Giants 8, Rockies 1: Lincecum Dazzles, Rogers Struggles
by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 18, 2011 9:42 PM MDT
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PrintThe Rockies purposely left the first inning assortment of balls outside of the humidor to give the San Francisco Giants false hope, and the Giants responded by putting up five runs in the first frame against Esmil Rogers on their way to an 8-1 spanking of the team that still holds baseball's best record, despite the defeat.
Tim Lincecum ensured the Giants would hold the lead by using the humidor'd ball assortment to hold the Rockies hitless into the seventh inning, in which Carlos Gonzalez would break up the no-no by lathering (thanks, Drew Goodman) a ball into right field. He would eventually come around to score on the first of two Todd Helton doubles on the evening, ruining Timmy's bid for a shutout. Lincecum still finished with 10 strikeouts in 7.2 innings while giving up just three hits.
Rogers, meanwhile, allowed back-to-back homeruns to Pat Burrell (a 3-run shot) and Nate Schierholtz (who unleashed one about 675 feet into the upper deck) in the first inning, and another blast to Freddy Sanchez in the second (as well as a close call off the bat of Aubrey Huff that fell into the glove of Ryan Spilborghs, who was terrible in his own right tonight). Prior to those bombs, Esmil had the longest streak of holding opposing batters without a homerun in baseball. Rogers' final line: eight runs on six hits and two walks in three innings.
The obvious positive to take from tonight's contest (other than Helton, I suppose) was the outing of Clay Mortensen, who pitched six scoreless innings of relief while allowing just two hits - doing his part to not only allow his team to at least try to get back into the game, but also taking a load off of what is a somewhat taxed bullpen. He walked two and struck out just one, but his sinker was definitely on - as the 11-to-1 groundout-to-flyout ratio would indicate.
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I have somewhat of a dislike for the Giants. But, tomorrow marks the return of Ubaldo, so we shall all rejoice!
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Just like the Rockies must do, put this one behind you and get 'em next time :)
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 18, 2011 9:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Tough shit. Get ’em tomorrow.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
146 games, by my count.
Followed by at least 11 more.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:00 PM MDT up reply actions
It's all good
Well, at least it’s OK. Esmil was clearly getting squeezed early, but he never compensated either. Staked to a 5 run lead in the first, Timmy was able to pitch fearlessly and masterfully. We just got our butts kicked, plain and simple. Get ’em tomorrow.
Get your purple on.
I've never seen a team key off on a fastball like the Giants did today.
They sat dead-red on the heater all night long.
@CentralCaliRox
They must know how straight it is.
It just sucks because Esmil was thisclose to getting his secondary pitches in for strikes. He wasn’t really wild with them at all.
Stupid game of inches.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 18, 2011 9:55 PM MDT up reply actions
Straight as a freaking string. Somebody teach this kid a two-seam grip, stat.
Schierholtz’s home run was so awesome, though – that was like Ron Burgundy’s dog pooping in the fridge AND eating the whole wheel of cheese. I wasn’t even mad. That was amazing.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
And somebody take the binoculars out of the Gints bullpen
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:01 PM MDT up reply actions
Same here. I literally could not believe it.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 18, 2011 10:01 PM MDT up reply actions
Hey, he said he had our juiced ballz right here
Seriously….who buys a ticket to section 308 thinking they’re going to catch a souvenir ball?
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:05 PM MDT up reply actions
wow....apparently Schierholtz' brother got The home run ball, as he was sitting ten feet away
He didn’t catch it, instead paid the guy $25 to get it
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 18, 2011 10:13 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
thats pretty cool
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by nodakroxfan on Apr 18, 2011 10:24 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Conceptually cool....
but Nate’s a Gint, I would have charged him $100
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Oh, I forgot the part where I go, "syke" and give the ball to a kid instead
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Except that the kid probably sells it to him for five bucks.
by el campysino on Apr 18, 2011 10:34 PM MDT up reply actions
LOL
The glove goes on the hand, not the ear.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:41 PM MDT up reply actions
Glad to see it was barely even a flesh wound!
However, I don’t think he inhereted the jedi abilities. Otherwise, the ball would have swerved at the last minute.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:51 PM MDT up reply actions
Why would you pay $25 for a ball that your brother hit
that you didn’t catch? It’s your brother. He could probably get you one if you wanted it.
by DumbAndNerdy on Apr 18, 2011 10:28 PM MDT up reply actions
One complaint:
I don’t like how Tracy pulled CarGo and Tulo in the 8th inning today. Could he have raised a larger white flag? If you really want them to get rest (which they really don’t need anyway), then give them an entire day. You demoralize your team when you do something like that.
@CentralCaliRox
I'm really back and forth on this,
but I’m leaning toward thinking that it’s no big deal in the grand scheme of things.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 18, 2011 9:58 PM MDT up reply actions
It's not.
We were down 8 runs and had shown absolutely no life. There was zero realistic expectation of getting back in this game, and the weather was conducive to muscle pulls.
Caution now leads to postseason later.
Anyone here really want Tulo tearing a quad fielding a meaningless top of the 9th grounder and have to miss 44 games? Just for the sake of Tracy being able to avoid someone’s gratuitous digs?
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:03 PM MDT up reply actions
My thoughts exactly
They were not going to win the game so why not give them a breather. Herrera needs a breather as well – maybe tomorrow?? Thumbs up to Mortensen. Split the next two games curse the schedule for not getting the Giants 5th starter and move on.
I’m pretty sure they were three exits past demoralized after getting it shoved at them for seven innings by Lincecum AND after Schierholtz’s home run ball booked a connecting flight out of the Fort Collins airport.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
what if they go out and get hurt in a game that is likely already decided?
"Don't give up, don't ever give up" - Jim Valvano
by nodakroxfan on Apr 18, 2011 10:00 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, now that we're talking unlikely circumstances
What if they lead a huge rally in the 9th inning?
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Apr 18, 2011 10:01 PM MDT up reply actions
You're confusing last year's comeback against the Cardinals...
…with something that actually happens more than once a decade.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:04 PM MDT up reply actions
I did say unlikely circumstances.
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Apr 18, 2011 10:04 PM MDT up reply actions
But it's beyond "unlikely"
It’s more like “almost never”.
There have been more perfect games pitched than their have been 8 run 9th inning comebacks.
Tulo tearing a quad, however, has already happened in the last three years. And this weather was perfect for muscle injuries.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions
both are unlikely
But I was fine with it I guess..7 runs is a hefty margin.. to each his own
"Don't give up, don't ever give up" - Jim Valvano
by nodakroxfan on Apr 18, 2011 10:05 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
both are unlikely
But I was fine with it I guess..7 runs is a hefty margin.. to each his own
"Don't give up, don't ever give up" - Jim Valvano
by nodakroxfan on Apr 18, 2011 10:05 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah I definitely see that side of the ball.
It’s just the giving up aspect that disgusts me
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Apr 18, 2011 10:05 PM MDT up reply actions
agreed
The white flag sucks unless its the other team waving it
"Don't give up, don't ever give up" - Jim Valvano
by nodakroxfan on Apr 18, 2011 10:07 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
But you're confusing the concept of "giving up" with that of conserving resources for when they'll have a greater effect
You know what raising the white flag is?
Trading four of your starters when you’re leading your division at the all start break (see 1993 or whatever year it was the White Sox did that).
You know what raising the white flag is?
Using a position player as a pitcher. In the 7th inning.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:09 PM MDT up reply actions
Meh
I’d consider sitting Tulo/CarGo “raising the white flag” to be honest.
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Apr 18, 2011 10:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Because in that weather, those are the two players you can *least* afford to have injured...
….in what had become a meaningless last two innings.
I’m sorry, but you’re wrong.
Ask Tulo and Cargo if they think Jim Tracy was waving a white flag.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions
I disagree.
You’re trying to juxtapose “giving up” and “resting players for a meaningless ballgame”. If you rest your two best players for the final two innings, you’ve said “okay, you beat us today.” There’s no doubt about that.
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Apr 18, 2011 10:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Seems like you two are making both sides of the same argument..
Yeah, they gave up. But the two players were 1-6 and being unproductive. So Tracy pulled them both to rest and provide someone else a shot.
No, I'm saying that the literal odds of scoring 8 runs in the final two innings of that game...
….were so small (see that WPA graph above?) that the cost of risk of injury in an injury-conducive environment, did not outweigh the benefit of having a healthy Tulo and Cargo for the rest of this week.
Had Tracy thrown the white flag, you’d have seen the bench emptied entirely, and Franklin Morales on the mound.
And, what Charlie77 just said.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:21 PM MDT up reply actions
They practically did empty the bench.
There’s no argument here really. But yes, Tracy gave up.
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Apr 18, 2011 10:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Jose Morales and Jason Giambi did not play...
In fact, the team used only 40% of its bench players tonight. That’s categorically not emptying the bench. It’s just not.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Think of it as a strategic withdrawal.
by el campysino on Apr 18, 2011 10:09 PM MDT up reply actions
I think you mean
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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It was a Monty Python joke
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
Toddfather, Tulo, CarGo plus The Answer - Rox 2011 NL West Crown
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Long-time Python fan here.
But all I got was two seconds of loud and unintelligible screaming, with no video. Could that be a problem on my end?
by el campysino on Apr 18, 2011 10:20 PM MDT up reply actions
No, that's pretty much Monty Python
/duck
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:21 PM MDT up reply actions
It said RUN AWAY ! RUN AWAY!
I didn’t want to post the entire 2 minute YouTube thing, because it takes too long to get to the RUN AWAY part.
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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Oh, it's just a harmless little bunny, isn't it?
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by WalkInRight on Apr 18, 2011 10:32 PM MDT up reply actions
my opinion is that it really does not matter at that point
An eight run game against lincecum and their bullpen is just like being told you have horrible.cancer. its just understood. We need all their health and energy when they can be of use
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 18, 2011 10:04 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Teams do this all the time
It’s distasteful to “give up” for sure. But it is hardly a big deal. Say what you will about Tracy, but he ain’t the one to do things that are damaging to team morale, etc.
And really, if you dont want to get taken out of a game, don’t let the team get down by insurmountable leads. Sometimes you just get whooped though, no big deal.
by Teekalong on Apr 18, 2011 10:08 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
We live in an instant gratification society
If we don’t win every game, then obviously, someone’s at fault and must be replaced (in the lineup, on the roster, whatever applies in a given case).
Baseball’s not one-and-done, until the end of the season.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:10 PM MDT up reply actions
BINGO! We have a winner
“Instant gratification” is indeed the world we live in, sadly. One bad loss, and we’re turrible. So be it. And I completely agree with you on the injury thing. No point in risking the season for one game gone.
Get your purple on.
it is pretty common in a lopsided game
and one reason why managers get miffed at Coors Field on both sides —you don’t want to take out your players because there could be a chance at making the comeback or you don’t want to take them out because the other team could make a comeback. The ‘customary’ move in a laugher would be to take your main players out around the 7th inning to give them a rest and give the bench players some abs.
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by WalkInRight on Apr 18, 2011 10:19 PM MDT up reply actions
heh
it’s crunchtime!
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by WalkInRight on Apr 18, 2011 10:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Oh and
Seth Smith, when your groin is healed, we’d like you out on the baseball field. Immediately.
Spilly looks bad at the plate.
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Apr 18, 2011 10:02 PM MDT reply actions
Spilly
has regressed somewhat over the last couple of years. Good guy but he is probably in his last year here.
We can't afford to sign him anyway..
Scott Boras will ask for a bajillion dollars for his career .788 OPS.
He's John Lowenstein
And in his early 30s, he’s following the natural slow regression. I find it unlikely we even express interest in resigning him after this season. That said, he’s given us some awesome moments both on the field, and off (in commercials and such). I’ll always have a soft spot for him.
But his eventual departure won’t be shocking, just part of the natural cycle of the life of a roster. Blackmon or Garner will be taking over his spot next year, most likely.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:43 PM MDT up reply actions
My 7 year old son Ryan
will not be happy about his departure. Spilly is his favorite because he is a Ryan. I also have a like of Spilly but they are a better team when he is not in the lineup.
Agree
I honestly don’t see how Spilly hits as well as he does with that lumberjack swing. If there’s any late movement on the ball whatsoever, he’s helpless. Nice guy, but he just doesn’t give himself much of a chance at the plate.
by Northsider1964 on Apr 19, 2011 7:46 AM MDT up reply actions
Difference tween MLB and NFL..
MLB: After 16 games there’s still 146 games left.
NFL: After 16 games there’s only a lockout left.
by Charlie77 on Apr 18, 2011 10:02 PM MDT reply actions 4 recs
And, in both instances, I couldn't be happier.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 18, 2011 10:03 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Baseball and football are like yin and yang to me.
I needs both.
Our Starting Rotation >>> Your Starting Rotation
ZING!
Rec’d for truth.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:04 PM MDT up reply actions
go pack go :)
"Don't give up, don't ever give up" - Jim Valvano
by nodakroxfan on Apr 18, 2011 10:06 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I feel about the "Pack"
The same way I do about the Gints
The Colorado Rockies aren't a team, they're an armada.
ufda
That can’t be good
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by nodakroxfan on Apr 18, 2011 10:09 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
For the last 3 years
My fantasy football team has been called “Aaron Rodgers Sucks”. If there’s a season this year, it’ll be “Aaron Rodgers STILL Sucks”.
The Colorado Rockies aren't a team, they're an armada.
ah well
The kid got shellacked (which he was flirting with last game against the Mutts), Timmy is rather good, no-no and shutout avoided.
OT/ on a positive note, I watched an awesome film noir from 1947 called ‘Out of the Past’ with Robert Mitchum, Kirk Douglas & Jane Greer that I had somehow overlooked (film noir buff). It was remade as "Against All Odds’ in the 80’s but don’t hold that against it. :)
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My god Against All Odds was a horrible movie
Even if it did star Jeff Bridges, iirc.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:13 PM MDT up reply actions
yes quite quite terrible
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by WalkInRight on Apr 18, 2011 10:25 PM MDT up reply actions
We can all agree that Against All Odds was a horrible movie.
Finding consensus on the worst Phil Collins song ever, however, is likely to be more difficult.
by el campysino on Apr 18, 2011 10:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Well, it is about a 40-way tie
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Yuck..........or some word that rhymes with that
Just one of those games in a 162 game season. I want something specific in the game to be mad about but there’s really nothing that I can get on; and that’s kind of eating at me more for some reason……..I have nothing to complain about.
/sigh
I didn’t expect to win tonight with their ace going against our #5 but I was hoping it would be a fun game. Uh yeah, that didn’t work out too well. It was kinda like so yeah Timmeh>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Esmil. Nothing too earthshattering there. It sucks but you really can’t do anything but wait for the next game.
Just because I think it's awesome: Tulo vs. lefties this season.............
BA=.636 / OBP=.667 / SLG%=1.909 / OPS=2.576 / wOBA=.958 /wRC+=495
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Apr 18, 2011 10:18 PM MDT reply actions
This was the game I knew we didn't have much of a chance to win, really.
The next two, OTOH, are different stories.
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Apr 18, 2011 10:20 PM MDT up reply actions
There's always a chance
If either good Esmil or bad Timmeh showed up it would have been a fun game. But when the good #1 vs. bad #5 shows up you get a snoozer game which is really unfortunate because the games these teams usually play are so entertaining.
Just because I think it's awesome: Tulo vs. lefties this season.............
BA=.636 / OBP=.667 / SLG%=1.909 / OPS=2.576 / wOBA=.958 /wRC+=495
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Apr 18, 2011 10:22 PM MDT up reply actions
I think the next two are tossups
But only because Ubaldo hasn’t proven his full health and return against major league hitters yet. I’m confident he will, but he hasn’t shown it yet.
Wednesday? JDLR and our pen vs. Cain. Cain’s a beast. There’s no way I can favor JDLR in the matchup, though he’s certainly capable of pulling out one of his ZOMGJDLR games.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:24 PM MDT up reply actions
Yes, they're tossups.
But now clear advantages towards the Giants, like today’s game.
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Apr 18, 2011 10:24 PM MDT up reply actions
I would agree with half of that
Although Cain’s been such a beast this month, and a lifetime beast in Coors Field, that I’d say they’ve got a fairly strong advantage on Wednesday, but not nearly as big an advantage as today. But no, not a tossup, really. Cain’s pwned us harder than Timmeh has, in this park.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:31 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm fine with 13-5
That would be no worse than 2nd or 3rd best record in the major leagues. Possibly the best record.
Would rather have 14-4, but we’re going to have a good series in Florida.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:40 PM MDT up reply actions
Yes
Going into this series the way the Giants pitching lined up, I hoped for 2 but would be ok with 1. Due to the great road trip, there is some margin for a couple of losses.
Kryptonite for Cain?
Perhaps it’s Jose Lopez and/or Ty Wigginton
The Colorado Rockies aren't a team, they're an armada.
Wonder if either's faced him before
Maybe we have The Answer in our midst.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:41 PM MDT up reply actions
Spilly has the best split against Cain..
career 1.084 OPS.
CDI 1.012
Tulo .934 with 3 HRs
Lopez is 0 fer 4.
Should have read this before I posted my comment
Just because I think it's awesome: Tulo vs. lefties this season.............
BA=.636 / OBP=.667 / SLG%=1.909 / OPS=2.576 / wOBA=.958 /wRC+=495
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Apr 18, 2011 10:48 PM MDT up reply actions
I was just thinking that.
Spilly might help us this week, especially with Seth’s overworked groin bothering him.
Yeah
With Cain going on Wednesday it might just be a better idea to let Smith rest this whole series since Spilly seems like a good option in both of the next two games.
Just because I think it's awesome: Tulo vs. lefties this season.............
BA=.636 / OBP=.667 / SLG%=1.909 / OPS=2.576 / wOBA=.958 /wRC+=495
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Apr 18, 2011 10:53 PM MDT up reply actions
And he is in fact available to PH if the scenario comes up
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Mr. Late Night
Just because I think it's awesome: Tulo vs. lefties this season.............
BA=.636 / OBP=.667 / SLG%=1.909 / OPS=2.576 / wOBA=.958 /wRC+=495
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Apr 18, 2011 11:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Tulo Spilly and Iannetta all hit Cain pretty well
Just because I think it's awesome: Tulo vs. lefties this season.............
BA=.636 / OBP=.667 / SLG%=1.909 / OPS=2.576 / wOBA=.958 /wRC+=495
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Apr 18, 2011 10:47 PM MDT up reply actions
That's what I'm thinking
Should be two pretty good games though
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JFK
yes.
And why I bought tix to both. GO ROX
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by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:31 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't know about toss ups.
The Giants still have to prove they can hit good pitching. They haven’t been stellar this year at doing that, and tonight was not an example of that.
by DumbAndNerdy on Apr 18, 2011 10:25 PM MDT up reply actions
They don't.
Well, usually.
Now, where’s my umbrella?
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by victor frankenstein on Apr 19, 2011 12:40 AM MDT up reply actions
Just got back from Coors
It was probably the funnest blow-out that I ever experienced. After the absurdity of the first three innings, cheering on Mortenson was great. He looked very sharp. It was also enjoyable to root against the no-hitter. There was a huge cheer for Cargo’s hit and Todd’s RBI double.
One great note for the fans was that the place was still pretty full in the 9th inning. I felt that this showed a genuine love for the team.
Also, after going to back-to-back games,
Giants fans, though annoying, are not even near as bad as Cubs fans. Outside of a heated Bonds debate, there was little besides friendly banter from those around me. I think most of them knew that tonight was basic a fluke blowup from a #6 pitcher and are not underestimating what the Rockies have.
by DumbAndNerdy on Apr 18, 2011 10:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Having been a visiting fan at AT&T before
I can agree with this. Sure, Giants fans are obnoxious in the way that all fans are, but they were hospitable. Now their team, on the other hand, I have some major gripes with.
Unfortunately it seems not all was rosy at the Can.
Coors Field, get it? The Can?
Whew, tough crowd
/adjusts necktie
Apparently, two Giant fans – an MCCer and his father – were getting some ribbing from a local. The father responded in kind, but it escalated into profanity. At that point the local called security. When he didn’t get the result he wanted he called the police. That got them removed from their seats, but only because the police just wanted to diffuse the situation.
Also, there is now a very well done .gif that features both Lincecum and Tulowitzki.
The guy who made it is a professional video editor.
He’s also a Giant fan, which is quite apparent.
If you have an open mind and a sense of humor you’ll enjoy it.
If you don’t…my condolences.
I won’t post it here, but my e – mail’s in my profile.
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Barry Bonds: "I did."
Prosecutor: "GAH!"
by victor frankenstein on Apr 19, 2011 12:53 AM MDT up reply actions
The Can moniker already belongs to our beloved Pepsi Center
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props to mortensen tonight
Helluva effort from him
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by nodakroxfan on Apr 18, 2011 10:22 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Rogers against Lincecum
Honestly, an 8-1 loss is about what we would’ve expected before the season, but I think 12-3 gave us some unrealistic optimism about our chances tonight. Oh well, we still have a 3-game lead, let’s go get the next two games.
The Colorado Rockies aren't a team, they're an armada.
So their ace beat our rookie
There was some damned good pitching tonight. First by Lincecum, then by Mortensen. Both bullpens will be relatively fresh tomorrow and it should be a good battle. Bottom line: we need Ubaldo to be back to being Ubaldo.
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Being 12-4 isn't so bad.
Neither is a total of five wins from games started by the 6th, 7th, and nth starters. The Rockies could as easily be 7-9, given the injuries to the rotation.
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Can he hit RH pitching?
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by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:39 PM MDT up reply actions
In that case, we should be able to sign him cheaply.
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by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:53 PM MDT up reply actions
Won't get one after the end of the lockout
Not unless the CFL opens its checkbook.
If there’s one massive change the owners will probably come away with, it will be the end of the massive bonus guarantees to top draft choices. (Though the owners will lose hard when it comes to what they want to do with overall salaries for players under five years experience.)
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:55 PM MDT up reply actions
12-4 is good for a bye into the divisional playoffs. We await the winner between Baltimore and New York.
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by Franchise26 on Apr 18, 2011 10:43 PM MDT up reply actions
and the end of the three year lockout.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:44 PM MDT up reply actions
So, apparently Pat Burrell asked Bochy to take him out for a defensive replacement
as the latter innings approached in the no hit bid.
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So Pat Burrell waved the white flag.
/erm
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by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:55 PM MDT up reply actions
So I'm not the only lurker there?
/harrumph
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by victor frankenstein on Apr 19, 2011 12:55 AM MDT up reply actions
Another nice note on a bad night: 31,079 tonight on a chilly evening with the threat of rain.
Not bad.
This is a big deal
because maybe it allows them to add salary for the stretch run. Personally I would love to see Reyes at 2b for the last 45 games during a salary drive.
I don't think we add Reyes
He’s a SS, and I doubt that the asking price will be within our range. Also, the Mets aren’t going to have a yard sale on their core players.
Rocktober is not a time of year, it is a religion.
The Mets may have a fire sale where nobody is off limits from what I'm hearing out of New York
The entire thing may have to be blown up.
Just because I think it's awesome: Tulo vs. lefties this season.............
BA=.636 / OBP=.667 / SLG%=1.909 / OPS=2.576 / wOBA=.958 /wRC+=495
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Apr 18, 2011 10:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Doesn't sound quite like Sandy Alderson, but you never know.
by el campysino on Apr 18, 2011 10:55 PM MDT up reply actions
The whole thing is such a mess nothing would surprise me at this point
Just because I think it's awesome: Tulo vs. lefties this season.............
BA=.636 / OBP=.667 / SLG%=1.909 / OPS=2.576 / wOBA=.958 /wRC+=495
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Apr 18, 2011 10:56 PM MDT up reply actions
With that said I don't think there's any way we get Reyes but I bet he moves somewhere before the season is over
Just because I think it's awesome: Tulo vs. lefties this season.............
BA=.636 / OBP=.667 / SLG%=1.909 / OPS=2.576 / wOBA=.958 /wRC+=495
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Apr 18, 2011 10:55 PM MDT up reply actions
The Mets *will* have a fire sale when they can no longer meet payroll
Don’t lose sight of the Madoff-related lawsuit. The Mets are in deep financial trouble completely independent of any on field success or not this season.
And they have zero intention of re-signing Reyes. He will absolutely become available. Does he actually make sense for us? I dunno. But he won’t be finishing the season in NYC in any circumstance.
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by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 10:57 PM MDT up reply actions
My point
is that the Rox will be players on July 31st if we keep filling the place. I do not know who else is out there and Reyes came quickly to mind.
I agree we'll be players if we're in it
But we won’t take on a bad contract (this doesn’t apply re Reyes, of course), and we won’t move our foundational future guys to do it.
And we also won’t make a move just for the sake of making a move to assuage a fanbase. But if there’s an identifiable need, and a trade that can satisfy that need without taking on bad contracts, then yeah, I’m convinced they’ll push the button.
If the available options at the time are not good fits, and won’t actually make us a better club, then they’ll stand pat.
Lot of time between now and then, and the list of potential players on the block isn’t even close to coming into focus.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 11:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Its funny
How much prospects are valued these days as trade chips. Even the Yankees are shifting their strategies finally. The days of Finley, Schilling, and Harnisch for Glen Davis are long gone. Though the Rangers haul for Texiera a few years ago was pretty good.
No doubt
But to be fair, we have few truly untouchables (Rosario, Matzek, ???)
I think it’s more an issue where we’re not going to move someone like a Blackmon or Brothers for someone who’d be leaving in two months, since the club is actively counting on cycling in players like that to be able to have us afford to pay Tulo and Cargo, and extend Ubaldo, etc.
We’ll trade good talent, but only for cost-controlled, or team-controlled and affordable, talent.
But it seems clear that EY2 will be a very useable trade chip, even if there’s a cap on the level of talent he’ll bring back.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
by Mondogarage on Apr 18, 2011 11:14 PM MDT up reply actions
I actually think he makes sense for the Giants
Just because I think it's awesome: Tulo vs. lefties this season.............
BA=.636 / OBP=.667 / SLG%=1.909 / OPS=2.576 / wOBA=.958 /wRC+=495
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Apr 18, 2011 11:01 PM MDT up reply actions
That would not be good
He is on a salary drive and I believe will be a big difference maker for whoever picks him up.
Freddy Sanchez. There's only so much modern medicine can do.
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by victor frankenstein on Apr 19, 2011 12:57 AM MDT up reply actions
I doubt it also
but he is in his walk year and the team does not have the money to resign him. Stick him at 3rd if you have to. Point is the Mets will likely move him and if the folks come out, the Monforts have demonstrated the last couple of years that they would add payroll for the stretch run.
Forget Reyes
I would include my left nut in gift wrapped package if meant getting Wright
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Apr 18, 2011 11:35 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Not a huge fan of Reyes
Always injured, and a lazy defender (at least it always seems that way when I see him play)
It will be interesting to see what happens at the trade deadline.
It’s hard to know what the team will need then. (Right now, a productive 3B would be nice, but I keeping hoping that Stew will figure out the see the ball/hit the ball thing, whether in Denver or Colorado Springs.)
"Are they called the Rockies because they rock?" - 7 y.o.
If Stew actually figures it out, does this club really even have any glaring holes?
(assuming Herrera comes back to earth but is still OPSning in the mid to high .700s.)
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MLB Network listing guys who need to find a spot in the lineup
Kind of a SSS roster. Jonny Herrera is #4 on the list.
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He has a spot in the lineup
It’s the 2nd spot: Herrera-4
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by RoarFrom112 on Apr 18, 2011 10:57 PM MDT up reply actions
You'd have to see the report . It was an interesting
little study.. And yes I’m aware that Herrera as a spot in the lineup.
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Speaking of the Humidor...
Great article on this (ironic) blog: http://bit.ly/fo0Wux
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Just because I think it's awesome: Tulo vs. lefties this season.............
BA=.667 / OBP=.688 / SLG%=1.833 / OPS=2.521 / wOBA=.956 /wRC+=495 / HR/AB=33% / K%=0
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Apr 19, 2011 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions
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