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Did Clint Hurdle Hoodwink Jim Tracy into Making the RIGHT Decision?

Most baseballs analysts would tell you that baseball managers have an overrated impact on a team's record. They don't allow home runs or strike out with the bases loaded. However, the time managers' decisions are undeniably influential are in extra innings ball games.

The most interesting decision in MLB so far this season came in Friday's game between the Pirates and Rockies. As the last man available in the bullpen, Franklin Morales recorded two outs in the bottom of the 14th inning before walking Josh Rodriguez on four pitches.

Then came the decision. Jose Tabata came to the plate, tied with the most hits in MLB since the All-Star Break in 2010. The next batter was to be relief pitcher Garrett Olsen, as Pittsburgh had no more hitters remaining on the bench.

Jim Tracy had a choice: face Jose Tabata and hope he did not smack an extra base hit, or face a far inferior hitter in Olsen with the winning run in scoring position. Tracy chose the first choice, and he was burned when Tabata clubbed a 3-1 fastball off the right-field wall for a walk-off double.

A new wrinkle came to has come to light about that game though. According to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, former Rockies skipper Clint Hurdle ordered Andrew McCutchen to go to the on-deck circle rather than Olsen, even though McCutchen was due to bat after Olsen. Theoretically, that might make current Rockies skipper afraid to walk Tabata.

The reaction has been cackles of laughter at Jim Tracy's expense and congratulations to Clint Hurdle. It is, after all, an irresistible story. "Former Rockies manager and current Pirates manager outmanages current Rockies manager and former Pirates manager in retribution for home opener loss." Powered by hindsight, it is comical that Tracy just might have passed up facing a pitcher and instead got duped into a choice that eventually led to a loss.

Let us assume for a moment that neither Jim Tracy or bench coach Tom Runnels (or anyone in the dugout) paid no attention to their scorecard or stadium scoreboard, instead basing their decision on the on-deck hitter. If that is the case (which sincerely doubt), did Hurdle's maneuver actually make Tracy choose the wrong path?

No. No it did not. Despite the easy presumption, it was not wrong for Jim Tracy to pitch to Jose Tabata.

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While Fangraphs usually is a slave to WPA calculations, Eric Seidman's column (above) paid no mind whatsoever to the game probabilities.  Tom Tango ran calculations and found the decision between facing and walking Tabata to be "pretty close to breakeven."

The calculations are extremely complicated based on seemingly countless variables. With all due respect to Tango, many of those variables push the probabilities away from break-even and towards the "pitch to Tabata choice." How can that be? If you need one out, you always choose to face a reliever instead of Jose Tabata, right? Not necessarily.

Jim Tracy's logic, which was correct, was that Jose Tabata needed an extra base hit to win the game for Pittsburgh by himself. The MLB rate for extra base hits is 7%, while Tabata has hit them at 7.4% in his MLB career (but just 2 in 31 PA in 2011 coming in). With the outfield playing extremely deep, some traditional doubles would be held to singles and/or prevent the runner from scoring from first. Tabata needed a perfectly placed extra base hit off the wall, down the lines or in the gaps. That lowers the effective extra base hit rate required around 6% (a conservative guess), with a 94% chance that the situation would play out no worse than if Tabata was walked in the first place. That's a pretty safe bet, even if it did not work out.

So let us assume Tabata was intentially walked instead. That brings up a pitcher with a career .167 batting average and a runner in scoring position. The pitcher/hitter would be ordered not to swing until there were two strikes, and the Morales would be forced to throw three strikes. We have seen how that worked out before.

I'll remind you again who was pitching: Franklin Morales, he who has walked more than 1/8th of the batters he has faced in his career. Then consider that batters have swung at 21% of his pitches outside the strike zone in his career, something Olsen would not have done (he isn't swinging, remember), and we could reasonably expect that walk rate to increase. 

So check out Morales' strike/ball ratio: just 48.6% of his career pitches have come in the strike zone. If Olsen does not swing, a probability matrix of potential ball/strike combos yields a walk to Olsen about one third of the time. That means walking Tabata yields a bases-loaded situation for Andrew McCutchen one third of the time, which is a far worse situation than a runner on first with two outs.

That doesn't account for the wild pitches, balks or increased wildness Morales likely would have exhibited in a pressure situation (remember, Tabata's hit came on a 3-1 pitch). Then add to that the possibility of the pitcher getting a lucky hit with two strikes (it happens) and we are looking at the obvious choice: pitch to Jose Tabata, hope he doesn't surpass probability and hit the perfect extra base hit, and at the worst, face the pitcher in a similar situation you would have been after an intentional walk.

Did Clint Hurdle's antics cause Jim Tracy to pitch to Tabata? Maybe. We will never know - as our friends at TrueBlueLA would say, Jim Tracy doesn't have a track record of taking responsibility for mistakes. After the game, he just said he knew Tabata would need an extra base hit for the win and did not address McCutchen in the on-deck circle.

But if Tracy would have walked Tabata with the pitcher coming up, it would have been the wrong decision, even if the right decision turned out wrong for the Rockies in the end. Because see, no matter what the manager chooses to do, the game is still decided by the execution of the players on the field.

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With Franklin Morales on the mound, what would you have done if you were Jim Tracy?
Walk Tabata. When you can choose to get out of a jam by facing a relief pitcher, you take it.
149 votes
Face Tabata. Especially with Morales pitching, you don't want more baserunners, and the math suggests to face Tabata.
86 votes

235 votes | Poll has closed

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I think Tracy's biggest mistake..

Was not losing Franklin Morales in a cactus patch on the way north from spring training.

by Charlie77 on Apr 11, 2011 1:08 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

there is no way you can hang this loss

on Franklin…

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by hotdoglady on Apr 11, 2011 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

Baloney

Please, please, one hundred times please, Get rid of Franklin Morales.

He is a head case. He loses games. I don’t care if he throws 110 MPH and is a lefty. He is a cancer. You can’t use him early and you can’t use him late but, when you do use him, Rox will lose. The tougher the situation, the more wild he gets and the more he looks around confused when his pitches go to the backstop or he hits a batter or there is a walk or the ball sails way over his head.

I am appealing to all that is decent and right with baseball -- please take him off the Rox roster.

by RoxSox on Apr 11, 2011 5:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks for delving in to this more..

I was looking for more of a conversation about it on the rockpile after that game. MissR posted a link to the article,but the discussion didn’t go very far. I did catch it on Fangraphs,which had some good thoughts. I thought the dynamics between Tracy and Hurdle was interesting…anyway thanks :)

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by butterfly on Apr 11, 2011 1:22 PM MDT reply actions  

Since McCutchen hadn't followed Tabata in the order

For the first 12 hours of this game, I don’t know how anyone could be fooled into thinking he was going to in that situation. I think Tracy knew full well the pitcher’s spot was up next, but didn’t want to push a runner into scoring position with Frankie Mo on the mound.

Of course Olson wasn’t going to hit Morales’ fastball – because he wasn’t going to swing the bat. He was going to stand there and hope for a walk, and there’s a good chance he would have gotten it. (As a precedent, I offer Adam Eaton’s “I’m not swinging under any circumstances” walk against the Giants right ahead of the Spilly Slam.)

Bottom line – I wouldn’t have criticized Tracy if he had walked Tabata, especially since the guy’s emerging as a really big-time bat. But I think it’s a much tougher call than people made it out to be the morning after the game. Anyone can tell Frankie Mo to throw four wide ones – but getting him to stop throwing wide ones is another matter.

(I would quickly add, however, that I agree with Maria – I put this loss on the anemic offense, not Morales or Tracy.)

by Northsider1964 on Apr 11, 2011 1:24 PM MDT reply actions  

I think the fact that Morales

Seemed rattled and couldn’t get anything close to the strike zone against Rodriguez, probably played a part in Tracy’s decision. When Frankie’s temperature is rising, it’s hard to bring yourself to put more traffic on the bases.

by Northsider1964 on Apr 11, 2011 1:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

man that second paragraph looks awfully familiar:)

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 11, 2011 1:30 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Oh, sorry

I didn’t open the link until now. Now I feel stupid.

by Northsider1964 on Apr 11, 2011 1:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

no its fine

I know your position was well informed and strong before the article. Nothing wrong with agreeing with me.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 11, 2011 1:35 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

as to the end of your post

The managerial decision here was very interesting for a couple reasons – Hurdle’s decoy attempt and the uniqueness of the decision. But either way, it is a close call and affects the probability of getting out of that inning by just a couple percent, roughly the same as whether Morales’ first pitch to Tabata was a ball or a strike

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 11, 2011 1:34 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think another thing that makes it interesting

Is that Hurdle had broken (slightly) from convention earlier in the game by walking Tulo, even though first base wasn’t open. Helton grounded out to end the inning, and Hurdle looks smart. But would Hurdle have walked the bases loaded with a ticking time bomb like Morales on the mound? I doubt it.

In a game like that, somebody’s eventually going to make a move that doesn’t work out. Maybe I’m being overly defensive of Tracy, but any manager can look dumb after his offense wets itself for 5+ hours and his bullpen is totally exhuasted.

by Northsider1964 on Apr 11, 2011 1:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree with Maria – I put this loss on the anemic offense, not Morales or Tracy

Bingo!!!!!

If you go 13 straight innings without scoring a run, you probably are not going to win. The story of this game was not Jim Tracy but instead the Rockies offense blowing all of their golden opportunites with RISP; especially the ones we had in the 10th and the 14th.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Apr 11, 2011 2:12 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Have I mentioned that ATF is my favorite writer on PR?

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by Muzia on Apr 11, 2011 1:29 PM MDT reply actions  

really?

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 11, 2011 1:36 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yep.

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by Muzia on Apr 11, 2011 4:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

seeing how Tango called it a wash

I feel a bit more justified in my thought that Morales could lob 3 strikes to Olsen.

I see the logic both ways, but I personally take the chance on Morales v Pitcher

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 11, 2011 1:30 PM MDT reply actions  

1/3rd chance of walking?

That seems very high to me. Sure seems like a major league pitcher should be able to throw 2 strikes in a row if he know the pitcher won’t be swinging, and then be able to finish him off more then 1/3rd of the time.

by broncoboy326 on Apr 11, 2011 1:44 PM MDT reply actions  

Yeah, but this is Franklin Morales we're talking about.

With that being said, I agree with you – as well as anyone else who voted for option 1.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 11, 2011 1:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

I know that seems high

And on one hand, it is. It uses a dataset of pitches where Morales is trying to miss bats and not just groove pitches. So yes, it would be more accurate. However, the 33% is already an adjustment down from 37% the matrix fed me, and given his temperament and wildness at the time, I’m not sure he would be that much more accurate.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 11, 2011 1:52 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm not voting

because either way I think Tracy was going to lose this particular situation.

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by SDcat09 on Apr 11, 2011 2:00 PM MDT reply actions  

I seriously doubt Tracy was tricked

If a casual fan can mentally keep track of the batting order during a game, I’m sure a professional manager, with the aid of a constantly updated score-card for both teams wouldn’t get confused.

I think Tracy was just expecting the worse from Morales (ie he throws 4 intentional balls to Tabata, and then can no longer find the strike zone for anyone else, or gets rattled and throws one if his patented balks, etc….)

by ddavis539 on Apr 11, 2011 2:04 PM MDT reply actions  

Great post ATF

I can’t believe that poll: JIM TRACY ABSOLUTELY MADE THE RIGHT DECISION HERE!!!!! As the article states, Tabata only hits for extra bases 7.4% of the time and an extrabase hit was the ONLY way the Rockies were going to get beat with Tabata standing at the plate. If Tabata got a single, the Rockies would have been faced with the exact same situation as if they walked Tabata; get the pitcher out and go to the next inning. We had two opportunities to get out of that inning with the scenario Tracy chose while only taking a small chance of getting burned by an extrabase hit. I like our chances there.

With it being a cold, damp night in Pittsburgh, the ball was not carrying well at all and as ATF mentions the outfielders were playing deep to prevent a double. Taking this into consideration, I think the 6% chance ATF gave Tabata to get an extra base hit in that spot was about as generous as one could possibly be there. This means that unless you think the pitcher is going to bat below .060, Tracy made the right move. I don’t care how poor the pitcher is, I think there has to be at least 6% chance that he could bloop a base hit somewhere against Frankie Mo and drive in the winning run.

Another thing to think about is that in order to win that game the Rockies not only had to get the last out in the 14th, they also had to get at least the three outs in the 15th as well. This means that facing Tabata and getting him to end the inning would prove adventageous the following inning with the pitcher leading off instead of Cutch. If Tracy had elected to walk Tabata and face the pitcher, the odds of the Pirates scoring in the 15th would have increased.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Apr 11, 2011 2:07 PM MDT reply actions  

can't argue with any of this

I didn’t delve into how the theory affected the 15th, though I almost did.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 11, 2011 2:11 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

it just is not intuitive that facing a pitcher would be less preferable than a blossoming hitter

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 11, 2011 2:18 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

I can’t believe that poll

It’s not as if we’re talking about walking someone to get to Albert Pujols or something. Even Tango said it was kind of a breakeven situation.

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 11, 2011 2:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

Tango's work does not take the weather or the fact that the pitcher would be leading off the 15th inning if Tabata made an out into the equation though

Both of those details were crucial to this situation; especially when you consider that the Rockies would have had their pitcher’s spot nine batters away at the start of the 15th.

And even if I did believe it was a break even situation I would still be shocked at that poll because in that case it should be around 50/50. I think there’s a good chunk of fans who just want to bash Jim Tracy any chance they get. Either that or people are voting that way because they didn’t like the result.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Apr 11, 2011 3:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

I voted for Walk Tabata

I’m not trying to bash Tracy, I don’t think it was a miserable decision. I’m kind of 55-45 on the situation.

Give some people a LITTLE bit of credit here.

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 11, 2011 3:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah that probably came off a little too hard

I just don’t see the advantage in walking Tabata beyond pitchers being terrible hitters though. While that’s a very stong point, I think it’s the only point folks on that side of the fence have to lean on. Everything else: the probability of an extra base hit, the weather, the position of the outfielders, the setup of the next inning all pointed towards pitching to Tabata.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Apr 11, 2011 3:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

I guess I see it somewhat differently

While that’s a very stong point, I think it’s the only point folks on that side of the fence have to lean on.

“relief pitchers are not very good hitters” is a pretty strong thing to lean on. Even if it’s the “only” thing to lean on.

Who has a better chance of hitting that perfect XBH? Tabata or Olsen? There is no 15th if you don’t get the out – and they didn’t. Account for the weather and the time and the food they ate pregame and the cut of Hurdle’s jib and everything, Tabata is still a better hitter than Garrett Olsen. It’s not as if these factors ONLY affect Tabata, they affect Olsen too.

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 11, 2011 3:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

"who has a better chance of hitting that perfect XBH?"

Not sure how that’s relevant. It’s a perfect XBH from Tabata vs any lucky single from the pitcher

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 11, 2011 3:31 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

hm...didn't think about that...

why am I having this discussion? I don’t care either way, we lost.

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 11, 2011 3:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yup. If the runner was on second, then you 100% walk Tabata. But he wasn’t.

Either way, it’s a loss. And 3 out of 4 in any road series is pretty doggone good.

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by wtnelson on Apr 11, 2011 4:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

Who has a better chance of hitting that perfect XBH? Tabata or Olsen?

That’s the thing though; if we walk Tabata, Olsen doesn’t need an extra base hit. With men on fist and second, all he has to do is bloop one into the outfield and the game is over. The weather conditions were killing the flight of deep fly balls, not the ability to dunk a single over the infield.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Apr 11, 2011 3:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

I come down on the other side

But I agree in that I’m really just “45-55” in the other direction. Tabata was beast this entire series and really for the past half-season, so taking the bat out of his hands would have been fine with me. But like I said above, the fact that Frankie Mo was on the hill is what makes me reluctant to add traffic.

by Northsider1964 on Apr 11, 2011 3:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

imho, Tracy's only truly questionable decision was running out Paulino prior to Betancourt

Because Paulino could have gone more than one inning, and the pitcher’s spot came up after Paulino’s inning, with Betancourt would have thrown.

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by Mondogarage on Apr 11, 2011 3:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

I intentionally put the poll after the jump and at the end

In hopes people would read the article before voting with result bias

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 11, 2011 3:13 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

I say intentionally walk the Pirates most consistent hitter

and force Frankie to make the pitches or Olsen to get a hit.

As for the McCutcheon affair, I believe I’ve seen the in-the-hole hitter go out and stand by the on-deck circle in these situations before i.e. the manager is dragging his feet and trying not to show his hand. Perhaps I remember seeing it pulled with Hurdle and the Rox(?) but it also seems like a LaRussa/old school type thing. I highly doubt Tracy was fooled by this maneuver — folks are probably more surprised he didn’t do the standard ‘walk the position player to get to the pitcher’ move and are looking for some silly reason he didn’t do so.

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by WalkInRight on Apr 11, 2011 2:23 PM MDT reply actions  

having said all that

I don’t blame Frankie for the loss since the offensive suckitude and poor Tracy manueverings in prior innings had backed the rox into a corner at this point.

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by WalkInRight on Apr 11, 2011 2:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Doubtful

Tracy was fooled. His mind is pretty encyclopedic. Anyone who watches his press conferences knows this. Tracy goes on and on (and on and on) when describing games with precise detail. That said, it was getting late and everyone seemed a little loopy. Whatever the case, it wasn’t looking good for the Rockies at that point. But whatever. We won the series.

by Hoop Dog on Apr 11, 2011 2:36 PM MDT reply actions  

I think it was in the Rockpile

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by SDcat09 on Apr 11, 2011 3:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

that stuff is always discussed in the rockpile

And yes we do

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 11, 2011 3:36 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

I completely agree ... and in general intentional walks are questionable ...

except in very precise situations. Managers use them way too much without thinking it through, IMO, kind of like punts in football. As noted in the links, if you actually do the math on the statistics, it’s amazing how little difference it makes to your chance of winning whether you pitch to the 280 outfielder or the 150 pitcher, once you figure in all the contingencies. People tend to focus in on just the fact that the outfielder is a better hitter, forgetting that it’s a lot easier to drive in a runner from second than first. And the improvement in chances of avoiding a run next inning by starting with the pitcher.

And there’s no freakin’ way Tracy got fooled. That’s why he’s got a bench full of coaches. It’s doubtful he even saw who was on deck.

by BostonTransplant on Apr 11, 2011 4:06 PM MDT reply actions  

Good breakdown of the situation.

One thing that I’d think about is that the odds of a hitter getting an extra base hit are doubtless much higher on a 3-1 count than in all other situations. I’m not sure what those odds are, but they are no doubt relevant to this decision.

On a 3-0 or 3-1 count, I walk Tabata intentionally. Otherwise, let him try and get that XBH.

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by Jeff Aberle on Apr 11, 2011 6:04 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

This is actually a great point I had not thought of

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