Rockies Extend Sunday Losing Streak to 13 with 4-3 Loss
by Jeff Aberle on Jul 17, 2011 5:30 PM MDT
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The set-up was there for a loss. The weak link in Colorado's rotation against the best guy in Milwaukee's, a lineup with a few backups, it was Sunday, etc. To be honest, the Rockies made much more of a game of it than I expected they would as they lost their 50th game of the season this afternoon.
Aaron Cook (0-5) didn't get out of the 5th inning (again), getting knocked around to the tune of 3 runs on 8 hits. At some point the Rockies need to decide that enough is enough with Cook. He's just not a Major League-caliber starter at this point, and the sooner the Rockies realize that the better. Also struggling today was Ian Stewart, who was removed in concert with Cook. Stewart struck out twice and committed two errors on the day.
On the plus side, Jason Giambi had an excellent game as the starter at first (he's done virtually all his damage as a starter this year), blasting an upper deck solo homer (10) as well as a double and two walks. Seth Smith and Ty Wigginton both added multiple hits for Colorado, including a run-scoring double by Wigginton in the ninth that made it 4-3 and gave the Rockies the tying run on 2nd with nobody out.
Unfortunately, the dreaded 4 run barrier proved to be too much for Colorado, as Carlos Gonzalez, Mark Ellis (a questionable PH for Dexter Fowler), and Troy Tulowitzki all failed to advance Wigginton past 2nd. Colorado hasn't had a come-from-behind walk-off this year, but this was probably their best chance yet to do so.
If this Sunday losing streak reaches 15, I'm going on a Game-Wrap strike.
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We Salute: Giambi (.295 WPA), Wigginton (.237 WPA)
We Are Disappointed In: Tulowitzki (-.307), Gonzalez (-.279), Ellis (-.148), Eliezer Alfonzo (-.140), Cook (-.119)
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by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 5:33 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm giving Andrew Martin my two weeks notice as far as game wraps go.
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so, Good luck next week
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It is now firmly entrenched into the season.
Oh, now be honest, NL West rivals, warriors to warriors. You do prefer it this way, don't you, as it was meant to be? No peace in our time. "Once more unto the breach, dear friends."
by jasontheuncatchable on Jul 17, 2011 5:56 PM MDT up reply actions
So tired of Cook
0-5. When is it fair to look as somebody and say, “Damn, they just don’t give us a chance to win ball games”? I think 0-5 is that mark. Right now we either take a chance with someone else, or continue to concede games.
I love the energy Giambi brings to this team. Any chance he could play 3rd? It’s not like Wigginton is a gold-glover or anything. I don’t think it would hurt to try. Having him and Helton in the same lineup would be huge.
Today pretty much sucked. The loss the US took by way of Japan was heartbreaking, then the Rockies pretended like they could mount a comeback and got my hopes up. Ugh. Bad sports day all around.
Asking if Giambi can play 3B
Is like asking if Ty Lawson can play power forward. The answer is an unequivocal no and trying to picture it in your head is pretty funny
by free7694 on Jul 17, 2011 5:43 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
so. mad.
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Because We Know: WE ARE THE ROCKIES.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Jul 17, 2011 5:41 PM MDT reply actions
Hey Baseball Gods/the universe/luck/the emptiness I'm shouting to
Guess what? After this season, WE’RE EVEN FOR 2007. I’m willing to concede the rest of this year since no one is catching the Giants anyways (Hey! Well would you look at that? They’re about to win a 1 run game, in extras, scoring the game winning run on a single/SB/throwing error/squeeze! What a change of pace for them!). Starting next year it would be nice if the Rockies could get back to winning at a .600 clip at home (at least), picking up more than 1 walkoff per 50 home games, and just generally not being a heartbreaking disappointment of a team. That’d be great. Thanks.
Wait, what's his real name? We should make a joke out of that.
In the last 109 regular season games:
Our record is 46-64. Barely winning 40% of our games. Save for Tulo/CarGo, no job should be safe (including Tracy and O’Dowd’s), no trade not considered.
Oh, now be honest, NL West rivals, warriors to warriors. You do prefer it this way, don't you, as it was meant to be? No peace in our time. "Once more unto the breach, dear friends."
by jasontheuncatchable on Jul 17, 2011 5:47 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
SI's Jon Heyman tweeted this
rockies name price for ubaldo: montero, banuelos, betances & nova. nyy will do montero plus other pitchers (not those guys)
Herschel Walker deal indeed…
I only know our farm system. what position are those guys?
by AbsenteeRoxFAn on Jul 17, 2011 6:03 PM MDT up reply actions
Catcher, Pitcher, Pitcher, Pitcher
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All replies to that tweet seem to be totally incredulous Yankees fans who think Colorado is delusional and also seem to underrate Ubaldo.
They don’t seem to get that Colorado is not desperate to trade Ubaldo, thus they’re going to need to be overwhelmed to pull the trigger. Maybe they’d do it for less than that, but probably not as little as what some of them think.
This is why I’m believing Buster Olney’s earlier tweet where he said some think the Rockies are just trolling rather than actively shopping.
I noticed that too and agree with Olney
But it may be the Yankees that end up as the “desperate” team before the end of July. Sabathia’s the only pitcher I would trust if I were a Yankee fan right now. Burnett is always so unpredictable, Hughes is coming back from arm inflammation, and Garcia and Colon are pieces of suck at this point in their careers and are pitching way above their heads right now.
In the very possible event that two or three of those pitchers implode, the Yankees may be forced to give up those blue-chips if they want another WS appearance. And as we all know, the pitching market is so scarce. I read that the Astros GM is asking for about as much for Wandy as the Rockies are for Ubaldo.
I ran across an article this afternoon
which, naturally, I can’t find again now, saying that DO’D might be trying to leverage the Yankees built up frustration over missing out on Cliff Lee twice in the last season, and their hatred of not getting what they set out to get. The idea was that with virtually no competition on the market in terms of elite pitchers, and the Yankees not only needing pitching, but still hurting from missing out at the last couple they pursued, this might be the perfect time to waive Ubaldo in their face, solicit some competing offers for him, and see just how far the Yankees might be willing to go to land him.
If O’Dowd really did start his asking price at 3 of the top 34 prospects in baseball plus an MLB ready starting pitcher, it seems to me there might be some credibility to the idea…
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by Junction Rox on Jul 17, 2011 8:39 PM MDT up reply actions
These two fit in with my opinion
That O’Dowd just wants to see if another team will do something stupid with the current dearth of talent available on the trade market. And if someone is going to do something stupid, he’ll be more than happy to take advantage.
I think that's exactly what's going on here
and if he plays his cards right, he might just set us up for the next 5 years.
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by black_knight101 on Jul 17, 2011 9:05 PM MDT up reply actions
And I'm still torn about whether I want that strategy to succeed
On the one hand, you can’t help but drool at the idea of a 2014 rotation of Chacin, Nicasio, Banuelos, Betances and Friedrich/Anderson/Bettis/Tago (or even Matzek), where a 27 year old Nicasio is the old man, if everybody develops as projected. Especially if Rosario, Montero, Tulo and Arenado were sprinkled around the infield, similarly successfully developed. Not to mention an OF with CarGo and Wheeler. That COULD be a dominant team. Potentially.
On the other hand, you have by far the best pitcher this franchise has ever developed, you know what you’ve got, and you’ve got him under an affordable contract for another 4 years. Giving that up for guys who could possibly end up as major disappointments would set this franchise back for years. Is that risk worth the potential chance at domination? I’m having a hard time with that. My heart is voting no, my head is just seriously confused…
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by Junction Rox on Jul 17, 2011 9:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Plus a great guy like Ubaldo would be a Yankee.
/barf
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by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 9:36 PM MDT up reply actions
I've wondered how that would go
there have been quite a few guys who didn’t handle the pressure and scrutiny of NY that well. Ubaldo, being a pretty quiet guy who really seems to like being settled in Colorado, seems like he could be one of those guys…
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by Junction Rox on Jul 17, 2011 9:48 PM MDT up reply actions
i think he would benefit from CC being the predetermined "ace"
thus, taking some of the pressure of off him
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by black_knight101 on Jul 17, 2011 9:49 PM MDT up reply actions
as much as this is a generic /yankeehate
it might be a valid point; his mindset very well may not play well in new york
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
I think we know what we'd get with Montero and Nova
Of course this is all speculation, but in the case of Montero, very few prospects who are viewed that highly and are that close to the majors wind up as busts, or even as “disappointments”. Nova, meanwhile, has pitched fairly well in his time with the Yankees this year, and he’s only 23 or 24. Also, if I’m not mistaken the Yankees actually took a look at Betances as a possible 4th or 5th starter during ST this year. And both Betances and Banuelos have fairly smooth deliveries that limit the chance for injury.
Betances already missed most of a season
with elbow ligament surgery. Might not mean anything, but it’s probably a stretch to completely discount injury risk there.
For a little perspective – Keith Law just ranked these guys 18, 21 and 34 in his MiLB rankings (I know, it’s Law and I’m not a huge fan, but it’s the most recent ranking out there, and seems pretty fair for their overall rankings.) If you look back to 2006, Baseball America’s ranking puts Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Nick Markakis and Scott Olsen in those 3 spots. For Baseball Prospectus, it was Daric Barton, Kenji Johjima and Justin Huber. Salty was repeating AA at that point, Barton was making it to AAA. 5 years later, I think we can say they’ve been disappointing based on those rankings.
If we want to give Montero the benefit of the doubt and use the #4 overall prospect ranking he’s had some places instead of #18, the 2006 equivalents would be Jeremy Hermida and Francisco Liriano. Who are probably case studies of the possibility of disappointment or injury, respectively, when dealing with prospects…
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by Junction Rox on Jul 17, 2011 10:23 PM MDT up reply actions
You're right about Betances
But you can’t pick and choose prospects to make your point. That is, 4, 18, 21, and 34 are really just arbitrary numbers; different publications rank prospects with different metrics. If we instead look at the results for prospects 1-20 (for Montero) and 21-40 (Banuelos), and 30-40 (Betances) and for several years, that’ll give us a more accurate read to how prospects in that range have ended up performing. I’ll use Baseball America’s rankings…
2004:
1-20: gives us 3 MVP-level players (Mauer, Fielder, Morneau) and 3 perennial All-Stars (Weeks, Greinke, Hamels). The rest include a couple of above-average players (Edwin Jackson, Rios, JJ Hardy), a few who got off to a meteoric start but have since failed (Sizemore, Kazmir), and the rest couple be called disappointments.
21-40: gives us 3 MVP-level players (Wright, King Felix, Hanley) and 0 perennial All-Stars. The rest can be called disappointments except for Gavin Floyd and Ervin Santana.
2005:
1-20: gives us 4 MVP-level players (Mauer, King Felix, Hanley, Fielder) and 2 perennial All-Stars (Weeks, Cain). Then there is Kazmir, Billingsley, and Niemann, and the rest are pretty disappointing.
21-40: doesn’t give us anyone truly elite but includes a ton of quality players (Quentin, Swisher, Ryan Howard, Hardy, Edwin Jackson, Floyd, Erick Aybar)
2006 is similar to 2005 and 2004, but there’s been increase of high-quality players produced at those spots in 2007 – 2009. For example, 2007 features Alex Gordon, Longoria, Justin Upton, Lincecum, McCutchen, Bruce, Tulo, Gallardo, and CarGo in 1-20 and Garza, Kershaw, Butler, Braun, Tabata, Rasmus, Ellsbury and Pence in 21-40.
In other words, while top prospects certainly aren’t automatic stars, it looks like there’s around a 60% chance of ending up with at least quality player or better, including a 30% chance or so of ending up with a franchise cornerstone for 1-20. It looks like around 50% and 20%, respectively, for 21-40.
I’d take those odds in a Ubaldo trade if we really can’t win with the team we have. If we roll off a huge winning streak from here to the end of July, I wouldn’t.
If the Rays
can take 3 out of 4 from the Yanks this week we might see the panic move. Not sure what I am rooting for here.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Thanks!
I’ve been reading the content for a quite a while and finally decided to add some input to the very interesting Ubaldo situation. And it’s really an awesome community by the way.
Feel free to chime in more
Your posts have been quite solid.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 18, 2011 10:02 PM MDT up reply actions
i absolutely agree
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
This sucks
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
the Rockies vis-a-vis their current status, yes
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
I doubt the worst of Rockies teams...
…ever lost 13 Sundays in a row. How can this happen? So critical since Sundays are almost always the last game of a series. Chance to sweep or avoid being swept, or take a series 2-1 or 3-1 and maintain momentum. But no, for the Rockies this year it’s MEDIOCRE in every sense of the word…
Sense 1:
mediocre, second-rate
inferior (vs. superior)
Sense 2:
average, fair, mediocre, middling
ordinary (vs. extraordinary)
Sense 3:
mediocre
bad (vs. good)
So are people coming around to the naysayers of June opinon
That the magic-once-in-blue-moon-come-from-behind-miracle-of-2007 isn’t going to happen this year?
I’m actually happy for the Giants, even thought I hate them. They manage to squeeze every last ounce of talent out of that ballclub. They will win ugly if that is what it takes. Rockies have not displayed any of the qualities of mental fortitude it takes to win close games at any time this season. You can blame the players, karma, the manager, whatever, but you can’t deny that when this team is down they will find a way, any way, to not quite win.
It’s sad and depressing but that is the world we live in this summer. Changes need to be made next year. Starting with Jim Tracy.
I don't think Tracy should survive the homestand.
A pro-organization/anti-player manager must take his place and send the message that for the rest of the season that every player is competing for their job and in the instance of some players, their livelihood as major leaguers.
Oh, now be honest, NL West rivals, warriors to warriors. You do prefer it this way, don't you, as it was meant to be? No peace in our time. "Once more unto the breach, dear friends."
by jasontheuncatchable on Jul 17, 2011 6:01 PM MDT up reply actions
I won't go as far as firing him this week
But if Jim Tracy is the Rockies manager on Opening Day 2012, I’ll be furious
Why wait?
He’ll be paid regardless, he shouldn’t come back. We’re almost 10 games out, it’s time to send the message around here that when you don’t do your job, you’re replaced.
Wave the flag now and find out what these guys are made of.
Oh, now be honest, NL West rivals, warriors to warriors. You do prefer it this way, don't you, as it was meant to be? No peace in our time. "Once more unto the breach, dear friends."
by jasontheuncatchable on Jul 17, 2011 6:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Unless you want to just go with an interim manager
you could take the time after the season to try to find the right guy. And you’d probably have more options available.
Yes
He will not be back in 2012 – the team needs a more fiery type. No need to have a Mike Quaid blow his wad and then be stuck with him next year. I think thats the Cubbies guy.
Yea at this point, why bother? There is no one that can step up and get us in contention this season
Let him play out the season and see what he can show. But if it ends like it looks now he should not have a job by October.
And I like O'Dowd and have always been a fan....
…but I think it’s time for him to move on. We need a thorough housecleaning.
Also agreed.
It’s just not working.
Oh, now be honest, NL West rivals, warriors to warriors. You do prefer it this way, don't you, as it was meant to be? No peace in our time. "Once more unto the breach, dear friends."
by jasontheuncatchable on Jul 17, 2011 6:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Well
Tracy pretty much threw Stewart under the bus on his post game.
He sure did.
That was quite surprising. Especially when he went on to prop up Cook, Cargo and everyone else.
Tracy feeling the stress....
to be saying something like that. It’s one game, and his miscues were uncharacteristic of him even if his strikeouts weren’t.
Tracy may be in more trouble than I thought after learning of this comment.
I thought the same thing.
Oh, now be honest, NL West rivals, warriors to warriors. You do prefer it this way, don't you, as it was meant to be? No peace in our time. "Once more unto the breach, dear friends."
by jasontheuncatchable on Jul 17, 2011 6:23 PM MDT up reply actions
There is a Bad Tracy.
At his time of departure from LA and Pittsburgh, he had few defenders among the fans, players, FOs, or press. We have not seen this Tracy much at all in Colorado, but the pressure might be bringing him out.
by DumbAndNerdy on Jul 17, 2011 6:25 PM MDT up reply actions
Other sign of Tracy stress...
Pinch hitting Ellis for Fowler. When we need baserunners ahead of Giambi and Tulo, Fowler is as good or a better bet than the righthanded Ellis against that closer. He was a good bet to at least draw a walk. Plus, if we tie it up and go extras, we’d still have Ellis to use later.
Tracy must really be getting a bit desperate at this stage. I actually feel for him.
WIth all due respect
I don’t understand what you think someone else could do. I mean, so far since the tail end of last year (when the losing really became official), the team has:
1. Cut/dumped 2 immensely popular clubhouse guys (Hawpe, Barmes);
2. Dumped an expensive opening-day player (Lopez);
3. Sent down (with great fanfare) two former golden-child prospects/opening day starters (Stew, Dex);
4. Demoted an established veteran and respected guy (Betancourt);
5. Cast off several underperforming relievers (Morales, Paulino, Daley);
6. Shuffled a number of AAA guys to try to give them a chance to take over for underperformers, ultimately demoting them (Nelson, EY);
7. Aggressively promoted a prospect (Nicasio) to replace an key injured guy,
8. Made a trade to address the biggest disaster position after trying every possible internal plan first….
I mean, this is not a team/org that is coddling anyone this year. Lack of performance (on the field) has generally resulted in a change being made, with the exceptions of long-term, clubhouse mainstays that play relatively marginal roles (Cook, Spilborgs) its hard to argue that any of the true drags have been given more than their fair shake. And if there was any sort of reasonable upgrade for those guys (there is not) we probably would have seen it. The rest of the main characters (Smith, Giambi, Wigginton, Chacin, CDI, to a lesser extent Hammel) have done what we reasonably could have expected, in some cases more.
Maybe dumping Tracy is the only move to make to shake this, but I doubt just bringing in some cat to yell and scream at Tulo and Ubaldo more is really going to make a difference. This team is just not good this year. That doesn’t mean changes shouldn’t be made…but man, a hell of a lot of changes have already been made.
by Teekalong on Jul 17, 2011 7:14 PM MDT up reply actions 6 recs
I doubt just bringing in some cat to yell and scream at Tulo and Ubaldo more is really going to make a difference. This team is just not good this year.
Rec’d so hard. Nice work.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
Maybe they've made too many changes
Looking back this team has sort of been in panic mode all year. Starting with Stewart even being on the opening day roster, and not on the DL. Ironically the only guy they have been patient with was CDI. Well him and Aaron Cook.
I tend to agree here.
All I know is something is rotten in the Denver Dugout
And now all this Ubaldo pouting nonsense. I dunno I feel like things are gonna get ugly
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The Ubaldo stuff has zero at all to do with anything actually going on with the team.
It’s a total fabrication.
I'm more concerned with how all the rumors might affect the clubhouse
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I'm not suggesting that their not.
But these kinds of things can turn out bad along with poor play. Fingers start being pointed. etc.
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Agreed
Rumors are a given in pretty much all sports. I think the guys know that are shrugging it off.
Get your purple on.
Hope so
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Well that doesn't give hope at all considering the outcome
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So the other option is... do nothing.
Okay.
None of us can quantify intangibles. We don’t know what is going on with this team right now in the locker room. We don’t know the under-chemistry. But we can sure see a stinking mess around this time right now.
Some people prefer action. Some people prefer to wait for the problem to self-correct.
Fire him. That’s where I stand.
100% agree
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
Daley is on the DL
Otherwise, yep
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Good post
It’s amazing everything this team has tried to do to get itself going. Nothing seems to work though.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 10:34 PM MDT up reply actions
The Giants are winners. Period.
I went a round or two with some on this board who write off the Giants purely as “lucky”. Maybe they get lucky from time to time, but they’ve also overcome injury after injury and continually find ways to win games in ways the Rockies can’t.
Nobody ever gets handed the World Championship trophy for being “lucky”. They win because they’re winners.
Agreed.
Never let statistics argue with what you’re seeing with your own two eyes.
Oh, now be honest, NL West rivals, warriors to warriors. You do prefer it this way, don't you, as it was meant to be? No peace in our time. "Once more unto the breach, dear friends."
by jasontheuncatchable on Jul 17, 2011 6:03 PM MDT up reply actions
kind of a logical leap with this comment huh?
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
Stats can be an indicator of various factors...
…but this Giants team is proving all of it to be nonsense, at least insofar as their current team is concerned. There will be no correction, no massive losing streak for SF. They will continue to win in the manner they’ve become accustomed to.
And on the flip side for the Rockies, there will be no winning streak, no statistical adjustment that helps Tulo crawl above .280 or Cook to win a game or De La Rosa’s arm to magically heal.
Oh, now be honest, NL West rivals, warriors to warriors. You do prefer it this way, don't you, as it was meant to be? No peace in our time. "Once more unto the breach, dear friends."
by jasontheuncatchable on Jul 17, 2011 6:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Yes believe your eyes
when opposing teams throw the ball away against them late in the game, or somedbody’s flare off the end of the at falls in. There’s no way that’s luck. That’s knowing how to win.
They're winners because they win.
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by Junction Rox on Jul 17, 2011 9:20 PM MDT up reply actions
I have been saying the same thing for awhile
They play the right kind of baseball. Not to knock Cargo but you HAVE to get Wiggy to 3B in that situation. You can be damn sure the Giants would have played the small ball correctly.
It also helps that they play the Padres
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I started a Tracy replacement piece that I have not had time to finish.
His contract is through NEXT season. This creates obvious issues, but it’s be worth dumping him at the end of the season.
A midseason firing seems pointless since it only costs the franchise more money and complicates the manager search at the end of the season. There is really no-one to replace him midseason that we would want around next year.
The benefits of firing him at the end of the season is some goodwill from potential candidates. There should also be a limited amount of team looking for managers this year. There was a lot of turnover last year, and most of those managers will get a second year regardless of performance.
by DumbAndNerdy on Jul 17, 2011 6:17 PM MDT up reply actions
how are you not ripped apart for this like every other post to that tune has been on purple row lately?
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
Because it's not worth fighting about anymore. Everyone has their beefs.
But you know stir the pot.
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The lesson of this franchise, since 1995 is this:
Never get too comfortable with the idea that the Rockies have finally reached baseball prominence, or that they’re on track to contend regularly, because they will ultimately disprove those things, often in spectacular fashion.
A culture of winning — and demanding excellence at every level — simply has never taken root in this organization.
by evers44 on Jul 17, 2011 6:00 PM MDT reply actions 3 recs
A culture of winning — and demanding excellence at every level — simply has never taken root in this organization.
I want to post this on the clubhouse wall with the words
“Do something about it!!!!”
written below it.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 10:51 PM MDT up reply actions
i *seriously* hope someone in the org, especially someone on the team or coaching staff, reads this
since they evidently know about PR…
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
I know it's not by the book to go gor the tie at home.
But how about Cargo bunts Wiggy (or a pinch runner) to third with 1 out in the ninth. It sets up so many possibilities……
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You would hope that the reigning NL batting champion would be able....
to pull a baseball in that situation, to you don’t have him bunt. That he couldn’t move the runner over is another indictment of this team’s utter lack of situational hitting ability.
So true that.
Any ball to the right side would have helped.
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I would have no complaints about that at all
A tie at least gives us a chance to go farther. Carlos is such a feared hitter that a bunt could also have ended up as base hit. I would love to see this tactic late in the game when runs are going to be hard to come by against closers and set-up guys, regardless of the hitter.
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No complaints if Carlos bunts
Especially since he’s not 100 percent healthy. But if he doesn’t swing at a first pitch that’s forehead high, he doesn’t get down in the count and probably doesn’t hit a weak bouncer to SS. It was a poor AB all the way around, topped only by Tulo’s to close the inning.
by Northsider1964 on Jul 17, 2011 6:30 PM MDT up reply actions
Tulo
Was chasing the fences.
Again, or still.
However you look at it.
When all he needed was a bloop single.
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At this point,
I am forgetting about playoffs and basically waiting for a fun streak to happen. Now don’t take this as me giving up, but before any sort of streak happens I don’t give a bleep where we are in the standings and even more don’t give a bleepin’ bleep about how the Giants are doing.
So let’s start winning.
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There shall be no winning as long as the ghost of Cook continues to haunt this ballclub.
Oh, now be honest, NL West rivals, warriors to warriors. You do prefer it this way, don't you, as it was meant to be? No peace in our time. "Once more unto the breach, dear friends."
by jasontheuncatchable on Jul 17, 2011 6:07 PM MDT up reply actions
You
mean you just want consistent good baseball? What kind of fan are you?
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At this point all I'm asking
Is for anything besides the consistent soul-crushing baseball we’ve been subjected to thus far in 2011
No, see
of course I want them to win. But of course this doesn’t mean “omg I won’t take this anymore”. I guess I’m trying to be realistic here, while still clinging to a thread of whatever imaginary hope I have.
Maybe I’ve reached acceptance? Just enjoying baseball I guess.
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by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 6:13 PM MDT up reply actions
We all want them to win
and most of us have imaginary hope. I don’t think acceptance is what you have but maybe a true hope that good baseball follows, thus the enjoying baseball comment.
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Maybe
I guess I’ll have to find out : )
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by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 6:27 PM MDT up reply actions
There's a small, small part of me.....
that wishes Helton could get dealt to a big time contender so he can make a run at a ring. He’s busted his ass to put together a wonderful season and all he’ll get for it is another meaningless August and September.
Sure you want him to stay in purple for his entire career. But the man deserves better than this.
by evers44 on Jul 17, 2011 6:10 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm with you on this. He deserves better.
Just not the Yankees. The Cards seem to do well with aging sluggers…..
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How do you feel about him going to the Pirates or the Giants?
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It would sicken me.
But Todd doesn’t deserve to be flailing around on a losing team hoping for acknowledgment in his professional career.
Oh, now be honest, NL West rivals, warriors to warriors. You do prefer it this way, don't you, as it was meant to be? No peace in our time. "Once more unto the breach, dear friends."
by jasontheuncatchable on Jul 17, 2011 6:21 PM MDT up reply actions
I think Hurdle
Would love to have him. No Giants, no.
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I'd be ok with this
but who’s going to be paying for him, this year and next? Not the Pirates.
i'd be immensely happy with todd in the pirates for their miracle season
an understanding o’dowd probably wouldn’t try and take too much from them, either
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
And have a gaping hole at 1B
oh, wait….
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by Junction Rox on Jul 17, 2011 6:33 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't think anyone would want the subsequent years yet.
Maybe next year.
by DumbAndNerdy on Jul 17, 2011 6:19 PM MDT up reply actions
and then of course, if we shipped sent ubaldo out...
we’d have montero able to finish the season as our 1b, and ready for next year
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
the man deserves better than this
Agree; but sadly, we don’t get what we deserve.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 10:53 PM MDT up reply actions
Sunday doesn't HAVE to be like this...
but it is for a reason. We send our “B” team out there every time. WTF is that all about?
Why does Ellis, Helton, AND Iannetta need to have a rest? They just did with the 3 day All Star break! I can actually understand Helton, but Iannetta rested for 1/3 of the game last night, and Ellis is still young enough to play a day game after a night game during a week that he spent mostly resting.
Plain and simple, there’s no sense of urgency with this team. Tracy should have told his troops to “Man UP” after last night’s loss, and only rest Helton. We needed 3 of 4 wins in every way imaginable, but we once again succumbed to the “Sunday Mentality”.
Which reminds me….this team, from top to bottom, is mentally weak…..and those running it aren’t as smart as they think they are. Such a shame to piss this season away like this.
by GoRoxGo on Jul 17, 2011 6:20 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Particularly since Iannetta got tossed last night.
Seriously. How much of break did he really need there?
Oh, now be honest, NL West rivals, warriors to warriors. You do prefer it this way, don't you, as it was meant to be? No peace in our time. "Once more unto the breach, dear friends."
by jasontheuncatchable on Jul 17, 2011 6:21 PM MDT up reply actions
This is actually a fair point
You can rest these guys all you want when you’re 16 out in August. Right now, the A team should be out there. Agreed.
Agreed 100%
I’m up and down with the idea of letting Tracy go. One one hand, it seems to me (like you mention above) that this team is just mentally weak and always needs something other than itself to hit the ground running. First it was Hurdle; he got fired, we went on a run and everything was all hunky dory. Yet, here we are a year and a half later and we’re back to square one: underachieving baseball at it’s finest. You take a look at what Hurdle’s doing in Pittsburg — with that franchise none the less — and you just have to wonder if Tracy is another casualty in the line of guys who get the shaft for this teams intrinsic lack of fortitude, verve and vitality.
On the other hand, I look at the lineups like the one Tracy implemented today and constantly say to myself, “Is this guy trying to lose games?” I mean, it’s one thing to start Cook (0-5) if you trot out your very best offensive lineup possible, but it’s a whole different story when you have guys like Alfonzo, Stewart, Herrera, etc. in there with him. And the thing is, this isn’t just a once-in-a-month type of deal, it’s every three to four days that these implausible lineups are sent out. This cannot be mistaken as anything other than flat-out bad management.
I still think firing Tracy mid-season would be a mistake though, especially with the type of second-half runs this team has historically put together. I say lets wait out the remainder of the season and see what happens. If things continue to go downhill, then let him go this offseason, but maybe there’s some more “Lo Do magic” left in the tank. You never know.
by GoldenNugget on Jul 17, 2011 6:37 PM MDT up reply actions
Renck on Twitter:
“Rocks continue to talk w teams about Ubaldo including Yankees. But yanks not close on pitching rox want. And rox don’t have to compromise.”
Lots of smoke there, and it continues to blow. I fw e move him, we had better get historic return back.
I see Wiggy, Giambi, and Street...
as the most likely players to be traded. Wiggy is good depth for a team like the Yankees, Giambi can still be a DH for a team needing one, and Street can fill a bullpen hole somewhere. Betancourt is also a distinct possibility to be dealt.
Ubaldo is some sportswrter’s fantasy trade candidate because it give guys like Renck something to blabber about.
Explain why, please....
He’s proven he can still be a force as a DH.
While his contract is okay
no contending team is in need of a DH, and thus he will not be traded to an AL team.
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The Rays could use him,
but they probably wouldn’t take him.
by DumbAndNerdy on Jul 17, 2011 6:29 PM MDT up reply actions
He's 41 freaking years old
If the Rockies want to get rid of him they’ll just DFA him and another team will pick him up if they want him that badly
You mean we couldn't even get a midlevel AA prospect...
for him? I think we could. Offense is down in the AL (and all over MLB), and Giambi has rediscovered his power swing this season. Some team will be wanting to obtain him, even if it means they have to give up a long-reliever prospect.
I think all of the Ubaldo trade talk centers around
The fact that there are so many teams in contention and so few true impact players available. Those two factors make it much more likely that a GM will do something very, very stupid, and if the Rockies are going to be on the receiving end of an opposing GM doing something very, very stupid, I’m okay with that, even if it means giving up Ubaldo.
Also, the Rockies are probably shopping them,
even though they say they aren’t. It’s the double-secret trading block.
by DumbAndNerdy on Jul 17, 2011 6:33 PM MDT up reply actions
I think trading with the Yanks might be a bad idea
The best player they’re offering us is one we really don’t need (catcher). I’d rather trade with a team that can give us a potential stud pitcher, second basemen or something along those lines.
by GoldenNugget on Jul 17, 2011 6:40 PM MDT up reply actions
Im 100% against trading Ubaldo for any reason
but word on the street is that montero is a legit bat, and would likely become the 1b of the future upon arrival
It's Jim Tracy's Fault.
That kind of changes things
But still, we need pitching! The Giants freaking won a world series and continue to dominate the division, why? Because they have outstanding pitching! If we sell Ubaldo, that’s just another step backwards in my eyes, and we need to win now. Although I do like the idea of moving Montero to first in the hopes that he could join Cargo and Tulo as a third big bat in the lineup, I’d still take solid, proven pitching any day of the week.
by GoldenNugget on Jul 17, 2011 7:06 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree
and again i don’t like the idea of trading Ubaldo at all, however the other two pitchers we are asking for would be like getting Cargo, and the 2007 Version of Ubaldo and Morales plus more.
It's Jim Tracy's Fault.
More like the 2005 or 2006
versions of Ubaldo and Morales. Banuelos and Betances aren’t going to come up and contribute by the end of this season.
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by Junction Rox on Jul 17, 2011 9:22 PM MDT up reply actions
I wouldn't trade him unless we "won the lottery" in baseball trade terms...
Ubaldo just means too much to this franchise and its hopes over the next 2 to 3 years, even if 2011 is a complete write-off.
by GoRoxGo on Jul 17, 2011 7:20 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
You and O'Dowd share similar thoughts on trading Ubaldo
O’Dowd said we’d have to get a “Herschel Walker trade” to move him
My thoughts exactly
I want a Harper and a healthy Strasburg in return for Ubaldo… short of that lets hang on to a pitcher who says he wants to be a Rockie for Life.
It's Jim Tracy's Fault.
Sure because writing off this year is one thing
writing off the next 2-3 is another. Trading the Chief would be exactly that.
They have to do something
to improve if they want to compete next year. But this isn’t the move to do that. This is the move to try to be great in 2-3 years, but at the expense of any chance to win next year. That would be a massive and sudden course correction from where this franchise was 3 months ago. I’m always suspicious of changing course that suddenly…
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by Junction Rox on Jul 17, 2011 9:25 PM MDT up reply actions
i understand this stance
but here’s my question….how exactly do we know that we’re going to be a good team next year? without any moves, we’re going to have the same team + get JDLR back, sure. but there are still lots of questions marks, ranging from can CarGo/Tulo live up to their high expectations to can Dex/Stew contribute.
I don’t like the Yankees deal, simply because the arms we’d be getting back won’t help next year and Montero is a huge question mark to me. But if we did a deal with the Rangers and got back a guy like Martin Perez who is the youngest pitcher (just got promoted) in the PCL at 20, is a LHP hitting 95 and a top 10 prospect in baseball, then it might actually be a lateral move (considering other additions in the deal) for next year that improves us significantly in future years.
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by black_knight101 on Jul 17, 2011 9:33 PM MDT up reply actions
We don't know that
like I said, we have to do something to improve for next year. Starting with adding at least one middle of the order bat. And probably adding a starter. And some moves beyond that. But nothing that can’t be done. It’s not as if this team is hopelessly short of being good next year.
3 months ago, if you would have asked anybody if this team, in this situation right now, would look to build to win next year, or to step back and build for 2014, I think the answer would have been almost unanimous that they would go for it next year. A Ubaldo trade would go exactly the opposite direction. Like I said, I get nervous when the plan changes that fast. Kind of suggests to me that there may not be that much of a plan in the first place…
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by Junction Rox on Jul 17, 2011 9:37 PM MDT up reply actions
This may interest you
At the beginning of this year, John Sickels compared Manny Banuelos to Martin Perez. Perez has outperformed Banuelos this year.
yeah I actually just read that article
Perez seems like the better bet to me, but I’m no scout
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by black_knight101 on Jul 17, 2011 9:42 PM MDT up reply actions
banuelos and betances are potential stud pitchers
especially banuelos. Montero would definitely move to 1B, the Yankees are the only team claiming that he can stick at C
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by black_knight101 on Jul 17, 2011 6:45 PM MDT up reply actions
That catcher
is a pretty good hitter from what I hear, and he has the capability of playing first. In a couple years this could be very important.
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montero would take helton's spot at 1B
and the deal would come with at an absolute minimum 1 stud pitching prospect in banuelos or betances and probably nova as well
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
I'd hate to see Ubaldo go, but...
If the final deal for Ubaldo is Montero, Banuelos, Betances, and Nova, the Rox have to pull the trigger. That would absolutely stack the system’s upper levels with talent and give the Rox tons of options on the trade market. They’d have a ton of pitching depth to add quality to the rotation. A package of Hammel, Nova, and Scahill really wouldn’t hurt the long-term outlook of the staff, but could land a pretty solid arm to pair with Chacin, Nicasio, one of Banuelos/Friedrich/Betances, and eventually JDLR to form a pretty solid 2012 staff, too.
That assumes that all those guys pan out
Unless you flip them, they add nothing to the rotation this year or next, and there is always the possibility that they never add anything to the rotation.
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by Junction Rox on Jul 17, 2011 9:40 PM MDT up reply actions
there's also an equally high possibility that ubaldo gets injured and never throws another pitch
we can play what ifs all day long, fact of the matter is, such a deal has enough potential upside to well mitigate the downside of losing ubaldo
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
But much, much less chance that Ubaldo just isn't MLB quality
There would be one proven commodity in that trade. We would be the team giving him up. That’s not just playing “what if”. That’s a legitimate risk.
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by Junction Rox on Jul 17, 2011 10:25 PM MDT up reply actions
If we completely stock the system like KC has
We can be fairly assured that at least a few of them will “pan out” to form a strong five-man rotation. We know what we have with Chacin and probably Nicasio. I’d be willing to bet that we get at least two quality pitchers out of Banuelos/Betances/Nova/Esmil Rogers/Friedrich/Bettis/Matzek/Tago…by 2013 or 2014
Where is that approach getting KC?
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by Junction Rox on Jul 17, 2011 10:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Let's check back next year when the
players they got in trades this year and last year will be up with the team
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So if one of them pans out
and turns out to be a TOR starter, should they turn around and trade him for more prospects? That’s where I fear you end up on a treadmill…
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by Junction Rox on Jul 17, 2011 10:32 PM MDT up reply actions
You asked about Kansas City
with everything they have built up over the last 2-3 years in their farm system (from drafts and trades) we should get to see how everything pays off next year. I don’t know if they will trade away those players if they do pan out and the team still loses but I think we should see how it goes before we question their approach.
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Sorry, I kind of jumped from one point to another there
I’m a bit skeptical of pointing to KC’s approach in building the team as long as they are still terrible. I would say the Pirates are a pretty good example of what you’re talking about. OTOH, we’ve been through a couple generations of thinking the Rockies were a good example of how well that approach works, too…
The second point was that we’re talking about stocking the system so that it can produce stud players. We did exactly that with Ubaldo. If you turn around and turn that back into prospects, when do you stop? At some point you have to hold on to those guys and build a good team around them. That is supposedly the phase the Rockies were in at this point.
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by Junction Rox on Jul 17, 2011 10:44 PM MDT up reply actions
As we signed
Jimenez out of the DR I don’t know if anyone immediately thought he would be the Ace of our staff. In fact BA had him as our closer, and that was after he had a few years in the system. The players we would be trading for would be known and fairly highly touted (whether Yankees or somewhere else) and they would have expectations coming with them. As for holding guys to build around we have started that with Troy and Carlos and if we can get two or three guys that should produce at good levels for one player I don’t see that as being a problem (see Holliday, Matt [although that was slightly different circumstances]).
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Holliday was very different
there would have been nothing to show for him if we don’t make that deal. Don’t deal Ubaldo and you have Ubaldo to show for it.
And yes, I get that we would be getting touted prospects. Touted prospects are still unproven players. At one time Ian Stewart was every bit as highly touted as any of these players.
I’m not saying I’m opposed to this. Maybe it makes sense. But the idea that “you have to do it, it’s a can’t miss deal” is just wrong. It is a risk, and you have to weigh whether or not it makes sense to take it.
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by Junction Rox on Jul 17, 2011 10:57 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm not saying I'm all in either
I love Ubaldo and I would like to see him stay in a Rockies uniform for a long time. I would only want this trade to happen if it had a >80% chance of significantly improving the team for the next 4-7 years
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That's the thing though, they wouldn't all have to pan out
If you package a couple of guys out of Hammel/Nova/Nicasio along with another B prospect, you can add a solid middle of the rotation arm. With Chacin in place, and JDLR coming back at some point next season hopefully, you really only one of these guys to reach his potential as a TOR starter. If that happens, and Montero comes anywhere close to reaching his potential, this team will be in good shape for a long time.
So we would package a couple middle of the rotation arms
and a B prospect for a middle of the rotation arm? Where does that get us, exactly?
And if one of these guys reaches his potential as a TOR starter, we’re where we were with Ubaldo. Which means we’re taking on all the risk in this trade for the possibility of what Montero might be. Might be worth it. Might not.
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by Junction Rox on Jul 17, 2011 10:29 PM MDT up reply actions
there really isn't that much smoke honestly,
It’s just that its an elite pitcher and the Yankees, so EVERYONE is going to be digging for anything they can on it. Other than the Yankees wanting him (duh), a rox scout at a Yankees AA game (unrelated?), and the rox dangling Ubaldo, there is nothing here. Nothing is imminent….people just want to talk about it
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 17, 2011 7:40 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Like I said earlier
There’s a lack of big names in the trade market right now, so when one becomes available, EVERYBODY talks about it.
Quite frankly, my thoughts on trading Ubaldo are the same as my thoughts on trading anyone else, it all depends on what we can get in return.
On the FP
http://www.purplerow.com/2011/7/17/2280080/purple-row-radio-interview-with-1300-am-the-sports-animal
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2007 was a long time ago.
It seemed as though that was a start of big things to come for this franchise, but it’s pretty much fizzled out. It sucks most for Todd, but also for everyone involved. They were on the brink and gained some respectability just couldn’t pull it all together. Unfortunately so close, but not close enough. GRR…
On the Plus Side...
At least they’re coming up with new and creative ways to crush our souls.
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This is for everybody in this thread.
Think there’s another game on the schedule for tomorrow. Sun might even come out, too.
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by Franchise26 on Jul 17, 2011 6:51 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
Air will also be breathable, water wet, people will go to work and school
So what? People come to a Rockies blog to talk about the Rockies. And today they continued to suck.
I don't think I am
Just hot and sweaty because my house doesn’t have AC
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JFK
I would pay good money
to be taunted by Cam’Ron for my feelings on the Rockies. It would take some of the edge off actually.
Wait, what's his real name? We should make a joke out of that.
by BrandonHawpe on Jul 17, 2011 7:00 PM MDT up reply actions
The sun will come out tomorrow
bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow, there’ll be sun.
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
In line for seats at the Grand Junction Rockies 2012 home opener
by Junction Rox on Jul 17, 2011 9:26 PM MDT up reply actions
TOMORROW! TOMORROW!
I love you TOMORROW! It’s onnllllllyyyyyy aaaaaaa dayyyyyyyyyyy away!!!!!!
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
When I'm stuck a day
That’s gray and lonely
I just stick out my chin
And Grin,
And Sayyyyyyy,
Ohhhhhh…
Riding the rollercoaster that is Rockies baseball
by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 9:38 PM MDT up reply actions
It's going to be hot
and while the Rockies are not
I get to see them play
On my Birthday?
"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." ~Tallulah Bankhead
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~Greg, age 8
JFK
Okay Jeff
super awesome as you are, you are so, so, so very fired from sunday duty.
Score a goal. Unit. Basket. Go squadron! Do good! Defeat the opponents soundly in this...skirmish.
Take it up with management
The writer formerly known as Jabberwocky
READ and LEARN about the business of baseball at Purple Row Academy
Eschew Obfuscation!
form a union
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
Tulo's AB is so infuriating in many ways
Not just because it was the 27th out in a game they really should have won. Moreso because it shows that age 26, after parts of 6 seasons in the majors, he’s still got the pressure hitting mindset of a high schooler.
Pitch 1: Sitting dead red. Watches a hanging curve (a good sharp curve, but one that was elevated in the zone) drop in for an easy strike one. Goodman made a point on the broadcast that opposing pitchers have been doing that to him a lot, because he’s such a good fastball hitter, and I agree. I’ve seen it a lot, especially since late April. But hey, why adjust? Sitting dead red and hoping to hit it into the parking lot is more fun.
Pitch 2: OK, no more of this curveball nonsense, he’s sitting dead red again. Doesn’t come within a foot of hitting a slider that would have bounced off of Giambi’s knee.
Pitch 3: OK, on 0-2, there’s NO WAY Axford is going to throw a pitch out of the zone to get him to chase, is there? Nahhhh. He’ll definitely pipe a fastball. Troy’s just going to sit on it. And zoop, swing and a miss on an eye level fastball, game over. The best player on the team, a 4 year veteran who’s closer to 30 than 20, just looked like a 22 year old playing his first big league game.
Hasn’t it generally been agreed upon by the SABR community in recent years that clutch does not exist, but anti-clutch does?
Troy in “late and close” situations (via BBR):
2008: .217/.338/.276
2009: .222/.278/.344
2010: .227/.298/.347
2011: .174/.321/.326
I know every hitter’s stats get dinged in those situations because they’re more likely to be facing awesome relievers. But that’s just abysmal. Even though he had a great 2007 in late and close, his career numbers in such situations are just .224/.324/.355. I love the guy, happy he’ll (probably) be a Rockie his whole career, but I’m no longer excited when he’s up and the game is on the line. So far in his career, the guy has withered in the spotlight.
Wait, what's his real name? We should make a joke out of that.
What's the league slash line in late and close situations?
I’m sure it’s well below the overall slash line due to the quality late inning relievers who are usually pitching in those situations. I’d like to see those numbers.
I acknowledged that
Also, the league’s late and close splits (not sure where to find them) aren’t the whole story. I’d like to compare them to the league’s overall splits. Given that Troy is a career .288/.359/.495 hitter (meaning that his career late/close OPS is 175 points below his career overall line) I’m going to go ahead and guess with confidence that he “shrinks” in those situations way more than the league as a whole does, either by absolute or percentage terms. Usually the overall league OPS is somewhere around .730 or something, right? If that were true it would mean that for Tulo to be “normal,” the league would have to OPS .555 (absolute drop) or .580 (percentage drop) in late/close. That seems really unlikely.
For reference, I picked out 5 random Rockies or former Rockies with reasonably long careers, some awesome, others not. Totally random, I promise, just the first five random dudes I thought of. Here are their career OPS/late and close OPS
Todd: .975/.927
Garrett Atkins: .799/.656
Spilly: .780/.684
Neifi Perez: .672/.593
Preston Wilson: .797/.740
So really Atkins is the only guy even close to matching Troy’s ability to fail big time in those situations relative to his ability in all situations. Pretty depressing.
Wait, what's his real name? We should make a joke out of that.
by BrandonHawpe on Jul 17, 2011 7:33 PM MDT up reply actions
On the flip side, though, if you’re going to talk about clutch shouldn’t Tulo’s solid numbers with RISP and 2 outs be a point in his favor? Could just be sample size, though it’s not a pleasant four-year trend to look at, for sure.
I wanted him to fire at that first-pitch slider. I knew he was going to get it. Had it been the fourth inning, I bet he would have. Maybe he out-foxed himself a little bit.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
The cause
is over-aggrssion. Seriously, Tulo loses almost all patience in those spots.
he starts fixing the velcro on his gloves, winding his mind tighter and tighter
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
It breaks my heart
It’s like Tulo thinks the only thing he can do to be successful there is hit a walkoff HR. As smart as Tulo usually is as a player, Tulo’s approach there is that bad.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:06 PM MDT up reply actions
He has all the tools to be a beast in that spot and he needs to figure it out.....
And it probably starts with just little base hits to the opposite field.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Was there anything in the game thread or postgame regarding that situation with Saito in the 7th? Any idea what those fans were doing to upset him so badly? Had to be racial slurs, I would guess, but the Brewers broadcast (I was just dropping in on them for an inning) didn’t really elaborate on what was going on.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
I was under the impression is was a laser or something from KOA.
I’m probably wrong though.
Riding the rollercoaster that is Rockies baseball
by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 7:25 PM MDT up reply actions
Speculation that someone was shining something in his eyes
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Well, if it was that, wouldn’t there have been some kind of delay while the umpires went over to check it out? I didn’t see that happen on TV anyway.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
They tried to find a culprit, but none was found
They did take a couple of breaks to try and figure it out.
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Wow. Sawx and Rays
0-0 Top of the 10th
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Joel Peralta pitching for the Rays
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
OT: OMG Breaking Bad
Intense
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Yet again
The Rockies show that their ability to underachieve is far superior to any other team in major league baseball. It’s a good thing they don’t give out trophies for this because if they did, there wouldn’t be enough room in Coors Field to fit them all.
In this series, the Rockies outscored the Brewers 26-15…….. Sounds like they took three out of four right? Maybe even a sweep? NOPE!!!! Not our Rockies!!! They could do no better than a split – And to tell you the truth, I’m not surprised at all. The Rockies have no problem collecting hit after hit (20 is a matter of fact) on a Thursday night when they are already ahead by nearly double digits but put a man on second with nobody out in a close game in both the 8th and 9th innings and I probably have a better chance of getting a hit. Seriously, was there anybody out there who actually thought the Rockies were going to tie that game up when Wiggy was on second with nobody out? I know I sure didn’t.
This team has a classic bully mentality. Keep kicking other teams when they are down (like the Brewers were on Thursday) but run away and hide when challenged. On the field, they are everything I don’t want my team to be.
Usually, 9.5 games back in July is not a complete death blow when you have a team with as much talent as the Rockies have in their clubhouse – but this is not usually.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 10:06 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
On the plus side
This Rays/Red Sox game is one of the best baseball has seen all year. Unlike the Rockies, it reminds me why I love this game so much.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Whoa they're sill playing??
I was watching Breaking Bad….holy moly
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Top of the 11th (after Reddick robbed what might have been a walk off HR to end the 10th)
The Red Sox went walk, walk, walk, (Madden gets ejected) stirkeout, strikeout, popup.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Oh man I missed all the excitement
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
I thought they could
They had a lot better chance than they would have before the break, even with the same people coming to the plate.
"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." ~Tallulah Bankhead
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~Greg, age 8
JFK
Ah
You fell into their trap again. Today, for the first time, I didn’t.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 10:13 PM MDT up reply actions
I thought so too
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Wow. I've never heard you be so harsh.:(
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Yeah the bully thing is what got me
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
If only it would get to the team
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 10:20 PM MDT up reply actions
it'd be funny if they read it and tracy mentioned it in pre-game tomorrow
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
Ha, awesome.
Riding the rollercoaster that is Rockies baseball
by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 10:42 PM MDT up reply actions
I do wear my emotions on my sleeve but I also try to be fair and call it as I see it
What I see isn’t good.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 10:19 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't quibble with the bottom line of what you say.
Your tone just comes across as if they’ve personally offended you, and you no longer like them.
That's what I got from it
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Oh I still like them, love them even (what a sucker I am huh?)
But I invest (as I’m sure many of you do) so much into this team that I’m going to be furious if they do what they’ve been doing lately (as in nothing when the game is on the line). I mean, I’ll still go out and wear my Rockies cap tomorrow but I’m embarrassed to do it – That makes me angry.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 10:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Because they represent an underachiever
Something I try very, very hard not to be in life.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 10:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Meh. Overachieving is overrated :P
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
How about reaching your potential then?
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 10:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Maybe the Rockies are exactly what they are...
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Yeah,
I wish they would do something about that.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 10:47 PM MDT up reply actions
Eh, it's a sports team.
I just have a hard time letting who I root for say anything about what I believe personally.
So you haven't become a fan
of the football team across the Bay?
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
In line for seats at the Grand Junction Rockies 2012 home opener
by Junction Rox on Jul 17, 2011 10:45 PM MDT up reply actions
That's fine
Different strokes for different folks I guess
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 10:46 PM MDT up reply actions
It's a sad reality right now
Not winning this divsion with the talent this team has would be standard underachieving – which I despise enough – but pushing 10 GAMES BACK IN JULY!?!?!?!?!?! What more can you really say.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 10:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Well if the Giants would just freaking lose that would :P
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
What more can I say?
Maybe we AREN’T underachieving. Maybe it is what it is….a team of spotty talent, mental weakness, and weak fundamentals, especially when it matters.
O’Dowd doesn’t survive this. You heard it here first.
mental weakness, and weak fundamentals, especially when it matters
That’s all part of underachieving in my book. Those things are correctable.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 10:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Sort of semantics...
I call it under-producing or lack of execution. This happens more with lesser players.
The difference here is important
Players who show they have talent over the course of their career but don’t execute in big spots can learn to do so. It doesn’t have to be “what it is”.
Players who don’t execute because they are terrible all the time are a differnet story.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:00 PM MDT up reply actions
I've never seen a group of players this talented
Play this consistently crappy for 3 solid months, either.
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaA2eKABuEE
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
HAHAHAHAHA
Riding the rollercoaster that is Rockies baseball
by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 10:44 PM MDT up reply actions
Rays hit two balls to the warning track in the 12th off Morales but it's not enough
The game goes to the 13th
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 10:35 PM MDT reply actions
did he walk anyone?
"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." ~Tallulah Bankhead
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~Greg, age 8
JFK
Nope
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 10:56 PM MDT up reply actions
impressive
"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." ~Tallulah Bankhead
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~Greg, age 8
JFK
He through 19 pitches and 11 were strikes...
Recorded a single strikeout.
In an emergency, Matt Duchene can be used as a floatation device.
Todd Helton always drives in reverse... and he still drives better than you.
by Lost Winter on Jul 17, 2011 10:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Threw*
Typing fail
In an emergency, Matt Duchene can be used as a floatation device.
Todd Helton always drives in reverse... and he still drives better than you.
by Lost Winter on Jul 17, 2011 10:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Going to the 15th now scoreless
This is amazing
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:11 PM MDT up reply actions
seriously. And it's what 1 am there?
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Yep
12 minutes past…….
And the Red Sox have to play the O’s tomorrow in Baltimore.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Woww
I’m gonna watch this now..
Riding the rollercoaster that is Rockies baseball
by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 11:14 PM MDT up reply actions
You really should
it’s pretty amazing…
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
In line for seats at the Grand Junction Rockies 2012 home opener
by Junction Rox on Jul 17, 2011 11:14 PM MDT up reply actions
Oh darn blackout!!
Audio is cool though.
Riding the rollercoaster that is Rockies baseball
by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 11:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Why is it blacked out?
Aren’t you in Colorado? it’s on ESPN
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Oh sorry
I meant MLB.TV blackout. I forgot it was a national televised one. And I don’t have a tv.
Riding the rollercoaster that is Rockies baseball
by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 11:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Oh. I would think it would still be on MLB.TV weird
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
I think you can watch it from ESPN's website
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:21 PM MDT up reply actions
Yes, you can
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:22 PM MDT up reply actions
ESPN3?
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Yep
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Cool thanks.
Riding the rollercoaster that is Rockies baseball
by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 11:24 PM MDT up reply actions
So the Gints announcers were laughing this afternoon
because Dave Fleming was doing radio for this game tonight, leaving Jon Miller alone to do the radio on the extra innings game this afternoon. Apparently Fleming is supposed to fly back to work their game tomorrow.
At this point, Miller is probably getting the last laugh…
/puke
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
In line for seats at the Grand Junction Rockies 2012 home opener
Another nice warning track catch
This is probably the greatest game that has ever been played in this ballpark.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:14 PM MDT reply actions
Uh-Oh
I think the Red Sox are going to break through here
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:18 PM MDT reply actions
And get outta it...
Riding the rollercoaster that is Rockies baseball
by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 11:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Saved by the pop-up.
Altar Boy in the Church of Santo Ubaldo
"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
or not
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
It's nice to see the Red Sox offense has Colorado Rockies disease tonight
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:23 PM MDT up reply actions
It's contagious!
Quick! Everyone sign bullpens that are 12 pitchers deep!
Altar Boy in the Church of Santo Ubaldo
"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
HAHA
Red Sox are getting shut out and have left 15 men on base. Can you imagine if your team did something like that………..Oh wait :-(
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:25 PM MDT up reply actions
19 combined LOBsters 15 for the BoSox alone
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
The Rays have walked 11 people in this game (plus hit one)
and the Red Sox have done nothing with it
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:26 PM MDT up reply actions
OUCH!!! Did that hit him in his misters?
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Oh no, just got his shirt lol
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Yikes and hbp again!
Riding the rollercoaster that is Rockies baseball
by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 11:27 PM MDT up reply actions
ha! back to back HBP
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
This game is madness
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:28 PM MDT up reply actions
I'll laugh if he hits another one and the walks in the winning run
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
I'm thinking this game will end on something over the top outrageous like that
I’m hopeing for the Red Sox taking a lead followed by a Papelbon blown save myself.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Phase 1:
Complete
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:46 PM MDT up reply actions
I approve of this fine plan. Make it so
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
And he got threw last inning on 5 pitches so it's not like he was wild
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Send out a position player
Can’t use Papelbon yet.
Altar Boy in the Church of Santo Ubaldo
"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
I was all ready to call for a double steal
But infield fly fail got in the way.
Altar Boy in the Church of Santo Ubaldo
"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
I was hoping AGon and 2b would have collided
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
It was still an infield fly, right?
Altar Boy in the Church of Santo Ubaldo
"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
Yeah I think so
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Wow, That was almost a disaster between 2b and AGone
whoops. Darn
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Well, the Red Sox ARE involved
You just knew it had to be a LOBster bake.
Altar Boy in the Church of Santo Ubaldo
"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
Onto the 16th.
Over/under for 20 innings?
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Also, we might need a snack
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
I'm having a bowl of cereal
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Ha! I had Crunch Berries for dinner!
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by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 11:36 PM MDT up reply actions
That's dinner?
I’mcan’t decide between having Kashi Go Lean or some oatmeal. Undecided. What say you all?
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
steak
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
I'm not making steak at 10:30 at night.
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
insanity
it’s always time for steak
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
Then I won't sleep at all!
Weird dreams and such
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Oatmeal's too much work.
Altar Boy in the Church of Santo Ubaldo
"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
Good point
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Kashi
And yes, dinner. We had a large lunch.
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by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 11:38 PM MDT up reply actions
Here we go.
I guess it’s appropriate.
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by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 11:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Under
The Red Sox have won a 16 inning game here before
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:35 PM MDT up reply actions
longest game by time in rays history
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
LOL Bobby Valentine.....decided the game on Penalty At Bats. That would be awesome
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Leadoff walk again
You have to think this is going to get the Rays at some point
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:37 PM MDT reply actions
especially against boston
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
And that may be the play that sets it up
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:40 PM MDT up reply actions
Yikes.
Altar Boy in the Church of Santo Ubaldo
"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
Yikes is right!
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Oh well not deep enough. Yay
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
If I'm the Red Sox
This is the guy I want up here
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:41 PM MDT reply actions
and that's why
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Jul 17, 2011 11:42 PM MDT up reply actions
done and done
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
Awww crap.
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by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 11:41 PM MDT reply actions
10,000 people in the stands...
and not a soul has left the building
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
So attendance at beginning of game is the same as now?
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
It was actually a pretty good crowd to start
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:43 PM MDT up reply actions
well it was more of a crack at how nobody goes to rays games
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
Yes that the joke
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
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Altar Boy in the Church of Santo Ubaldo
"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
I don't get it
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
You made me look it up
Altar Boy in the Church of Santo Ubaldo
"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
They just broke the 0-0 tie.
Someone just lost a soul.
Altar Boy in the Church of Santo Ubaldo
"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
Bah.
Altar Boy in the Church of Santo Ubaldo
"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
This just sets up an awesome Papelbon implosion
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
pleasepleasepleaseplease
(Although I kind of wanted them to lose with him still sitting in the bullpen)
Altar Boy in the Church of Santo Ubaldo
"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
That would be spectacular
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:44 PM MDT up reply actions
I want to seriously punch him upside the head and in the nose
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
And tell him to get off our Coors Field lawn.
Gah that still pisses me off
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
I want to lock him and Brain Wilson in a padded room together and see what happens
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Papelbon/Wilson slashfic
ewwwwwwwww
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Can I add about 500 rabid badgers?
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Jul 17, 2011 11:47 PM MDT up reply actions
Ooh, good call.
Altar Boy in the Church of Santo Ubaldo
"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
And some piranhas.
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by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 11:49 PM MDT up reply actions
Only if it comes with snakes and a group of angry monkies
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:49 PM MDT up reply actions
Wouldn't the snakes just try to eat the badgers?
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Jul 17, 2011 11:50 PM MDT up reply actions
No see
you have to let them in one by one.
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by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 11:50 PM MDT up reply actions
You guys are doing it wrong
Hyenas
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
That would work
they could laugh right along with me….
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Jul 17, 2011 11:51 PM MDT up reply actions
That was meatball
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
awesome catch by Z
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
Great play Zobrist! Go RAYS!!!!
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
That catch gives them a Ray of hope for the bottom of the inning
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Why is the 'r' capit....
Oh.
Altar Boy in the Church of Santo Ubaldo
"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
And now I lose the satellite reception
thunderstorm rolling through just in time for the Pimplebutt implosion…
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
In line for seats at the Grand Junction Rockies 2012 home opener
Swell. ESPN3.com
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
I don't have the right internet provider
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Jul 17, 2011 11:49 PM MDT up reply actions
well that stinks
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
it's sort of back now...
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Jul 17, 2011 11:51 PM MDT up reply actions
the right side of the red sox infield
so ridiculously good
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
We'll have no RedSox appreciation here buddy
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
A-Gone's basically still a mercenary Padre
Altar Boy in the Church of Santo Ubaldo
"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
Yeah, I respect him, but he's dead to me
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
trust me, normally i'm the last person who would ever say anything good about the red sox
but try as i might, i can’t hate pedroia, he’s too good, and a-gone is still just a padre in disguise to me
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
Yankees Lite
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:50 PM MDT up reply actions
What??? I'm not sure he went around
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
yeah he crossed the plate
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
I'm still not sure you call that at this point in this game
Especially without an appeal. And especially when if it’s a clean strike 3, he could have tried for 1st.
Altar Boy in the Church of Santo Ubaldo
"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
Poor guy just walked away
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
I think he was trying to sell the "I didn't swing" claim.
Altar Boy in the Church of Santo Ubaldo
"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
He did
I don’t think I’m gonna like the way this game ends.
Why should I expect anything different though.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:52 PM MDT up reply actions
Your plan was terrible mister!!!
Back to the drawing board
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Yeah...
Now what am I s’posed to do.
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by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 11:57 PM MDT up reply actions
I find myself going back there every day
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 18, 2011 12:03 AM MDT up reply actions
Okay Reid Brignac...(that is a baseball name as much as Aubrey Huff
Actually they should start a winery.
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
He's trying to tie it up on one swing.
Altar Boy in the Church of Santo Ubaldo
"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
what a lame series so far (rays/sox)
who would have thought that of niemann and shields, niemann would throw the 8 shutout innings with 10 Ks, and shields would get rocked… sounds like our season in a nutshell
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
I'm trying to forget our team for a few hours
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Booooooo
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by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 11:54 PM MDT reply actions
BOOOOOOOOO
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Frickin' Sawks.
Altar Boy in the Church of Santo Ubaldo
"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
god i hate papelbon
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
This so much.
I think he is my most hated player. Hmm pretty sure.
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by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 11:56 PM MDT up reply actions
And that a pretty extensive list
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Yup
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by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 11:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Oh shut up you big whiners. Play 22 innings and then talk to us.
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Don't forget that those poor souls also had to play 9 games without a DH last month
You should feel bad for them……..
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:58 PM MDT up reply actions
I dislike Pedroia so very much.
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Well that was disappointing
I wish I could go into hibernation until next April. This season infuriating me
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:57 PM MDT reply actions
Well you could....
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Really?
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 17, 2011 11:58 PM MDT up reply actions
it's tough to time waking up from a coma..
might overshoot it and wake up in the middle of may
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
No one is stopping you technically
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Carbonite, dude.
(Seriously- please don’t)
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by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 11:59 PM MDT up reply actions
It won't kill him.
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Yeah
I don’t want to go there
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 18, 2011 12:02 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah
You never know whose wall you’ll end up a decoration on.
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by prettyinpurple on Jul 18, 2011 12:05 AM MDT up reply actions
what if luke misses that jump?
then it’s into the sarlaac for everyone
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
if it's not tracy's fault, it's not not tracy's fault, either
Who's going to wear the chain mail bikini?
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Jul 18, 2011 12:04 AM MDT up reply actions
Well a chain mail bikini would just go intoa spam filter
but if you mean a chainmaille I can’t say
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Spring training is nice.
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by prettyinpurple on Jul 17, 2011 11:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Oh man here we go.
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
It actually is better than this
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 18, 2011 12:01 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, I hear ya. I'm probably going to cancel my MLB.TV
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Ha
No I’m just saying if he were to go into hibernation, it would be a better idea to wake up on P&CR.
But for me personally, I enjoy torture and baseball. Plus the offseason isn’t THAT bad without lineup moaning every day….
Augh, quick help!- Stanwood has brainwashed me!
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by prettyinpurple on Jul 18, 2011 12:03 AM MDT up reply actions
I was like who the heck is Stanwood. But then I remembered
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Hahaha
I was gonna say WolfMarauder, actually.
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by prettyinpurple on Jul 18, 2011 12:05 AM MDT up reply actions
So does your family call you PiP?
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
My sister does, sometimes actually, haha.
She knows.
Once the rest of my family was all “We should call you Purp! Ha! Since you like purple so much!”. It was kinda bizarre.
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by prettyinpurple on Jul 18, 2011 12:09 AM MDT up reply actions
At least this year
The Rockies will have just as many clutch hits from October through March as they did from May through September
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 18, 2011 12:06 AM MDT up reply actions
Heh
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by prettyinpurple on Jul 18, 2011 12:09 AM MDT up reply actions
Wow
Ellsbury was 0-8 in that Red Sox/Rays game. That’s gonna hurt his numbers
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 18, 2011 12:15 AM MDT reply actions
Tracy
I had a real problem with his statement at the beginning of the season when Travy said “we know we’re going to be good, do we have what it takes to be great”; this team is mediocre at best, beating up on marginal pitchers and “puffing up” after accomplishing that! Recently, the defense, which held them together, has gone south and our weaknesses are spotlighted.
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