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Monday Rockpile: 2B Question Marks, Jhoulys Chacin is Awesome, Street Is Awesome Enough

Struggling rookie Nelson gets breather | ColoradoRockies.com: News

Some food for thought:

Since Chris Nelson's callup, he's batted .233/.260/.411. Jonathan Herrera: .121/.147/.121. Eric Young, Jr: .156/.206/.156. None of these lines are very inspiring. This isn't meant to start another Herrera Holy War. I suppose I'm just pointing out that 2B is still a major problem offensively for this ballclub. We're probably gonna see some more turnstile 2B play until one of them emerges as the guy who's hitting the ball, or they all tank and Herrera gets the job back based purely on his glove.

Rockies' Chacin gets a lift from his gift - The Denver Post

We've talked a lot about Jhoulys Chacin and how magnificent his 2011 campaign has been thus far. Jim Armstrong adds some more love for Chacin, who still seems to be going relatively unheralded as everyone looks at Ubaldo Jimenez to turn his season around. Every time I read something about Chacin, I have to pull up Fangraphs and be once again surprised by his 2.71 ERA and generally solid peripherals.

Did you realize that Chacin has a 61.1% GB%, 3rd in the Majors to Jake Westbrook and Charlie Morton? That's better than Derek Lowe, Tim Hudson, Fausto Carmona, Roy Halladay, Jason Marquis and a whole bunch of other noteworthy groundballers.

It should also be noted that Chacin's .217 BABIP and 81.2% LOB% are a bit disconcerting, pointing to a likely collapse later in the season, but this Venezuelan whiz is sure giving the Rockies something to hang their hats on recently.

Star-divide

Rockies drop series finale to Yankees - The Denver Post

Troy Renck covered the game wrap for the Denver Post, but he brought up one point that really struck me:

...the Rockies are just 2-8 when [Ty Wigginton] goes deep.

Without factoring in Sunday's 2 homers, homeboy is posting a 103 wRC+ on the road, which isn't fantastic, but given that he was brought in to provide a RHB that could hit on the road, I'd say he's not getting enough love.

 

Street focused amid ninth-inning dramas | ColoradoRockies.com: News

Here's another guy who catches a lot of flak despite being tied for the MLB Saves lead with 23. Yes, I know, SAVES, but in some sense, if it's his job, he's doing it well enough.

Huston Street's 3.53 ERA isn't entirely settling, and his 4.21 FIP is even more uncomfortable, but his 3.01 xFIP kind of suggests that this HR spike that's driving his ERA/FIP line up is uncharacteristic of Street, and we probably shouldn't worry about it too much.

Add in a 2.79 June ERA (1.91 FIP, 3.69 xFIP - which is probably inflated, given a 0.00 HR/FB%) and we can breathe a BIT easier in the 9th. He still makes it interesting, but we're not talking Shawn Chacon interesting or even Bad Brian Fuentes interesting. Given other pitching woes, I'll take a shaky-but-effective closer.

 

Smith showing he can hit lefties too | ColoradoRockies.com: News

Yeah, that 1PA off of CC Sabathia is really gonna overturn a career-long sample. But still, Seth Smith did exactly what everyone was afraid he wasn't gonna be able to do, and that's get a hit off of The Premiere Lefty.

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And the Dodgers file for bankruptcy

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/27/los-angeles-dodgers-file-_n_885040.html

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by Mondogarage on Jun 27, 2011 8:04 AM MDT reply actions  

This is going to be fascinating, from a bankruptcy law standpoint

(That’s what I do — bankruptcy law.) There’s a potential conflict between bankruptcy court power (read that as the power Congress confers on bankruptcy courts as a part of the federal government) vs. the traditional near-dictatorial powers of the Baseball Commissioner (“best interest of baseball” clause in MLB agreements with clubs). That conflict was narrowly averted in the Rangers’ case, but may be more directly presented in the Dodgers’ case by the pending TV deal and the Dodgers’ short-term need for cash, as well as the presence of an MLB-appointed overseer (Tom Schieffer), whose duties are likely to conflct with normal “Debtor in Possession” management by a bankruptcy entity.

Fascinating stuff. Manny R. may not get paid for awhile. Mrs. McCourt may not get her $100 million for awhile, if ever. Lots of lawyers will make a lot of money.

Looked at more broadly, the Dodgers’ bankruptcy, on top of the Rangers bankruptcy & a couple of hockey franchise bankruptcies (Phoenix Coyotes was one of them), is going to present a going-forward challenge to professional sports leagues: is it possible to bankruptcy-proof a franchise? I.e., can you include enough provisions in league charters and franchise agreements to retain decision-making power over the franchise in the league and keep it from devolving to a federal judge if the team files bankruptcy? Not easy to do.

My prediction on who wins if the Dodgers and MLB lock horns: the Dodgers, at least near-term. The fight will take place in bankruptcy court, and will be done by “house rules.” The court is the house.

I propose to solve the whole mess by selling Tommy LaSorda to the highest bidder.

2011 Rockies -- what the hell?

by maris61 on Jun 27, 2011 8:16 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don't know anything about bankruptcy per se

But I can’t imagine it being possible to make any franchise bankruptcy-proof. There are simply too many variables, and too many ways to go bankrupt, whether it’s a complete one-off mess like the Dodgers situation, or if it’s over-expansion into a really weak market, or some other reason. You can’t compensate for them all.

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by Yokel on Jun 27, 2011 8:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

Is this bankruptcy a bit different?

Because I thought McCourt divided up the business into seperate entities. Dodgers Parking LLC, Dodgers Ticket Corp, Dodgers stadium Company…etc…So doesn’t it depend which one filed for bankruptcy?

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by waterboy31321 on Jun 27, 2011 8:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

From what I've read, I think they all filed

The divided ownerships will certainly complicate the case further.

So will the pendency of a state court divorce proceeding between the McCourts. The division of responsibility between bankruptcy courts and family law courts isn’t always 100% clear, although generally divorce proceedings can go forward despite a bankruptcy case being pending. And I don’t think Frank McCourt filed banrkuptcy personally.

So McCourt v. McCourt may be proceeding at the same time as Dodgers v. MLB in a different court. Has all the makings of a real mess.

2011 Rockies -- what the hell?

by maris61 on Jun 27, 2011 9:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

Can Dodgers "reject" Manny's contract and its payments, or that of any other player?

If not or if politically they do not, what was the point of the bankruptcy? Are there other huge contracts, such as concessions, they want to re-negotiate?

by RoxSox on Jun 27, 2011 9:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

They're not going to be able to "reject" any contracts of currently active players

But Manny’s contract, and any other deferred payments, that may be an entirely different issue.

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by Mondogarage on Jun 27, 2011 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

By the way

ESPN reports that the Aug. 4 “characterization” trial to determine who owns the Dodgers will likely be shelved given recent events (i.e., rejection of TV deal, bankruptcy), and will be resolved later.

Bleed purple

by Rawktober on Jun 27, 2011 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

maris (or anyone)

I haven’t followed this too closely, but when you say Dodgers may win, what would an MLB loss look like? What would the “loss” effect be on MLB?

by Rutabaga on Jun 27, 2011 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

A "loss" by MLB on the TV deal

would probably mean that the deal could be done (if, and it’s a big if, Fox wants to go forward & risk incurring the wrath of MLB) promptly based on a bankruptcy court order, but that might not mean Ms. McCourt gets her $100 mil. It’s not at all unusual in bankruptcy for proceeds of a deal on particular assets to be set aside for later allocation under a reorg. plan or separate order. Getting plan confirmed is a lot more complex than getting a deal done on the TV contract.

2011 Rockies -- what the hell?

by maris61 on Jun 27, 2011 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

OT: Nice write up maris61

Any advice for not losing my mind over the 30 days? (CA bar exam)

by CarRo2010 on Jun 27, 2011 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

Since I'm going to retire from practicing law next year,

I may not be the best one to ask, but what little I remember of taking the bar
exam 30+ years ago is that it helped to study some things that I hadn’t taken
law school courses on. I just crammed hard on those, and relied on law school
courses + review on the areas I knew better.

If you pass, get a job with one of the firms involved in the Dodger case. They’ll all be generating a lot of fees for a long time.

2011 Rockies -- what the hell?

by maris61 on Jun 27, 2011 11:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

Good advice all around. Thanks.

And congrats on retiring and get out of stress!

by CarRo2010 on Jun 27, 2011 12:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

Brief fantasy I had...

Dodgers declare bankruptcy. Kemp’s in his final year of his contract. Open the bank, end up with the best outfield in the majors.

Totally impossible, I realize. Fun as hell to think about.

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by MattTheRock on Jun 27, 2011 8:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

Don’t say things like that. You make me sad, thinking about what will never be :-(

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by Andrew Martin on Jun 27, 2011 9:14 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

But but

Jamie Carroll. Second base.

2011 Rockies -- what the hell?

by maris61 on Jun 27, 2011 9:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

I was gonna insert that but our company internet went down. Thanks for the link.

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by Andrew Martin on Jun 27, 2011 9:12 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Soooo

If I leave for Chicago right now, I could make today’s game by the 4th inning.

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by Thnikkaman on Jun 27, 2011 8:07 AM MDT reply actions  

DO IT.

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by Yokel on Jun 27, 2011 8:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Joke Westbrook

I lol’d

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Jun 27, 2011 8:08 AM MDT reply actions  

You could have FIXED it! Psh thanks for nothing.

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by Andrew Martin on Jun 27, 2011 9:15 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't see anything that needs fixing...

We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!

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by Junction Rox on Jun 27, 2011 10:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

Chacin owns.

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by The Lodo Magic Man on Jun 27, 2011 8:14 AM MDT via mobile reply actions  

Chacin is our best pitcher now

His K-rate is spiking back up to the mid-8’s, and while his control isn’t “uber,” he’s shown a history of good control in the minors. His GB% is holding steady, and I could see him being a 55%+ GB guy for a long time, with elite strikeout potential.

I think we’ll see his career ERA dive under 3 this year.

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by hjrrockies on Jun 27, 2011 8:15 AM MDT reply actions  

that boy good

and only gonna get better if he works at it. sky is the limit.

by Teekalong on Jun 27, 2011 10:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

Still, I long for the days when he was our #3!

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by DAWNMARIE01 on Jun 27, 2011 10:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

Maybe we can get a sweep today?

One game series sweep?

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by waterboy31321 on Jun 27, 2011 8:38 AM MDT reply actions  

I'm fine with whatever happens.

Technically, we already won this series. A sweep would be awesome, though.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Jun 27, 2011 8:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

Lose a a series, then sweep a series in two days

Sounds nifty.

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by Muzia on Jun 27, 2011 8:43 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wiggy's road wRC+ is up to 126 after yesterday

at 1.4 WAR for the season, he’s just barely short of Ian Stewart’s season high 1.5 WAR, set last year.

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by Muzia on Jun 27, 2011 8:51 AM MDT reply actions  

So is it bad that when I saw Wiggy hit that HR

I said to myself, “Great, we just lost this game”.

Hey Baseball Gods. FINE!!! IT HURTS!!! I HAVE SACRIFICED ALL MY TACOS TO YOU!!! WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT!!!!

by Thnikkaman on Jun 27, 2011 8:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

(I said the same exact thing)

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by Muzia on Jun 27, 2011 8:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

So did I.

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by Yokel on Jun 27, 2011 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

The second one was like a nail in the coffin.

Guy can’t stop screwing us over.

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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 27, 2011 9:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

samw

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by Hollidayrain on Jun 27, 2011 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

it doesn't make sense--it's like when everyone sees Wiggy show up

They decide to pack it up and quit, haha

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by Hollidayrain on Jun 27, 2011 10:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

Poor Wiggy.

He’s in a no-win situation.

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by DAWNMARIE01 on Jun 27, 2011 10:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

ISWYDT

Hey Baseball Gods. FINE!!! IT HURTS!!! I HAVE SACRIFICED ALL MY TACOS TO YOU!!! WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT!!!!

by Thnikkaman on Jun 27, 2011 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

Not such a bad contract after all it seems

Give the guy credit, he may struggle v. a good slider but make a mistake with a fastball and dude is gonna hit it hard somewhere.

by Teekalong on Jun 27, 2011 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

Ghosts home opener is tomorrow

I plan on being at their first two home games.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 27, 2011 9:01 AM MDT via mobile reply actions  

Casper Ghosts have the best hat in all of baseball, hands down

Nothing even comes close in my opinion.

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by Hollidayrain on Jun 27, 2011 10:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

But the ghost is so unfriendly...

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by Jeff Francis Day on Jun 27, 2011 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

I liked the Casper Rockies hat more

I would KILL for one of those.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Jun 27, 2011 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

Looks like the Post

is starting their annual push for acquisition of more talent…

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by waterboy31321 on Jun 27, 2011 9:08 AM MDT reply actions  

They need more talent. Dump Kiszla, Dump Paige.

Oh, you mean the Rockies need more talent.

2011 Rockies -- what the hell?

by maris61 on Jun 27, 2011 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

I would even take a Plaschke in trade for Kiszla.

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by Mondogarage on Jun 27, 2011 9:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

Let's not go crazy

I don’t know if Platchke is worse — but he’s not better.

by Teekalong on Jun 27, 2011 10:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Giants win.

Even if the Rockies aren’t playing the Giants in that game, somehow SF gets credit for a win.

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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 27, 2011 9:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

The Giants will get there comeuppance after the ASB

It will happen.

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by Thnikkaman on Jun 27, 2011 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

especially after the asb

Trade Sabean/jk...Overthrow the Ydorks...

by Regulus on Jun 27, 2011 10:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

I stand by my statement.

Hey Baseball Gods. FINE!!! IT HURTS!!! I HAVE SACRIFICED ALL MY TACOS TO YOU!!! WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT!!!!

by Thnikkaman on Jun 27, 2011 10:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

Poor offense, on the other hand....

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by Muzia on Jun 27, 2011 10:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

I keep repeating this to myself

And it continues not to happen. Whatever deal with the devil they struck they struck it gooooooood.

by CarRo2010 on Jun 27, 2011 10:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

Wiggy lumbers around first base

And misses the bag. He’s called out, Rockies go on to lose yet another in extra frames.

by Northsider1964 on Jun 27, 2011 9:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

Or gets struck by lightning out of a clear blue sky on his way around.

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by DAWNMARIE01 on Jun 27, 2011 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

I believe the rule is

stipulation 104.C: If a fan of the team which surrenders the apparent home run catches the ball on a fly, the batter is to be called out.

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by Resolution on Jun 27, 2011 9:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

Just spoke to a reporter in Chicago

And apparently it’s raining there. They’ll probably slog around in the mud today, after postponing the game on a day that didn’t see a drop.

by Northsider1964 on Jun 27, 2011 9:34 AM MDT reply actions  

This does not help my opinion of Chicago,

And I’m planning on spending my weekend there.

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by Thnikkaman on Jun 27, 2011 9:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

Should be able to get this one in as long as they are done by 5 CST.

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by Thnikkaman on Jun 27, 2011 9:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

Lineups

Rockies:

1. Carlos Gonzalez (L) CF
2. Jonathan Herrera (S) 2B
3. Todd Helton (L) 1B
4. Troy Tulowitzki® SS
5. Seth Smith (L) RF
6. Ty Wigginton® 3B
7. Charlie Blackmon (L) LF
8. Chris Iannetta® C
9. Jhoulys Chacin® P

Cubs:

1. Kosuke Fukudome (L) RF
2. Tony Campana (L) CF
3. Starlin Castro® SS
4. Aramis Ramirez® 3B
5. Carlos Pena (L) 1B
6. Alfonso Soriano® LF
7. Blake DeWitt (L) 2B
8. Geovany Soto® C
9. Matt Garza® P

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Jun 27, 2011 9:46 AM MDT reply actions  

Great, Wiggy is just going to ruin the game again

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by Muzia on Jun 27, 2011 9:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

Herrera again with a back-to-back start

God Forbid he actually manages to get a hit this game….

It's Jim Tracy's Fault.

by wolf213 on Jun 27, 2011 9:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

if I recall correctly, the "rain out" this game is a make up for

Was also supposed to feature Jhoulys Chacin. Ace avoidance fail

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 27, 2011 9:57 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

My same exact thought this morning

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by Muzia on Jun 27, 2011 9:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but I think the Cubs were throwing out a real scrub that day, not Matt Garza, iirc

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by Mondogarage on Jun 27, 2011 10:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think you're right, I think we pounded Russell in the first game of the series

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by Mondogarage on Jun 27, 2011 11:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Gotta win this one.

It seems like the Giants will not surrender another run this season.

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by squalene203 on Jun 27, 2011 9:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

Every time I see a Cubs box

I get to meet a new MLB player I’ve never heard of…hello, Tony Campana!

Hopefully Cargo can get on a bunch of times for bunting opportunities. Though I’m getting confused between Hererra’s game and batting order spot and most everything else about Charlie Blackmon as to who really is the reincarnation of Cory Sullivan.

by Teekalong on Jun 27, 2011 10:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

Tony Campana is a white Willy Taveras without Willy’s hitting skills.

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by Franchise26 on Jun 27, 2011 10:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

He's also scarface

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by Jeff Francis Day on Jun 27, 2011 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

That would be Tony Montana

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by SDcat09 on Jun 27, 2011 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yes, that was the joke

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by Jeff Francis Day on Jun 27, 2011 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

Also, please never say the name Cory Sullivan again. I gotta think that’s the floor for Charlie Blackmon, not the ceiling.

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by Franchise26 on Jun 27, 2011 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

Probably a bit harsh

but they sort of look alike. And I may be selling Cory short in the power dept. First time I saw him, he hit a warning track fly ball. Will have to try to catch BP sometime to see if Charlie’s got that kind of stick.

by Teekalong on Jun 27, 2011 10:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

Blackmon

Looks like Steve Finley and Brad Hawpe’s lovechild.

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by Jeff Francis Day on Jun 27, 2011 10:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

A shame

Steve’s been struggling so much since Tawny lost her marbles…but Hawpe? Surely he could do better.

by Teekalong on Jun 27, 2011 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

Wrong Finley. It was Chuck that got knocked around by Ms. Kitaen.

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by Franchise26 on Jun 27, 2011 10:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

DAMN

That was like Tulo booting the DP ball yesterday. Just an inexcusable error. I apologize to the fanbase.

by Teekalong on Jun 27, 2011 10:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

now that Tulo booted a ball around. Does this mean that the Yankees won't come after him?

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by Roxman4ever on Jun 27, 2011 10:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

They can try all they want

NO TULO FOR THEM

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by SDcat09 on Jun 27, 2011 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

I dont think he will ever leave. He had better not leave us.

How do you get your kids to behave? Threaten not to take them to a Rockies game. They straighten up REAL QUICK.
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by Roxman4ever on Jun 27, 2011 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

yea, I realize that. But, they like signing old guys. They like having old guys around.

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by Roxman4ever on Jun 27, 2011 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

Are we really considering who the Yankees may sign for SS in 2020?

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by Muzia on Jun 27, 2011 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

no talking about the Yanks coming after Tulo. They will have to worry about signing a SS when Jeter's contract is up

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by Roxman4ever on Jun 27, 2011 11:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

They're the Yankees

I don’t think they have to “worry” about anything.

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by Muzia on Jun 27, 2011 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

as long as they dont come after Tulo. I dont care what they do. But, you can probably bet that they will make a play on him.

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by Roxman4ever on Jun 27, 2011 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

I don't know what you mean

Tulowitzki is under contract. He can’t go play for the Yankees unless the Rockies willingly trade or cut him.

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by Andrew Martin on Jun 27, 2011 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

THEN WHAT IS ALL THIS WORRYING GOOD FOR

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by Muzia on Jun 27, 2011 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Its what fans do

ZOMG TULO MIGHT LEAVE US IN 2020.

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by Thnikkaman on Jun 27, 2011 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

WORRY! HUH! GOOD GOD NOW

What is it good for?

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

SAY IT AGAIN

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by Mondogarage on Jun 27, 2011 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

so your telling me that the Yankees can't even try to get him?

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by Roxman4ever on Jun 27, 2011 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

What avenue would they use to get him?

Troy Tulowitzki signed a contract that says “I will play for the Colorado Rockies for XXXX amount of money over the next 10 years.”

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by Andrew Martin on Jun 27, 2011 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

this is a good thing. Cargo also. Can't forget him

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by Roxman4ever on Jun 27, 2011 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

Cargo, however, is under contract for 7 years

so he’ll be on the downslope of his prime when the contract ends. Anybody’s ballgame then.

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by Andrew Martin on Jun 27, 2011 11:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

According to the many Yankee fans I talked to this weekend

They still believe they are going to get him via trade.

NO, we are NOT going to fire Jim Tracy midseason!!!!!

The Rockies couldn't be any more offensive or less offensive all at the same time.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 27, 2011 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

The Yankees just need to leave us alone

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by Roxman4ever on Jun 27, 2011 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

haha

the Yankee trademark for Tulo. Only trade I accept….What its too high a price then Shuttyadammouffs

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by El Paso Jeff on Jun 27, 2011 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

Trivia: Who hit the game-winning home run in the first game at Senor Fats?

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by Yokel on Jun 27, 2011 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

it's a trick question:

Ty wigginton

the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox

fire jim tracy: if you can closer-by-committee, you can manager-by-committee

by papality on Jun 27, 2011 4:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

I like that right handed batters...

appear as registered trade marks in this lineup box.

I can totally picture Tulo trademarking his name.

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by Jeff Francis Day on Jun 27, 2011 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

So is Herrera the starting 2B again?

NO, we are NOT going to fire Jim Tracy midseason!!!!!

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jun 27, 2011 11:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

I hope not

But it’s Tracy’s line-up juggling again.

Herrera got roughly a month as a starter based on his ST performance
and good start.

Nelson should get the same chance. If they yank him as a starter after
1 week of struggles, it’s not enough time. We already know Herrera’s
limits. Nelson needs another 10 games or so of consistent PT to
make a judgment about him.

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by maris61 on Jun 27, 2011 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

I agree

I don’t dislike Herrera but what exactly did Nelson do to get benched? The Post says he had a 1-for-16 slump, which is obviously not good. But that includes 0-fers against Verlander and Sabathia, and he certainly wasn’t alone there.

The lineup finally showed a pulse with Carlos, Nelson and Helton hitting 1-2-3. Why not stick with it for a while?

by Northsider1964 on Jun 27, 2011 12:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

Herrera agian?

Nelson is probably the only 2B to have some sort of future with this team. Why not just let him play out the year? Seriously Tracy is wasting his time with all the platooning of Herrera and EY2.

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by Colsportsfan on Jun 27, 2011 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

Russell Wilson has chosen to be Wisconsin's next qb

The only thing remotely shocking about that decision is that he didn’t choose Auburn instead

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 27, 2011 10:02 AM MDT via mobile reply actions  

I can either spend my time in Asheville, Casper, Tulsa, or Denver.

Or I can spend it in freaking Madison Wisconsin.

/not much of a choice there.

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by The Lodo Magic Man on Jun 27, 2011 10:20 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Don't forget Pasco/Kennewick/Richland, Washington

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Jun 27, 2011 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

While he is a good QB

I think everybody is expecting him to be a “National Championship landscape game changer”, I just don’t see that coming from Russell. Think he stays loyal to the Rockies and returns after he leads Wisconsin to a 10-3 season and a birth in the Outback Bowl?

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by waterboy31321 on Jun 27, 2011 10:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think he'd be

more willing to try out the NFL, drafted or not.

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by Russ Oates on Jun 27, 2011 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

Good

He wasn’t going to be special in baseball anyway

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by hjrrockies on Jun 27, 2011 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

So one year later

and we’re getting less production AND less glove at 2B. Crap.

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by Rawktober on Jun 27, 2011 11:00 AM MDT reply actions  

And this year everyones favorite (except uggla)

got a chance to run away with it, and none have. Frustrating, whats a organization to do?

We shoulda signed Lance Berkman to play 2B, it seemed as likely as him playing a good RF to me.

Josh Fields for 2B anyone?

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by El Paso Jeff on Jun 27, 2011 11:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

I’ll continue giving Nelson a chance.

.174 ISO and a .236 BABIP in June

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by Muzia on Jun 27, 2011 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

yeah thats my contention

as long as he has productive AB’s, he’s the best combo of O and D that doesn’t make me throw things at TV’s.

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by El Paso Jeff on Jun 27, 2011 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

What about giving Emaus a chance at 2b?

Has been hitting very well in Colorado Springs. Numbers are obviously inflated, but he could be an upgrade.

by David G on Jun 27, 2011 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

The First Free the Emu's post?

SOrry been Outta town for a bit, might have missed it if its been called on before

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by El Paso Jeff on Jun 27, 2011 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

He's probably next in line, seeing how the Rockies traded for him.

I’d be really concerned about home park inflation though:

Home: .376/.442/.682, 1.124 OPS
Away: .236/.325/.444, .770 OPS

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by Andrew Martin on Jun 27, 2011 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

Ian Stewart is the answer

Signed,

Clint Hurdle

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by Jeff Francis Day on Jun 27, 2011 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

could we please bring in Jayson Nix again

god whats taking so long….

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by El Paso Jeff on Jun 27, 2011 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

Shows how clutch

Michael Young deal would have been

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by Jeff Francis Day on Jun 27, 2011 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

.748 OPS in June.

I was in favor of the potential deal, but Blackmon simply isn’t worth that minimal upgrade

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by Muzia on Jun 27, 2011 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

but 2 months of BABIP inflated ~140 wRC+

I agree Blackmon isn’t worth the cost, but even if it was unsustainable, I wouldn’t have minded that production one bit, no sir.

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by Andrew Martin on Jun 27, 2011 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

and paying him 16 mil in 2012 and 2013?

I’m still glad they didn’t trade for Young regardless of what he does this year

by purplesocks on Jun 27, 2011 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

They were never going to pay his full salary

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by Jeff Francis Day on Jun 27, 2011 11:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

No, but the Rangers were still expecting a suitor to pickup about 12m of each year

And no, he’s not even worth that now.

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by Mondogarage on Jun 27, 2011 11:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'm at work and get to watch the game with no interuptions from bosses or anyone like that. YAY

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by Roxman4ever on Jun 27, 2011 11:10 AM MDT reply actions  

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by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 27, 2011 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

God Bless the USA!

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by Yokel on Jun 27, 2011 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

weekend at bernie's situation?

I would do more than just watch the baseball game

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by El Paso Jeff on Jun 27, 2011 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

hard to do when I'm in the middle of nowhere at a coal mine. So yea, it is kind of nice.

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by Roxman4ever on Jun 27, 2011 11:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

OT: Just grabbed lunch at a place called Hubba Hubba Hot Dogs

Paid too much and was left wanting. Oh well…

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by Thnikkaman on Jun 27, 2011 11:29 AM MDT reply actions  

out of town but ....Either Mustards last stand

or costco/Sams hotdog or u might as well just stick to a Sonic Chicago Dog…….mmmmm then u know what u are getting

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by El Paso Jeff on Jun 27, 2011 11:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

My thought exactly

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by Thnikkaman on Jun 27, 2011 11:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

They would have been decent if they did the following:

— Give you as many fries as they seem to charge you for. I paid the cost for a 5 Guys serving of Fries, and ended up with a McDonalds small portion.

— Smaller Rolls for the dogs. Holy cow this was a dense bun/roll. I ordered a 1/4 lb chicago dog, and I swear the bun it came on was so dense it was like they didn’t want you to enjoy the hot dog.

— When you order a chicago dog, I expect actuall peppers on it, not sliced pepperoncini.

— Make to order. My dog was lukewarm and the fries were even colder as well as soggy.

Then again, I need to get out of this state.

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by Thnikkaman on Jun 27, 2011 11:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

/Wyoming /Iowa

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by Muzia on Jun 27, 2011 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

On a totally different note

Ian Stewart has not made it through a minor league game with out a strikeout in his last 15 games. The last time he was K-clean was June 7th.

Not that this is groundbreaking information, but it’s pretty crazy.

He’s more than 25% of the way to DiMaggio!

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by Jeff Francis Day on Jun 27, 2011 11:41 AM MDT reply actions  

Had a good game last night though

We need Stewart. If he can play 3B, Wiggy can move to 2B & fill that problem spot competently.

But as the Skysox mgr said last week, I don’t think the light’s gone on for Stewart yet. I didn’t like his quote in that article, “They’ll call us when they need us” was what he said, “us” I suppose being him & Dex. “They” have needed Stewart & Dex all year — but Stew & Dex have flopped. The sooner they both realize their careers are on the line & start playing like it, the better.

2011 Rockies -- what the hell?

by maris61 on Jun 27, 2011 11:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

He's done it before

He’s not very good at it, but he’s not a total disaster there … just no range.
It would be a clear sacrifice of defense for offense.

If Rox want good D at 2B, with limited offense, play Herrera.
If they want OK D at 2B, with somewhat better offense, play Nelson.
If they want offense at 2B, with below-average defense, play Wigs.

No perfect choices there. Free the Emu, indeed.

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by maris61 on Jun 27, 2011 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Play Wiggy at 2B and Giambino at 1B on the same day

and at least they will take up a lot of space. Good chance a couple of line drives will hit them and stay on the infield.

by Northsider1964 on Jun 27, 2011 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Interesting on the quote

Yes he had a beastly game last night and yes we need him. I’m not sure that I’d be comfortable moving Wiggy over to 2nd, from a defensive standpoint. But the two can be a nice platoon at 3rd once Wiggy regresses from his current tear.

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