Saturday Rockpile: The Wheeler in the Sky Keeps on Turning, CarGo Still Sore, More
by Bryan Kilpatrick on Jul 9, 2011 9:40 AM MDT
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Moss: Center fielder Wheeler on fast track - The Denver Post
Irv Moss more or less makes a case for Tim Wheeler to be considered as an option for a call-up this season. There have been a couple of fairly spirited arguments in recent Rockpiles about whether or not the Rockies should look at him as a viable replacement for a guy like Carlos Gonzalez if he were to be out an extended period of time, or whether or not it should have been him instead of Cole Garner that replaced Charlie Blackmon.
Moss covers the positives in his piece - 22 home runs, 15 stolen bases, and a batting average north of .300. On top of that, he gets on-base at a .399 clip and is slugging .600. However, Wheeler does have a couple of things working against him. Despite having decent L/R splits (1.080 vs. righties, but still a very respectable .842 vs. lefties), his walk and strikeout rates are much worse against southpaws. The Rockies don't need more platoon-type players on the big league roster right now. They also don't need more guys who strikeout at a Reynoldsian pace - something any player jumping from AA to the big leagues would have trouble with, let alone one who already displays a penchant for whiffing.
Simply put, nobody should be clamoring for Wheeler to get any sort of promotion at this point. Even just moving him up to Triple-A doesn't make any sense, as the Rox really need to see what they have in this guy, and putting him in psycho hitting environments against awful pitching won't help them accomplish that. For right now, Tulsa is the perfect place for Wheeler to continuing honing his skills. If he blows the lid off of the league and finishes with 40 homers, 30 steals, and an 1.000+ OPS, that bodes even better for Wheeler and the organization. There's no "wasted opportunity" here.
Twitter / @TroyRenck
In a maybe somewhat-related story, it sounds like CarGo might not be able to start tonight. Renck tweeted it (linked above), and Thomas Harding backed that sentiment in an MLB.com piece. Rough deal for the Rockies, as Troy Tulowitzki is returning to the lineup tonight. It looked like Gonzalez might have aggravated his wrist injury diving for a catch that he did not end up making last night. I don't know if that's the exact cause of the soreness that he experienced, but it probably has something to do with it. The All-Star break seems to be coming at a great time for CarGo.
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So wait...does this mean you're not doing Sunday game wraps any more?
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by Paleface Destro on Jul 9, 2011 12:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Well, I'm always willing to give them away to another staff member, but no, I'll still be doing them.
The good news is that I’ll be attending several games this month, and they’re undefeated in 2011 when I attend.
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start going to their road games bro
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Ooh...that works, too!
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by Paleface Destro on Jul 9, 2011 2:38 PM MDT up reply actions
I feel it!
Here we come.
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by CentralCaliRox on Jul 9, 2011 12:19 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Second-half LoDo Magic!
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by Paleface Destro on Jul 9, 2011 12:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Wooooooo!
I’m ready!
(but I’m gonna wait til we win this series to get too excited…)
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by prettyinpurple on Jul 9, 2011 12:52 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I really do expect a sweep, even with CarGo out.
Jimenez and Chacin should shut down the Nats
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by CentralCaliRox on Jul 9, 2011 12:54 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
even a sweep here shouldn't excite you too much
Anyone can win three straight games and they have to far to go. They need a lot more than a series win against that nats to get me optomistic
by AbsenteeRoxFAn on Jul 9, 2011 3:10 PM MDT up reply actions
If they sweep and the Mets take 2/3
The Rox go into the break 6.5 GB.
That’s not TOO bad really.
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by CentralCaliRox on Jul 9, 2011 3:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Sweeping a team
that is doing well at home while we are terrible on the road would get me a little excited.
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If the comeback has begun...
We would have to trace it back to Wiggy hitting Lannan in the face. That may be a rather inauspicious turning point to the season!
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I said as much in yesterday's Rockpile
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Wiggy really does have the bat of doom, doesn't he? (poor Lannan)
At least sometimes it works for us instead of against us :)
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Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some more groundballs. Its more democratic. - Crash Davis
If CarGo has any soreness at all, shut him down
With Jiminez and Chacin on the mound the next two games, you have to believe the Rox will be in the game with or without CarGo. With a five-day break, hopefully he’d then be at 100% for the second half.
by mattrob on Jul 9, 2011 12:38 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Especially with Tulo back...
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by Paleface Destro on Jul 9, 2011 12:40 PM MDT up reply actions
Totally agreed.
He shouldn’t have played yesterday either.
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Jeter got his 3000...on a HR
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=16783041&tcid=fb_NYY_16783041&c_id=nyy
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MLB network
(a few days ago) estimated the value of the ball (if it ended up in the stands, which now we see it did) at between $300-400k
WHY CANT YOU DO THAT DEXTER FOWLER??!?!
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So Jeter went 5 for 5 today.
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Given the rest of his 2011 has been teh suck....
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
That's how Biggio did it
June 28, 2007 against an unnamed team (no home run though)
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That game was so awful
Rockies up 4-1 in the 8th and blow that lead, then Tulo hits a HR to put the Rockies up 5-4 in the top of the 11th before Fuentes gives up a walk-off grand salm.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jul 10, 2011 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions
I remembered the date,
the team it came against and the final outcome of the game. I didn’t want to remember how horrid that road trip actually was.
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without CarGo, our leadoff man is....
Spilborghs 8
Ellis 4
Helton 3
Tulowitzki 6
Smith 9
Wigginton 7
Stewart 5
Iannetta 2
Jimenez 1
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Eek
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by prettyinpurple on Jul 9, 2011 3:09 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
unfortunately there's probably not a better choice than Spilly
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by black_knight101 on Jul 9, 2011 3:16 PM MDT up reply actions
rather have him there than smith at least
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
maybe firing tracy isn't the answer, but something's just not clicking out there
shouldn't that read 'cook 1,' not jimenez?
i thought we didnt give ubaldo the joke lineups
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
maybe firing tracy isn't the answer, but something's just not clicking out there
Its time for the Wiggington Outfield Experience
How do you get your kids to behave? Threaten not to take them to a Rockies game. They straighten up REAL QUICK.
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
50 cents please
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"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
remind me again why we all keep acting like
it’s a shocker that we’re sub .500?
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
apparently some people still have faith
poor bastards
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
maybe firing tracy isn't the answer, but something's just not clicking out there
I still have faith but I am not a poor bastard. LOL. Not rich either.
How do you get your kids to behave? Threaten not to take them to a Rockies game. They straighten up REAL QUICK.
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
It's only July 9th. The sun don't set on the season until 162 games
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
derek jeter goes 5-5, #3000 is a game-tying home run, and drives in the eventual winning run in the 8th against tampa
what a fairybook day for one of the game’s greats
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
maybe firing tracy isn't the answer, but something's just not clicking out there
the only downside to his day
was that it takes some of the glory away from Wade Boggs having been the only person to homer for 3,000. But yea, the guy has had the best-case-scenario for a career.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
It looks like were having a great ballgame in LA. The Dodgers are getting no hit and the Padres only have 1 hit in the bottom of the 6th inning.
Its either good defense or good pitching.
How do you get your kids to behave? Threaten not to take them to a Rockies game. They straighten up REAL QUICK.
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
That's kinda how their game was yesterday.
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by CentralCaliRox on Jul 9, 2011 4:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Really Dodgers?
AARON HARANG?
Wow
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Jul 9, 2011 4:08 PM MDT up reply actions
Or it's bad offense.
Probably bad offense.
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Jul 9, 2011 4:09 PM MDT up reply actions
them
1. Roger Bernadina (L) CF
2. Danny Espinosa (S) 2B
3. Ryan Zimmerman® 3B
4. Laynce Nix (L) LF
5. Michael Morse® 1B
6. Jayson Werth® RF
7. Jesus Flores® C
8. Ian Desmond® SS
9. Jason Marquis (L) P
How do you get your kids to behave? Threaten not to take them to a Rockies game. They straighten up REAL QUICK.
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
lol @ 100 million dollar man batting 6th
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by CentralCaliRox on Jul 9, 2011 4:07 PM MDT up reply actions
you would figure he would be batting 3rd or 4th. But, since we all knew that he wasn't that good, and apparently the Nationals DID NOT see it. Guess they don't get what they pay for.
How do you get your kids to behave? Threaten not to take them to a Rockies game. They straighten up REAL QUICK.
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
dude was coming off 3 straight 5 WAR seasons, and the one before was 3.3 in less than 100 games
the source of his troubles is a massive drop in BABIP, 60 points below his career average, and 40 points lower than what he had posted in any of his seasons in philadelphia… he’s posted the exact same speed score, walked and struck out at more or less the same rates in did in philly…. he’s seen a massive spike in his ground ball rate this year, as well as his IFFB rate. of concern has been a dropping line drive rate since his excellent 27% in 2007, but 16% is way too low for a guy like him…. expect a decent second half from werth, and a decent 2012 as well
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
maybe firing tracy isn't the answer, but something's just not clicking out there
Of course, he's also signed through 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016...
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
the nationals knew they would be overpaying for his decline years, which are set up to nicely coincide with
Bryce Harper
Stephen Strasburg
Drew Storen
Ryan Zimmerman
Jordan Zimmermann
Tyler Clippard
etc, etc
being in their primes and chock full of winning potential in a division that will see philadelphia paying ridiculous amounts of ancestral baseball players, a florida franchise that’s barely even that, the new york mets, and a resurgent braves club powered by much the same things that will have the nationals good: good young pitchers and position players backed up by veterans in their twilight years, dan uggla playing the part of jayson werth in atlanta
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
maybe firing tracy isn't the answer, but something's just not clicking out there
All of that is true
It still doesn’t make paying Werth $16m+ a year during 2015-2016 any less LOLworthy. He ain’t werth it.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
Let me rephrase
14:$20M, 15:$21M, 16:$21M, 17:$21M
It still doesn’t make paying Werth $21m a year during 2015, 2016 AND 2017 any less LOLwerthy. He most definitely ain’t werth it.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
That wouldn't be funny
if the 4-5 hitters were really good. Morse was one of the final 5 voting for the ASG so he’s at least decent.
"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." ~Tallulah Bankhead
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~Greg, age 8
JFK
fascinating series at BtB
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
maybe firing tracy isn't the answer, but something's just not clicking out there
On the plus side
game thread is up and 1st and the gints suck.
"We have done everything possible to be set for this day, for this season. It's time to go. We are ready. I can promise you that." - CarGo
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