Friday Rockpile: John Maine In, Joe Crede Out, Joey Williamson Somewhere In Between
The Rockies organization looks a bit different than it did yesterday, with planned AAA third baseman Joe Crede informing the team that he would not be reporting to camp for Spring Training, for motivations unknown. The Rockies released Crede, leaving Eric Duncan and Matt Macri as the primary competitors for the Sky Sox third base spot in 2011, though Chris Nelson may find himself time there as well.
Coverage:
- Steve Foster of Inside the Rockies
- Troy Renck of the Denver Post
Joining Colorado's list of non-roster invitees is RHP John Maine, signed to a minor league contract after a disastrous turn from what originally seemed to be the start to a promising career forced the Mets' hands to the non-tender option last offseason. Though Maine's health and condition are suspect after a drop in the quality of both every year of his MLB career, he provides yet another solid depth option, though his potential presence at AAA Colorado Springs adds to an already crowded pool of candidates for the back end of that rotation. Maine has a minor league out clause at some point early in the season, and will make $3 million if he makes the team.
Coverage:
- Steve Foster of Inside the Rockies
- Troy Renck of the Denver Post (same article as above)
- Jerry Crasnick of ESPN.com
Other news items after the jump.
Inside the Rockies teases their newest Farm Report, which in addition to prospects Tyler Matzek and Juan Nicasio, will cover the return to baseball of formerly retired minor leaguer Joey Williamson, as well as profile former PuRP Darin Holcomb as he tries to bounce back from chronic, potentially career ending back issues. The full issue will be sent to ItR sponsors on Monday the 21st.
Troy Renck and Jim Armstrong's excellent coverage of Spring Training continues with new articles on Ian Stewart and Wilin Rosario, along with new videos of the catchers taking fielding practice and the Rockies weight room, all accessible here.
Thomas Harding of MLB.com provides an article on Jorge De La Rosa, visa issue now resolved and ready to get to work. In the article, De La Rosa affirms his desire to play for the Colorado Rockies.
"I like Denver, and the coaches know me. This is where I started doing better in my career." - Jorge De La Rosa
Detroit Tigers' first baseman Miguel Cabrera has been charged with driving under the influence while in Florida for Spring Training. Noah Trister of the Assosiated Press, via the Denver Post, has a story.
My final Offseason Handbook article on the organizational depth should be coming early next week.
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I honestly don't know why John Maine is a starter...
He averages about 20 pitches per inning and hardly ever gives you more than 5 innings per start. He’s like a less talented/less reliable scott kazmir. I would rather see him utilized as a long reliever, but his high BB/9 rates really concern me, especially if he’s inheriting any runners.
I'm not worried about Maine.
He won’t be starting unless Cook/Hammel/Paulino/Rogers completely implode during the spring or get injured. He might be the best 8th starter in the league though!
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by BittenAnkles on Feb 18, 2011 7:47 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah and after seeing how much he makes if he makes the team
I don’t see him making it under very many circumstances except 2-3 of those guys you mentioned above getting injured/imploding and Maine having a solid spring.
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 7:52 AM MST up reply actions
His splits by pitch count are interesting
Looks like he needs awhile to get going.
Pitches 1-25: .729 OPS
Pitches 25-50: .590 OPS
It then bumps up to .770 and .769 for the next two intervals. He’s only made it past 101 pitches in 56 of his 105 career starts.
In other words
Wear him out more in the bullpen before coming into a game and then give him 1-2 innings of work before he falls apart. Might be time for him to move to the bullpen.
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 8:46 AM MST up reply actions
with his shoulder history, that's a likely destination if he wants to continue pitching
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Nice to see Stewart making big adjustments
and realizing that e need to fix his swing. First step in improving is realizing you need improvement. And after the wonderful 3-part review here I think that 1 foot movement is perfect he really won’t have to change how he looks at pitches. If it moves his swing zone in a foot with it, he’ll be covering the plate fine. Now he just has to make sure he’s still not trying to pull everything, and I think that might be the more difficult change.
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 7:57 AM MST reply actions
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by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 8:00 AM MST reply actions
This Miguel Cabrera situation does not look good
I seriously hope he gets some help.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 18, 2011 8:44 AM MST reply actions
Agreed, I also hope that justice does not take it easy on him
Right now he should be thankful that he got stopped before he hit someone.
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 8:47 AM MST up reply actions
Agreed
When you take a swig of scotch in front of an officer, you’ve got a serous problem.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 18, 2011 9:04 AM MST up reply actions
Yeap
either he was so drunk he didn’t realize what was going on, which is a possibility. Or he has no regard for the law which could be evident in his “do you know who I am statement”
Either way it’s a serious problem that needs to be taken care of before he’s allowed to play baseball again, right now his career should be taking a backseat to getting his life straightened out.
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 9:06 AM MST up reply actions
I saw that suggestion yesterday
and I don’t think you need to be drunk, or even necessarily powerful, to use the “do you know who I am” line.
David Wells was a phenomenal pitcher, but being an SP really lends itself to that lifestyle. Everyday 1B probably not so much.
I was offering more of a reason for why he so blatantly took a swig of scotch in front of the officer
and using the do you know statement as more of backup evidence to one of the arguments.
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 9:52 AM MST up reply actions
What kind of scotch?
just wunderin’
Glennfiddich, Glennlivett? anything Glenn? I wouldn’t pour those out either.
I love Scotch, Scotchy scotch scotch.
Lets just keep it in the living room or Den, not so much behind the wheel.
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by El Paso Jeff on Feb 18, 2011 10:12 AM MST up reply actions
Glennbeck.
Just an average guy with exceptional hair. Nothing more, nothing less.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Feb 18, 2011 11:39 AM MST up reply actions
Not my favorite
the tears water it down and make it salty
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by Junction Rox on Feb 18, 2011 11:47 AM MST up reply actions
well done sir
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by El Paso Jeff on Feb 18, 2011 11:49 AM MST up reply actions
not to mention....
it’s been said you can find the truth at the bottom of a bottle of scotch. Not so with Glennbeck.
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by Mondogarage on Feb 18, 2011 12:40 PM MST up reply actions
Plus, if you drink it, it makes you do and say crazy things.
Enough of this offseason rubbish already! Let's play some ball!
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by DAWNMARIE01 on Feb 18, 2011 12:41 PM MST up reply actions
he's a lost cause imho
We’ve already been through this before with M-Cab. He promised that he was clean and sober. He ‘cleaned’ himself up. Guess not….
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by Hollidayrain on Feb 18, 2011 9:08 AM MST up reply actions
it's not that easy, though.
The guy needs help, and likely cannot get it while inside baseball’s culture.
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that's a fair point
Either way, he’s throwing his life away right now….SO much talent to waste too
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by Hollidayrain on Feb 18, 2011 9:11 AM MST up reply actions
And he still insists he's not an alcoholic
Until you make that first breakthrough, you’re not going to change.
Best hope is probably a court-ordered 90 day mandatory in patient program in Florida. I can say that the Florida justice system won’t be coddling him like Michigan’s did. Down there, no one could care less that he’s a Detroit Tiger.
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He's not an alcoholic
He’s a drunk! Alcoholics go to meetings!
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First time/long time
maine doesn’t really seem have a place in the organization. ’pen is too crowded, rotation is crowded until something goes terribly wrong
you still have to play the game, no matter how shiny liriano's FIP is
tulo and bambino - september kings
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Really funny sig lines
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 18, 2011 9:02 AM MST up reply actions
And AAA s crowded too
I think that if everyone stays healthy Maine’s cut come Regular season time. This was just a low risk move to have ST depth.
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 9:07 AM MST up reply actions
You don't think they'll cut someone like Andy Graham or Ching Lung Lo?
by Andrew Martin on Feb 18, 2011 9:41 AM MST up reply actions
Depends, I don't know how the organization feels about them I guess
I don’t think they’ll keep Maine around if he doesn’t show something, he has a pretty definite ceiling and it seems to be in the past.
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 9:50 AM MST up reply actions
Maybe but he IS still just 29 years old.
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by CentralCaliRox on Feb 18, 2011 9:53 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
if Maine is healthy, he's a solid mid rotation starter
he has more potential than anyone in the Springs projected rotation not named Friedrich
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I agree,
you dont win 15 games with out talent
I likes this signing, It seems to me Maine has frustrated the Rockies before, but then again when we are in NY, everyone frustrates the Rox
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by El Paso Jeff on Feb 18, 2011 10:09 AM MST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that wins are overrated.
Good pitching will beat good hitting any time, and vice versa. ~Bob Veale, 1966
by pedalpusher on Feb 18, 2011 10:30 AM MST up reply actions
look, I bit my tongue so I wouldn't squelch the conversation, alright?
by Andrew Martin on Feb 18, 2011 10:36 AM MST up reply actions
sorry. didn't mean to touch a nerve there.
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by pedalpusher on Feb 18, 2011 10:48 AM MST up reply actions
oh, no
there really needs to be a “tone of voice” tag on the internets. It was a lighthearted comment.
by Andrew Martin on Feb 18, 2011 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
well it wasn't even meant to be sarcasm
it was meant to be “I hate pitching wins and wish that people wouldn’t cite them, but I’m not going to derail the John Maine discussion into another Pitching Wins R Dum debate”
And then I proceeded to derail it anyhow
by Andrew Martin on Feb 18, 2011 11:35 AM MST up reply actions
I understood,
Its just the thing that came to mind, regardless of how appropriate it was.
My brain hurts.
Agreed in his 1 peak year
15 wins he was 1.8 WAR. They Year before and after he had a 1 WAR. NOt exactly a high ceiling.
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 10:43 AM MST up reply actions
i totally forgot about that
I hate wins. They are soooooooooooooooooo stoopid
AMart you continue biting your tongue,Sir
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by El Paso Jeff on Feb 18, 2011 11:33 AM MST up reply actions
I was going to insert a picture of Alan Johnson
but after googling “Alan Johnson Sky Sox,” I didn’t find any photos that were obviously him.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 18, 2011 10:24 AM MST up reply actions
I don't even think I would recognize him. How sad.
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by Charlie77 on Feb 18, 2011 12:08 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I'm surprised he signed here as well
The Phillies would have more of an opportunity than we would.
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Yeah exactly.
This is what makes me think he Won’t exercise his out clause if/when he doesn’t make the team.
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by CentralCaliRox on Feb 18, 2011 9:55 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
I see him opting out after camp
but it’s an interesting thought. He knew the odds of making the roster before signing here, and yet he still signed.
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1-month clinic with Dac
also audition for other teams?
by Andrew Martin on Feb 18, 2011 10:13 AM MST up reply actions
This.
Is it ApRil yet?
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by Mondogarage on Feb 18, 2011 11:15 AM MST up reply actions
Haven't you read any offseason material?
The Phillies have the “Phantastic Phive.” There’s no room there. Plus, the Rockies have terrible pitching. They were like 19th in staff ERA. Much better chance there
/yahoo
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 18, 2011 10:26 AM MST up reply actions
Maine could have other uses
They may be able to use him in a trade situation.
by Real Perspective on Feb 18, 2011 11:50 AM MST up reply actions
Sorry but this isn't possible
I don’t think they can trade him till June sometime.
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 11:52 AM MST up reply actions
Throw in alan johnson
and anything is possible
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by El Paso Jeff on Feb 18, 2011 11:54 AM MST up reply actions
It's about time!
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ah, bummer
I guess
He was still crushing righties last year. I wouldn’t have hated the Rockies taking a flier on him.
by Andrew Martin on Feb 18, 2011 9:47 AM MST up reply actions
Cards signed him IIRC
Guess he wanted to retire as a Cardinal. Classy.
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by CentralCaliRox on Feb 18, 2011 9:54 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
It's a nice ending
Though it seems he really might have wanted to play, but his Achilles hasn’t healed properly.
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 18, 2011 9:56 AM MST up reply actions
I think he’s got a hell of a Real Hall of Fame case, myself.
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by Franchise26 on Feb 18, 2011 10:02 AM MST up reply actions
Easily should be a hall of famer
Hit for average, power, took walks, great defense. From 2000-2004 he hit like Pujols and played a great center field.
It’s just to bad all-around guys without a .300 average have a tough time getting in.
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nope
he was good in the late 90s early 2000s. Clearly Steroids.
by Andrew Martin on Feb 18, 2011 10:31 AM MST up reply actions
Unless Bill James is right about future voters
There may be only 10 or so players from that era that get in. So far, the precedent has been to air on the side of guilty in every case.
Rocktober is not a time of year, it is a religion.
except for Andy Pettitte.
Despite is acknowledged and confirmed steroid use, he’ll make it in because:
A. Yankees
B. Some contrived reasoning meant to steer naysayers away from the fact that he played for the Yankees.
by Andrew Martin on Feb 18, 2011 10:41 AM MST up reply actions
B: Nice guy
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C: Postseason performances
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 18, 2011 10:48 AM MST up reply actions
Because, by my math
If:
Greatness = Hall of Fame
Postseason Greatness = 10x Regular Season Greatness
Pitcher Wins = Greatness
Then
Pettitte = 240 Wins + 10x 19 Postseason Wins = 430 Wins = Greatness = Hall of Fame
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by hjrrockies on Feb 18, 2011 10:54 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
8 minutes?
I’m not watching that crap
by Andrew Martin on Feb 18, 2011 11:55 AM MST up reply actions
Pettitte will not make it
And not even much because of steroids.
Just a hunch.
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by Mondogarage on Feb 18, 2011 11:16 AM MST up reply actions
HAHA
Awesome
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 18, 2011 11:31 AM MST up reply actions
Amazing
The dude just never stopped hitting even as he approached 40.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 18, 2011 10:35 AM MST up reply actions
Agreed
In some ways I think his case is very similar to another former Cardinal that played a completely different position, Ozzie Smith. Great glove, solid bat, Granted Ozzie had much more personality and an awesome nickname that helped him reach 90% on first ballot but I think Edmonds has a decent shot as well. He didn’t have quite as many hits as Ozzie did but almost 400 HR’s from a CF that got 8 Gold Gloves is pretty special.
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 10:27 AM MST up reply actions
Maybe if he did a back flip when he went to center, his chances would be slightly better.
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by pedalpusher on Feb 18, 2011 10:32 AM MST up reply actions
As far as excitement value goes
he absolutely belongs in.
by Andrew Martin on Feb 18, 2011 10:32 AM MST up reply actions
Andre Dawson: 118 wRC+
Jim Edmonds: 131 wRC+
Dawson in CF: 78 runs above average (per TZ)
Edmonds in CF: 83 runs above average (per TZ)
It’s gonna come down to a witch hunt. Again.
by Andrew Martin on Feb 18, 2011 10:44 AM MST up reply actions
Edmonds doesn't even have 400 HRs!
Don’t compare him to the Hawk:
Dawson 1591 RBI
Edmonds 1199 RBI
by Charlie77 on Feb 18, 2011 12:20 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
RBI, seriously?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 18, 2011 12:41 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
do we hate rbi as well?
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by El Paso Jeff on Feb 18, 2011 12:49 PM MST up reply actions
Yes.
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I hate RBI's!!!!!
totally lame. those buttholes should just stay on the basepaths. I heard this one guy named mike Scoscia actually got on the basepath’s purposely to clog it up.
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by El Paso Jeff on Feb 18, 2011 12:54 PM MST up reply actions
True Story.
RBI’s kidnapped my dog and held her hostage.
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Bastards, probably why she rides next to the window
To see them Ribbies coming. Smart dog.
Until she becomes a canine projectile in the back of your head. (i do not wish this)
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by El Paso Jeff on Feb 18, 2011 12:56 PM MST up reply actions
Thats what she tells me anyway.
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I'd consider that an act of WAR
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by Junction Rox on Feb 18, 2011 1:50 PM MST up reply actions
They're not the best stat for judging the performance of an individual player,
considering how dependent they are on the other players on a team being on base when that hitter comes up to the plate.
besides, chicks dig the long ball
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by DAWNMARIE01 on Feb 18, 2011 12:54 PM MST up reply actions
FALSE!! Only chicks that don't know baseball :P
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I prefer
a well placed bunt myself.
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yeah but a well placed 3 run homer comes in handy at times.
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Yeah sure
he can swing it big every once in a while.
but a bunt shows me a man who can control his wood.
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Uh huh.
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I wish we had a pitcher who had 30 wins and 125 rbi's.
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oh flawed counting stats
how you mislead us
by Andrew Martin on Feb 18, 2011 12:56 PM MST up reply actions
Ribbies are my defense against your anti- wins platform.
Should I update the pong game?
by Charlie77 on Feb 18, 2011 1:21 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
that doesn't make sense
ribbies are less flawed than wins but hardly a good indicator of true offensive prowess. They’re too team dependent and tell you nothing of a player’s skill.
by Andrew Martin on Feb 18, 2011 1:22 PM MST up reply actions
But... but...
Ryan Howard iz da best hitter in baseball! Dingerz n’ ribbiez!
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I think some stats people just hate ribbies..
Because theyre not reliant on obp.
by Charlie77 on Feb 18, 2011 1:27 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
No,
Most stat people hate RBI because They’re too team dependent and tell you nothing of a player’s skill
by Andrew Martin on Feb 18, 2011 1:30 PM MST up reply actions
RBI’s have more to do with the skill of the players batting in front of them then the player themselves. Also highly reliant on where in the lineup that they hit.
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 1:35 PM MST up reply actions
What's funny about some advanced stats like Runs Created
Is they artificially project the value and number of runs the player is worth. In reality RBI and runs scored is the only state that shows what the actual runs produced by a given player. Also you guys mention RBI are team dependent, but in reality a person can score a rbi without any help from his teammates.
by Charlie77 on Feb 18, 2011 3:10 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Granted but that total is most of the time less then 1/3 of his total RBI count
But remember the guy up has no control whatsoever on what his team has done previous to him batting. A single with no one on is the same show of skill as a single with a guy on 2nd however one guy is lucky and get’s an RBI the other one needs to go scream at his teammates to get on base.
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 3:29 PM MST up reply actions
Nope.
It’s not artificial. It’s showing how well a player played, period.
RBI’s are fundamentally flawed.
Rocktober is not a time of year, it is a religion.
Best kind of flaws there is
fundamentals are fundamental…
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by Junction Rox on Feb 18, 2011 4:45 PM MST up reply actions
Yes, we call those individual RBI "home runs"
But we know that each homer isn’t just one run, because there are often times men on base.
Say Dexter Fowler has a 4-for-4 day with 2 triples and 2 doubles, and he leads off the inning each time he bats. Obviously there’s nobody on base because he’s leading off each inning. Fowler then proceeds to get stranded on the basepaths thanks to a comedic string of strikeouts, popups, and weak groundouts. In each of Fowler’s ABs, he wasn’t in the position to drive anybody in based on the way the chips fell with the way the lineup went, and because of his teammates’ incompetence that particular day, he didn’t cross the plate a single time. Are you suggesting that Fowler was worthless at the plate that day? Because that’s what Runs and RBI tell you.
by Andrew Martin on Feb 18, 2011 3:52 PM MST up reply actions 4 recs
Jerk should have stole home.
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Too often advanced stats are used as a crutch..
RBI and pitching wins are the ultimate get-it- done stat. They are the Jack Bauer of stats, no excuses, just gettin the job done.
by Charlie77 on Feb 18, 2011 4:39 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
No. A non-homer RBI is demonstrably more than one person getting the job done.
Whether it’s a previous batter getting on base, a pitcher throwing 4 balls, a strike/passed ball or whatever, there is ALWAYS someone else involved.
And the more RBIs you score on a hit, the more other people are involved!!
Ultimately, because the baseline is constantly changing, a stat based on such fluid and diverse circumstances can’t possibly be anything more than a vague indicator of talent, and even then the sample size has to be statistically relevant.
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-Todd Helton
Rocktober is not a time of year, it is a religion.
Todd Helton is hilarious.
He needs a twitter account.
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Todd and Troy: Because they ARE Rockies.
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I really wish he had one. Then he could tell everyone his daily schedule. :)
Good pitching will beat good hitting any time, and vice versa. ~Bob Veale, 1966
by pedalpusher on Feb 18, 2011 10:48 AM MST up reply actions
Like, "now I'm chillin with Dexter Fowler"
Is it ApRil yet?
No matter, Pitchers and Catchers report, spring is HERE!
by Mondogarage on Feb 18, 2011 11:17 AM MST up reply actions
Who cares what Dex is to doin' though?
Enough of this offseason rubbish already! Let's play some ball!
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some more groundballs. Its more democratic. - Crash Davis
by DAWNMARIE01 on Feb 18, 2011 11:20 AM MST up reply actions
HAHA
That’s awesome. My first job was at the Cracker Barrel. Too bad he never came to mine ;-)
42 more days until the Rockies Home Opener!!!!!!!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 18, 2011 10:50 AM MST up reply actions
I seriously think Todd was genetically engineered to be a Rockie
even his favorite Beer… Coor’s light lol
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 10:53 AM MST up reply actions
So what you're saying is...
…Todd Helton doesn’t like beer.
Is it ApRil yet?
No matter, Pitchers and Catchers report, spring is HERE!
by Mondogarage on Feb 18, 2011 11:17 AM MST up reply actions
I wouldn't know since I don't drink it
but just seems like the guy is perfect for Denver even down to drinking the beer that the stadium is named after.
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 11:19 AM MST up reply actions
Ha!
Enough of this offseason rubbish already! Let's play some ball!
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some more groundballs. Its more democratic. - Crash Davis
by DAWNMARIE01 on Feb 18, 2011 11:21 AM MST up reply actions
Helton once said the reason he lives near Thornton
Is that Thornton has metro Denver’s only Cracker Barrel. And I think he was only half-kidding.
by Northsider1964 on Feb 18, 2011 11:27 AM MST up reply actions
That's too funny.
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Yeah.
He could probably afford to eat at Elway’s every night, but eats at Cracker Barrel instead. Wonder how he feels about Waffle House?
Enough of this offseason rubbish already! Let's play some ball!
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some more groundballs. Its more democratic. - Crash Davis
by DAWNMARIE01 on Feb 18, 2011 11:35 AM MST up reply actions
country fried steak FTW
Who knew that Muzia’s love is like a rock tied to your feet, dragging you to the bottom of the ocean?
Some days, I feel like I’ve accidentally entered the Church of Tulowitzki on Baseball Easter.
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Absolutely, especially with their country gravy.
Well, I believe in the soul, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days.
Now I want to go there for dinner!
Enough of this offseason rubbish already! Let's play some ball!
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some more groundballs. Its more democratic. - Crash Davis
by DAWNMARIE01 on Feb 18, 2011 12:32 PM MST up reply actions
Interesting
TH: I have been on skis, but I haven’t done it for years. We aren’t allowed to. We have two full pages of things we aren’t allowed to do and skiing is right at the top.
I wonder what sorts of other things are on the list. I mean I knew that organizations try to protect their investments over the offseason like that, but never thought there was an actual list of what you can’t do!
Caution: Colorado teams are better than they appear.
by ShadowPenguin on Feb 18, 2011 12:57 PM MST up reply actions
#143 -Drinking Scotch when being pulled over
The Big Purple Machine will make a believer outta you!
by El Paso Jeff on Feb 18, 2011 12:57 PM MST up reply actions
GMs around the league...
are penciling that in as we speak.
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
I used to be normal until I met these losers I now call my friends.
"Cheap tacos are rightous!"-My Daughter
hauling deer meat on an atv
Enough of this offseason rubbish already! Let's play some ball!
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some more groundballs. Its more democratic. - Crash Davis
by DAWNMARIE01 on Feb 18, 2011 12:59 PM MST up reply actions
walking up or down stairs with deer meat in hand
Attempting to grab knives in midair when dropping them off plates
Sneezing
The Big Purple Machine will make a believer outta you!
by El Paso Jeff on Feb 18, 2011 1:02 PM MST up reply actions
also walking down stairs with a golden retriever
Enough of this offseason rubbish already! Let's play some ball!
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some more groundballs. Its more democratic. - Crash Davis
Using a snowblower??
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
I think Greg Reynolds
is the sole reason those lists exist.
Rocktober is not a time of year, it is a religion.
Pickup basketball?
42 more days until the Rockies Home Opener!!!!!!!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 18, 2011 1:05 PM MST up reply actions
Owning glass top coffee tables
Is it ApRil yet?
No matter, Pitchers and Catchers report, spring is HERE!
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrryl
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrryyl
Daaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrryyyl
My brain hurts.
/sniff
two Icehouse 24 oz beers = $3.20 two "fancy" Bud Light 24 oz beers = $5.00
NOW who comes out on top?
by frightened inmate #2 on Feb 18, 2011 2:21 PM MST up reply actions
Breaking bats
then impaling your hand on the jagged end
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
Bazinga!!
In line for seats at the Grand Junction Rockies 2012 home opener
by Junction Rox on Feb 18, 2011 1:52 PM MST up reply actions
Is that....
Like what you post what you’re doing?
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field? ~Jim Bouton, 1988
Todd Helton and John Maine aside...
I think the Rangers need to pick up the phone and call DOD.
Think about it… Michael Young a Rockie… lol
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field? ~Jim Bouton, 1988
Shush...
There goes our clean streak
/wipes down a 2 and writes 0 days since MY becoming a Rockie reference has been made.
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 10:56 AM MST up reply actions
Sorry
I just think MY could really benefit the Rox being the #2 hitter
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field? ~Jim Bouton, 1988
so does everyone
nobody’s actually mad at you, I think everyone’s just tired of hearing about him
by Andrew Martin on Feb 18, 2011 11:03 AM MST up reply actions
I agree
But I don’t think the benefit is worth the cost that’s associated with it right now. I’d rather save the money and see if Lopez can blossom. I know it’s not as safe, but I think Lopez can match MY’s performance at a much cheaper cost and I’d like to see if he can do it or not before investing a ton of money int a hole that might not even exist.
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 11:04 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Shalom
42 more days until the Rockies Home Opener!!!!!!!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 18, 2011 11:34 AM MST up reply actions
Yes exactly.
I'm GoRockies!! everybody :P
by CentralCaliRox on Feb 18, 2011 11:10 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
so do I
I just think he is worth about half of his salary
by waterboy31321 on Feb 18, 2011 11:34 AM MST up reply actions
You're right - not a good long term investment
Who is to say once he gets here he won’t like it and want to bug out. He could dog it during games in order to induce a trade.
It would be nice to have his bat, but he could cost more than just too much money.
by Real Perspective on Feb 18, 2011 11:53 AM MST up reply actions
I think the least of my concerns with MY
involve him dogging it during a game. He’s never been like that even when he’s not been happy about how the organization has treated him he’s played well.
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 11:55 AM MST up reply actions
And that was one bad sentence.
He’s never been like that even when he’s not been happy about how the organization has treated him. He’s played well before when unhappy with moves.
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 11:56 AM MST up reply actions
oh god why would you bring that name back up
by Andrew Martin on Feb 18, 2011 11:00 AM MST up reply actions
Sadly, this.
I'm GoRockies!! everybody :P
by CentralCaliRox on Feb 18, 2011 11:10 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Who's Michael Young?
Never heard of him.
Enough of this offseason rubbish already! Let's play some ball!
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some more groundballs. Its more democratic. - Crash Davis
by DAWNMARIE01 on Feb 18, 2011 11:22 AM MST up reply actions
He must not have a Twitter feed
But Ken Rosenthal’s happy to speak for him.
Is it ApRil yet?
No matter, Pitchers and Catchers report, spring is HERE!
by Mondogarage on Feb 18, 2011 11:23 AM MST up reply actions
Remember the Maine!!
Career postseason era 2.63
by Charlie77 on Feb 18, 2011 12:26 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I wonder how Maine would pitch against the Cubans?
He might get torpedoed. Or he might use a sinkerball.
by Charlie77 on Feb 18, 2011 4:43 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Sure the Cubans would get off to a good start early against Maine
But eventually San Juan Uribe would kick their butts…
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
Bazinga!!
In line for seats at the Grand Junction Rockies 2012 home opener
by Junction Rox on Feb 18, 2011 4:49 PM MST up reply actions
Actually impressed with CBS's power rankings
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 11:43 AM MST reply actions
They usually do a good job TBH
They look at Pythag and stuff
Rocktober is not a time of year, it is a religion.
Yeah, but just the depth he went into with each team is solid
plus you have to like a WS prediction for the Rox
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 11:49 AM MST up reply actions
This made me laugh:
Prediction: I will keep picking the Rockies as my NL World Series representative until they actually deliver on their promise.
Hard not to like them when the Rockies are ranked the top team
After the obvious top three
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 18, 2011 12:40 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
/starts April with a 2-9 record
Who knew that Muzia’s love is like a rock tied to your feet, dragging you to the bottom of the ocean?
Some days, I feel like I’ve accidentally entered the Church of Tulowitzki on Baseball Easter.
Serious Avs fan. Yes, I have health insurance.
SB Nation Denver
/report
for excessive negativism during Spring Training. BAN HIM I SAY BAN HIM
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 1:07 PM MST up reply actions
Iannetta
is part of one of the NL’s best young positional cores, but Stewart is a question mark? Humm
He wants a 'Rabid Puma' in Heltons locker?
Isn’t that cologne illegal in 9 countries? Its quite pungent.
by Charlie77 on Feb 18, 2011 4:53 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I wish it was April 1st already
I just wait any longer
Ubaldo "Iron Arm" Jimenez
Seth Smith’s beard looks on in anticipation.
Zomtober!!!
What's even worse is that there's not actually going to be any baseball on April 1st.
Its a massive April Fool’s joke.
Me too.
The Martha Stewart of processed foods.
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Me three.
Enough of this offseason rubbish already! Let's play some ball!
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some more groundballs. Its more democratic. - Crash Davis
by DAWNMARIE01 on Feb 18, 2011 12:34 PM MST up reply actions
Ubaldo is MLB's best pitcher for the buck
Or so says Tom Van Riper from Forbes. Interesting read.
Get your purple on.
Ooh, I'm excited. From Renck:
#Rockies VP just saw team commercials. Said as a group best so far. Spilly and llama has a chance to be tops ever
two Icehouse 24 oz beers = $3.20 two "fancy" Bud Light 24 oz beers = $5.00
NOW who comes out on top?
by frightened inmate #2 on Feb 18, 2011 12:26 PM MST up reply actions
two Icehouse 24 oz beers = $3.20 two "fancy" Bud Light 24 oz beers = $5.00
NOW who comes out on top?
by frightened inmate #2 on Feb 18, 2011 12:27 PM MST up reply actions
He really "catted" that hell out of that one.
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hot dog hot dog hot dog hot dog hot dog
Enough of this offseason rubbish already! Let's play some ball!
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some more groundballs. Its more democratic. - Crash Davis
by DAWNMARIE01 on Feb 18, 2011 12:39 PM MST up reply actions
either making
really bad dick jokes.
or consuming massive amounts of hot dogs.
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Chacining something mean utter dominating the oppostion
Used in a sentence: Jhoulys Chacin Chachined the Giants in a no-hitter
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 1:09 PM MST up reply actions
I have a feeling
He may drop 50 tomorrow if he starts out on fire. TCU has been terrible recently, and the Jimmer is hungry.
Rocktober is not a time of year, it is a religion.
I think it will feel like a home crowd, too, from what I've heard.
(We should adjourn to OT for any more discussion along these lines.)
I've been over to Denver Stiffs
and it’s very slow loading. Some are attributing it to the big solar flare on Monday.
2011 Colorado Zombies-DeadWalking to the NL West crown
Todd and Troy: Because they ARE Rockies.
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Yeah, that's it. Solar flares.
Enough of this offseason rubbish already! Let's play some ball!
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some more groundballs. Its more democratic. - Crash Davis
by DAWNMARIE01 on Feb 18, 2011 12:41 PM MST up reply actions
Well, actually, it could be true
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41651732/ns/technology_and_science-space/
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Todd and Troy: Because they ARE Rockies.
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Cool! I think we should just start blaming everything that goes wrong on solar flares.
Enough of this offseason rubbish already! Let's play some ball!
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some more groundballs. Its more democratic. - Crash Davis
by DAWNMARIE01 on Feb 18, 2011 12:55 PM MST up reply actions
it's why I'm gay.
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So you're saying that the sun is flaming?
Summertime is almost here. That old ballpark, man, it's back in gear. Haven't seen it in a while. Man, it makes me smile.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Feb 18, 2011 1:18 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
No, only that she was blinded by science
SCIENCE!!!!
Is it ApRil yet?
No matter, Pitchers and Catchers report, spring is HERE!
I swear it takes me only reading this lyric
for that song to immediately take me back to a great time of my life.
2011 Colorado Zombies-DeadWalking to the NL West crown
Todd and Troy: Because they ARE Rockies.
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this is quickly
becoming one of my favorite memes.
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Nice.
The Martha Stewart of processed foods.
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Proud Member of the PR gynocracy.
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That's been my policy for some time now.
2011 Colorado Zombies-DeadWalking to the NL West crown
Todd and Troy: Because they ARE Rockies.
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Yes so am I.
Anybody know when they’re coming out?
I'm GoRockies!! everybody :P
by CentralCaliRox on Feb 18, 2011 1:28 PM MST up reply actions
I think Rockies All Access usually does a show on them a couple weeks before Opening Day.
Enough of this offseason rubbish already! Let's play some ball!
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some more groundballs. Its more democratic. - Crash Davis
I mean look at this quote
Lopez about the Rockies:
“I’m real excited,” Lopez said. "I’ve followed this team the last six or seven years. It’s a young team and everybody plays together, everybody pulls together. You play for the team, you don’t play for yourself.
God, I love this team.
I'm GoRockies!! everybody :P
by CentralCaliRox on Feb 18, 2011 1:30 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Granted it is ST so everyone is saying the right thing
but still that’s a pretty powerful statement and an attitude like that bodes well for Lopez’s time here now go match RG’s prediction of +900OPS
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 1:38 PM MST up reply actions
See, I'm worried.
This offseason and ST preparation is just going far too well. Everybody, and I mean everybody says they’re feeling great. No injuries, nothing. Nothing but positive headlines from the Post, and positive quotes from the players.
I'm GoRockies!! everybody :P
by CentralCaliRox on Feb 18, 2011 1:40 PM MST up reply actions
You sound like someone who has a life history of being abused
they often times don’t feel right unless there is abuse going on. Just sit back and enjoy some tender loving from this year’s Rockies.
p.s. don’t worry they’ll have a tired arm in ST soon enough
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 1:42 PM MST up reply actions
LOL at first statement.
it just seems too good to be true.
I'm GoRockies!! everybody :P
by CentralCaliRox on Feb 18, 2011 1:44 PM MST up reply actions
We just had an off-season that was almost too good to be true
And your waiting for it to crash, I understand just don’t waste the good times by worrying about bad times that you can’t predict.
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 1:47 PM MST up reply actions
That's pretty typical though
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 18, 2011 1:42 PM MST up reply actions
Ehhh... Last year street, betancourt went down.
I'm GoRockies!! everybody :P
by CentralCaliRox on Feb 18, 2011 1:44 PM MST up reply actions
If Lopez can even OPS 850+....
…then Michael who?!?!?
Is it ApRil yet?
No matter, Pitchers and Catchers report, spring is HERE!
Lopez has a good fundamental understanding of hitting
…hit the ball hard, and the ball goes.
Rocktober is not a time of year, it is a religion.
Lol, I know right?
That was pretty funny. I also noticed something else Lopez said:
“I feel comfortable with men on base,” Lopez said. “You see Ichiro [Suzuki], Frankie [Gutierrez] on base. You go to home plate, you know what’s going on. [Last year] I don’t see anybody on base and I tried doing too much. That’s what happened.”
Now I’m not too good with stats, but I looked up at B-R and I saw that in 622 PA, Lopez had 397 men on base. Now, in 2009, in 653 PA, he had 431 men on base. Lopez had a much poorer percentage in driving in those runners in 2010. Granted, there were a little less men on base, but he had more men on base than maybe he thinks.
I'm GoRockies!! everybody :P
by CentralCaliRox on Feb 18, 2011 1:38 PM MST up reply actions
eh, player perceptions are subject the same biases that ours are
by Andrew Martin on Feb 18, 2011 1:39 PM MST up reply actions
true, but I just think Lopez was reaching a little bit in his quote.
I'm GoRockies!! everybody :P
by CentralCaliRox on Feb 18, 2011 1:41 PM MST up reply actions
Yes and No
perception does matter, and even if he had the same number on base when your down a lot it could still make a guy press more.
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 1:43 PM MST up reply actions
What I'm trying to get across though
is that Lopez did in fact still have runners on.
I'm GoRockies!! everybody :P
by CentralCaliRox on Feb 18, 2011 1:45 PM MST up reply actions
Okay I think I misread your comment
Lopez probably did press. I hope he bounces back. If he bats 6th, which I’m 98% sure he will, he should have plenty of runners on. Let’s see how he performs this year.
I'm GoRockies!! everybody :P
by CentralCaliRox on Feb 18, 2011 1:46 PM MST up reply actions
I don't know how many runners he'll have on batting 6th
after Cargo and Tulo go back to back every time and clear the bases.
by Chacinisthefuture on Feb 18, 2011 1:48 PM MST up reply actions
I was thinking more along the lines of
He probably won’t have many after Ian hits a HR. I think Stewie is going to break out. We’ll see though. Lopez should have plenty of MOB.
I'm GoRockies!! everybody :P
by CentralCaliRox on Feb 18, 2011 2:17 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, that was totally not my fault.
Lol. I tried to preview the link, and then I clicked POST! But it didn’t post. And since I’m an extremely impatient person (offseason kills me), I clicked it again. Whoopsy.
I'm GoRockies!! everybody :P
by CentralCaliRox on Feb 18, 2011 1:31 PM MST up reply actions
echo
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echo
echo
by Andrew Martin on Feb 18, 2011 1:31 PM MST up reply actions
hey hey hey
This is only like my second double post in my career.
I'm GoRockies!! everybody :P
by CentralCaliRox on Feb 18, 2011 1:31 PM MST up reply actions
They did a crap job
of stitching that together.
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Not really, about BR
Comes form Rockies official Twitter page
"No Mission Too Difficult, No Sacrifice Too Great—Duty First" - 1st Infantry Division Motto
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Purple Row - Covering all your Rockies needs!
Looks like Matt Reynolds strolling back from the hurdles?
Is it ApRil yet?
No matter, Pitchers and Catchers report, spring is HERE!
hahahahaha
The Twins are giving this away for one of their bobblehead nights this year:

Summertime is almost here. That old ballpark, man, it's back in gear. Haven't seen it in a while. Man, it makes me smile.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Feb 18, 2011 4:15 PM MST reply actions
Rockies commercials.
Per Renck, they’ll debut on Rockies All-Access March 4 at 7pm. Don’t know when they’ll be available online for those of us who don’t get FSRM.
I love being delayed for my flight.
It’s happened to me the past two times. I might have to stay the night in an airport tonight! Lol.
I'm GoRockies!! everybody :P
by CentralCaliRox on Feb 18, 2011 8:54 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Anyone else having trouble getting on PR?
I think servers might have gone down for like 2 hrs.
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field? ~Jim Bouton, 1988
yep.
Support’s aware of it and working on it.
by Andrew Martin on Feb 19, 2011 12:23 AM MST up reply actions
sweet....
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field? ~Jim Bouton, 1988
Per MLBTR:
Belisle agrees to two year deal for $6.125MM
Summertime is almost here. That old ballpark, man, it's back in gear. Haven't seen it in a while. Man, it makes me smile.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Feb 19, 2011 7:35 AM MST reply actions

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