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Saturday Rockpile: Thoughts on Last Night's Game - Street, Morales, Road Offense - Plus More

I suppose I'll spend the first few paragraphs talking about the game last night, as I didn't participate in the game thread and AMart was understandably too annoyed to go real in-depth in the wrap. The biggest reason, though, is that I just want to vent about the game a little bit.

For the second time this season, the Rockies failed to win a game that went into extra frames, losing to the Pirates in 14 last night. (not) Coincidentally, it was also their second loss of the season altogether. Of course, the difference between last night and the opening day loss is that the Rox completely used up/obliterated their bullpen, and were left with nothing to show for it. Huston Street, for instance, pitched three innings last night - falling just an out short of the longest outing of his career, a 3 1/3-inning effort way back in 2005. The silver lining in that, however, is that Street managed to throw just 27 pitches - which is actually five less than what he threw on April 2nd. But, the difference in this case is that he received two off-days directly following that appearance, whereas the Rockies won't really have that luxury this time around unless they have two blowout losses, two blowout wins, or a combination of both.

The largest annoyance about the game to me, other than the obvious issues that the Rockies had in generating any offense for 13 innings after the first, was that Franklin Morales didn't throw a pitch anywhere near the strike zone to a light-hitting utility infielder with Jose Tabata, who had already homered and hit several balls with authority, looming on deck. Morales got through the first two batters of the inning with relative ease, but apparently was rattled (how many times do we have to use this word to describe this guy?) after colliding with Ty Wigginton and almost blowing a routine infield pop up but still getting the second out. He started blatantly overthrowing and walked Josh Rodriguez on four pitches, then couldn't find the zone against Tabata before laying one in there for Tabata to apparently crush to right field (I thought it looked like a pop-up off the bat at the time, but I was also pretty tired, having watched the game for five hours).

I'm probably making too much of all of this - especially this early in the season - but, in my defense, I think we're all a little worried about the fact that the Rockies' same old road offensive woes reared their ugly head last night (15 K's, the aforementioned no runs after the first inning, Carlos Gonzalez swinging at garbage). Anyway, I don't want to sit here and beat a dead horse, so I'll move on. Enjoy that beautifully-wrapped gift you received last night, Pirates. (hopefully) It won't happen again.

Some morning links after the jump...

Star-divide

MLB announces Manny Ramirez is retiring after drug issue - ESPN
The next time I get caught doing something wrong, this is probably the approach I'm going to take.

Helton has knack for digging balls out of the dirt - The Denver Post
Old Todd has already made a number of great plays a first base this season. Unfortunately, all that bending down that the infielders' low throws have been forcing him to do is really stiffening up that back (I'm sure that's not the only reason, but just go along with it).

Rangers Sign Manny Corpas: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com
Good for Manny. We'll see if he can regain his form in 2012.

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So the bad news: our road offense was not good. Alright.

The good news: our bullpen is awesome, until the last guy we have collides with someone.
Also, our only losses have been extra inning losses.

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by prettyinpurple on Apr 9, 2011 9:38 AM MDT reply actions  

Bryan

Who do you think managed a better game last night…Tracy or Hurdle ?

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by butterfly on Apr 9, 2011 9:40 AM MDT reply actions  

Trick question

they’re the same thing.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 9, 2011 9:45 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

I know people are down on Tracy

for pitching to Tabata when Pittsburgh only had pitchers left on the bench. But keep in that Frankie Mo had totally lost the strike zone. What if Tracy intentionally walks Tabata, then Morales can’t throw a strike to the next hitter? Then you have bases loaded for McCutchen.

Woudn’t have complained if Tracy had walked Tabata, but I don’t think it’s as obvious of a move as some are making it out to be.

by Northsider1964 on Apr 9, 2011 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

thanks...:)

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by butterfly on Apr 9, 2011 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

I disagree

While your point is sound, with two outs, I pitch to a relief pitcher over Tabata, Cutch be damned.

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 9, 2011 10:38 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Fair enough

I may give Tabata a pass and pitch to the relief pitcher as well. But it’s a much easier decision if I don’t have the human walk/balk machine on the mound.

by Northsider1964 on Apr 9, 2011 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

I imagine hurdle would have him taking until armageddon

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 9, 2011 10:50 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm picturing something like

The walk the Giants issued to Adam Eaton right before the Spilly Slam. Sometimes when a guy can’t find the plate, it doesn’t much matter who’s in the batter’s box.

But like i said, I don’t think it’s a slam dunk move either way. As Hurdle proved by walking Tulo, sometimes the open base doesn’t necessarily have to be first base and an intentional walk that pushed runners up works beautifully. Other times, you look like an idiot.

by Northsider1964 on Apr 9, 2011 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

to say that frankie mo had lost the strike zone

implies that he ever had it

you still have to play the game, no matter how shiny liriano's FIP is

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by papality on Apr 9, 2011 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well Morales looked good on Wednesday

And he did get two quick outs last night. But then in Rodriguez’s at-bat, we saw the evil Frankie Mo and then some – nothing even close to the plate. I think that played into Tracy’s thinking, and it’s the main reason he didn’t walk Tabata. With Frankie Mo’s body temp already at 105 degrees, why push a runner into scoring position?

And hell it’s not like the Rockies necessarily win if he wiggles out of the 14th, given the scoring drought they were on.

by Northsider1964 on Apr 9, 2011 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

can we put him out to pasture already?

dude is pretty clearly not a major leaguer and never will be. There is probably 20 middling journeyman relievers out there that could provide better end of the bullpen depth than Morales.

by jungle jiminez on Apr 9, 2011 1:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

Uhh, did you watch his outing before last night?

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by hjrrockies on Apr 9, 2011 1:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

Besides

Belisle walked two, should we cut him too?

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by hjrrockies on Apr 9, 2011 1:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

Major difference

Belisle was getting pinched and his pitches were close.

Morales was a far away from PNC’s home plate after the popup, as my house is from Coors Field PNC’s home plate.

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by Mondogarage on Apr 9, 2011 1:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

I know, but it's not like one inning can ever be a sign that a player isn't a "major leaguer"

A few different pitches last night, and we could be praising Morales from working out of a jam and helping us win the game.

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by hjrrockies on Apr 9, 2011 2:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

I get what you're saying, however...

….his history shows a player who simply does not have the poise to get himself out of jams. He’s very easily rattled, and he doesn’t have a good baseball head. Which is precisely why his popup misplay led to his inability to find the broadside of a barn with his next four pitches, thus leading to grooving one to Tabata.

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by Mondogarage on Apr 9, 2011 2:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

Correlation is not causation

I have no doubt that the popup misplay played a part, but I think that the core problem is that his delivery isn’t repeated correctly often enough.

I think Morales has a long way to go, but last night is not the damning inning that dooms him to a fate as a no-control headcase.

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by hjrrockies on Apr 9, 2011 2:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm not damning him on the last inning

I’m damning him on the balance of 2008-2011. He simply does not have the poise to handle the role. However, no sense rushing Rex Brothers. But I don’t want to see Morales still on the roster at the end of the season, if we’re in a playoff hunt.

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by Mondogarage on Apr 9, 2011 2:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm no fan of Franklin Morales

And it’s frustrating that he walked the winning run. But somebody had to finally win that game, and the Rockies’ offense seemed determined not to. Nearly five freaking hours of being shut out by the Pirates’ bullpen? Can’t expect to win that one no matter who’s on the mound in the 14th.

by Northsider1964 on Apr 9, 2011 9:42 AM MDT reply actions  

Yeah, I've been saddled with the burden of that thought, as well. I agree with you.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 9, 2011 9:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

This exactly.

How many times did Cargo, Tulo, Smith & Ianetta get hits? Oh, that’s right, 0. Not one between them in 14 innings. Street looked better at the plate than they did half the time. That’s why we lost the game.

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by DAWNMARIE01 on Apr 9, 2011 1:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

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by jrockies on Apr 9, 2011 9:43 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Carney better earn his paycheck

right here. nip this in the bud today . lousy plate approaches

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by El Paso Jeff on Apr 9, 2011 9:44 AM MDT reply actions  

Yeah! Never mind that the Rockies have scored 10 runs on the road over 2 games this season. Get your crap together, Lansford!

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 9, 2011 10:39 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't know that he was taking a shot at Lansford

so much as pointing out that last night epitomizes exactly why he was hired: get a 3-run lead against a bad team, and everybody gets pull-happy and starts swinging from the heels. Fixing it before it plagues them for the entire road trip is Carney’s main charge.

by Northsider1964 on Apr 9, 2011 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

True, but it was one game. Cargo isn’t going to go 0-for-the road.

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 9, 2011 10:58 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

I actually thought Carlos

Made a nice adjustment after posting a couple of horrendous ABs. On the smash to the SS and on the deep drive to left-center, he went with the pitch instead of trying to pull it – just came up empty. But a lot of guys threw away ABs last night, there’s just no way around that. Personally, I’m much more confident that Lansford will address it promptly than I would have been last season.

by Northsider1964 on Apr 9, 2011 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

I wasn't trying to take a shot at Langsford

but pointing out that a major reason he was brought on to “fix us” on the road

Whether that fix comes in the way of just a different voice or approach or the mental side of the road hitting woes, I am very interested to see how they adjust over the stretch of the season.

I too enjoy a good SSS overreaction tho, no hard feelings A MArt, I love the snark back

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by El Paso Jeff on Apr 9, 2011 1:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm not convinced that a coaching change will "fix" a simple truth.

The Rockies hitting simply isn’t as good as we think, like it or not. The pitching is the stronger half of the team, by far.

I doubt that they will show as large of a home-road split (in terms of park-adjusted numbers), but I don’t see the hitting as being higher than slightly above-average.

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by hjrrockies on Apr 9, 2011 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

I can agree with the "not as good as we think" perhaps

I want to see us become more consistent in our hitting approach; home/away, ahead or behind on the east coast or on the west, before the all-star break and after.

And that will be offense sufficient for this excellent pitching staff I hope we have.

I like what I see early in alot of hitting situations but last night was the old Achilles’s heel rearing its ugly head.

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by El Paso Jeff on Apr 9, 2011 2:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think we all like the word "consistency."

But does “consistency” really matter? I just want wins. In the end, it doesn’t matter if they rake for 98 games and get no-hit the rest. Heck, maybe game-to-game “consistency” is worse – you are always on the border between winning and losing, and your 1-run game record can get flukey.

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by hjrrockies on Apr 9, 2011 2:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

The fact that we have some very mediocre hitters

Is not lost on me. But it’s exactly why these guys need to go with the pitch and not make hitting any harder than it already is. They had done a pretty fair job of that until last night, when everyone seemed to want to match Giambino’s HR on a night when the ball wasn’t carrying. I don’t think Lansford is going to turn anyone into an All-Star if they aren’t already, but I do think he can stop some key players from becoming a black hole in the lineup.

by Northsider1964 on Apr 9, 2011 2:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't hate winning a World Series

But pitching is the team’s strength. No doubt.

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by hjrrockies on Apr 9, 2011 4:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

Lansford/Langsford- potatoe/ potato

Both of you DFA-NO SOUP FOR YOU!

Ok naw,come back, your coo

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by El Paso Jeff on Apr 9, 2011 2:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

PFP's pitchers, PFP

I don’t know how often something like this happens but there is a reason pitchers are supposed to get out of the way on pop ups, to avoid injury. I didn’t see that play because I was working but that picture tells the whole story.

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by jrockies on Apr 9, 2011 9:45 AM MDT reply actions  

Yeah, it's a golden rule for pitchers that they need to let somebody else take pop-ups.

I mean, the out was made and it’s purely speculative on my part to say that the result of the play was Morales becoming rattled, but still…the last thing you want there is an injury or something of the sort.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 9, 2011 9:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

He didn't throw a single decent pitch afterwards.

His psyche is more fragile than tissue paper.

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by Mondogarage on Apr 9, 2011 9:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

I’m interested to see how he rebounds from this.

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 9, 2011 10:40 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

He'll rebound how he always does ..

Pitch tentatively, get his control back and then fold at the first sign of pressure.

by Charlie77 on Apr 9, 2011 11:19 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

On the bright side

The BABIP dragon should be more kind to us today

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by WalkerFan33 on Apr 9, 2011 9:57 AM MDT via mobile reply actions  

Good point

Carlos Gonzalez put the hurt on a couple of pitches later in the game, but had nothing to show for it. Stupid, stupid game.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 9, 2011 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

My only hope

Is that we just experienced the stupidest game of the entire season.

by CarRo2010 on Apr 9, 2011 10:06 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

In other news

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by Yokel on Apr 9, 2011 10:09 AM MDT reply actions  

Any word on toddfather and stew

Will they be able to play tonight?

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by WalkerFan33 on Apr 9, 2011 10:11 AM MDT via mobile reply actions  

Stew came in the game as a PH, he should be fine, it was "flu like symptoms"

More worried about Todd, but i don’t think he PH’s last night if he truly can’t go at all.

But my guess is we see Stewie at 3B and Wiggy at 1B tonight.

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by Mondogarage on Apr 9, 2011 10:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

If they are able to go

It’s nice to know that we only have three guys that have to go the whole game today. our depth is so good we have quality major leaguers that can play at the other positions

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by WalkerFan33 on Apr 9, 2011 10:16 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Haven't seen anything yet...

That’s the reason I waited until 9:30 to post the Rockpile – I was hoping to find an update on Todd, at the least, to be able to include in the write-up.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 9, 2011 10:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

Welp

as long and as frustrating as our game was last night, at least we weren’t the Padres v Dodgers.

They had 4 rain delays, and finally called the game at 2-2 in the 9th inning at 1:40am PT. They are going to resume the game at 5:30 pm tonight before tonight’s already scheduled game. Upshot of this…what the heck were the umpires thinking?

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by SDcat09 on Apr 9, 2011 10:20 AM MDT reply actions  

Sorry, meant to include the link

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/apr/08/rain-sends-padres-dodgers-wee-hours-tied-2-2/

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by SDcat09 on Apr 9, 2011 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

So last night

I had a dream that me and my siblings were at some Rockies camp where they teach you one on one or something. Everyone drew randomly to see who they got, and I got Cargo, but my other three siblings got Tulo, so I traded with my sister. My brothers were bummed.

So I asked Tulo what he thought of the purple jerseys, and he said “I like them but I don’t love them”. And then he said something about making them vests would be cooler or something.

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by prettyinpurple on Apr 9, 2011 10:36 AM MDT reply actions  

Thanks for posting that link.!!

I was kinda referring to that with my question above, but I didn’t elaborate..

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by butterfly on Apr 9, 2011 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

I personally think that Tracy and Hurdle were playing a game within a game..

What do you think ?

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by butterfly on Apr 9, 2011 11:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Hurdle may have been

I don’t really know if Tracy was duped or not. I kinda think that he wasn’t 100% confident in Morales being able to find the zone after IBB someone or in our offense being able to score ever. Shoot, maybe he was secretly ready to let the game end and knew all along what was going to happen…

by MissR on Apr 9, 2011 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

I know I was ready for the game to end.

I was secretly hoping Street would hit it out in his at bat and get the win for himself all by himself.

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by DAWNMARIE01 on Apr 9, 2011 1:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hehe

I was actually rooting for 22 innings. Or getting to see a position player pitch.
I would’ve been cool with that, though.

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by prettyinpurple on Apr 9, 2011 1:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

Street actually played quite a bit of 3B

At U. of Texas, when he wasn’t on the mound. He was a terrible hitter by Big XII standards, but at least he knows what it’s like to be in the lineup for real live ABs.

by Northsider1964 on Apr 9, 2011 1:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

'light" hitt Jose Tabata may not be all star caliber; I distincly remember him hurting us several time last year.

   He maybe one of those guys that just has our number. I hope he doesn’t get traded westward.

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by Oldfoagie on Apr 9, 2011 1:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think the "light hitter" referred to is Rodriguez

Not Tabata. I think you are misreading that sentence in the article above.

by Northsider1964 on Apr 9, 2011 1:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

Correct...I was referring to Rodriguez.

I wouldn’t classify Tabata as a light-hitter at all…in fact, he has a very good chance at becoming a solid big leaguer.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 9, 2011 2:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

So that was crappy..

but things could be worse.

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by hotdoglady on Apr 9, 2011 10:59 AM MDT reply actions  

Yeah, we could have Greg Reynolds making his first start in 2.5 seasons with a shot bullpen.

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by Muzia on Apr 9, 2011 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Pirates 13, Rockies 2

I’d be indifferent, as long as we can get a split by winning tomorrow.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 9, 2011 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

OTOH, Morton sucks something fierce

It could be a barnburner today

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by Muzia on Apr 9, 2011 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

He pitched pretty well in his first start

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 9, 2011 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

the Cards don't have a lineup so far this season

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by Muzia on Apr 9, 2011 11:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

I remember Morton looked pretty nasty

And was able to hold the Rockies down at Coors a few years ago.

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by CentralCaliRox on Apr 9, 2011 1:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

On a good day

his stuff can be pretty salty…

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by Junction Rox on Apr 9, 2011 1:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

His career numbers are as bad as Greg Reynolds', but over a much larger sample size

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by Mondogarage on Apr 9, 2011 1:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm just saying don't be surprised if he owns us today

Regardless of those #’s. Offense looked bad last night.

Here’s hoping they shake off that performance yesterday and come alive.

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by CentralCaliRox on Apr 9, 2011 2:35 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Why? They won yesterday :(

but I see your point :)

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by SDcat09 on Apr 9, 2011 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

I put together a full list of Rockies on twitter today

Find it here, and it is listed on the front page at the bottom of the lefthand sidebar. If anyone has any additions/subtractions, let me know

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 9, 2011 11:17 AM MDT reply actions  

I just read a Denver Post article

It said JDLR left the game with a recurrance of his blister injury. How did that go unnoticed durng the broadcast? (unless I fell asleep during that part of the game, I don’t recall it being brought up)

by ddavis539 on Apr 9, 2011 12:00 PM MDT reply actions  

I left briefly to have dinner with a few friends,

so I was only following via mobile phone at that time. With that being said, I never heard it mentioned on the broadcast after that.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 9, 2011 12:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

Because he left just before the toyota twitterpating scrolling inning

And the entire ROOT network was preoccupied with technical difficulties re same

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by Mondogarage on Apr 9, 2011 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

Rec'd for the awesomeness of the sad truth of it all

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by Mondogarage on Apr 9, 2011 2:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

I logged in at work

Just to turn this green. Someone just barely beat me to it.

So, so irritating and banal with that whole texttwitterbyToyota thing. I don’t need to read every person in the world saying “Where’s Clint Brames and Brad Hop? Love Caro Tulu and Uabaldo. GO ROCKIES!!!!” when I’m trying to focus on the game.

Also, is it just me, or is ROOT even more obsessed than FSN was of showing pictures of babies in the stands? Are we trying to reach the soccer mom market?

Sorry, just felt like ranting for a sec. GO ROCKIES!!!! MARRY ME DEXTER FOWLAR!!!!!!!!! HI MOM!!!!!!!! HOPE YOU’RE WATCHING FROM HEAVEN!!!!!!!! Ugh.

by blackmet on Apr 9, 2011 3:21 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Is it wrong that I laughed so hard at this last part?
GO ROCKIES!!!! MARRY ME DEXTER FOWLAR!!!!!!!!! HI MOM!!!!!!!! HOPE YOU’RE WATCHING FROM HEAVEN!!!!!!!!

That was perfect. But considering my sister-in-law just lost her mother yesterday, I have a feeling the degree that line made me laugh just might make me a very bad person…

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by Junction Rox on Apr 9, 2011 3:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think they talked about it during the post-game, at least, don’t remember anything before then though

by ejskater on Apr 9, 2011 12:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

this sounds right

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by Muzia on Apr 9, 2011 12:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

no one was called to the mound or anything

but I did notice several times he seemed bothered with it. I didn’t have audio so maybe I wasn’t distracted by the announcer dribble..

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by butterfly on Apr 9, 2011 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

drival...not dribble...oh man :(

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by butterfly on Apr 9, 2011 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

We're talking about Fraze here

I think you had it right the first time

We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!

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by Junction Rox on Apr 9, 2011 12:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

Heh..

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by butterfly on Apr 9, 2011 12:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

thanks :)

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by butterfly on Apr 9, 2011 1:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

This is what the Post's game article says:
De La Rosa didn’t experience blister issues this time but was pulled after five innings and allowed three walks, two runs and two hits, including a solo home run by Tabata in the fifth.

I think he left because of his pitch count. Not that he was completely out of gas, but he seemed to be laboring a bit.

by Northsider1964 on Apr 9, 2011 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Tracy said

in the post-game interview that the blister was still there, DLR said it wasn’t bothering him, but they took him out anyways

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by The Toddfather's Goatee on Apr 9, 2011 12:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

OK, thanks

I didn’t stay up for the postgame.

Anyway, I think if Jorge tries to go 7 or so innings, the outcome is much the same. He didn’t look like a guy who was going to finish the night with only 2 ER. Didn’t pitch badly, but wasn’t especially sharp and needed some help from the slumbering offense.

by Northsider1964 on Apr 9, 2011 12:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

Exactly. He wasn't going to pitch any differently, for better or worse, than Belisle did last night

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by Mondogarage on Apr 9, 2011 1:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sooo… Today’s lineup.

No Stewart/Helton. Herrera starts again. Lopez at 3rd, Wiggy at 1st.

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by CentralCaliRox on Apr 9, 2011 1:12 PM MDT reply actions  

Thanx for the lineup. I actually kind of like it except I think I'd flip Smith and Lopez.

  For any interested Eric chavez is doing his best Jonny imatation as the Yanks lead the BSox 7-4 top of the 5th.

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by Oldfoagie on Apr 9, 2011 1:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Morales catching , also

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by butterfly on Apr 9, 2011 1:20 PM MDT reply actions  

So what happens to Frankie in the long run?

He’s a hard-throwing left-hander with amazing stuff… when he controls it. But he’s prone to being rattled and losing the strike zone entirely. And he’s out of options.

Are there other teams that would take him in trade as a reclamation project? (Trade deadline, off-season.) Or would they wait to pick him up for nothing?

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by glaucophane on Apr 9, 2011 2:20 PM MDT reply actions  

The reality is, he likely becomes some other team's attempt to JDLR him over the next 2-3 years after this one

But we can’t afford to keep carrying him giving him arb raises and such, at this level of performance. We just can’t, and shouldn’t. Those things happen.

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by Mondogarage on Apr 9, 2011 2:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

I really wish

they had stretched him out in Spring Training. Then he could take a spot start next week if DLR’s blisters continue to be an issue.

This is an example of the team screwing the player up. He was terrific down the stretch for the Rox in 2007 had a couple of lousy starts to open 2008 and immediately was converted to a reliever. They should have left him where he had some success.

That being said, I think that he needs to be moved. He is clearly in a role that he is not suited for. Not sure why he gets the yips but not sure the team can go to the well many more times.

by RoxandRoll on Apr 9, 2011 3:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

They didn't screw him up!

Seriously, if they had left him as a starter, I doubt he would have been more effective. He couldn’t throw secondary pitches for strikes back then, which is the chief reason to put a guy in the bullpen.

You think we can get anything of value for him right now? His stock is pretty low right now, so I personally would have him hang around to see if he shows more improvement.

Scenario 1:

Morales proves to be an effective reliever, better than Rex Brothers in the short-term. The Rox keep him as a valuable piece.

Scenario 2:

Morales is somewhat effective, raising his trade value, but is not better than Rex Brothers in the short term. The Rox move him for depth and to open up a spot for Brothers

Scenario 3:

Morales isn’t effective, and the Rox let him go because nobody will offer anything of value in a trade.

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by hjrrockies on Apr 9, 2011 3:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

Not effective

not true – something like 20 straight innings in 07 without allowing a run during a pennant race. Who knows what would have happened if they had left him in the rotation.

by RoxandRoll on Apr 9, 2011 5:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

He's a lefty who can hit mid-90s

He bounces around several teams for another 6-8 years
before everyone gives up on him

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by maris61 on Apr 9, 2011 4:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

YAY!
alannarizzo Alanna Rizzo
#Rockies RHP Ubaldo Jimenez will throw bullpen tomorrow. Has thrown aggressive long toss w/o any issue. Able to come off of DL on 4/17.

Baseball is FINALLY here. That old ballpark, man, it's back in gear. Haven't seen it in a while. Man, it makes me smile.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Apr 9, 2011 3:20 PM MDT reply actions  

Some updates from Thomas Harding:
Some Rox updates: Todd Helton (back) and Ian Stewart (illness) unlikely to play. MReynolds, Betancourt, Lindstrom available in bullpen.
More Rox updates: Ubaldo Jimenez to throw bullpen tomorrow. Jorge De La Rosa sayd blistered finger won’t affect next scheduled start.

by holly96 on Apr 9, 2011 3:36 PM MDT reply actions  

Can a season start much worse than Stewart's?

I actually think we’re better off without him for awhile.
I’d be in favor of sending him to the Springs for 2 weeks
for a “second Spring Training” rather than trying to work
him back into the lineup one strikeout at a time. He’s
hurt enough for a 15-day DL stint.

Free Chris Nelson.

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by maris61 on Apr 9, 2011 4:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, somebody mentioned yesterday that he'd be better off optioned down to extended spring training,

and brought back up when he’s had an ST’s worth of at-bats. I agree.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 9, 2011 5:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hey so if we project the season based on the first six games:

We would have 108 wins. All of our losses will be extra-inning affairs against weaker teams. We would play .500 ball on the road. Tulo will average a home run every other game, good for 81 homers. 3 out of 4 of his hits would be homers.

That would be kind of awesome, actually.

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by Justus on Apr 9, 2011 5:46 PM MDT reply actions  

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