spring.
As long as Chipper plays for the Braves, Prado is a fit for the Braves. Not a perfect fit, but a fit nonetheless.
Once Chipper no longer plays for the Braves, Prado is a perfect fit for the Braves.
Remember, Prado is a better 3B than he is a 2B. I cannot stress this enough, and will do so for the entirety of Prado’s career unless it somehow becomes untrue.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
then why shop him at all?
There would be no question about trading “a perfect fit” for a team, the dialog wouldn’t even come up in a front office.
His deal will be up by the time Chipper retires, unless Chipper decides to retire after this season. Chipper’s 2013 option is throwing a bit of a wrench into it, and 2013 is not yet officially Chipper’s last year.
Also, Wren’s already said that one player’s name has come into many trade rumors in which Wren has not actively shopped the player but merely listened to other team’s offers. So far, only Jurrjens and Prado have have been linked to trade rumors. Do the math.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Link...
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/12/east-links-guthrie-jays-marlins-braves-prado.html
O’Brien botched the quote by limiting it to a 140-character tweet (that is no longer linked in the article), but Wren is essentially saying that reports have him “actively shopping” players he hasn’t even discussed with other teams, just listened on.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
I think you're taking Wren's words to an extreme he doesn't imply
""I think that [Prado and Jurrjens trade possibility] was wrongly characterized from the very beginning," Wren said. "What we said and what we stand by is that we’re looking to get better, and however we can get better we will. We’re open minded. We’ll listen if somebody calls."
The word I’ve been looking for from him that’s GM code for what you’re meaning is “overwhelm” as in the Padres would have to be “overwhelmed to trade Chase Headley.”
That said, asking for Arenado is pretty much the same thing. If that is Wren’s sticking price, than you’ll have my apology for misreading the situation, but if he comes off of it, than it will be pretty clear that Prado’s not quite the perfect fit for the Braves that you make him out to be.
I don’t think I’m taking it to the extreme at all.
Wren is pretty forthright, always has been. He’s said he’ll listen to offers, and he’s listening. He’s not shopping someone (Prado, in this case, was the clear inference) in the DOB quote, despite the fact that there are active rumors surfacing that he is.
The overwhelmed theme is certainly in play in this instance. I don’t know where his sticking point is, probably somewhere below Arenado, but not too far off of it.
Also, I said quite clearly that Prado is not a perfect fit at this time. I didn’t make him out to be one. I said that if he’s still around after Chipper retires, he would be a perfect fit. I understand the difference isn’t great, but your above statement regarding my comments is incorrect.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
okay, I get your clarification
But I think we’re in disagreement with where Wren’s at with Prado. I think the statements about, or possibly inferring that he’s “not shopping” Prado are true to some extent, but also clearly not the whole picture. Certainly other MLB teams have greater interest in other younger Braves that are cost controlled, but it’s not like we’re seeing Freddie Freeman, Julio Teheran or Jason Heyward rumors cropping up anywhere. No Brian McCann rumors, either.
I think it’s a situation where the team could go into the season with the player, and therefore doesn’t want to alienate him with a lot of offseason trade unrest so what shopping is being done is being done passively. It’s not quite like the situation with the Rockies Street or Stewart, or perhaps even Smith, where the activity implies almost certain movement, but it’s not the same as a Headley either, where there really is only a minute chance of the player getting traded.
I agree that we’re in disagreement. I would put Prado much closer to Headley on the scale of “likely to be traded” than I would with any of the players you mentioned. Not at the “minute” chance level, but at least on the “very unlikely” level. The Prado situation is nowhere near the Smith, Street, or Stewart situations, imo.
We’re not seeing those other rumors because they’re not worth reporting. It would be like hearing a CarGo or Tulo rumor at this point, although they’re obviously locked up long-term whereas McCann isn’t. Heyward/Freeman still have enough team control that rumors aren’t really worth mentioning, either. They aren’t going anywhere.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
"They aren't going anywhere."
Precisely my point. Prado very well could be going somewhere, and given the interest and amount of rumor activity around him, I’d put the odds somewhere around 50/50.
Not too far off of my view. I’d say it’s about 1/3.
May have just gone up with news that Hudson may not make it back by OD. If that’s the case, Jurrjens may not be moved until later, which in turn would increase Prado’s chances of moving.
It’s a complicated case, Maude. Lotta ins. Lotta outs. And a lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Duder’s head…
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
careful, there's a beverage, man...
I agree with you here.
As a Rockies fans, I actually didn’t like how much leverage the Braves had with Prado as he’s the top of the market (either FA or trade) for that 2B/3B type of player, which is why I’ve been actively seeking alternatives that the Rockies could use to reduce that. Lowrie and Bartlett weren’t up to that level but the best of the rest. Polanco isn’t quite either, but he’s a lot closer. It does throw an interesting wrench in the works.
Read that it doesn't help their long term plans
Say Chipper retires, Prado at 3rd, Pastornicky at SS, Uggla at 2nd, Freeman at 1st. Cool.
Most writers say Braves want a CF because they either don’t believe Bourn is long term option, nor that he’ll be resigned for a price that fits the Braves. Lets say this is true as well.
The Braves go into 2013 with Heyward as their only good outfielder. It’s questionable how much money they’ll have to spend because that rotation is going to be expensive in a few years. They have infield prospects. They don’t have one outfielder in their farm system that profiles as a starter.
The Rockies don’t want to trade Smith + Wheeler for Prado, but obviously that’s what it’s going to take, because I don’t think the Braves blink if they get offered that. I don’t think the Braves believe for a second they’ll get Smith+ Arenado, but they’re trying to position themselves where the Rockies offer at least Smith + Wheeler and maybe try to drive the price of other teams up past that.
I think once the Rockies get an outfielder that makes a second Rockies outfielder expendable in a way that Smith is, this deal will get done. The only disagreement will be that the Rockies feel that they should get something else in value for Smith + Wheeler other than Prado and the Braves will push for another prospect’s inclusion, probably Rutledge. If the Rockies use Polanco and Izturis correctly, they can probably put themselves in the position of negotiating power and get this deal done.
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Disagreed on the price of the rotation (I think it gets “expensive” in 2017-18, or thereabouts), but not much else.
Obviously, this assumes that Hanson and Jurrjens are shipped out, and I think it’s likely on both. Both are Boras clients, and neither seem intent on giving a discount. The first of the Hanson/Jurrjens/Beachy/Minor/Teheran/Delgado/Vizcaino block to show sustained success and offer a discount will be signed long-term, I have no doubt. But with such a glut of pitching talent, the Braves aren’t in any hurry to marry Jurrjens or Hanson.
When Jurrjens and/or Hanson go, they’re going to be traded for more OF help, limiting the need to trade Prado for those pieces.
After that, you’re pretty much correct. Salcedo or Terdoslavich could move to the OF (the second more likely), but the OF is an area where they are currently really lacking. Mycal Jones could become an everyday starter, but projects more as a 4th OF.
This is what makes moving Prado an okay compromise in the long-term. They have to get long-term OF help to make the deal, though. I’ve always been a Smith + Wheeler proponent, and think that’s most likely. It likely fulfills the goal of getting better long-term.
In short, other than disagreeing about the cost of the rotation (and I do believe that Hanson and Jurrjens will be shipped eventually, and Hudson retired), we’re pretty close to the same belief.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Glad we're on the same page here
About Jurrjens, I think he’s eventually traded in a deal that includes Alonso, in which Alonso winds up being flipped to another team. I don’t think you should wait to trade him, it should be a disappointment if he isn’t gone by the offseason. He just isn’t going to be able to sustain the ERA he has.
Why trade Hanson as well?
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Money...
Hanson has made it a point of not signing his bargain sheet, or whatever they’re called. The ML contracts that are essentially league-minimum for their service time.
Boras client, wants to get paid, showing some attitude on that front…it all adds up to a difficult negotiation for an organization that has a wealth of options at his position. I expect the same thing to happen with his contract this year, but we’ll see.
In the end, Boras will try to buy out his arbitration years, something the Braves just haven’t done without getting FA years in return. Boras typically does not give up FA years, and there’s more animosity between the sides as he reaches FA. I think he’ll get traded before they reach that point, probably after 2013, his first arbitration year.
The other wrench in that equation is that Heyward hits FA the same time as Hanson…so if they both pan out and stay with the team, there’s going to be a huge jump in salary in 2016, and it’s going to be hard to prepare for, even if that’s when Uggla comes off the books.
The Braves will probably find it easier to sign Heyward and move on with their younger pitching talent.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Ah, I thought you had meant that Hanson would be deal this offseason or next
But that’s a far way off. Oh, and please convince your Braves brethren that Smith+Wheeler is worth it. They still believe they DESERVE Arenado, which is incredibly absurd when Arenado figures to be as good or better than Prado after a year or two.
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I wouldn’t go that far on Arenado. I think it’s really hard to project a guy to be an AS-worthy talent when he’s yet to play AA.
Not saying he can’t be, but he may not even make the Rockies roster in a year or two if he has a setback of any sort (injury or poor season). I think far too many people consider him a sure thing, when he’s not hit AA pitching yet. It may be a couple years before he makes the bigs, and it may take him a year or two to approach his potential at that level.
The AFL body of work is certainly promising, but it is what it is – a hitter’s league.
I can see both sides of the coin, and Arenado being a star is the more likely one in my book, but there’s still something to be said for the other side. Giving up a star player is difficult when the return isn’t someone considered to be a top guy.
That’s exactly how most Braves fans view Prado, even with 2011. I don’t think they’re wrong doing so, given the context of last season’s troubles.
In the end, every team and every fan views their players as the more valuable pieces.
Obviously, the Braves fans are the same way. If you told me that one of the Four Horsemen of the Pitchpocalypse would be a bust, I’d doubt it at this point. But maybe it happens, even though all four of those guys are much farther along than Arenado.
If Arenado gets traded for Prado and pulls a Pedro Alvarez (who the jury is still out on this point) while Prado puts up 7 WAR in 2012-2013 and signs an extension, who’s liking that trade more??
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
I agree with the premise of this comment, but not the content
Just like Stewart, the main question with Alvarez was if he was going to make enough contact or not, and nobody questioned the power. Arenado is completely different style of hitter than Alvarez, one who avoids strikeouts and still is able to hit for power. He has a similar ceiling to Alvarez (consistent all star 3rd baseman) in a league where good third basemen are rare now. Arenado’s floor is high enough that 6 years of him provides more WAR than Prado’s ultimate upside (8 WAR over 2 years). This isn’t even considering Smith as well, OR Arenado’s upside.
Keeping the idea of Prado being potentially worth 8 WAR over the next two years, Smith is very likely to continue his production, averaging 2 WAR each year for 3 years. There’s 3/4 of Prado right there. You add in Wheeler, who is obviously a high reward, high risk player as he can play center while providing power out of the position, but could flame out because of strikeouts. You don’t know, he’s still developing, but he’s the definition of a B prospect, who’s a borderline top 100 prospect and easily a top 150 prospect. If he just becomes a starter for you guys, you win this trade WAR-wise because it fills a huge positional need for you guys. I say this to all Braves fans: trading Seth Smith and Tim Wheeler for Martin Prado mostly likely helps you guys out more than us, even if Prado goes back to 2009-2010 levels, because you’re gaining one starter who’s worth more as a left fielder than Prado would be, and potentially gaining a center field starter who are under your control longer than Prado will be for us.
This isn’t even mentioning the fact that the Rockies absolutely need Arenado at third base because there just isn’t anyone else to consider there who could put up more than 1 WAR. Chris Nelson is the only person and he’s a big question mark. We’re looking at Prado for a second base solution, not at third base.
I understand why Braves fans are so unhappy that Prado has a good chance of being dealt, but if he does, the deal is very, very likely to be in your favor. Yeah, Tim Wheeler is a risk, but there’s just no way in utter hell you guys are getting the easiest solution we have ever had at third base since Atkins drove in 120. We’re won’t even deal him for Wright.
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I don't disagree with much of that...
And I don’t see him going anywhere, either. He won’t.
That said, rumors are that nearly half the league has contacted the Braves regarding Prado, and it’s not even being reported by an Atlanta guy. It’s a national reporter.
Bidding could get nuts, or maybe all are trying to lowball. Who knows at this point…should be an interesting week.
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It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Honestly, this is a reason why Polanco's important.
And I really don’t know how available he is as the Phillies might be putting him out there for gamesmanship, but the Braves Prado leverage went down considerably once Philadelphia started shopping him. Now the Braves might have to act on the best available offer instead of holding out for their pie in the sky demands. But the Rockies have to negotiate with both.
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...and still way more tolerable than Nelson/EY2/Herrera
plus he doesn’t block Arenado.
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not true, there's a lot of value in that high contact rate with a decent LD %
His offensive value will fluctuate with his BABIP, but there’s a high floor as well as considerable ceiling with him.
I loves me some high contact rate and high LD%.
Coors Field gold.
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Was that originally a question for me?
Cause my answer is: because my face hurts. And it would probably kill you.
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Apropos of nothing, and this is not a slight on Prado,
but I remember this time last offseason when we were ascribing those same qualities to one Jose Lopez.
Good times.
I know you meant Polanco there,
and I’ve got to be honest, I thought the same thing while posting that, but they really are different players. You can’t really compare them.
Jose Lopez never got on base. Even for the brief moment when he was good.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 5, 2011 11:25 AM MST up reply actions
This is my view, also.
Yeah, the defense is good, of course. But the dude will be 36 next year and OPS+ed 85 in 2011. That only looks good compared to our current in-house options at 2B, which isn’t saying much. As a fall-back, Polanco’s fine, but I don’t understand why I should be excited about acquiring him.
Just a small town kid who thinks Coors Field on a sunny summer Saturday night is the best place to be on this or any other plane of existence. When a late-inning Todd Helton go-ahead homerun is added to this scenario, my brain melts.
He gets on base.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 5, 2011 11:16 AM MST up reply actions
2011 Johnny Herrera: .313 OBP
2011 Chris Nelson: .280 OBP
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Not saying he isn't an improvment
Because, you know, it’s impossible not to improve from nothing. Just saying he isn’t exactly a game changer. And isn’t going to really improve the team all that much.
we got a 65 wRC+ and 0.4 fWAR from 2B last season
Polanco’s bad 2011 was good for 88 wRC+ and 2.8 WAR
That’s a great improvement.
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especially for the price
It’s like the difference between 2010 and 2011 Stewart
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 11:44 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
But
All 2.8 of that was was tied to defense. I guess I’m not quite picking my words well here. He is a better player than guys like Herrera and Nelson, and I won’t hate a trade if we got him. But, I see this as yet another one of the filler moves where we get a guy who has one or two good points, but as a whole, is pretty mundane. A move that neither hurts us or helps us.
88 wRC+
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does anyone else think that the + in wRC+ hurts guys
who’s offensive value is not HR related who play in bandboxes? a guy like Polanco is likely to hit better in a big OF stadium with deep power alleys than he is in a stadium with a short porch.
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I think this.
It’s certainly something that’s dogged Juan Pierre’s career value in a lot of people’s eyes, for sure.
It’s like everyone hates Juan Pierre because he keeps getting starting OF jobs despite not having a good OF arm and not hitting for power.
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This is really too harsh,
Polanco absolutely helps, there can hardly be a question about that. I could see you questioning the extent of that help, but it’s a clear step forward, no fuzziness about it.
That's nice.
But 2B/3B with decent gloves and .335 OBPs aren’t falling off trees. His issue is is SLG is way down, but we don’t need that from him. We need a #2 guy who can get Fowler over and get us to CarGo and Tulo. Polanco would fill that role nicely, and be an improvement over what we had.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 5, 2011 11:49 AM MST up reply actions
The point being that
he has the tools that we needs, even if he isn’t a five-tool guy. But there aren’t a lot of five-tool guys around.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 5, 2011 11:50 AM MST up reply actions
and he doesn't require a long term commitment, he has an option for 2012
and won’t require a significant piece going back to Philly.
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OBP from 2B in 2011: .304
OBP from 3B in 2011: .281
Between 30 and 50 points of improvement of OBP is pretty significant.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 5, 2011 11:40 AM MST up reply actions
Basically, when you look at our lineup,
we need a #5 hitter and a #2 hitter. He fills one of those needs. He’s not as good as Prado, but he’s not a #8 hitter like most of what is out there on teh 2B/3B market.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 5, 2011 11:44 AM MST up reply actions
I see him as a 6 or 7
He doesnt run fast enough or get on base at a high enough clip for me to pencil him in batting 2nd. And I need more power from #5.
I don't think he meant to imply Polanco would fill in at #5.
- makes perfect sense though.
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 5, 2011 12:00 PM MST up reply actions
who on the roster now would be a better obp fit for #2?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 12:03 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
SABR optimized or traditionalist?
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In terms of ‘lets get a guy who makes sense numbers-wise, and who Jim Tracy is likely to view as a #2 hitter’
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well if we had polanco
he’d have to hit second if he was playing 2B
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by purpleJerseygirl on Dec 5, 2011 2:34 PM MST up reply actions
I have no idea
So, I’ll answer with, We are doomed!
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This is where the Hammer would fit in nicely
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MLB Average was .320 among all players. Not quite average.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 5, 2011 11:34 AM MST up reply actions
he won't be an all star
But I don’t see any available, acquirable players at a reasonable cost with even average skills
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 11:34 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Well, he's not more exciting that Prado, certainly.
But when Polanco is compared to our current list of candidates for 2012 Colorado Rockies Starting Second/Third Baseperson, I find him rather exciting.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 5, 2011 11:18 AM MST up reply actions
But she’s a Pitchess.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 5, 2011 11:22 AM MST up reply actions
Sorry. Pitchress.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 5, 2011 11:23 AM MST up reply actions
Good thing pitcher is already gender-neutral.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 11:25 AM MST up reply actions
Theoretically, so is actor.
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Well, from my experience, generally the people who most often use the term "actress" aren't actually actors or otherwise involved with acting..
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 11:32 AM MST up reply actions
Well, when I make it to Hollywood...
I’d prefer all of my love scenes to be with actresses.
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His career BABIP is .311, it dipped to .292 in 2011. It should be expected to rebound
Especially at Coors Field. It’s like getting a cheaper version of Michael Young.
Very favorable comparison, but a little overly optomistic
Michael Young rebounded, at 34, to have one of the two or three best years of his career.
If it’s realistic to expect Polanco (who’s had perhaps as good, but also a less consistent career than Young), to do the same at 36, then of course sign me up. I just don’t see it.
Of course, like any other hypothetical, I guess it depends on who we’d have to trade to get him. I just don’t understand the level of excitement over this.
Just a small town kid who thinks Coors Field on a sunny summer Saturday night is the best place to be on this or any other plane of existence. When a late-inning Todd Helton go-ahead homerun is added to this scenario, my brain melts.
acquisition cost is the important variable we don't know yet with Polanco
and the excitement probably comes from us assuming too much about his affordability. There is a point where he wouldn’t be worth it, either. Right now I do think Prado’s price is in that category.
my siren went off too
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 11:20 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
amusing too, bc I traded for him in July 2011 in my first ever ootp game
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 11:25 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
now I'm going to be bummed when we don't trade for him :(
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any chance he can be the PTBNL
in the wiggy trade??
seems fair, he is a player,
and we are naming him later
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by El Paso Jeff on Dec 5, 2011 11:30 AM MST up reply actions
There are no flaws in that logic...
Dr. Cooper, I presume?
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Would we play Polanco at 3rd or 2nd?
I’m down either way
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 5, 2011 12:01 PM MST up reply actions
I know he plays 3rd
but could he play 2nd? Or am I too late to the party and we already have decided that he sucks because of some sabermetric stat over the past 3 years?
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 5, 2011 12:11 PM MST up reply actions
he hasn't seriously played 2B since 2009
82 innings in 2010, and 1 in 2011. that said, i’m sure he could still do a decent job, as his career UZR/150 is 10.5 at 2B, with an 11.5 mark in 1289 innings in detroit in 2009
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reason i ask is because if he plays
2nd, he can bat 2nd, if he plays 3rd likely he won’t bat until 5 or 6
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 5, 2011 12:18 PM MST up reply actions
BARTLETT
@ Second! DO it!
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 5, 2011 12:02 PM MST up reply actions
no
i’ve about had it with all-glove, no-upside guys at the keystone
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a little bit of upside in Bartlett.
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 5, 2011 12:04 PM MST up reply actions
only if you think that tropicano and petco have been harming him
he’s only had 2 good offensive seasons, both resulting from massive BABIP luck
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well maybe if its 2 seasons of BABIP luck
its more of a BABIP skill
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 5, 2011 12:12 PM MST up reply actions
2 seasons 3 years apart with different teams in different ballparks?
with jumps of .030 and .050?
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This isn't completely true, but some people are being wrong in discounting a player's best seasons
and looking only at a player’s worst, or vice versa. You have to consider the whole story on everybody, including so called outlier years. Aubrey Huff’s a good example of how players can repeat their peak seasons unexpectedly.
and if we follow the 3-year pattern for bartlett, he's due for about a 180 wRC+
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if it doesn't cost a whole lot in terms of prospects
I’d rather put my faith in Jason Bartlett, who is great with his glove, anddecent with his bat, than Johnny Herrera who does nothing
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 5, 2011 12:13 PM MST up reply actions
We had our chance at Uggla. Just saying
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also the last time he played second
was for one inning in 2004
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keep an eye on Jeff Keppinger
Could be nontendered by the giants
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 11:38 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Really? It seems like a good fit for them.
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I would lean that way too, but It's a possibility
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 11:42 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
a name I wanted earlier this offseason, remember.
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 5, 2011 11:39 AM MST up reply actions
I can trade him to you after he comes off the DL.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 5, 2011 12:31 PM MST up reply actions
Not interested
Not a good defender, only ability he has is contact, doesn’t walk much, little power, and his value is tied to BABIP. We can surely find someone who puts up more than Keppinger’s .318 wOBA who plays better defense.
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LD% will play well here.
Better option than you’d think.
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 5, 2011 12:15 PM MST up reply actions
if all it costs is money or a low level prospect? Yeah, absolutely
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I would hope so too,
I’d rather have Polanco or Prado, but Keppinger’s not too far down the list as a possibly more realistic Rockies fit.
oh he's no Plan A
But he is absolutely worth keeping an eye on as a fallback option. He would be a cheap upgrade
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 12:41 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
C'mon GM's
This stove needs to get hotter.
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But if you only remember one thing...
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Get Polanco to play 2b, get a platoon partner for Smith, and sign Kuroda. We’re looking at a 6-8 win improvement while losing no one from the farm system and keeping payroll similar to next season – particularly if we also trade Street.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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I don’t think he’s ever really said anything about COL one way or the other (though I could have missed something the past 48 hours). He only wanted to play in LA until LA moved on, now it’s wide open…
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is he asking for multiple years? Because I’ll give him 2 years or 3
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
by waterboy31321 on Dec 5, 2011 12:20 PM MST up reply actions
i think he only wants 1
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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ROFLMAO! I'm crying because I'm laughing so hard
It’s funny because it’s so damn true!
This is the best thing I have read in a very long time.
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You should read his book - 'Sh*t My Dad Says"
Much more of the same hilarious stuff. I laughed the whole way thru.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
Oh that's who the guy is?
The one behind the failed “Sh*t My Dad Says” TV show?
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Yeah.
I never saw the show but his book and his twitter feed are like the funniest thing ever.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
I prefer to punch people in the face who insult me...
rather than fist them but that could be down to personal preference.
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A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
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Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
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o_O
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Did you see his picture?
He was an Aztec – just noticed it.
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A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
Hello? Those were the Mayans. :)
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
Don't go starting World War 2012 - Aztecs v Mayans
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The world will come to an end in '12 if DOD doesn't go out and improve this ballclub!
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A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
Isn't that the Bruckheimer film for next summer?
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Bruckheimer? Who's that?
Michael Bay!
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I thought they were basically the same person
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Bruckheimer made Bay a career, Bay makes Bruckheimer money to keep paying for The Amazing Race.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 1:46 PM MST up reply actions
So really they are both Mark Burnett?
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Mark Burnett is not connected to The Amazing Race.
But, somehow, this is still correct. :p
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 2:01 PM MST up reply actions
I'm sorry to tell you
you’ve both been eliminated from the race..
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The tribe has spoken
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
You will not be America's Next Top Model
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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Please pack your knives and go
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You are out.
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You are the weakest link.
Goodbye.
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You're fired.
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Yes. Yes she was.
Insert wiener joke here.
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Who do you think will win it?
Insert wiener joke here.
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I hope it's Guarnaschelli
My friend hopes for Faulkner. We sort of have these debates about it. Truth is I have no idea. So much luck seems to be involved in any reality TV contest, particularly one with time limits on cooking.
last night seemed
really tough for some reason. Especially with the secret ingredients handed to them.
Insert wiener joke here.
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Thanks for the Spoiler
Haven’t watched that episode yet.
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Get well soon Juan.
sorry :(
I should have known better to say anything anyway, it’s not like any of these people are cooking for the Rockies.
No worries.
In those shows, I’m more about the journey than the result. However I was very pleased with the outcome of the Sing Off this year.
Avalance 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
I thought he was one of the original producers.
Oh well my bad.
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I'm absolutely certain you are not the only one to make that mistake.
TAR is so Burnettian it’s ridiculous.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 3:14 PM MST up reply actions
But it's much better IMO
that anything else Burnett has done. I should have realized my mistake right away.
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Going to vastly disagree on that point, as Survivor continutes to be one of my most studied television shows.
And I got bored from TAR after about four years.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 3:17 PM MST up reply actions
Well I hate Survivor but that's just me :)
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You're not the only one in that camp either.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 3:20 PM MST up reply actions
I actually enjoy them both
but in totally different ways. TAR is definitely the one you can feel more proud of admitting to watching, but playing along with the strategy of Survivor can be fun. And yeah, at some levels it’s also just mindless trash TV. Not that TAR doesn’t have those moments, but it would rather try to hide that fact, while Survivor takes pride in it…
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Survivor is most valuable to me precisely because I DON"T view it as trash.
Otherwise, I wouldn’t benefit from the experience. Of course, what I consider beneficial when it comes to television is radically different from most.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 3:57 PM MST up reply actions
Didn't mean to say it's all trash
I really do find the strategic parts of it, the various strategies people try to employ (“I’m going to win all the challenges”, “I’m going to be non-threatening”, “I’ll work so hard they’ll NEVER vote me out”, “I’m going to make them all hate me so they’ll want to take me to the end”) to be fascinating. But I can’t say that the show necessarily functions at that level 100% of the time.
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Not to get too theoretical on you...
… but I take the position that that sort of assessment is entirely in the eye of the beholder. There’s nothing wrong with watching Survivor as a trashy, shallow entertainment experience. It’s just not my attitude towards it, personally.
It satisfies me on both a cultural and televisual level. I continue to write a lot of material on it. It presents a very wide range of potential academic studies.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 4:08 PM MST up reply actions
See, now I want to read what you wrote...
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One of these days, when I get all of my blogging together...
… I might post a lot of that stuff.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 4:13 PM MST up reply actions
is that the alternate name for 3B War 2012?
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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When I was in college, so did I.
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The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
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Haven't you seen the pictures of the college students on here?
Same thing.
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Works out for you later...
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The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
Meeting with Rollins “did not go well”
I would love it if Jimmy Rollins ended up giving us Placido Polanco for a song.
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I suggest this song.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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And J-Roll becomes your 2012 Rockies Second Baseman!
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A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
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I think Tulo would punch him in the face
/still bitter about GG snub from 2007
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imagine if holliday were here, then
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He was there then.....
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comma makes it read as if it were
“then imagine if holliday were here”
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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Or even better
“imagine if Holliday were still here” :)
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Renck:
Rockies’ folks said today still believe Geivett has real shot at Astros GM post
This is what posting at Purple Row can lead to, boys and girls.
I wish him luck.
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It's anyway, not anyways.
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My sympathies to him
Just kidding, actually. He’d start with his team at the bottom of the heap due to a mess he obviously didn’t create, so there would be nowhere to go but up.
But he wouldn’t have the payroll resources to really do anything for at least a year (Crane has made it clear payroll will initially go down, not up, and C. Lee isn’t off the books until after 2012 season). I guess he’d mainly evaluate in-house prospects during that time, plus trying to move Wandy & Myers for more of the same.
damn....I should have put my resume in
My purple row acumen puts his to shame
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 1:09 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I made it to the HR phone interview...
but then I just got that “Thank you for your interest…” form email.
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Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
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Did he have a PR account?
as I am relatively new I have no knowledge of history, and or the people who use this site
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Yes he did
he had a few fan posts where he answered questions from us. Very nice. If you search his name you will find him.
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JFK
Yep,
here’s one of his FanPosts…
I really am rooting for him to get the Astros job, but it would be a shame for the Rockies to lose him.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 9:07 PM MST up reply actions
Redhawk missed on so much in his posts on this one..
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 5, 2011 9:37 PM MST up reply actions
That isn't unusual
But that time was not his best. He was all about the Crosby/Berroa comps
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 9:47 PM MST up reply actions
As long as it's not Thad Levine...
I want him back here.
If Geivett goes
Would it make sense to elevate Rolando Fernandez, or is he too valuable where he is?
That’s the one guy I don’t want to see interviewing for jobs with other MLB teams.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 5, 2011 1:56 PM MST up reply actions
I was meaning to answer this question but it must have skipped my mind.
Fernandez is extremely valuable to the Rockies in his current role, but it would make sense to me that somewhere down the line he’d get an Assistant GM title and paybump while keeping similar responsibility. And I really don’t see why he couldn’t be seen as a potential heir to O’Dowd in the GM position if he understands the money side well enough.
If he gets it....
he’ll pretty much know, for better or worse, exactly what the Rox are thinking re Wandy Rodriguez. He’ll also know which prospects are worth asking for.
#Rockies claim OF Jamie Hoffman off waivers from #Dodgers, add to 40-man roster. Hoffman, 27, hit .297 with 22 HR, 84 RBI in AAA in 2011.
Cole Garner replacement?
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Our big Winter Meetings splash :D
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 5, 2011 1:11 PM MST up reply actions
In all seriousness, solid addition.
why not.
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 5, 2011 1:13 PM MST up reply actions
especially since we have space on the 40 man
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I prefer something like this to a Rule 5 pick.
So much more roster flexibility with a similar chance of success in getting something more out of it.
That was my thinking
it eliminates any real action in the Rule 5 draft this year. Solid pickup.
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If it makes us better
Than I’ll take it.
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Get well soon Juan.
I wonder why they tweeted that he was added to the 40 Man Roster.
That’s implicit with a waiver claim.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 1:12 PM MST up reply actions
You think
everyone who reads twitter knows that?
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JFK
Yes dammit!
Because everyone reads my articles and I am super popular.
Oh.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 6:01 PM MST up reply actions
I saw Hoffman and got a little excited
thinking Trevor un-retired….oh well
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At least it wasn't Dustin...
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He's got a very bizarre contract history.
Protected from the Rule 5 after 2008, called up to the Dodgers in 2009. DFA’d then released after the season, where he re-signed with LAD for 2010, only to be Rule 5’d by the Nationals. He was returned after not making the team. Re-signed with LAD again for 2011, only to be Rule 5’d again, this time by the Yankees. Returned after not making the team. Before declaring MiLB Free Agency, the Dodgers added him to the 40 Man again to protect him from yet another Rule 5 draft… only to be claimed by the Rockies off waivers during the winter meetings.
That means that for three straight Winter Meetings, Hoffmann has seen himself leave the Dodgers for another team.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 1:27 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I yawn at most minor league transaction trivia
But this is pretty awesome
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 1:31 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
So we'll inevitably send him back to the Dodgers?
Cool, let’s trade him for Kemp!
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I don't like him.
He was suppose to play hockey years ago at Colorado College (D-1) on a full ride scholarship. A the very last second, he signed with the Dodgers and left CC scrambling to find a replacement. Because of that, I will not support this move.
Colorado College Hockey, Colorado Avalanche, Colorado Rockies fan to the death.
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OF? Former hockey player?
If we find out he’s got a weird obsession with a number, especially 3, I’m more behind this move than ever!
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Rox just signed an outfielder who hit .297 with 22 HR last year
….in the PCL. Welcome aboard, Jamie Hoffman
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 1:13 PM MST via mobile reply actions
yes, yes, carry on
/Wyoming’d
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 1:16 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
if you were in Dallas, you would have beat me to it....
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Sources tell me and @jonmorosi that #Dodgers are making progress on deal with Aaron Harang. #MLB
Dodgers rotation definitely taking a step back this year.
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yes, keep harang in the division please.
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 5, 2011 1:26 PM MST up reply actions
I sincerely hope it's a 2 year deal...
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$3 mil in 2012
$12mil in 2013
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 1:32 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
So the Marlins have signed Heath Bell AND Jose Reyes.
Go Marlins. I’m happy for those fans.
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what an odd franchise they are
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Boy, are they ever counting on fans....
coming out to the new park. I sure hope, for their sake, that the poor attendance really was a function of the previous park and not general fan apathy. ’Cause if, by August, Jose and Heath are playing in front of 6000 fans that franchise has some issues.
The new park will be a lot closer to downtown Miami and much more comfortable.
But, yeah, still a big gamble.
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It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
Based on Miami and TB, I'm not yet convinced about Florida fans
But both have/had ballpark issues and, demographically, no state should support baseball more. So you gotta think the fans are there and will hopefully come out to support two teams that are now getting pretty exciting.
Everybody fills a new park the first year
But the second half of Year #2, and beyond, might tell a different story.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 5, 2011 2:06 PM MST up reply actions
the phillies got a new park and instantly became relevant
im excited for our expansion brethren
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The Phillies also play
in probably the most crazed sports town in America
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
by waterboy31321 on Dec 5, 2011 2:26 PM MST up reply actions
And they're making serious overtures to Pujols, too.
Well on their way to Heating the league at this point.
Aggressiveness for their new branding.
I kind of saw this kind of splash coming, though if it goes much more beyond this… I definitely will be shocked.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 2:04 PM MST up reply actions
I think Buster Olney tweeted something to the fact of
The Marlins have never had a payroll over $60 million and now they owe $60 million to 5 players next year
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 5, 2011 2:23 PM MST up reply actions
F' Yes
so cool. For him of course and also for our rotation.
I predict (for no reason) this will cause him to make his secondary pitches more effective
The Big Purple Machine will make a believer outta you!
The psychological impact is what's next to determine....
Pitchers can go one of two ways — either they have lurking fear that affects them or they think “I’ve survived it once, what are the odds of it happening again?” and carry on as normal.
I couldn’t blame anyone who ends up in the former category. You’ve just gotta hope Juan ends up in the second group.
Just based on the mentality he appears to have, I'd bet on him being in the second group.
No way to know for sure quite yet, but I’m certainly cautiously optimistic.
Me, too
He seems like a pretty tough dude.
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"We made too many wrong mistakes" - Yogi Berra (again)
"I believe there is a universal truth to the process of doing things right."
- Huston Street
"Jim Tracy is not my HomeBoy" - me
by purpleJerseygirl on Dec 5, 2011 2:49 PM MST up reply actions
I just want give Juan a hug.
Nuestro dogo.
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
/it is a new beginning, right?
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I totally have a new favorite Rockie.
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by glaucophane on Dec 5, 2011 4:27 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
hmm is right
I figured they would sign a JD Drew type
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 5, 2011 2:24 PM MST up reply actions
I totally forgot the meetings started and had a nice productive morning
Pretty much screwed now. Every time Renck tweets something I’m back to square one on my projects :)
I have a music video to start editing.
Not happening today….
And the meetings last through Thursday. Uhohs.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 3:03 PM MST up reply actions
Ahhhh yeah
Winter Meetings. Delicious.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
Mile High Hockey : Where B- is different than C+
This is my kind of interview
Hello new favorite prospect
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
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uh, wrong blog dude.
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I'd like him more
If he didn’t block me on Twitter. :’(
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 2:54 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Why did he block you?
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JFK
Nolan Arenado [the Rockies No. 4 prospect] has been challenging me to play the NHL game
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<3 <3 <3 <3
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No. 4? Really?
Clearly they haven’t checked the PuRPs lately.
He's an easy #2 around most places these days.
They could have been using pre-season rankings.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 3:15 PM MST up reply actions
it had to be preseason rankings
As friedrich was named #3 in the lede, which is at least a dozen spots too high
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 4:38 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
You aren't getting $79/hour to comment here?
I thought everybody was getting that…
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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i'm getting paid in turnips
this is inexcusable!
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OT: VB is the retarded stepchild of programming languages
Whoever designed it should be drawn and quaretered
/rant
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Get well soon Juan.
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I didn't want to know who
But now that I know, its time for action.
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I’ll call my lawyer.
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You.
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Thank you
I will hunt him down when the Migrane he has caused goes away.
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Get well soon Juan.
I read that link as Alice_Cooper at first
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It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
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I wouldn't do anything to harm Alice Cooper
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It's 3:00 here and I haven't eaten anything yet.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 3:07 PM MST up reply actions
OT: I can vaguely hear
that one of my neighbors is playing “Mr. Sandman”. I guessed the song in 4 notes.
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That’s funny… because I thought the same thing.
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"...and lots of wavy hair like Liberace..."
Did gaydar not exist in the ’50s?
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Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
people didn't become gay until the 80s
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Excellent point.
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Yeah, before that they had
“confirmed bachelors”
I think Elton John was gay in the 1970s.
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Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
I think Elton John was gay long before the 70's
I’m thinking like since 1947
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I've been gay since
the summer of 81.
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people didn’t become gay until the 80s
I’ve been gay since the summer of 81.
So right when it started becoming cool…..
/hipster
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she does like to knit and drink micro-brews.
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Don't hipsters quaff PBR now?
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It's anyway, not anyways.
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too mainstream.
Insert wiener joke here.
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and only in the tall cans.
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Yes.
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They knit skinny jeans...and beanies.
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http://www.amazon.com/Knitting-Just-Grandma-Anymore-ebook/dp/B004VF6AP4
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Either they left a word out of the title link...
… or people are knitting far more complex products than I could have ever known.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 3:18 PM MST up reply actions
So it's the hipsters that knit the grandmothers?
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 3:21 PM MST up reply actions
Doncha think?
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Aha.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 3:26 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
hilarious!
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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REC'D
Looks at wife sitting her chair crocheting now and wonders what it will be like in 20 years. LOL
77 today and 76 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
Wouldn't that be gayster?
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And a grayster when she enters her later years...
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Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
Congrats on 30-plus years!
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A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
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I’ve got my magic beam locked and loaded.
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I had a moment like that this weekend.
We were eating at a local establishment on Friday close to the bar, and the bar was very crowded and loud. I was able to pick out “Don’t Stand So Close to Me” by the Police by only hearing the drums of the song.
Avalance 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
Jeez, I guess I did too. :)
Never mind my Doo Doo D-Doo Doo
me four...
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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And I pictured your next door neighbor as the next door neighbor in 'Office Space'.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
From a peace and quiet standpoint....
I’d rather have a neighbor who plays “Mr. Sandman” than “Enter Sandman”
I don't know.
If they played it really loud over and over Mr. Sandman could get really annoying.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
From a peace and quiet standpoint....
I’d rather have a neighbor who plays “Mr. Sandman” than “Enter Sandman”
I'm the neighbor that plays both!
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What an awesome mash-up!
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Eclectic you might say!
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I pictured Beavis and Butt-head's Anderson.
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Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
Nous avons un gagner!
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I figured most here would.
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Jerry Crasnick tweets that the Rays are making a big play for Willingham.
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Carlos Guillen? career ,813 hitter against LHP has played everywhere in the IF
some OF?
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Still would prefer Prado & Willingham
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
/it is a new beginning, right?
by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 5, 2011 2:49 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
well yeah but I am thinking as an FA instead of Polanco in the Herrera role
likely cost a couple mil less, lose a little defense (although a Career above average SS)
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I believe Rox Girl wrote an article about Guillen last offseason
Or maybe it was just a comment. Or maybe I made it up in my brain.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 3:09 PM MST up reply actions
Somebody wrote something because everyone got confused about the Guillens.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 3:09 PM MST up reply actions
not making it up.
He’s on my list, but as others have pointed out, there are other players ahead of him.
So here's my day at the moment:
.“Oooh, Renck has one new tweet!”
“Crap, it’s just a retweet”
“Hey, Renck has another new tweet!”
rinse, lather, repeat
I was so excited to find out the subsequent tweet when he posted the question about Polanco.
But then rather deflated when the answer was “I don’t know, I’ll ask.”
So it's like no one reads.....
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I have my baseball twitter feed up which has several hundred accounts on it.
Every time I look up I have like 45 new tweets to read.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 3:10 PM MST up reply actions
They’re all tweets about waiting for tweets about the meetings.
Very Meta.
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You might say it's just a big tweeting.
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26 minutes since last MLBTraderumors post
Enough with the lollygagging, lollygaggers.
Seriously, that site is like crack
I hope someone is raking in the dough from that thing, ’cause they deserve it
Meanwhile
I’m going to need to find a new keyboard, I’m wearing out the ‘z’ key.
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Get well soon Juan.
Meetings are probably winding down for the day, unless the GMs and agents continute to deal while out partying in the evening.
With cigars and brandy.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 3:12 PM MST up reply actions
Personally,
I always preferred Monica.
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I hope no one gets drunk enough to pass out in the elevator again.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
they always do.
That’s usually where the best stuff happens. Bill Bavasi was always hilariously terrible at drunk trades. I miss those days.
CJ Wilson has a 6 year offer on the table
$20 says it’s the Nationals
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Given he's not a Boras client, he may actually have one in hand.
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it's probably those pesky marlins
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 5, 2011 3:31 PM MST up reply actions
Blow up the Marlins!
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Go Rockies
Score a goal. Unit. Basket. Go squadron! Do good! Defeat the opponents soundly in this...skirmish.
Go Dan O'Dowd, more like.
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 5, 2011 3:38 PM MST up reply actions
Renck:
Though Rox would have to move $ first. They have interest in Placido Polanco
WOOT!
Also, quite a bit of interest in Smith, and Harding tweets that Rogers has improved command in the Dominican. That’s sort of an odd one to come up without context.
Probably shouldn't have capitalized that woot!
I’m excited, but not that excited until more info comes out that makes it seem more realistic.
god forbid something be misconstrued on the internet
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I heard Drew Pomeranz too.
Unbelievable!
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 3:59 PM MST up reply actions
brett tanos poised to be OD starter
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At both second and third.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 4:02 PM MST up reply actions
And yet another two year deal from Dodgers to a guy who any other team would offer just one...
This time for Jerry Hairston Jr.
That's quite the arsenal of talent they're accumulating.
by Shoemaker on Dec 5, 2011 4:02 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Considering how they've had guys like Carroll and Miles work out recently...
… I wouldn’t be surprised to see them sign every player of this type on the market.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 4:03 PM MST up reply actions
/Jim Tracy sobs with jealousy...
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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I think he dreams of the day that he can rotate the entire infield one position to the right every inning
“This is a very special defense. You can’t do something like this with most defenses, which is what makes them special. So very, very special
The conversion of all of them into switch hitters has been going slow, but I’m optimistic"
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I <3 Johnson
by SurfaceThought on Dec 5, 2011 4:11 PM MST up reply actions
work out is probably a relative term.
Neither were supposed to be their starters in 2011, those were supposed to be Uribe and Blake, remember.
Yes, and as I have been reminded before, Uribe fits that bill but did not follow the positive trend himself.
I certainly wouldn’t even pretend to qualify that as any sort of legitimate observation that a team should take into consideration. I just think I’m going to be keeping my eye on those players when they play for the Dodgers for a while, based on the goofy little observation there.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 4:10 PM MST up reply actions
I would put air quotes around at least three words in this sentence
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per Rosenthal
Sources: Hairston is done with #Dodgers. Passes physical. 2 yrs, 6M plus incentives. #MLB
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
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FYP
Because he is a Hairston Dodger and that is what Hairstons Dodgers do.
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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#Dodgers still working on Harang. Deal expected to be north of Capuano. Two years, $12M range. #MLB
HA HA HA OMG IT’S TOO EASY
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as someone at TBLA put it
0.5 million in 2012
11.5 million in 2013
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Hairston deal done, and predictably backloaded
$2.25m in 2012, $3.75m in 2013, per Dylan
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A well-stocked arsenal
usually needs to include more than cannon fodder..
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Hey, a Zerg Rush is a legitimate strategy.
by Shoemaker on Dec 5, 2011 4:08 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
\m/
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...
Unless you’re playing as the protos
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by SurfaceThought on Dec 5, 2011 4:16 PM MST up reply actions
That's what the cannons are for.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 4:18 PM MST up reply actions
bahahhahaha
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The management isn't going to be around for the second year,
so why not?
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That's funny and sad
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I apoligize if this has been posted...
But it looks as tho the Rockies are plugging some emergency outfield depth. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/12/rockies-claim-jamie-hoffmann.html
DOD perhaps getting some outfield depth prior to trading Smith/X?
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It was posted above,
It’s certainly a depth move, but Hoffman’s path to the MLB is probably unrelated to a Smith trade. I still like the possibility that there’s more upside to him, though. I see it as similar to the Brandon Wood move earlier this off season.
Plus Andrew Brown
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 4:12 PM MST up reply actions
Hello Row!
I hope the Colorado residents among us are staying warm.
If anyone here feels a particular need to sport an opinion about Ian Stewart, I would ask them to check out the fanpost I just wrote, called the “Ian Stewart Poll” I am interested to see what the general view of his abilities is on the Row these days.
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If there is indeed anymore of an opinion than that still floating around
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by SurfaceThought on Dec 5, 2011 4:43 PM MST up reply actions
Tweets too much
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No, is from Southern California :)
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worse yet, from the OC!
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great show
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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eh... it was only good for the occasional girl/girl kissing and Peter Gallagher.
And there wasn’t enough of either.
autumn reeser
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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meh. Pretty boring.
I like Ben McKenzie MUCH better on “Southland”.
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Crasnick:
#Rockies decision to claim Jamie Hoffman on waivers increases likelihood they’ll non-tender Ryan Spilborghs, source says
I think Spilly was most likely to be non-tendered anyway, but this does make me a bit sad.
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If we non-tender Spilborghs and trade Stewart and Smith...
… we’ll be down to just two players, Helton and Tulowitzki, who played on the 2007 team.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 5:33 PM MST up reply actions
TrippingOlney:
THE DODGERS HAVE SPENT $22 MILLION ON CHRIS CAPUANO AND AARON HARANG. WHO WOULDN’T WANT TO OWN THAT FRANCHISE?
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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Quick
someone put together the Dodgers Opening Day infield with the following players:
Mark Ellis
Jerry Hairston
Juan Uribe
Adam Kennedy
AJ Ellis
Mark Treanor
Dee Gordon
Justin Sellers
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Here goes nothing:
1B: Um…um…um…no idea
2B: Mark Ellis
SS: Dee Gordon
3B: Juan Uribe
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
2013, Elis, Rivera (assuming his option is picked up), Capuano, Harang and Hairston will make around $30mil
I spitballed Hairston/Harang together as $6.5 million in 2012 and $11.5 million in 2013, so if that is true and Rivera’s option gets picked up we are looking at:
$16 million in 2012
$26.75 million in 2013
for those 5 players
My. God.
I almost feel bad for Dodgers fans…
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I'm glad you sad almost
because I was gonna be worried
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Hairston will be 35 in 2012, and his average salary on this deal is the highest of his career
Beating out….six years ago
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 5:57 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
so very very sad
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JFK
Kennedy "3-hole hitter" at first?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 5:58 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Matt Kemp batting ninth.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 6:02 PM MST up reply actions
More Crasnick:
#Rockies briefly considered Garland but took a pass because of concerns over his health.
Apparently the pitcher will work out for clubs in January. I’d rather have Millwood for that role.
Speaking of Ian, Renck tweets
T
royRenck Troy Renck, Rockies
#Rockies’ Ian Stewart is swinging lightly off tee. Wrist is healing. He’s in Calif now working w hitting coach
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Britt Ghiroli:
Orioles in on several fa’s. About 65 percent of trade talks are for pitching. Duq said hes confident at least one deal gets done.
I bring this up because no team has been connected to the Orioles in pitching trade rumors with the O’s this offseason than the Rockies.
sorry for the redundancy...
did I mention that I’ve had plenty of Trader Joe’s Vintage Ale this evening? I’m using it as an excuse for my standard errors and talking about TV shows.
Hmm..does the Vintage Ale give you headaches?
Because the two buck chuck gives me crushing headaches….
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I love the Vintage Ale...
but most alcohol gives me headaches if I don’t also hydrate, so I’m probably not good to ask.
Renck:
#Rockies’ O’Dowd said he sees Pacheco as someone who could catch 25-30 games, while playing some 1B and 3B. They believe he will hit
25 to 30 games!?
Isn’t that sort of a lot, given we one of the best young catchers in the league and we just signed a seasoned and productive veteran?
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by SurfaceThought on Dec 5, 2011 5:39 PM MST up reply actions
I never take these PT estimates too seriously,
as they frequently won’t work out logically, but it could imply Rosario will be in AAA to start the season.
I once heard O'Dowd predict...
that Neifi Perez would steal 40 bases the next season. It was 2000. He says a lot of hooey.
Well, it depends on how they plan to use all three players.
If before we were expecting Hernandez to start around 90 games and Rosario to catch the rest, if all three players end up on the team, Pacheco as a catching option could leave Rosario available for pinch hitting duties in some situations. The question really will be all about whether or not we want Rosario in a pseudo-platoon or as a complete backup. But this statement is important because if they only see Pacheco able to catch 25-30 at best, he won’t be in consideration for the typical bench catcher’s roster spot unless it’s for only part of the season like Rox Girl just said above.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 5:43 PM MST up reply actions
Steve Gilbert:
Only way #Dbacks will re-engage #Rockies in trade talks for Ian Stewart is if they fail to get Overbay.
Wait, wait, wait. We were considering trading Ian
to a division rival? I just …wat?
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If I recall correctly
the Snakes were offering Gerardo Parra for him at the trade deadline. Or at least I think that was the rumor.
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that was the rumor
I didn’t see any confirmation of that, though
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that part of Towers' press conference was actually broken by Nick Piecoro
I just didn’t scroll down my Twitter feed update far enough.
I think I would rather keep Overbay
and that’s not saying much I think.
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Stewart for Parra.
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 5, 2011 5:19 PM MST up reply actions
if he can get Kershaw ejected out of a game. Why not?
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Ian Stewart will kill the Rockies
If he goes to AZ. He’s better off in the Springs than in Phoenix or San Diego.
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ooooof.
The New York Mets: Where Jason Bay is worth 18 million a year but Jose Reyes isn’t.
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 5, 2011 5:20 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
LOLMETZ
Colorado College Hockey, Colorado Avalanche, Colorado Rockies fan to the death.
"We should be dreaming. We grew up as kids having dreams, but now we're too sophisticated as adults, as a nation. We stopped dreaming. We should always have dreams." -Herb Brooks
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=897jlnmTYqE
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That's gonna leave a mark....
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Scott Miller at CBS Sports is an idiot.
Good day for Dodgers. Hairston and Harang (it looks like) good moves.
No wonder they wanted Heyman.
well said
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 5:55 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Renck tweets
TroyRenck Troy Renck, Rockies
#Rockies talked to Braves this morning. Will wait to see if Braves come back to them regarding Prado.
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Good move, play it cool
we don’t want to come off as too needy…
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I wonder what the Rockies reps were wearing
Nothing too formal I hope, that could totally send bad signals
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by SurfaceThought on Dec 5, 2011 5:27 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah but if you dress too casually
you come across as though you don’t care at all.
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The Winter Meetings:
Sort of like MLB Prom
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by SurfaceThought on Dec 5, 2011 5:31 PM MST up reply actions
More like Homecoming
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Sadie Hawkins?
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hmmmm.....
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Actually, its a far more perverse sort of dance
Where you can ask two mediocre girls to the dance and then trade them both for a really good one next year
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by SurfaceThought on Dec 5, 2011 5:36 PM MST up reply actions
so Ned Colletti is dancing with five fat girls in the corner
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 5:55 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Fat girls can still be pretty.
I think it’s more like he’s in a corner by himself with a few drawings of girls that he made in art class.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 5:57 PM MST up reply actions
as totally not sexy as Hairston and Harang are
They are still real girls players.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 5:59 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I don't know...
Harang always struck me as looking a bit computer generated.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 6:03 PM MST up reply actions
Poor Ned
his dad had to sell the car, so he can only get girls that don’t mind riding to the dance in a cab, and will go along with his promise of a great date next year, since he can’t afford to buy them dinner now.
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This is why I think Polanco makes more sense at the moment, pending what else happens.
Until the Braves cave on the Arenado price for Prado, Polanco’s at the top of my wishlist.
Leverage.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 5, 2011 10:36 PM MST up reply actions
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hmmm...I've seen a few places saying that Carlos Quentin could be moved
Yes.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 5, 2011 5:29 PM MST reply actions
What do the ChiSox need?
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by SurfaceThought on Dec 5, 2011 5:32 PM MST up reply actions
A farm system.
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by Muzia on Dec 5, 2011 5:33 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Did I hear you say "AAAA" players?
Because, checks files by god we have some of those!
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by SurfaceThought on Dec 5, 2011 5:34 PM MST up reply actions
truth be told, you pack enough of our "tools"
prospects that didn’t work out like Gomez and Nelson and Carlos Martinez, etc.., and it actually might entice that organization.
that does explain
their demands for Danks and Floyd…
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John Shea, re Giants:
Beltran seems iffy, running out of payroll space. “we only have so much to spend,” Sabean said.
Just when there’s actually an aging player worth spending money on, too…
already out of payroll space?
Did they even show up at the Meetings?
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beltran has to be the most forgotten FA of this offseason
him and K-rod… hm, both ex-mets….
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actually
both overpaid as ex-mets
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well we don't know that yet
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I wrote that wrong
as mets they were both overpaid
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beltran wasn't overpaid
he was worth ~32 WAR over that contract
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which based on changing market rates was worth anywhere from $120 to $160 million
he was either paid fairly, or underpaid…. saying beltran was overpaid is akin to saying helton was
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I just didn't look at what he had done
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/themoreyouknow.jpg
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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the happier I'll be?
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JFK
/themoreyouknow.jpg
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dammit...blew the joke
was supposed to be
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HAHAHA.
I hope we acquire Guthrie just so we can have this on our team:
@JGuthrie46 Meanwhile other teams seeking relievers who get nobody out. RT @masnRoch:#orioles looking for relievers who can get lefties & righties out.
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awesome!
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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I'm up for that
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JFK
I have seen Dotel's name in rumors a lot lately..
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Susan Slusser:
Billy Beane on A’s popularity at winter meetings: “I feel like the hottest prom date.” #Athletics
It might be cost prohibitive to get one of their starters with so much interest, but they sure are enticing.
So it IS like the prom....heh
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So soes this mean the Rox can go with a certain player and leave with another one
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The best plan is to go with no one and leave with someone.
That’s what I did at my senior prom. It works out a lot cheaper that way.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 5, 2011 10:38 PM MST up reply actions
Worse yet is when they show up in the same frakking dress!
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I'll bet Brad Pitt was the hottest prom date once too.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 5:58 PM MST up reply actions
Until
He traded his hot date for several unattractive ones he felt were under-vauled by conventional statistics (they were funny, I guess)
Or smart.
Intelligence is always the most attractive trait to us weirdos. :D
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 6:01 PM MST up reply actions
He's a guy, so Sadie Hawkins...
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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Astros telling teams they would pay half of C Lee, B Myers contracts, but won’t pay any of Wandy contract
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I was more struck by the Wandy note.
Up until now, I had been under the impression that the Astros would pretty much HAVE to eat at least some of the 2012 salary to get any sort of return beyond some salary dumping. When we appeared on the Crawfish Boxes podcast, they seemed to feel that any Wandy trade would involve some salary relief.
Then again, that was back in the day, when Ed Wade was still around. Heh.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 6:05 PM MST up reply actions
Interesting.
I don’t know if Myers would work well in Coors.
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It shows what sort of market there is for the players in question,
The truth may turn out to be that they have to eat part of Wandy’s and even more of Myers/Lee to get what they want back.
Brett Myers would be a solid pickup
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Not a good "character guy"...
which would be out of O’Dowd’s character.
No offense to O'Dowd
but who cares? His xFIP in 2011 was similar to his stellar 2010 season and he can definitely eat innings.
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On that score...
Manny Ramirez could help us when he’s eligible in May.
BANNED! For even mentioning that name
LOL
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A 40 year Manny after a year off?
No thanks, thought my sarcasm detector might be sensing something…..
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<3 manny
….well, <3 manny’s OBP skills, anyhow
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Drew Pomeranz would like a word :)
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Really? Why?
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Seriously? He's a woman beater, and has done nothing to show he's sincerely apologetic about it.
Why would I want that anywhere near my team as a woman?
Or as anyone, IMO.
Not being interested in signing Brett Myers definitely goes a lot beyond “we want a happy clubhouse”. Dude has serious issues.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 6:08 PM MST up reply actions
He would have fit right in
within with the 2010 Broncos.
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Shit, I completely misread that for baseball reasons
I know his domestic issues
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Seriously, if you thought that, I utterly apologize.
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it's okay.
No, I’d probably be better with him if he was doing something like donating to awareness programs or domestic violence shelters, but absent that, sorry. The guy needs to disappear from a sport that pays him so well.
Well, apparently he hasn't done anything since that at least thankfully
…that we know of?
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It's a serious anger issue, and it shows zero restraint when it comes to lashing out physically at weaker people
That sort of hair trigger likely needs years of counselling to overcome, but in a position where one’s wealth is as public as a MLB player’s is, it likely also needs an act of public contrition in the form I talked about above.
I really am willing to forgive one time mistakes for sincerely apologetic people, but Myers doesn’t fit the bill.
I agree with this, Myers is a well known douchebag
But with what the Rockies may end up in pitching, I’m willing to consider all options. If any sort of deal were to occur (which would obviously be unlikely considering the Rockies history with bad character players), I’m sure the Rockies would exhaust all options in finding a way to make sure Myers doesn’t continue to be a prick.
I just want to win.
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As a man, I agree...
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On June 23, 2006, Myers was arrested and charged with assault after witnesses saw him punching his wife, Kim Myers on a downtown Boston street after an argument. The Phillies received criticism from some media members and women’s organizations for not benching Myers. Myers took a short leave of absence from the team.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 5, 2011 6:08 PM MST up reply actions
I wonder why they signed him to an extension in the first place then
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and decide to trade him a year after
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I would not.
Where are you getting this information? I’m firing my assistant GM.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 5, 2011 10:39 PM MST up reply actions
More Slusser, re A's:
Beane also said that the club might explore short-term options (free agents) for OF spots if they can’t fill spots via trades. #Athletics
That last “if they can’t fill spots via trades,” clause is of some interest, as I definitely think Smith could be a match there, as I assume the Rockies are less likely to tax the Oakland farm system than trading for somebody like Carlos Quentin would.
That does sound interesting
with the trade relationship of Beane and O’Dowd this is actually possible.
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too bad the Hammer is a FA
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once again
“if they can’t fill spots via trades”
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I misread that. Oops
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he's not a short term option...
the tweet actually implies that he’s out of their picture for that, so I’m not sure what it has to do with anything.
read comment above yours.
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its ok.
Updated sig.
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D'oh! Maybe there goes that...
Slusser:
To separate realistic rumors from iffy: Beane firm that #Athletics are looking for players YOUNGER in return than those they’d be trading.
Gio Gonzalez is 25, Cahill 23, McCarthy 27, Outman 26
Rockies outfielders:
Smith 28, Blackmon 24, Wheeler 23, Matthes 24
I don't think I'd mind
trading Matthes after last season, but he is a bit old for Beane’s wish list.
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Old for Cahill, but the rest maybe,
I actually like Matthes about as much as Wheeler of the Rockies OF’ers.
Troy Tulowitzki is a good player
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I know
It was the first thing that came to my mind and probably do agree on that
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where's RIRF when you need him?
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wow, trevor cahill is only 23?
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Jaymee Sire CSN:
Sabean said they are still open minded regarding Cody Ross. Ross just told me via text message “Giants are my number one choice.”
I have mixed feelings about this. Given that Cody Ross wants a three year deal and that it’s not Carlos Beltran? Awesome! Given that it is Cody Effin Ross? That’s not so good.
Great take
How do you feel about Ross?
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I really don't know how to get to a point where I can objectively answer that.
He’s just another one of those players that just does so much better against the Rockies than his career would indicate that he should, that I lose neutrality. For what it’s worth, he does even better against the Padres and D-Backs, so if the Giants want a historic NL West killer, I don’t know if there’s a better option out there.
Did the meetings end? Everyone quit talking
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It's dinner time at the meetings.
Now, when the bourbon and beer starts flowing at the bar tonight, that is when it gets interesting. We should get a lot of “GM so and so went to GM so and so’s room, hooking up.” tweets. It’s like a sick orgy or something.
Once the hooch and cigars start getting consumed
Money flies around and papers are signed.
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David O'Brien, Braves:
Both, really. RT @bgarrett7: @ajcbraves What’s likelihood of Prado being traded? Is it “if pieces fit” scenario, or “best offer get hims”?
There are better options than Polanco, I think
If we’re looking to spend $5m plus on an infielder (I’m guessing that’s what PP makes … don’t shoot me) I think we can do much better. I’ve liked him a long time, and in some ways he’s the kind of player I think we need, but he has the look of a guy nearing a cliff edge, or perhaps on his way over already. I don’t think his 650 OPS last year was a fluke. It might be a tiny bit low due to BABIP, but not much. I remember a guy who couldn’t catch up to a fastball anymore and did an awful lot of popping up and hitting lazy ground balls. Frankly, I’m not sure even how much an improvement he’d be offensively over a Stewart/Pacheco platoon. He’d be better defensively, but I don’t think that should be our focus right now.
I hope we’re casting our nets much wider. When you consider whether trading someone will help or not, you have to think about opportunity cost too. What other player’s potential playing time, and salary space, would he be taking? I’d go with Lowrie before him (if we can get him), and of course Prado. Kelly Johnson. I think there might be others, too.
by BostonTransplant on Dec 5, 2011 7:27 PM MST up reply actions
A bit to address here,
First of all, the amount of FB’s he’s seen the last three seasons has steadily decreased, from a high of 68.1% in 2008 down to 62.5 % last season, which tells me advance scouts aren’t seeing the same thing as you. That said, his value against these pitches was at a low last year, I attribute that to BABIP because his GB and infield fly rates were in fact lower than his career normals. That could mean more cans of corn to the OF, but BABIP is still the likeliest suspect to me.
This next is a general statement to Purple Row posters and not you specifically, but I do think that many here are missing opportunities to pick up players, particularly quality older players, that have something left in the tank. I’ve seen it with Polanco, Millwood, Kuroda and Rolen to name four that the age of a player is considered a higher risk factor than even worse performance by a younger player. Compare the so called down seasons of Polanco and Rolen last season to that of Ian Stewart, or even to Stewart’s best season, and you see that there’s really a chance here to get some positive value from third base next year if people can get over this age bias.
Prado’s better and the one I’d rather have if the Braves price went down, but Polanco might be the better value. Johnson’s overrated, and Lowrie’s injury history is worse than Polanco’s over the last five years, but his performance not quite as good. I think he’s actually more risky, but I actually really like the idea of pairing him with Polanco.
Before we get too excited about Polanco, Philly first has to reel in Aramis Ramirez.
I don’t mind the idea of Polanco, I just don’t really want to give anything up for him. Due $12 million for 2 more seasons I think Philly would be happy to rid themselves of his contract.
1M buyout for 2013 really assuages my fears of a collapse
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Reading between the lines, Philly seems to think that Aramis Ramirez is a pretty likely get
Maybe there’s an agreement in principal in place, and they’re just looking for a landing spot for Polanco before finalizing it. That kind of money really isn’t that bad for what he’s worth.
Of course they are
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I think he’ll improve next year and stuff, but they really screwed up by signing Werth.
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no one took my $20 bet :(
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Could it have been anyone else at this point?
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Yes?
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I might have been tempted
had I not known him already and if there was a very strong possibility of never meeting or seeing him, but alas none of this is true.
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It was too obvious, alas...
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 7:12 PM MST up reply actions
part of me was hoping it was us
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There is a 1st for everything
And thankfully, it wasn’t us giving Wilson that crazy contract he will get.
I figured that I say enough things and contradict myself often enough
that there had to be something on the record.
Lorrrrrdy.
There are some weird-ass teams in the NL East, huh? World would be a better place without some of them …
If that’s true, that’s just idiotic. And I think CJ is a fine pitcher.
by BostonTransplant on Dec 5, 2011 7:21 PM MST up reply actions
dammit, Muzia called it.
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 5, 2011 8:19 PM MST up reply actions
I should've bet him too.
haha.
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 5, 2011 8:26 PM MST up reply actions
TrippingOlney
NATIONALS PREPARED TO GO TO A SEVENTH, EIGHTH, AND NINTH YEAR ON CJ WILSON DESPITE NO COMPETITION BECAUSE THEY F*****G CAN.
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sounds like a werth joke.
lol
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 5, 2011 8:19 PM MST up reply actions
I came across a kind of depressing stat
Esmil Rogers career IP: 159. (2 seasons, plus a start)
Byung-Hyun Kim, 2006 Rockies IP: 155
Byung-Hyun Kim, 2005 Rockies IP: 148
Franklin Morales, IP in Rox career: 147.2 (5 seasons)
I’ll touch on this more tomorrow, but we didn’t see him pitch nearly as much as it felt like.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 7:38 PM MST reply actions
I kept on saying this...
Aberle kept on advocating for moving him back to the rotation so that we could.
After a time, I actually felt Rockies fans didn’t really deserve to see him succeed, so many gave up on him too soon and was actually happy he could get a second chance. I hope something similar doesn’t happen to Rogers, who’s close to being in the same boat right now.
I never got the quick hook on the rotation either
I mean, he had 15 MLB starts in his career, and EIGHT of them were in 2007. Less than half his MLB starts were by design. It’s strange for such a high prospect. 2009 was tough, since that was the year we had 5 pitchers pitch well, and healthy, all year. 2010 had a nice stable of Ubaldo/Cook/Chacin/Francis/DLR/Hammel. But still…
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 8:00 PM MST up reply actions
When Francis wasn't ready to answer the bell out of Spring Training in 2010
it was the perfect opportunity to move Morales back to a starting role. Unfortunately, Street wasn’t ready to go either. So the Rockies plug Morales into the closer role and give us Greg Smith, who had (lord only knows how) put up good numbers in Spring Training. Hard to imagine how different the staff might look today if they had gone the other direction with Morales.
I know it seems like 20/20 hindsight, but I just never, ever saw Morales as a late-inning reliever. As a starter, I would have been inclined to hang onto him much longer.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 5, 2011 9:18 PM MST up reply actions
or Paulino 2011
but that’s a different same story
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Hey, let's put both our experiments in the pen at the same time!
And then wonder why the other 5 guys are worn down.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 5, 2011 9:42 PM MST up reply actions
That would have been a good time
But it wasn’t exactly that clear. Francis was seemingly fine in ST. He pitched well in a ST game April 1, went on the DL April 3, and Opening Day was April 5. By that time, Morales was locked into reliever role/stamnia.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 9:26 PM MST up reply actions
I really think the whole stretching out thing for starters vs. relievers
is overblown. Sure you have to stretch a guy out, but it doesn’t take a calendar year. Paulino went over to the Royals, made a couple of pitch-count-restricted outings, and then slid right into their rotation. His arm didn’t fall off.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 5, 2011 9:38 PM MST up reply actions
Of course not
but from Francis being DL’d to OD was two days
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 9:48 PM MST up reply actions
So give Morales a few restricted starts
Those still would have been easier on the bullpen than Greg Smith’s cameo appearances. But like I said, Smith had somehow ham-and-egged his way to good numbers in spring training, so I guess I can’t fault the Rockies for not knowing how absolutely horrible he would be when the games started to count.
The decisions the Rockies made in 2010 were entirely defensible. I just wish they would have gone the other way, and thought so at the time.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 6, 2011 6:28 AM MST up reply actions
I always thought the clear cut issue with Morales as a starter was that he couldn't get through the lineup multiple times
And the coaching staff loved the mentality Morales brought out of the bullpen. That run he had when initially filled in for Street convinced a lot of people that he was worth a long took at closer. I feel like Morales was already ruined by the end of 2009.
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Well
it was kind of hard to tell with only 8 starts coming after 2007 (his welcome to the big leagues party).
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r j anderson
Per http://MLB.com, the Rays would want Wil Myers, Christian Colon, and Joakim Soria for James Shields
Yeah, what have I been saying all along about Tampa pitchers?
shields is way too cool to end up in KC
i really hope that doesn’t happen
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that's actually less than I thought the asking price would be...
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That's better than what the Rockies got for Matt Holliday
Myers and Soria are about equivalent to Street/Gonzalez, but adding Colon to that would have been like adding Pennington at the time.
oh, absolutely
but I was expecting the Rays to ask for the moon. This is steep, but not completely unreasonable after the season Shields had
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It's Danksian
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 8:17 PM MST up reply actions
Jim Bowden:
Mike Rizzo just told me the Nats did not go to 6 years on CJ Wilson
Somebody isn’t telling the truth, I’d probably trust the GM in this case.
more from Nats beat writer Adam Kilgore
Three Nats sources with knowledge say they have not offered C.J. Wilson a six-year deal. I don’t think there’s much interest at all.
Now I’m really wishing that I had taken Muzia up on that bet.
Amanda Comak
For what it’s worth, prevailing sentiment I’ve gotten is that the reported 6 year offer from #nats to CJ Wilson is not true. Stay tuned.
Jim Duquette might be out of a job soon, if he gets much more wrong like this.
I think I may have tracked his source
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 8:04 PM MST up reply actions
ALL THESE DAMN REPORTERS ARE DAM LYRES GRUMBLE THEY JUST MAKE ISH UP
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 8:13 PM MST up reply actions
Here comes the Figgins reports...
From article:
there were indications the club is attempting to deal the veteran and has talked to Colorado about their interest in dealing outfielder Seth Smith as the Winter Meetings opened in Dallas.
fffFFFFFFFFFffFF
I called this one as inevitable, too :-(
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Stop predicting things already
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34 years old next season...
There’s opportunity with Figgins to get a rebound, but it strikes me as the kind of opportunity that should be close to zero cost. Smith is too much.
Nick Schnaitmann is too much
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Actually, that's about the cost I was thinking.
We gave up Wes Musick and Jonathan Aristil for Matt Lindstrom, it would have to be something similar to that, with Seattle eating a healthy chunk of money.
I agree.
I could see Figgins bouncing back at Coors. But it should come (almost) completely free… And I also don’t think the FO should/would enter the season EXPECTING Figgins to bounce back.
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 5, 2011 8:28 PM MST up reply actions
at this point, EY2 is a better Figgins than Figgins
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Get him out of Seattle
and into a better hitter’s environment. Maybe get a little better BABIP luck. Plug him in at second base and we’re good to go.
I mean, it’s bound to work one of these years, right?
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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We had Wiggy
I don’t want Figgy
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JFK
especially after his last couple years
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JFK
no, no, no. NO. NO. NO. NO! NO!! NO!!!! NO!!!!!!!
Don’t you do it, Dan.
Don’t you dare do it.
Don’t you dare trade for another scrub from the Mariners.
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
/it is a new beginning, right?
by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 5, 2011 8:43 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, this is a big issue as far as fans would be concerned
Even if it was a good idea, which is a dubious prospect to begin with, there’s going to be a high level of mistrust thanks to the Jose Lopez experience.I’m trying to get past that to look at it objectively, but it would almost certainly be a bad public relations move.
“O’Dowd reverses most regretted trade…”
Sweet! We’re getting back Matt Hollid—
/acquire Chone Figgins
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by Muzia on Dec 5, 2011 8:52 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Sometimes I wonder
what if we had intentionally offered Matt Holliday a respectable extension that we knew he would decline, to then trade him to get prospects, and then just sign him when he hit FA?
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A Cargo/Dex/Holliday OF
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Terry Francona hired by ESPN for Baseball Tonight
They already have Nomar Garciaparra and Curt Schilling.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 8:30 PM MST reply actions
I think
they just said on the football game that he’s doing Sunday Night Baseball broadcasts too.
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JFK
Cool
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 8:38 PM MST up reply actions
Well at least they've stopped pretending now.
BSPN
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Finally!
ESPN will give some attention to the AL East. I have been starving for more info on that division.
by Northsider1964 on Dec 5, 2011 9:07 PM MST up reply actions
I don't know how they lasted this long with no attention.
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Are there any good teams in that division?
I mean, with all the AL Central chatter everywhere, I’ve kind of lost track of who is in the east…
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Dec 5, 2011 10:00 PM MST up reply actions
ESPN
hires every ex college coach as supposedly they will all be good at what they do…ESPN thinks that every ex coach makes a great analyst or announcer and it pisses me off
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 8:38 AM MST up reply actions
Kevin Goldstein:
They’ve always had money. RT @cubs1611: @Kevin_Goldstein Do u think Pujols will go to #marlins ? Where the money comes from?
Earlier today I pointed out where a huge chunk of the Marlins money to spend comes from, it’s pretty easy to look up their last brutal lease with Huizenga at Dolphins stadium compared to the sweetheart deal they now enjoy. Goldstein just pretends otherwise to fit some other world view. I do agree that they had more money than they willingly spent in the past, but this is lazy to suggest that there isn’t a drastic material change that has occurred with a move to the new stadium for Miami.
That caught my eye too
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 9:38 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, I wouldn't have otherwise brought it up, but since you asked my opinion about him the other day,
it struck me as an example of what I’m talking about, where he goes a little too off the cuff like a radio talk show host without actually taking time to analyze something.
O/T: I really don't want to travel through freaking Siberia to go to work tomorrow morning
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
/it is a new beginning, right?
by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 5, 2011 9:36 PM MST via mobile reply actions
You coming to Wyoming?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 9:37 PM MST up reply actions
North Dakota isn't that bad is it?
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JFK
Best news I've heard all day.
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 5, 2011 9:49 PM MST up reply actions
Sure, now Ian Stewart is going to take Tulo and Giambi down with him :)
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What is he going to train on
Thumb dexterity?
Have him train with PinchHitLancePainter instead. I hear he has been saving some unslopped hogs.
why would a member of the Cubs/Dbacks/Padres train with Tulo?
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Renck tweets
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Report from Fla. said Hanley Ramirez "distraught’’ over position switch. The idea he would take this well seemed preposterous
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Yeah but are you shocked?
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Is it there?
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JFK
As if he won't stand out among the best third basemen in the league either.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 10:09 PM MST up reply actions
He's not Alex Rodriguez
Although he should have been at SS and the other guy moved to third
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JFK
Considering what third base across the MLB has come to...
… he doesn’t have to be Alex Rodriguez.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 10:13 PM MST up reply actions
I agree
What I’m getting at is I don’t remember Rodriguez throwing a fit about moving to third when it should have been obvious that he should be the one at short.
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JFK
Aha. Gotcha.
I somehow totally missed that connection.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 5, 2011 10:25 PM MST up reply actions
I don't give a damn.
You’re getting paid the same amount of money.
is it that big of a deal?
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 5, 2011 10:16 PM MST up reply actions
I obviously have a problem with players putting themselves over the team.
I can’t stand it.
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 5, 2011 10:17 PM MST up reply actions
It's a selfish act.
Yes, I do expect the guys we watch on TV to be men, guys that kids idol whilst growing up. Hanley is one of those players in the Dominican that kids emulate.
He needs to grow up and accept it, because it’s better for the TEAM.
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 5, 2011 10:23 PM MST up reply actions
I hope this is one of those things where Hanley is pissed off when he first heard of it, and then cools off afterwards.
I could see that happening. I hope it does..
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 5, 2011 10:27 PM MST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure my point is crystal clear.
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 5, 2011 10:33 PM MST up reply actions
You point is
that you know exactly how another person who you have never met should react to a different person taking their job.
is that you point?
My whole point is that Hanley should be mature and selfless about this.
I hope it doesn’t turn into something it shouldn’t. Could really divide the team.
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 5, 2011 10:40 PM MST up reply actions
Because obviously, throwing a tantrum about this is really going to help the team.
Really.
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 5, 2011 10:43 PM MST up reply actions
/throws popcorn
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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Your confusing
the definition of a team from the fans prospective and the prospective of a player. Passion vs. employer.
I don't think "mature" and "selfless"
are any of the 5 tools that scouts talk about, so if he happens to be those things, it’s a bonus for Florida…
But he probably isn’t…
Do you think Tulo would be okay with moving to third base?
To me it's hard to forget Hanley's past history.
If this were any other player without the baggage, I would completely understand not being happy. In fact, I don’t even blame Hanley for not being happy—I totally get why it sucks for him. But it’s really hard to separate this particular instance from the fact that Hanley hasn’t exactly been the paragon of maturity.
However, I would think giving him a chance to get used to this and see how he actually behaves (so far everything is coming from other sources) come the season would be a good idea.
A voice of reason
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JFK
You're absolutely right
I was being a bit of a devil’s advocate in trying to illustrate how hard it would be to be a top flight player in MLB and to be usurped at your defensive position.
It is definitely difficult to separate Hanley’s past issues with this one.
Yes, it can be
If your doing something you love and are asked to stop doing it for the same pay you would be annoyed too. The thing is that a move to third doesn’t change what he’s doing, just where he’s doing it from.
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JFK
Thing to consider is both are Dominican
There is a HUGE amount of pride in any athlete getting noticed as a shortstop and sticking there. It has some sort of extra connotation, like a 100mph fastball. Rising to the top and being THE guy is a big deal. Sure…he still bats and fields grounders, but he’s no longer THE guy for the first time in his life.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 10:21 PM MST up reply actions
I hadn't thought of this aspect
I know it’s a huge deal to be the best at a position (Pedro and Ortiz) but this is a big part of it.
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JFK
Hey man! I just report the tweets I don't write them!
:D
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Tweet of the day
“Hasn’t been ruled out as opening day starter as far as I know RT @sipawitz: @TroyRenck will tebow throw out the opening day pitch?”
Well, he'll probably miss homeplate anyway
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That's for sure.LOL
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Renck is almost on the same page...
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In fairness to Tebow, he’d make a heck of a better closer than starter. Just sayin…
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by Junction Rox on Dec 5, 2011 10:57 PM MST up reply actions
He could always run it up to the plate
then spike it
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 10:34 PM MST up reply actions
I love that it is Dec. 5th at 10:30 p.m. MST
and Purple Row has 909 comments and is still going…
…and the Rockies really haven’t don’t that much today.
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And a good portion of those are actually about.....baseball
/gasp
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This was my reaction
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JFK
According to Morosi
jonmorosi Jon Morosi
Sources: #Orioles and #Rockies still discussing a Huston Street trade.
Also from Renck:
Rox asked for John Hellweg in Iannetta talks RT @bucky104: If Angels are interested in Stewart, do you think Amarista would make sense?
I don’t know anything about Hellweg.
It could be fun to call him "The Angry Hellweg"
(yes I know it’s Hedwig and The Angry Inch)
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think matzek
tons of Ks, tons of BBs
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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Except he's 6'9", right handed
upper 90’s fastball
No other prospect in the Angels’ system has raised his profile more than Hellweg, who’s now attracting national attention and will surely crack most every Angels’ top ten prospects rankings.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 5, 2011 10:48 PM MST up reply actions
he's also like 23 in A ball
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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Getting to the end of this with no action was pretty
anticlimactic.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 5, 2011 10:45 PM MST up reply actions
and with 8 of those transactions, no one saw them coming.
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1000
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--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
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Well, I suppose if we can't have the one member of the Rangers' old DVD trio of prospects,
we could slide to another. Just as long as we don’t start targeting Thomas Diamond.
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