Tuesday Pebble Report: Lopsided Boxscores Dominate Minors, DSL Pitching Prospects Shine
AAA Colorado Springs Sly Sox: W 12-4
The Sky Sox put up 18 hits against the Las Vegas 51s, with everybody in the starting lineup providing at least one of them. The offense was led by recent MLB castoffs Eric Young Jr. (a home run short of a cycle) and Chris Nelson (a triple short of a cycle, having hit his seventh MiLB home run of the season in the game). Right fielder Joe Mather also got three hits in the game, while Cole Garner, Mike Paulk and Jordan Pacheco had two. Every batter scored at least one run except for second baseman Alfredo Amezaga. The Sky Sox offense was entirely hit-based, as they did not walk a single time in the game.
Starting pitcher Billy Buckner was hittable, giving up nine total hits over his six innings pitched, and allowing four earned runs. He also walked two and struck out six. Sean White and Edgmer Escalona combined for three innings of effective relief to finish the game. Buckner received his second win of the season.
Catcher Wilin Rosario continued his fiery July with a four hit night (all singles), but he wasn't the only one to accomplish that challenge. Shortstop Hector Gomez had a fantastic game, notching four hits of his own, which included his ninth and tenth home runs of the season, one of which was a third inning grand slam. He batted in seven of Tulsa's 13 runs. Center fielder Tim Wheeler hit his organization leading 27th home run, while right fielder Brian Rike hit his fourth. Both outfielders also had two hits each on the night.
Starter Josh Sullivan was effective early against Springfield, but struggled in the third and fourth innings, which was as far into the game as he made it (he was pulled in the fifth after giving up a leadoff homer). Sullivan allowed three home runs in the game, which accounted for half of the total hits he allowed in the game. He also walked four batters, while striking out five. Joey Williamson gave up one run in two innings of relief, and Joe Torres a run in one. The seventh and eighth innings were pitched cleanly by Stephen Dodson, who got his seventh win of the season, all of which have come in relief.
A+ Modesto Nuts: L 7-6 (10 innings)For the first time since being promoted, Edwar Cabrera was touched up for six runs over seven innings. He allowed eight hits and two walks, while striking out six. Breakout reliever Coty Woods allowed an unearned run in the tenth inning, leaving his shiny 0.94 ERA undamaged, but he was stuck with his second loss on the year. The run was Woods' fault nonetheless; he threw away the ball while attempting to pickoff a runner at first base, allowing the runner at third to score. That Rancho Cucamonga batter at first had been intentionally walked. Ouch.
All 11 Modesto hits came from the top five batters in the Nuts lineup: three each from second baseman Angelys Nina and third baseman Nolan Arenado, two each from right fielder Kent Matthes and first baseman Kiel Roling, with shortstop Josh Rutledge providing the last, a game tying single in the top of the ninth. Matthes knocked in three runs, while Arenado scored twice.
Despite striking out eleven times, the Tourists found homered their way to victory. Center fielder Rafael Ortega (fourth), left fielder Corey Dickerson (20th) and shortstop Joey Wong (second) each hit multi-run home runs to contribute to Asheville's lead. Ortega and Wong were also both two-hit players, along with second baseman Brett Tanos and first baseman Mark Tracy.
Josh Slaats threw very well, allowing five hits and two walks over seven innings pitched. He struck out eight. The Greensboro Grasshoppers didn't do damage until the eigth inning when pitching convert Stephen Head, who did well with the Dust Devils but has struggled with the Tourists so far, allowed three runs including a two run home run. Taylor Reid walked two batters in the ninth, but no further damage was done. Slaats was awarded his fifth win of the year.
A- Tri-City Dust Devils: L 9-6
The Dust Devils tried to mount an eleventh hour offensive charge against the Yakima Bears, scoring five runs in the final two innings, but it would not be enough. Center fielder Jaron Shepherd, second baseman Timothy Smalling and right fielder Jared Simon each had two hit nights, accounting for six of the seven Tri-City hits. A triple from Smalling was the only extra base hit they could manage.
Starter Christian Bergman allowed five runs over six innings on eight hits and a walk, leading to his third loss of the year. He struck out four. Ching Lung Lo threw very well in the seventh and eighth, but a run was charged to him after he walked a batter in the ninth, which would come around to score as part of a three run rally off of Chris Dennis that would cement the game in Yakima's favor.
The Ghosts managed just three hits against the Helena Brewers. Catcher Angel Reyes hit his third home run of the year, a solo shot, and a two run double from right fielder Robert De La Cruz was all the run production created. The third hit was a single from third baseman Samuel Mende, off to a hot start to his professional career. The Ghosts did manage to walk six times against Helena pitching, including three from center fielder David Kandilas.
Ghosts pitching struggled. Starter Patrick Johnson got his second loss of the season after allowing five runs on seven hits and a walk over just three innings, though he did net four strikeouts. Alving Mejias threw four innings of relief, allowing another three runs on six more hits and another walk. Another four runs over two innings from Jeremiah Sammy finally ended the massacre,
DSL Rockies: Double header
Down 2-1 in the bottom of the seventh, the DSL Rockies came back to win on a double from catcher Jose Briceno. Briceno was the only batter on the team to have multiple hits. Starter Jayson Aquino pitched the complete seven inning game, allowing the two earned runs on seven hits and three walks. He struck out seven and received his fourth win of the season.
This time, the Rockies were the away team, and despite only getting six hits in this second game, 10 runs were scored. This is due to a whopping fourteen walks given up by the DSL Padres. The top six batters in the lineup each had one hit to account for them all. Starter Johendi Jiminian allowed three runs, though they were all unearned (the Rockies made four errors, three of which came from third baseman Eddy Morrobel). He allowed four hits and struck out seven. Reliever Julio Sanchez struck out the side in his inning of work. In the seventh inning, Angel Marcano allowed four earned runs on three hits, including a three run home run, while recording just one out. Carlos Leon allowed two hits and an unearned run in Marcano's stead, but finished off the inning with two strikeouts, leading to his first save of the year and awarding Jiminian his fourth 2011 win.
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Tim Wheeler, holy crap
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I'm going to just call him Hansel from now on
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 19, 2011 9:07 AM MDT up reply actions
I need to see this kid play.
In May, I was willing to disregard his power inflation as a fluke. All he’s done since then is get better.
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I know CS might not be a good place to get a quality read on Wheeler
but should he move up just to be closer to the big club. I know the talent is probably better in AA, but he might see some more refined pitchers in AAA.
"Whenever I see an old lady slip and fall on a wet sidewalk, my first instinct is to laugh. But then I think, what if I was an ant, and she fell on me. Then it wouldn't seem quite so funny."
Jack Handy quote
When I saw him take BP in Scottsdale, I kept thinking he was Ben Paulsen
Partly because he was #71 and Paulsen was #72, but also because he was a lot taller than I realized and was hitting the ball with more authority than either Blackmon or Paulsen. It makes sense now, I suppose.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 19, 2011 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions
He's hit some oppos
You can view Rosario/Gomez/Wheeler/Fields highlights on this channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/MyTulsaDrillers?feature=chclk
by rururuland784 on Jul 19, 2011 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions
The Jose Bautista of the minor leagues
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 19, 2011 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions
I am getting so excited for Wheeler.
That is a LOT of dingers.
Worshiping the holy trinity of Cargo, Tulo, and Ubaldo
Springfield is very HR friendly park
but that’s a much bigger caveat for Gomez and Rike than it is Wheeler. I guess I’m saying that I’m more impressed by his two BB’s, 0 K’s than I am his HR. He’s already shown the power, now he’s showing an ability to wait for his pitches.
I really wonder if Dex continues to struggle
will it be Wheeler that gets the next shot or will we stick with the easier selection and go back to Garner? I guess the same could be said if Spilly is dealt.
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Wheeler has hit his HR everywhere
11 home, 16 road
by rururuland784 on Jul 19, 2011 10:29 AM MDT up reply actions
I know, that's why I said it was a bigger caveat for Gomez and Rike
Again, there’s zero question whether Wheeler has power. Offensively it’s only a question of whether it’s going to be pull only, and also if his contact skills will keep him from maximizing his potential at the plate.
Right
From what I can tell from the highlights, Wheeler has shown very good opposite field power. Doubles in the left-center gap and a couple home-runs (at least at home).
Haven’t seen him go to center, however.
by rururuland784 on Jul 19, 2011 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions
3k's in his last 21 at bats
4 walks…. Very nice short term trends for he and Rosario.
by rururuland784 on Jul 19, 2011 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions
It has been a very good month in Tulsa
It’s funny how much there is to be excited about there compared to the Springs.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 19, 2011 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions
The Springs? What are those?
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No doubt
Check out some of Gomez’ defensive highlights if you have chance. What a talent.
by rururuland784 on Jul 19, 2011 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions
He makes so many amazing plays
But he also makes a truckload of errors.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 19, 2011 11:32 AM MDT up reply actions
Individual minor league errors are a pretty useless stat.
Counting truckloads is a little more useful, though. Gomez still needs to tighten the defense, and it’s part of the real tragedy all his lost innings have led to.
Right, just like his bat
Some guys never polish their skills. But if Gomez does he can be incredible. IDK what we’d do with him. Diminishing returns if you put him at 2B given his range and arm.
by rururuland784 on Jul 19, 2011 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions
3B?
Not sure if he could stick there, but with a SS range and a plus arm may be a better fit.
Or trade him for pitching.
I want to say how awesome a particular Rockies player is and that he will be the MVP, but the last time I mentioned it in my sig he went out with an injury, so, GO PLAYER WHO IS SO AWESOME!
He'd still be valuable at 2B if his bat was MLB level.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 19, 2011 12:59 PM MDT up reply actions
Converted SS with range have proven value at 2B..
especially with the hole on the 1B side created from holding the runner on. Robbie Alomar was a great example of this example. He was constantly getting to balls in the hole while the 1B was stuck on the base.
We knew that would be the case though
even ignoring Wheeler. Asheville hasn’t been as exciting
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 19, 2011 11:32 AM MDT up reply actions
I didn't know it would be to this degree
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 19, 2011 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm quietly pleased with Campos, Slaats, Ortega
okay with Parker.
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I'm okay with where Adames is
He has held his own and developed a little more strength. Nothing totally exciting anywhere, just ho-hum, which is good compared to big league expectations
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 19, 2011 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions
I was going to type Adames
but I expected a little more this year.
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I didn't have very high hopes for him jumping to Asheville yet tbh
The development of strength is enough for now.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 19, 2011 11:40 AM MDT up reply actions
no breakouts in Asheville
but the good news is that only Russell Wilson has flamed out there among players we had hope in, and he wasn’t that likely to succeed, anyway.
As has Rosario
Just as you were pointing out that severe flaw in his game.
by rururuland784 on Jul 19, 2011 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions
Even though the HR was off a lefty?
Only 5 of his 26 HR’s last night were against LHP
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 19, 2011 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions
HAHAHAHA
Before last night.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 19, 2011 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions
Goldschmidt is having an incredible season
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yeah I saw that as well
he hit 35 homers last year too. somewhat concerning considering he plays for the Diamondbacks
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by black_knight101 on Jul 19, 2011 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions
I've scrolled back to '99
and it looks to me that he has a chance to hit the most home runs of any 24 year old or under prospect in a long, long time.
He is putting up Adam Dunn kind of power numbers.
by rururuland784 on Jul 19, 2011 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions
Haha
That’s what I was saying a couple weeks ago. Dex does not appear to have made any strides on the left-side.
by rururuland784 on Jul 19, 2011 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions
Yep, that and I just think it's pretty obvious at this point that Wheeler's made the leap
He’s better than AA, AAA isn’t going to be much different, particularly at Colorado Springs. The test will be the MLB, and if he is ready for that, than the Rockies are wasting time not having him up.
That would be great and totally agree
While it would be an evaluation, I think there’s a good chance he’d provide a big lift.
It’s easy to talk gloom and doom now. Adding a power bat to this line-up could go a long way.
by rururuland784 on Jul 19, 2011 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions
I've tried making arguments against this the past two months
but he’s pretty much demolished all of them. He’s even improved against LHP.
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Would you start him everyday or platoon with Dex
I think Dex could still have a role here taking over for Spilly as a RH platooner.
Not going to get a better defensive outfielder off the bench.
by rururuland784 on Jul 19, 2011 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions
it's the same discussion we're having in the Rockpile
Time to figure out what we have going forward.
If Wheeler is legitimate, we may see an OF get traded this offseason
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Would that be necessary
We know Spilly is out of the picture. That leaves you with 4 outfielders for 2 spots. And i think Dex can be a very good reserve.
Obviously it’s all contingent on the market. But we’ve got to have a right-handed outfield bat.
by rururuland784 on Jul 19, 2011 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions
Right
4 OF being Blackmon, Wheeler, Dex and Smith.
If you’d hypothetically consider moving Smith ( and I wouldn’t want to do that obviously
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by black_knight101 on Jul 19, 2011 11:14 AM MDT up reply actions
nvm i see what you're saying 4 OF for 2 spots
doh.
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by black_knight101 on Jul 19, 2011 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions
We have fringe full time starting OF's coming out of our ears
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 19, 2011 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions
Which can be a good thing
If you have a right/left complement, which we would with Dex and Smith/Wheeler.
Blackmon seems to be the odd guy out to me.
by rururuland784 on Jul 19, 2011 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions
Assuming Wheeler adjusts to the MLB okay
Which is why I think you have to call him up now. Blackmon’s value would only go down if he’s sent back to AAA to start next season. If you know for sure that Wheeler’s going to cut it, Blackmon can be moved before then for more than you’d get afterward.
Absolutely,given that assumption
I wonder what a Blackmon equivalent would be out on the market this off-season.
I would imagine it would be prospect for prospect.
by rururuland784 on Jul 19, 2011 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions
my kingdom for a quality right handed OF
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I think you've got to start both as much as possible, frankly.
as a sort of extended competition for the 2012 starter’s job. That would mean limiting Smith’s time in your aforementioned platoon situation and allowing more time for Cargo to heal/recuperate from his various injuries.
We know what we have with Smith and Cargo, their spots for 2012 should be secure. It’s the other two that the Rockies need to take a closer look at.
Unless we trade Dex and EYJ for Alex Gordon and Jeffres like I did on MLB2k11
That’d be swell
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 19, 2011 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions
...made easier by the fact that Wheeler is a corner bat these days
especially if reports of his defense are accurate.
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He has a very awkward stride
He doesn’t look like Cargo, for example. A little bit of a Holliday deal. But he seems to have good range even if his routes seem a little clumsy and he’s made some great plays.
by rururuland784 on Jul 19, 2011 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions
I am not so sure Smith's role isn't going to be
4th OF in 2012
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Behind Blackmon and Wheeler?
Three lefties so when does he start?
by rururuland784 on Jul 19, 2011 11:14 AM MDT up reply actions
I see a trade coming on
Cargo, Wheeler, Smith, Blackmon
all LHB, all potential starting OF next season. One of them may be gone this offseason.
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that's why we have to see Wheeler in the MLB sometime soon
to know if we can count on him for a starting spot next season.
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by black_knight101 on Jul 19, 2011 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions
One of them has to be gone next season
Smith as a “platoon at most player” makes the most sense.
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I think he's probably the most likely to be traded
since the Rox see him as a platoon only player, whereas another team might see him as a full time OF
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by black_knight101 on Jul 19, 2011 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions
Why do you think another team would view as full-timer
more so than the Rockies?
by rururuland784 on Jul 19, 2011 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions
just speculating
if there’s a bazillion Rox fans that do, maybe one of the other teams do as well.
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by black_knight101 on Jul 19, 2011 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions
but he's also the surest bat of the non-Cargo class
after this year’s struggles, I’d hate to get rid of the only sure .800+ OPS bat we have in the OF
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he's also not a leadoff hitter
which is something that we need at somepoint, and might get out of Blackmon/Wheeler/maybe even Dex…
I’m torn too about what to do with all these OFs.
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by black_knight101 on Jul 19, 2011 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions
Wheeler's not really a classic leadoff guy
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true, but why have they had him bat leadoff in Tulsa?
it seems like they could move him to 4th if they saw him as a middle of the order guy.
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by black_knight101 on Jul 19, 2011 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions
It probably has to do with the amount of PA's he's going to see.
It’s a sign that the organization wants to know as much as possible what they have in him.
Yeah, improve his plate discpline
And the fact that he can run.
by rururuland784 on Jul 19, 2011 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions
Didnt tulo bat leadoff
To maximize his at bats or am I misremembering
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by nodakroxfan on Jul 19, 2011 11:34 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
He did
I remember following those box scores
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 19, 2011 11:39 AM MDT up reply actions
Imagine for a moment though
That Wheeler is a legit corner OF bat.
You could slid him into the 5th or 6th hole in the lineup. Nothing wrong with Cargo leading off when you have legit power in the middle of the order.
by rururuland784 on Jul 19, 2011 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions
Surest partime bat yes and I get that it might be a tough situation
but the Rockies only see him as a platoon player which leads me to believe they think more of Blackmon and possibly Wheeler.
Time for some of this Rockies: "One of the beautiful things about baseball is that every once in a while you come into a situation where you want to, and where you have to, reach down and prove something." Nolan Ryan
As much as I hate Smith being viewed that way
I think you’re right.
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That's the reason I would like to see Smith transition to 1B..
because there are so many young OF pushing through. Unless the Rockies think Ian is legit and Arenado might be a candidate for 1B.
You see Helton falling off a cliff again?
I think you’d be able to maximize a return now if you traded Blackmon (assuming Wheeler proves himself), as opposed to keeping all of them and waiting for Smith to take over 1B.
Parker will be ready before that happens, IMO.
by rururuland784 on Jul 19, 2011 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions
yeah I'm not worried about 1B at all
somebody will fit there, whether it be Parker or Arenado or gasp Montero. ha.
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by black_knight101 on Jul 19, 2011 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions
Helton is one bad plane ride from being out of the lineup for a month..
and as much as I love Wiggi and Giambi, there needs to be an everyday LH option at 1B and right now Ben Paulsen doesn’t look ready.
I'd like to see Smith taking groundballs now
like we did with Hawpe and I-dog last year.
by rururuland784 on Jul 19, 2011 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions
I know the Rockies are more worried about rushing prospects
but I would really like to see Arenado get fast-tracked. I know he is really young but any chance 1500-1700 minor league PA is all he needs?
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Arenado's already on a fast track.
He’s likely to see time in the MLB mid to late 2012. For a HS pick, that’s very quick. You see with Mike Trout what happens when you jump the gun a little too much.
Correction: "Likely" was the wrong word there.
The bigger likelihood is spring/summer 2013, but it’s still a fast track for a HS pick and he’ll be in good position to buck the timeline next year.
I agree..
if you look at how he struggled in High A early this year, he needs to work his way up the system instead of getting rushed too soon. This is a player who can be very special, but not if he becomes rushed to get there.
Not sure I agree with slow is better theory
I say challenge the special talents you have. If they are special they will make it. Of course this is just my opinion.
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I was hoping for more of a Freddie Freeman type of fast track
Who I have heard him compared too.
Appears he is on pace to get around 2200 minor league abs whereas Freeman had 1700. So an extra season.
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How do you figure?
Arenado will end up around 1100 PA after this season. Another 400-500 next year and then he’s a possible candidate.
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Figuring 500 for 2012 and 2013 up in late 2013 or 2014
Assuming AA and AAA full seasons.
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At his current pace, he's not going to have a full AAA season before he's called up.
And if he’s successful at the MLB level, he won’t be going back.
Great if AAA is only a short stint
I am not sure I like the fact AAA is almost a lost league for prospects
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I think both AA and AAA may be short stints
If he hits as well as he is now in Tulsa, he’ll likely get moved to Colorado Springs mid-season. That’s where the Sep. 2012 cup of coffee is a real possibility. For 2013, I don’t know if they’ll give him the third base job right away or ease him into it, I’m guessing the latter and a summer call-up.
He may be a September callup in 2012
and in the big leagues in 2013
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That would be great
Odds on the Rockies doing just that?
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I think they're really high on him
and if Stewie never pans out, we’ll be looking for a 3B sooner rather than later
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Extend Wiggy for a season while waiting for Arenado?
/shudders
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I'm sure Mark Reynolds or some other Balt castoff..
will be available by then. That’s the usual turn of events.
have I expressed my opinion on PR yet
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by black_knight101 on Jul 19, 2011 12:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Trade is called for.
As noted above, the Rox have a surplus of fringe-quality outfielders. They have a dire shortage of pitching. A trade or trade(s) should happen.
Can’t get much for a Spilly rental. Cargo’s not going anywhere. Nor would I think about trading Wheeler at this point. That leaves Dex, Smith & Blackmon as trade bait.
Get busy, Dealin’ Dan.
2011 Rockies -- what the hell?
Problem is, only Dex can hit from the right side on that list. Can you really see us entering the season with only LHB in the outfield?
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They'd have to be balanced out
with RH infield bats. Which would mean no Stew at 3B.
But actually I’m OK with 3 LH batters in the outfield. Many lineups are heavy with RH batters, so why not a lefty-heavy lineup? There are more RHP than LHP, so if your talent is more on the left-hand batting side, that’s preferable to the other way around.
2011 Rockies -- what the hell?
Keeping Wiggy and Dex
Would give you two good right vs left guys. It would allow to sub for 3 different spots on the field.
That’s why you shouldn’t trade either, but try to get them to accept their new roles now.
by rururuland784 on Jul 19, 2011 11:35 AM MDT up reply actions
It's creative, certainly
I don’t hate it at all.
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Use your bench
Platoons are underrated IMO. I think it’s cheaper to pay two one dimensional players than one star.
by rururuland784 on Jul 19, 2011 11:39 AM MDT up reply actions
Agreed
I don’t have a problem with either Dex or Wiggy as RH subs off the bench. But I don’t think either makes a good fulltime starter.
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Right
And they wouldn’t be. A lot of NL teams would love to have two players of that caliber off the bench.
by rururuland784 on Jul 19, 2011 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions
And another thought on that
The team to beat in the division — SF — features Lincecum, Cain & now Vogelsong as its 1-2-3 starters. All RHP. Loading up with lefties doesn’t bother me.
2011 Rockies -- what the hell?
I think I like David Hood's idea (per twitter)
trade Wheeler in a package for Pence. Problem solved…. or is it….
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Sparingly or traded
Appears Rockies have faith no more in Smith
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Because he hasn't started against lefties?
by rururuland784 on Jul 19, 2011 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions
Too bad that experiment wasn't tried this year
Tracy said it would be in ST. It wasn’t. He gave up on it as soon as the season started, which was a mistake.
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I completly agree with this
It is not that I don’t think Seth is good, its more of my interpretation of what the manager is showing in his playing time.
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Yes
and to add Blackmon was given those opportunities IIRC
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.862 OPS now against lefties and it's rapidly approaching .900
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 19, 2011 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions
That's shot up 200 points in the past six weeks
I give up. Call him up.
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Imagine if he's called up, he continues to hit and he helps the Rockies start winning games because of it
That would be wild.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 19, 2011 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions
and we don't get a decent draft pick next year while still making the playoffs
(then again, I would take it if Wheeler proves to be a legit starter)
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and this is exactly why the discussion has moved to the Pebble Report
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by black_knight101 on Jul 19, 2011 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions
Corey Dickerson
having a heck of a year also
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Not exactly sure what you meant by that but
that is a lazy comparison no matter which way you take it
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What I meant is that Dickerson's season is as likely to be a mirage as it is not.
Like we ranked Salazar relatively highly after he hit just as well in Asheville (with better defense) in his 22 year old season, I don’t think we should completely disregard what Dickerson is doing. I do think it’s not likely to continue to look so bright for him going forward.
Didn't look up Salazar numbers (until now) very impressive low minors numbers
And that comparison completely makes sense.
However it appears Koshansky doesn’t really belong in this conversation (unless you are just comparing age/level)
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Koshansky wasn't a direct comparison, just another example of a McCormick Field inflated offensive stat line
for a player in that age range that didn’t show as much promise afterward. Matt Miller would be another case in point. Dickerson’s season so far is far too reminiscent of these players to make me comfortable with him as a prospect.
What does that say about Parker's numbers, then?
Nothing good, I’m afraid. His are comparable to Dickerson’s.
Maybe as a “first year full timer” for baseball, Parker’s got more upside. Next year should tell the tale on that.
2011 Rockies -- what the hell?
I'm actually a lot more comfortable with Parker than I am with Dickerson
his home/road splits aren’t nearly as scary.
Is it time to keep our eye on Hector Gomez?
In the month of July he’s posting a .302/.348/.558 with only 9k’s.
I think our eyes have been on him for years
when he’s been on the field. Which is seldom. Frequently injured. But he’s due (way overdue actually) for a healthy stretch.
2011 Rockies -- what the hell?
He's a guy that isn't old for his level, but isn't young either
And his Home/Road and L/R splits might suggest weaknesses that will manifest more against better competition, and in a lesser offensive environment
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 19, 2011 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions
So difficult to assess what very good numbers at the low minors can translate into
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Oh definitely, especially since the numbers aren't a baseline of constant ability
Players adjust, grow, become capable of completely different things. Heavy H/R and L/R splits for LH hitters in Asheville are a yellow flag for me at least.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 19, 2011 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions
And last night it was off a lefty
Every flaw we can find in his game seems be improving. Pretty soon, he’s gonna be a major league ready player.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 19, 2011 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions
Nina's on a really nice hot streak with the bat right now. With multiple hits in his last four games and six of his last seven.
He started out terribly but has a .363/.420/.488 line since the CAL All-Star break. It could be interesting to watch where he takes this, he has some raw hit ability that finally could be showing refinement.
Meanwhile, less impressive in the stat line would be Trevor Story’s start at Casper save for one really promising stat, he only has one K so far with four BB’s. Given the concerns about his upper-cut swing, the one place we’d expect to find weakness would be his K rate. That it hasn’t materialized is a very very encouraging sign for his offensive potential.
I really would like to see Nina move up the ladder
Angelys Nina = the “Angel Ninja” if he ever makes it to the bigs.
2011 Rockies -- what the hell?
Slaats is on a nice little streak. Over his last 9 games (counting last night):
53IP / 16ER / 1 HR / 26BB / 46K / .256BAA
Now, the WHIP is still high (1.47) and I don’t think he’ll ever be dominant, but he’s come back nicely after a very slow start to the year.
Maybe not suprisingly, 6 of his last 9 games were pitched on the road. Maybe the home stadium has hurt his numbers this year. He’s sporting a nice .234BAA in the 6 road contests and .293BAA in the 3 home games.
after his electric Casper campaign last year, I expected him to struggle a bit in Asheville
but he’s improved dramatically since his rough start. I’m probably going to bump him up my PuRPs list this fall (one of the few pitchers I can say that about)
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You mean Tri-City
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 19, 2011 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions
whoops
I always forget Tri-City exists, for some reason.
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Question
Who prefers Blackmon’s high contact/low power to Wheeler’s low contact/high power?
In the context of what they’ve both shown to this point.
In other words, which do you see as more likely: Wheeler improving his k rates or Blackmon improving his power numbers?
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I am really feeling inclined
to say I would choose Wheeler’s low contact/high power to Blackmon’s high contact/low power. I still think Blackmon can develop some of that power, but so far I have been truly disappointed in his gap power even (SSS). It just seems we have had a number of examples of defenses adjusting to “slap hitters” and taking away their on-base skill. Dex has me worried about that right now. He was supposed to grow into his power and has not done that at all.
Also, Wheeler is only in his 2nd full season, and I have more faith that he will improve his contact rate, than Blackmon improving his power, a year further along. Blackmon doesn’t seem to have the build to add a lot of power either. Wheeler is about 2 years younger as well.
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Wow, Pebble Report really blowing up.
I guess that’s what happens when the Rox are no good.
Worshiping the holy trinity of Cargo, Tulo, and Ubaldo
It's where Rowbots go to keep their sanity
Or in my case, where you go if you’ve already lost it.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 19, 2011 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions
Prospects = hope.. this season has become = hopeless
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by nodakroxfan on Jul 19, 2011 11:36 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
“Don’t give up, don’t ever give up” – Jim Valvano
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 19, 2011 11:41 AM MDT up reply actions
touche
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by nodakroxfan on Jul 19, 2011 2:23 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Who would you choose to watch Edwar Cabrera or Chad Bettis?
Next week I will get to see Modesto play High Desert near Victorville, but my choices are either Sunday afternoon and watch Edwar or Monday night and watch Chad Bettis.
It’s kind of shows the state of the Rockies that I would rather see Modesto than CR in Dodger stadium, but I’ve seen the Rockies 4 times this year and never seen Modesto.
I'd go for Bettis
mostly cause it seems like he’s more likely to make the Rox at some point
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by black_knight101 on Jul 19, 2011 11:38 AM MDT up reply actions
but yeah, if I could only pick one I'd go Bettis as well
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Bettis looks more consistent, but Cabrera seems more exciting..
when comparing their stats at Modesto I see Bettis has a lower WHIP and H/9 and HR/9. However Cabrera’s SO/BB is standout right now.
I would say Cabrera
simply because there’s far less info out there on him.
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(selfish request, and only if you bring back video)
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My son actually got his autograph in ST..
but I don’t remember watching him pitch. Seems intriguing.
Rutledge update:
There was some talk about our Modesto in this Pebble Report a week and a half ago about how well he had been doing and if his success could continue.
So far, so good. Since that thread, Rutledge has posted a .333AVG, a .381 OBP, and an .868 OPS. SSS but if he keeps hitting, I’m more inclined to believe that he has figured out High A pitching than the BABIP numbers I’m still a little concerned about.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 19, 2011 12:05 PM MDT reply actions
Especially since he skipped Asheville completely
He appears to have adjust quite well. I’m pretty bullish on Rutledge.
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And he's more of a glove prospect anyway
If we end up getting a decent bat out of him too, it’s gravy.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 19, 2011 12:14 PM MDT up reply actions
So we got Tim Wheeler in the sandwich round of the 2009 draft
The pick was compensation for another team signing one of our players.
Without looking, do you remember who the player that left was and allowed us to draft Tim Wheeler?
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 19, 2011 12:12 PM MDT reply actions
Not true.
We got Tim Wheeler in the first round. Rex Brothers was the sandwich pick.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 19, 2011 12:16 PM MDT up reply actions
And both were compensation for Brian Fuentes.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 19, 2011 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Fuentes
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 19, 2011 12:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Jeff Cirillo, the gift that keeps on giving
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Ha....I like this answer
You can trace Tim Wheeler all the way back to the Rockies drafting Jamey Wright that way.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 19, 2011 1:01 PM MDT up reply actions
I added 4 more Rockies ML players to my twitter list..
bringing the total to 42 for anyone who wants to follow these prospects.
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Great list.
I didn’t know some of these players were on twitter. Thanks!
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I have several too...I've been finding some Dust Devil players I didn't even know existed
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 19, 2011 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions
It's been especially nice since David Hernandez closed his twitter account..
or at least it’s a lot cleaner.

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