Sunday Rockpile: Cole Garner finally to get his call... or not.
by Rox Girl on Jul 3, 2011 9:18 AM MDT
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PrintUPDATE: Turns out it's Eric Stults that's replacing Reynolds on the roster. Cole Garner remains in Colorado Springs.
After last night's five innings and a W, Greg Reynolds was sent back to Colorado Springs with a pat on the back for the rest he gave other parts of the Rockies rotation. In his place, outfielder Cole Garner is expected to be called up for his first big league cup of coffee. Garner, a seven year minor league veteran in the Rockies system, went to high school with Ian Stewart. The Rockies have needed a right handed bench bat capable of causing some damage besides Ryan Spilborghs, and Garner looks to be the best internal option for this role.
I usually don't link to Mark Kiszla's stuff, but I was piqued by the headline that he might actually be defending Rockies ownership for once. Well, not quite, he was just using an anti-Monfort letter to take a shot at Dan O'Dowd, which leaves me linking his piece anyway, because it's an interesting question of who actually should be held accountable for the Rockies disappointing season to date. First of all, I like to let the season play out. I feel that front offices should be measured after a year, not during as there's still a lot of baseball left. That said, 2010 was clearly a disappointment as well, and the team in 2011 is heading the same direction, so there's enough of a sample in a season and a half to say that yes, this team's mediocre, and yes, O'Dowd deserves some blame for that. Should the team not turn around, O'Dowd's consistent inability to fix the second base situation will be a big part of it.
Which is why so much is riding on the Mark Ellis trade, or a subsequent move if Ellis does not work out, and it's not the same low risk gamble that acquiring Jose Lopez was before the season started precisely because the Jose Lopez move proved so spectacularly disastrous.
The second point I'd like to bring up from the Kiszla is this idea that a sports franchise ownership making money is a terrible thing has to stop. No. An ownership taking team money, as in Los Angeles, is a terrible thing, but as long as a good portion of profit gets reinvested in the franchise or related activities (buying the Casper Ghosts, for instance,) I have no problems with an ownership having a profit motive and keeping a small portion for themselves. This is because the biggest return on investment for them would be to have a perpetual winning franchise, they could go the easy profit sharing route and strip the club, but since they're not doing this, I'm still fine with the direction that the Monforts are going.
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by CentralCaliRox on Jul 3, 2011 9:35 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
or Eric, as it were.
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Slightly OT, and maybe this is an awful reaction
to the Jon Rauch tantrum. But if it draws attention to how much of a woefully incompetent umpire Alphonso Marquez really is, Rauch has done everyone a big favor. The best ballplayers in the world should not have their performance resting on a guy who is just absolutely terrible at his job. He’s the equivalent of a head groundskeeper whose infield is overgrown with weeds and has a prarie dog town brewing in centerfield.
There's plenty of blame to go around, from FO to coaches to players, but...
The idea that O’Dowd is the problem, after he assembled the pieces to put the Rox in a position to be contenders, doesn’t carry a lot of weight with me. Yes, 2nd Base has been an ongoing issue, and the lack of flexibility in an NL roster with a DH/PH occupying the 25th spot has created challenges at times, but overall it’s a very talented roster. The primary issues this year, imo, have been the regression of Stewart and Fowler, and the JDLR injury. If Stewart and Fowler even maintain their level of play from 2010, I don’t think we’re having the same conversation. Lopez and Paulino are obvious scapegoats, but it’s been said before- they were low-risk, high-reward acquisitions that didn’t pan out. The Rox moved on, and those are not the type of players that kill your playoff hopes for the season.
And what about 2010?
Which was my point above, that the tying thread between the one and a half disappointing seasons is the disappointment at second base. Maybe part of the issue here is that people think that the only way one can hold a sports person accountable is by termination of their employment, which I’m absolutely not advocating for O’Dowd, but I do think that he needs to be accountable for the ongoing issue at 2B, and I think he’s taken a step to that accountability by undoing the Lopez wrong and acquiring Ellis.
It's hard for me to blame O'Dowd..
when I look at the minor league stats of Chris Nelson, EYJ, Hector Gomez and think all of those guys would fail. We could question the stop-gaps he has tried to fill the position with; Mora, Lopez, etc but there’s not much to argue against. Are you saying he should have tried harder for an Uggla or Freddy Sanchez? My only argument against him was he should have tried harder to resign Kaz Matsui after 2007, but he didn’t exactly light the world on fire.
The stopgaps have been the issue
Not much of a chance given to any of those guys, besides EYJ. Nelson has 100 pa’s in the bigs. Gomez has zero.
I can’t blame him for not overspending on a big FA.
Hector has a .242 OBP in Tulsa this year.
Him and Jose Lopez have conspired to make my bet with RG look ludicrous.
He's also injured once again.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 3, 2011 10:37 AM MDT up reply actions
Terrific..
he’s now on pace to make the majors in 2022. His first AB will probably be against the Buffalo Falls.
More importantly
his trade value is basically zero.
it never was much higher than that
Garner’s the type of project prospect that only becomes valuable once you’ve successfully developed them, at which point you probably don’t want to make the trade anyway.
I think there's plenty of responsibility to go around.
The players involved bear plenty, but the buck has to stop up top. Again, it’s not calling for a change in leadership or anything, because as you point out, it’s not gross incompetence or for lack of trying, it’s just failed execution.
I think the Sky Sox lack of Humidor makes the AAA affiliate irrelevant..
because our best hitters and pitchers are now skipping it. Then low-performers are being sent there only to have their problems compounded by overconfidence or something. But there also appears to be a disconnect between what the hitters do in the Springs and what they do in Denver. Not sure if it’s coaching or something else.
It's not just C. Springs, it's the entire PCL
I don’t think you can blame that on coaching. There’s just a tremendous gap in the quality of pitching between AAA and the MLB right now.
Well the PCL is just disadvantaged..
when you consider:
Colorado Springs 6035’
Albuqurque 5312’
Las Vegas 110° causes shrunken balls
No humidor at any of these places, I wouldn’t risk a young pitcher in this league either.
Don't forget Reno, 4505'
or Tucson, 2359’ and the same temp/humidity as Vegas. Fresno’s not exactly a pitcher’s paradise, either.
Good point..
the PCL should be renamed, “The League where AAAA hitters go to improve their ML stats.”
There is a problem in the system somewhere.
For a team that is supposed to be building from the farm system, the fact that only half of the position starters are from the system, and one is from a time that predates the current system, is a concern. The recent experts at this model, the Rays, have 3/4 of their starters from their system, and they’ve stockpiled arms a well.
This wouldn’t be a big deal if we had a different model, but we’re being told that this is what they are doing.
by DumbAndNerdy on Jul 3, 2011 10:40 AM MDT up reply actions
This is an extremely misleading post,
The results of the Matt Holliday trade were thanks to the production of the system (even though this also predates O’Dowd) so Carlos Gonzalez should basically be considered a “system” product in this respect, we aren’t going to deny that talent a spot just because it wasn’t homegrown, which leaves six of eight (Iannetta, Helton, Tulo, and the current OF) that were the direct or indirect result of Rockies draft picks.
The rotation is 4/5ths homegrown, the other one was acquired via trade of a system product. Like the Rays, the Rockies are still producing their players internally, they just haven’t been as good at it.
It can't be that misleading. You verified my point in your last statement.
the Rockies are still producing their players internally, they just haven’t been as good at it.
I’m not suggesting that the Rockies aren’t developing their talent internally. I’m suggesting that the talent they are developing hasn’t been inconsistent.
Gonzalez is not a system product because he was never really in the system. Less than 10% of his MiLB PAs were with the Rockies system. He was not developed here.
The lack of quality development has led them to having to settle for stopgaps at 3B, 2B, CF. There isn’t developed talent in the system to take these spots, nor is there enough depth to trade a glut of talent in one area for the talent that we need. This is what the Rays do. This is how this model works. If we are following the Rays model, we need to get better at development.
This was the point. I’m not sure how it was misleading. I’m not suggesting that everyone has to be developed here, but I think having more quality players from the system would speak to a stronger organization. This is a truism, but it deserves to be said in the context of what might be the weaknesses that have led to some of the disappointment.
by DumbAndNerdy on Jul 3, 2011 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions
But the Rockies did develop Matt Holliday
without his development into a star, they can’t make the trade for CarGo and Street (and, um, Greg Smith…). Not considering CarGo (or Street) when looking at what the system has produced completely ignores the value Holliday’s development is still bringing to the organization.
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by Junction Rox on Jul 3, 2011 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
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And, frankly, it’s still an awesome trade even if we do the prudent thing and forget that Greg Smith ever existed. :)
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by Paleface Destro on Jul 3, 2011 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions
Who's Greg Smith?
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by Junction Rox on Jul 3, 2011 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions
I was thinking more....
…Muzia is going to have a PTSD
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better than an STD...
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by Junction Rox on Jul 3, 2011 11:35 AM MDT up reply actions
Except that you probably had a lot more fun getting to one than the other
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by Paleface Destro on Jul 3, 2011 11:35 AM MDT up reply actions
Well, it's a really twisty mountain road to the therapist's!
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by Junction Rox on Jul 3, 2011 11:40 AM MDT up reply actions
Put a picture of Tulo on a dartboard on which he can take out his frustrations. :)
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by Paleface Destro on Jul 3, 2011 11:34 AM MDT up reply actions
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I think it's misleading because you were implying that the Rockies are not getting their production from the system.
Why mention 3/4’s of the team at all if you weren’t suggesting this? The Rockies are getting just as much in quantity, it’s just not as much in quality.
I also think it’s misleading because you’re implying that it’s the same model, it’s not.
The Rays model is to develop a player like Matt Holliday, hold on to him until he reaches FA, let him walk and collect two draft picks in compensation and then hopefully one of those two draft picks four years down the road is an MLB product that they can repeat the process with. The Rockies traded Holliday before he reached FA, acquired three players, only one of which had developed fully, and hoped one of the other two might blossom (really hoped that Gonzalez would.) Your suggestion is that the Rays model is superior, and is more internally reliant, which I think is incorrect on both accounts. It’s just their plan has been executed better overall, and I’m going to be frank in saying that they’ve gotten very lucky too in the way that a couple of their players have panned out. Not saying that they don’t have some skill in talent acquisition, but I think get too much credit for developments with players that are likely beyond their influence. When this luck starts to diminish, it should come as no surprise that they drop in the standings again barring radical realignment.
Carlos Gonzalez is not a stopgap in center field. He was acquired as a direct result of system development and he was far from a finished product when he came here. The Rockies actually probably have done as much to develop him as either of his prior two organizations. Both the Rockies and Rays models need products like Holliday to develop to get players like Gonzalez, when players acquired in the Matt Garza trade start playing for the Rays, you aren’t going to hold that against them. You were holding Cargo against the Rockies in your initial post. The Rockies also need players like Tulowitzki or Helton to sign long term for leadership/stability purposes, whereas the Rays prefer the perpetual talent flip to keep costs down. You were also holding keeping Helton against the Rockies current FO. This is bullocks.
Where Colorado has failed in their model the last two seasons has been quality position player development. We agree there, but they do have a quality CF prospect very close in Wheeler, and they also have Blackmon, who you’ve given up way too early on. Desmond Jennings didn’t exactly light things on fire in his MLB debut either, you might recall. 3B also isn’t as dire as you’re making it out to be. Had Ian Stewart panned out as a draft pick as Longoria did (part of Tampa’s luck) we wouldn’t be having this discussion, but even without that, there’s hope with Arenado and a Wigginton/Emaus combo might provide enough coverage there for the next season or two.
2B is more of an issue to me, and this is why I made the original Rockpile post. I have high hopes for Thomas Field, but not starter level high hopes. There’s a clear vacuum there at the position and it’s been a looming issue that the FO has kept on putting off in the hopes that something finally clicks with the usual suspects (Nelson, Gomez, Young.) Again, I’ve watched too many prospects develop, or fail to, for too long on many teams to not believe that bad luck of the draw has much to do with this, but I think failing to aggressively pursue stronger alternatives earlier has led to a situation where the stakes are much higher on this Ellis trade than they should be.
by Rox Girl on Jul 3, 2011 11:58 AM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
technically, Ellis is a result of the farm
Since Billings was drafted and developed much better than most in his draft area.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 3, 2011 1:08 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree,
I thought about adding that to the discussion also since I brought up a similar situation with Hammel. My main point is that the Rockies are getting almost entirely all of their production in 2011 from players either signed into the system, or direct trades of players signed into the system. The only FA’s not previously with the club (which is my definition of external production) are Giambi, Wigginton and now Stults as far as I can tell. Everybody else was either a draft pick/international FA or traded into the system for a draft pick/international FA.
Admittedly, 2nd Base has been a sore spot
The organization hung onto Barmes too long and missed an opportunity at several buy-low 2nd Basemen the last few years. That loyalty that the franchise is built on has also come back to bite them at times, too. I’m not saying O’Dowd’s hit on every move, but by and large, I believe the lack of performance from a couple of players they were counting on has made a bigger impact than anything O’Dowd did/didn’t do to address 2nd Base.
Yes.
Coming into the year, 2b was supposed to be the only hole in lineup. (As long as Todd was healthy.) Ian and Dex struggled. Tulo and Cargo had bad Mays. Those are the bigger causes of what has happend this year than DOD not being able to fix a black hole.
I somewhat agree, but those wouldn't be as big of issues had O'Dowd found a better fix for that black hole.
And I say this as somebody who was fully on board with the Lopez trade. It just didn’t work, and I think that falls at O’Dowd’s desk. All I’m saying is that everybody has to be accountable for their part, and this particular part is O’Dowd’s. And so far, he’s done well in fixing that. Knock on wood.
I guess we're coming from different sides of the same argument...
While it’s hard to argue that the team would have a better record if we’d seen better production at 2nd, I don’t think anyone would care about the performance at 2nd if Stewart and Fowler hadn’t fallen flat on their faces. The struggles in May weren’t the results of one black hole on the roster, it was the result of having three. The problems at 2nd are largely on O’Dowd, but the rest falls squarely on the players involved.
I think
people would care more about the performance at 2B if it wasn’t for the terrible play from those two. This is because we were expecting to have solid production from them and then 2B would be the focus but since they haven’t been performing the attention has shifted to 3B and CF. Now that Carlos and Wigginton have been playing really well the attention is back to focusing on 2B.
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I still think that the injuries killed this team last season
Only two members of our rotation pitched more than 137 innings; and one of those, (Jason Hammel) still spent time on the DL and looked to be pitching hurt/with a dead arm down the stretch. Throw in more DL stints from Tulo, Helton, Stewart, and Street and you’ve got quite a few wins taken away. O’Dowd was also unlucky last season that both Smith and Iannetta performed WELL BELOW their career lines.
All of these issues meant that only one player (Cargo), appeared in more than 133 games. When you consider that the Rockies still finished over .500 and were with a half game of first with two weeks to go, I have a hard time placing this on O’Dowd’s shoulders. The talent is there – They just need to play up to it.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 3, 2011 12:33 PM MDT up reply actions
Here, let me fix that one line for you..
The Rockies have needed a right handed bench bat capable of causing some damagebesidesbecause Ryan Spilborghs isn’t getting the job done.
The Rockies have purchased and called up Eric Stults.
Cole Garner is still serving suspension for the Sky Sox.
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He has to have the worst luck in the system..
If it weren’t for the suspension and his strange ailment he contracted while in the Dominican, Cole would be in the big leagues.
The Rockies will have needed to make a 40-Man move to make room for Stults.
Watch Garner get designated for assignment. lol
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 3, 2011 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions
Ouch!!
Garner could end up on the street. Unfortunately for Cole, he’s been injury prone this year, so that’s gone against him as well.
I would imagine a guy like Ryan Rohlinger would get dropped first?
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by black_knight101 on Jul 3, 2011 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions
Rohlinger, Roenicke and Riordan are the most likely to be cut for this move.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 3, 2011 10:28 AM MDT up reply actions
Cut? More likely to be Rohlled.
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by Junction Rox on Jul 3, 2011 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions
and just think...He was selected to go the ASG!
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I've been in the wilderness (literally) for a week. Why was Garner suspended?
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He got into a tussle with Salt Lake Bees catcher Kevin Richardson, who was also suspended for the incident.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 3, 2011 10:24 AM MDT up reply actions
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Jul 3, 2011 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions
Uh
Reyes just topped Tulo on the ballot.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Reyes might be out for the season.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
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Yeah, I feel bad for him
I’m a fan of Reyes, he was very deserving. He brings an element to the game that you can’t really see from many players.
…I’d just rather see my boyyyy starting in ’Zona this year :)
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 3, 2011 10:14 AM MDT up reply actions
out for the season? What happened? Our am I missing something here?
If its up to the manager, then Bochy isn’t going to pick him. He will go with Tejada since it seems that he is picking his own guys.
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hamstring injury
Bochy would not be looked on well if he chose Tejada over Tulo
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by black_knight101 on Jul 3, 2011 10:16 AM MDT up reply actions
anyway if there's an injury it goes by the fan vote anyway
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by black_knight101 on Jul 3, 2011 10:17 AM MDT up reply actions
Yet more leg inuries for Reyes
This is why anyone spending nine figures for him stands a strong chance of disappointment, a la Beltran. Great talent, but if you’re only going to be on the field for four years of a seven year deal, that’s just bad business.
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hamstring injury that could potentially be bad
poor guy, he’s had tough luck with injury.
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 3, 2011 10:17 AM MDT up reply actions
Reyes deserved it more than Tulo.
Yeah, he’s hurt, but to this point he was having a much better season. No issue with it at all.
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by Paleface Destro on Jul 3, 2011 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions
agreed
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 3, 2011 11:39 AM MDT up reply actions
Imagine this...Where is CDI?
The Braves’ Brian McCann finally got his chance, using yet another solid first half to make his seventh consecutive All-Star team and first ever start behind the plate.
Isn’t CDI better?
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not than McCann
McCann is a very good catcher
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by black_knight101 on Jul 3, 2011 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions
McCann has pretty much single handedly carried the Braves offensively
To me, he’s an MVP candidate
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 3, 2011 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions
No.
But he has a strong argument to be the back up. However, saber-stats still aren’t mainstream enough to get a .220 hitter in.
OBP is though
that’s his hope, probably
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by black_knight101 on Jul 3, 2011 10:25 AM MDT up reply actions
Bochy would probably vote Posey over CDI even with the current circumstances
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It should be
but it’s not. It still seems to be treated like a secondary stat.
Why is there going to be a DH in the ASG at a NL park this year?
Giambi should be voted in!!!!!
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Wait, what?
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Every ASG from now on will have the DH
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by Paleface Destro on Jul 3, 2011 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions
is this to give the AL an advantage?
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Wouldn't doubt it...
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by Paleface Destro on Jul 3, 2011 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions
I just threw up in my mouth a little
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by Paleface Destro on Jul 3, 2011 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions
I doubt that it will really make that much difference
it’s not as if pitchers generally got to hit anyway. The big difference here is that the replacement will be a “DH”, not a “PH”, and can be anywhere in the order.
Plus, it could help save pitchers in a longer game if you don’t have to worry about pinch hitting for them…
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by Junction Rox on Jul 3, 2011 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions
Four Giants pitchers headed to the All Star game, including Ryan Vogelsong.
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I'm shocked. Shocked
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I hope they collectively throw a lot of pitches.
And that they lose effectiveness after the All-Star Break.
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Heh. Yep.
(Seriously, though, I don’t mind letting Street get rest while the Giants pitchers work.)
"Are they called the Rockies because they rock?" - 7 y.o.
I really don't see it as 'Negative' if Rockies pitchers aren't chosen..
I’m pretty sure Ubaldo could’ve used the rest last year.
I hope Uggla makes three errors in the 15th, thus causing Vogelsong to have to throw way too many pitches
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Works for me
Let them tire themselves out. Especially Vogelsong…let the best AL bats feast on him and bring him back to Earth.
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by Paleface Destro on Jul 3, 2011 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions
hahaha
so many Giants on this roster…no surprise there…
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by black_knight101 on Jul 3, 2011 10:31 AM MDT reply actions
Their lineup sucks and eff the Gints
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by Mondogarage on Jul 3, 2011 11:29 AM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
Does anybody else think that Bocky is playing MAJOR favortism here? I bet Street isn't even on that list.
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He already said he would try to get as many of his guys as he could
Charlie Manuel did the same thing last year.
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Yeah, but Cholly has the talent on his team to actually turn it into a win.
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by Paleface Destro on Jul 3, 2011 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions
All Star Voting is the stupidest thing.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Jul 3, 2011 10:34 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
IAWTC 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000%
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*votes for Jeter*
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Jul 3, 2011 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions
How bout Asdrubal Cabrera? He seemed pretty good. Or how bout a player that can actually play in the game?
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I think there is a pretty good one in Arlington Texas
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It's complete trash that Derek Jeter, who isn't even the best SS on his own team right now, can be the starter in the ASG
NO, we are NOT going to fire Jim Tracy midseason!!!!!
The Rockies couldn't be any more offensive or less offensive all at the same time.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 3, 2011 12:43 PM MDT up reply actions
Same with GG voting.
Coaches and managers just don’t know what they are doing.
Except for blatant homerism by east coast teams, the fans do a better job than they do.
YAY TULO!
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Jul 3, 2011 10:34 AM MDT reply actions
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by black_knight101 on Jul 3, 2011 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions
Yay Tulo! He was voted in by the players, which I'm sure means a lot to him. (not being sarcastic)
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Gaby Sanchez over Helton???
F. U. Bochy
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Jul 3, 2011 10:35 AM MDT reply actions
I'm telling you I believe Bochy would not have even selected Tulo.
Bochy hates the Rockies without a doubt. I believe it.
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didi he pick Street?
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by black_knight101 on Jul 3, 2011 10:37 AM MDT up reply actions
the leader in saves in the NL and gets the shaft.
I hope we destroy that team the rest of the year.
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I'm sure Bochy believes
that Street only has any saves because he’s pitching with extra humidored balls or something…
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by Junction Rox on Jul 3, 2011 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions
he didnt pick any of his own elite relievers, and picked venters, the best reliever in baseball
i’m okay with the NL relief corps this year
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
maybe firing tracy isn't the answer, but something's just not clicking out there
If they discussed the relievers I missed it
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They discussed all of the pitchers at the same time.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 3, 2011 10:39 AM MDT up reply actions
Oh I was multitasking and missed it. Thanks
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He didn't pick any Rockies.
THe only player who made the roster is Tulowitzki, who was selected by the players.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 3, 2011 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions
do you think we'll have a chance at the "last two in" like we did with CarGo last year?
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by black_knight101 on Jul 3, 2011 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions
doubt it
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I doubt it
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Sanchez was the only pick from the Fish
and they have to get somebody in. I’ll allow it.
I’m going to have a much bigger problem when Shane f’ing Victorino wins the last chance vote over Todd…
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by Junction Rox on Jul 3, 2011 12:08 PM MDT up reply actions
And you know it's gonna happen, because it's Philly
natural fact.
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Aren't there a lot of places who don't like the Phils
If it comes down to Shane vs Todd, I think we could rally some of those fans to vote for Todd just to spite the Phillies.
Doesn't matter if there's a lot of places
The Philadelphia metro area alone will be enough.
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Bochy equals
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by Roxman4ever on Jul 3, 2011 10:36 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
minus the ump of course
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The ump is an improvement in this case, honestly
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by Paleface Destro on Jul 3, 2011 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions
I like that sentiment
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he apparently even said that he would try to get his own players in
trying to BS way through explaining that Vogelsong deserves to be an all-star
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by black_knight101 on Jul 3, 2011 10:37 AM MDT up reply actions
Yep I mentioned that above.
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Molina!
Seriously. That’s like GG voting. They just go with the guy that made it last year. CDI and MM both deserve that spot more than he does.
Or Lucroy
I think there’s a case for picking him before Molina. Good young player.
by Northsider1964 on Jul 3, 2011 10:40 AM MDT up reply actions
Iannetta's OPS is almost 100 POINTS more than Yadi's
It is outright stupidity.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Jul 3, 2011 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions
And he hits for teh averages.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jul 3, 2011 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions
Do you mean McCutchen?
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bochy
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by black_knight101 on Jul 3, 2011 10:40 AM MDT up reply actions
Ok. So Bochy says
he wanted as many of his own guys in. He said he’s going to try to win but some guys won’t get in the game most likely. So then, on one hand he wants to win the game and on the other hand he won’t play everyone.
/smh
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I was just thinking about that
he loaded up the pitching staff with his own guys. But he’s not going to want to burn up all his pitchers in the all-star game. Advantage: AL.
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by Junction Rox on Jul 3, 2011 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions
Advantage....NL WEST....Let him burn up his pitchers..
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But he won't...
The NL all-star team is probably going into this game with half a pitching staff.
I’m hoping the game goes 25 innings….
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by Junction Rox on Jul 3, 2011 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions
ALL PLAYERS SHOULD BE PICKED BY PLAYERS!! Not some manager wanting his own players that are going to make them lose.
And the fan voting should be stopped
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IAWTC
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Jul 3, 2011 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions
It's become one of the perks for a WS win.
To put your own guys in. I agree it should be changed.
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Some players are going to have to be picked by the manager (or league or whoever).
Because of the rule that every team needs a representative.
Sounds good to me
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What? Ichiro isn't an AllStar???
That’s unbelievable.
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Seattle don't like him anymore???? SIGN HIM NOW TO THIS TEAM! I would take Ichiro...Anyone else?
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I'm just surprised he was listed at least as a bench player.
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It's absolutely the right call
Ichiro has been anything but good this year
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 3, 2011 12:45 PM MDT up reply actions
much to the lament of one of my fantasy teams
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
maybe firing tracy isn't the answer, but something's just not clicking out there
I am voting until I'm not allowed
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he would probably still get shafted
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everyone go here
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/all_star/y2011/fv/ballot.jsp?tcid=EngRD-asgballot-FV-2011
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by black_knight101 on Jul 3, 2011 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions
and vote for Todd Helton.....
…..and Alex Gordon.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Jul 3, 2011 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions
it doesn't seem like the usual "25 vote limit" is on right now.
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by black_knight101 on Jul 3, 2011 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions
I notice that also..Where is Cargo?
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He's not one of the finalists I guess
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He didn't deserve it
He’s been hot, but he hasn’t had that great of a season.
lineup
#Rockies lineup for 7/3 vs. KC: Gonzalez8, Ellis4, Helton3, Tulowitzki6, Smith7, Wigginton5, Blackmon7, Pagnozzi2, Hammel1
Pagnozzi gets the start in the day game following the night game, everything else business as usual
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by black_knight101 on Jul 3, 2011 11:06 AM MDT reply actions
No Jonny
Spilly, Giambi, Spilly? Why not stultz? Isn’t it supposed to be the entire B lineup today?
he isn't the only one.
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And eff Bochy
I’ll take the three day rest for all of our guys. Let’s take this damned division from that jerk-hole.
You linked Kizla...
Take a lap.
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Take five laps.
I’m taking two just for reading that link. That first letter…the worst kind of strawman.
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Same here
I admit I was sucked in by the headline. Stupid stupid stupid stupid me.
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by Paleface Destro on Jul 3, 2011 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions
If anyone is interested the Prospect Classic is on MLB Network
5th inning
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Theirs
1. Chris Getz (L) 2B
2. Melky Cabrera (S) CF
3. Alex Gordon (L) LF
4. Jeff Francoeur® RF
5. Eric Hosmer (L) 1B
6. Matt Treanor® C
7. Mike Moustakas (L) 3B
8. Alcides Escobar® SS
9. Luke Hochevar® P
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Man, wish I hadn't watched NASCAR till 2am after the game...
Thought about heading back to Coors, but I’m just too couchlazy. There’s always game threads!
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Bochy sucks, we're gonna lose
But on the other hand………KC’s all star…………………..AARON CROW?!? That’s just hysterical.
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true, but when was the last time KC had a legitimate all-star?
At least this year, the Pirates had Hanrahan
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 3, 2011 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions
Dan Quisenbery? Bret Saberhagan? Spelling may be wrong.
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Actually, I think Mike Sweeney had a couple monster first halves in the early 00's
that would have been legit AS worthy.
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KEN HARVEY
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 3, 2011 12:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Yuniesky Betancourt
/lol
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Greinke
Soria before this year. They’ve had some good players there, but no one notices because they play in KC.
Duh, forgot Greinke
He was balls out awesome the first half of….2009?
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oh yeah, Greinke, duh
Joakim Soria is awesome; Really nice guy too
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 3, 2011 12:11 PM MDT up reply actions
and Mark Redman
What a beast
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 3, 2011 12:14 PM MDT up reply actions
See my rant about MacCutcheon
He really deserved it last year.
McCutchen?
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 3, 2011 12:11 PM MDT up reply actions
Wonder what Ron Washington was smoking for that one
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by Paleface Destro on Jul 3, 2011 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions
crack?
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 3, 2011 12:12 PM MDT up reply actions
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Shoulder-to-Shoulder for life!
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by Hollidayrain on Jul 3, 2011 12:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Well, he did hire Rick James as his bench coach
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No
The NL will still win, because Botchy made sure that there’s enough Giants on that team so that the luck will carry over. And as the Giants are apparantly trying to prove, it’s better to be lucky than good.
NO, we are NOT going to fire Jim Tracy midseason!!!!!
The Rockies couldn't be any more offensive or less offensive all at the same time.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 3, 2011 12:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Hell, I could have told anyone that
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by Paleface Destro on Jul 3, 2011 3:06 PM MDT up reply actions
It's the general rule.
If you have a bad team, take their best reliever. It’s one of the most under-looked causes of all star snubs.
Meet Joel Hanrahan
only all-star pitcher in the NL Central….
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Jul 3, 2011 12:22 PM MDT up reply actions
Meet Joel Hanrahan, hasn't blown a save all year
You wanna laugh at AS relievers, Hanrahan this year has been >>> Brian Wilson.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
Which is really my way of saying...
Hanrahan deserved it in any circumstance. McCutchen got jobbed, because both just flat out deserved it.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
I'll agree he deserved it
although I would like to see McCutchen make it, just because I have an irrational love for the guy.
I was actually laughing more at the NL Central only having 1 all-star pitcher. Probably picked a bad place to post that little factoid, though….
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Jul 3, 2011 12:33 PM MDT up reply actions
An article on ESPN picked Mc as the top snub
with Beltran being the obvious guy who shouldn’t be there.
OT: Not the best way to prove your point
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
Pleasant surprised to see Todd out there today
I was pretty sure this would be a Giambi start, which I would have been okay with.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
And yet, if you credit him with actually having only four picks of his own.
Bochy used three of his four “at-large” picks on his own pitchers: Matt Cain, Tim Lincecum and Ryan Vogelsong. His other pick was outfielder Carlos Beltran of the Mets.
Bochy’s even further on the hook.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
I've thought for several years that the player voting was too resrictive.
I didn’t even realize they picked that many. Wouldn’t it be best if they picked two postion players and two pitchers, or something along those lines? After that you take the best player on every team who doesn’t have someone yet. Then you let the managers/league fill out the roster. Problem solved.
weird that ian kennedy is on the NL final vote ballot
pitchers dont normally make an appearance there…not that it matters, because todd is getting the votes.
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
maybe firing tracy isn't the answer, but something's just not clicking out there
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