Know Your Foe #21: Giants Looking for Payback After Being on Losing End of 1/4 of Rockies' May Wins
by Bryan Kilpatrick on Jun 2, 2011 2:12 PM MDT
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2011 Record vs. Colorado: May 16-17, 2011 (L 0-2 at Coors Field)
After dominating the first two series of 2011 vs. the Rockies, San Francisco suffered a mini-sweep in Denver as Colorado was able to complete consecutive comebacks against the Giants' pitching staff. As the title of this piece states, those two wins amounted to 25% of the Rockies' victories during the month of May.
In the first game, Tim Lincecum rather noticeably did not have his best stuff from the outset, but he was able to hold serve until the fifth, when he walked Rockies starting pitcher Clayton Mortensen to lead off the inning. From there, the Rockies loaded the bases on a single and another walk in between a sacrifice bunt. Troy Tulowitzki then smacked a single to centerfield that plated two runs and gave the Rockies a slim lead. After the Giants regained the lead in the sixth on the strength of two homers (one, of course, came off the bat of the ever-so-annoying Nate Schierholtz), the Rockies hit two of their own off of Lincecum in the bottom half of the inning - the deathblow being a three-run shot by Carlos Gonzalez. The Freak's final line saw him give up seven runs in 5.2 innings, while walking six batters compared to just three strikeouts.
The second game saw Jonathan Sanchez dominate the Rockies lineup for seven innings, allowing just a Troy Tulowitzki solo home run in the second while striking out five and walking nobody as the Giants held a 3-1 lead going into the eighth. Bruce Bochy decided to stick with Sanchez, and that would come back to haunt the Giants as Colorado struck for four runs in the inning, capped by a two-run double off the bat of Carlos Gonzalez - giving him two consecutive game-winning hits. The Giants offense, meanwhile, did not score a single run after the third inning after going quietly into the night after the sixth inning in the previous contest.
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After losing their golden boy for the remainder of the season, the Giants have held up fairly well in a small sample size on their recent road trip, going 3-3 against tough NL Central competition.
Posey isn't the only guy that the Giants have been forced to play without, as injuries have taken a toll on what was already a fairly anemic offense. Pablo Sandoval has been out since the end of April, while Mike Fontenot and Brandon Belt have recently suffered injuries as well (though Belt's hasn't resulted in any DL time - yet).
They've been helped out offensively by rookie Brandon Crawford, who has a .984 OPS in his first 21 big league plate appearances. In addition, Nate Schierholtz (.813) and Cody Ross (1.061) have OPS'd well over the past couple of series. Pitching-wise, you always know what to expect - Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez, and Bumgarner are going to keep them in the game. However, sixth starter Ryan Vogelsong has been just as good as those other guys in filling in for Barry Zito. In fact, his 214 ERA+ leads their rotation by a fairly wide margin (Lincecum is next at 146).
It is NEVER an easy task facing the Giants' pitching staff. At AT&T Park, that task only gets more difficult. The Rockies already proved this the last time the played a series there. Coincidentally, they will face the same three starters in this series. Let's hope we see different results.
Expected pitching matchups and more after the jump...
Friday through Sunday: 3-game series at AT&T Park
Expected Pitching Matchups
Friday, June 3, 2011 @ 8:15 PM MT
Saturday, June 4, 2011 @ 2:10 PM MT on FOX
Sunday, June 5, 2011 @ 2:05 PM MT
Expected Lineup
| Name | Position | AVG | OBP | SLG | wOBA | wRC+ | HR | RBI |
| Andres Torres | CF | .252 | .336 | .427 | .353 | 120 | 2 | 9 |
| Miguel Tejada |
3B | .210 | .233 | .272 | .217 | 29 | 1 | 16 |
| Freddy Sanchez | 2B | .298 | .341 | .409 | .326 | 102 | 2 | 18 |
| Aubrey Huff | 1B | .219 | .279 | .348 | .276 | 68 | 5 | 24 |
| Nate Schierholtz |
RF | .274 | .319 | .453 | .330 | 105 | 4 | 15 |
| Cody Ross |
LF | .267 | .351 | .414 | .343 | 114 | 4 | 14 |
| Brandon Crawford |
SS | .333 | .429 | .556 | .443 | 181 | 1 | 6 |
| Eli Whiteside |
C | .200 | .288 | .311 | .257 | 55 | 1 | 2 |
*In the inevitable event that this ends up being wrong, just remember that predicting a Bruce Bochy lineup is about as easy as predicting a Jim Tracy lineup.
Bench
| Name | Position | AVG | OBP | SLG | wOBA | wRC+ | HR | RBI |
| Chris Stewart | C | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | -100 | 0 | 0 |
| Emmanuel Burriss |
UTIL | .286 | .286 | .286 | .271 | 65 | 0 | 2 |
| Brandon Belt |
1B/OF | .211 | .328 | .281 | .296 | 82 | 1 | 4 |
| Pat Burrell |
OF | .229 | .344 | .389 | .333 | 107 | 5 | 13 |
| Aaron Rowand |
OF | .247 | .296 | .367 | .291 | 78 | 1 | 10 |
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Great summary
The Rox are positioned for a resurge, with some Ubaldo momentum!
Will be interesting to see if Nicasio has the same snap he did in his first game. He has plenty of poise. Chacin should be able to hold them for the second game. Will Hammel have the stuff to hold them in the third?
With some new blood in the lineup, I would think the Rox have the upper hand.
by Real Perspective on Jun 2, 2011 2:34 PM MDT reply actions
Am I the only one who can't beleive that Ryan FREAKING Vogelsong is still sporting a 1.77 ERA and has only given up 2 runs in his last 31 innings of work?
This guy wasn’t good enough to stay in the Pirates organization FIVE YEARS AGO!!!!! I mean seriously, what the hell?
Can we lay off of Cargo and Tulo until their BABIP numbers get with 50 points of their career averages?
NO, we are NOT going to fire Jim Tracy midseason!!!!!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 2, 2011 2:40 PM MDT reply actions
Its amazing how players can find their groove and just take off like that
Ex: Vogelson, Lohsse, Bautista
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
by waterboy31321 on Jun 2, 2011 3:33 PM MDT up reply actions
Bautista changed his swing mechanics so there’s at least some explaination there.
As for Vogelsong, I would find it far more “amazing” if he was doing this for some other team. He has been nothing less than the Giants’ most effective pitcher so far this season and with that rotation, that’s really saying something. It absolutely infuriates me that a team with such an embarrassment of pitching riches is the one to trip into this gold mine.
Can we lay off of Cargo and Tulo until their BABIP numbers get with 50 points of their career averages?
NO, we are NOT going to fire Jim Tracy midseason!!!!!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 2, 2011 8:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Time for things to change
Get to it Rockies
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"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~Greg, age 8
JFK
his LOB is over 80%
ridiculously unsustainable.
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
fire jim tracy: if you can closer-by-committee, you can manager-by-committee
It better be
Because there’s so many things I see with the Giants that I think are unsustainable and yet they keep happening. They must have signed quite a pact with the devil.
Can we lay off of Cargo and Tulo until their BABIP numbers get with 50 points of their career averages?
NO, we are NOT going to fire Jim Tracy midseason!!!!!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 2, 2011 8:20 PM MDT up reply actions
i 100% believe it
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
fire jim tracy: if you can closer-by-committee, you can manager-by-committee
Heres the good news
I am heading to Asia and will miss most of the Rox activity for the next couple of weeks. I will try browsing the row to see what is going on. The reason this is good news for the Rox is the last overseas trip we took was September 3rd through the 18th and we know how that worked out. If the Rox blow up (in a good way) over the next couple of weeks then I will gladly accept collections for the next overseas trip.
The bad news is that I will not be able to post and rant after Cook gets shelled by whoever he faces when he comes off the DL.
Every day last September in the Med
I would pick up the crackberry in whatever port we were in and pop open ESPN. And every morning I would tell my wife “they won again”. The morning I looked and they won due to Nelson stealing home was unreal. I think her resonse was “no f-n way”. We landed and got home in the middle of the game on the 19th then Street blew the save and the balloon popped really fast. Incidentally, the stock market was pretty good that 2 week stretch as well!!
China on this trip – I have only been in Narita airport in Japan.
Hah nice. I just remember waking up to victories for like a month straight...
then I ruined it by coming back home in mid-October just in time to see the Rox get slammed by the Red Sox. Stupid two week break argh.
Reminds me of the trip I made in 2009
They were having a rough season, and I flew out to Europe the morning they fired Hurdle and returned 3 weeks later to find they had a new manager and had won most of the games while I was away.
Muuuuuuuuuahahahahaha
the Giants lineup will not be able to handle the Great NiKKKKKKasio or Jhoulys Chacin the Machine, Or jason Hammel “I just had my blowup outing so now Im good for a couple more starts”
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
such a sad headline
1/4 of our wins vs Gints in the whole entire month…sigh
LETS GO RED WINGS!
2011 will be the year....better be....
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
On the other hand, if you're only going to win 8 games in a month
best win a couple of them against your main divisional foe..
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that is true
was thinking the same thing
LETS GO RED WINGS!
2011 will be the year....better be....
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
by TuLoRocks2008 on Jun 2, 2011 4:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Didn't we also lose three to them too in the same month?
Rhetorical question unfortunately, as I was there to witness those losses :(
Yep
If we had lost both of those games we would be 8.5 back right now
Can we lay off of Cargo and Tulo until their BABIP numbers get with 50 points of their career averages?
NO, we are NOT going to fire Jim Tracy midseason!!!!!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 2, 2011 8:22 PM MDT up reply actions
Miguel Tejada is awful!
29 wRC+!!! They need the Panda back baaaaaaad.
"My eyes! The goggles do nothing!" - Rainier Wolfcastle
Meh. I'm fine with no Panda and no Posey to be honest.
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Don't get me wrong,
I am elated about Tejada getting 4 ABs per game. I was just making general commentary about the state of 3B for the Giants.
"My eyes! The goggles do nothing!" - Rainier Wolfcastle
maybe theyll trade for Lopez
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by black_knight101 on Jun 2, 2011 9:35 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Tulo should be switched to the 2 hole
EY2/Herrera
Tulo
CarGo
Smith
Helton
Wigginton
Iannetta
Fowler
Pitcher
I really think switching him back to the 2 for a little while might help. Just not sure about having Fowler bat 8. Having things stay the same for too long might not help as fast as switching it around a little.
Not a bad lineup. I agree Tulo needs to get out of the 4 spot for a few starts to get his head back on straight
He just LOOKS so tense when he goes to bat lately, and makes me tense just watching him.
I would flip Wiggy and Dex though. Dex looked no bueno last night in the eight spot… he needs to get in as low pressure a spot as possible to fix his own issues. Wiggy has a better shot of flipping the lineup.
I agree about moving Tulo
… but I think Tracy & Co. are trying to avoid having that many lefties in a row in the lineup. Trouble is Tulo is the only rightie who would normally represent a threat. Wiggy isn’t there yet.
I like Smitty in the Number 4, and Wiggy in Number 6. How about Tulo in 3 and Cargo in 2?
by Real Perspective on Jun 2, 2011 6:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Have you seen Trevor batting lately?
He’s smoking the ball almost every time it hits his bat. It just happens to find a glove. I think leaving him in the 4 is fine.
"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." ~Tallulah Bankhead
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~Greg, age 8
JFK
That's my point
"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." ~Tallulah Bankhead
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~Greg, age 8
JFK
Not too bad
I would be tempted to put Smith in the 3 hole though.
Thank You
When you calculate his xBABIP, his OPS should be somewhere around .950 right now. No need to move a guy hitting that well when he’s suffering from horrible luck.
Can we lay off of Cargo and Tulo until their BABIP numbers get with 50 points of their career averages?
NO, we are NOT going to fire Jim Tracy midseason!!!!!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 2, 2011 8:24 PM MDT up reply actions
Aubrey Huff's numbers are going to look a lot better after tonight.
3 HR’s. Unbelievable…hope this onslaught doesn’t continue into the weekend.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Jun 2, 2011 9:25 PM MDT reply actions
Is that another Gamer Original?
Initial reaction to the Posey injury by the fellow who runs the Az. Snakepit:
"Hahahahahaha! Suck it, Giants fans. Suck it long. And suck it hard."
by Jim McLennan on May 25, 2011 11:24 PM MST
Jim McLennan: all class.
Minus those first two consonants.
by victor frankenstein on Jun 3, 2011 4:04 AM MDT up reply actions
Sad part is
Huff’s first HR was a 2-run shot that came right after Ryan Theriot butchered a would-be inning-ending DP ball. Giants were down 3-0 at the time and the Cards’ rookie starter was cruising.
And that’s the thing about the Giants. Make a crappy defensive play or a baserunning mistake or whatever, and they make you pay. Easy to say the game would have been a blowout anyway, but I think plays like that have a way of turning a game completely around.
by Northsider1964 on Jun 3, 2011 8:50 AM MDT up reply actions
Nicasio > San Francisco
’Nuff said.
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by Cargo's Ball Sack5 on Jun 2, 2011 11:46 PM MDT reply actions
Come on ahead.
We’re ready.
Initial reaction to the Posey injury by the fellow who runs the Az. Snakepit:
"Hahahahahaha! Suck it, Giants fans. Suck it long. And suck it hard."
by Jim McLennan on May 25, 2011 11:24 PM MST
Jim McLennan: all class.
Minus those first two consonants.
by victor frankenstein on Jun 3, 2011 3:58 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm definitely not as bipartisan as I once was.
Initial reaction to the Posey injury by the fellow who runs the Az. Snakepit:
"Hahahahahaha! Suck it, Giants fans. Suck it long. And suck it hard."
by Jim McLennan on May 25, 2011 11:24 PM MST
Jim McLennan: all class.
Minus those first two consonants.
by victor frankenstein on Jun 3, 2011 6:30 AM MDT up reply actions
Ehh, g' ahead. Wipe it out.
Sorry, got a little carried away.
Initial reaction to the Posey injury by the fellow who runs the Az. Snakepit:
"Hahahahahaha! Suck it, Giants fans. Suck it long. And suck it hard."
by Jim McLennan on May 25, 2011 11:24 PM MST
Jim McLennan: all class.
Minus those first two consonants.
by victor frankenstein on Jun 3, 2011 6:42 AM MDT up reply actions
I don't think there's anything wrong with what you posted...
ESPECIALLY WHEN THE ROCKIES END UP TAKING THE SERIES! Or something.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Jun 3, 2011 6:54 AM MDT up reply actions
I think you should leave it.
Because for a team that won it all last season, they sure don’t seem particularly intimidating this season. And all o the pictures remind me of this fact. Plus seeing Dinger getting pummeled is always amusing.
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You know how sports teams pin up in the locker room dismissive or rude reports from the press or rivals, to help psych them up?
We’ll just consider this along those lines :)
Though that... thing beating up Dinger
It looks like something you’d get removed during surgery. Is it a crab?
Also that ring is hell of ugly
(and yes, of course I want to see one with CR on it, even blingier and more offensive)
Furthermore
Captain America is dead.
Hey Baseball Gods. FINE!!! IT HURTS!!! I HAVE SACRAFICED ALL MY TACOS TO YOU!!! WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT!!!!
way too soon
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
fire jim tracy: if you can closer-by-committee, you can manager-by-committee
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
by waterboy31321 on Jun 3, 2011 2:08 PM MDT up reply actions
Ouch.
I’ve been thinking about my collage upthread…
Initial reaction to the Posey injury by the fellow who runs the Az. Snakepit:
"Hahahahahaha! Suck it, Giants fans. Suck it long. And suck it hard."
by Jim McLennan on May 25, 2011 11:24 PM MST
Jim McLennan: all class.
Minus those first two consonants.
by victor frankenstein on Jun 3, 2011 3:19 PM MDT up reply actions
...ever since the European row representative asked me "WTF are you still doing here?"
AUTOPOSTED yet again. I seen enough others to know that is an SB – wide phenomenon.
I don’t know, exactly. Slightly socializing. I talk to no one in real life.
Hanging imagery, mostly. I’m certainly no statistician.
I rationalize my online addiction by standing on the odd principle, sitting on the fence, defending and chastizing sites on all sides of rivalries.
I play with imagery, and badly.
It’s something of a drug deflection against a rather unassuming life.
And along with that I blur the lines of what’s offensive for my own selfish purposes.
That’s why the collage wasn’t meant to make people mad , it was only meant as a visual shout of “JINX!”
But the fact remains that no matter which way I spin it in my mind that mess isn’t very supportive of the local cause.
My apologies, Row. Have a good series.
Initial reaction to the Posey injury by the fellow who runs the Az. Snakepit:
"Hahahahahaha! Suck it, Giants fans. Suck it long. And suck it hard."
by Jim McLennan on May 25, 2011 11:24 PM MST
Jim McLennan: all class.
Minus those first two consonants.
by victor frankenstein on Jun 3, 2011 3:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Why would you repost this after it was deleted?
It’s not something we should celebrate.
Can we lay off of Cargo and Tulo until their BABIP numbers get with 50 points of their career averages?
NO, we are NOT going to fire Jim Tracy midseason!!!!!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 3, 2011 7:12 PM MDT up reply actions
where do you get this weird shit, man
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
fire jim tracy: if you can closer-by-committee, you can manager-by-committee
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