Counting Rocks: Don't Let The Handlebar Fool You
Chris Iannetta fascinates many at the Row, myself included - and I'm not easily impressed ("Wow! A blue car!"). Few Rockies players have inspired as much disappointment, frustration or unabashed fandom as CDI, and his start to 2011 probably hasn't changed minds all that much. The question seems to be, albeit through only 52 plate appearances (prior to Tuesday's game), what is more real: the .211 BA, or the .423 OBP?
It seems highly probable that neither is real, and it goes without saying (but I'll say it anyway) that 52 plate appearances is nothing. Yet, I can't help be impressed with the .6 fWAR thus far on the season. Still further, I'm perplexed 34% K rate. Is our protagonist (antagonist?) doomed to be forever an enigma? 1. Let's hope not. 2. Let's talk about it ...
Despite the poor BA, CDI is off to a much better start than 2010. Last season, he didn't accumulate 52 PAs until June 13, at which point he was osting a triple slash of .192/.288/.327 and coming off a demotion to AAA. Historically, April has been his worst month hitting for average (.199 in 191 ABs), but his best month for drawing walks (16.5%). It's also his worst month for strikeouts (36.1%).
Turning to 2011, the number that jumps out is CDI's 36% overall swing rate. For some perspective, that's 8% lower than Iannetta's full-season low (2008-44%), and 9.5% lower than the current league average (45.5%). His swinging strike rate, 7.9%, is also well below his career rate (10.8%). He's undoubtedly looking to take walks, which somewhat validates the 23.1% BB rate (as I write this, he just walked on 6 or 7 pitches from Sanchez, then ducked slightly in front of Posey as he threw to a vacant second base attempting to get Wigginton).
"Only somewhat" because the highest walk rate for 2010 was 16% (Fielder and Barton). It would be fun to make-believe that he'll continue to walk in 23.1% of his at bats, but even I'm not that much of an Iannetta enthusiast.
More sobering, but still exciting, is the ZiPS RoS projections, which has Iannetta putting up a .241/.363/.459 line the rest of the way. That should satisfy most Rockies fans, and would make for a very productive 8th hitter (although lots of those walks would go to waste in front of the pitcher). The ZiPS projection includes a more than acceptable 13.9% BB rate, and reduced 27.8% K rate. Those numbers are remarkably similar to CDI's 2008 BB and K rates, and if ZiPS projected him for a few more PAs, his counting stats would also look similar to 2008.
ZiPS sees a .282 BABIP going forward, which might be a bit optimistic. All of the pre-season projection systems on Fangraphs foresaw a more robust BABIP (between .268 and .288) than Iannetta has posted since his banner year in 2008 (.311). While it's difficult to imagine CDI replicating the .212 BABIP of 2010, it's not easy to imagine him posting a number above his current career average of .271.
This is not to say that he can't be as productive as 2008, but maybe a .261 BA is not part of CDI's portfolio. The likelihood of a ball in play becoming a hit goes LD > GB > FB. CDI hit a fair amount of fly balls in 2009 and 2010, and his LD rate decreased dramatically from 2008 to 2010 (from 21.4% to 13.5%). It makes sense that he doesn't post pretty BAs. It's more likely that his LD% recovers to the 2008 mark than his BABIP, but they won't necessarily move in step.
One thing working in CDI's favor going forward (or to his current disadvantage), is that, much as his BB% won't be otherworldly all year, he probably won't continue posting a 15.4% infield FB rate. As that normalizes in the coming weeks, more of those poorly hit balls will be distributed into LD, GB, or FB. That may result in a higher BA (and better counting stats), or into some combination of walks, power, and outs, but hopefully not many outs. One of the few, consistently encouraging things about CDI (other than his ability to get on base) is that he hits for power when he makes contact (career 14% HR/FB, between 14-18% in the last three years). If more of the IFFB become FB than anything else, CDI may not see an increase in BA but he has a good chance to boost his power numbers.
If that is what happens - more power and outs mixed in with the walks - it's not a bad outcome. From a traditionalist perspective, it's hard to see CDI moving up past 7th in the lineup if that profile comes to fruition over the rest of the season. But, unless you're looking for a higher BA and better counting power numbers, there's a lot of reason to be excited about that possibility and CDI's performance thus far.
The patience reflects a good approach at the plate, despite the high K rate. As seen above, that is a typical CDI April. More doubles would be nice, but he seems more likely to earn a walk than smack a double. His 2010 numbers show that a change in his approach (away from patience, and toward attempting to smash the ball) would not necessarily result in the player seen in 2008.
As CDI's 2011 batted ball profile changes, and his swing rates normalize, he could become a number of different things. If the ZiPS projects hold true, but are played out over more PAs, fans should be happy and there'll be much less angst over the catcher position than there was heading into 2010 and 2011.
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It is valuable that
he seems to be really good at clearing the pitcher spot in the lineup.
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Agreed
I think the “walks go to waste in front of the pitcher” is a bit off. It either prevents to pitcher from leading off the next inning, or gives the pitcher a chance at a productive out bunting him over. I see the 8th spot as a very important spot in the order.
I completely agree that the walk isn't actually "waste[d]"
as turning over the order and preventing the pitcher from leading off the next inning is valuable.
I didn’t want to come off as overstating the importance or reaching for positives, but it is a positive.
It's situational
If there are no runners on and 2 outs, walking in front of the pitchers spot is a great idea. If there are runners on and fewer than 2 outs, it’s also usually good because it allows the pitcher’s spot to be cleared with a sac bunt. However, if, like Tuesday night, there are runners on and 2 outs a bit more aggressiveness is called for in the 8-hole. There’s probably even more nuance to it depending on the score and the potential for a pinch hitter to lead off the next inning if the pitchers spot is not cleared, but these are some good examples.
Still, the fact that over 50% of the time he either walks or strikes out (26.8% K, 25.0% BB this year, baseball reference) is astonishing and suggests he’s still being a bit too passive at the plate.
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Great post
I was thinking the same thing the other day…“Swing the damn bat son!” But overall he’s been fine for an 8 hole hitter. And, overall, he is what we know he is: a very patient hitter with a good eye and a ton of power but a pretty suspect bat. I can’t deny I’m a bit disappointed with him as my fantasy catcher, and he’s been ho-hum overall as my team’s catcher, but at least you can say he isn’t bad. Still a ton of room for improvement though.
Has his defense improved?
It seems like I’ve heard more favorable things said about his game calling, blocking, and throwing than in the past.
Have not noticed defense as a weakness for CDI
I don’t think CDI has been criticized very much for his defense. The Rox management like his game/pitch calling, and he handles himself well in other areas. The concern was that last year he was usually batting not much better than the pitcher. As pointed out here, he seems to have improved his plate discipline, and is contributing offensively more this year. Good to see!
It would be interesting to see how his defensive numbers stack up against his alter ego, Jose Morales as the season progresses. Morales claimed some RBIs against the Gints, and his offense seems generally a little stronger than CDI so far. Can the kid displace CDI?
by Real Perspective on Apr 21, 2011 2:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Iannetta has been hands-down better on offense
Ignore the .200 AVG – it’s a useless number. He’s been getting on base and hitting for power, which is 2 more things than most catchers give you.
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Morales has been getting on base just as well,
BABIP driven or no, his OBP has been step for step with Iannetta’s so far and given that it’s contact oriented is actually a little stronger. Power is the only separation between the two right now, and that clearly is in Iannetta’s favor.
I didn't even notice Morales' excellent OBP so far.
Really nice to have that from the 8-hole
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This is a good point
While Iannetta’s K% bothers me, our 8-hole production is really not bad either way. It’s the 3, 6, and/or 7 we have to worry about at the moment. If Iannetta’s OBP regresses, it’d be something to worry about.
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He was more aggressive early in counts when he was hitting well...
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It's his receding hairline.
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He's still hitting a ton of fly balls though
and not a lot of line drives. He did this a lot in the minors too if I remember correctly, so I’m not sure how optimistic we can be that he’ll start hitting a lot of line drives – though his current rate of 10% can (and hopefully will) rise.
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Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that I thought his LD% would rise dramatically
Just that it is more likely to return to the 2008 level (or rise in general) than his BABIP is to return to the 2008 level.
I’m intrigued to see how the high percentage of IFFB plays out once that normalizes… the distribution that 6-8% of balls in play could determine what becomes of CDI’s 2011 season.
I think it's important to make CDI our starting C
He came into this season expecting to be the team’s starting catcher, and so far, while his BA could be higher, he’s proven decent as an 8 hole hitter via the power and walks. With some more PA’s, his BA should improve.
Throwing Morales in there too often and we risk not tapping into CDI’s full potential.
However, you can’t deny that Morales has been doing well all things considered, so at this point giving CDI two/three starts and Morales one start per every three/four games seems like a good mix.
If Lopez doesn’t come around offensively, I wonder how comfortable Morales would be at 3rd? He should have good foot work and defense if he’s a 2B (which he is) and given he’s a catcher I’m sure he’s got the arm strength to play 3B.
I really don't think there's any danger of us throwing Morales out there too often
For one thing, yes, he’s a “hitting first” catcher, but one without much power, and his current numbers are quite SSS. Yes, he’s been doing well in that role, and Tracy hasn’t given any indication he even has an inkling of changing.
That said, while you make a pretty good assessment of Morales’ raw tools to play 3B, I don’t think anyone wants to see him at 3B unless he’s at least had a spring training or an offseason working out there, first. If Ian can’t make it back, you’d be far likelier to see Wigginton become the full time 3B before Morales even got a shot there, imho.
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by victor frankenstein on Apr 22, 2011 4:04 AM MDT reply actions
Now, I didn't actually bother to read the article
But here’s my laundry list of gut-feeling grievances with Chris Iannetta and why I think he’s terrible.
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Stop piling on.
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by victor frankenstein on Apr 22, 2011 2:58 PM MDT up reply actions
hey I'll pile on my favorite player all I want.
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by Andrew Martin on Apr 22, 2011 4:58 PM MDT up reply actions

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