Tuesday Rockpile: Latest Rumor - Edinson Volquez for Huston Street
by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 6, 2011 7:46 AM MST
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PrintThe merry go round spinner of the hot stove has stopped on a somewhat new name. Edinson Volquez has been discussed around these parts before (but really, who hasn't), but it has been awhile.
Now, according to Troy Renck, the Rockies and Reds are discussing a Huston Street for Edinson Volquez swap. On the surface, it makes tons of sense. The Rockies want an innings eating cost controlled pitcher. Volquez will make about $2 million in arbitration and is under team control through 2013, and he threw 196 innings in his lone fully healthy season. Meanwhile, the Reds get the closer they were looking for. The Rockies get out from under the $8million owed Street.
Volquez mid-90's heat and strikeout stuff, and he has been described as a "low cost Gio Gonzalez alternative," an assertion that the numbers certainly support. If this deal were to go through, SABR writers would have no choice but to heap praise on the Rockies. They could then take that money saved and absorb Placido Polanco's contract. But first, the Phillies would have to sign Aramis Ramirez. Ah, hot stove season.
Of course, there are complications here. The Reds don't want to just add $6million to the payroll in that exchange. If the Rockies don't eat some of the contract, which would go against the essence of the deal, the Reds want an A-ball or AA pitcher. There are a lot of names on those rosters that would make Dan O'Dowd balk.
Then there's the question of Volquez' quality. He started the 2008 All-Star Game, but has been a mess since. His career walk rate is near five, and he had problems with the long ball last year. His stuff hasn't matched his results, leaving many to wonder what's wrong with Edinson Volquez?
It should be noted that Volquez had Tommy John surgery in late 2009. The surgery leads to a year recover time, and sometimes an extra year to regain control. His velocity and stuff has returned, but his mediocre location still has not. That two year period ended with the 2011 season, so his time to rebound could conceivably be 2012. The upside in the rotation could be huge, and the downside in the bullpen will be mitigated by the depth already in place, or from a cheap free agent.
If O'Dowd can get the Reds to bite on a minor league pitcher without huge prospect power - say Dan Houston or even Parker Frazier - I do this deal.
Other Names to Watch
LaTroy Hawkins - Rockies have met with him, but need to free up payroll space. A Street deal would accomplish this, with O'Dowd pulling the same tactic as the Iannetta trade. Deal a piece for a cheap starting pitcher, then sign a veteran to fill the new hole created.
Ian Stewart - The Cubs and Diamondbacks interest appears to have cooled, and the Rockies will wait it out. They are not acting as if Stewart must be dealt this offseason, which I agree with completely.
Martin Prado - The Rockies touched base with the Braves yesterday to reassert their interest, but nothing is imminent. If the Phillies sign Aramis Ramirez, Placido Polanco will become available, hurting Atlanta's market for Prado.
Rockies Links
Renck: Rockies finding lots of teams interested in outfielder Seth Smith - The Denver Post Smith's value has been tough to gauge. Some argue straight for his rate stats, indicating he's an underused cheap slugger. Others are positive he's a platoon player only. There's a big difference between the two, so the Rockies hope at least one club is convinced of the former. Smith came up in a Volquez deal. Also, yet another update on Juan Nicasio that will knock your doors off.
Bob Apodaca, Rick Peterson won’t be joining Bobby Valentine in Boston | HardballTalk Apodaca was Valentine's pitching coach with the Mets. This possibility had not been brought up before, but that's because it had no legs anyway. Dac is staying.
Marichal plans to talk with former Rockie Ubaldo | On the Rox — Colorado Rockies news — Denver Post I would imagine that would be the most surreal conversation ever. The only pitcher from your country in the Hall of Fame coming up to you and saying, "Yo....so what the hell was wrong with you last year? You had to be hurt, because you flat stunk."
Orioles and Rockies Discussing Trade For Huston Street | FanGraphs Baseball Jim Breen reacts to a late night tweet from Jon Paul Morosi. No return has been publicized, but the more teams linked to Street, the better.
NL West Updates
It hasn't been a particularly encouraging offseason for our contending-level division rivals as of yet.
- Dodgers - inexplicably signed Adam Kennedy, Jerry Hairston Jr., Aaron Harang and Mark Ellis to two year contracts. Those four alone will make around $22million in 2013. Such deals guarantee Hiroki Kuroda's exit.
- Diamondbacks - have yet to make an impact move. They are hot on the tail of Kuroda, but Jon Heyman heard it's a longshot. We will also find out if Lyle Overbay accepted Arizona's one-year offer this morning. If he accepts, the Diamondbacks' lukewarm interest in Ian Stewart will be quashed.
- Giants - Fans of the former reigning World Series champs were told the Giants could not afford an impact hitter, as they were focused on extending their core pitching. Yet Tim Lincecum wants an 8-year extension, with San Francisco offering four, a vast expanse to negotiate from. Instead, they are looking at the Ryan Ludwicks and Mark DeRosas of the world with that hypthetical money tied up.
- Padres - looking at Andrew Bailey to replace Heath Bell, but with the Red Sox involved now, negotiations could be tough. Bell wanted to return to San Diego, but the Padres never made an offer. With San Diego out of the contention window, their winter meeting moves are unlikely to shape the divisional title picture.
This Date in Rockies History
2007: Jose Capellan (Giants) and Steven Register (Mets) were selected from the organization in the Rule 5 draft.
2005: Signed RHP Bret Prinz
2004: Terminated the contract of LHP Denny Neagle via Section 7(b)(1) of the Uniform Player Contract.
1995: Signed SS Walt Weiss
1993: Signed 1B Andres Galarraga
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I would love it if we traded Street for Volquez, not because I think Volquez is a sure thing but because he’s got potential and it’d be ballsy as hell.
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the Street for Volquez, then Polanco dominoes? Yea, I’d be cool with that.
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Those would be 2 solid moves that would help the team immediately
I’ve always been a fan of Volquez and Polanco would add a veteran pressence at a position of weakness. And the best part…I will get to cut back on my pepto bismol consumption with Street gone!
is it summer yet?
can we then flip volquez for josh hamilton?
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Official comment in re: Edinson Volquez.
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by Franchise26 on Dec 6, 2011 7:57 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
It is also worth noting that
Volquez spent a lot of July and August in the minors where he sported a 2.99 bb/9. Then during September he sported a 3.8 bb/9 (of course this was accompanied with a drop in k-rate). Leaves me cautiously optimistic that Volquez could show some gains in his control and be a crappier Ubaldo
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This would be solid moves on DoD's resume.
I think we could potentially have a large move on the horizon today, though more than likely this will take a week or so to develop.
I agree with this,
most of the statements I’ve read from GM’s seem to suggest that a lot of what’s getting talked about isn’t yet that close to materializing. Everybody wants time to unturn all the possible stones available to them before taking any action.
It seems a lot of sports writers actually aren't looking too closely at the Marlins favorable lease as a reaso for their money.
Buster Olney:
If Marlins refuse to offer Pujols a no-trade clause, this will be clear sign they understand whole thing might not work.
The Marlins have a well established and well known policy of not offering any sort of no-trade clause. I don’t know why exactly continuing with that policy would be considered anything other than keeping their modus operandi going.
can't blow up the team if people have NTCs
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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A few thoughts
If the Marlins land Pujols is Gaby Sanchez someone we chase?
Would getting the WhiteSox and Carlos Quentin in to the Prado trade be something we should do?
Gordon Beckham has had two down years is he worth trying to get?
Is Hammel done as a starter?
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I don't think Hammel is done, personally.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 6, 2011 8:19 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Considering the massive influx of pitching
I do see him at risk of losing his rotation spot. I wouldn’t be shocked to see him in the pen on opening day, or with another team.
Best case scenario has to be Hammel
Having one of his nearly scoreless months in April then being good Hammel through June, at which point DLR is fully back and the Kids are starting to push for playing time If hammel had say a 3-3.5 ERA near the deadline we could get a really decent return on him.
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May 2012 be the complete opposite of /2011.
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Beckham ...
… would be a good risk if you can buy low:
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=15614
Man the way the Dom Brown situation has played out makes me really
glad that Tracy liked Cargo in 09 or else we would likely have the same situation.
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You can't, as far as the last I heard..,
the White Sox still value him pretty highly and are looking him as a starter for 2012.
Hammel concerns me
He started the season really strong last year but he always seemed to be a tough luck loser. I got the feeling that the frustration of all those quality starts that turned into L’s eventually got to him and his feet just fell out from under him as he unraveled. I think it’s a psychological thing with him at this point so hopefully he can come back next season refreshed, but he’s a back end rotation kind of starter so if he’s not pitching at his best he’s not going to be of much value. I’ve always supported him as a back end rotation guy for the Rockies so I am not trying to knock him here but I do I have some concerns that his best days as a Rockie are behind him.
I'm hoping that his struggles in July and August were a result of his wife being at the end of her pregnancy
as soon as their kid was born he started pitching really well again. small sample size though
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Thumbs up ...
on Street for Volquez. This is the type of move that makes sense … a high-upside pitcher who could realistically slot anywhere from 1-5 in the rotation. Risk … yes, and aplenty … but fortune favors the bold!
I'm okay with this
as a fallback, I’m okay with Street to the O’s,depending on the arms coming back.
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That’s fine. I saw your straight news stuff, but I’d like your take.
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Besides,
if you are to write about markets that you don’t really know, I’d be disappointed. The amount of folks blogging about how the FL teams got hosed are uninformed about those markets.
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the Florida teams made out like bandits
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that whole seven teams in each East Coast conference
with four playoff spots vs. eight and four in the Western two seems like maybe ESPN had an advisory role on this thing.
it's hedging their bets in case Phoenix moves next year
it makes for a more fluid restructuring next time.
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What? They only had 2 teams leave so far...
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I would be ok with this.
It’s a hell of a lot better than Pavano or Pelfrey. but, at the same time, I put Volquez in the same category as pretty much all our other pitchers save Chacin, in that they can give you something but you don’t know what yet. He is still not that 200 inning, rotation stabilization we have talked about.
rotation stabilization? nope. Innings eater though? He did throw 196 innings last year.
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Yes he did
But we are looking for major league innings, not rehabbing minor league innings. Point is, he has only had one good, healthy season, where he threw 196 innings. And while it was a good season, he still walked 4.27/9. It’s difficult to predict what you will get going forward.
Very much like how difficult it is to predict from DLR going forward.
I’m not really going to get into where he spent his innings. If he’s worth having in the rotation at all, he should be good for 180-200 innings.
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Dusty Baker done broke Volquez
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 9:23 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
I don't know if it would make sense for them
but I wonder if the Reds would have any interest in taking Hammel along with Street. We’d have to eat some cash but earlier this offseason the Reds had wanted (and presumably still want) starting pitching…
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the Reds have plenty of mid-level starters
they are looking for a #1 or #2 on top of their rotation.
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Nice, the draft has gone down to 40 rounds.
That’s probably a good number, anything after 42 is usually total junk, and a couple other picks are close enough that they could get cut out as well.
This is a good change
Cleans up the backside side of the draft a little.
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ATF really didn't say in his article, so I ask:
Besides pitching depth, why do we want Volquez? He’s not better than most of our MLB arms except Rogers. I’m confused.
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I think this comes down to success in the MLB level
I think that when you include his resume of MLB progress (including starting the 2008 All Star game) he has a higher ceiling if all goes well in his recovery than many of our MLB arms. He was nigh un-hittable in the first half that year.
I don't know.
He’s 27 and he’s only pitched over 100 innings in the MLB in two seasons.
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He is going to have a better '12 than Hammel.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 8:53 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
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Kevin Slowey has better numbers than Volquez.
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Slowey Career SO/BB: 4.7
Volquez: 1.79
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No.
He beats him in just about all the other ones too. That’s just the most indicative of the differences between them. Slowey throws strikes.
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I post. You decide.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/sloweke01.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/volqued01.shtml
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And, quite frankly, I'm open to being convinced that Volquez would be a good get.
I just don’t see it. That’s why I ask. If Slowey is pretty much depth, and his numbers are better than Volquez, then what is Volquez?
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Volquez is upside, Slowey is a floor.
Note the two pitchers’ 2008 seasons, their peak years so far. Volquez has the potential to be a solid #2 in a rotation, while Slowey’s ceiling is considerably lower. I like adding both types, as long as the cost is right.
btw, I saw your tweet about the PTBNL,
I don’t know if you’ve seen Renck’s Tweet that the PTBNL will be named after the Rule 5, but that implies the PTBNL is currently exposed to that draft. It’s not going to be a top prospect.
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I guess I’m not seeing his potential as a pitcher turning 28 who hasn’t put up decent numbers for the past three seasons. You can say he has potential, but I’d like evidence of that. There are occasionally guys like Wandy Rodriguez who develop pretty late and don’t show what they’re made of until 28, but I think that those types of players are in the minority.
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TJ surgery
not to mention suspensions from the league. Volquez may be 28, but his development has been interrupted multiple times. Numbers don’t tell the whole story here
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Would you trade Street for that?
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He still has upside, sure
and he’s going to be cheap for a couple of years. It’d be a solid move.
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How about this...
How does Volquez differ from Jose Lopez?
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 6, 2011 10:15 AM MST up reply actions
They'll hit about the same in Coors...
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 6, 2011 10:16 AM MST up reply actions
one’s a pitcher who has strong peripherals outside of bb rate one full season removed from major arm surgery.
The other one is a hitter who sucks
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Strong peripherals outside of BB rate is a little bit of an exaggeration. He doesn’t throw strikes. He has SOME strong peripherals, but implying that everything outside of BB rate is strong is disingenuous.
Jose Lopez’ BABIP was very strong except for 2010. We went for him. I was a supporter of that move, because I think that it was worth a shot.
I’m not seeing how Volquez isn’t a reclamation project in the same vein as Lopez. A guy with a ton of potential, who demonstrated that potential at some point, but has not kept up with it. The injury is the main difference between the two. But this would seem to work against Volquez because there might be a physical reason that he cannot control that is stopping him form returning to form.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 6, 2011 10:28 AM MST up reply actions
Strong strikeout rate, strong groundball rate, his velocity has returned, he was strong enough to throw 196 innings last year. As far as I’m concerned with Volquez everything else outside of his horrendous walk rate looks pretty damn good.
I don’t think he’ll be an awesome control pitcher next season but I wouldn’t be surprised if he experienced a solid gain in control based off of his distance from TJ surgery, his respectable walk rate in the minors last season, and his decent walk rate in September. The scattered clues suggesting a gain in control, for me at least, make him totally worth it for me.
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He threw 108 innings last year...
with an ERA not far from 6. Please revise your thought.
He’s including the Louisville stint.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 6, 2011 10:39 AM MST up reply actions
Go go ...
You have a strong opinion here … that’s fine. Just try to consider the other side before firing off … or don’t.
Of course this conversation fails to include
what happens when we teach him a cutter.
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he’ll add a leg kick to his delivery
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I hear he has a new offseason training regimen. I’m sure he’ll be in the best shape of his life.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 6, 2011 10:46 AM MST up reply actions
I really wouldn't compare him to Lopez also
they’re completely different players, and the financial reasons, as well as the roster reasons behind acquiring them both were very different.
I think it’s a cheap trick to say ‘we took on Lopez as a reclamation project and look how that ended up, and now we’re doing the same with Volquez’
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I wouldn't say cheap trick.
Nor do I think it’s fair. I’m not calling you out for using his September BB rate above even though it is based on one good game out of four with one horrible game (4 BBs in 5 IP) and another mediocre game.
I think you can do better than that. If you disagree with me, that’s fine, but I still see both as reclamation projects. Different, of course. But I think the chances of Volquez pitching well at Coors in 2012 are 50/50 at best.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 6, 2011 10:42 AM MST up reply actions
maybe cheap trick isn’t the best term, I’m in class and somewhat distracted. But comparing the two sweeps everything under the rug.
I’m not too comfortable using his sept. data, but it’s really all of the data we have.
There’s also other things to consider. I’m not too high on Volquez in 2012, but much more so in 2013. I think another season of rebuilding himself post TJ surgery plus working under Apodaca, plus his cheap cost, plus we’d be getting him for Street makes me bullish on acquiring him and optimistic on him being able to avg in 2012 and above avg in 2013.
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I’d rather trade Street for something that will fill one of our holes at the MLB level. I think we have enough of them that we should try to use the value we have now to fill those holes.
That’s my concern. I think Volquez is questionable at best to fill any hole.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 6, 2011 10:51 AM MST up reply actions
im not sure we can do that in a one for one trade. If we were to try to do Street and Smith and a prospect (or whatever) for a more certain fix, I’d be down. But on what’s basically a one for one deal, I’m in love with idea of clearing up 4 mill of payroll and ending up with Volquez.
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His AAA numbers last year were downright great
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Yes.
But he didn’t really convert them to MLB success in September.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 6, 2011 10:54 AM MST up reply actions
the Royals just traded a cheap "CF" for that
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when was Volquez using PEDs?
Was it 2008?
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He’ll strike out hopefully 8.5 per nine with a 50% groundball rate. His walks are a big problem, but in limited time in AAA and then to finish out the season he was walking fewer batters. It’s a big high-risk high-reward chance but I think it’s worth it.
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Two gimpy-armed gopher-ballers...
Only positive for them is that they are on the right side of 30, and each has had one really good year. But not recently.
I suppose if fully fit, either could have a really good year in 2012. But will either be fully healthy?
Smith wouldn't be a PTBNL.
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This was a technicality because he was a recently drafted player.
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I don't know
if “a player to be named” means a PTBNL or a player to be named when the trade is announced.
Oh
and ass him to the crazy huge list of “I guess they will compete for a rotation spot out of spring training” pitchers. God damn, I hope they can add a pitcher we can say will be in the opening day rotation. So far, we still only have Chacin.
Yep.
in that mindset, Slowey is a good acquisition
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ACQUIRE ALL THE PITCHING.
ALL OF IT.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 8:51 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Decent Deal
Nothing to get too excited about but Rockies are in no position to scoff at back end rotation help. Ideally, he allows the Rockies to use Hammel as they see best fit.
Volquez intrigues me
His stuff is good, he eats innings, but he can be absolutely terrible, so much so that he makes Franklin Morales look like a control pitcher. He went through that stretch last season where he gave up at least one run each first inning of the game. I can’t imagine how frustrating it must be to watch your pitcher always start the game by instantaneously putting you a hole.
That all said, I’d be okay with the gamble as we need pitching in the worst way, and he could be a huge upgrade if he returns to his winning form.
When has he eaten innings outside of one season?
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Street is more of a sure thing to help his team...
So I’m not sold on this trade idea.
I'd rather have 150 innings of rotation help
than 50-60 innings of bullpen relief this season, all else being equal
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And it can be real cheap to shore up a pen.
What did we trade for Lindstrom last year, two 20-30 level prospects. If he have the chance to make this trade, it will help.
We could stick Volquez in there and get as much production from him as we would from Street.
Starters without command but electric stuff tend to move to the back of a bullpen anyway. The same is true of Chatwood.
If it's 150 innings of crappy pitching...
it’s no help. Would rather have the more sure thing of 50 to 60 quality innings, and in higher leverage situations.
define "crappy pitching"
if we’re talking 150 innings of sub 4.50 ERA, I would have paid dearly for that last season.
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5 innings per start....
taxing our bullpen. 4.75 or higher ERA. Less than 28 starts, putting pressure on our depth. Those would comprise my definition of “crappy”, and that’s what I’d expect from Volquez, especially at Coors.
Why would he struggle at coors.
Everything about him to me says he fit’s the mold of success at coors.
I’d expect SLowey to struggle a lot more at Coors than Volquez
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and Slowey is a depth guy
he won’t likely be a regular starter unless /2011’d happens again
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lets hope so. I looked at his numbers and not sure I see too much encouraging stuff past the walk rate…
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actually, he made $2.7mil last year. That’s news to me. I really don’t know where he fits at this point…
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:-/
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...yeah....rethinking strategy....
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boom
with Chacin, JDLR, and a crapton of rookie pitchers, he’d justify that salary.
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Could be...
but Slowey is not costing us a Huston Street. That’s the difference.
See Heltonfan's projection on Volquez...
in the Slowey thread. 4.72. We could get that from a Francis signing, for goodness sakes. Why not get more for Street, given the demand for closers these days?
Ad-hominem...
the POINT which you miss is that Francis would cost us nothing, and Volquez costs us a valuable trade chip. I’m not crazy, RG, really I’m not.
Volquez trade also allows us to fill another hole
ala Polanco.
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Well, we could do that anyway...
and STILL get more for Street. Let’s not be so hasty to dump his contract just to make room for PP.
trading Street for a mid level starter
with upside? That sounds like a pretty good deal…
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Except he's not mid level anymore...
though he has upside. He’s barely above Rogers level these days.
Uh, no
Nononononononono.
No.
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honestly, and this is without full clarity on the market for Street, but I get the feeling that Volquez would have the highest upside of any person we could acquire for Street and who is also ready to contribute at the ML level.
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Nolasco
Of all the names mentioned in connection with Street I think Nolasco has the highest upside.
I guess I was referring more to a one for one (or in this case one for one and a lower prospect) trade. NOlasco would take a lot more than Street – or that’s the impression I get…
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My point is that Francis gains us nothing on the top end.
Zero. We just covered the bottom end for nothing with a better pitcher than him. We need to look for pitchers that have the potential to add something to the top of the rotation if they perform to what they’re capable of. Volquez qualifies, Francis most certainly does not. This is why Edinson may be worth Street, but I will absolutely agree that’s not the case if another prospect has to be added as Renck suggests, or if the Rockies have to eat money to move him.
You and others here are way overrating Volquez...
based on one really good season. Look at his HR rate, and his health history. And HF’s projection of 4.72, barely above replacement level. No thanks, not for Street!
I think there’s actually a big difference between being injury prone and TJ surgery. Edinson has been fairly healthy outside of his TJ (I think). He’s also displayed considerable gains in his walk rate (Which is really his only flaw at this point if his elbow is sound) while he was in the minors and as the season wore on.
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HF projections are not gospel, I don't believe.
He’s been at worst a league average pitcher 4 of 5 years, has very good K% and GB%, and won’t cost us much in salary. That’s extremely valuable, and much better than Jeff Francis.
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We could do the Francis signing AND Volquez...
for Street trade. They aren’t mutually exclusive. I’m just saying Street, as a trade chip, is worth more than Volquez.
That's fine, I can see where you'd think that.
I disagree though, starters seem much more difficult to get than closers this winter.
like what, though
there’s a limited number of teams who would trade for Street, and most of those teams are not going to give up an MLB contributor from their team for him.
Volquez is a quality MLB contributor, and it would be buying low on him.
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Stats on Volquez and Francis:
MLB numbers only, so not counting rehab stints:
2010
Volquez: 3.66 xFIP, 3.96 FIP, 4.29 ERC
Francis: 3.54 ERC, 3.61 FIP, 3.98 ERC
2011:
Volquez: 4.06 xFIP, 5.38 FIP, 5.36 ERC
Francis: 4.12 xFIP, 3.87 FIP, 4.51 ERC
I’m certainly open to the Volquez > Francis argument… but it’s purely an upside argument, not a performance argument. And seriously, let’s not understate just how bad Volquez was last year. He’s interesting, sure… but the risk is massive.
And I should point out...
That the reason I’m quoting only MLB numbers there is that I don’t have xFIP for the minors. I know that Volquez pitched well in AAA last year, that’s certainly another point in his favor. But at some point he needs to show that he can find the strike zone consistently in the major leagues.
I bow down to you, HF....
Just kidding, of course. But since I cite your numerical logic over the excitement of fans here about this potential trade, I’m viewed as a “fundamentalist”. Really, if these numbers are not damning for the idea of giving up a valuable trade chip such as Street, what what numbers are?
There is certainly risk here
but recovering from TJ surgery is another point in his favor. As are his K and GB rates.
It’s obviously a risk, but it’s a risk betting on upside. If we were trading Street for Slowey type, I’d be furious. Volquez is a much higher level of potential, and I want to trade for that potential.
If it was a slam dunk trade, the Reds wouldn’t even be discussing it. We are assuming quite a bit of risk here, but Street’s HR/FB rates may not look too sharp in Cincy, either.
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K and GB rates are already accounted for in his projection
So that’s not an extra point in his favor. My projections know about his strengths… those strengths are why he projects as a major-league caliber pitcher as opposed to a AAA guy, like most guys with his walk rate would.
I mostly agree, it's mostly as you say an upside argument with Volquez
but I actually think your projection, and I’m guessing most projections are massively underplaying Francis’ downside as well.
Hmm... what is Francis's downside?
We’re talking about a guy who has been pretty effective for two years now with no velocity. I don’t think it’s likely that the league is all of a sudden going to figure him out, so unless you think he’s going to lose his control all of a sudden, I’m not sure what the downside is… it looks to me like he’s on the Jamie Moyer path.
I want Jeff Francis back for only the most selfish of reasons, mind, but I prefer an upside play more than the no-downside play. Slowey’s a no-downside play. Let’s roll the dice.
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Jamey Moyer's career BABIP
He’s never had a full season (and there are many of them) in a rotation with one lower than .303. Francis’s low BABIP allowed was .270 in 2006, but other than that he’s never had one lower than .305, and he’s striking out fewer hitters. He’s not going to level in the hits allowed department, and he could easily fall back into giving up much much worse. He’s not Moyer, and some team is going to be very disappointed to discover this.
Before I get reamed too much on this too,
I do understand there are park factors involved so Francis isn’t as bad as he might look in his prime, but even adjusting for those, Moyer shows that he has much more control over opponents’ strength of contact.
Projections are not biblical. If they were, we would have enjoyed a nice playoff appearance last season.
I’m not overrating him based on one season. I understand that there’s a strong likelihood he pitches to his projection. What I know, and what seems to not sink into you is that at his best, Volquez is capable of being one of the best pitchers in the game.
So is Jimenez....
yet we gave up on him. And his great year was more recent than Volquez’s. I think Edinson is Pyrite. You are dazzled by his “stuff”, but the fact is his homer rates are awful, command mediocre at best, and Edinson Volquez was no Ubaldo Jimenez, even at his best.
If we could get a Nolasco somehow, he’s a much better bet, and I don’t want to use up Street as a key trade chip (not that the Marlins want him, now that they have Bell).
BTW, HF projections aren’t gospel, I realize. But they are a hell of a lot better than many of the visceral fan reactions I read here all the time.
“giving up on him” suggests we got zero value in return. That is a very deceptive statement.
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I didn't say we dumped him...
we gave up on the idea he could return to 2009 or 2010 form, which is a lot better than “potential” from prospects received.
So, yes, we “gave up on him”.
Volquez ...
Yes … he has stuff. And don’t forget, command is the last thing to retun after TJ. The fact that his stuff has returned bodes well as an upside play.
I'll try settling down, as there's actually much I agree with here.
But there is a lot I don’t. I think you’re assuming too much about the players you bring up. The current state of Ubaldo’s arm and Volquez’s arm, for instance. I absolutely agree that at their best, though, Volquez was no Ubaldo. Saying that, however, does not mean I acknowledge that Volquez’s best could match Ubaldo’s best. And the upside argument I’m making is that this is true with Volquez more than it is with almost any other starter we could acquire this winter.
That said, Nolasco carries so much less risk, but a close enough upside that I too would much rather have him. Right now, though, that avenue isn’t available. I’d rather have Volquez and Polanco right now than miss out on Nolasco or any better pitcher, not to mention Polanco later because the Rockies thought he might become available if stuff broke right in Miami.
I might be overvaluing Volquez, but I’m pretty sure you’re overvaluing Street’s realistic trade returns, much as you did with Iannetta.
Thinking about this some more...
Rox Girl, I think you’re right about Street’s trade value. The Reds are really the only contending team who might be interested in him, and no non-contender is going to give up much for an expensive 1-year rental closer…. we’re not going to get much. And of course, that speaks to how the Reds (and presumably the rest of baseball) value Volquez as well… we’re talking about two pretty marginal commodities here.
It goes back to DOD creativity....
Alone, Street may not be an easy trade chip to use to extract excess value. Together with, say, Iannetta, he could have been enough to land us perhaps Jed Lowrie from Boston. Iannetta, a NE boy, was long coveted by Boston. Street would be useful to them whether or not he closes.
Of course, I know that ship has sailed.
Street/Iannetta would be a massive overpay for Lowrie, imo
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by Junction Rox on Dec 6, 2011 11:05 AM MST up reply actions
Ok, we could have gotten even more then....
I presume DOD would have gotten a prospect added in such a hypothetical trade.
GGR
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something about every pitcher suggests they would fail @ coors
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 9:55 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I am fine with keeping Street
I think, when everyone is pitching at their best, Street is the best closer on our team. And with closers being such a fickle bunch, good today/bad tomorrow, and Street having hit rough patches in his past and coming back from them I would gladly hold on to him.
That said, we need SP and we need cap space for SP. If trading Street gets us that than that’s fine and I’d be okay with a Volzquez gamble, given the upside. I’ll take on that risk for the cost of one season of Street.
If we were closer to contending I would think differently.
Enough talk about it
Get it done and now. Volquez for Street and whatever. Just get it done. Don’t dink about it and finally just settle for something else. Make a ballsy move. I won’t fault him at all for getting this deal done and if it falls flat on his face because at least he tried, instead of hoping magic comes from the arm of kevin millwood or slowey. I have seen slowey enough times to know that he is just meh. This team has signed meh and have acquired meh for the last 3 years and hasn’t gotten us crap.
Plus i am a fan of thomas edison
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I’d rather not trade a possibly valuable piece for a reclamation project with an unknown chance at succeeding.
To me, Volquez is a pitching version of Jose Lopez. He had a great season, but he isn’t good anymore.
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What else are we gonna get for Street though?
Little to no interest has been shown in him as there are other options available for cheaper
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 9:03 AM MST up reply actions
little to no interest?
Toronto, Cincy, Boston, and Baltimore have all made their desire well known at this point
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For what though?
Interest in Street or interest in actually giving up anything of value to get him are different things
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 9:05 AM MST up reply actions
either an MLB starting pitcher or a couple of prospects, apparently
Street has good value, regardless of what half this blog thinks
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The question is how MUCH value
Even with a few teams competing, I don’t see us getting more than a few mid-grade prospects (A maybe AA) or a low tier starter from any of those teams. I like Street too, but after being demoted (and having a less than stellar health record) I don’t see many teams giving much for him.
I say Volquez is a ceiling #2 or a floor #4 barring health (TJ surgery has a fairly decent comeback rate though)
low to mid tier starter is our new Standard Operating Procedure. There’s plenty of value in that, especially if we can get a pitcher with a live arm.
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There is quite a bit of interest after the price for a closer when over $10 million per season. Even if he isn’t a closer anymore, I’d rather keep him then trade him for Volquez.
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But, but, he IS a closer...
We just have Betty who’s better (though older). Street should be able to command better than Volquez.
Maybe
maybe not. His value is really based on the ridiculous closer contracts being given out on the free agent market, not necessarily how he is as a player. And he is still behind Baily on the trade market. Really, getting a starter who has as high of a ceiling as Volquez and costs very little in salary is a good return.
In our favor is that Billy Beane has admitted that he is asking for the moon in regards to Bailey. Street will come at a much more reasonable cost.
Right...
The market is the market. and there’s always a nice free-flowing market for guys like Street. 8th/9th inning guys are just one of those sweet spots in trade value that I pray DOD takes full advantage of.
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The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 9:00 AM MST up reply actions
No more Alan Johnson starts.
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I was completely shut out of 2011.
Took an 0-fer.
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I wonder if the Phillies interest in Ramirez
exists but is less notable than they are making it out to be and they are trying to drum up a scenario where Polanco MIGHT end up on the market as they try to keep their divsion rival from getting a potential haul in return for Prado.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
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The Phillies are playing by their own game this winter, I thought that was obvious...
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You can play both at the same time
If a divsion rival is about to get a nice return on a player (which is certainly possible for the Braves with Prado during the winter meetings) and you can contain the market some by pumping up your own interest on another player, it makes sense to do that.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 6, 2011 9:26 AM MST up reply actions
They need another impact bat in their lineup
the Aramis rumors are real, imo.
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I agree,
There are some tricky politics with letting Rollins go or making him cave in his demands, but I would think they’d much rather have Aramis than J-Roll in that lineup.
One of my friends from Philly is saying the Ramirez talk is more about “tricky politics” and trying to get Rollins to lower his demands.
It's the Phillies
they’ll end up with both, somehow
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#twins talking to willingham as alternative plan to cuddyer. #twins offered cuddyer $25M, 3 yrs but he hasn’t taken.
That seems like a substantial lowball offer for Cuddyer
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I always thought 3/$27 Million
I kept on arguing with people that it would be close to Minnesota’s 2/$16M offer in terms of money/year, just with more years added.
I think Cuddyer ...
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So what's Willingham gonna get?
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Citizen's Bank Park?
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That's exactly what I thought.
Low offer
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 6, 2011 11:47 AM MST up reply actions
Heyman:
#rockies talking to orioles, blue jays, reds, others on huston street
Nothing new there, unless knowing that the Blue Jays are still interested qualifies as new.
Brett Lawrie right?
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 9:56 AM MST up reply actions
or a catching prospect….
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Street and Smith for Lawrie...
and a pitching prospect could work for me. Besides, Street and Smith sounds like a magazine I’d read every year.
Yeah, no chance in hell Toronto trades Lawrie
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hahaha, i was hoping someone picked up on the sarcasm
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 10:24 AM MST up reply actions
I’d make that trade for a Lawry’s gift card.
Man, that prime rib is good.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 6, 2011 10:27 AM MST up reply actions
Would you do Arenado and those two for Lawrie?
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considerin Arenado gets his chance to be the next Lawrie next season…no.
Also, he likes NHL 2k12
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Lol @ the Smith + Street = really good player
trades we’ve been making…
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 6, 2011 11:47 AM MST up reply actions
Roy Halladay, nothing less.
I don’t want that scrub Cliff Lee, and don’t even get me started on Cole Hamels.
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What about Travis Snider?
probably not reasonable but I dont know I like him
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 10:25 AM MST up reply actions
yes
Twas a joke
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 6, 2011 10:03 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
We do that a lot here
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 6, 2011 10:07 AM MST up reply actions
I've noticed
And being knew here and not knowing the patterns of posters it can be hard to distinguish joke from the honest, far out proposal. But I will get there…
…I hope.
;)
and if you forget something, just ask RIRF
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by Muzia on Dec 6, 2011 10:11 AM MST up reply actions 3 recs
Sometimes it's just better to z right past it
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it seems, more than usual, like fans don't recognize that flawed does not equal no value
The rockies are not going to trade for or sign a flawless player. Only the Yankees and Phillies Cardinals and Marlins are capable of that right now. EVERY player the Rockies acquire will have flaws and weaknesses, some of them glaring ones. That doesn’t mean they won’t improve the roster, or that its A bad move, especially at the prices O’Dowd will be paying.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 6, 2011 10:02 AM MST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
My desire to play poker with the members of this board rises every time I read a winter thread… and I don’t even like poker.
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by Franchise26 on Dec 6, 2011 10:04 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Heheh
“What? No Aces? Fold.”
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by Yokel on Dec 6, 2011 10:41 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Gimme all yer sevens!
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
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Quite right.
But untapped potential doesn’t equal high value either. We need to weigh the amount of flaws against the value of what we are giving up for the flawed players. I have nothing against Volquez, but I think we can get better for Street.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 6, 2011 10:17 AM MST up reply actions
weighing flaws is fine
I’ve just seen more “he has this flaw, so he isn’t worth an A ball ptbnl and I don’t want him” posts than anything
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 6, 2011 10:43 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
or his _(SABR STAT) was x9.37 on odd numbered days last year so he wouldn’t really be worth anything to the rockies
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 10:47 AM MST up reply actions
I'm not sure that anyone posted that Volquez isn't worth anything.
But maybe I am missing that. I’ve been writing that he isn’t worth Street, based on the fact that he hasn’t shown an ability to pitch successfully in the MLB for three years and has control issues. I would happily have him in the organization, but I’d like someone who is MLB ready and fills one of our holes for Street. I think we can get that.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 6, 2011 10:50 AM MST up reply actions
I agree with you 100%....
though the TJ surgery is a bit of a mitigating factor in his last three seasons.
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 10:26 AM MST up reply actions
Only now that CDI is gone.
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Street for Volquez
is the best offer I have seen for Street thus far. Much better than Guthurie or Jed Lowrie. I would pull the trigger on that deal.
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Now Volquez is better than Guthrie?
No way. Guthrie has four straight season of over 190 IP in two of which he had a sub-1.25 WHIP.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 6, 2011 10:30 AM MST up reply actions
I have never said a nice thing about Guthrie
I think he is garbage… Volquez has way more upside and is just a better pitcher all together. He has been injury plagued the last couple years besides last and should be due for a nice bounce back year. I would take Volquez over Guthrie in a heart beat
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 6, 2011 10:39 AM MST up reply actions
I was going to ask why you thought Jeremy Guthrie is garbage but then I decided not to waste my time.
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by Franchise26 on Dec 6, 2011 10:42 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
oh idk
just responsible for 17 losses last year, wil lhit 90’s occassionally which will hurt him at Coors, he’s already 32 as a pitcher, and yea it seems like every time I check on the guy on one of his games has has been hit out of teh game by the 4th inning after giving up 7 earned. Maybe it was bad timing but im not too sure. Hopefully i didn’t waste your time.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 6, 2011 10:47 AM MST up reply actions
He wasn’t out of the game by the fourth inning at all last year.
But I’m glad that you’re sticking to your guns on the Winz.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 6, 2011 10:53 AM MST up reply actions
he was on the day
i added him to my fantasy roster for some needed relief only for him to blow up my entire week with a piss poor effort. 17 losses doesn’t lie. That is a lot of losses and it doesn’t make sense with his somewhat decent ERA. I’d still take Volquez over Guthrie strictly over talent sake
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 6, 2011 10:55 AM MST up reply actions
No. Really, look.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?id=guthrje01&t=p&year=
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 6, 2011 10:56 AM MST up reply actions
Baaha
I was just going to post this. Well done.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 6, 2011 10:59 AM MST up reply actions
not bad
lots of 7’s in there… proved me wrong well done. It was a game 2 years ago where he blew one of my fantasy weeks up. Man looking at some of those ending scores tho your right his relief must not have been good. I see games where he leaves giving up 5 or so and the final score shows his team giving up 11? Yikes.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 6, 2011 11:01 AM MST up reply actions
Guthrie isn't great.
But he would probably eat a lot of innings for us in 2012. I think he fills a hole that we need to fill. I’d rather have him.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 6, 2011 11:02 AM MST up reply actions
The only thing is
Slowly seems a lot like the “innings eater” you guys are looking for, especially if he returns to his form back in 2008. Volquez is not only younger than Guthrie but already has put up an all star season before getting hurt. Now I know Rockies fans especially know that a pitcher can easily have an all star season then fall off the map (Hampton and Ubaldo) but Volquez is younger and cheaper. I would take Volquez easily. I mean what if the guy has a hug bounce back year and ends up leading the team in wins which he is capable of doing? I know with Guthrie you kind of know what your are going to get but with the Rox vast abundance of pitchers I think the Rox could take a gamble on a Volquez. I would personally. Maybe the safr way is better but I would certainly gamble on this one especially at the cost ofVolquez.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 6, 2011 11:06 AM MST up reply actions
Slowey has never pitched over 160.1 innings.
He isn’t an innings eater. Guthrie is pretty solid and dependable. You could safely rely on him for 200 IP.
On the flipside, it’s possible that Volquez won’t be much better than Esmil Rogers next year. And that he could spend significant time in the minors as he did this year.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 6, 2011 11:11 AM MST up reply actions
very true
I like the comparison between Rogers and Volquez i’d say that’s pretty accurate but i’d still give the nod to Volquez fr the fact that Rogers is a infielder transitioning to a pitcher and Volquez, I believe, is a traditional pitcher. I have liked Volquez for a while and I think he will get back to what he was. Too bad about Slowey, i thought he had pitched around 180-200 innings before.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 6, 2011 11:13 AM MST up reply actions
Volquez has a much higher upside
but his recent performances have not shown it.
It’s really just a philosophical argument as to what the team should pursue.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 6, 2011 11:15 AM MST up reply actions
agreed
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 6, 2011 11:17 AM MST up reply actions
How about ‘his team is dogshit’? Does that help make sense of a pitcher losing games despite a somewhat decent ERA?
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 6, 2011 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah, pitchers who can’t throw in the 90’s have no chance to pitch well for the Rockies. Guess it’s a good thing nobody told this guy.
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Yea but Francis had good control
and some nice breaking stuff. I have read a couple reports on Guthrie who say he uses his fstball a lot and hsi control is iffy.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 6, 2011 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
career 2.68 BB/9
that’s very good, especially when you consider he’s spent essentially his entire career in the AL east. he also doesn’t throw a curveball much…. the low GB% is a concern, but it’s something that can be worked around
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 6:51 PM MST up reply actions
I'm well aware of the actual production of the magazine
But LSU is “Still Standing on Top”
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Oklahoma state didn't get none at all.
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not sure that came out right
boise state’s been outstanding for years and has never been ranked where they should be, where OSU is pretty fairly ranked i reckon, or might be too high
it depends on the long term goal of this trade
I’d be okay with both. Just for 2012, give me Guthrie. After that, give me Volquez
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I'm not going to evaluate any Huston Street deal
until we figure out what happens with the money we save.
If we end up getting a Palanco to go along with Volquez, then I’m ok with that.
It's Jim Tracy's Fault.
But if we move street
and Brandon Wood is our opening day starting 3b, then I’m not going to be happy.
It's Jim Tracy's Fault.
Im happy with it as long as Brandon Woods long lost potential
is found
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 10:48 AM MST up reply actions
It's buried somewhere in the pig pen
Down there with Stewie’s potential.
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Maybe we can just put them both in Jim Tracy's magic utility machine
and out will pop one player with the strength of two( and a half, since stewie already had the strength of two), and the contact of one, while switch hitting and playing great defense.
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by Purple Row Troll on Dec 6, 2011 12:32 PM MST up reply actions
Wouldn't that be something if he DOES?
Not holding my breath, but he had 50 HR power a long time ago in the minors.
don't worry.
that’s not happnin.
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 6, 2011 11:51 AM MST up reply actions
RIRF:
Take note, just in case :-)
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 6, 2011 1:51 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
You mean for if the prediction works out like this?
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 6, 2011 2:56 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Bahahaha
You never let me down.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 6, 2011 2:58 PM MST up reply actions
Less than a year old. I'm disappointed.
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Well
He only has 2.5 years of CCR posts to go off of.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 6, 2011 3:12 PM MST up reply actions
Creedence Clearwater Revival? Oh, wait. Right
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 6, 2011 3:14 PM MST up reply actions
Banana
/waits to see what happens
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Pshaw
I don’t even need to look, that’s like a week old.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 6, 2011 3:15 PM MST up reply actions
Placido Polanco?
I’ve seen Polanco mentioned here a few times… that’s a bad, bad idea. I’ve got Polanco projected as an offensive zero next year (.232 ABR)… he’s still got a great glove, but that’s the entirety of his value. Stewart projects just as well, and needless to say, has far more upside.
I have him projected as
a .485 wavg so I think its a good idea
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 10:48 AM MST up reply actions
I know, I’ve been wanting those guys for years. But they’re still good:
Callaspo: .258 ABR, +7 defense at 3B, 2.54 WAR
Johnson: .266 ABR, -3 defense at 2B, 2.20 WAR
Izturis: .256 ABR, +4 defense at 3B, 1.91 WAR
Callaspo and Izturis are fine,
like others, I have real reservations about Johnson just based on the fact that so many teams want nothing to do with him but he seems such an obvious upgrade to many. As such I’m thinking the direction he took last season is more of what can be expected of him going forward.
NEIFI agrees with you
I certainly don’t think he’ll ever have another season like 2010. But it’s important to be clear about what “the direction he took last season” actually is… there’s some rotten BABIP luck in there. Give him a normal singles rate, and he’d have had a .269 ABR, which is pretty close to where NEIFI sees him for 2012.
Do not want Johnson
We don’t need any more high-K rally-killers.
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yeah 20 hrs and 3 war from 2b would really suck
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career .343 OBP
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Decent, but not exactly great.
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for a good defensive 2B?
that’s great, IMO
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I just have an irrational dislike for strikeouts.
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johnson's only high-K year was last year
not normally what he does
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Good to know, maybe I shouldn't be as excited about him as I am.
How would he project at second compared to our current crop?
WAR projections
Young: 1.31 WAR (by the numbers, I have him as average defensively, so obviously subtract .1 WAR for every run below average you expect him to be
Emaus 1.08
Polanco 0.74
Herrera -0.39
Nelson -0.45
Field -0.57
Okay, well hopefully that will mean the Phillies don't ask for too much.
I also think that there’s more there than projections show. Though it does make me hope that the Rockies should look to back him up by keeping Stewart or adding somebody else.
how are these projections derived? was there a fanpost or something back in the day I could peruse?
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fantastic. thanks!
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Big Drop off for a guy who has averaged
170 hits per year last 5 years
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 11:00 AM MST up reply actions
Jays are probably out of the Street sweepstakes (Streetstakes?) – they just acquired Sergio Santos from the White Sox.
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For Nestor Molina who I think is one of rays top arms in their system
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 10:52 AM MST up reply actions
holy shit. That’s an awesome trade for the White Sox.
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Santos is good too though
He had 92 Ks in 60 some odd innings last year and has only been pitching for couple of years
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 10:55 AM MST up reply actions
I know but it just seems lopsided and very unlike Anthopolous to me…
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He's a pretty overrated GM as far as what people expect the quality of his moves to be.
But he does make a lot of interesting moves.
All of that, including his dirt cheap cost, makes him a much more valuable commodity than Street,
just in case anybody’s wondering why we couldn’t get a Molina (I hate Molinas.)
remember a few days ago when I was talking about how every offseason it seems like a few stupid trades go down? I’m considering this one of them.
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Well, looks like Street will be the most sought after reliever now
because the Red Sox and other teams are not going to give up a B+ prospect for Bailey. I wouldn’t have even traded Ramos or Molina for Bailey (similar returns for closers).
Great, great news for the Rockies, especially because I don’t think we get what we wanted from the Blue Jays for Street anyways.
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I was even more amazed the Padres got Wieland and Erlin for Adams
I can’t even believe how good things are working out for a Street trade right now.
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though admittedly, that they were willing to give up Molina for Santos
shows that maybe the Jays were the team that O’Dowd should have been dealing with to get the most out of a trade.
we'd have to eat salary in a Toronto trade
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Santos is far more valuable than Mike Adams was
Considering his contract status… this really isn’t that bad a deal for the Jays. I’ve got Santos at $8 million surplus value, Molina at $10 million (as the #95 overall prospect… I doubt BA, Goldstein or Sickels would rank him higher than that). Don’t get me wrong, I think the White Sox come out ahead here, but it’s not a fleecing.
Interesting, and a fair take. I've heard Molina as higher, but people can be really bullish on the stats
Also, I’m just curious, what projection system do you use, as well as generate the surplus value of potential prospects? I’m also interested in how much the Padres fleeced Texas for Adams, I’ve heard of Erlin being ranked as a top 100 prospect as well
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I use my own projections
I call them the NEIFI projections, in the proud and pointless tradition of PECOTA and CHONE… they’re basically Marcel projections + MLEs, with some extra BABIP and HR/FB regression thrown in the mix.
The prospect values are based on a little thing I created called the ProspectBot, which attempts to rate prospects based solely on objective data (i.e. statistics, draft position/signing bonus, height). I’ve been refining it for several years now, to the point that I think it’s as good as any of the “expert” lists… what it loses by not having scouting info, it makes up for by reading the numbers better, or so I hope. There isn’t much science behind the dollar values… I arrived at those basically by saying “okay, here’s the list of prospects, now the average farm system should be worth about this much, and therefore the top guys should be in this-and-this value range”. But they seem to work.
Adams for Erlin and Wieland was an epic fleecing. I’ve got Erlin at #25 overall, Wieland at #73… combined value $33 million.
Re: Santos
Just thought I’d add a little thing here… like I said, NEIFI says that Santos has just over $8m surplus value. He’s making $8.25m over the next three years… so essentially, NEIFI is saying that if Santos were a free agent, a fair contract would be 3 years, $17 million. Compare that to the actual contracts given to Heath Bell and Joe Nathan (neither of whom are as good as Santos) and you get a nice illustration of how insane the FA closer market is these days…
Insanity
I hope those who hope to trade Street know that the team that would be getting him would have to hope for 1.4 WAR for Street to break even if 1 WAR equals 5 million on the open market, which is actually a little much so they’d need more. (I’ll go run and hide now)
It’s why I hope the Rockies are targeting starting pitchers like Guthrie , and equalize the deal by adding a solid prospect. I think that’s a win-win on both sides.
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well, targeting pitchers on 1 year committments
who will cost just as much as Street (I think Guthrie is going to be slightly more expensive)
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$5m/win isn't a little much
You’re undershooting it substantially (not your fault, everyone else is doing the same). I posted this in another thread… $5.72m/win last winter, $5.60m/win so far this winter. I have yet to see anyone do a comprehensive study to arrive at the $5m/win figure… it’s a lazy shortcut. You practically have to assume that players don’t decline at all in their 30s in order to arrive at a figure as low as $5m/win.
Oh, and because I haven't mentioned it yet
My projection for Street: 3.39 ERC, 0.99 WAR.
Other relievers: Papelbon 2.80 (not worth $50m, but he’s certainly a cut above the other guys), Santos 3.27, Bell 3.56, Nathan 3.66. Street’s a fine pitcher, the larger issue here is that the league as a whole has no idea how to value relievers.
Just curious, are you using fWAR or bWAR…because fWAR has their own system, and it comes nowhere near to yours.
Perhaps the difference is which WAR you use, but the differences are staggering.
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It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
I use my own WAR
But the replacement level is just about the same as fWAR or bWAR… maybe a little higher, but that certainly doesn’t account for $/win differences of the magnitude we’re talking about here.
Just to clarify
I went and checked Fangraphs to see what replacement level they’re using… I’m using exactly the same replacement levels as they are for position players and relievers, and a higher replacement level for starting pitchers. (I’ve got a justification for that, of course… my replacement level is based on looking at how many players project at or above certain levels. Using the Fangraphs level, the average organization has 11-12 above replacement level starting pitchers, which is crazy high… using my level, the average team has 8-9 such pitchers).
Molina...
Will be higher than #95 on most lists … Sickel’s has him as the Jays’ #2 prospect and a strong B+.
Santos is good, but he’s just a reliever to me, an excellent one, but still just a reliever. I personally tend to place extra weight on a guy who can strike people out while walking no one. Molina’s k-rate will most likely drop as he rises up through ML levels but I feel like that walk rate will always be a strength.
108 innings at A+ ball and only 14 walks. Awesome.
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I think Sickels is out on a limb there... we'll see what others say
One thing I’ve noticed about Sickels’ ratings over the years is that he places a lot of emphasis on K/BB ratio. That’s a mistake… one, because the ratio itself is meaningless (better to use the differential), and two, because guys with elite K/BB ratios tend to be somewhat lower-ceiling guys, relying on avoiding the base on balls (rather than beating hitters with their stuff). I’m not saying that Molina’s a finesse junkballer or anything, he’s clearly more than that, but his statistical profile isn’t that of a guy with a really high ceiling.
lolwut?
because guys with elite K/BB ratios tend to be somewhat lower-ceiling guys
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/strikeouts_per_base_on_balls_career.shtml
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make the same search for minor leaguers at the A level, though
and see what you think. It’s really not that impressive.
gotcha
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he’s talking about minor leaguers. When guys have elite ratios like that in the majors…then yea, they’re usually friggin’ awesome pitchers.
It’s more of an issue of this guy has success in the minors more because he doesn’t walk people. His stuff may not be able to get guys at higher levels out.
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I also forget how sneaky good James Shields is.
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I enjoyed the presence of Jon Lieber on that leaderboard
If anyone was wondering about my claim that K/BB differential is a better metric than K/BB ratio, look at Lieber, and then look at Nolan Ryan.
when you say k/bb differential, are you talking about just k – bb?
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yep
well, obviously as a rate stat: (K-BB)/BF
ooo interesting. I was thinking of just converting k/bb differential into z-scores, but dividing it over batters faced is pretty good.
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explain "K/BB differential" please? (and why it's better)
i’m not quite grasping it
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K/BB
Think about the FIP formula:
FIP = 13*HR+3*BB-2*K+league constant
Now, let’s take two pitchers, each with 200 IP.
Pitcher A: 200 IP, 200 K, 100 BB
Pitcher B: 200 IP, 80 K, 40 BB
The K/BB ratio is the same. But which pitcher is actually getting more value out of their combined Ks and BBs? Back to the FIP formula:
Pitcher A: 100*3-200*2 = -100
Pitcher B: 40*3-80*2 = -40
(Negative points are good, obviously, because negative points = lower FIP)
So the guy with the higher K and BB rates (and therefore the larger K-BB differential, given the same IP) is better, even though their K/BB ratio is the same.
cool, thanks
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 10:55 AM MST up reply actions
This starts to make me wonder...
If we trade Street for another MLB level starter…how do the ranks of pitching file in for both the big league and the minors.
AA maybe quite full.
Are the Marlins trying to break themselves?
Also reported the Marlins are offering Pujols a 10-year contract.
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Here's the rest of it
CBSSports.com’s Jon Heyman tweeted on Tuesday morning that the Marlins seem to have continued to show legitimate interest in first baseman Albert Pujols, as Heyman heard the club boosted its offer to 10 years.
Evidently the Marlins are seriously interested in bringing Pujols to Miami to join Jose Reyes, Heath Bell and Co. Now, it remains to be seen whether such a contract could be enough to draw Pujols’ mutual interest.
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DKnobler:
DKnobler:
Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria: “I think I need a steak” [via Twitter]
I would laugh my arse off if the Marlins got tied to Pujols for 10 years. 5 is great, 10 is very, very bad
Here we go.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20111205&content_id=26096172&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb
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10 years. 200 million.
Stay in STL Albert. There’s trouble brewing in Miami
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10 years
ouch. I would never give that to someone over 28 let alone already in their 30’s. But for the next 5 years Florida will be really really good. A top four of Reyes, Ramirez, Pujols, Stanton is flat out nasty and the best in all of baseball.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 6, 2011 11:10 AM MST up reply actions
5 years. They will be broke and will be like the Dodgers.
The shine will go away in Miami and folks will begin NOT going again tot he games
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idk
all they need is a couple championships and they will bring enough people in. They could def win with that lineup and the decent rotation they have.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 6, 2011 11:14 AM MST up reply actions
especially if they turn
Gabby Sanchez and prospects into james Shields from the Rays.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 6, 2011 11:15 AM MST up reply actions
I want Gaby Sanchez.
I wonder if he can play 2nd?
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doubt it
i think he is a bigger dude… 6’1 225… not really your typical 2b build…. maybe third tho. He would be cool to trade fr but I think he will cost a lot.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 6, 2011 11:18 AM MST up reply actions
Is Tulo your typical sized SS?
6’3 220?
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yea not really i guess
but Tulo is a freak of nature. I have watched Gabby play a few times and would say no I doubt he could play 2nd but maybe 3rd.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 6, 2011 11:21 AM MST up reply actions
I would love to see Sanchez somewhere in the IF at Coors.
I think he would do well here
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Also, he may become expendable if they sign Pujols.
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he would
they would flip him for a starting pitcher…. Matt Cain or James Shields.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 6, 2011 11:21 AM MST up reply actions
This tweet from Olney has to make you wonder what their plan is...
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Reports from South Florida are that Marlins can build $100 payroll. If they sign Pujols for $25m a year, they’d be at $90m for six players.
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by Junction Rox on Dec 6, 2011 11:22 AM MST up reply actions
$100 payroll?
Hell, I could afford that
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Heh. I didn't even notice that.
There have been years a $100 payroll would have been progress for them…. lol
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by Junction Rox on Dec 6, 2011 11:25 AM MST up reply actions
Makes me think
I need to stop messing around on OOTP and actually start running an MLB team.
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/messes around on OOTP
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for that price. Yea.
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They have the lease and stadium ad windfall already, even without added fan support.
They’ve probably added over $40 million in revenue without selling a single ticket.
#Rockies O’Dowd cont… we feel Slowey has a chance to be solid #4-#5 rotation man for us.
Now here’s the question: what do we do with Jason Hammel?
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I still like MIllwood.
But, apparently he is no longer an option
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he’d be a minor league contract at this point, if at all
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cut him
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 6, 2011 11:19 AM MST up reply actions
we couldn't get anything for him
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. . . . .
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by Muzia on Dec 6, 2011 11:21 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
lol
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Damn. There was supposed to be a ? at the end of that question.
Could we get anything for him??? Thats better
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by Muzia on Dec 6, 2011 11:21 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
lol
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Cut Hammel?
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joke
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 6, 2011 11:32 AM MST up reply actions
However we want
Maybe now the Rockies won’t be pressured to use him in a manner they might not have wanted to but felt forced into.
He did pretty good in the bullpen
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We could have used it last year.
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You got a problem with Whites?
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Blackmon of course
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No need for a bullpen
Two starters each day – one guy throws innings 1-5, the next guy throws innings 6-9
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do I see another Abbott and Costelo coming up soon?
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Who?
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I will let you all go from here on this
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You started it.
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I know but Im not that good at stuff like that
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What?
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exactly.
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Might as well start.
Why is the sky blue? LOL
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I don't know.
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What?
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Which might be an improvement
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It kind of got buried in the Volquez/Slowey news
But from the link in the Rockpile:
A road map for Nicasio.
More details have emerged in starter Juan Nicasio’s startling recovery from a broken neck. Not only has he maintained velocity in his bullpen sessions — he’s still hitting upper 90 mphs, according to Rockies officials who have watched him — he threw 52 strikes in 55 pitches over three sessions. Beginning Friday, the plan is for Nicasio to throw three times this month to a hitter standing in the box. Barring any setbacks, he will throw in controlled batting practice in January.
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he threw 52 strikes in 55 pitches over three sessions.
/raises eyebrow
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They had Hernandez there framing his pitches...
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by Junction Rox on Dec 6, 2011 11:27 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
ah. carry on then
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i bet that saved 40 runs
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by papality on Dec 6, 2011 11:28 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
yea, Renck glossed over the fact that that was whoever watched Nicasio pitch’s estimate. Probably wasn’t that good though I’d take 35 out of 55 for strikes right now….
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Nothing but love for this guy
I’m still not holding my breath that he’s ready to rock, but love reading stuff like this.
Maybe this might happen
JCRMarlinsbeat Juan C. Rodriguez
Loria, Samson, Beinfest, Hill heading upstairs for meeting. Pujols situation could crystallize soon. #marlins
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Blue Jays are out
ScottMCBSSports Scott Miller
Sergio Santos definitely will close for Blue Jays.
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I lol'd and rec'd it
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how dare you!
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 6, 2011 11:56 AM MST up reply actions
Nope.
There’s a picture out there somewhere of them next to each other. Otherwise I’d be suspicious.
Regardless, I’m super curious about this guy’s real identity, to the point that I perused Google. I did see mention that he did play D-I baseball somewhere. But nothing about his real name.
Nats need a center fielder
Would there be anyone of interest to us in return for our surplus outfielders?
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for the out of LF trades that get thrown around?
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and the silliness
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hey
this is srs bsns
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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Polanco
#Phillies have told teams they would eat only about one-third of $6.25 million left on Polanco’s contract http://es.pn/uTPR6P
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better than expected, actually. We could always trade for Polanco and neutralize the 2M we are sending their way for Wiggy.
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#Phillies feeling out other teams’ interest in Placido Polanco, but only would deal him if Jimmy Rollins leaves. http://es.pn/uTPR6P
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Mixed feelings about this:
1 That’s a good price, especially given those projections we have above from HF
2 That may be too good a price, they’re now seeming a bit overeager to deal him and I wonder if they know something they’re not letting on. I hope it’s just a sell off because an Aramis deal is immenent.
Wow
IF Pujols goes to Miami: Marlins could be rare team with four 5-WAR position players. http://es.pn/tRh3aD
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I am glad the Rockies only have to worry about cash-strapped teams like the Padres and Dodgers,
and not play in a division with those fat cat Marlins.
by Rox Girl on Dec 6, 2011 11:44 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
What would it take player wise to get Gaby Sanchez from the Marlins if they do sign Pujols?
He is still cheap and team controlled
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thats not what I was asking.
Who would it take? I know it’ll take alot.
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Yeah but it kind of puts them in a bad situation
because where will they play him?
Not 1st 3rd or RF
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 2:00 PM MST up reply actions
or LF with LoMo out there
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OT:
Sources: Big East will add Boise State, San Diego State, SMU, Central Florida and Houston (This should be from the Onion)
I find this to be stupid. When did Idaho become part of the East?
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Or san diego?
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Where in the world is San Diego?
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by Junction Rox on Dec 6, 2011 12:09 PM MST up reply actions
Idaho?
Heck, SDCat is officially on the East Coast now.
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watch out for hurricanes.
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I know. I'm horrible.
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Start working on your defense of Jimmy Rollins' 2007 GG and MVP...
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by Junction Rox on Dec 6, 2011 12:10 PM MST up reply actions
They're just expanding it some
The NFL has shown us for years that Dallas is actually on the east coast so this is really just the next step.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 6, 2011 12:18 PM MST up reply actions
WAT? That's nutty.
San Diego is farther west than Idaho!
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Apparently the #marlins forgot what happened to the #heat when they assembled names & not a team #NoPlayoffs #justsayin
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I forgot to put this in there
SBerthiaumeESPN
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wtf?
Did Berthiaume tweet this?
Heat went to the freaking championship.
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 6, 2011 11:57 AM MST up reply actions
Yep
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He retweeted Geoff Blum.
blummer27 Geoff Blum
Apparently the #marlins forgot what happened to the #heat when they assembled names & not a team #NoPlayoffs #justsayin
14 minutes ago
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 6, 2011 12:01 PM MST up reply actions
or, you know, one game from a Championship. either/or really.
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blummer27 Geoff Blum
Ok, I blew that 1! Totally forgot the Heat got Beat by the Mavs
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 6, 2011 12:07 PM MST up reply actions
Hey, it’s not his fault ESPN no longer covers sports
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Only Yankees and Red Sox
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blummer27 Geoff Blum
I’m headed to CVS to get some mouthwash for that shoe I just ate. #MyBad
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 6, 2011 12:09 PM MST up reply actions
yeaaaaaaaaa.
At least he apologized.
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 6, 2011 12:09 PM MST up reply actions
thanks for straightening that out
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He shouldn’t really have retweeted it either though. But that’s ESPN folks for you.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 6, 2011 12:05 PM MST up reply actions
Its what I saw, and I thought it was funny.
Marlins won’t win it next year anyways. Just my opinion.
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We should really try and make a splash for Buerhle.
Make an offer and see what happens. I doubt he would come to Denver anyways but what the hell?
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Blah
harding_at_mlb Thomas Harding
Cubs’ interest in Stewart wanes bit.ly/uea3Jl
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link fail
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quick request
can you not post every single link you find? Adding these to the current conversation threads would be plenty
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by Muzia on Dec 6, 2011 12:09 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
ok, will do
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it just keeps the conversation flowing around here
especially when there is so much going on.
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so just add one in any convo?
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if it’s relevant?
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to the Rockies?
The one below is relevant to the rockies
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that one's cool
I should have replied to one of your other posts
Stupid Muzia, can’t even heed his own advice
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Don't worry about it.
You have a lot more pull around here than me. LOL. Do as you wish.
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I'm nothing around here except a bundle of bad jokes, hockey reference, and Tulo bashing
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You know more than me. LOL
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What else is there?
I wasn’t aware there was the possibility of adding more to my repertoire. Hell, I haven’t even been doing the Tulo bashing….
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by Junction Rox on Dec 6, 2011 12:22 PM MST up reply actions
better than maria
she’s just a hot dog with a hat
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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No he doesn't
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JFK
correcto
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here
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saw linked at Sickels’ blog. Over at bucsdugout they have a list of intriguing potential rule 5 draftees. I know this isn’t an area the Rockies have really done anything in but it’s pretty cool stuff for prospect/roster junkies.
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hmmmm. try this
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party!
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This is perhaps the best rumor update you will see on MLBTR throughout the offseason
Sidney Ponson has no intention of pitching again, writes MASNSports.com’s Roch Kubatko. Currently, Ponson is contemplating whether to purchase a boat. I say go for it, big guy!
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I saw that.
Funny.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Dec 6, 2011 12:34 PM MST up reply actions
Question is
Will it be a Ponson…erm, pontoon boat?
by Purple Row Troll on Dec 6, 2011 12:37 PM MST up reply actions
Eat all of it? WHAT?!
jaysonst:
#Rockies continue to dangle Huston Street to multiple teams. Telling teams they’re willing to eat all $ for prospects. #Padres a possibility
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@jaystonst: #Rockies continue to dangle Huston Street to multiple teams. Telling teams they’re willing to eat all $ for prospects. #Padres a possibility
Jayson Stark reporting. I don’t know how I feel about this. Tell me how to feel!
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I think he may have had to much to drink.
I didn’t think we were eating ANY of it
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click on the quote marks up above, then copy the text in between the two blockquote tags
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so how do you get the blockquote tags?
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or just paste your quote into the text box, highlight it, then click the quote marks right above the text box.
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How do you blue box stuff?
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Call Doctor Who
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Depends on the definition of "prospects"
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Posturing. I don't buy it for one second.
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my thoughts exactly.
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When they say eat all of it, I assume that’s only for 2012. I think I’d be okay with them eating all of it, if it meant we could acquire a seriously good prospect.
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So, assuming that it's not posturing, and if we can take it at face value,
I’d read into it that there might be an interesting offer of that type on the table. Pipe dreaming, I’m hoping it’s a Volquez plus Francisco type of offer.
Jed Lowrie.
I can hope anyways
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Frazier would be ok
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Could we include his dad in the deal?
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That would be nice...
Votto would be better
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lovely prospect
however the reds want top-flight pitching, and we don’t have that
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we'd def
have to give them something more. I haven’t seen too much about what the Reds would price Alsonso…
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+1
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 6, 2011 1:24 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
well
JimBowdenESPNxm:
Joe Maddon just told us @mlbnetworkradio that Yonder Alonso’s name has come up in mtgs & they realize they may have to trade one of their SP
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Given the relatively value that Renck suggests the Reds have for Street,
and given the relatively high value they’ve put on Alonso, I just don’t think there’s a match there. That’s why I think even Francisco’s a pipe dream even though they are much lower on him as an organization.
Oh, I definitely don't have the same value for him that the Reds do.
I’m just saying that people need to understand what kind of value they do place on him before just tossing his name out there. I agree that it’s too high for what he’s really worth.
I wonder
if they’d flip Volquez for Street and then Alonso for a better pitcher…
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How do we like Bernadina? Opinions.
#Nationals are letting teams know Roger Bernadina is available in trade. Raw but toolsy OF with some upside. Still only 27
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.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/bernaro01.shtml
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we already have claimed two toolsy OF since the season ended
in Brown and Hoffman. I doubt our 40 man can handle another one
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ok, I had seen his name tossed around on here before.
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I would love this trade
as long as we don’t have to eat the salery and not give up any more than a B rated prospect. Then the idea of getting Hawkins and Polanco
Colorado Offense: Making bad pitchers look like CY Young Winners.
I looked at the Angels roster
Who is their 2nd baseman. They are looking for a bullpen guy. Not for a closer’s role. Street trade to them?
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Thanks. He isnt going anywhere
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Callaspo, Itzuris, Amarista and Aybar can all play 2B as well
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Orioles are in pursuit of Garza and Soriano.
Baltimore would take on all of Soriano’s contract. LOL
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Breaking News
According to the Denver Post’s Troy Renck, J.C. Romero is drawing interest from the Cardinals.
who can we get for him
Bag of balls?
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He's a free agent
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
oh ok.
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On #Miami C Pete O’Brien. #Canes folks were pretty confident he’d get cleared a couple of months ago. I’m not so sure now. #ACC #mlbdraft
O’Brien was the Rockies 4th round draft pick that felt disrespected by the team’s offer. The new CBA added to the possibility he’s not going to get cleared to play after transferring are making it look like a really dumb decision on his part not to take what Colorado put on the table.
that’ll teach you O’Brien!
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Early DS9 O'Brien.
I like.
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After one half-decent show comes out
do they really have to make 30 different copies of it. God damn.
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it’s mostly on in the background or flip it back SNF
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Saturday Night Fever?
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Scary. Hivemind.
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Seriously? Sunday Night Football
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Stalking Nelson Figueroa?
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That might get you scratched
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Super Neurotic Females?
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Im pretty sure O'brien was a third rounder not a 4th
Dillon Thomas was our fourth.
(Random I know)
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Tom Haudricourt, re Brewers:
Aramis Ramirez’s agent, Paul Kinzer, considers #Brewers “a favorite” for the 3B. Phillies, Angels also have interest. http://bit.ly/uPtZIn
That would put the brakes on Polanco, probably. I really hope the Braves lower their sights for Prado.
but would make McGahee cheap
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I don't know about that.
I also don’t think he’d be that great an option to look into given Stewart/Arenado. I’d want less risk.
He is buy low flyer material at best
they need what we don’t have namely a SS
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The only potential upside
is that McGehee might then hit the market as a cheap 3b some teams could trade for which may depress the demand for Prado. I doubt it really does much though since one’s a 3b and the other can be a 2b…
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making your way in mlb today takes all the arms you’ve got.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 6, 2011 2:45 PM MST up reply actions
Taking a break from all those walks.
Sure would help a lot.
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Wouldn't you like to get a Brave?
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And Jim T is causing fits,
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And your Closer
Hung a curve ball over the plate;
And your third baseman didn’t show;
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?
?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 6, 2011 3:34 PM MST up reply actions
wants to be SS, so probably won't come here
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 6, 2011 2:35 PM MST up reply actions
If you wait until February on a player like this, sometimes it works out that you can get them for a bargain,
because their other options will have dried up or gone to other players, but I wouldn’t count on it for Furcal. That’s not really the Rockies way of operating, anyway, under this front office. At full fair market value he’s too pricey for CO’s budget.
Last 3 years
Rafael Furcal WAR 8.2
Jimmy Rollins WAR 9.2
someone will pay him
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From Renck, on Street:
#Rockies’ focus remains moving Huston Street to either bring back pitching or move $$ to go after other targets.
This relates to discussion above. So they’re open to either option, depending on what other teams are willing to offer.
maybe they will go down a different avenue instead of street
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 2:52 PM MST up reply actions
perhaps a boulevard?
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I am feeling a little un-easy about the thought of Raffy as our closer
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not that I felt good with Street either
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 2:55 PM MST up reply actions
I'd feel better if they weren't related
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 6, 2011 2:59 PM MST up reply actions
Rex Goodfellas?
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that I feel good about. Raffy, not so much. He had that stretch last year where he was awful
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 3:06 PM MST up reply actions
i think the plan is
to let Raffy go until he hits a bad stretch, then give Brothers his shot.
2011 - not even light can escape
fair enough
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 3:09 PM MST up reply actions
I think
I’d rather have closer by committee and spend Street’s salary on an impact offensive piece than keep Street here/spend outrageous amounts on a closer.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 6, 2011 2:56 PM MST up reply actions
we need a #5 hitter!
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 3:08 PM MST up reply actions
(and #2, and #7) yeah blah blah blah
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 3:08 PM MST up reply actions
insert Ramon Hernandez
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 3:10 PM MST up reply actions
Why? He was terrific in the latter half of the season.
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because he wasn’t terrific in the first half of the season
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 3:23 PM MST up reply actions
Awww, ignore the good stuff?
I’ll take the improvement and be happy that he improved :)
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just saying that as a closer you cant have bad halfs or bad quarters or bad eigths even, you can have a bad outing but thats it you have to be there every single time we come calling
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 3:27 PM MST up reply actions
Everything that I saw from Betancourt
in the latter half gives me no pause to see him back in the closer role.
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But but but they're the Rockies
They only play off their butts in the 2nd half except for 2010 and 2011.
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well
TroyRenck Troy Renck, Rockies
Have heard Rox would eat a chunk of Street salary but not all of it… If that’s the case opens up a lot of possibilities
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How can eating alot of salary.
translate into opening things up? Doesn’t that take away our 8 million bucks they were going to save
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It does,
but if the projected surplus value of the returning player(s) is higher than that $8 million or a player the Rockies could sign for that money, than it might make sense.
That is kind of what I thought it meant. Just wasn't sure.
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Yeah, I took that to mean
“opens up” a lot of trade possibilities…
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Lohse makes 11.5 Westbrook make 8.5
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alright purple row, you know what to do, find some sabr stat or something out of your own projection hat and rip westbrook apart….Go
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 3:07 PM MST up reply actions
His traditional stats do a decent job of that?
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I think the Cards are trying to make room to make a play on Pujols.
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Look! He's clean and doesn't have a big ol chew in his mouth.
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Jim Tracy addresses the media.
twitpic.com/7pgozb Probably talking about special players
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UGH
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D'oh! Ninja'd!
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Tracy talking about special things
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God I love Hot Stove time.
MULTIPLE HIVEMINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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More multiple boredmind
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Tracy says the word "special" a few times
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Oh dammit
it was going to be really funny if the link actually showed up in that post. Off my game today
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Hit the showers
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Probably not.
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Yeowch
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Yeah. That didn’t quite come out as expected.
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Take a lap.
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wear more layers. Make you sweat more, you lose weight faster.
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My buddy saw this.
If the Marlins weren’t opening their new stadium. What would the market be like for Pujols and Reyes?
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Renck tweets
Tracy talked ab
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out Hammel’s late season improvement… Hammel not on trade block they need him for rotation
that’s better
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So right now we are at
Chacin, Hammel, Slowey, for OD with Nicasio a question mark and a slew of ST invites?
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basically like 19 AAAA pitchers who all have some sort of potential in their own special way and Chacin
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 3:25 PM MST up reply actions
UUUUMMMMM
you may be under valuing Pom, White, Chatwood and Bettis
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What have they done for me lately? A combined 5.72 ERA in MLB?
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 3:34 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, let me direct you back towards the Tyler Chatwood conversations a couple of days ago…
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not sure what you mean
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 3:41 PM MST up reply actions
making decisions on young arms
based on their initial MLB sample size is fairly foolish
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especially ERA-based decisions
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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not making a decision at all
just purely saying that they are mainstays in the rotation and are gonna be good for us is fairly foolish as well.
I just want to maintain that they technically should be labeled as question marks coming into the season as well. JDLR, niKasio, Pom, White, Chatwood, Slowey, Bettis are all question marks, we really have no long term anything to say they are going to be good. AAA and AA are no MLB.
Only reason hammel isn’t a question mark is because we know that we are gonna get some decent work out of him and a some not so decent work out of him
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 3:49 PM MST up reply actions
technically, anyone not named Buerhle or Halladay is a question mark
but the phrase “AAAA pitcher” implies an Alan Johnson type, not an arm with actual upside
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but isn't that what they are right now?
On the verge of doing something in the MLB but really developing at the same time somewhere between AAA and MLB at their development stage? We don’t really know what we are gonna get? Or even if they will have any real success? I mean nikasio only really threw fastballs and got away with it for a short time in the majors but we were all still really wondering if he was gonna get figured out shortly. JDLR just had his throwing elbow reconstructed. Pom’s velocity was down at the end of the year
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 3:54 PM MST up reply actions
AAAA
implies that they’ve reached their developmental and potential ceiling, which with none of those names is true, aside from maybe slowey
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
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even Slowey is a back end MLB starter
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exactly
not AAAA at all
I mean at the moment are most of them not AAAA players?
At the moment?
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 3:51 PM MST up reply actions
They’re unproven. If you want to say that a lot of them are unproven and come with question marks (which you’re totally right about), then you know… just say that. AAAA implies they can tear up the minors but not be effective in the ML.
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Jim Tracy sees Ramon Hernandez as a fit at likely 6th spot in order RH bat to follow Helton
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bahahhahahahaha
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I have one better
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Tracy sees C Ramon Hernandez in the fifth or sixth spot in the order
5th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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oh shit we might as well drop Tulo down in the lineup so Ramon can hit higher cuz he has power from foul line to foul line
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 3:26 PM MST up reply actions
We might as well move the pitcher to the top of the order
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.280 hitter!!!!!!
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awesome sooooo 7 8 and 9 are going to blow ass
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 3:25 PM MST up reply actions
So the 8th spot is NOT reserved for catchers....huh...who knew!
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someone that isn't Jim Tracy until now that CDI is gone.
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does not apply if you are latin
DOD finally wised up and put together an all-Latin catching tandem
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well 8th spot is reserved for catchers
who cant lift the bat off their shoulders
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 3:30 PM MST up reply actions
Wait
Does that mean Todd’s batting 5th right now? Shudder.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 6, 2011 3:29 PM MST up reply actions
That would be awesome…..In 2002
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 3:31 PM MST up reply actions
:-)
If we had 2002 Todd, I think he might have the cleanup spot to himself.
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Or he'd still be hitting third
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I really lol'd on this one.
I hate agreeing on this statement but its so true “most” of the time
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Who's to say DOD didn't talk to Tracy....
and tell him he’s now got a .280 hitter he can move to the 6-hole?
We may have more than one dumbass involved here.
At least it's now official
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There is an Arenado mention here
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Tracy on top prospect 3B Nolan Arenado: “we’re going to bring him into camp and let him compete.” But Tracy won’t rule out Ian Stewart.
Forget about Stewart and let the young kid have his big chance.
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woo hoo
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I take your in favor of Nolan being in Denver on OD?
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I'm favor of someone playing 3rd base. If it's Stewy that's great
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Does that statement include Wiggy?
Ducks, runs, and bans self for just a second.
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I was hoping to see nobody playing third base
let’s just put on the Giambi shift all year and see what happens….
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Well nobody played 3rd base last year....
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Interesting. Is there a RF out there were not thinking about?
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Tracy said plan is for Carlos Gonzalez to play RF. An acquisition would be only thing to change that and move Cargo to LF
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no just the norms of willy and cuddy i think is what he is getting at
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 3:35 PM MST up reply actions
i have heard no connection to beltran
i been beating that drum for ages
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More from Tracy
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Tracy said on solving lack of mental toughness “I have stressed importance of leadership.. To take baton and run with it”
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Ok?
Mental toughness. I agree with that. But, its hard to be mentally tough when you swap players around everyday. If you would keep a consistent lineup. These guys could gel and get mentally tough together.
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Yeah, manager milquetoast there showed the leadership in the dugout and on the field what? Once last year?
Translation: “I won’t be a leader for this team, let someone else do it”
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 3:45 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Giambi = baton?
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Only if they're running the 4 x nowhere
Because I don’t see anybody running and carrying Giambi….
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by Junction Rox on Dec 6, 2011 3:56 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I meant Tracy is passing the baton to Giambi..
I should not have used the = sign. Maths fails me again.
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But you created a much funnier mental image this way...
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Well then...
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So we're starting a relay team?
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Harding
Tracy on Kevin Slowey: “He’s a consistent strike-thrower. He does not beat himself.”
Umm yeah, thats because he lets everybody else beat him with their bats
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I said the same thing in the other thread.
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/snort
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I can’t stop laughing at this.
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Or at least hard wood.
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Rumor going around.
Ubaldo for John Danks. YAY OR NAY?
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Change that. A package that involves Ubaldo for Danks
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I say we should do it....
Do we have a Ubaldo lookalike we can fly to Chicago for the physical?
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haha wow
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 3:42 PM MST up reply actions
Damn, couldn't we send Street and get our Ubaldo back?
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what the hell
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 6, 2011 3:44 PM MST via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
I think it would cool to have him back with us.
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Methinks that ship has sailed and is never coming back.
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:((
It sucks.
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and so did 2011 Ubaldo
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Yea, I know. But but but.
I give up.
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I think there is not too much goodwill between Ubaldo and the club now....IMHO
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so pretend
The Rockies trade Pomeranz, White, Gardner and McBride for…say…Jason Heyward. Then six months later, the Braves try to get Heyward back for….Eric O’Flaherty.
That’s what you’re asking
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 6, 2011 3:56 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I give up
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by Muzia on Dec 6, 2011 3:44 PM MST up reply actions 5 recs
what took so long
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JFK
2011
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chatwood, street, and slowey for ubaldo
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by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 3:44 PM MST up reply actions
Renck
Tracy on Slowey “he’s a strike thrower. I like his efficiency (limiting walks)”
Efficient short outings?
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Lets hope not.
rather have Millwood.
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he was our only effective starter at the end of the year
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He was effective
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Yes. our pitching staff needs to hit more dingers.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 3:49 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
can he play 3rd base also?
Since Stewy couldn’t hit any homers
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interesting
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Chatwood, Slowey and Street for HanRam...
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chatwood, slowey and street for this "SS" guy then
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 6, 2011 3:52 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
If they tell him to play at a spot. He had better play there
Otherwise he don’t get paid.
Get on the field, do your job, play ball and quit your bitching. That is what I would say to him.
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At least we have a manager with enough gonads to put his attitude in check......
Oh wait.
/no we don’t
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 3:56 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
He likes Latin guys to much
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Tulo to third.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 6, 2011 3:55 PM MST up reply actions
NOOOOOO it's a black hole
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Um really?
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How else are you going to get HanRam on the team?
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you honestly think Tulo would move to 3rd?
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boy, this conversation feels familiar
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I must've not been here for that.
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/Redhawk'd
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i thought tulo moving to 3rd was an oldfoagie idea
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If he will move to 3rd and we can somehow get HamRam. OMG! That would be awesome.
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Redhawk wrote about it on Bleacher Report
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 6, 2011 4:26 PM MST up reply actions
If he won't we'll trade him
for Volquez, Polanco and Guthrie. Plus a prospect, so we come out ahead.
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If HanRam won't play 3rd in Florida
why would he play 3rd here?
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2nd base?
He could look to his right and honestly say that the better player is at SS.
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seriously, did this conversation not happen recently regarding reyes and hanley?
or am i out of my mind
I give up.
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by Muzia on Dec 6, 2011 4:02 PM MST up reply actions 4 recs
roxman4ever isn't here for some of the conversations.
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thank you Cat. Sometimes, I dont have the chance to get on here everyday. :((
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I probably z'd right past it myself :)
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I think it was linked in this very conversation thread…
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i was thinking the one between petro and CCR
maybe that was yesterday
yeah, but this entire conversation thread
is because you linked an MLBTR article about Reyes and Hanley.
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I didn't read it.
Maybe that is why
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I do 99% of the time but I had something else going on and went right by it. Didn't z it
but didn’t click the link.
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I went and read it.
Its kind of like, um, hear say.
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MLB Trade Rumors
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At least rumors gives us something to talk about
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And give Fleetwood Mac
Something to write music about
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<3
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 6, 2011 4:15 PM MST up reply actions
\m/
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Its kind of like, um, hear say.
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by Muzia on Dec 6, 2011 4:16 PM MST up reply actions 5 recs
me too
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&#()%^@*^&&&@#()*$)(^&@#)*()^&@#+()&^@^+)@&
%&#()&_^_#&%)@#$&*
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by Muzia on Dec 6, 2011 4:18 PM MST up reply actions 4 recs
this is great
i’m almost falling out of my chair
Lol
I feel like I’m watching a British comedy – I don’t understand half of what’s going on, but its hilarious.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Dec 6, 2011 4:21 PM MST up reply actions
I am going to jump off the highest bridge in Denver
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Why do that when we have Gunnison?
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 6, 2011 4:23 PM MST up reply actions
What about teh Royal Gorge?
Heard that’s a pretty high bridge.
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is the new PR language?
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REC'D
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this is you right now
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Read and Learn
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Ok, you just confused the hell out of me.
But, its not that hard though.
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since we're rehashing old conversations
anyone else think we should trade Hawpe while his value is high since we have Seth Smith ready to replace him? I think we coul save money, improve our OF defense a bit and maybe get some relievers to bolster the bullpen. It’ll allow Morales to just focus on starting.
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by Resolution on Dec 6, 2011 4:16 PM MST up reply actions 4 recs
You know what?!
Traditional statistics undervalue Iannetta – he’s a GREAT offensive catcher!
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by Muzia on Dec 6, 2011 4:18 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
sarcasm? was this already posted?
I haven’t been able to keep up with every thread lately.
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Muzia gives up.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 6, 2011 4:19 PM MST up reply actions
that is all that needs to be known about it
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He'll be fine.
Garrett Atkins only happens once a generation.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 6, 2011 4:18 PM MST up reply actions
#FreeChrisNelson
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Wait, you have a TARDIS?
/jealous
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AW YEAH
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 6, 2011 4:26 PM MST up reply actions
HanRam wants to play SS is the point.
He’d rather burn bridges with the Marlins, who have given him a number of chances, to play SS elsewhere.
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We all do expect Troy to move to 3rd when he gets beyond the age of about 34, right?
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
/it is a new beginning, right?
by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 3:59 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
It is written.
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.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 6, 2011 3:56 PM MST up reply actions
This!
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oh see IDK if i would throw in chatwood for him
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 3:52 PM MST up reply actions
really?
for hanley freaking ramirez, you wouldn’t be willing to give up a kid like chatwood?
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
PRMLB Arizona Diamondbacks GM
I couldn't get him out the door fast enough
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Marlins want pitching
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hahahaha oh thats funny
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
by waterboy31321 on Dec 6, 2011 3:55 PM MST up reply actions
i was completely kidding
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
by waterboy31321 on Dec 7, 2011 6:44 AM MST up reply actions
gee, sure would be swell.
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Who's Tula?
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Tula Takulawitskula
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 6, 2011 4:04 PM MST up reply actions
You haven't see My Big, Fat Greek Wedding?
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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Helton is old
I hear Pujols is a FA this offseason.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
PRMLB: The Brew Crew
cheap owners wont drop da dough
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 6, 2011 4:04 PM MST up reply actions
#flagsflyforever
#moreflagsmorefun
#winning
#dynasty
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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#AAAAApitchersLOL
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by Muzia on Dec 6, 2011 4:06 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I give up.
Filling up your senses like a night in the forest since 1992.
by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 6, 2011 4:08 PM MST up reply actions
excellent
we have a new meme
believe me, I know.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
PRMLB: The Brew Crew
Marlins about to rob a fool.
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
/it is a new beginning, right?
by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 3:52 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
it'd be bloody brilliant
sign Reyes, trade HanRam for 3-4 quality prospects = profit
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It’s somewhat ironic that now, when the Marlins are looking like they’re going to have one of the biggest offseasons ever and dramatically improve, instead of thinking Hanley could get in at the ground floor of a potential small-level dynasty, he’d rather just play shortstop somewhere else…
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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I give up.
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it's meta.
Filling up your senses like a night in the forest since 1992.
by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 6, 2011 3:54 PM MST up reply actions
hipsters don't stick to things
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
PRMLB Arizona Diamondbacks GM
Quitster
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Quikster.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 6, 2011 3:55 PM MST up reply actions
Could we send Street, Slowey and Chatwood to the Marlins for Gaby Sanchez?
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!!.!.!.!.!2$28-8/!:9-&-
NO. We’ve had this conversation before.
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 6, 2011 6:35 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
well they were talking about packaging those 3 in a deal.
Just a random thought
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3rd base
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or 2nd would be the prefered choice
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WAT
Just an average guy with exceptional hair. Nothing more, nothing less.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Dec 6, 2011 10:37 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I was going to say
Gaby Sanchez at 2nd? The only time Gaby Sanchez should be anywhere near 2nd base is if he doubles or hits a home run.
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
suppose i should get a new sig then, huh
the phillies signed papelbon, and are now #1evilorg. the rockies have signed no one, but trading wiggy to the phillies totally makes it okay
PRMLB Arizona Diamondbacks GM
Hanley to Mets, Wright to Colorado, Miscellaneous to Miami
/It all makes sense now.
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
/it is a new beginning, right?
by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 4:17 PM MST via mobile reply actions
I could handle that
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huh what?
"Some guy on the net thinks I suck, and he should know - he's got his own blog." - Nick Hornby
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 6, 2011 4:24 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
This is one of the greatest Rockpiles of all time for all the wrong reasons
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by Muzia on Dec 6, 2011 4:26 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
torturous
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Dec 7, 2011 12:49 AM MST up reply actions
I'm going to air all my grievances about it right after I write that story about the Rockies trade of
Kevin Slowey, Tyler Chatwood and Jamie Hoffman to the Yankees for C.C. Sabathia that’s going down right now.
That would be a tremendous feat of strength by O'Dowd
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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Yankees won't do that deal
If only we still had Alan Johnson…
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
Do you have a link to that?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Dec 6, 2011 4:27 PM MST up reply actions
Huh... so pitchers like Juan Morillo, Jason Hirsh,
like Nate Field and Kevin Jarvis weren’t successful at Coors Field with their flyball rates. It’s a good thing they got out and rescued their careers, though…
…oh wait.
That whole every flyball pitcher is an auto-explosion at Coors thing...
kills me.
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
I'm not saying that Slowey's not going to suck, mind you
I’m just saying that if he does, it will have more to do with him being a crappy pitcher than his FB/GB rates. There’s a big problem of selection bias in the sample Waring looked at to write this.
It's the entire...
Park adjustments, H/R splits, FB/GB rates ONLY COUNT AT COORS thing…
Aaaaaarrrrrrgggggghhhhhh!!!!
Minne is short on starters and gave up Slowey for a PTBNL, it’s likely he’ll suck but just because he’s in Denver is not a guarantee.
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
Ken Rosenthal just reported that
Loria, Sampson and Hill is meeting Dan Halem of the Commissioner’s office.
Loria was asked if decision was in Pujols hands? Loria said, its not in his hands.
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My brain translated that to Lauryn Hill and I was very confused
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I was a fan
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A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
and the President of the Marlins just went into that office also.
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Hello?
Didi anyone else just have problems with PR?
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SBNation as a whole was barfing.
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wasn't sure if I got banned for something.
LOL. I know I didnt say anything wrong.
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if you were banned, you'd be sent a message saying "you're banned"
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 6, 2011 5:11 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
It was just taking forever.
Mind began to wonder.
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Is there anybody out there?
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Yea, but Im comfortably numb.
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by Roxman4ever on Dec 6, 2011 4:58 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
well played!
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Love that song.
74 today and 73 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
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just a little pinprick
There’ll be no more…..aahhhhhhhhhhhh
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but you may feel a little sick
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Don't know about Didi, but I couldn't post
Once I finally got in, one of those opinion surveys popped up. Nice timing… :lol:
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Yea I saw Didi after I hit post.
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How's she doing?
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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Well, LOL, it seems that PR is returning back to normal.
Wait, it was supposed to be Did.
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Is it just me and Cat in here right now?
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Yes :)
And I believe there’s some speculation that she doesn’t exist or is someone else’s alter-ego or something.
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
It got awfully quiet in here real quick.
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I've had some headaches off and on today :(
Is no bueno
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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Lie down with some excedrin and cool water...
with your eyes closed and some classical music. Always works for me.
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
Yeah...I've got to do better about
1) Staying hydrated
2) Resting my eyes
3) Sleeping better. Haven’t slept well the past couple of nights.
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sbn died
i figured i’d just let it sit while i played skyrim in the background
Fight fight fight
#StLCardinals make new offer to Pujols #MLB
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Word was that Miami had to beat the Cards offer by $40 mil and throw in a NTC to beat St. Lou.
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
Miami dont give out NTC's.
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This may be the reason that he don't sign with Miami.
Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Asked Samson if meeting was about no-trade. He said, “we don’t do no-trades.” #Marlins #MLB
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So, you see the problem?
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
Well, yea.
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I think Pujols or his agent...
Isn’t 100% that Miami’s legit and this spree won’t blow up like a Chinese fireworks factory.
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
So, a new phrase has entered the baseball lexicon....
“The White Sox are looking for a Ubaldo Jimenez package in return for John Danks,”
Definition: A haul of good young pitching.
O’Dowd must get a smile when he hears that phrase bandied about.
Steven Tyler would tell Kenny...
to Dream On.
heh heh heh, you said “package.”
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
The Royals are looking for a utility infielder.
Which one of ours can we send for a 2nd baseman?
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all of them?
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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figured that is what would be said.
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Utility would be Herrera's proper role
SO maybe him
but send Herrera away for a 2nd baseman.
Who do they have?
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Utility infielders are easy to find.
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
SEE 2012 DODGERS INFIELD
74 today and 73 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
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If they had a spare MLB second baseman worth trading,
they’d probably have no need for a utility infielder.
I just would like(as everyone else here) to see the rockies bring in a good 2nd baseman, if possible, to brighten our spirits a little bit.
74 today and 73 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training.
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So you're saying you want to receive a good 2nd baseman for a bench 2nd baseman...
Yeah, I imagine that would brighten our spirits a bit.
by Rox Girl on Dec 6, 2011 5:33 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
even if we don't get rid of Herrera or whoever.
I want an everyday 2nd baseman that can hit, and field.
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but no, not everybody wants him
I’ve wanted him for awhile now but i dont want the stat folks jumping all over me for it.
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and therw's that.
but maybe they had a guy who couldn’t field 3rd or short and wanted such a guy and had two 2b-only types. ’Course if my aunt ’ad bollocks…
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
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That meeting concerned how much of Pujols Miami deal...
The Cubs and Brewers would be allowed to chip in.
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The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
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There is smoke.
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The meeting of MLB official Dan Haslem and Marlins officials tonight was about the Pujols contract.
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Did SBNation take a dump again?
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Hate that when it happens.
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Hahaha
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If the Marlins sign Pujols to a 10-yr deal, then I’m buying a credit default swap on it.
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It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
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i think he stays in STL, personally
but i do kind of want him to go to miami, just to see that lineup
Marlins are being real pushy about it.
I’d tell them, “I’ll sign when I write my name on that piece of paper”! and when Im ready to sign.
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at that point
You see Miami walk away from the table and target Prince and all sense of bargaining power with St Louis go poof like magic. Dropping your pricetag probably 10-30% as you no longer have any competition to sign. Russian roulette, baseball hotstove style
Maybe Albert is waiting to see if STL comes back with a equal or better offer for him to stay.
Plus Miami isn’t giving out no trade clauses so. I bet STL would give one out.
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Not really sure what's going on there
There was some noise on Twitter about Pujols being an exception, but the Marlins president shot that down pretty quickly and said that they refuse to give any FA a NTC…
Which I don't understand.
It’s not like they would ever manage to trade him regardless. Might as well make it official.
Tweeted a minute ago from Joe Capozzi, Marlins beat writer for Palm Beach Post...
I’m told #marlins and agent for Albert Pujols have been together in meeting for past half hour
You are correct
But, if Miami is serious about walking away tonight if there is no deal, then what do you have to push St Louis with to get more?
St Louis reportedly just came back with another offer, exactly as you mentioned and probably exactly what Pujols is wanting. Pujols is simply playing each team off of the other to get the best contract. Where Pujols could lose BIG time is if Miami then backs out publicly.
What incentive does St Louis have to make that “best” offer then? There is none, price for Pujols goes down and he just lost the game of chicken
Well
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Source: #Rockies off Polanco. Don’t believe he can play second base. #MLB
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The Rockies really believe in Nolan Arenado.
It’s interesting that any position player pursuit will be at 2B for the team.
I kind of agree with it
I’m more confident with the internal candidates (Pacheco, Arenado, Stewart (for now)) than I am at 2nd.
me too, but the actions of the team early on conditioned us to look at available 3B's,
I guess what I’m saying now is that any outside 3B suggestion is probably moot.
Possible
My guess is they would love to upgrade both, but have 2B as a higher priority, and know that a doing both is probably unattainable. Possibly… Or perhaps they are close on Prado? That would be nice.
Well
weren’t we looking for Prado to play second anyway? Maybe third for a little bit but he was definitely getting time at second from my understanding.
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I don't see the
team acquiring a player at each position either but I thought they were looking for Prado to play 2B from the beginning and let the stop-gap/rotating 3B work itself out.
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Narrowing our focus
Pitching and 2B. At least we supposedly have a focus now.
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Well that sucks
I think he could play there, not as good as he once did but he could play
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yeah, why on earth would they think his ability to be an excellent 2B just vanished after playing 3B for a couple of years?
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 6, 2011 7:55 PM MST up reply actions
does our FO just think his 2B range disappeared or something?
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 7:56 PM MST up reply actions
well he hasn't played 2B since 2009
it’s a fair concern
UPDATE, 7:20 p.m. ET: The St. Louis Cardinals have made a new contract offer to Albert Pujols, general manager John Mozeliak said. He did not divulge the terms or when the team expects Pujols to make a decision, but it could be a matter of hours.
From USA Today
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 6:44 PM MST reply actions
I have a source with Mystery Team that says this is in fact not correct,
That instead their focusing on the secrets of the old clock, and are out of the running for Pujols.
Where is PHLP at?
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 6:48 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Am I the only one picturing
a bunch of GMs riding around in the Mystery Machine whilst hearing RUH-ROH?
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LOL. Rec'd
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wtf?
Third mystery team in on Pujols?
It’s not some local hack spewing a rumor he created himself either
Theo, you ain't foolin' no one.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 6:46 PM MST up reply actions
damn Phillies
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Now we know
why they want to move Polanco. Pujols can play third when Howard gets back. It all makes perfect sense now.
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oh god
it has to be the Cubbies
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wouldn't be much of a mystery team
Compared ot the phillies on lee, as they have been linked to Pujols all along. Rockies would work though
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I think the article mentioned that the Cubs did offer
but not for 10 years
stakes have been raised
trade Soriano to O’s, give up prospects
trade Garza for bounty of prospects
sign Pujols
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they're gonna trade Howard for him
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 6, 2011 7:56 PM MST up reply actions
Nightengale speculates
Mariners. Trading Justin Smoak could bring back another part. General manager Jack Zduriencik has been coy about the club’s plans, only acknowledging that they are in on fellow first baseman Prince Fielder and trying to stay under the radar.
Nationals. They have money to spend, a long-term need at first and young players in Ryan Zimmerman and Bryce Harper who could use an anchor like Pujols.
Orioles. This would be a true shocker, given that they’re years from contending, but it would jolt a franchise in need of one.
what about Micheal Morse?
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it's Albert Pujols.
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More speculation
Rangers. Texas would likely need to clear some payroll room to accommodate Pujols, but they also have veterans with decent trade value, such as Michael Young.
Talk about a freakin’ juggernaut…
He with the full no-trade clause now that he's 10/5
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hahahahaha
AnswerDave Dave Brown
Can I be sued if I RT this? RT @norunsupport: Jim Leyland has stolen a candy bar from hotel gift shop. Straight cruised past the register.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 6:51 PM MST reply actions
hilarious
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Dude what a narc!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nivQIgk2EKk
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 6:56 PM MST up reply actions
suspect is hatless, i repeat, hatless.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 6:59 PM MST up reply actions
yes.
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 6:59 PM MST up reply actions
considering it's already been broken twice today
Definitely
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No, silly goose,
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Omar Quintanilla and Seth Smith work here now?
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 6, 2011 7:02 PM MST up reply actions
Not at all
it’s franchise sucide
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Yeah
it’s a really long time.
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I could mostly understand it were he younger.
I mean, we sorta did the same thing with Tulo. So it’s not so much the length of the contract (though that’s less than ideal) but his age that’s the biggest issue.
Exactly
His ending age >40 is more than I would do. If he was still going strong, or even good at 37 a one or two year extension would work but 10 from the get-go is a long time from now.
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Paying for those years after 37 are the cost of obtaining the years before, though.
It’s why locking superstars up really early (ala Tulo/Cargo) for the exact time you want them makes much more sense.
Which is why
I like what we’ve done with Helton lately. He played well in 2007 and 2009 and then he re-worked his contract. I think if they had just signed him through 2010 or 2011 and gone year-to-year it would have worked but he also wasn’t 30 when he signed his original contract.
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.
Alfonso Soriano lf
8 years/$136M (2007-14)
8 years/$136M (2007-14)
signed by Cubs as a free agent 11/06
$8M signing bonus
07:$9M, 08:$13M, 09:$16M, 10-14:$18M annually
full no-trade clause
award bonuses: $0.25M for top vote-getter in All-Star balloting, $0.35M for World Series MVP, $0.25M for LCS MVP, $0.3M for MVP, $75,000 for Gold Glove
perks: suite on road trips, 6 premium tickets for each home game (spring training – post-season) and All Star Game (if Soriano is selected)
Soriano to donate $25,000 annually to both United Way & Cubs Care
1 year/$10M (2006)
re-signed 2/06, lost arbitration ($12M-$10M)
1 year/$7.5M (2005), avoided arbitration 1/05
1 year/$5.4M (2004), avoided arbitration 1/04
1 year/$0.8M (2003)
5 years/$3.15M (1998-2002)
signed by NY Yankees as a free agent 3/98
“retired” 3/98 after 2 years with Hiroshima in order to play in U.S.
agent: Diego Bentz, SFX (formerly Don Nomura)
ML service: 11.079
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Those perks are pretty nice
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This is all making me believe Loria is setting things up for an eventual sale
First he built the stadium (with other peoples money nonetheless), then he builds up the team, plays it out for a season or two as allowing the value of the organization to theoretically grow, and then he sells for a handsome gain and leaving the mess of contracts to whoever is next in line for ownership.
Just because it's crazy, doesn't mean it's not true.
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Rockies out of the Polanco Sweepstakes
https://twitter.com/#!/Ken_Rosenthal/status/144229897081073665
Another team gets a closer (Mets sign Rauch)
Were they ever in on the streetstakes?
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I think they were actually
Except Street and their pitching coach (Geren) hate each other
This made it pretty unlikely with them
Once they hired Geren, they were pretty much out of the picture on Street.
just did some background research
I had no idea Street despised him that way
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My respect for Huston Street increased dramatically in the last 5 minutes
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He's still considered a closer?
Last year was a down year for him but he has been slipping a little lately
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Renck seems to think so
Yes…RT @metsguy234: I know you’re not on the Mets beat but do you really think they’d slot Rauch as the closer?
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Use the little blue quote marks button. Either click that first and than paste your quote in between the tags, or past the quote first and then highlight it and click the button.
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Got it Thanks!
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well done
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Another way to do it
is to look down below on the main comment window where it has a formatting guide.
If you type bq. before a phrase it block quotes it as well
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so like this
Is this how its done? Hope it works
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HOT DAMN! LOOKY THERE!
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This should be green
that it’ll make you sick.
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glad they typed the bq. thing.
Had no idea how to do the other way
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so many jokes....so little time
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In Queens he is.
It’s kind of like the difference between the Canadian Football League and the NFL there.
by Rox Girl on Dec 6, 2011 7:11 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe the mets are still in on these streetstakes
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#mets working to acquire another reliever in addition to rauch. Also have multi-player trade in works
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Street hates Geren
even the Mets wouldn’t jeopardize a season on a hated pitcher/pitching coach relationship
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Methinks you're underestimating the stupidity of the Mets
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what kind of world is it
When the mets angels and cubs make shrewd decisions
and the marlins overspend like crazy
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this, is the question
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The fun thing about a myster team
it could be anyone, you never know!
This comment is brought to you by captain obvious and general no shit.
That is funny. Way to scare off readers and AFLAC customers. All at the same time.
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This one is pretty funny:
WE, THE MEDIA, ARE REPORTING THAT THE MARLINS HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT. WHAT WOULD YOU DO WITHOUT US?
the series after Olney mistakenly reported HanRam signed with the Mets (instead of Reyes) was classic
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i just followed him because of this comment
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It's amazing that I can be exciting by a stark post saying that the marlins expect a resolution by the end of the night
maybe then i can get back to writing that term paper….
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This tells me that something is up
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#Marlins just emerged from meeting with Lozano. Samson: "Nothing to report
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Of course not
They would want to make a big deal about it, not just tell 10 guys there with their phones out trying to be the first to tweet it
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Jon_Heyman
#mets working to acquire another reliever in addition to rauch. Also have multi-player trade in works
posted that above
Multi-player deal……What other reliever that requires a multiplayer deal is out there?
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yep.
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I read that as two separate trades, no?
Although I agree Bailey is a good get for Mets.
by BostonTransplant on Dec 6, 2011 7:27 PM MST up reply actions
Keep tipping the bottles boys.
You;ll get it figured out.
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Finally! Some real action on twitter
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85$ on medicine who knew getting healthy was so expensive
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Oil Rigs
really aren’t that healthy of an environment.
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I asked Scahill
rscahill53 Rob Scahill
@JBRoxFan its the minor league health plan through the Rockies the coverage is good just expensive meds I guess
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Interesting
I’m a health policy nerd, and it’s kind of interesting that there is a MiLB overall health plan. Wonder how it works for guys who bounce up and down between AAA and MLB.
by BostonTransplant on Dec 6, 2011 7:37 PM MST up reply actions
ooooohhh action!
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#Mets near trade described as “change of scenery” deal both ways. They are getting 2-for-1. Rauch 1 yr pending phys. Another RP on way. #MLB
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I was just about to comment that it wasn't haha
He had a rough year, but I don’t think there’s a lack of trust between Tracy and Street that would make it a true “change of scenery” deal like, say, Stewart
Ah. I see
What change of scenery closer is there? Bailey seems like a value guy, not a burned bridges one.
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Rafael Soriano is the first guy that comes to mind for me
but he’s not going anywhere with that contract
uehara?
not really a closer, though….
Yes. Mets won't trade for him.
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Yeah but he's exactly what we're NOT looking for
Another outfielder, huge contract. Unless we’re trading a couple of our other OF’s for something. Blackmon, Wheeler, and pitcher-of-your-choice for Gio?
by BostonTransplant on Dec 6, 2011 7:36 PM MST up reply actions
This ought to be interesting
/because little else is right now outside of Albert
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and we get Wright.
I can dream
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Who on Mets is "in need of a change of scenery"?
Better not be Pelfrey. There does come a point when you do have “too much pitching”.
by BostonTransplant on Dec 6, 2011 7:32 PM MST up reply actions
DANIEL MURPHY!
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Hmm ....
Street and one of our 17 AAAA pitchers for Murphy? That would work.
by BostonTransplant on Dec 6, 2011 7:34 PM MST up reply actions
and he can play 2nd
Send Slowey or Chatwood their way also
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can we stop including Slowey or Chatwood in trades?
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Tulo....Just for you. LOL
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go from the coast to the mountains
thats a change of scenery
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bay
pagan maybe, though he’s not worth a 2-1
Pagan makes sense
They say they plan on tendering him a contract, due to lack of other option in CF, but that could be all talk to enable them to work a trade.
Again, this is what Joel Sherman, reporter from the Mets, is just tweeting:
The #Mets aren’t talking to #Rockies about Street, largely because his bad relationship with former #A’s mgr Geren, now Mets bench coach
Please can we kill that discussion?
Now Esmil Rogers, though, there’s a change of scenery guy…
definitely the closer type sherman was talking about
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It has to be another guy that lost his job in the last year or so,
it has to be someone relatively cheap in contract cost.
Thornton? That would be my guess.
Thornton is relatively cheap?
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I don't know, I'm up late
I actually forgot what he was signed for. If he’s not cheap, the Chisox are screwed.
between $12m and 17m for the next three years
if you include the 2014 option
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TroyRenck Troy Renck, Rockies
I don’t know the mystery team. Forced to guess, I would say Angels, Rangers, Cubs. But that’s just a guess, nothing more
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I can imagine the Angels, for sure
It’s only $6 million or so more than they threw at CJ Wilson.
by BostonTransplant on Dec 6, 2011 7:52 PM MST up reply actions
Trumbo and Morales already
It’s hard to imagine them going all in when they already have the position set.
Well, it is Albert Pujols
I’m sure the nice Mssrs Trumbo and Morales can DH or find another home.
by BostonTransplant on Dec 6, 2011 7:56 PM MST up reply actions
Pretty much.
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Guess you're wrong?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 6, 2011 8:59 PM MST up reply actions
Very unlikely
Not Anthopoulos’ style at all.
by BostonTransplant on Dec 6, 2011 7:57 PM MST up reply actions
BREAKING:
Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
It appears #Rockies are mystery team for Pujols. Want him for a year or two at 3B and then to take over for Helton. #MLB
How much would Purple Row explode if I wasn’t full of it on this one?
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your kidding right?
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Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
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yea, I know
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo&feature=related
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hahaha holy crap
You should have left out the sentence about being full of it just to see the responses
Don't ban me please. LOL. I'm guilty. It an honest mistake
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To be honest
reading the quote, I thought it was real at first. After checking twitter thrice, I re-read the post and saw the text on the bottom. I was once banned for something like that.
Only thing I saw was
Would the Purple Row explode? I thought, oh geez, what would I do then?
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That's the problem with this time of year,
as well as just under eight months from now, and why I’d probably be a little more lenient with the naive saps, maybe a night ban rather than a week or whatever for the perpetrator.
I think MLB rumors create manic behavior not dissimilar to stock market panics, gold rushes and riots. I think humans might be hard-wired in situations like this to believe things that would normally send up enough logic flags in their brains to stop them
missed this important part
if I wasn’t full of it on this one?
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No.
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Giants beat writer Andrew Baggarty
Giants trade proposal believed to be Andres Torres and Ramon Ramirez to the Mets for Angel Pagan. Not definite, but promising.
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Get one closer
you don’t need another
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good BP guy
I actually like this deal for both sides, and I’m surprised the Mets would take on those salaries
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It's better for NY than SF from a talent perspective, but Pagan's hard to figure out.
With our luck he’ll be Torres redux.
Agreed, but it's a pretty sound trade idea for both
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Pagan's a change of scenery guy?
A bit of a down year this year, but I’ve gotten the impression that the Mets are pretty content with his play overall
You've gotten the wrong impression, then if Mets fans are any indication.
There is much discontent among the Flushing Faithful.
Hmm. Good to know.
Moot point anyway, now that it’s done
Well, that's a big fat nothingburger of a trade
Sheesh.
by BostonTransplant on Dec 6, 2011 7:54 PM MST up reply actions
and its done
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Whoa. It's done, per Sherman
Can confirm that #Mets deal of Pagan to #Giants for Torres and Ramirez is done
Seems like a loser for Giants
Ramirez, IIRC, is pretty damn good. Not sure Pagan is really much to write home about. Eh, OK, I’ll call it a wash.
by BostonTransplant on Dec 6, 2011 7:59 PM MST up reply actions
My Magic McCovey Chronicles response ball says that they will respond with:
CYNICISM
Of course, I just painted the word “CYNICISM” on a ping pong ball and call that my Magic McCovey Chronicles response ball.
by Rox Girl on Dec 6, 2011 8:01 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
pretty much
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JFK
That means...
Giants won’t be re-signing Beltran then. I’m beginning to like this offseason even more.
Pagan/Cabrera/Huff OF
Eh.
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AAA!
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Any excuse not to play him
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
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At least all three HAVE hit at some point in their career
I think better than what they started 2011 with. Not saying much.
by BostonTransplant on Dec 6, 2011 8:03 PM MST up reply actions
Heres some insight
Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman
@Ken_Rosenthal said #Mets rlf target is “change scenery guy.” These are JUST GUESSES, but Jenks and Kevin Gregg fall into that
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hahhaaha Kevin Gregg.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 7:47 PM MST up reply actions
Realistically only teams out there for Street are Red Sox and Reds
Angels say they want a closer, but already have one really and seem more interested in cheap veteran RH arms. Plus unless they’re unloading Kendrick we’re not really interested in what they’re selling. Reds in the same boat.
I think if we’re going to trade Street it pretty much as to be Red Sox. I’m sure I’m missing somebody though. White Sox?
by BostonTransplant on Dec 6, 2011 7:51 PM MST reply actions
Didn't even follow him before tonight
but he made my day
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#Angels already drawing trade interest in E. Santana in anticipation of possible C.J. Wilson signing. #MLB
Sigh….
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that would be a plain filthy rotation in Anaheim
for many, many years
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for one year, at least
isn’t haren FA after 2012?
I know, right
But based on how the Angels valued Iannetta, not sure we would have won those sweepstakes anyway. We could possibly still do it if we were willing to trade Dex.
by BostonTransplant on Dec 6, 2011 7:55 PM MST up reply actions
Crazy Idea...
Marlins trade Hanley Ramirez and Gaby Sanchez to Anaheim for Hank Conger, Mark Trumbo, Ervin Santana.
Marlins then go out and sign Aramis Ramirez and bow out of the Pujols sweepstakes.
Angels trade Erik Aybar to the Rockies for Blackmon and Street.
Too much time on my hand as I put off studying, I am sure I will look back on this and question what I was thinking.
King's pawn to knight three
O’Dowd’s had that in mind since the beginning of the off-season. Just needed all the pieces to fall into place …
by BostonTransplant on Dec 6, 2011 8:00 PM MST up reply actions
That Mets/Giants deal is done.
Angel Pagan for Ramon Ramirez and Andres Torres
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The #Mets and Frank Francisco have agreed to a 2-year deal, pending a physical.
That’s actually a MLB caliber bullen now
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Good
Another “closer” off the board. Only Cordero and K-Rod left as FA’s, and one or both of them may actually accept arbitration.
Unfortunately, also not many teams left looking, either.
by BostonTransplant on Dec 6, 2011 8:06 PM MST up reply actions
I meant Madson there
But Cordero sucks.
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you recognized him?
I know ball players well enough to know i was staying at the SF Giants hotel, but not that well
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Tim Lincecum wasn't hard to notice
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from the smoke trail?
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the smell
That and the four red bulls he was drinking within hours of his start. He pitched horrible
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He had a team duffle bag with his name/number on it.
I think this was when he was with the Rangers, and I remembered him from the folding chair incident.
Minor league filler for David Wright.
Come on, Dan.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 8:10 PM MST up reply actions
2 yrs / $12M
ahahahahaha
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 8:12 PM MST up reply actions
Thats the mets i know
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Oy.
In this market, that’s not bad. But still. Oy.
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can "Frank Francisco money" be a new level of relief pitcher salary?
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 8:17 PM MST up reply actions
This could also open up Beltran to go to another team
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SF as much as said they weren't going to pay Beltran
He’s an interesting case, if the Red Sox won’t bite. Wonder who will grab him and for how much?
by BostonTransplant on Dec 6, 2011 8:02 PM MST up reply actions
Finals or Hot Stove?
Anyone else having this dilemma
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/raises hand
I have a final project to finish and my OOTP team to update tonight
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O shit, forgot to update ootp
New Priorities
1. OOTP update
2. Check for major news
3. English
4. Check for minor news
Well that solves that problem
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I won't have time to get to it before7pm tomorrow
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23 hours
"Some guy on the net thinks I suck, and he should know - he's got his own blog." - Nick Hornby
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I updated mine Sunday, because I won't be home til 9 tomorrow
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 6, 2011 8:08 PM MST up reply actions
my dilemma involes
being out of wine and no easy way to get more
/first world problems
2011 - not even light can escape
by Rosenort on Dec 6, 2011 8:07 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah............
It also looks like the madness that is the shortened NBA offseason is about to get underway as well.
that thing is going to be crazy
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Graduate application season for me.
Thankfully, no pressure during this specific week, though I am neglecting my editing duties.
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Dude, MEEEE!!!
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Interesting.
The Marlins and Cardinals share Spring training facilities.
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and they open the season in Miami.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 8:13 PM MST up reply actions
BWAHAHAHAHAHA
TrippingOlney
HEARD THIS: METS WILL OPEN 2012 SEASON WITH A ROSTER OF DAVID WRIGHT AND 24 RELIEF PITCHERS.
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Person involved in talks tells me #Cubs definitely in on Pujols, so he might go to #Marlins (cont))
Called it.
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Glad this isnt a cardinals sight
or my laptop wouldve exploded
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wow
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he's taking his talents
to South Beach.
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The Decision Part II?
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i bet he ends up in Miami
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I still say STL
but the Marlins are making a push, and the Cubs are making it expensive for their rivals
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not before I did.
Theo, you ain’t foolin’ no one.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 8:46 PM EST
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
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Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 6, 2011 8:40 PM MST up reply actions
Since we are out on Polanco...
anybody on our radar besides Prado and possibly Lowrie (not to be confused with Lawrie)?
heard
Ian Stewart for Pedro Alvarez somewhere a while back. I wouldn’t mind that deal.
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haven't been connected to kelly johnson
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Tulsa Drillers:
In unprecedented move @TulsaDrillers sign Pujols to play 1st 2nd & 3rd & @domingobeisbol to cover the outfield.
Just as long as the Rockies can call him up
not Albert. this is Giants 3B coact Luis Pujols.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 8:19 PM MST up reply actions
*coach
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 8:20 PM MST up reply actions
By Rockies
I assume you mean the Grand Junction Rockies, and by up I assume you mean down?
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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I was over at Amazin Avenue and asked them what it would take for Wright? Here was their response. This is not a joke
We will take
Bumgarner and Lincecum+cash
I wanted to hit the floor laughing.
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at this point the Mets should just go full on dumpster fire and get rid of everyone and rebuild.
and please toss a few Giants fans into the burning dumpster while at it.
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I can't believe that perosn actually thought we had the Bum and Timmeh
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person*
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seriously
even i’m off that old horse….
I was always against it
but can I jump on it now?
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LOL
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I promise to ride that horse until it turns to glue
like Greg Smith
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yea, I was over there reading and they said gave up one player to get 2 players.
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Wright is going nowhere
and if he does, Colorado is probably 30th on the list. Yes 30th. The Mets would sooner trade Wright to themselves. No Wright. No. No. No.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 6, 2011 8:27 PM MST up reply actions
can we trade tulo to ourselves?
i think assets like drew pomeranz, nolan arenado, and wilin rosario are exactly what this team needs in the future
c'mon
you know we don’t trade top prospects
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That ship sailed a few MONTHS ago
Actually, that ship probably never existed.
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
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Arenado kind of killed our hopes
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Uhhh he's my #1 hope at this moment
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Hope #2 must feel a little jobbed.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 6, 2011 8:39 PM MST up reply actions
Nick Schnaitmann will survive
He always somehow does.
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despite my best efforts
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 6, 2011 10:53 PM MST up reply actions
Yes, but it was Chris Iannetta...
badabump-de-bump bump, cymbal crash.
I’ll be here all night, folks.
mine also. I meant by that.
When Nolan was doing his thing. He became the one everyone wanted
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He's Obi-wan Kenobi?
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Dec 6, 2011 10:24 PM MST up reply actions
Arenado killed any desire we had to acquire Wright
To be honest, I know which one I’d rather have for the next 5 years and it ain’t David Wright.
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
But then.
One person said Pomeranz and Rosario for Wright.
One said Tulo+cash and then Pomeranz.
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Morosi:
#DBacks have offered LHP Joe Saunders a two-year contract, source confirms.
That likely means no Kuroda for them if Saunders signs.
Kuroda should still have plenty of suitors though
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he does, I didn't mean to imply that this increased the Rockies chances to sign him.
It was more like thank god the D-backs might not be getting even better.
Saunders would have been in that rotation anyway, yeah?
Or are you referring to rotations in 2013+?
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 6, 2011 8:34 PM MST up reply actions
I'm referring to the money available for their rotation,
they probably won’t have enough for both Saunders and Kuroda according to reports that I’ve read.
i would assume not
since 2 year contracts are now worth $12 mil
So you feel they'd have traded Saunders had they signed Kuroda?
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 6, 2011 8:38 PM MST up reply actions
That was the indication I was getting.
Towers was saying that they came back to him when they started getting the prices on the FA market for the guys they were interested in. They seemed to be really surprised that there was as much demand for Buehrle as there was.
Gotcha.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 6, 2011 8:45 PM MST up reply actions
If Pujols leaves St. L. I'll be baffled.
There’s almost no rational argument for leaving that team.
- They’re (obviously) a championship caliber team
- There’s nothing he won’t be able to buy making $22 mil per for 10 years in Fla that he can’t already buy at $20 mil for 9 yrs in St Louis. At some point, you just have “enough” money
and most significantly….
- He is the oh-so-rare situation of being an athlete with the potential to own a city for a generation. And America’s most baseball-crazed city at that. He’ll be right there with Musial. They’ll name bridges after him. He’ll be linked to that city in the way Jeter is to NY or Tony Gwynn is to SD…or John Elway is here. Why throw that away to become another traveling superstar?
He’s got it all — championships, more money than he can spend and the love of a great sports city. Why would he leaves that behind?
mostly agreed
but the no-sales-tax in Florida always makes them attractive to free agents. Their contracts are worth 8-10% more
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Yeah but, again....
unless he’s living a ridiculously extravagant lifestyle (or is planning on it) does it really matter? If you pulling in anywhere over, say, 15 mil per, isn’t it all pretty much the same?
Is he clipping coupons with the Cards offer while living large in FLA?
we're talking 35-40mil in absolute value over the life of a contract
that’s enough to make me pause
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Maybe, but again...
what can it buy him that he wouldn’t otherwise be able to afford?
I know it’s laughable to say, in a sports contract scenario, that there are things more importation than money. And there hardly ever are, at it usually turns out. But being the all-time face of one of baseball’s most storied franchises? That’s utterly priceless, and only available to a small handful of players each generation.
He has that in his hands now. I wouldn’t sell it for a $100 million. But that’s me, I guess.
Yep, he's good and set already. I find it hard to imagine that $$ would be the reason to leave.
Just not sure what else it might be.
Right. That's what I meant. Multitasking tonight
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So, Marco Scutaro, anyone?
https://twitter.com/#!/jonmorosi/status/144203189716131840
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 6, 2011 8:44 PM MST up reply actions
at least for twitter
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 6, 2011 8:45 PM MST up reply actions
For formatting reasons, yes, especially Twitter.
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by Greg Stanwood on Dec 6, 2011 8:45 PM MST up reply actions
here you go
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/scutama01.shtml
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I could go for Scutaro
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Scutaro's older and has always been a SS
I think for team chemistry reasons I’d rather have Lowrie, although Scutaro’s probably the better player (for now).
by BostonTransplant on Dec 6, 2011 8:58 PM MST up reply actions
LOL
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Meta moves will play on new York talk radio tomorrow like Giants’ blown playoff lead to 49ers. Run for cover.
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Must be really bored today
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better than signing someone for multiple years
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crawling back to the pirates after failing as a brave?
i’d say that’s lol-worthy
better than signing Ty Wigginton for multiple years
:(
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 9:00 PM MST up reply actions
It's a smart little move, I think
He fell off a cliff in Atl, so maybe a return to where he did some damage will revive him.
this could be awhile...
/orders pizza
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I wouldn't care.
Makes Gaby Sanchez more valuable to me in fantasy. He could become possible trade bait if the price is right.
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Makes a ton of sense to me
Much more than the Cubs.
by BostonTransplant on Dec 6, 2011 9:00 PM MST up reply actions
there is this:
Jon_Heyman Jon Heyman
#reds talking to #rays about tampas starters. Have inquired on james shields. price tag surely high. Davis, niemann not as high
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 6, 2011 9:00 PM MST reply actions
We don't have what Tampa wants
I think that’s a non-starter. Again, this is assuming the FO is on the level when it says it won’t trade Fowler.
by BostonTransplant on Dec 6, 2011 9:04 PM MST up reply actions
Yup
Cheap, young, big bats who don’t play either 2B or 3B. Fowler might work. Can’t see what else, not even Arenado (because of Longoria).
by BostonTransplant on Dec 6, 2011 10:01 PM MST up reply actions
Wow. Things just came to a dead stop on here
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No comments for six whole minutes!
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 6, 2011 9:30 PM MST up reply actions
lunch time
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
by waterboy31321 on Dec 7, 2011 11:49 AM MST up reply actions
Mystery team
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Taylor Bucholz is a free agent.
Opinions?
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If he was?
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He has had a lot of anxiety and depression issues.
Hopefully he can work through them and return, but I’m not sure.
What's it matter? He's not
What if Grady Sizemore or Dustin Moseley were healthy?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 6, 2011 10:21 PM MST up reply actions
We definitely wouldn't have had a shot
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So does everyone just go to sleep at a certain hour at these meetings?
Was the same last night.
Anyone seriously expect Rox to do anything significant? I don’t. I think we don’t sell Street until the arbitration decision date, because the last two FA closers, K-Rod and Madson, might just accept, and that affects the market big-time. I want to believe we’re getting rid of Street in order to clear payroll for some other move, but right now I just can’t picture what that might be. Maybe Cuddyer, and trade Smith for the best package of prospects? I wouldn’t mind that, but it’s so not DoD style. More likely we eat some of Street’s salary and get a decent ML player in return, call it a day. I dunno. Or more dumpster diving, sell Street for prospects, and go into 2012 with a lower payroll than 2011. Man would THAT make he happy to pay higher ticket prices.
by BostonTransplant on Dec 6, 2011 10:10 PM MST reply actions
Lots of smoke surrounding a Street trade.
Purely based on that, I think something gets done this week.
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by CentralCaliRox on Dec 6, 2011 10:11 PM MST up reply actions
oh man smoke that must mean lincecum is around
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 6, 2011 10:55 PM MST up reply actions
also I agree
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 6, 2011 10:55 PM MST up reply actions
LOL.
Best pict at #WinterMeetings RT @joecapMARLINS: @Ken_Rosenthal tethered to wall while charging battery & chasing news http://twitpic.com/7pm6yd
Hanging out in the lobby just watching all the baseball writers would be pretty funny, I think.
That would be a lot of fun
I also like to people watch anyway so it would be great.
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From Danny Knobler:
Rival execs think Colo’s Geivett is favorite for Astros GM job. Could be done soon.
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I certainly didn’t expect to see 1000+ comments of this.
I would say well done, but.
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
is that a new language?
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Yes, and unfortunately I don't understand it.
I thought 2011 sucked pretty bad. I have nothing to add to that.
by prettyinpurple on Dec 8, 2011 12:58 AM MST up reply actions
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