Monday Rockpile: Arizona Looks Poised To Take The Division - Are We OK With That?
by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 7:30 AM MDT
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PrintIf you asked Colorado Rockies fans who the Rockies' biggest division rival was, right now they'd probably say the Giants. There are 3 other teams in the division: the Diamondbacks, the Dodgers, and the Padres. None of these teams seems to really be an issue though, despite the fact that Arizona is currently leading the division. No, the Giants remain the team that Rockies fans love to detest, for whatever reason.
Funny how things change in the course of 4 years. In 2008, Rockies fans were nice and cocky coming off of a NL Pennant and a lot of future coming up to supplant that current staff. Guys like Ian Stewart, Dexter Fowler, Ubaldo Jimenez, Franklin Morales, and newfound Ace Jeff Francis? These were the guys who would keep the team in contention for years to come. While we're in the wayback machine, the Rockies' biggest hatred was directed toward 2 players: Eric Byrnes and Justin Upton, AKA Punkton.
If you recall, it was the 7th inning of Game 1 of the NLCS. Nobody out, Chris Snyder on 2B, and Justin Upton is hit by Jeff Francis. Next batter, Augie Ojeda, on a 1-2 count, grounds to Garrett Atkins at 3B, who starts the 5-4-3 double play. Justin Upton is called out at 2B after a ridiculous takeout slide that was ultimately ruled as interference. The fans at Chase Field didn't like that call much, as evidenced by the sheer amount of trash they proceeded to rain down upon the field. But that takeout slide forever dubbed Justin Upton, one of the best young talents in the National League, as Punkton.
Byrnes, on the other hand, went ahead and made that fabulous faux pas, claiming that despite the Rockies' series lead, the Diamondbacks were in fact outplaying the Rockies.
Nowadays though, hatred has shifted. Cody "Boss" Ross, Tim "Freak" Lincecum, and Matt "Seriously How Does This Guy Perpetually Have The Rockies' Number?" Cain now represent the biggest threats to the Rockies. Scoreboard watching involves seeing if the Giants lose. Yeah, we're good about watching the NL West in general, but we don't really care what the Dodgers are doing. We don't care if the Padres held on in the 9th. We pretty much don't care if Josh Collmenter is having a good season or not. Did Chris Young hit the walkoff? Are the Dbacks still holding their division lead? Based on the typical west coast scoreboard watching in the game wrap threads, I'd say our eyes are more on the Giants.
It makes sense, too. The Giants just won the World Series. The Giants and Rockies have been exchanging blows for the past 2 seasons. There was that whole debacle with the Giants' broadcasters accusing the Rockies of cheating and Tim Lincecum not fully understanding what was meant by a "juiced ball" and getting caught on camera not understanding things. Of course the Giants and Rockies are going to be at each others' throats. But how long will it be relevant?
Let's take a very quick look down the road. The Giants have traded most of their farm away for the roster in the current state that it is. Meanwhile, the Diamondbacks have been slowly moving their major league pieces for strong prospects, and after the past draft, their farm is looking downright dangerous. A lot of this division and how it shapes up will depend on: the Rockies' current depth shaping up; the Dodgers' divorce and how that reshapes their organization; how long the current Giants' MLB team can keep them in contention (and what flexibility they have in Free agency); if the Padres' ability to build pitchers from the very earth itself can continue keeping the team an ever-present pitching threat; and ultimately, the Diamondbacks' ever strengthening farm.
Maybe it's time we start taking the Diamondbacks a bit more seriously.
Armstrong makes this note in his post-Dodgers series, pre-Dbacks series blog post:
"It’s great to have a guy like him coming to the club and helping us. The guy is here for a reason. We understand he’s not trying to be a superhero. That’s now what we’re looking for. He just needs to play his game and help the club."
In his career, Kouzmanoff is a career 93 wRC+ batter and a +6 3B (per UZR/150). This suggests that he's 7% below the average MLB bat for his career, and saves 6 runs more than the average fielder over the course of a season. He's been worth as much as 3 Wins Above Replacement in a season as recent as last season with Oakland. If Kouz can rebound to even Mark Ellis batting lines, he'd be a positive player at 3B.
Minor League Notes, August 27, 2011 - Minor League Ball
You might have missed this the other night, but Tyler Matzek struck out 13 batters, walked only 2, allowed 2 hits and 1 run over 7 innings against the Hagerstown Suns. After his miserable start to 2011 in Modesto, Matzek appears to have turned a MAJOR corner in his development. I know the Rockies have invested a pile in this kid, but seriously, pay this kid's pitching instructor to stay with the team. I don't care if the kid is being coddled. I don't care if the kid is being babysat. If he can turn in excellent MLB performances because he has his coach around, it's worth the extra whatever dozen thousand dollar expense his personal handler will require.
I'll say it again: If we get another stud to stand alongside Pomeranz, I don't care what it looks like and what critics say. Continue kicking ass, Tyler, prove everyone wrong, and give the Rockies a PomMatz two-headed dragon.
I know this is from yesterday, but:
So it was that Jim Tracy has scrapped his initial plan to have Iannetta catch this afternoon.
HAHAHAHAHA yeah he totally was gonna start Iannetta 2 of 3 games. That's totally Tracy's MO, starting players he actively hates.
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I just don't hate the D-Backs like I hate the Giants.
In fact, I’m kinda-sorta……..fond of them?
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Aug 29, 2011 7:44 AM MDT reply actions
But will you be once they're on top again?
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 7:45 AM MDT up reply actions
Who knows...
I could potentially see myself becoming envious, which in turn, could develop into hatred.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Aug 29, 2011 7:56 AM MDT up reply actions
agree
Only through the envy door for now.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2011 8:23 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
no it's anger that leads to hate
you’re good with envy.
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
2012: get ready for White Pomz!
I kind of like what they have done for the last 2 years
they should have asked a bit more for Haren/they never should have given up so many prospects after 07, but lately they have done an awesome job. here is a short list of players traded out of AZ since 07. Carlos Gonzalez, Brett Anderson, Carlos Quentin, Alberto Callaspo, Max Scherzer, Mark Reynolds and I am sure I am missing some big ones. Can you imagine facing the D-Backs with an Upton, Cargo, Quentin OF? Chase Field would set a HR record
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I hated them through 08.
I don’t anymore.
But I don’t like them, no not at all.
This year sucks.
by prettyinpurple on Aug 29, 2011 8:54 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I still really don't like the Dbacks
But there is no level that matches the hate I have for the Giants. It wasn’t always this way. They have a super cool ballpark, a nice city which I like, Timmy was a player I really really liked and had always wished he was a Rockie. But then the humidor BS came along, they began annoying me by winning in really stupid ways and well Brian Wilson.
I’d rather see the Dbacks win the division than the Giants. But as long as YoungPunkton are on the Dbacks I will continue to dislike them. Oh and Stephew Drew. What the hell? Why does he hate us so? It’s almost Loney-like.
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i get this same feeling
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
2012: get ready for White Pomz!
Can we hire Crash Davis to take care of Matzek
he brings a lot of veternness with him..
and maybe Susan Sarandon???
I bet Sarandon would help as much as a hitting coach
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2011 8:20 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
eva amurri
might be more of a help these days..
but Sarandon brought it in Bull Durham – and many other movies!!
So are you saying..
Matzek needs to breathe through his eyelids and wear women’s underpants?
by Charlie77 on Aug 29, 2011 1:26 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
In case you weren't terrified of the Dbacks before
they have this Tyler Skaggs kid who pitched the following line as a 20 year old in AA last night:
7.0 IP, 1 R, 0 ER, 3 H, 12 K, 0 BB
He has a 66:12 K/BB ratio, and a 2.18 ERA in AA this year.
Also, he’s 20.
And many consider him their fourth best pitching prospect.
Some days, I feel like I’ve accidentally entered the Church of Tulowitzki on Baseball Easter.
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I for one
don’t appreciate another team taking large steps forward during what is believed to be our window of contention. Everything I read about them is pitching, pitching, pitching. Do they have hitting to carry them?
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
Goldschmidt is already up
and Borchering is having an okay year, in A+
Definitely ruled by their top flite pitching though. Best in the game.
They could have a rotation of Kennedy, Hudson, Skaggs, Parker, Bauer by mid-2012. Elite level of talent.
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I'm not convinced about Goldscmidt
and his strikeout rate, though I guess he doesn’t have to be awesome to really help that team…
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
neither am I
but a core of Upton, Drew, Young, Montero, and that future pitching staff should be very competitive long term.
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yea
they just need to be good enough…. dammit
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
Meh on Drew and Young
if drew comes back he should be decent. I would take our core any day. Don’t get me wrong if we could get Drew to play second here I would do backflips, but he did have a .312 wOBA when he went down, not quite as good as Ellis .322 wOBA with us and not significantly better than EY2 has done this year.
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Upton is a potential superstar having a breakout year (and locked up through 2015)
and the other three are above average at their (premium) positions. Plenty to be concerned about.
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Right but Drew has 5 full season in MLB and is signed with DBAcks
through 2013 he as wRC+ of 72, 102, 88, 113, 89 during that time and he is hurt. If he comes back healthy next year he is either a slightly below average or slightly above average hitter who has a career -17 UZR at SS but let’s call him an average defender.
They have him and Young for two more years, that leaves Montero who with his .342 wOBA as a 27YO really isn’t that different than Iannetta’s .347wOBA as a 28YO. Montero is also about to enter his 3rd arbitration year.
So you have 4 hitters on the whole team under the age of 27 RF Upton 23YO (legit star), LF Parra 24YO (nice piece but too soon to say) 1B Goldscmidt 23YO (to soon to say but could be an average 1B), and Cowgill 24(count me as doubtful) The have had good seasons(really half seasons) out of Ryan Roberts, WIllie Bloomquist, Josh Collementer, and Joe Saunders I think that in 3 years they will likely be an exellent pitching staff, but beyond Upton I don’t really see anything I would be affraid of.
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I think that in 3 years they will likely be an excellent pitching staff
Daniel Hudson may be their #4 or #5 starter as soon as next Fall, with two more top pitching prospects on the way. Terrifying.
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I doubt very seriously that they get that much out of their prospects
Bauer is nasty, but we have no idea how well Skaggs, or Parker pitch in an extreme run environment. We also don’t know that they can stay healthy, to look at their top 4 pitching prospects and think that more than 2 or them make a big splash by 2013 is a bit optimistic.
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I know this isn't the point you're making, but I wanted to point it out as a contrast
Matzek is nasty, but we have no idea how well White, or Pomeranz pitch in an extreme run environment.
We’re going to have to give their system some credit for prepping their prospects for playing in Chase just like we give credit to ours for prepping to play in Coors.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 9:22 AM MDT up reply actions
I assume they will but I would put the same Caveat on our
MiLB stars. EY2 killed MiLB 12%% in AA, Ian Stewart was the #4 prospect in all MLB. I hope they rush all those guys to MLB, I hope they all burn bright then get out of the NL west, but I wouldn’t bet on it.
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This is also a franchise that drafted and developed
Helton, Holliday, Tulowitzki, Hawpe, Atkins, Pierre, and Iannetta all solidly above average to super star level players. We have had our share of misses but so have everyone else(remember the 05 Braves?) just because many of them will be no good doesn’t mean they all will.
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Parker was a dark horse rotation candidate this spring
and carries elite GB numbers.
Bauer will join the rotation this week after running roughshod through the minors with good GB numbers and elite K numbers.
Skaggs is 20 and has had one of the best seasons in the minors this year with great GB and K numbers.
You’re severely underestimating how close this talent is to MLB impact level. Combine it with very solid pitchers in Hudson and Kennedy, and it’s downright fearsome.
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True but the same could be said for a Chi Cubs
MiLB rotation that included Prior, Wood and Zambrano. Give me guys like Nicasio or Chacin who have done it against MLB starters any day.
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Not sure where to begin with this argument, seeing as you contradict yourself.
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How is it contradictory to say that prospects are great
but they burn out at too high a rate to start crowning any division winners based off of what someone is doing in AA?
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a) that Cubs rotation WAS incredible, and should have led them to a WS title (if they weren’t the Cubs)
b) you use Nicasio as a sure thing, when he was anything but just a few months ago. Any of the three Arizona prospects I listed above are much closer to a “sure thing” than Nicasio was this season.
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Right about the Cubs but the attrition rate on
pitchers is what I was pointing to. Nicasio is far from a sure thing, but I would take 70 innings of 3.39 xFIP ball at the MLB level over any success had at AA. I could be wrong Bauer, Skaggs, Parker, Hudson and any combination of the rest could dominate MLB for a decade, but untill any of them do it at the MLB level I have a giant grain of salt I will take them with. Good major league pitchers come from good minor league pitchers true, but I would be more afraid of the Giants in 2014 than I am of the snakes.
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So if Arizona offered Trevor Bauer for Juan Nicasio, you would say no?!?!
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2011 9:47 AM MDT up reply actions
If Nicasio hadn't been injured?
I would have to think about it. I like Bauer but I would always be cautious losing anyone with Juan’s control for a team like the Rockies. His numbers at Coors were very encouraging, as were his first five innings at Yankees Stadium, and his last couple starts. In his final five starts Nicasio had almost 5/1 K/BB and only seemed to be getting better.
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Wow.
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by Muzia on Aug 29, 2011 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bauer is great in MiLB
So was Jamey Wright and Andrew Miller I could keep going on but I think you get my point.
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and MLB pitchers can get a broken neck on the mound.
It’s a moot point.
Bauer will be in the majors this week. He has true #1 stuff with multiple developed pitches, and is rated as an A talent, and you would have to think about trading Nicasio (a likely #3) for him because of this three months of decent MLB production?
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so were justin verlander and tim lincecum
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Yep so wait and see AZ has added a
lot of young pitching in the last 2 years. So have we, and I will take our latin developement of pitchers over just about any MLB team.
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our latin program may very well be the best
if our amateur draft scouts were half as good as our latin scouts, we’d be a scary team right now
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Got it in one
although I really hope that Herrera is the type of hitters we are going to be signing now.
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please mean rosell please mean rosell please mean rosell
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 12:53 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hah! boy thank goodness I was
more specific when I was blowing out my birthday candles
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phew
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 12:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Imagine if I had left it vague asking
for 10-15 more prospects of Herrera caliber
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enjoy the basement for the next decade
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 1:05 PM MDT up reply actions
Come on a team full of
Herrera’s and Adrian Gonzalez almost won a division last year
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Low A ball needs reserves too...
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by Junction Rox on Aug 29, 2011 1:08 PM MDT up reply actions
but I would be more afraid of the Giants in 2014 than I am of the snakes.
Make that 2012 and I still don’t agree with you.
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The Giants have a lot more money to
play with, even if Sabean may be the wrong guy to spend it.
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Just waint until he offers Beltran 4 years and Vogelsong 3 years this offseason.
That is a sinking ship with plenty of deadwood.
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Maybe but Belt, Posey, Panda
is a pretty good core of hitters to go with that staff.
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That's not where their success has come from, though
Their best players are the ones that they’ve developed internally (Lincecum, Cain, MadBum, Romo, Posey, Panda, and presumably Belt eventually). They’ve had success with scrap heap guys like Burrell, Huff, Ross, Vogelsong, etc., but the core that we worry about going forward was built from within, and they’ve really been horrible with big $ free agents when they’ve tried it (Zito leaps to mind).
I’m not writing them off, but with Sabean’s history, I’d honestly be more worried if he was keeping their prospects intact than I am seeing him dealing them away and sending signals that he plans to try to buy what they need going forward. Also, a good chunk of the $ they have to spend is going to end up in the pockets of their current stars. Keeping that staff together, especially, isn’t going to be cheap…
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by Junction Rox on Aug 29, 2011 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions
True but with that park and that
coaching staff they will have pitching. If they signed Reyes this year(something that with Rowand and Zito coming to the end of their contracts they may do ) That leaves them getting their usual sCrappy production from their OF to become a decent offense.
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they may sign reyes
but if they do, they’ll have to go even more scrap-heap, because ross and torres are serious non-tender candidates
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look at our roster 3 years ago
the point is that with the pitching staff they can supposedly produce, they don’t need too much offense and can get by with an offensive core less than ours. Unless we strike gold on our pitching prospects/JDLR’s return and find an awesome power bat for a corner OF spot or 3b, we’ll in the thick of it with the DBacks (and probably by 2 years from now the Padres).
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
why do you expect them to "strike gold" with their pitching prospects
but at the same time worry that we will not? Our core of Tulowitzki, Cargo, Iannetta, Fowler, Smith is considerably better than their Upton, Montero, Drew, Parra and Young. Their current MLB staff and Bullpen is not considerably better than ours when healthy.
Our hitters are younger, controlled for longer, with much higher upside. Add that Wheeler, Blackmon, Rosario, and Arenado will likely be joining the team around the time Drew and Young are gone, and their Payroll/Attendance makes them limited buyers in the FA market.
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I think the issue is just that
they’re a respectable team as is and they have a crop of pitchers who aren’t merely good, but appear extremely good, waiting in the wings. Whether they burn out or not is a different issue. We have a respectable offensive core (though clearly it’s missing something since it’s been our Achilles heel the past few seasons) and some solid pitching.
While I think (and hope) we improve as a team, I don’t see us having the dynamite players to not have to worry about a surging DBacks team, a fading but competitive Giants team, or even the Padres who in a few short years may be back in the mix. I’m optimistic about the prospects you mentioned but none of them appear quite as good as the three DBacks prospects (save maybe Arenado – but that low walk rate will always hold him back unless he’s hitting .330).
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
The thing about the Rockies is that they only need to get
lucky on one maybe 2 FA acquistions/ Minor league talent developing. They have a lot of talented hitters in place almost all young enough to have decent upside. If we get a Ryan Roberts/2010 Kelly Johnson and a 2009 Jason Marquis this offseason you have to assume we will be back in the thick of it.
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I completely agree
but that only backs up the original assertion that the DBacks will be the team to beat in this division. They’re leading this division right now and have a strong crop of players. We’re talking about getting lucky with a player or two to ‘’get back in the thick of it", y’know?
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
We will be in the thick of it regardless
just that we need what every team not named Boston, Philly or NYY needs a bit of luck and a healthy team.
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roger that
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
Drew will bounce back.
Diamondbacks will be a force for years to come with that farm.
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by CentralCaliRox on Aug 29, 2011 8:59 AM MDT up reply actions
no, that's tyler Matzek's resume
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2011 8:21 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm in the minority here
but I don’t want the Dbacks to win the division. One of the reasons is I would rather have the WS champ to come from the NL West and I feel the Giants have the better team for the postseason.
The 2nd reason is if anyone other than the Giants were to win the division, it was going to be either the Rox or the Dodgers. I’m okay losing the division to the Giants. I am not okay losing the division to a team thought to have little to no chance entering the year.
It just reinforces how bad a season this has been and how we couldn’t get all facets of the game to click at the same time since May.
by osierra11 on Aug 29, 2011 8:14 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't hate the Giants
or their fans. I don’t like Jon Miller and any other Giant fan who has a paranoia with the humidor.
Timmy also has paranoia with the humidor.
Where does that place him in your continuum?
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Timmy needs to change his medication.
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I can't stand Tim
since he seems to be completely clueless on how a humidor affects the baseballs. It’s obvious to Tim we put in a spongier ball in the late innings for that late inning magic.
I think the SR FATS partnership will lend itself more to a friendly rivalry
If they put a humidor in Chase (which I’m convinced wasn’t added this year because they had the ASG and HR Derby), that will only build on that friendly rivalry. Humidor Brothers Unite!
In the meantime, the Giants are all generally asses who win games they shouldn’t and have obviously sold their everlasting souls. They’re just so easy to hate.
Of course, get a couple guys on the DBacks to say/do jerky things toward the Rockies, and that could all change.
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Yeah, a big part of why I hate the Giants is that they are too lucky.
It’s not fair. They aren’t very much better than the Rockies, and last year I’m pretty sure the Rockies were actually a better team. It’s frustrating to see an enemy get more than their fair share of good luck. I suspect this is why a lot of other people hate the Gints too.
We recorded, but I'm not sure what Greg's conflict is
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions
I'll tell you what I've told fans of other teams
Every Diamondbacks win means we’re one step closer to not seeing Brian Wilson in the playoffs, and I think that’s a win for everyone, right?
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by kishi on Aug 29, 2011 9:54 AM MDT via iPhone app reply actions 2 recs
good point
at this point i despise the Giants more than the D-Bags, so the lesser of two evils I guess.
Agree
Part of the reason I loathe the Giants so much is because of Brian Wilson. He just really bothers me. And their fans bother me. I hate the panda hats…
by RoxBackyardTalent on Aug 29, 2011 10:10 AM MDT up reply actions
I wish we had an attention grabbing, shut down closer
and a pudgy, but talented 3b who made people wear goofy hats.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
To be fair
Stewie, Wiggy, Nelson, Lopez, Kouz and the rest of our 3B parade aren’t pudgy (for the most part), but they have inspired fans to at least consider wearing a certain style of hats (paper sacks can be considered hats, right?).
And while he wasn’t out closer at the time, Betty has been close to shut down for a while now, and certainly was an attention grabber for at least one postgame show…
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by Junction Rox on Aug 29, 2011 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions
sigh
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
Oddly enough I don't hate Giants for the most part because
they really do love their stupid team and they do know baseball. And they have some clever marketing gimmicks with the stupid beards and the panda hats, which I think does help the fans to connect more with the team because you can play dress up at the ballpakr. How many Dinger heads do you see at Coors Field (thank God none)? I’ve seen kids with purple mohawks and that’s about it.
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Corey Dickerson is the featured prospect on Baseball America today (subscription required)
It’s possible that Dickerson’s home-road split isn’t an indication that his numbers will deflate once he leaves Asheville, but there is a troubling similarity to his numbers and another former Asheville star. Back in 2005, Joe Koshansky…
All you need to know. If anything, Koshansky has slightly better numbers at home than Dickerson, and the splits are eerily identical.
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Damn, whats that guy up to these days anyway?
I thought he did a great job filling in for Todd… you know, for someone that isn’t Todd
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kinda sad
he was always my favorite prospect in BBM before we let him go. dude MASHED in like 2011+
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believe it or not
I tried converting JoeKo to a 3B in some OOTP league.
Didn’t work.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 12:54 PM MDT up reply actions
I saw Ryan Shealy in a AAA game this year..
And it felt strange, because I remember the Giants IBB him three times in a game at Coors because they feared him so much.
by Charlie77 on Aug 29, 2011 1:36 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
It's cause for concern
But, hell, at least he is mashing at home.
By the way, I came to the realization today that Dickerson was the highest drafted player in 2009 who we failed to sign. Thats quite amazing.
We signed everybody in the first 28 rounds?
That is either incredibly impressive, or we played it insanely safe. Actually, it’s impressive either way.
And then we came back the next year and let Dickerson know there’s no getting away from us….
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by Junction Rox on Aug 29, 2011 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions
2009
(and 2010 for that matter) were by far the 2 best drafts the organization has had, despite the struggles of Matzek.
We'll go with "impressive", then
I thought that was the case, but didn’t really feel like going back over the list this morning to refresh my memory…
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by Junction Rox on Aug 29, 2011 11:32 AM MDT up reply actions
What did Matt Holliday's splits look like?
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And a bit about Matzek further down.
I’m not too high on Dickerson because of the splits. #16 PuRP on my current list
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by CentralCaliRox on Aug 29, 2011 1:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Why does everyone insist Jim Tracy hates CDI?
Because he doesn’t play him sometimes? Or are there statements he’s made? Many people here seem to take this viewpoint for granted and I’ve never seen evidence of it…
@bix783
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And apologies if this rips open some old wounds or something.
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/gets coffee
/makes popcorn
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by SDcat09 on Aug 29, 2011 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I might need one of those
after coffee and popcorn….they don’t go well together
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Should have stuck with your morning beer. :-)
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Uh.
It’s morning vodka. Sheesh, get it right foagie. Beer in the morning is bad form.
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Amen
can’t even get out of bed without that
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
When I think of beer I think Of a friendly purring kitty....
When I think of vodka I think of snarling claws out HAAWPEEE Kitty.
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No that would be tequilaCat
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That must be cheap tequila Kitty
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
I'd call this conversation creepy
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions
I guess we pick our battles
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 12:54 PM MDT up reply actions
I could go for a Mary right about now
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions
August:
Alfonzo, 13 games played, .228 wOBA, 28 wRC+
Iannetta, 16 games played, .350 wOBA, 112 wRC+
There is literally nothing that Alfonzo does better than Iannetta, yet he has started 45% of games since being called up.
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Jim Tracy : "Alfonzo takes profession at bats"
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*professional
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Not sure what this means
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"Professional" = "guy getting paid"
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by Junction Rox on Aug 29, 2011 11:32 AM MDT up reply actions
Yes I know what professional means
I just wasn’t getting his joke.
But thanks!
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I think that WAS the joke...
“Why should I care that the guy getting at bats is getting paid?”
The explanation/payoff ratio on this one is getting bad enough you might think it was one of mine….
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by Junction Rox on Aug 29, 2011 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions
LOL. I'm so confused
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I was riffing on Tracy always saying
that “so and so” is a professional ball player and takes professional at bats, which I think he actually did say about Alfonzo.
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Yes, but only the ones that Tracy says are professional
seem to get some run.
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This is the summation
Miguel Olivo has been the only catcher whose bat has been better than Iannetta’s for more than like a month. Torrealba had flashes, but overall, Iannetta’s been the better catcher. The hatred accusations come from the fact that Tracy seems to find any excuse to start a crappy backup way more than a crappy backup should be started, and at Iannetta’s expense.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions
So if next year's catchers are CDI and Rosario, what will Jim do to annoy us?
I’d be happy with either one of them (or at least, my purple-tinted crystal ball is).
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by glaucophane on Aug 29, 2011 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions
Please welcome Ty Wigginton, emergency catcher
And by “emergency” I mean “starts 65% of games”…
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by Junction Rox on Aug 29, 2011 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions
Wait, is Wigginton really a back up emergency catcher?
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"Professional baseball player"
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by glaucophane on Aug 29, 2011 11:40 AM MDT up reply actions
Jonny Herrera?
"Are they called the Rockies because they rock?" - 7 y.o.
by glaucophane on Aug 29, 2011 11:41 AM MDT up reply actions
EY Jr?
"Are they called the Rockies because they rock?" - 7 y.o.
by glaucophane on Aug 29, 2011 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions
Yes...
EY Jr gets professional at bats too. Be also can run faster than either the Fonz or Wiggy and can get to passed balls faster.
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by Roxman on Aug 29, 2011 2:51 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
"Jim, is this game an emergency too?"
“Yes Drew, we feel that we are in emergency need of Ty Wigginton’s bat for the seventh game in a row.”
If Rosario is playing terribly and getting the majority of the starts at Iannetta's expense
I’ll be upset.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions
Could totally see that happening
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Aug 29, 2011 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Sometimes he makes the crappy backup into a crappy starter
at which point his need to play the backup seems to diminsh….
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by Junction Rox on Aug 29, 2011 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions
and he sent him to colo.spgs. to work on his "framing" and calling games supposedly.
In all things, it is better to hope than despair.
think alanna would ask jim a question..
about on base average, and OPS??
i’m trying to keep it simple, so jim might have some chance of comprehending it…
yeah, OBP is way over tracy's head
i sincerely doubt he understands any statistics at all, even the simplest
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Worst part of managing I've ever seen.
A week after Tracy’s plan to rest CDI on Friday and let him play Sat/Sun failed, he DID THE SAME THING THIS WEEK.
And the same freaking crap happened.
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Aug 29, 2011 1:19 PM MDT up reply actions
He's doing it intentionally so he constantly has that "well if anything happens we just don't play him on Sunday" card in his deck
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 2:27 PM MDT up reply actions
For me its not so much that Tracy hating CDI
its more that Tracy is a functional mentally challenged individual.
Get well soon Juan.
by Thnikkaman on Aug 29, 2011 10:37 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
So the wife asks why the *** isn't Ianetta playing today?
Uh……
It’s Sunday….
Tracy is still the manager….
Same reason I guess that Wiggy is playing 1st base….
by Cheeseheadroxfan on Aug 29, 2011 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions
Against a RHP no less
With Giambi on the bench. That they won yesterday is a miracle.
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Giambi's role seems to have shifted again
from the one in which he has been quite productive (backup 1B), back to that of the rarely-used, late-inning pinch-hitter.
And I can certainly see why. He has two PHs in August, which doubled his season total and sent his averaging soaring to .154.
by Northsider1964 on Aug 29, 2011 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions
Wasn't Giambi supposed to be Helton's backup?
He only gets a home run every start he’s had.
Uh, yeah….
It’s Sunday…..
Tracy is still the manager….
Let’s cash in the rest of the season….
Instead of trying out young talent, let’s import some old talent….
by Cheeseheadroxfan on Aug 29, 2011 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions
The reason is that CDI caught an extra-inning game in the heat on Sat.
So, with the Rox out of contention, resting him on another hot day Sun. made perfect sense.
I do agree Alfonzo starts too much, but I can’t fault a mgr for sitting a catcher for a hot day game after going extras the day before.
2011 Rockies -- what the hell?
so why start Alfonzo on Friday, after an off day?
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And after starting Alfonzo on Wednesday?
Iannetta has now started 1 of the last 4 games…
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by Junction Rox on Aug 29, 2011 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions
one game in five days
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2011 12:34 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
that's just stupid
he’s been like the 4th most valuable catcher this year and he doesn’t even qualify for the batting title. so stupid.
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Also he started Fonz as the cleanup hitter..
CDI doesn’t have any starts there this year.
by Charlie77 on Aug 29, 2011 1:44 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I think that was in order to break up the left handed bats.
CDI doesn’t have those special skilz.
I think this perfectly sums up my thoughts on Tracy/Managers
maybe managers really don’t do that much in terms of W/L (though I think they do more than we give them credit for). But if they don’t do much, and their job in terms of on-field duties (ignoring managing egos, handling difficult press conferences etc etc) is relatively simple, then why on earth stick with someone who makes boneheaded decisions regarding the simple part of his job?
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
I thought it was funny when I heard one of the announcers say
that in BP on Friday, Iannetta hit one out of the stadium. But he didn’t get to start.
.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions
who is that? Carl Rogers?
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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You haven't seen Giambi out of uniform before?
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by Junction Rox on Aug 29, 2011 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Exactly.
you should’ve been in the GT with me. I was pissed about this
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by CentralCaliRox on Aug 29, 2011 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't mean to make it sound like "Start Iannetta every day no matter what!"
But come on, Ron Washington is starting Mike Napoli everywhere he possibly can as often as he can, and they’re in Arlington.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions
So trade Tracy for Washington.
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I could dig it
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions
While you're at it trade napoli for Iannetta
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I'd do that too
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions
100+ damn degrees.
And CDI can’t play in 90 degrees two days in a row? Gimme a break.
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by CentralCaliRox on Aug 29, 2011 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions
Umm, why would we pay Matzek's hitting instructor to stay with the team?
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by Junction Rox on Aug 29, 2011 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions
Baseball Prospectus still favors the Giants for the Division (52.6%)
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/odds/
That’s the only NL race left according to their numbers.
Bleed purple
It says 53% right now
I’m really curious, BP, what’s changed in the playoff race in the past hour?
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division is 52.6, playoffs is 53
because there’s pretty much no chance the braves aren’t the wild card
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At least part of that is because
BP sees the DBacks as playing over their heads by nearly 10 games. They think the Dodgers, Giants, and Rockies are all nearly equal.
By the way
We are dangerously close to losing protection on our pick next year. Damn it guys, stop winning in the face of adversity.
OT: Katrina 6 year anniversary today
hard to believe it’s been that long :(. And hard to believe it’s almost 10 years since 9/11. Time flies.
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Hopefully nobody botches the Irene relief effort
so badly that they end up as rain-delay filler on KOA.
by Northsider1964 on Aug 29, 2011 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions
Burn!
You don’t enjoy the sensible discussions moderated by Michael Brown? Loads of credibility.
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by BittenAnkles on Aug 29, 2011 2:28 PM MDT up reply actions
From a purely aesthetic standpoint
It’s just terrible radio.
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Beat LA!
I know that the Giants are most hated here, but personally, the Dodgers are still at the top of my hated-teams list.
I’ve given up on playoff dreams, but we can (and should) still finish ahead of LA.
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I'll drink to that...
pass the dos XX’s
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I don't always beat the Giants,
But when I do, I prefer their playoff chances to be on the line.
/the most interesting team in the world.
FFFFFFFFFFF.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 29, 2011 11:58 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree
Dodgers have beat on the Rox for years & historically have been the “Yankees of the West” in terms of media exposure & payroll.
They’ll recover from the temporary McCourt mismanagement and will be the team to beat again.
2011 Rockies -- what the hell?
Per Heyman: Street cleared waivers
Anything?
Please?
FFFFFFFFFFF.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 29, 2011 11:52 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Rangers and Cardinals shored up their bullpens at the trading deadline.
I’m not sure any other contenders have a particular weakness in their bullpen.
But, he was a ROY!
Plus, he has a killer out pitch
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I'm just going to go ahead and say it
Grant Brisbee makes me hate the Giants less
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Grant Brisbee is the best thing about or related to the Giants.
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by SDcat09 on Aug 29, 2011 12:14 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey Cat -
Willie Mays called and would like to talk to you about awesome things from the Giants.
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grant > willie
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My favorite thing about the Giants
is that they beat the stupid undefeated Patriots to win the Superbowl.
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by Resolution on Aug 29, 2011 12:46 PM MDT up reply actions 3 recs
that's the truth
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 12:55 PM MDT up reply actions
oh and Juan Marichal is on line 2
says something about a leg kick
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 12:55 PM MDT up reply actions
Eric Stephen makes me hate the Dodgers less too
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2011 12:32 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree wholeheartedly
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Lulz Corz update
2011
Cargo
60g Home .332/.404/602 1.006 OPS 15HR
53g Road .257/322/449 .771OPS 9HR
JUpton
65 Home .355/.425/.645 1.070 OPS 16HR
68 Road .241/.318/.432 .750 OPS 9HR
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Take the names off and I couldn't tell you who was who.
Glad we got the one on the top though.
Get well soon Juan.
I just stole this as a quiz for another board
where somebody linked a bleacher report (heh) article last night about what an average player CarGo is based on his H/R splits and poor UZR….
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by Junction Rox on Aug 29, 2011 1:06 PM MDT up reply actions
oh yeah, time for a party
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 12:56 PM MDT up reply actions
This is not Carlos Gonzalez
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I posted this a few days ago, but it seems we've all forgotten how this works
for a non-CO player, this would incite a discussion about all of the pitcher parks in the NL west plus the quality pitching of the other teams (Kershaw?!?! Lincecum?!?!), so therefore Upton is totally capable and deserving, he’s just facing an uphill battle on the road.
For a CO player this would incite a discussion about all of the pitcher parks in the NL west plus the quality pitching of the other teams (Kershaw?!?! Lincecum?!?!), so therefore it’s abundantly clear the CO player can’t handle ‘real’ hitting environments.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 29, 2011 1:05 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
We should take a page out of the Marlins' book
And hire Alvin Dark to replace Tracy. Any time Al Dark strolled out the the mound to remove Al White, we would have a full-blown Abbott and Costello routine on our hands.
by Northsider1964 on Aug 29, 2011 1:45 PM MDT up reply actions
What day is today?
Its Alex’s birthday
So blow out the candles
And lets have some cake
Get well soon Juan.
This is another good thing about the Giants
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starting on his birthday? Cool.
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 1:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Maybe he can get some pointers from Helton on how to perform on your birthday
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Hit Bombs!?
I mean, that would be really cool
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by SurfaceThought on Aug 29, 2011 1:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Based on his last start
I do not see a great likelihood of that happening…
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by Junction Rox on Aug 29, 2011 1:17 PM MDT up reply actions
I didn't pay attention to him in the box... did he look particularly bad?
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by SurfaceThought on Aug 29, 2011 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions
At the plate?
Horrible. Lol
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by CentralCaliRox on Aug 29, 2011 1:22 PM MDT up reply actions
He looked like he hadn't batted since high school
Which he probably hadn’t.
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That would be the kind way to describe him
But like free says, it’s probably not that surprising when you think about it…
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by Junction Rox on Aug 29, 2011 1:28 PM MDT up reply actions
And he also starts today, IIRC
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by CentralCaliRox on Aug 29, 2011 1:22 PM MDT up reply actions
It's like nobody even rea......
oh, never mind. :-)
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by Junction Rox on Aug 29, 2011 1:29 PM MDT up reply actions
Right now the biggest rivals for Rockies fans are the Rockies
You have to build a .500+ team before you go worrying about the other teams in the division. Until the Rockies get to that point, we have to consider them back in “development mode” whatever the expectations used to be.
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So here is a short list of small MLB transactions I have advocated(a least mentioned)
Alberto Callaspo: .280/.353/.367 I wanted this guy bad his defensive capability and above average bat would look good at 2B(ditto on his new teammate Itzuris) Cost:1 A+ decent pitcher Will Smith, one bad Vet Sean O`Sullivan
Wilson Betemit:.290/.345/.419 Basically Wiggy Cost: 1 Million dollars on a one year contract
Mike Napoli:.295/.389/.589 Untill this year basically Iannetta with more power and worse defense Cost:One awfull contract on a slightly above average aging vet, then one veteran middle reliever with “closer experience”
Josh Willingham: .249/.331/.482 not the most impressive line but still good for a 123 OPS+ and his .888 OPS against LHP would look good in our lineup Cost: Two decent prospects a fireballing Bullpen piece, and an old for his level CF.
any or all of these guys were certainly available last season hopefully we start using some of our minor league depth to start pursuing depth/talent like these ones
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Also Mark Reynolds
Although a lineup of Napoli, Willingham, Reynolds, and Iannetta might be too many k’s for my TTO loving heart to handle.
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imagine that group in Philly in that bandbox, or Cinci for that matter
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If you seriously want Mark Reynolds
Just call up Stewart and play him every day, come Hell or high water. You’ll get better defense and I’ll bet the difference in offensive production wouldn’t be much.
by Northsider1964 on Aug 29, 2011 2:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Mark Reynolds has a 142 wRC+ on the road this year
if Ian could do that he wouls be playing every day
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anomalous
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
Play Stewart every day
and I think Mark Reynolds is pretty much what you would get. And while that’s a crying shame for a #1 pick, I would probably prefer it over Kouzmanoff.
by Northsider1964 on Aug 29, 2011 3:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Well, Stewart can field circles around Reynolds, don't forget that.
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 3:29 PM MDT up reply actions
this is also true
reynolds is awful with the glove
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indeed
i’ve long felt that 2009 mark reynolds is pretty much stewart’s ceiling offensively
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Yikes, are we phrasing that as a bad thing?
Stewart’s glove and a near-.900 OPS would have me pushing old ladies down stairs
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 3:31 PM MDT up reply actions
I think strikeout machines are more costly in the NL
because there’s less chance for the bottom of the order to pick up for them.
But otherwise, yeah, just cutting Stewart loose as a Me-Swing-Hard-and-Hit-Ball-Far type would not be any worse than what we’re getting now.
Though I hasten to add that Stewart’s chances of replicating Reynolds would probably be better on a team that’s 28 games out of 1st place and harbors no illusions about getting any closer.
by Northsider1964 on Aug 29, 2011 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm thinking that really crappy contact hitters
(though I’m not convinced Stewart is totally crappy) just have a harder time in CO given the ball-movement fluctuations so it’s hard to get in a solid rhythm…
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I think massive Ks are just harder to stomach at Coors
Because your chances of making something positive happen are so high when you do make contact.
Personally I just hate watching an oaf like Reynolds drag his caveman club up to home plate and start hacking. But personal tastes aside, there’s no denying he’s more productive than a whole lot of the guys who are impersonating MLB 3rd basemen these days.
by Northsider1964 on Aug 29, 2011 3:48 PM MDT up reply actions
that's a good point too
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oh i wasn't saying it would be bad at all
2009 reynolds was a boss; he even stole 24 bases that year. i would kill to have 2009 mark reynolds at 3B for us
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that's the freaking truth
Mark Reynolds was the three-true-outcomiest player like ever that year
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 3:46 PM MDT up reply actions
that would be fantastic
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by Resolution on Aug 29, 2011 3:37 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
agreed
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when was the last time someone hit 40 hrs on the Rockies?
LIke 2003?
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nope, 2001
when Helton did it.
Yo in 2005, Helton led the team in homers with 20. I had (understandably) forgotten about that
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yeah 05 was really, really bad
i was just browsing the franchise encyclopedia on B-R, were you too?
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fangraphs
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are the
1996/1997 Rockies the only teams ever with 3 guys who hit 40 home runs on them?
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i think so
not totally sure, but from i what i can tell it seems right
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Willingham is the only guy I would go after.
I want no part of Napoli.
Betemit and Callaspo can go play in the sea foam off the New Jersey coast.
FFFFFFFFFFF.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 29, 2011 2:28 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I want no part of Napoli.
You don’t like good hitters?
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But you see, our manager is Jim Teacy and would give Napoli many starts at the catcher position
With both Iannetta and Rosario possibly on the roster
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 29, 2011 2:34 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
But you see, our manager is Jim Tracy and would give Napoli many starts at the catcher position
With both Iannetta and Rosario possibly on the roster
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 29, 2011 2:35 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
and the problem with that would be?
napoli is hitting better than iannetta this year
much better
but but but can he chew out umpires, or frame a pitch or work on sunday etc ? :)
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At this point, just give me the best 9 offensive players for every 3 of 4 games
and figure out where they play later.
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worked for casey stengel
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you do realise that our 2B this year have a 65 OPS+?
or that our 3B is a 76 OPS+ added to our pitchers means 1/3 of our line is a black hole of production. I would take Betemit over Jose Lopez especially at 1/4 the cost, I would take Callaspo over Herrera, Nelson, et al at 2B and his glove and .282/.336/.403 over the last 3 years at 3B over our last three years of production there. Mike Napoli I sure as hell would rather have him at 1B than Wiggy.
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I kind of miss Clint Barmes
Barmes since 2009 .253 .307 .412 .720
Ellis since 2009 .266 .331 .398 .729
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I'd still roll with Ellis for the higher OBP
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I kind of like Barmes' Arm and SS D
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I'd take Ellis' consistent production over Barmes' hot flash of power in June and then...nothing.
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but we'd be playing him at 2b right?
where the arm is less of a factor and Ellis has pretty good d there too?
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I kind of like Mark Ellis' top-flight 2B D
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 3:30 PM MDT up reply actions
i kind of like how barmes isn't on my team any more
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OT: There's no OT thread, but this is a must-share situation.
I had the weirdest work meeting ever this morning. Our emcee was Pollo Del Mar. She even did a brief performance afterward (basically lip-synched 9 to 5).
the gimp
Learn it
Love it
Live it
Otherwise there are some programs out there that will convert a snip of video into a gif.
Get well soon Juan.
Its an open source photoshop.
You should be able to google tutorials for making gifs among other things if you are willing to get your hands dirty. Its how I made this one:
Get well soon Juan.
from a video source, what?
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 3:30 PM MDT up reply actions
the site in the gifs above works pretty well
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 3:46 PM MDT up reply actions
YEAH
Rockies OF Carlos Gonzalez has been named the National League Player of the Week for the period of August 22-28.
Prediction----> Cargo and Tulo will both have over 30 homers this year
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/obvious
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 29, 2011 3:45 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
PARTY PARTY PARTY
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by Andrew Martin on Aug 29, 2011 3:47 PM MDT up reply actions
He really needs to keep this going.
Maybe him and TUlo can grab CoPlayer of the Week. THat would be a huge week for those 2.
Prediction----> Cargo and Tulo will both have over 30 homers this year
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Them
1. Ryan Roberts® 3B
2. Aaron Hill® 2B
3. Justin Upton® RF
4. Miguel Montero (L) C
5. Paul Goldschmidt® 1B
6. Chris Young® CF
7. Gerardo Parra (L) LF
8. John McDonald® SS
9. Daniel Hudson® P
Prediction----> Cargo and Tulo will both have over 30 homers this year
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That's the best lineup for a team leading the NL West?
…………………………………….
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by CentralCaliRox on Aug 29, 2011 5:03 PM MDT up reply actions
that's what they put down.
Prediction----> Cargo and Tulo will both have over 30 homers this year
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it's the diamondbacks...
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What's sad
is that for how lackluster our lineup has been this entire year, it’s still easily the best in the division. What’s also sad is that our best pitcher probably wouldn’t be more than the #3 on any of our divisional opponents staff’s, though. But that should change next year…while I don’t see any of these teams getting much better offensively. Hope? Meh.
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by Cargo's Ball Sack5 on Aug 29, 2011 6:27 PM MDT up reply actions
I dunno, if Drew is healthy,
I’d say the Diamondbacks easily have the most potent lineup in the NL West.
I guess it depends
on how highly you view Chris Young and Montero. Because to me, both Cargo and Tulo are at least as good as Upton, if not better. And they’re substantially better than whoever the second best player is for Arizona. I also think Todd is still right there with guys like Montero, Drew, and Young. And Seth is as well. Everyone else is fairly average.
At the end of the day I think I’ll always just prefer top elite hitters over one. And we’re the only team in the division who can claim that.
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by Cargo's Ball Sack5 on Aug 29, 2011 6:44 PM MDT up reply actions
US
1. Dexter Fowler (S) CF
2. Mark Ellis® 2B
3. Carlos Gonzalez (L) RF
4. Troy Tulowitzki® SS
5. Todd Helton (L) 1B
6. Seth Smith (L) LF
7. Kevin Kouzmanoff® 3B
8. Chris Iannetta® C
9. Alex White® P
Prediction----> Cargo and Tulo will both have over 30 homers this year
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at least there is no Wiggy
Prediction----> Cargo and Tulo will both have over 30 homers this year
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Well at least CDI is in the linup
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Yesterday my friend who very sporadically watches games asked me if he was part of the Ubaldo trade,
because she never sees him play anymore. I had to explain about Jim Tracy’s inexplicable hatred of Iannetta.
Is it 2012 yet?
The A team!
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by nodakroxfan on Aug 29, 2011 4:26 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I dig this lineup.
In fact I’m pretty sure it’s our best possible one.
Did Tracy explain why he’s started playing CarGo in RF more regularly? I like the decision, I just wasn’t sure when he made the change from “CarGo is our everyday LF from now on (and CF when Dex gets sent down).”
I was wondering the same thing.
At first I thought it was only when EY2 started, but then I noticed it when Smith managed to get a start as well.
He said it's to take advantage of Cargo's arm
which makes sense, especially when EY starts, since he’d be even worse in right field. The only thing I don’t like about it is when Seth plays LF at Coors. That just screams trouble to me. The only decent thing about Seth’s defense is his arm(albeit, still not as good as Cargo’s), so I prefer him in RF at Coors, with Cargo in LF to cover more ground. On the road, Smith in LF and Cargo in RF.
That’s actually what we did last year I believe. Cargo would play LF at home, and RF on the road. But I think Tracy just doesn’t want to keep moving him around every few games, which I can also understand.
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by Cargo's Ball Sack5 on Aug 29, 2011 5:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Give it time
He’s already made a few botched sliding attempts in LF. His lack of range has also shown up on numerous occasions. Realistically he is going to be a below average fielder in either spot. I just think the difference between Cargo’s range and Seth’s range is greater than the difference between Cargo’s arm and Seth’s arm. So to me, at Coors, it makes more sense to have Cargo in LF and Seth in RF. In other stadiums it’s likely the opposite, though.
The biggest question to me is what kind of effect does switching back and forth between positions have on overall performance, both defensively and offensively. If it’s at all measurable, then I agree with keeping them where they’re at, both home and road. Otherwise, I think flipping them, depending on the stadium, could be more optimal.
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by Cargo's Ball Sack5 on Aug 29, 2011 6:34 PM MDT up reply actions
I want that same exact lineup
for each of the 3 games. Maybe on Wednesday give CDI a rest because of the Phoenix heat.
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by CentralCaliRox on Aug 29, 2011 5:02 PM MDT up reply actions
It's so hot indoors.
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After doing some research today I discovered there is only one MiLB team in Canada
Which is in Vancouver. Doesn’t that strike anyone as odd? You think Montreal would be able to handle a AAA or AA team at least, And Ottawa, Calgary, Edmonton, and Southern Ontario should be able to support some sort of Minor League team, possibly Winnipeg and Regina rookie level, etc… Would probably help interest of the sport up there…
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They have independent teams.
Most of the MiLB teams have failed for various reasons. Three reasons besides interest have always been:
1) Bad travel
2) Financial issues with exchange rates, etc.
3) Crappy weather.
All of those places, except Southern Ontario, have had MiLB teams at some point. Most within the last 15 years.
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 29, 2011 5:31 PM MDT up reply actions
The plight of the NHL
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by SurfaceThought on Aug 29, 2011 5:55 PM MDT up reply actions
salary cap = totally good for the sport
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Are you suggesting it would be good for baseball
Or it was for Hockey?
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by SurfaceThought on Aug 29, 2011 5:57 PM MDT up reply actions
i'm implying it was bad for hockey
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I have yet to see evidence showing how salary caps
are good for anyone but the owners. Yet, for some reason, people who are knowledgeable about sports still seem to think that one would be good for baseball.
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 29, 2011 6:03 PM MDT up reply actions
people are just upset the teams located in the wealthiest areas of the country can maintain a much higher payroll than their team in the middle of nowhere
but as we’ve seen for at least the marlins and pirates, they just kept payroll down to pocket the money. baseball would be very interesting if more owners spent to capacity, especially if the expansion went to payroll.
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although i am of the opinion that it would be bad for baseball, as well
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WOw. Is everyone headed home from work or does anyone even care anymore that there is still baseball games to play
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yea. But, I am trying to stay awake here and no one else is talking.
Prediction----> Cargo and Tulo will both have over 30 homers this year
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
Just talk to yourself. It's how I stay awake all day
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
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Just keep getting the same answers all the time. It gets boring.
Prediction----> Cargo and Tulo will both have over 30 homers this year
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
I'm at work. I think its time to take about an hour nap. Then, I'll be ready for the game.
Prediction----> Cargo and Tulo will both have over 30 homers this year
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
stay awake?
where are you that it’s late enough that falling asleep arbitrarily is a concern?
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2012: get ready for White Pomz!
Renck tweets from Tracy interview
“
I wonder where we would be if we had 50-55 more RBIs from third base. Been an issue all year,” Tracy saidDiscuss?
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
That's the amount of RBIs Wiggy could've had
If he hadn’t failed soooooooo much in RISP situations.
It’s okay though. Now that the season is basically over, i’ve realized I kinda like Wiggy.
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Aug 29, 2011 6:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Well, he's right.
As much as RBIs isn’t a great tool for evaluating players, it still leads to runs scored for a time, and we’ve gotten a lot less of those from 3B than we anticipated.
I would say that this is another of Tracy's go-to moves:
throwing players under the bus. Deservedly? Sure. But still.
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 29, 2011 6:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah but which player is specificall throwing under the bus
Or is it just the collective failure?
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Stewart primarily.
A little of Wiggy too. I just don’t think this is the kind of thing that players appreciate their managers airing to the press. And I don’t think you hear it that often. They say things like, “We need to get more runs out of the guys.” They might even say, “We need to get more runs out of some key positions.” But you don’t often hear, “We might be good if it weren’t for those guys who’ve been playing 3B.”
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 29, 2011 6:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Huh, for some reason, what you just said made me wonder
if any of these comments are more about DOD not getting him better players?
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Maybe.
He’s been known to say these kinds of things about players though. Who knows? Either way, it’s not typical of a major league manager.
by DumbAndNerdy on Aug 29, 2011 6:34 PM MDT up reply actions
yes and no
lack of RBIs period has been the issue, you can’t really pinpoint the blame on 3B. especially when he has alfonzo hitting friggin cleanup and never lets CDI higher than 8th
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2012: get ready for White Pomz!
Rockies Road Offense...
Has been much better this year, IIRC. They put up a good amount of runs in the LA series.
@CentralCaliRox
2010: 81 road games - .226/.301/.351, 291 runs. Averaged 3.59 Runs/Road Game.
2011: 66 road games – .237/.307/.371, 234 runs. Averaging 3.54 runs/road game.
Huh. Go figure.
@CentralCaliRox
by CentralCaliRox on Aug 29, 2011 6:24 PM MDT up reply actions
scoring less runs while maintaining a clearly better batting line
FFFF
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2011 7:41 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
kind of
but not really:
.299 wOBA 77 wRC+ (bottom 5) on the road vs .352/112 at home (top 4)
and 2010….292 wOBA 68 wRC+ (bottom 4) vs .373/122 (#1 in MLB)
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
2012: get ready for White Pomz!
OT: As I await the game, I'm doing two things:
1) Watching my kids play.
2) Deciding which Carpenters songs to keep on my iPod.
I’m old.
BtB's power rankings
18 Giants 71 62 They’re still in second place, but have the worst run differential in the division (454 scored, 471 allowed).
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
2012: get ready for White Pomz!
I am going to be so angry when I look back on this season.
The other teams in the division haven’t been anything special all year.
We didn’t even need to be that good!
Sigh.
yeah
if only jorge’s arm hadn’t gone kablooie, and if tulo hadn’t had that month of bad BABIP.
/prays for 2012
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
2012: get ready for White Pomz!
hey I wrote the same thing in my Friday column last week
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2011 7:42 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
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