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Sunday Rockpile: O'Dowd: Ubaldo Jimenez requires a Herschel Walker type of deal

I'm not going to talk about last night, but just pretend that it looked like this the whole time.

There still seems to be some confusion among fans of the Rockies and those of the MLB about whether Ubaldo Jimenez might be dealt this summer, so Troy Renck tries to clarify the situation. The answer in a sensible world would be no. No team in their right minds would offer the kind of package that the Rockies would seek for their staff ace by the deadline. However, playoff chases make teams lose their right minds, and the Yankees have enough money that they don't really need prospects anyway. It's not going to be a sensible deal that moves Ubaldo, the Rockies are under no onus to deal, they can easily afford to keep Jimenez for the next three seasons.  Dan O'Dowd says it would take a Herschel Walker trade, the better recent baseball examples would probably be what the Diamondbacks gave up for Dan Haren a few seasons ago (CarGo, Brett Anderson and Greg Smith and then more) or the Expos for Bartolo Colon (Cliff Lee, Brandon Phillips, Grady Sizemore and Lee Stevens.)

The Yankees probably make the most sense, of a team that would be able to go out on that kind of limb and not blink so long as their media wing doesn't blow their chances with bad-mouthing idiocy, but the Tigers, with owner MIke Illitch being single minded at times in pursuit of championships for both his baseball and hockey teams, also could become a player. The Cardinals have a need, and they have the prospects/personnel to get this kind of deal done (Shelby Miller and Carlos Martinez are both aces in the making) but they haven't really shown the level of risk taking required for this sort of trade in the past. The Reds have quite a bit of minor league position talent, but a lack of top quality available arms might kill their chances. 

Ian Stewart is trying to repay Jim Tracy for his manager's confidence, and so far since his return to the lineup has been doing just fine. While the two K's last night were a bit disconcerting the triple that led to the Rockies first run and follow-up hit made up for it.

Troy Tulowitzki's glove has been also playing a part in what success the Rockies have had since the break. Tulowitzki has been the most valuable shortstop and fifth most valuable player in baseball according to UZR.

While he's certainly cooled off since the All Star break, Mark Ellis has been refreshed by the trade that sent him to Denver from Oakland. The Rapid City Journal provides the first in depth look at what the trade has meant to the second baseman.

Star-divide

One of the Reds top prospects, center fielder Yorman Rodriguez, recently needed an attitude intervention at the low A level because the organization felt he wasn't playing hard, taking lazy routes and respecting the game that gave him a huge signing bonus and opportunity. I bring this up not to disrespect to Rodriguez, who still might turn out to be a great MLB player, as there were similar concerns with Carlos Gonzalez at that age and level and Gonzalez has turned out just fine, thank you, but more as a foil and credit to Rockies shortstop prospect Rosell Herrera, who's already playing the game the right way and not taking anything for granted. It's nice not having to worry.

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It would be hard to let Jimenez go...

but getting three to four players in return might make it a smart thing to do. Especially since we’re talking about possibly getting a couple elite prospects.

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by GreenField on Jul 17, 2011 9:15 AM MDT reply actions  

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by jrockies on Jul 17, 2011 9:19 AM MDT reply actions  

Baldo stays

You can’t give him up

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by Zachm219 on Jul 17, 2011 9:28 AM MDT reply actions  

I agree that no player should be untouchable, ever

I just don’t see a realistic scenario in which trading Ubaldo makes the team better, given the loss of starting pitcher innings. You either have to set yourself back a couple of years or take a leap of faith that some other team’s pitching prospects are MLB-ready. (And if that team is trading them for Ubaldo, they evidently don’t think so.)

So for me it’s not so much that I have a man-crush on Ubaldo. I just don’t think the pieces can really fall into place unless there’s some kind of blockbuster 3-team deal.

by Northsider1964 on Jul 17, 2011 9:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

MLB-ready and contention ready are two separate things.

For example, in the Haren trade, the A’s got back Dana Eveland and Smith as near MLB ready pitchers to hold them over until the real Haren replacement, Anderson, could develop the rest of the way. We’d probably be looking at a similar situation where the quality of the innings pitched takes a major step back for the rest of the year, but the long and middle term outlook see a rebound.

by Rox Girl on Jul 17, 2011 9:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's not impossible

But when a team is pulling in 35,000+ on weeknights and 46,000 for a Saturday night game with the Brewers, they’re going to be more reluctant to take a step back in short-term competitiveness. And Ubaldo is also that unusual case in which he’s affordable for 3 more seasons. That’s why I think there’s a lot of intertia that keeps it from happening.

by Northsider1964 on Jul 17, 2011 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

That's why it would have to be a clear upgrade to the team's future overall to make it happen.

I agree, and have always said that it’s very unlikely that a trade gets done. It’s improbable, but not impossible. The scenario with the Yankees involves Jesus Montero, who would be Todd Helton’s replacement by 2013, and an All-Star capable bat, even at first, and at least either but conceivably both Banuelos and Betances, two pitchers capable of Jimenez like production, plus other prospects/players. It would be a boon that O’Dowd couldn’t refuse.

by Rox Girl on Jul 17, 2011 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think if the Yanks come and offer us Montero, Banuelos and Betances with maybe adding like Phil Hughes in there, how can you turn that down if your the Rockies?
Banuelos and Betances, just judging by stats, seem to suffer from walking too many like Jimenez does from time to time.
I like Jimenez, and wouldn’t like to see him go, but if he nets us that return, I think its something to strongly consider.
Although, what does this send to the rest of the team? We aren’t going to compete for a few years? CarGo and Tulo won’t like that.

by TehChamp on Jul 17, 2011 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

I hope they don't read that into it, as that would mean their memories aren't that great.

Both came to the Rockies in years where their very presence was supposed to mean that Colorado wasn’t supposed to be competitive for a few years, both teams went to the playoffs.

by Rox Girl on Jul 17, 2011 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

Can you really count Tulo in that scenario?

He was already with the club and was a rookie. CarGo of course is a different matter.

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by SDcat09 on Jul 17, 2011 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

Sorry he was a 2nd year player and was injured in 2008

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by SDcat09 on Jul 17, 2011 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

I wasn't counting Tulo's September cup of coffee in 2006

In 2007, breaking him in, having traded Jennings and a variety of other factors made most people, including Dan O’Dowd feel that the Rockies wouldn’t be competitive for another couple of seasons.

by Rox Girl on Jul 17, 2011 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Sorry I guess I thought you were referring to 2008 my mistake

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by SDcat09 on Jul 17, 2011 11:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

it would take

In my opinion, Montero, Banuelos, and Gardner. The yanks would never go for that, but its what I would ask for. That kind of return never happens.

by mkorpal on Jul 17, 2011 10:26 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

The Yankees are different.

They were willing to give away Montero for a 2 month rental of Cliff Lee last season. Why wouldn’t they throw in two more top players for a top tier pitcher under contract for three more seasons? Prospects mean nothing to them.

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by Muzia on Jul 17, 2011 10:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

I mean zero offense by this, so please don't take it the wrong way,

but I wonder if you include Gardner as a poison pill on purpose on a subconscious level. There are other players/prospects in their system, some very close to MLB ready that would amount to his value without taking away from their major league team’s 2011 production like losing him would. I still think this trade that you’ve presented is possible, however, and deals like this have been made throughout MLB’s history.

by Rox Girl on Jul 17, 2011 10:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Just looked at Banuelos and Betances on BR

Both guys clearly can make people swing and miss, but they both walk a lot of guys and are pretty hittable. Betances is 23 in AA, which is young but not amazingly so. Banuelos is only 20 but he’s 5’ 11". Not exactly ideal pitcher size.

Would hate to overpay for overhyped Yankees prospects

by moomacher on Jul 17, 2011 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

How can you tell a Yankees prospect is overhyped?

That’s easy. They’re a Yankees prospect.

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by Mondogarage on Jul 17, 2011 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

And Olney's statement

that Ivan Nova is a guy we are interested in ….. barf

by moomacher on Jul 17, 2011 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

It's remarkable how similar Betances and Jimenez's AA numbers are.

Betances is a year older than Jimenez was and the Yankees have more reason to be patient with their pitchers than the Rockies did in 2007, plus pitchers don’t have the same timelines. He throws mid to upper 90’s heat from a 6’8" frame and has a curveball that can also be an out pitch. Banuelos has a low 90’s FB with great movement and also a solid albeit inconsistent curve. Both have TOR potential. The Yankees are trying to prop up Ivan Nova in the media as a pitcher in the same class (see the Olney report holly links below) as it’s pretty clear they want the Rockies to go after him instead. He’s more of a Nicasio type. As long as we avoid that or at least get Nova plus one of the aforementioned two, plus Montero, we should be alright.

At any rate, “hate to overpay” is a curious reversal since it’s the Rockies that are asking teams to overpay for Jimenez.

by Rox Girl on Jul 17, 2011 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

I just think that

if a guy like Tim Wheeler was in the Yankees system we would be hearing Bernie Williams comparisons and he would be in the upper half of various prospect top 50 lists.

by moomacher on Jul 17, 2011 12:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

He'd be given a lot more hype, sure,

I can’t argue there, but you seem to be taking things to an opposite extreme, writing off all Yankees prospects because they’re in that system. It’s like writing off all Rockies hitters as being worth anything because they play in Coors Field. The Yankees will have good prospects, particularly from Latin America, as they pay enough for that privilege, it’s just a matter of figuring out who they are.

by Rox Girl on Jul 17, 2011 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think Nova is worse than a Nicasio type

Seeing as he maxed out at about a 6K/9 kind of guy in the minors and Nicaso was closer to 8 K/9.

by moomacher on Jul 17, 2011 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

The fact

that the farm system seems to have fallen off quite a bit may be a contributing factor on whether a deal gets done. At this point the organization is very thin at the AAA and AA levels. Rosario is a big time prospect at a premium position and Friedrich looks to be a middle of the rotation starter going forward but there really are no other blue chippers at the upper levels. (I know Brothers and Nicasio are already here) The fact that only Arenado made Law’s mid season top 50 is an indicator that the system is not as strong as in years past.

The 2012 Rockies likely have holes to fill at 2B and 3B. I am still not sold on Ellis long term (short term he is fine) and unless Stewart keeps throwing up multi hit games he will be a non tender before arbitration. Not sure whether Dex will fit in for the intermediate term at some point he also will have to turn the corner.

If the Rox can make a Matt Capps for Ramos type deal they need to think about sacrificing a Street, Belisle, or Lindstrom. Also might be able to get a decent prospect from Boston for CDI.

Before eveyone jumps down my throat, I am not saying the team should clean house – there is a pretty good core here. However, after them finding yet another way to blow a winnable game last night – it is becoming clearer every day that they will not catch the Giants this season. You can not go into 2012 with the same cast of characters and expect different results.

by RoxandRoll on Jul 17, 2011 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

Wheeler's getting close to blue chip status, if he isn't there already

but I agree with your overall point and premise. Compared to San Diego and Arizona in particular, the Rockies system at the upper levels of the minors is well behind, and given how the team relies on the system to compete, this could have a very large impact on our chances in the division over the next five seasons without the kind of talent infusion we’d be talking about here.

by Rox Girl on Jul 17, 2011 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

I missed Wheeler

but agreed. He looks like he could be a significant contributor by 2013. San Diego restacked with the Gonzales trade – we might have to think about doing the same. With every start that Ubaldo makes recently, the price keeps going up and the likelihood for the “Herschel Walker” type deal becomes more likely. I hate the idea of trading stars for prospects as it sometimes works but more oftendoes not but the Rox business model does need a steady infusion of 1 to 3 contributors from the minors to come up every season.

by RoxandRoll on Jul 17, 2011 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

Ubaldo is valuable enough to garner a couple near MLB impact players

and still get a couple of prospects that are a bit farther away in their development as well. It’d be less of a gamble than you think.

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by Muzia on Jul 17, 2011 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

Good post

If we traded Jimenez, my first thought was I hope to make a deal with St Louis and get Shelby Miller and perhaps Colby Rasmus since he’s somehow fallen out of favor with La Russa. We may have a surplus of OF’s at that point but it’s better than the situation we had a couple weeks back with Spilly being an everyday player.

by osierra11 on Jul 17, 2011 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

I would love this type of deal as well,

I just don’t think the Cardinals will go that far. They’ve been pretty conservative in trades, preferring to wait until teams are desperate to move a player they want (see Matt Holliday) to get a better deal from their end.

by Rox Girl on Jul 17, 2011 11:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

If the plan is to trade Jimenez

I’d prefer they do it now during the season than wait until the offseason. I can’t remember if that Holliday deal was done when Jockerty was still in STL but hopefully they’re more aggressive now with their current GM.

by osierra11 on Jul 17, 2011 12:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree

But conversely, it makes just as much sense to keep Jimenez and dish out a little extra cash in the off season to another quality starter. We’re pretty damn close to being able to contend, so I’d hate to gamble on a trade that might not pay off for us. I really think if we just land that extra big bat (Young) or starting pitcher (Buehrle) we’d be set to win the division for a few years.

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by GoldenNugget on Jul 17, 2011 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

The Rox

have Cook and the dead Corpas money coming off the books this winter so yes there may be some extra cash to spend. However, I am not certain that 1 extra bat solves this teams offensive woes on the road. I do feel a rotation of Ubaldo, Chacin, a healthy DLR, nicasio, and Friedrich is good enough to contend with.

by RoxandRoll on Jul 17, 2011 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think this happens given one of two scenarios...

1. Another team approaches us with a HUGE deal. (Yankees: Montero, Betances, Banuelos, etc… )

2. The Rockies fall off the charts in the second half.

Other than that… Jimenez will be pitching for the Rockies.

"I need to think something lasts forever, and it might as well be that state of being that is a game; it might as well be that, in a green field, in the sun."

by GreenField on Jul 17, 2011 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'd even say that scenario 2. isn't going to happen

There’s always 2012, and if the Rockies fall further behind or fail to catch up, it’s more likely that O’Dowd would try to trade players like Cook or Spilborghs for small returns rather than make a big splashy move with Jimenez. I think an Ubaldo trade only happens with a massive return, but I think that’s a distinct possibility given how thin the pitching market is this summer.

by Rox Girl on Jul 17, 2011 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think...

…both Cook and Spils will be gone in a few weeks. Spils for sure. Cargo, Smith, Dex, Blackmon, Wheeler, and Parker = plenty of OF depth in the organization.

by noelman31 on Jul 17, 2011 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well

they’d have to go 0-13 (or however many games they have) between now and July 31 for him to be dealt before the end of the season. I have a strong hunch he would not clear waivers for an August trade.

Wait, what's his real name? We should make a joke out of that.

by BrandonHawpe on Jul 17, 2011 10:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

There’s nothing saying he would be traded only before the deadline. Expect to hear these rumors all offseason as well.

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by Muzia on Jul 17, 2011 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

All this Ubaldo trade talk smells like the Cutler situation a few years ago..

I would hate to see this turn into that scenario because Ubaldo is one of those players an organization builds its staff around because of his attitude and work ethic. I just don’t want to see the waters poisoned like has happened to past Colorado sports stars.

by Charlie77 on Jul 17, 2011 10:52 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Especially when you consider...

Tulo and Cargo are now locked up long term. Then consider that Chacin and De La Rosa can both be top of the rotation in the near future.

"I need to think something lasts forever, and it might as well be that state of being that is a game; it might as well be that, in a green field, in the sun."

by GreenField on Jul 17, 2011 9:47 AM MDT reply actions  

*Meant to reply to Rox Girl

"I need to think something lasts forever, and it might as well be that state of being that is a game; it might as well be that, in a green field, in the sun."

by GreenField on Jul 17, 2011 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think I see myself in that picture

Top left corner, wearing white, arms down

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 17, 2011 9:54 AM MDT via mobile reply actions  

US

1. Carlos Gonzalez (L) LF
2. Dexter Fowler (S) CF
3. Jason Giambi (L) 1B
4. Troy Tulowitzki® SS
5. Seth Smith (L) RF
6. Ian Stewart (L) 3B
7. Eliezer Alfonzo® C
8. Jonathan Herrera (S) 2B
9. Aaron Cook® P

How do you get your kids to behave? Threaten not to take them to a Rockies game. They straighten up REAL QUICK.
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.

by Roxman4ever on Jul 17, 2011 10:06 AM MDT reply actions  

the b lineup for Cook

again. I know Cook has not given the team much of a chance to win recently but this is a bad message that is being sent. I know Todd and CDI are due to rest but honestly Giambi could have started last night vs Greinke (he has huge career numbers vs Greinke). Yes, Todd had a good game but now you throw in a subpar fielding Giambi for a sinker ball pitcher which makes no sense. Why Ellis is being rested also is perplexing to say the least.

by RoxandRoll on Jul 17, 2011 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

at least this b lineup kills the b lineups we've been seeing the past month

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by Muzia on Jul 17, 2011 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

Alfonzo is good enough to bat eighth, but Iannetta isn't...

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 17, 2011 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

My thought exactly.

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by Muzia on Jul 17, 2011 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

That dude is fatter than Fielder

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 17, 2011 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

them

1. Corey Hart® RF
2. Nyjer Morgan (L) CF
3. Mark Kotsay (L) LF
4. Prince Fielder (L) 1B
5. Rickie Weeks® 2B
6. George Kottaras (L) C
7. Casey McGehee® 3B
8. Josh Wilson® SS
9. Shaun Marcum® P

How do you get your kids to behave? Threaten not to take them to a Rockies game. They straighten up REAL QUICK.
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.

by Roxman4ever on Jul 17, 2011 10:07 AM MDT reply actions  

I keep having flashbacks to the 2009

wild card clincher against the Brewers.

And then I try to forget most of Cook’s starts since that masterpiece.

by Northsider1964 on Jul 17, 2011 10:14 AM MDT reply actions  

At this point

I almost wager bringing up Friedrich due to how horrible Cook is now. I mean, he can’t be any worse that putting up 1 QS in 6 starts, walking more batters than he strikes out and a WHIP of 1.76.

by TehChamp on Jul 17, 2011 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

I am guessing

that we see Friedrich by mid August. By then the gap is likely too big to overcome. I am with you on Cook – glad he is in his swan song with the organization.

by RoxandRoll on Jul 17, 2011 10:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

I can't stad that Cook is still in the lineup.

You’re basically guaranteeing a loss when you put him out there. Why not take a chance on somebody else? I don’t get it.

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by GoldenNugget on Jul 17, 2011 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

I don't want to see Ubaldo go

But if some team is willing to offer up a ton in order to get him, then we have to consider it.

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by GoldenNugget on Jul 17, 2011 10:34 AM MDT reply actions  

I know this really belongs in the Pebble Report

but we’re having a great weekend for our top PuRPs.

Friday night, Rosario hits 2 HR. Last night, Kyle Parker and Tim Wheeler both hit 2 HR of their own, and Friedrich threw another quality start.

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by Muzia on Jul 17, 2011 10:46 AM MDT reply actions  

True, but

Friedrich’s numbers were just so-so — 5 runs allowed, 3 earned in 6 IP, 9 H, only 2 K’s.
He’s settled into being a decent AA pitcher. But that doesn’t translate into being a major-league-ready pitcher. To be major league ready, he shoud be dominating AA at his age,
as Chacin & Nicasio were doing at younger ages when they were called up.

I’d evaluate Friedrich’s 2011 season as improved, but still disappointing. I peg him
as a no. 5 starter at best. Ceiling: Jason Hammel.

2011 Rockies -- what the hell?

by maris61 on Jul 17, 2011 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

It's not always that easy, particularly for LHP's that rely heavily on breaking pitches.

Ricky Romero at Friedrich’s age was a meh pitcher in AA, and the next season he was an average MLB starter, the season after above average.

I’m not saying that Friedrich will go this direction, you could very well be right about his future. He’s a tricky nut to crack, I’m thoroughly on the fence with him.

by Rox Girl on Jul 17, 2011 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

Buster Olney has more on Ubaldo. Seems to present a decent variety of viewpoints.

by holly96 on Jul 17, 2011 11:24 AM MDT reply actions  

Insider Only. Can you summarize?

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by SDcat09 on Jul 17, 2011 11:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

OT: USA! USA! USA!

oh top o the mornin’

"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy

by SDcat09 on Jul 17, 2011 11:40 AM MDT reply actions  

Also, Frankfurt Germany has huge amout of trees. Beautiful

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BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy

by SDcat09 on Jul 17, 2011 11:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

hey, I thought we were invincible if we scored 4 or more runs. what gives?

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by Resolution on Jul 17, 2011 11:54 AM MDT reply actions  

Umpire interference?

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by SDcat09 on Jul 17, 2011 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

If we trade with St. Louis. LETS GET HOLLIDAY BACK!!!

How do you get your kids to behave? Threaten not to take them to a Rockies game. They straighten up REAL QUICK.
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.

by Roxman4ever on Jul 17, 2011 6:49 PM MDT reply actions  

Um...that's not how trades work

No. And no, I don’t want that contract. It’s only worth paying a premium when he’s older if you get the “value” years while he’s younger, which we haven’t. And they have no motive to deal him

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 18, 2011 7:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

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Top 30 PuRPs

  1. Drew Pomeranz, LHP - AAA
  2. Nolan Arenado, 3B - AA
  3. Wilin Rosario, C - MLB
  4. Chad Bettis, RHP - AA DL
  5. Tyler Matzek, A (Adv)
  6. Alex White, MLB
  7. Kyle Parker, OF - A (Adv)
  8. Tim Wheeler, OF - AAA DL
  9. Josh Rutledge, SS - AA
  10. Charlie Blackmon, OF - AAA DL
  11. Rosell Herrera, SS/3B - A
  12. Trevor Story, SS/3B - A
  13. Edwar Cabrera, LHP - AA
  14. Tyler Anderson, LHP - A
  15. Rafael Ortega, OF - A (Adv)
  16. Peter Tago, RHP, unassigned
  17. Christian Friedrich, LHP - MLB
  18. Joe Gardner, RHP - AA
  19. Corey Dickerson, OF - A (Adv)
  20. Thomas Field, 2B - AAA
  21. Will Swanner, C - A
  22. Kent Matthes, OF - AA
  23. Albert Campos, RHP - released (4/19/12)
  24. Jordan Pacheco, C/UT - MLB
  25. Cristhian Adames, SS - A (Adv)
  26. Ben Paulsen, 1B - AA
  27. Josh Slaats, RHP - A (Adv)
  28. David Kandilas, CF - A
  29. Jayson Aquino, LHP - unassigned
  30. Hector Gomez, SS - DL
HM:
Edgmer Escalona, RHP - MLB
Dillon Thomas, OF - unassigned
Sam Mende, IF - A
Mike Zuanich, 1B - AA
Dan Houston, RHP - AA

updated 10/25/2011.


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