The Machine doesn't care for your worship. The Machine knows only its objective: Rockies victory
by Rox Girl on Jun 15, 2011 6:33 PM MDT
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If you go to Baseball Reference's play index and look up the Rockies career Adjusted ERA+ (a measure of a pitcher's ERA as a percentage compared to league average) leaders among starting pitchers with a minimum of 200 IP, you'll be greeted with the following ranking:
- Jhoulys Chacin 142
- Ubaldo Jimenez 130
- Jason Marquis 116
- Armando Reynoso 109
- Aaron Cook 109
This was before today's start by Chacin, meaning that gap he's made over every other Rockies starter to date will only widen. Also before today's start, Chacin ranked fourth in the National League (behind Jair Jurrjens, Roy Halladay and Cole Hamels) in 2011 ERA+ at 153. If he had the 1000 innings to be listed among the active career leaders in the category, he'd be tied with Brandon Webb for second place on the list. Today against the Padres, Chacin allowed just one run on three hits, walked two and struck out seven. Seven of ten outs on balls in play were on the ground. Through 241.1 career innings with the Rockies, Jhoulys Chacin is pitching like a bona fide ace. Not a solid number two to Jimenez, not a guy that will just go out and give the team a chance to win more often than not, he's the stopper. He's the guy that keeps the Rockies from sinking when their offense can't buy a hit.
All the while as he progressed through the minors I would hear all the reasons why Chacin just couldn't be that guy. He doesn't have a true out pitch. All his stuff is pretty good, nothing's great. And yet here he is, he's that guy, he's been that guy almost from day one. So before the game started, I posted a link to a fantasy writer who analyzed Chacin's pitches to declare his start this season a fluke. Since that article has been posted, Chacin's pitched fourteen innings at Coors Field, allowed just one run, struck out 16 Dodgers and Padres and given up five hits and five walks. What do you think I would tell you to believe? He's beating teams so many different ways right now, that he can lose command of a pitch, even two, and still find a way to pull out a quality start or better. And did I mention that he's just 23 years old? Simply put, Chacin's greatest ability is a preternatural understanding of how to pitch, how to adjust, hitter to hitter, game to game, situation to situation. I really don't know where else to classify him. He's the Rockies ace right now. I think he's going to be it going forward.
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Elsewhere, Charlie Blackmon added three more hits and another stolen base to his running tally since getting called up from Colorado Springs. He scored a run and added an RBI in the Rockies pivotal five run sixth inning. Perhaps the most notable contrast for Blackmon from Dexter Fowler would be the three strikeouts in 35 AB's thus far, which is the kind of contact that will typically lead to a stretch like his, where Blackmon's had four multi-hit games out of nine played. Two aspects of his game that haven't really manifest yet are his gap power and his ability to also take a walk every now and then, but his performance at the plate and on the basepaths has been the kind of spark you get the feeling that Jim Tracy has been looking for.
So for the second day in a row, the Rockies beat the Padres 6-3, riding the arm of a starting pitcher under 25. This time the offense did it more with bloops and a five run station to station rally in the sixth. The bullpen was a bit shaky. End result:
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Winning is better than losing. Go Rockies
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Blackmon tied Juan Pierre and Willy Taveras for a franchise record today
Consecutive games with a stolen base. Huge contrast with Dex
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by Andrew Martin on Jun 15, 2011 6:54 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
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by Andrew Martin on Jun 15, 2011 7:43 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Not bad!
This is a fascinating stat. If Blackmon tied, he may soon outdo the other guys. But we can call him a Blacktie guy!
by Real Perspective on Jun 15, 2011 6:59 PM MDT up reply actions
Juan Pierre as a Rockie
been a while…
#goodtimes
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by waterboy31321 on Jun 16, 2011 8:21 AM MDT up reply actions
Pip's guide to this afternoon's game thread:
The lineup
Cereal
Granola
Granolas
Wiggy makes a nice play
Tulo’s baserunning sucks
Cargo robs Ludwick. Bahaha.
People don’t like Joe Torre’s voice
#Rockiesluck
Catchers are tough
It ain’t over when it’s 1-0…especially when Magic 8 ball says so.
Exercising is silly
Charlie Blackmon
Chacin, the pitcher, gets a hit
TIE GAME!
Latos is a tool
Herrera gets HBP, blue says no, Tracy argues, blues say no, Jonny gets mad and BASEHIT.
ROCKIES GET A BLOOP HIT! : O
Various ways to stop people who start waves
Singles are nice
Trade for Greg Smith
OH GAWD NOT ANOTHER DH ARGUMENT
Matt’s in the pen- Abbott & Costello
Charlie Blackmon is awesome
NO DON’T EVER LEAVE US SETH!
The lineup
I'm gonna change my sig because the last time I did, we had a little winning streak. Then I changed it back, and we started losing again. It's the least I can do.
by prettyinpurple on Jun 15, 2011 6:40 PM MDT via mobile reply actions 13 recs
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There is nothing like a game of pitch and catch. 40,000 fans in purple and black can't be wrong. What's it amount to? Our Colorado Rockies.
How do you get your kids to behave? Threaten not to take them to a Rockies game. They straighten up REAL QUICK.
's ok. I knew what you meant : )
I'm gonna change my sig because the last time I did, we had a little winning streak. Then I changed it back, and we started losing again. It's the least I can do.
by prettyinpurple on Jun 16, 2011 11:08 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Thank you. Thank you very much : )
I'm gonna change my sig because the last time I did, we had a little winning streak. Then I changed it back, and we started losing again. It's the least I can do.
by prettyinpurple on Jun 15, 2011 11:21 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Haha, they should hire you to do that for every game wrap!
In mourning for Jorge's ulnar collateral ligament and lost season.
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My friends and I went down at around noon, and after stopping for a quick lunch,
found out that the Rockpile tickets were sold out :(
This would have been a really great game to be at! Hopefully a series win will get us back on track.
Blackmon looks like a 10 year MLB veteran
Great approach at the plate, smooth on the basepaths, solid in the field. Calm and collected. This young man was coached up.
Saw someone (Paige, maybe) compare him to a young Steve Finley. Pretty good call there, I think.
He’s been exactly what the Doctor ordered for this team.
I'm not too worried about the lack of walks to this point
Blackmon has shown a willingness to take a walk throughout his minor league career, and pitchers have been challenging him at the major league level. He had a couple of quality AB’s this afternoon, taking pitches, working the count, and fouling off pitches until he found something he could put in play. He’s not up there hacking at everything close to the zone. To this point, I think the lack of walks is more the result of SSS than anything else.
insane to thick Chacin is the youngest player on the team
Younger even than all these callups
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 15, 2011 8:01 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
If he keeps this up, he will be our opening day starter next April(or March)
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I figured he would be pretty good
but I never imagined this good. He just flat out pitches well. Nothing electric like most top end pitchers (Verlander, Lincecum etc.) but he sure pitches well. Amazing at his age, we need to keep that Arm healthy
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by waterboy31321 on Jun 16, 2011 8:20 AM MDT up reply actions
Chacin's a guy who would frustrate me to no end if he was on another team
He doesn’t look like he should be this good. He not known as a K pitcher (although he probably should be now), yet he strikes a bunch of guys out – he only throws in the low 90’s, yet you can’t hit him; he’s not intimidating out there on the mound, yet he destroys almost all of his competition.
The next thing you know it’s the 7th inning and you only have one run off him, and you’re kind of like…
“Really? That just happened?”
NO, we are NOT going to fire Jim Tracy midseason!!!!!
The Rockies couldn't be any more offensive or less offensive all at the same time.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 16, 2011 8:39 AM MDT up reply actions
EXACTLY
well said…just like when you face Livan Hernandez (good day) and you can’t stand it because you can’t hit him yet his stuff is nothing special
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by waterboy31321 on Jun 16, 2011 9:59 AM MDT up reply actions
Whoa there, let's not compare Chacin's stuff to Livan Hernandez'
Livan doesn’t have a pitch even close to comparable to Jhoulys’ slider, which is absolutely devastating when he’s ahead in the count.
I think you missed the point
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by waterboy31321 on Jun 17, 2011 9:23 AM MDT up reply actions
I think the 2011 Rockies as we'll remember them are starting to come together
There’s been a lot of moving parts, a lot of guys who didn’t work out, underperformed, or ended up on the DL – but with Blackmon, Nelson, and Nicasio coming up and becoming major contributers as well as Chacin steping into the role of ace while Ubaldo has faltered, you can begin to see a scenario where THIS ROCKIES TEAM, the one we’ve seen the last ten games or so, can gel into a contender.
This is not the team we had six weeks ago, and that’s a good thing.
I’m looking forward to seeing where this goes .
NO, we are NOT going to fire Jim Tracy midseason!!!!!
The Rockies couldn't be any more offensive or less offensive all at the same time.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 15, 2011 8:17 PM MDT reply actions
The team really does look like it's coming together.
With a reliable Ubaldo this team has a great chance to get back on top of the division.
by Skullduggerman on Jun 15, 2011 8:21 PM MDT up reply actions
This.
Now if only Nelson would play.
=P
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Jun 15, 2011 8:38 PM MDT up reply actions
Well he played in 12 straight games coming into this one so I'm thinking that today was the exception
On another note, I really hope we can bring our “A” game this weekend because this Tiger team is not only solid, but is playing well coming in – and oh by the way, we are heading straight into the teeth of their rotation. This is a good test here.
NO, we are NOT going to fire Jim Tracy midseason!!!!!
The Rockies couldn't be any more offensive or less offensive all at the same time.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 15, 2011 8:50 PM MDT up reply actions
+100
Herrera over Nelson at this point just doesn’t make much sense to me.
by GoldenNugget on Jun 15, 2011 10:21 PM MDT up reply actions
As unfair as it is to Chacin...
the closest comparison I can think of is to Greg Maddux. Similar to Maddux, he’s a guy whose whole is greater than the sum of the parts. If he can continue to refine his command, he’s going to be really tough. I also like that Chacin is the type of pitcher who typically ages well, as he’s not relying on pure stuff to get batters out. He could be a very effective starter for a long time.
Maybe he will be the guy they lock up longterm
and pass on Ubaldo.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 15, 2011 9:01 PM MDT up reply actions
Ubaldo throws lightning bolts and has much better pure stuff
bet as far as actually “pitching”, Chacin is miles ahead of him.
NO, we are NOT going to fire Jim Tracy midseason!!!!!
The Rockies couldn't be any more offensive or less offensive all at the same time.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 15, 2011 9:11 PM MDT up reply actions
maybe ubaldo will be off and on making an extension relatively cheap
and then go god-mode on MLB. That’d be f-in great
by AbsenteeRoxFAn on Jun 15, 2011 9:36 PM MDT up reply actions
This is my secret dream this year
But for that to happen, it probably requires the Rox missing the playoffs, because for them to get there now, Uball’s gonna have to be in godmode in the 2nd half
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
Fowler is done.
So far, Blackmon seems to be everything Fowler isn’t. He can actually hit, steal bases, doesn’t strike out… I think he’ll be here to stay.
Same thing with Nelson. He’s pretty much sealed up 2B until/if he stops hitting. Herrera is nice as a utility guy anyway.
Going forward, I think we’ll see Ian Stewart called up and EY2 sent down. EY2 has literally no place on this team anymore.
At the trade deadline, I’d like to see us go after a third basemen or another starter depending on how Cook and Nicasio are performing at that point. We might have some nice trade pieces in Esmil Rodgers, Fowler, and EY2 if teams want them. Something tells me that management won’t make a move, though, even if the Rockies are in contention…
The Rockies ALWAYS make a move if they are in contention
They just aren’t huge moves. Upgrading the rotation I don’t think is on the docket though. Anyone acquired at the deadline that would be an obvious upgrade would be pretty pricey. As for third base, there isn’t a whole lot available. Betemit maybe. Blackmon definitely looks good so far, but I don’t think Dex is done. When he’s right, he still has a lot of value. Even if he’s a fourth outfielder, he could really help this team.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 15, 2011 9:33 PM MDT up reply actions
Where do you think the look to upgrade at the deadline then Andrew?
if they’re in contention that is.
And i’d agree that fowler isn’t done, keep in mind guys that he’s no older than blackmon (i think) and could still get much better.
by AbsenteeRoxFAn on Jun 15, 2011 9:39 PM MDT up reply actions
I honestly have no idea
We are less than two thirds of the way there, and there is a lot to sort out. Ask me again in four weeks
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 16, 2011 12:05 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
WillyT had another HR and a Double!
Dex and Ian were 0-9 tonight. Fowler was 0-4 as a RH batter, 0-1 as a LH swinger of bats. He looked really down today too. Ian had some nice swings, just couldn’t hit anything fair. Hustled out an error though, he has a real good attitude it seems and is playing hard.
by Charlie77 on Jun 16, 2011 1:43 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree that we should send down EY2
he’s only tadebait at this point. Nelson, and blackmon just do what he does except better. and he’s not the best option as a bench bat or super-utility guy
by AbsenteeRoxFAn on Jun 15, 2011 9:38 PM MDT up reply actions
As much as I would like them to, I have a hard time believing they will be in contention
I know its only six games back, but looking at the next 9 games, wins will likely be few and far between. Add to that the we are behind in the series to SF and AZ, I don’t think this team has the consistancy to make ground and would about have to be bullet proof. To get to 90 they need a 0.617 win percentage and there is only one team in baseball that has a record better than that and this team is not on the same level.
Now I hope I have to eat crow, but for me that would be like eating cake because it would mean Rocktober.
by CORockFaithful on Jun 15, 2011 10:05 PM MDT up reply actions
The only thing I can say to that is....we were in very similar positions in '07 and '09
So it can be done. That’s pretty bloody far away from saying it will be done, but clearly, recent Rox history doesn’t indicate 6gb in mid-June is “done”.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
Recent history actually suggests this is right where we want to be
NO, we are NOT going to fire Jim Tracy midseason!!!!!
The Rockies couldn't be any more offensive or less offensive all at the same time.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 16, 2011 7:50 AM MDT up reply actions
I think you really underrate Fowler.
That said, I hope that watching Blackmon can be a little bit of a motivation for him to push a little more when he does get healthy again.
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I just finished the Jose Morales Healing Game.
Nice rally.
Tulowitzki should be fined when he runs the Rox out of innings.
Initial reaction to the Posey injury by the fellow who runs the Az. Snakepit:
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by Jim McLennan on May 25, 2011 11:24 PM MST
Jim McLennan: all class.
Minus a couple of consonants.
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2011 9:48 PM MDT reply actions
I have tweeted #TuloDailyBaserunningBlunder a lot this year
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 16, 2011 12:06 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
When the Rockies win, life is good
Really, is there anything better than following a winning baseball team in the summertime? I don’t think so.
I think the maneuvering of bodies in the lineup is finally serving it’s purpose. Guys just seem loose, focused and locked in for the first time in a while.
I would really hate to see Dex permanently displaced, because he’s always been one of my favorites (love his defense), but Blackmon kicks ass. I love his poise at the plate (so nice having someone who doesn’t strike out) and just overall demeanor. He looks like a true pro. I am praying that he keeps it up, because he’s the exact type of steady, solid player that this team needs.
I really think that the lineup is starting to take shape and — to me — it has to somewhat resemble:
1. Nelson
2. Cargo
3. Helton
4. Tulo
5. Smith
6. Wigginton
7. Blackmon
8. Ianneta
9. Pitcher X
I think Cargo is starting to come to life at the top of the lineup. Yeah, he’s got power, but his strength is his ability to get on base — plus he’s a a solid base-stealer which always helps too. I’m just tired of having guys at the top of the lineup who can’t get on base and strikeout too often. I think with the lineup above, you have three hitters at the top who can — bottom line — get hits, then with the rest of the lineup behind them, there should be enough firepower distributed to get them home.
Idk, that’s my two cents.
It doesn’t make much sense to move Cargo anywhere the way he’s hitting at leadoff. If Helton can keep tearing it up at #3, there’s no point in moving Cargo back down. Nelson has done very well in the #2 spot as well.
by DesertTurtle on Jun 16, 2011 12:49 AM MDT up reply actions
Winning is believing
Everyone has a different lineup that they’d prefer to see but I’ve started to like the most recent lineup Tracy’s been putting out there. What I like the most is bottom end with Blackmon and Iannetta batting 7th and 8th. Then combine that with Cargo hitting lead off it puts opposing teams in a potentially difficult position if the lineup is turned over and they have to face Cargo with runners in scoring position.
I think they should stick with this lineup for the time being and hopefully it will carry them to success. I really believe a consistent lineup is one of the keys to winning.
1. Gonzalez CF
2. Nelson 2B
3. Helton 1B
4. Tulowitzki SS
5. Smith RF
6. Wigginton 3B
7. Blackmon LF
8. Iannetta C
9. Pitcher
Rockies Fever!
Its also nice to have batters like Smith and Blackmon infront of CDI
As demonstrated on Tuesday.
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Interesting Nugget from the LA Times
Should probably be a rockpile piece tomorrow:
It's Jim Tracy's Fault.
Wow, #8. Interesting.
I’ll be interested to see the full coverage when it’s available (doesn’t look like ESPN has it up on their site yet. The issue must not be out yet.
Up 5 spots from last year
Must be the Tulo/CarGo deals
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If I read that correctly? I would really like to see those 21 categories
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by waterboy31321 on Jun 16, 2011 8:19 AM MDT up reply actions
Nice job the last two days playing the game at the Rockies' pace
Monday night I made a comment that we seemed to be playing Padres ball, figuring that a few runs would win the game and trying to get them either with solo home runs or manufacturing runs. The former is a low probability strategy and the latter is something that, for better or worse, the Rockies are simply not good at.
The last few days (and to some degree in the Dodgers series) we’ve seen what should be the Rockies’ brand of baseball. Rather than Earl Weaver baseball (pitching, defense, and the three-run home run) it’s pitching, defense, and the five-run rally. When the rockies get into a groove they can put singles, doubles, and the occasional homer together and put 3-5 runs up on the board in an inning. Combined with great pitching and decent-to-good defense, one such rally per game can win a lot of games. With this approach we can expect to see a lot of LOBsters, but that’s a good thing if once or twice a game they can string a decent rally together.
The trick is to assemble lineups that avoid rally-killing sections in them (moving CarGo to #1 has been a weird, but effective, way of doing this) and to get a hitter’s mentality of “get on base and get the next guy up, it’s ok if guys are left on base. Ks and 1-2-3 innings are not ok” into every player on the team. I hope to see a lot more games like today and yesterday.
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jhoulys the machine
i think this kid’s legit, the BABIP has the fangraphs reader in me worried but the rockies fan in me tells him to shut up and enjoy it.
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fire jim tracy: if you can closer-by-committee, you can manager-by-committee
One reason why I'm not too worried about the BABIP is that since Chancin got to AA at the start of 2009
He’s never had a BABIP against higher than .285 at any level for any season. So while that .221 will certainly go up some, I’m thinking that a BABIP in the .260 something range is probably what we should expect from him.
One other intereting note on Chacin is that his ERA has ALWAYS been lower than both his FIP and xFIP; and this is going back to include EVERY YEAR of his minor league career. This tells me that whatever Chacin does when he’s pitching, he gets batters to hit into outs when they put the ball in play at a much higher rate than the average pitcher. I guess that’s why he’s a Machine :-)
So even though his current FIP is 3.88 and his current xFIP is 3.20, I don’t think we should be shocked that his ERA is south of those numbers.
NO, we are NOT going to fire Jim Tracy midseason!!!!!
The Rockies couldn't be any more offensive or less offensive all at the same time.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 16, 2011 7:49 AM MDT up reply actions
And I don't think we should be shocked if his FIP drops like crazy too
He’s due for an extended anti-homerun stretch. He’s also putting up great K numbers, and I wouldn’t be stunned if he finished with 8.5 K/9 3.35 BB/9 60.0 GB% 2.80 ERA 3.30 FIP 3.10 xFIP line.
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exactly, the xFIP is i think even better than FIP for him.
given his ground balls, it’s ludicrous to keep giving up homers like he is
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fire jim tracy: if you can closer-by-committee, you can manager-by-committee
Blackmon is so impressive at the plate
While he isn’t taking walks, he isn’t taking strike outs either. He battles at the plate and continues to foul pitches off and foul pitches off and then AT LEAST put the ball in play. Flip the ball over the infield for a single. I absolutely love watching his at bats, he is far more mature as a hitter in <2 Weeks than Dex has been in 2+ years. I really really like Dex’s tools as MLB outfielder, but the dude has to learn how to hit and right now Blackmon is making a strong strong case to be in the outfield every day for the next 5 years
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
What excited me the most about Blackmon
is not Charlie B himself, even though he’s very quickly become a favorite of mine, but what the outfield looks like overall with him. Blackmon, CarGo and Smith. I don’t know of a more all-around stellar outfield in all of baseball than that, and still insanely young.
I hate to say that I think Spilly’s days are numbered, though.
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