Tuesday Rockpile: Rockies Sign Tyler Anderson, No One Else
by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2011 7:32 AM MDT
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In a surprise to no one, the Colorado Rockies signed 1st round and 20th overall pick Tyler Anderson yesterday, right at the deadline. The left-handed starter adds to a suddenly booming mid-to-upper level stable of rotation arms in the system, joining Drew Pomeranz (tomorrow), Alex White, Chad Bettis, Edwar Cabrera and Christian Friedrich.
Despite having little leverage on the Rockies due to being a college junior, Anderson took the Rockies right up to the deadline, just to agree to a near-slot signing bonus of $1.4million. Unfortunately, the two months wasted means Anderson could not jump on the accelerated path as Christian Friedrich did four years ago. Anderson is a nice high floor pick who should rise to the majors and contribute quickly, but that journey won't start until 2012 now.
Perhaps the bigger story at the deadline than Anderson's signing was that Colorado failed to sign any of their remaining 23 picks. Half of those were late round flyers that weren't going to sign, but the Rockies missed big when they failed to sign 3rd-round pick Peter O'Brien. Colorado hasn't lost a pick that high due to not signing the player since 2002, when they selected high school pitcher Micah Owings in the second round....right after Jeff Francis.
For an organization that just traded the best pitcher in franchise history due in large part to poor drafts, missing on a third rounder from the get-go hurts. Colorado had what appear to be very strong drafts in 2009 and 2010, but frankly, this one isn't shaping up so well.
With the saved money from Ubaldo Jimenez' salary (~$900k) and the added money in the budget from missing on O'Brien, one would figure the Rockies would have the funds to throw at a difficult sign, a late round talent that slipped due to signability/contract demands. The Rockies do that often (Dexter Fowler, Tyler Massey, Delta Cleary, Will Swanner), and there were several possibilities left yesterday that could have brought more legitimate talent into the farm.
Texas A&M RHP Thomas Stripling (9th round), California HS C David Schukneckt (12th round), University of Florida 1B/OF Preston Tucker (16th round) and Texas HS RHP John Curtiss (30th round) all would have made sense, though all four are taking their talents elsewhere. Stripling and Curtiss seemed to make their decisions early, and Tucker cut off negotiations early yesterday. So either the Rockies didn't step up to lure these men, or their pre-draft research led them to draft players they had no chance in signing. I'm not sure which would be worse.
Instead, this draft class will be heavily reliant on three high round high school position players, Texas HS SS Trevor Story (sandwich round), New Jersey HS OF Carl Thomore (2nd round) and Texas HS OF Dillon Thomas (4th round). Anderson, Story and perhaps Thomore will make this fall's PuRPs list. Compare that to last season's draft class, which saw Kyle Parker, Peter Tago, Chad Bettis, Josh Slaats, Corey Dickerson, and Will Swanner join the top 30, with Josh Rutledge just missing.
Not every draft can be a big splash, and there is certainly no way to know if the class will look this way in four years. But right now, I'm disenchanted. Story is a great pick and Anderson will contribute. There are some good players, but as Colorado failed to aggressively fill the farm, I just cannot be happy with how the chips fell yesterday. I'm not sure the Rockies are either.
Ten days after injury, a smiling Juan Nicasio visits relieved Colorado Rockies teammates at Coors Field - The Denver Post There is still no way to know if Nicasio will pitch again in the major leagues, let alone effectively, but so far, Nicasio's recovery from a broken neck has been leaps and bounds better at every turn than anyone dared speculate.
Rockies third-base coach hit by throw during pre-game drill - MLB - Sporting News Rich Dauer suffered a broken nose due to an errant throw by Chris Nelson in St. Louis, but recovered enough to be back on the field last night. Dauer joins Nicasio as two Rockies who suffered freak injuries on the field due to being struck by a ball on the head. For those who fear all things come in threes, perhaps the third already happened. I received an email from Martin Kandilas, father of Casper Ghosts center fielder David Kandilas, who informed me that Casper's first base coach John Stone had suffered a freak injury during batting practice when being struck in the face with a batted ball. Consequently, a player was acting as first base coach when Kandilas lost his grand slam and cycle due to bypassing a baserunner on his home run trot last Thursday.
UPDATE: Mets, Nimmo agree to $2.1M deal The Cheyenne native did indeed sign with the New York Mets, as every first round pick reached terms with their teams this season with an exception of Toronto's pick, RHP Tyler Beede.
Wheeler, Paulsen, Gomez, Bettis, Arenado and Cabrera cited by Baseball America | Inside the Colorado Rockies Baseball America polled the coaches in the minor leagues for the best tools at every position in every league. Most interesting on this list is Nolan Arenado, "Best Defensive Third Baseman in the California League." Any accolades Arenado has racked up defensively have been met with skepticism due draft-day (and later) scouting reports, but the more that pile up, the more realistic it seems Arenado has put himself on the path of sticking at third base. That's quite smart of him - if the third base market stays at its current level, Arenado will be quite the garnet among the granite.
Lastly, the Casper Star-Tribune has been running a long series called "From Casper to Coors," which chronicles the experiences of current Rockies Jhoulys Chacin, Eric Young Jr., Seth Smith and Chris Nelson at rookie level Casper, among other things. I highly encourage you to read.
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The draft this year makes it even more important
to continue losing. It sounds awful but it is almost necessary.
As far as I know, we don’t even have any type A/B free agents to get supplementary picks out of either.
I am incapable
Of rooting for my team to lose. I mean losing season after season never did anything for the Pirates in the past decade.
Get well soon Juan.
but the pirates didnt begin with a solid team.
we have a good team, just a crappy year.
the pirates were just bad.
So rooting for the Rockies to fail now will produce a good team in 3 or 4 years if the players we draft don't bust.
Yeah, good plan. Sorry, I can’t root for my team to fail. Its just not in me.
Get well soon Juan.
my logic is different
i still believe this team will compete next year, but to do so, the farm will take a hit with players like wheeler, white, pomeranz, friedrich, rosario, and possibly arenado making a contribution.
with that being the case, the need for a higher slot in the draft to fill in this high talent is desirable.
especially if it's a top 10 pick
we can grab an advanced college bat with a high floor and close to MLB ready.
When was the last time we grabbed one of those?
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Dammit.
Trade for a 2013 pick.
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Tulo
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2011 9:16 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Yep. That turned out okay.
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not to you it didn't LOLLOLOloo
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions
That's what I really wanted for the next draft, too
Then I took a look at the early draft rankings and got very depressed.
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by Junction Rox on Aug 16, 2011 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions
not-longoria
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
lets just use our 2012 money for something good and not another wigginton
Yeah. No.
Losing on purpose for draft picks never seems to really work out in baseball. It takes years to establish a strong system that will eventually lead to competitiveness. Even if we are close, this isn’t football where a player will provide major impact within 12 months on entering the league. That almost never happens.
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 16, 2011 9:16 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
i understand how drafting in the MLB works.
i also understand how an MLB farm system works. if we expect to be competitive next year, we will need to gut that farm system.
to fill the farm system, you not only need more talent, but the best talent available.
the fear in me sees the prime contract years of tulo and cargo being wasted because the farm is gutted now and not rebuilt.
There's still quite a bit that could unfold here
as far as Ellis staying type B and the Rockies offering him arb (?). Too early to tell on this front but your overall point about not getting many supplementary picks next season appears on the money.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2011 8:41 AM MDT up reply actions
I think in this case, they have to offer him a contract, not arbitration.
but yes, he might not even hold type B status
Oh
and it’s arbitration they have to offer him to get compensation if he leaves. There is quite a bit of risk in doing so.
I'd rather just re-sign him for 3mil and be done with it.
If we upgrade elsewhere, he can be a better Johnny Herrera.
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he only plays 2B though
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 10:05 AM MDT up reply actions
Scrappier than Herrara?
Is it 2012 yet?
by DAWNMARIE01 on Aug 16, 2011 10:18 AM MDT up reply actions
Herrera for Hitting Coach
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When I’m away they put the draft picks on the shelf
I want Tyler Anderson and no one else
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Aug 16, 2011 8:12 AM MDT reply actions
pfffft
only in dreams
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This seems very fair
Lots to be excited about, but also some things he needs to work on.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2011 8:42 AM MDT up reply actions
We won't pony up for some of our later picks
And Arizona has no problem paying $5M each for their two top 7 picks? Are we going to start acting like a small market team with the draft as well? I don’t mind it with FA, but with our draft picks that is inexcusable.
I wouldn't say that
without knowing how negotiations actually went. Who knows how many over slot offers they gave. Perhaps they ended up in a situation where they simply had players who didn’t want to sign period.
True we don't know about the offers
But someone, either the Scouting Director or scouts, should have an idea if the player is going to be a tough sign or would want to go back to school. Someone dropped the ball here and it has a greater effect on this organization since we’re not big players in FA.
I don't know
I see it as more of lack of luck getting these tough to sign players locked up than it is a fault on the team. They have done so well in recent years getting guys like Swanner and Fowler in later rounds despite all indications they couldn’t. Perhaps this year those they were not expected to sigh actually didn’t sign.
I agree 100% with what Fisher wrote above
Really disappointing class outside of Story — who looks like he could be a home run.
Thomore and Thomas need to pan out, and big for this to be a successful class.
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I agree that it is a disappointing draft.
But I’m not going to put all the blame on the organization for this one.
Will you blame the organization?
If we resign Alfonzo to a 1 year $1.5M deal in the offseason?
Not sure what that has to do with anything
but yes, I would blame them for that a lot more.
It’s similar to how I don’t blame the Rockies for not trading for Michael Young. We tried, but the other side backed out. It’s not like we didn’t offer these unsigned picks anything. We almost certainly did.
I'm not trying to get smart
but I’m going to look closely at the FA signings this winter. If we have the money to pay Alfonzo, why didn’t we have the money to pay some of the 23 unsigned picks? But I do blame the organization since someone should know whether a player is signable or not and what the range for signing is? Since DOD has mentioned on multiple occasiions we’re a team building from within I would expect DOD and the Scouting Director to compile info on college commitment and signing range.
I hope DOD holds another telephone conference in the coming weeks so I can ask about what exactly happened on signing day.
Complete agree with you on the Young non-trade.
You're also not acknowledging his point
It’s similar to how I don’t blame the Rockies for not trading for Michael Young. We tried, but the other side backed out. It’s not like we didn’t offer these unsigned picks anything. We almost certainly did.
If we have the money to pay Alfonzo, why didn’t we have the money to pay some of the 23 unsigned picks?
I’m also not sure why you’re hinging anything on Elizer Alfonzo. He’s getting paid the prorated league minimum. Even if the team resigns him, it won’t be for any meaningful amount of money.
You can’t directly draw a line between the money for the draft and the money spent on the MLB club. They’re totally different budgets, and especially with later round picks, I’m doubting the team was balking at a $100k difference.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 10:13 AM MDT up reply actions
To be fair,
I remember half the Snakepit at the beginning of the year preparing to be annoyed at KT if we could sign 17 redundant washed-up veterans but not sign our second 1st rounder.
Goldschmidt happens.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 16, 2011 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm not sure that's "fair"
I’d say half the snakepit is wrong as well. It’s not an issue of “affording” them.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions
Indeed, probably.
Just saying it’s not a rare sentiment.
Differing budgets, yes. Same organization, also yes.
Goldschmidt happens.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 16, 2011 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions
Drafts are a tricky thing
Because if anyone followed up with “Well, why not just give them what they want?” I wouldn’t have a good answer, outside of mumbling something about slot bonuses and setting the table for the future of the MLB draft.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions
True,
but at the same time, what are the odds any given pick even makes the majors?
You’ve gotta weigh their demands, what you THINK they’ll sign for, and how likely you think they are to ever actually contribute. For all you know, O’Brien may be drafted again in 3 years, sign, and never leave High-A.
It’d be less of a debate if the draft were less of a crapshoot. There’s a line, and the argument is about where that line should be.
Disregarding any sort of precedent set, if you actually spend enough money to sign your top 50 picks or so, what do you think the return is on that investment?
Goldschmidt happens.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 16, 2011 11:58 AM MDT up reply actions
hopefully 4-5 major leaguers of varying talent
and a bunch of organizational filler.
That’s your “I hope this draft works out” scenario
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Before classifying the rest of the class as disappointing
Take a look at Harold Riggins’ numbers at Casper, which I posted in a comment to today’s Pebble Report. A .445 OBP and .310 avg. w/ some power in 145 AB’s is nothing to sneeze at. If we need a “sleeper” from the 2011 draft class, Harold Bellefonte Riggins (gotta like the middle name) is someone to keep an eye on.
2011 Rockies -- what the hell?
You and I disagree on this prospect.
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What's your feeling about him?
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by Junction Rox on Aug 16, 2011 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions
the next Corey Dickerson?
great Casper numbers, but likely not a quality prospect long term.
I don’t hate him, he just won’t be on my radar unless he does this consistently next season as well.
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Maris does have a point though.
Bellefonte is a pretty magnificent middle name.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions
DAY-O
Just an average guy with exceptional hair. Nothing more, nothing less.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Aug 16, 2011 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
gotta rec the banana boat
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions
It worries me a bit
we’ve already got enough players who “daylight come and me wanna go home”. Have you seen our record in day games?
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by Junction Rox on Aug 16, 2011 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Featherston is actually my sleeper in this class
I think he’ll get the Rutledge bump to Modesto next year, and his batted ball profile this season says he may do well.
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maybe....
but it isn’t unusual for college players to destroy the Pioneer league—he isn’t even doing as well as one of his Casper teammates drafted 15 or so rounds later.
by DenverBears on Aug 16, 2011 12:49 PM MDT up reply actions
I exempt Tucker
I knew when FL lost the CWS he was going to be a tough sign.
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I would hope that if we were in the same position as Arizona this year
with a chance to add two TOR prospects — one with near MLB potential, then we would have spent the money as well..
I hope.
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Yeah two great prospects
For the price of one bad Cook.
These are two totally different animals
Arizona believes they are dealing with two guys who have SERIOUS TOR potential and they made sure they got them under contract. The last time the Rockies were in this situation was when they were dealing with Tyler Matzek, and they didn’t get cheap with him.
O’Brien is a wonderful prospect, and I be lying to you if I said I wasn’t disappointed we failed to sign him, but these situations are not the same at all.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2011 8:48 AM MDT up reply actions
Agree it's apples and oranges
My complaint is the draft budget for the Dbacks was at least $10M since it took that amount to sign those two prospects. I don’t know what our budget was or what the total expenditure ended up being but it was nowhere near $10M.
If we were in the same situation as the Dback were this year, would our draft budget have been at least 10M? I would hope we would but like Muzia, I’m not sure but would bet one of those picks would go under slot.
the Dbacks deserve plenty of applause
for their draft this year. They could have picked a lower ceiling guy with their unprotected pick. Instead they shot for the moon and landed two studs.
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I love the risks the Dbacks took.
Not sure how the rest of their draft played out but I love the approach. Spending in the draft just makes too much sense.
They were in a pretty sweet lie with two top 10 picks...
in a deeeeep draft.
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Didn't sign
our 6th or 7th rounders. Got a good deal with Kyle Winkler in the 10th.
Goldschmidt happens.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 16, 2011 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions
They are set up to be a very big problem in this divsion for a very long time
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2011 9:22 AM MDT up reply actions
Check out
KT’s deplorable draft history with SD before saying this…
Granted, I hope it’s true, but..
Goldschmidt happens.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 16, 2011 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions
I was using the present tense.
He is, right now, kicking our butts. This does not necessarily mean that he kicked out butts in the past. Nor that he will kick ours butts in the future. But today, August 16, 2011, he is kicking out butts.
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 16, 2011 11:35 AM MDT up reply actions
True.
I’m more worried about the latter, hence my look to the former.
Goldschmidt happens.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 16, 2011 11:49 AM MDT up reply actions
I think you need to remember where our draft position was too
The Dbacks had 3 and 7, we had pick 20. They were forced to spend that kind of money. Add in all the compensation pickes the Blue Jays and Rays had, and most of the talent worthy of that kind of budget was gone before we got to pick thrice.
I wouldn't say they were forced to pay
since they could’ve taken a near slot player instead of buying out Bradley from his college commitment. I had no issue with the Rox playing it safe in the 1st round with Anderson but was more upset with not taking high upside players in the later rounds (based on draft analysis). And now it seems, would we even have signed them?
Bradley's $5 million bonus
is prorated over 5 years, though, because he’s a 2 sport athlete.
Goldschmidt happens.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 16, 2011 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions
If this happened every year I would agree with you 100%
but I don’t think you can look at the examples ATF cited and assume that the Rockies just won’t spend money to sign later draft picks. Whether it didn’t happen this year because they decided to change strategy and not spend the money or because they were simply dealing with a group of kids that didn’t sign for one reason or another is something none of us really know right now.
Although, as ATF points out, if we got to this point because we drafted a bunch of unsignable guys and didn’t know it, that’s not a great sign either….
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by Junction Rox on Aug 16, 2011 9:47 AM MDT up reply actions
via Drew Pomeranz's twitter:
After two boring weeks, officially a Rockie!flying to Tulsa in a couple hours excited to get goin again!
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by Muzia on Aug 16, 2011 9:01 AM MDT reply actions 2 recs
You can't like how he bashes Cleveland.
Filling up your senses like a night in the forest since 1992.
by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 16, 2011 9:03 AM MDT up reply actions
I doubt he was bashing Cleveland
IIRC, he was working out by himself at the Indians ST facility for the past two weeks; you can’t fault him for getting bored.
I think it was a joke about Alex White's arrival to Denver
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steakman, then Muzia spoke the words of my internal monologue.
“Double this.”
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Tyler Skaggs
had the same problem last year.
Goldschmidt happens.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 16, 2011 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions
He's turned out okay, too.
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Slightly.
But yeah, he was basically playing catch with himself for 10 days or so.
Goldschmidt happens.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 16, 2011 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions
“Ok, kid. Your job is not to get yourself hurt for the next two weeks, because it will seriously upset a lot of people if you do. Pick up your bubblewrap over there and go home. But stay in shape while you do it….”
“Uhhh, ok…”
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by RoarFrom112 on Aug 16, 2011 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions
"Not sayin' anything, just saying.
We’ve got you a bus ticket to South Bend for the 18th, and you can’t get hurt before there."
Goldschmidt happens.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 16, 2011 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions
No Tulsa game tonight
I hope he pitches tomorrow.
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Aug 16, 2011 9:05 AM MDT up reply actions
Houston is scheduled, but I hope he gets bumped
No offense, Dan…
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Could the knowledge
of the weakness of this draft have increased pressure to deal Ubaldo? Despite the deadline hype, there are usually very few surprises about who will sign and who will not. Since we knew that this year was going to be pretty grim, and Anderson was most likely going to take us to the deadline, I wonder if part of the Ubaldo trade was designed to compensate somewhat for a meager draft performance.
We didn't trade Ubaldo for this draft's weakness
but the weaknesses of 2006-2008 really came into play, I believe.
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the Jennings trade quote opened my eyes
I think it would have been a distinct possibility even if Friedrich was knocking down the door. They really are afraid of him burning out and decided to sell high.
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This and I really don't think they believed Ubaldo was an Ace going forward
The played the whole thing like they who had every intention of getting every last ounce of production in return they could right now.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2011 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions
weak draft in strong draft class
Makes weak class weaker
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2011 9:18 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Confucius say:
Greg Reynolds over Evan Longoria,
makes Rockies sad fan
/got nuthin
FFFFFFFFFFF.
/it is a new beginning, right?
by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 16, 2011 9:41 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah there was just no excuse for that one
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
lets just use our 2012 money for something good and not another wigginton
Ian Stewart was in his 3rd straight year in BA's Top 50
Garret Atkins was coming off a .400 road wOBA and we were happy that Josh Fogg was getting a start, a high floor college lefty made sense. Doesn’t mean I forgive them, just that I understand why they did it. The fact that I have to watch Kershaw and Lincecum in the division from the same draft rubs salt in the wound.
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True
but it still rolls back to “you take the best talent available” and don’t draft to fill organizational need in the first rounds.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions
Tyler Anderson.
/maybe
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Really, at 20, who do we pick?
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions
Troy Glaus
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
then bounce him for Mike Trout
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 11:58 AM MDT up reply actions
I said /maybe
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I think it came off more biting than inquisitive
I seriously don’t know who else we should’ve picked. There wasn’t an obvious Matt Wieters or something just sitting there.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 12:00 PM MDT up reply actions
I remember the draft thread when our pick came up
I don’t remember any huge groundswell of “we’ve got to get THIS guy”. A few people had favorites, and we all agreed grabbing Bell or somebody would be awesome if he signed, but the overall expectation was probably a Kolten Wong or somebody like that…
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by Junction Rox on Aug 16, 2011 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions
I mean, you could say Josh Bell
but that was just some crazy stuff that Pittsburgh pulled.
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 16, 2011 12:09 PM MDT up reply actions
I think if we had taken Story at 20 and Anderson with the second pick
everyone would be fine, but drafting a low ceiling college lefty feels like surrender. Tell me why I shouldn’t think Anderson has Greg Smith written all over him
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Because Muzia doesn't love him that much?
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by Junction Rox on Aug 16, 2011 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions
AMart and I have discussed why I will probably end up loving Anderson
His career is doomed.
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I'll go on record now.....
I know a lot of people would disagree with me, but II would have preferred Mahtook or Cron—we’ll see if I’m right.
For the record, my track record isn’t great—I hated the Weathers and Reynolds picks (and thought they should have taken Longoria and tried him at 2nd) at the time, but I was lukewarm on Tulo and loved the Stewart and Nelson picks.
by DenverBears on Aug 16, 2011 12:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Cron was gone when we picked...
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by Junction Rox on Aug 16, 2011 1:00 PM MDT up reply actions
I meant the other Cron, his brother...
just kidding—my mistake…I wanted Cron going into the draft, but forgot he was picked before the Rockies….so scratch that.
I’ll go with Mahtook then—we’ll see in a few years who was right.
eh on Mahtook
he has a decent toolset, but nothing that really blows me away as better than what we currently have in the system.
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Oh yeah but if you are drafting #2 in the draft
you are looking at almost every talent available, so was it a Barry Sanders/ Tony Mandrich pick? or was it like Rendon this year?
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I tend to hate being part of this particular conversation
but yeah, the Rockies severely screwed the pooch by not taking Longoria or Kershaw. Not taking Lincecum, I understand.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 11:54 AM MDT up reply actions
If they saw a competitive window opening I understand wanting
pitching, I wasn’t in to this enough to know then how it was viewed, but I do remember most people thinking we would take Longo. Was he the clear cut “best bat” in the draft? I remember a lot of cheapforts comments about us not getting Andrew Miller.
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There were a lot of questions if he would stick as a starter, IIRC
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 12:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Still are.
But he WAS on the board.
And for that matter, what about concerns about Lincecum?
Goldschmidt happens.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 16, 2011 12:58 PM MDT up reply actions
mainly his size
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by black_knight101 on Aug 16, 2011 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions
mainly that his arm would fly off of his shoulder and hit the catcher in the head, causing a double DL stint.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 2:34 PM MDT up reply actions
"If a man takes no thought about what is distant [third base needs at the time], he will find sorrow near at hand."
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2011 10:16 AM MDT up reply actions
did you find that in a fortune cookie?
Is it 2012 yet?
by DAWNMARIE01 on Aug 16, 2011 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions
It's something Confucius said
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2011 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions
So there's higher than not chance you did find it
in a fortune cookie.
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were there lottery numbers with it
and a Chinese lesson on the other side?
Is it 2012 yet?
by DAWNMARIE01 on Aug 16, 2011 10:30 AM MDT up reply actions
seriously lol
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But that would impact us for a few years.
I’m finally not worried about our future starting pitching depth. If Rutledge does this same thing in Tulsa next year, I’ll breath a sigh of relief.
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Obviously.
I’m not suggesting that that was the primary reason. But I wonder if it added even more pressure to make a deal now instead of waiting for the offseason or midseason next year.
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 16, 2011 9:19 AM MDT up reply actions
I would add 05 to that list
2005-08 drafts have so far produced
1 no duh pick
Tulo
3 Low ceiling MLB/AAAA players
Greg Reynolds
Michael McKenry
Charlie Blackmon
that is a lot of missed oppurtunity thank goodness for Latin developement or we would have been in the hunt for Harper last year.
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The defensive metrics can't seem to make up their mind with Justin Upton
UZR likes his range so much this season that he is now ranked at +12.6 (He took a huge jump when the numbers updated this morning). This leap has vaulted him all the way to the top of the NL fWAR leaderboard and is helping give him an inside track to a possible MVP award.
Meanwhile, Total Zone not only believes Upton falls short of being an elite fielder this season – It actually thinks he’s been a liability. (2011 Total Zone = -5)
But wait, it gets even wilder. Heading into this season, it was Total Zone who thought the world of Upton’s defense with a career +29 number, including a +22 and a +17 in 2009 and 2010. Fangraphs on the other hand only had him ranked as a very mediocre +4 for his entire career before this season and now thinks he’s more than quadrupled his defensive output with this year’s showing alone.
And oh by the way, DRS has him as consistent as can be – In the four season’s he’s played at least 100 games, DRS has never had him higher than a +11, and never had him lower than a +5.
This is Exhibit A of why I think these three defensive metrics should be averaged before being used in a WAR score. The difference in using Upton’s UZR number and his Total Zone number for for the fielding component in his WAR score is nearly TWO FULL WINS – and that’s atrocious!!! It’s the one knock I have – and it’s a pretty big one – on what is otherwise arguably the most outstanding baseball statistic ever created.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2011 9:19 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Nice post
Those differences are crazy
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by nodakroxfan on Aug 16, 2011 9:38 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
maybe arizona is trying a new defensive alignment
think pittsburgh with mccutchen
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
lets just use our 2012 money for something good and not another wigginton
Not that I care about MVP awards
but if the voters are basing their choice on UZR or Total Zone to any material degree…perhaps they shouldn’t be voting.
Even stat-heavy people should be agreeing with that
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 10:28 AM MDT up reply actions
They may be without realizing it though.
In this post, I was speaking more to the point that Upton is leading the NL in fWAR and how that certainly helps his MVP chances with any of the voters who value WAR as a stat. However, Upton wouldn’t be leading the NL in fWAR if we averaged the three defensive metrics. The top five would instead look like this….
1) Matt Kemp – 6.4
2) Tulo – 6.3
3) Ryan Braun – 5.8
4) Shane Victorino – 5.7
5) Justin Upton – 5.6
Instead it looks like this….
1) Justin Upton – 6.4
2) Matt Kemp – 5.9
3) Tulo – 5.9
4) Shane Victoino – 5.7
5) Matt Holliday – 5.4
(With Braun 7th)
If anyone is using fWAR to help them dermine their vote, they are putting quite a bit of weight into UZR.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2011 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions
if anybody is using any published WAR to determine their vote, they're putting quite a bit of weight into a questionable defensive metric
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions
And that's kind of my point
It would be better if we averged the three to take that error out. Once all three defensive metrics speak at the same time they start to carry some weight in mind.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2011 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions
you mean like fangraphs does with the ADR?
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions
Yes
And I’ve been saying this before they put ADR up there and even sent emails about it. They did take step 1 which is nice by putting ADR up there but I want it used in the WAR score.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2011 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions
I agree. And using all 3 would eliminate a lot of the variability in the defensive rankings
but you also have to remember that WAR isn’t supposed to be used to tell the difference between close scores. The difference between 5.6 and 6.4 is basically meaningless as far as I’m concerned, and you’ve proved that by showing how defensive metrics swap player rankings so easily.
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by black_knight101 on Aug 16, 2011 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions
It's not 5.6 to 6.4 though
That’s the score with me averaging it. Suppose fWAR just happened to use Total Zone instead of UZR, the the difference would be 4.6 to 6.4. (Baseball Reference War – which does use Total Zone – has Upton all the way down to 4.1) That’s a pretty significant gap in my mind – and regardless of whether you think the gap is big or small I see averaging the three defensive metrics as a way to imrove the statistic.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2011 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions
2 wins is definitely a bigger difference, which is why they should do what you are suggesting
and I agree that using one defensive metric is bad. And i’m not even sure I trust the defensive metrics anyways, especially for outfielders.
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by black_knight101 on Aug 16, 2011 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions
Outfielders can tend to make up for bad fielding fundamentals
with pure athleticism. They can also make up for bad athleticism with good fielding fundamentals. None of the metrics are capable of representing this balance. very well.
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 16, 2011 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions
FWIW,
and it’s not worth much, Upton has ridiculous range and arm but also 11 errors.
Goldschmidt happens.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 16, 2011 12:08 PM MDT up reply actions
fWAR
also uses the superior hitting metric, though, and its lower baseline means the differences between players are slightly more relevant than rWAR’s.
Personally, I prefer fWAR in general, but their UZR-FIP system is definitely flawed. We’ve got some decent pitchers with flyball tendencies this year, and it means our OF UZR ends up being, like, +437.2 or something ridiculous.
Goldschmidt happens.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 16, 2011 12:08 PM MDT up reply actions
I also like fWAR because it uses the superior hitting metric.
there’s clearly no easy answer here. If I were a team, however, and had access to all of the scouts that they have, I’d try to develop a metric that incorporates defensive abilities based on scouting.
I also think there should be some way to evaluate a player’s defense based on video analysis with a computer, but I have no idea if that is something that MLB teams are thinking about.
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by black_knight101 on Aug 16, 2011 1:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Red Sox have their own proprietary defensive metric
that sounds very similar to what you are describing
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I think I have heard about that before.
I’m not sure how the Rockies evaluate defense and factor it into their decision making, but they clearly value it.
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by black_knight101 on Aug 16, 2011 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions
"well, it says here on his baseball card that he can play 2B"
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 2:34 PM MDT up reply actions
given their use of fan scouting, I have zero interest in incorporating their ADR into WAR
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 11:03 AM MDT up reply actions
I agree I'd rather eliminate that part of it (as my suggestion was to just average the big three)
But since it only counts for 10%, I still think that would be more telling than just a plain UZR score.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2011 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions
You talk about it
a little in this piece.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2011 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions
that being said, I think Upton is a serious MVP candidate
and should win.
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Is anyone else all hot and bothered that the 3 best are from the NL West?
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm probably going to be hot and bothered
when a player who is not from the NL West wins the MVP anyway.
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 16, 2011 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions
I hear Shane Victorino plays for the Phillies
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions
true story
no way he wins, unless he powers the Cards to October singlehandedly.
Which I have very little doubt that he’s capable of.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions
I've made this exact post/comment just so many times
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions
if he does to the remaining opposing pitchers
what he did to Brad Lidge, it’s a moot point.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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"show us on the doll where you thought you located your fastball"
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
You owe me a new monitor.
That’s funny right there.
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"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
"... One order of buffalo wings, please..." -Yokel, after July 30, 2011
I would rather have Shelby Miller and Colby Rasmus than the
Haul we got on Ubaldo, throw in Allen Craig and they could have had Betancourt and Street
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If the season ended today, he would get my vote
But if let’s say Braun outpaces him the rest of the way, this wide gap in defensive metrics could hurt him.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2011 10:52 AM MDT up reply actions
as time goes by
I look more and more to DRS
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I would like to post an amusing video that is really apropos of nothing baseball related
but made me laugh, because I’m pretty much a child at heart.
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So I guess what I'm asking is do we have an OT for the day or can I post it here.
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If you post it here
I’m guessing that an OT will be created.
(Oh, and if its youtube, please don’t post a shortened url. Work firewalls tend to block those)
Get well soon Juan.
I never post shortened URLs
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give it a minute
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 10:29 AM MDT up reply actions
ok here you go
http://www.purplerow.com/2011/8/16/2366437/tuesday-ot
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions
More psychedlia than prog.
I don’t think they have any songs over 10 minutes. Unless you consider all of their songs sounding the same meaning that it’s just one really long song. That’s so prog!
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 16, 2011 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions
NL coaches also gave a shout out to Carlos Gonzalez in the Baseball America poll
He was voted best NL outfield LAZOR, or arm if you want to call it that.
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by black_knight101 on Aug 16, 2011 10:53 AM MDT reply actions
Combined with Tulo I assume that would give us the top IF and top OF arms?
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yes. just looked at the BA list.
Tulo got best defensive SS and best infield arm, and Helton got 3rd best defensive infielder
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by black_knight101 on Aug 16, 2011 12:51 PM MDT up reply actions
About last night's game
I find it kinda interesting that this season Giambi and Thome have had a few nights when both of them have big hrs.
July 17: Thome hit a 490 ft hr (longest of the season at that point at least). Giambi launched one into the third deck at Coors.
August 15: Thome hits hrs 599 and 600, Giambi hits the Rox first walk-off hr.
Obviously Thome has a little more going for him, but just a simple observation. And where else could I share this little thought I had than PR??
Fun facts! Thanks!
Joe Posnanski has a great Thome piece out today.
Hey guys....
Guess who’s gonna be in the September edition of Rockies magazine?……
This year sucks.
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2011 12:47 PM MDT reply actions 6 recs
: (
Don’t make me depressed, now.
This year sucks.
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2011 12:49 PM MDT up reply actions
YOU!
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YES!!
I wrote a fan story in May and submitted it to them in June. It’s gonna be edited a little (since I’m so long-winded), but their gonna publish it!
This year sucks.
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2011 12:51 PM MDT up reply actions
*they're
/shakes head
This year sucks.
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2011 12:52 PM MDT up reply actions
It's gonna be edited.
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:D
just messing with you, Pip! That’s awesome!
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Woo hoo!!!!
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Now that you're in Dead Tree Media,
I should have you write for me!
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 16, 2011 12:53 PM MDT up reply actions
Haha
“Dead tree media”
This year sucks.
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2011 12:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Got my journalism degree from UNC a few months back
Was sports editor at the campus paper for 3 semesters
Anxiously waiting the arrival of Drew Pomeranz.
I'm in textbooks.
Wrong dead trees. I did give a freelance assignment to someone on here. That person did a pretty good job with it though the person was new to this side of the fence. I don’t have much more in the way of that at the moment.
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 16, 2011 1:29 PM MDT up reply actions
We're K-12 intervention.
We do some digital, but our focus is still teachers with students—except in our tech-only division of the company. The truth is that most of the digital out there does little or nothing to help students learn. Instead, they tend to be glorified worksheets (which could be as complex as a video game, but still serves the same purpose) or presentation enhancements still built around the sage-on-the-stage model.
I’m dying to create some technology product that actually leverages technology to enhance learning, instead of decorating teaching. I still can’t get the executives to go for it yet though.
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 16, 2011 3:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'm in higher ed so it's probably a bit different.
We have a lot of digital products that really do enhance learning, but I have no idea what our K-12 division is doing.
Ever think of developing it alone?
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Yes and no.
I have:
1) No capital
2) Two kids
3) A desire to see those two kids from time to time
Although I’d like to, I’m not the entrepenuerial-type. I’m the Wozniak to the Jobs. I’ve got a little of Jobs in me, but if I were to make it rich, I’d walk away pretty quickly.
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 16, 2011 3:40 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm pretty much the same way
Just thought it might be a good niche if you had the answer figured out.
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The guy who founded our company
is a divorced guy in his 50s with grown kids. The company is his life. Good for him, but that ain’t me.
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 16, 2011 4:18 PM MDT up reply actions
I hear that.
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'GRATS!
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That's awesome
Let’s make this green!!!
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2011 1:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Done!
Congrats PiP!! Can’t wait to read it….
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Aug 16, 2011 1:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Thanks, me either! ; )
They’re sending me a couple copies, too, which I thought was cool.
This year sucks.
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2011 1:32 PM MDT up reply actions
I posted this in the GT, but I realize that not everyone frequents there,
so I will mention it here as well.
I’ve got an extra ticket for tomorrow night’s game.
Pros:
Free.
Sec. 144, Row 14
Cons:
You have to sit next to me.
Aaron Cook.
Let me know if you’re interested.
I'm interested
but unfortunately I’m also 2,000 miles away.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 16, 2011 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm interested.
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I will make my email address visible for the next little bit.
Send me an email. We’ll sort out the details.
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 16, 2011 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions
Got it, thanks
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hella good deal
I’m too slow
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Do you always miss the high five too?
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oh hai
where have you been
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lurking.
I don’t feel that I had anything to add to this discussion about draft pics.
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I love the Rockies.
More than I love wieners in my mouth though.
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sweet.
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I should have held out.
I forgot that I am still supposed to be mad at Muzia because he PROMISED me that Wigginton was getting moved at the trade deadline.
I’ll have to remember to duck when the foul ball comes our way.
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 16, 2011 4:09 PM MDT up reply actions
Who knows what's going through this organization's mind anymore..
You can’t hold that against me
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we are no longer "familiar with the Rockies mentality"
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 16, 2011 4:30 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
/magic8ball
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
lets just use our 2012 money for something good and not another wigginton
Charlie Blackmon is answering Twitter questions right now on the Rockies official feed.
Also, photo.
And he's awesome.
He likes to call himself “Chuck Nazty.” Also, he’s going back to GT this offseason to finish his degree.
Finance.
I couple more:
Coolest thing from fan: A little girl drew me a picture and I put it in my pocket that game and went 4-4 that night, 6/17.
Hardest thing about being on the DL is entertaining myself at home when team is on the road. and balancing on my scooter.
I seriously love this guy
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Me too.
My strongest asset is my sick beard, and the ‘party’ (my hair) that hangs out the back of my hat.
Q: Charlie, your hair is feathered and lethal. How do u do it? Haha
I just roll out of bed, look in the mirror and all I see is greatness.
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by black_knight101 on Aug 16, 2011 3:21 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
damn he is awesome.
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DO NOT COMPARE HIM TO THAT GUY EVER
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I guess that means I should put away
my “Fear the Feather” signs.
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 16, 2011 3:41 PM MDT up reply actions
yes.
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Only, you know, cool.
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We cannot be friends now
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i'll still not hate you
i happen to find wilson amusing
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
lets just use our 2012 money for something good and not another wigginton
...a little
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
lets just use our 2012 money for something good and not another wigginton
Am I the only worried about how Charlie's twittering
will be perceived if he doesn’t rake as soon as he gets back off the DL?
A la Ian?
(Am not saying it’s bad, just wondering)
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Blackmon went to Georgia Tech
he knows how to slop hogs.
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HA!! Good point!
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Well, so far he hasn't actually tweeted anything on his new account.
No way to tell yet how what or how often he’ll post.
Well based on today's tweets I think he might go hog wild.
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Don't get me wrong. I'm all for it
He seems to be very tongue-in-cheek
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john axford has a great facebook and twitter
and is still able to be a good baseball player.
see ian, not everyone has to pick one or the other!
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
lets just use our 2012 money for something good and not another wigginton
LOL:
RT @StevenScurlock: #RockiesTweet20 Charlie, what is your favorite animal? “A Liger. Duh.” http://t.co/cnPw6tI
oh man that's a movie reference
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 16, 2011 3:49 PM MDT up reply actions
A Nazty aint got no humanity
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
WAHOO!
RT @mmontano81: Favorite hot dog topping…Chili-cheese, if they’re stuck together it counts as one topping.
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Ha!
I saw that and at first didn’t notice it was you who asked, so I was going to point it out to you. Then I realized.
if it's some idiot asking about hot dogs
you can bet that 90% of the time it’s me.
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that is the correct answer
also, he’s probably my favorite Rockie now
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by black_knight101 on Aug 16, 2011 3:20 PM MDT up reply actions
he's up there with me, that's for sure
one of the few I think I could comfortably have a beer with
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Steadily climbing the ranks definitely.
This year sucks.
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2011 3:23 PM MDT up reply actions
The season was over for me when Blackmon broke his foot.
I just realized this fact.
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fantastic news
he joined twitter
according to @Rockies
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by black_knight101 on Aug 16, 2011 3:29 PM MDT up reply actions
YESSSSSSSSSSS
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me too
“coming soon”
This year sucks.
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2011 3:34 PM MDT up reply actions
Yessssssss
FFFFFFFFFFF.
/it is a new beginning, right?
by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 16, 2011 3:36 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
everybody's favorite lineup today
#Rockies vs. #Marlins 8/16 6:40p
Fowler CF
Ellis 2B
Gonzalez RF
Tulowitzki SS
Helton 1B
Smith LF
Nelson 3B
Iannetta C
Chacin P
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by black_knight101 on Aug 16, 2011 3:17 PM MDT reply actions
Oh look, a real lineup...
Smitty in LF
CarGo in RF
????
FFFFFFFFFFF.
/it is a new beginning, right?
by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 16, 2011 3:29 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
good as it gets right now, player wise
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i was thinking about this last night
If we were facing a RHP, the lineup I might throw out there
CarGo
Fowler
Smith
Tulo
Helton
Nelson
Ellis
CDI
P
i’ll explain my reasoning when i have a couple more minutes but what do you guys think? CDI/Nelson/Ellis are probably interchangeable
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by black_knight101 on Aug 16, 2011 3:36 PM MDT up reply actions
/thud
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Whoa that's a big ball
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surprisingly legit
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
lets just use our 2012 money for something good and not another wigginton
Last night was so much fun
I was really bummed out yesterday for various reasons and I thought the Dex rundown was like the most terrible end to a day like that…and then he was safe. I loved seeing the guys celebrate at home plate…made me smile. Hope the game today does the same thing !
Did you go to the game?
This year sucks.
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2011 3:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Do you think Sanchez is going to one hit us again tonight?
I don’t think so. We got a good lineup out there tonight. Let’s hope for the best.
DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD IT WAS TO DROP UBALDO AND NICASIO FROM MY FANTASY LEAGUE? I'VE HAD UBALDO SINCE 2008.
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
He's on my fantasy team
and I can promise you he hasn’t been even close to one hitting anybody lately. He’s been getting roughed up pretty good.
So yeah, he’s probably going to one hit us tonight.
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Aug 16, 2011 3:51 PM MDT up reply actions
I have a chance to grab him but Im going to pass today.
Limited on how many moves I can make. Not going to waste it on him
DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD IT WAS TO DROP UBALDO AND NICASIO FROM MY FANTASY LEAGUE? I'VE HAD UBALDO SINCE 2008.
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
yeah it's about the time of year we traditionally bust out the non-humidor balls
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
lets just use our 2012 money for something good and not another wigginton
It's the most....wonderful tiiime... of the year!!!
This year sucks.
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2011 4:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Holy hell if you live southeast of Denver there is massive wall of gray and black heading toward you
FFFFFFFFFFF.
/it is a new beginning, right?
by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 16, 2011 4:00 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Oh boy
http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=FTG&product=NCR&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD IT WAS TO DROP UBALDO AND NICASIO FROM MY FANTASY LEAGUE? I'VE HAD UBALDO SINCE 2008.
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
That radar has a lot of ground clutter or upper level moisture on it.
It isn’t raining that much.
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 16, 2011 4:12 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't think the heavy stuff's coming down for quite a while.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 16, 2011 4:43 PM MDT up reply actions
This is stupid already.
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I'm not from here, so I have no dog in this race.
I don’t see much of a difference between Invesco and Sports Authority though.
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 16, 2011 4:54 PM MDT up reply actions
How about just "Mile High Stadium"
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Have I been transported back in time 10 years ago?
by ShadowPenguin on Aug 16, 2011 4:56 PM MDT up reply actions
It's a much better place
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Except for that Discovery One missions to Jupiter
that went horribly awry.
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 16, 2011 5:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Sure.
The tie to the name is pretty interesting for an outsider. I’ve never been in a place where there was such a passionate defense of it. Most places I have lived just kind of accepted that new stadiums were getting new names that were probably corporate.
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 16, 2011 4:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Nothing wrong with it. Just interesting.
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 16, 2011 4:59 PM MDT up reply actions
The thing is - nobody calls it by the
big long name (well at least anyone who isn’t in the media) – and it just gets called “mile high stadium” I think it is a huge waste of advertising money.
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A lot of people had gotten used to calling it "Invesco"
Now I have a feeling it’s just going to be “Mile High”, though. “Sports Authority” is a bit cumbersome
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Aug 16, 2011 5:02 PM MDT up reply actions
I haven't lived in Denver for 20 years
I still call it Mile High but yes we all know to look for the big roller coaster.
They should just call it the Roller Coaster at Mile High
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i thought most people just called it invesco
Like, where is the U2 concert at? Its at Invesco Field
Same here.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 16, 2011 5:02 PM MDT up reply actions
You'd be surprised at how many announcers from other cities
still call it Mile High
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I've never been able to call it Mile High.
I have very specific memories from old Mile High, so it felt unnatural. Invesco worked better for me.
except tv and print is required to.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 16, 2011 5:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Agree
If I’m recalling correctly, this is the first time a venue has changed names like this in Colorado.
Some places have gotten rediculous with name changes (looking at you, Oakland) but we’ve stayed away mostly.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 16, 2011 5:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Also, people say their were more memories in Mile High than invesco. But their were some really good teams that played in Mile High, along with the two Super Bowl championship teams. While in Invesco, the broncos have been mediocre. If they got good, they would create some memories.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 16, 2011 5:02 PM MDT up reply actions
That's what I find interesting.
The Steelers runs in the 70s and 90s were all at Three Rivers. I was living in the city when they tore the stadium down, but no-one was calling for the new football stadium to be called Three Rivers.
It’s an interesting side to Denver. Of course, Denver sports culture is a lot younger than Pittsburgh sports culture. That might be a factor.
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 16, 2011 5:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Also, Heinz and PNC are pretty identifiable Pittsburgh companies.
That might have helped the situation.
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 16, 2011 5:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Gart Stadium at Mile High?
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Yeah, I don't know
Will people tie the Steelers’ recent success with Heinz field? will they care?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 16, 2011 5:11 PM MDT up reply actions
Mile High Stadium was demolished when I was a kid.
I really don’t care about the name, either way, but it’s better than Invesco, I guess.
This year sucks.
by prettyinpurple on Aug 16, 2011 4:59 PM MDT up reply actions
So "We've Sold Out and We're a Mile High" wasn't available?
what about “Medical Marijuana at Mile High”?
I like it more than Invesco I suppose...
I can’t remember which of the suggestions at MHR I liked this morning. I went back to see, but none stood out. This seems about as good as the others.
That's so dumb
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From Troy Renck (who I can spot in that photo, heh):
Nicasio said biggest fear was that be paralyzed He’s very driven to pitch again
this is awesome
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If you do that sort of thing,
I’d suggest you remember him in your prayers every once in a while. He seems like a good kid.
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 16, 2011 5:37 PM MDT up reply actions
I loved what I read about him being really interested in learning English well, wanting to come across well to fans, etc.
I think I remember that Ubaldo really helped him with that.
I haz a question
What happened to Cole Garner this season? Was he injured?
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