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Wednesday Rockpile: The Innings that Killed the Rockies in 2011

DENVER, CO - SEPTEMBER 09:  Starting pitcher Jhoulys Chacin #45 of the Colorado Rockies is removed from the game by coach Tom Runnells #11 as catcher Wilin Rosario #12 of the Colorado Rockies looks on against the Cincinnati Reds in the sixth inning at Coors Field on September 9, 2011 in Denver, Colorado.  (Photo by Doug Pensinger/Getty Images)

With the extra innings loss last night, Colorado has now lost 78 games this year, nearly as many as they lost all of last year. They've lost close games and blowouts, they've lost it early and late, they've lost pitching duels and slugfests. The interesting thing is that the Rockies are 9 games under .500, but their scoring margin is a mere -13, which has an expected record of 72-75.

You know who also has a -13 scoring margin in the NL West? The 78-70 San Francisco Giants. Basically, the Rockies have underperformed even that modest record by 3 games while the Giants overperformed by 6 games. For that matter, Arizona has also outperformed their expected W-L by 6 games.

How has this happened? As in most aspects of life, context/timing is important. Here's a by-inning breakdown of Colorado's run-scoring differential (data from Baseball Reference):

Inning

RS

RA

Diff.

% Diff.

1

95

100

-5

-3%

2

77

48

29

23%

3

70

94

-24

-15%

4

79

75

4

3%

5

83

59

24

17%

6

82

107

-25

-13%

7

80

79

1

1%

8

63

58

5

4%

9

36

52

-16

-18%

Extras

7

13

-6

-30%

Total

672

685

-13

-1%

Per Game

4.57

4.66

-0.09

-1%

Basically, the Rockies have four inning groups in which they have scored at least 13% less runs than their opponents but have only scored 13% more in two innings.

Star-divide

Looking at these innings, two are obviously very damaging to success -- the 9th inning and extra innings. Runs in those innings could end the game outright, as they did last night. The 6th inning has been crucial as well for the Rockies, as it is during the 6th inning where the Colorado starter has tended to tire and falter, and it is where the weaker relief pitchers in the bullpen tend to throw their innings. In addition, the 6th inning is often when the pitcher begins facing the lineup for the 3rd time, which is when hitters are much more effective against a pitcher. Basically, the opposing team's starters have been able to remain effective longer than Colorado's starters, often allowing the opponents to give the ball only to their ace relievers.

The 3rd inning is more of a mystery logically. Yes, that is often when some of the best hitters in an opposing lineup get their turn to bat (for the 2nd time against the starter), but it is also often the inning where the opponent pitcher gets their first plate appearance. Given the stellar run differential Colorado has put up in the 2nd inning, it seems much more likely that the bottom of the order for the Rockies' opponents are simply killing Colorado. Or it could just be random bad luck. I mean, Colorado goes from allowing 59 runs in the 5th inning to 107 in the 6th. The factors I described above are certainly a factor, but a large part of that is statistical noise.

My hope is that next year Colorado's starters go deeper into games and avoid this 6th inning funk while the offense's late inning struggles regresses upward to the mean. Then again, that will probably involve Colorado giving up their 2nd and 5th inning advantages.

If you want to delve deeper into the scoring data, I strongly encourage it, as you can compare these scoring trends to league average. For instance, NL average runs allowed on a per 9 innings basis for the 3rd and 6th innings is 4.26 and 4.68 -- for Colorado, the RA number is 5.79 and 6.53. There's plenty of nuggets to be found if you look hard enough.

Scoring (4) Runs is Important Update

Rockies record when scoring less than 4 runs: 15-59 (.203)

Rockies record when scoring 4 runs or more: 53-19 (.736)

Yep, still important. Also, Colorado has scored 3 or less in more than half of their games. Also also, in a related development, Colorado is 9 games under .500.

Kevin Millwood News

Jim Tracy says that Kevin Millwood is auditioning for 2012 this September. Given his play this year, that probably wouldn't be the worst thing to shore up the back of Colorado's rotation. The dude just wants a job next year.

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My suspicion is that clutch may be more or less a myth

But anti-clutch certainly isn’t. And unfortunately, too many players on the team give worrying impressions of having choking problems. I’m afraid, other than trying to find a coach who’s a man manager to the point of genius, I don’t have any real suggestions.

by biondino on Sep 14, 2011 8:20 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Convincing batters

that their approach in the 9th should be the same as it was in the 4th would be a good start.

by webgem14 on Sep 14, 2011 8:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

Convincing them to have an approach would work wonders too.

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by Oldfoagie on Sep 14, 2011 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

Interesting

A few thoughts:

The offense is mainly consistent up until the 8th/9th innings. So that would make the pitching the main culprit in those rough innings.

Starters getting tired in the 6th, may be a result of young pitchers int the rotation. It also may be a result of too many walks/pitches to get into the 6th.

by webgem14 on Sep 14, 2011 8:28 AM MDT reply actions  

It's hard for me to make sense of these numbers

My initial thoughts for the 3rd are we extending innings by walking or allowing hits to their pitchers more frequently than they are to us?

For the 9th, it just reinforces that Street hasn’t had a great year and we struggle to get big hits against our opponent’s closer.

by osierra11 on Sep 14, 2011 8:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

This post does involve numbers, sorry, but they can help in analysis. Contrary to popular assumptions, Street has actually had a good season with the exception of May, the month that the entire team seemed to catch some horrible loser disease. In April, he was 10/10 in saves (gave up 2 HR that did not affect the saves) and won Delivery Man of the Month. In June, he went 9/9 in saves with 1 loss and 0 HR. In July, he was 5/5 for saves and gave up 2 HR, one that was a loss & one that was still a save. In August, he had 2 save opps. One was the infamous blown save (a HR) against PHI, and the other was a 1,2,3 save the day before he was placed on the DL. During May, the team lost 21 games and won 8. Street gave up 2 HR in one blown save, 1 HR in another blown save, and 1 HR in a loss ( 3 out of 21 team losses). He contributed in one other loss where he entered the game when the Rockies were already losing and gave up a couple of ER to worsen the score. So out of 21 losses, you can lay 4 at his doorstep, although he was officially tapped for 3. Over all, he has a 90.6% save per save opp rate (29/32) with three losses for the season. There are only 6 closers (with more than 25 save opps, just for an arbitrary base) with a better save percentage rate in all of the MLB at this point, 5 of which pitch for division or wild card leaders (Valverde-100%, 4 losses; Papelbon-96.7%, 0 losses; Axford-95.4%, 2 losses; Madson-93.7%, 2 losses; Hanrahan-92.5%, 4 losses; & Putz-90.9%, 2 losses). (In case you wondered, All-Star Heath Bell is at 88.1% with 4 losses.) Of other Rockies pitchers who have had save opportunities in 2011, Betancourt is 6/10, Belisle is 0/7 despite his 10 wins, Lindstrom is 2/5, Brothers is 1/3, M Reynolds is 0/2, and Paulino was 0/1 – oh yes, Hammel, home run king & super closer, is 1/1!) So whether you like his pitching style or not, Huston Street has done his job and has not been our problem.

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by Roxman on Sep 14, 2011 12:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree Street isn't a problem

But It’s very unfair to compare save % between closers and other relievers. Only the 9th inning can be a save situation, so only the closer gets saves. But blowing a lead in the 7th is also a “blown save.” One of the more ridiculous aspects of a silly stat

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 14, 2011 1:04 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Agree

The blown save for middle relievers is a dumb stat. Some of the best setup men and middle relievers in the entire game are 0-for-something in saves/save opportunities, because they have no real save opportunities. Betancourt is 6 for 7 in true save opportunities, I’m guessing Belisle is 0 for 0 and Lindstrom must be 2 for 2 ( I recall the one in NY when he relieved Street, don’t remember the other). That doesn’t mean any of them pitcher better – or worse – than Street. If Street had worked exclusively in the 7th and 8th all year, he would be 0-for-something in save opportnities – and it wouldn’t tell you a damn thing about how he’s pitched.

by Northsider1964 on Sep 14, 2011 1:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

All these write-ups lately have been well researched an thoughtout

But I can’t but feeling all the number crunching in baseball is smoke and mirrors. I don’t believe in “overperforming” on “expected” wins or what not. I care about performance and results. And the Rockies simply stunk to high heaven all season, no matter what the number say. It boggles my mind that Jim Tracy will probably be back next year. I think a Manager, like a captain, or any leader, sets the tone for the entire crew. And the tone at the end of last season, and this entire season, has been messy, inconsistent, frustrated, and a failure.

by CarRo2010 on Sep 14, 2011 8:43 AM MDT reply actions  

Totally

Sarcasm aside, you can’t live life in a damn calculator.

by CarRo2010 on Sep 14, 2011 8:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

The numbers don't prove things,

but they provide a concrete basis for discussion.

Terms like tone, messy, inconsistent, and frustrated are relative.

In fact the Rockies did not stink to high heaven all season. They had a wholly remarkable April. They had a disastrous May, This was followed by a good rebound in June that just wasn’t good enough to get them out of the hole and the slide into a mediocre July and August.

The use of numbers is an attempt for accurate analysis as words like “stunk to high heaven all season” are incapable of performing this function.

by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 14, 2011 9:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

this statement is what I find interesting
the Rockies simply stunk to high heaven all season, no matter what the number say

If we just take the first part of that:

the Rockies simply stunk to high heaven all season

It’s true but it gives us no real direction on how to solve the problem. If we look at the second part:

no matter what the number say

Ultimately some people somewhere are going to use numbers to make decisions. Whether that’s inning by inning run differentials, WAR, advanced defensive metrics, wins, losses, fielding percent, RBI, vegas #’s, dollars whatever.

I feel like the original comment is more about venting frustration.

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by Resolution on Sep 14, 2011 9:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

that being said

I agree with your tracy statement. I think he does very little to put this team in a consistently good position to win.

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by Resolution on Sep 14, 2011 9:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

question

and I know this is pretty ‘out there’, but why do we need only one manager? I get that we’re in contention so it wouldn’t necessarily make sense, but why couldn’t a team switch between managers and see how the team performs under each manager? The increase in competition may actually force managers to give a shit about things they haven’t necessarily looked into before…

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by Resolution on Sep 14, 2011 9:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

some people have two wives. And although it’s not necessarily direct competition, the 3 branches of government are a counter-check to presidential hegemony…

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by Resolution on Sep 14, 2011 9:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

But the three branches of government don't perform the same function.

This is what you are suggesting. There are checks against a manager in a good organization.

by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 14, 2011 9:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

so what does it say about our organization

that there aren’t any checks against the manager whatsoever?

by ween1980 on Sep 14, 2011 9:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

certainly seems that way.

As far as I can tell, Tracy has complete freedom, and is not held responsible for the results. Looks like there’s no checks to me.

by ween1980 on Sep 14, 2011 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

They fired Hurdle in 09 so there are some checks

Maybe they will bring in a bigger name bench coach this offseason so that the leash on Tracy going into next year is short

by purplesocks on Sep 14, 2011 10:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

yea they finally fired him

after what, 7 years of incompetence? and only because the fan base demanded it. You think Hurdle would’ve lasted 7 years in NY or Chicago, or anywhere else where managers are actually expected to, you know, win games?

by ween1980 on Sep 14, 2011 10:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

no

but the 2002-2006 Rockies underperformed their Pythagorean W/L by 3-6 games every year. Tell me why you think that might be the case.

by ween1980 on Sep 14, 2011 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

I would be careful about correlating Pythagorean W/L and manager performance.

I think it speaks more to having a bad bullpen that chokes away close games and playing in a good hitting environment at home that produces a good chunk of blowout wins. If you loose five one or two run games in a row and then win 10-4, your scoring differential is still reasonable.

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by BittenAnkles on Sep 14, 2011 10:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think the case is that Hurdle is a good manager for a AAAA team.

He’s good at getting a young squad to at least resemble major leaguers. But once it goes from “no expectations” to “expectations”, you need a different manager.

Hurdle was fired because it was time for him to move on.

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by Andrew Martin on Sep 14, 2011 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

Can we become the vocal minority

Similiar to the Tebow chanters, and force the DOD’s hand to fire Tracy or at least bring it to the mainstream? We just need a clever chant.

by Cargo'es Yard on Sep 14, 2011 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

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by hotdoglady on Sep 14, 2011 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

not so sure

certainly among the established NFL guys Orton has the edge, but there is a pretty solid chunk who think the younger more mobile/physical guy would be a better option behind that so called line. Plus Orton is tradeable for value, Tebow is not.

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by TomCat009 on Sep 14, 2011 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

Among the true Bronco fans

I would say yes. Among those who listen to sports radio to form their opinions, i would say no.

by Cargo'es Yard on Sep 14, 2011 11:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'll agree with that

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by Junction Rox on Sep 14, 2011 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

No broncos fan here

but anything that associates us with Tebow supporters should be avoided like the plague.

by Teekalong on Sep 14, 2011 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

here's a mask


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by butterfly on Sep 14, 2011 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

I only used the comparison

to underscore how much traction this story has gotten after 1 game. The PR community has been complaining about Tracy for a good two months (longer by a few of us) yet we can’t get a full article written about a possible hot seat for Tracy.

by Cargo'es Yard on Sep 14, 2011 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

Renck doesn't ask enough hard questions

I like the guy and always read his posts but he doesn’t question the manager’s decisions enough. Sometimes I feel he works for the Rockies instead of the Post.

by Cargo'es Yard on Sep 14, 2011 11:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

the alternative is becoming Adrian Dater, the Avs writer for the Post

who consistently calls out players and coaches during the game on Twitter, then acts hurt when the players are hesitant to give him statements after games.

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by Muzia on Sep 14, 2011 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

I don't have any desire to see Renck be overly critical

But he needs to stop serving as a fanboy stenographer and ask some challenging questions for a change. I wish Dave Krieger was the Rockies beat writer. He strikes an objective tone without going over the top.

by Northsider1964 on Sep 14, 2011 12:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

Renck is great.

You can ask the question, “Why would Tracy get an extension is he sucks?” And you the answer you will get involves a two word phrase whamming with duck slough.

I’m not sure what more you want.

by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 14, 2011 11:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

only two months?

you must be new.

I too wonder why Tracy is not “officially” on the hot seat, but I’m still of the opinion that DOD lets him go this offseason.

by Teekalong on Sep 14, 2011 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

yeah i knew i shouldn't have used two months

but i’ve noticed more of the community moving to this conclusion than we had before.

by Cargo'es Yard on Sep 14, 2011 11:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

yeah two managers would probably not go so well...

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by papality on Sep 14, 2011 9:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

but we've had two starting catchers for f4 of the last 5 years.

and probably will next year.

Not to mention the thre starting 3b we had this year.

by webgem14 on Sep 14, 2011 9:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

I find this idea intriguing

Kinda like the competition the players face when platooning etc. I do think competition makes people work harder. A lot of questions to be worked out, but I like the concept .


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by butterfly on Sep 14, 2011 9:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

The problem isn't that Tracy doesn't work hard.

I’m sure that he works very hard. He just isn’t the right guy for this team.

I’m also not sure about this competition makes people work harder idea. I have rarely seen that happen in life.

by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 14, 2011 9:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

I wasn't pointing out Tracy specifically...

I’m sure this whole " competition does/doesn’t make people work harder" discussion would be very interesting , but quite frankly I’m not up for it today. I just found Resolutions idea intriguing and just threw out a couple of my thoughts.


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by butterfly on Sep 14, 2011 10:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

Are you throwing sparks now, Andrew ?


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by butterfly on Sep 14, 2011 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

there is a difference between working hard and working smart.

competition can work / not work . I just didn’t want to get in a long discussion with Petro etc. because i know there are good examples on both sides. As I said I never mentioned Tracy. Competition is case specific. I agree with you about Tracy in all respects.


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by butterfly on Sep 14, 2011 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

I didn't mean it necessarily as direct competition

though that’s how it came out. I just meant another mind to challenge the other or something. Or in the very least get two peopel with completely different mindsets/approaches and then just see under which the team performed better…

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by Resolution on Sep 14, 2011 3:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

thanks


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by butterfly on Sep 14, 2011 3:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hey, why not?

We have underperforming players that we can’t bring ourselves to say goodbye to because they’re really nice guys – why not add an underperforming manager to the deadwood pile?

I just feel bad for the season ticket holders who will lose their seats when the first base dugout at Coors Field is expanded to accommodate 100 people.

by Northsider1964 on Sep 14, 2011 9:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

Tell that to Tron

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 9:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

Tron would say he lived life in a mainframe

But would enjoy the space if they were moved into a TI-86

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by Thnikkaman on Sep 14, 2011 9:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

Fair point

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 9:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

Lately?

Their articles are always well researched and thought out.

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 9:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Sep 14, 2011 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

Meh. I just call em as I see em

But it’s like the commenter has never read…..oh wait…

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

At first I thought this was going to be a list of Rockies failures

from this year. I thought, “What sick, twisted mind would write something like that?” This is better.

One thing about the lack of run production in the ninth might be our seeming inability to hit sliders well. Most closers have pretty-good-to-great sliders.

by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 14, 2011 8:46 AM MDT reply actions  

interesting write up jeff

to piggy back on CarRo, it is frustrating to see in our division tougher managers get results and our mandy pandy guy not. And then be gifted with a blank check and possibly an extension is brutal. bu this whole season has been brutal

And shut down Tulo please, no reason to run him out there, see what Field has.

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by El Paso Jeff on Sep 14, 2011 8:49 AM MDT reply actions  

I wonder how these run differentials per inning

stack up against the rest of the NL. I also think it’s unsurprising that we underperform in innings where our pitcher typically bats…

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by Resolution on Sep 14, 2011 8:53 AM MDT reply actions  

When will Pomeranz be pitching again?

Was it Cook that lost his spot in the rotation?

Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Cargo? The countdown is beginning to number 30. 25 down. 5 to go.
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by Roxman4ever on Sep 14, 2011 9:09 AM MDT reply actions  

Looks like Saturday.

I’m excited to see him live. I will be buying my tickets today.

Get well soon Juan.

by Thnikkaman on Sep 14, 2011 9:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

thanks

Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Cargo? The countdown is beginning to number 30. 25 down. 5 to go.
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by Roxman4ever on Sep 14, 2011 9:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

You should be

he’s pretty good… SSS be damned

by Purple Row Troll on Sep 14, 2011 9:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

Next year: Start making plans

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Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Cargo? The countdown is beginning to number 30. 25 down. 5 to go.
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by Roxman4ever on Sep 14, 2011 9:38 AM MDT reply actions  

I still maintain that attendance will stay virtually unchanged regardless of most factors

non Boston, NYY category

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by Muzia on Sep 14, 2011 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

From 2011 to 2012, or overall?

I’m not talking about a dramatic drop, but I think a couple factors will cause a downturn next year.

1) Less season ticket sales. The excitement of expectations led to an increase in season tickets this year. I think some of that will be lost due to the mediocre play this year, and the likely press that the Rockies will not compete next year. We’re not talking about a big drop, but at least a loss of the gain they had during the last offseason.

2) Less out-of-towners. The A’s, Mariners, and Angels fans are less likely to travel here.

I’ll say a 250,000–300,000 drop with a noncompetitive team. This would be erased with a competitive team.

by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 14, 2011 10:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Mariners fans are highly unlikely to travel here

since it doesn’t look like we’re playing the M’s next year….

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by Junction Rox on Sep 14, 2011 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

Uh.,.. we are...

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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2011 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

Never mind

I clicked on the 2011 schedule. D’oh!

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by Junction Rox on Sep 14, 2011 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

That is not on the 2011 schedule I was looking at

I blame Bud Selig

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by Junction Rox on Sep 14, 2011 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

You can't go wrong with this strategy

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by RdRnnr on Sep 14, 2011 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

There was also this...
The Rockies will play the Angels (June 8-10) and the Athletics (June 12-14) at Coors Field. The Rockies will have road Interleague series with the Tigers from June 15-17 and the Rangers from June 22-24, with an NL road series against the Phillies in between.

from Harding’s article. I looked at the schedule to see if we really weren’t playing the M’s, and magically found the one schedule that would tell me we weren’t… :-(

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by Junction Rox on Sep 14, 2011 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

Mariners fans are highly unlikely to travel here
since it looks like they’re the Mariners.

Fixed.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Sep 14, 2011 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

Not a fan of having the home opener on a Monday

the Tuesday following is already shaping up to be a worthless day.

by Cargo'es Yard on Sep 14, 2011 10:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah that is a bad day for a home opener

I wish they would have scheduled one more road series during that time frame and had the home opener on a Friday like this year.

by purplesocks on Sep 14, 2011 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

Agree

all home openers should be on a Friday even if it’s one week after the official opener.

by Cargo'es Yard on Sep 14, 2011 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yep.

That means taking an extra day off now.

Is it 2012 yet?

by DAWNMARIE01 on Sep 14, 2011 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

I may take that whole week off.

If I’m taking Monday to go, and Tuesday to recover…suddenly a 3-day week looks kinda dumb.

"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
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by RdRnnr on Sep 14, 2011 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

It's also the day after Easter...

I’m pretty sure I’ll make it a vacation week.

"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.

by RdRnnr on Sep 14, 2011 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'm worried about the beer supply

After this case and the next case, we only have one case left!

Taking off a week during early season baseball is not a bad idea.

by Cargo'es Yard on Sep 14, 2011 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

Cutting it close!

Thankfully, we have time to address this problem before it gets too much worse.

"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.

by RdRnnr on Sep 14, 2011 10:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

Welcome to the Row

Let me count the other reasons I’m not a fan of this schedule.

1) There is at least one east coast road trip during every month.

/That’s complete asinine.

2) The Rockies have to end the season playing 27 of their last 43 on the road (63% of their games) – And oh by the way, it includes two east coast road trips, one of them visits both Atlanta and Philly.

3) The Rocies have only 3 off days during that last 64 days of the season. With just a couple of rainouts during the first four months that have to be rescheduled during August and September, the Rockies will be basically playing for two months straight without a day off.

4) That wonderful 9 game road trip to Detroit, Texas, and Philly in June. (It’s really hard not seeing that as a total disaster.)

5) Getting Detroit as our extra interleague series. The Rockies play the four teams in the AL West and then get Detroit. WHY DETROIT? That makes NO SENSE. The Giants for instance play an extra series with Oakland while the Padres play an extra series with the Mariners.

I’m pretty disgusted with this.

I'm pretty disgusted right now!

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 14, 2011 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

I thought our "natural rival" was Kansas City?

Why not have the extra series with them… Detroit is better than say the Yankees/Red Sox/ Rays, not by much though.

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by BittenAnkles on Sep 14, 2011 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

No, KC is St. Louis' natural rival

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Sep 14, 2011 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

/snort

"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.

by RdRnnr on Sep 14, 2011 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'm serious

Extra team for 2012 – Tigers
Extra team for 2011 – Yankees
Extra team for 2010 – Red Sox
Extra team for 2009 – Rays

Seriously – What the hell?

I'm pretty disgusted right now!

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 14, 2011 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

"Extra" team?

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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2011 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

Team outside of the division we are otherwise playing.

"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
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by RdRnnr on Sep 14, 2011 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

Interleague schedule.

Team that we play that is not in the division we were assigned.

Ex: This year, we played primarily the AL central. The “extra” team we got for interleague was the Yankees.

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by CentralCaliRox on Sep 14, 2011 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

That's not right, though.

In both 2010 and 2009 we played teams from several different divisions, not just one plus an “extra”.

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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2011 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

Teams begin with one division, which is then swtiched up for scheduling convenience.

As demonstrated below, we often play teams from all three divisions. It’s only been trending away from that the past two seasons.

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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2011 11:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yes.

But the general rule is one division and your natural rival. Since we don’t have a natural rival, we get a hodgepodge. So, this is mostly right.

by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 14, 2011 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

Looking over interleague schedules of the past five years, I'm seeing a lot of exceptions to this thesis.

That said, my only major disagreement is with the notion that either the Red Sox or Rays were “extra” teams.

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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2011 11:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

This is because

we don’t have a natural rival. This means that we are used regularly as a fill-in. This is our “extra team(s)”. But the overall idea of a divisional rotation system with a regular rival has been the process of inter league scheduling, I think, since its inception.

by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 14, 2011 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

You generally play all the team from one divsion

This year we played all AL central teams and an extra series against the Yankees. Next year we will play all AL West teams and an extra series against the Tigers.

I'm pretty disgusted right now!

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 14, 2011 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

Interleague History

2012:
- AL West plus Tigers. Fair enough

2011:
- AL Central, Twins swapped for Yankees. Fair enough.

2010:
- Royals, Twins from Central, Blue Jays, Red Sox from East, Angels from West. How are the Red Sox the extra team here? Shouldn’t it be the Angels, if anything?

2009:
- Mariners, Angels, Athletics from West, Rays from East, Tigers from Central. Why are they not both “Extra” teams?

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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 14, 2011 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

Actually you're right on 2010

(2009 should be two extra teams – and neither of them were a bargin)

2010 was just a mess where they gave us four good teams (three of them playoff teams from the year before) and only one bad one which might be worse than what they are doing next year.

When do we get to play an extra team like Baltimore?

I'm pretty disgusted right now!

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 14, 2011 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

Everybody loves the AL East!

It’s a favor to the people of Denver to keep sending them to us!!

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-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.

by RdRnnr on Sep 14, 2011 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

Actually,

I agree with this in some respects.

by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 14, 2011 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

It could be

First, if you want to be the best, you need to beat the best…so I don’t necessarily hate it. At the same time, assuming we are ever in a race for the division title, I hate having to get as many from the Yankees as our rival gets against the Blue Jays or Kansas City.

"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.

by RdRnnr on Sep 14, 2011 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

Wait, so we have two road trips to Philly?

God damnit.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Sep 14, 2011 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yep

And both trips include other east coast teams who will also be in the postseason this year. I am ready to storm Selig’s office. This is complete garbage.

I'm pretty disgusted right now!

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 14, 2011 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

I am ready to storm Selig’s office

You may want to consider changing your avatar first…

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by Muzia on Sep 14, 2011 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

When it changes

You’ll know where I am :-)

I'm pretty disgusted right now!

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 14, 2011 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

You'll be with me in Denver.

or at least that’s what I’m willing to testify to in open court.

"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.

by RdRnnr on Sep 14, 2011 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly

I'm pretty disgusted right now!

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 14, 2011 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

We're going to go 0-81 on the road next season, aren't we?

:(

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Sep 14, 2011 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

No way

Late in the season, Tracy decides to go ahead and use the closer in tie road games – and salvages a 3-78 mark.

by Northsider1964 on Sep 14, 2011 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

unpossible

that’s when Paulino pitches

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by Andrew Martin on Sep 14, 2011 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

I have been talking to some AL fans from around the country. ( I work in a Hotel )

    Their consensus is Coors is a natural AL park. They think that after Selig makes a big stink about moving the Astros to the AL west; He’ll compromise by moving us instead and moving the ‘stros to the NL west. Alot oh these fans believe Selig will impose the DH on the NL and end the debate for good. Defacto interleague play will be an everyday occurance and that is what he’s been after all along.

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by Oldfoagie on Sep 14, 2011 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

Alot oh these fans believe Selig will impose the DH on the NL and end the debate for good. Defacto interleague play will be an everyday occurance and that is what he’s been after all along.

I can see where this is coming from. I just don’t get how Selig, who grew up an NL guy, in an age where the league differences meant more that they do now, kills the NL like that.

Rockies in the AL? I have no idea how I’d deal with that.

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-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.

by RdRnnr on Sep 14, 2011 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'd totally be OK with it.

Not because I love the AL or anything, I just love changing things up.

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by Andrew Martin on Sep 14, 2011 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'd be ok with it too

Although we would definitely be going to a harder division

by purplesocks on Sep 14, 2011 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

Me too

But only if the DH is going to be imposed on both leagues. If the NL remains DH-less, then I would rather stay put.

by Northsider1964 on Sep 14, 2011 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

You're probably right

If we had a DH, I wouldn’t have to watch Drew Goodman get all giddy in the late innings because our .133-hitting, .233-slugging pinch hitter is coming to the plate.

by Northsider1964 on Sep 14, 2011 12:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

We signed Adam Dunn?

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by Muzia on Sep 14, 2011 12:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

Close

I mean if the ROOT crew wants to talk about Giambi being productive in his twice-a-month gig as the backup 1B, so be it – his numbers are good there. But when we’re in a PH situation late in the game, please give it a freaking rest already.

by Northsider1964 on Sep 14, 2011 12:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

omg more Giambiiiiiiiii

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by Resolution on Sep 14, 2011 3:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

This will be considered blasphemy here,

but I’d rather have balanced leagues and a more-balanced schedule than the pitcher hitting.

by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 14, 2011 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I wouldn't mind too mcuh either

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by Muzia on Sep 14, 2011 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

In the end, it will happen some day.

They aren’t getting rid of the DH, ever.

They aren’t contracting teams, ever.

And it might be decades before they expand again.

I think this change will happen before we see 2020.

by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 14, 2011 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

One that plays to big innings.

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by Oldfoagie on Sep 14, 2011 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

We have gotten the Tigers a lot

There was a break in the middle, but it seems like Rockies-Tigers has been a fixture in the early years of each the past two decades. I think someone in the MLB office is fixated on the old Avs-Wings rivalry, and thinks it carries over to baseball. Maybe that’s why we get the Athletics a lot too.

by Northsider1964 on Sep 14, 2011 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

I bet they do...

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by Muzia on Sep 14, 2011 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ha.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Sep 14, 2011 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

HAHA

Oops – *West coast road trip.

I'm pretty disgusted right now!

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 14, 2011 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the welcome

I actually just changed by screen name. I was tired of having my name show up and having a Rockie alias is much more appropriate.

Thanks for running down the schedule. September stood out as well and your point of the rainouts is a real cause for concern. We may need to go 7 deep in the rotation for two months!

by Cargo'es Yard on Sep 14, 2011 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

We may need to go 7 deep in the rotation

Rockies re-sign Greg Reynolds
Rockies re-sign Clayton Mortenson
Rockies re-sign Aaron Cook
Rockies re-sign Felipe Pauli—-

Pitching Derpth!

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by Muzia on Sep 14, 2011 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

Ah you're osierra

Fyi, if you wanted to, you could’ve kept your previous acct/associated email and changed the username (it’d keep your comment count, blog memberships, etc) if you emailed support. No big deal either way, but for anyone else wanting to change their username….

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 14, 2011 12:43 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

I figured there was a way

should’ve posted the question instead of having to wait 24 hours to repost under my new alias.

by Cargo'es Yard on Sep 14, 2011 12:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

It's still not too late to switch the old account

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by Muzia on Sep 14, 2011 12:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

Derp.

And that Tuesday is an off day. So the recovery day is wasted!

"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.

by RdRnnr on Sep 14, 2011 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

Strange that we don't see the Cubs in Denver until the final week of the season

That could reduce the size of the drunken blue swarm to some degree – though I hasten to add that I’m only talking about the number, not the girth.

Also found this note interesting:
“Other highlights include the Rockies’ first trip to the to-be-renamed Miami Marlins​’ new downtown ballpark May 21-23.”

Shows how old I am. I still have a Marlins hat with an “M” on it from when the Fish used them for a brief period the first time around.

by Northsider1964 on Sep 14, 2011 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

I was hoping the Rockies would by in SF

the same time Toronto was in Oakland to plan a trip out there, missed it by a week, FML

by Rosenort on Sep 14, 2011 11:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

and the Giants come here

the same time Toronto is in Oakland, so damn close.

by Rosenort on Sep 14, 2011 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

rec ...just because

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 9:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

Green

just because

Get well soon Juan.

by Thnikkaman on Sep 14, 2011 9:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

A day without a green "F the Gints"

is like a day without sunshine, rain, water, air…

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 9:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

One of those things is great

The other not so much.

Get well soon Juan.

by Thnikkaman on Sep 14, 2011 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

They are both great

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 10:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

ivtioyc

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 10:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

bah...messed that up

ietioyc

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

I envision the intention of your comment

otherwise known as

icwydt

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

A lot better than us?

Well that’s not hard to do!

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

Looking at last years numbers, we had the same problems in the 6th, 9th, and extra innings

2010
Split | R | RA | Difference | % Dif
1st inning | 93 | 70 | 23 | 14%
2nd inning | 78 | 71 | 7 | 5%
3rd inning | 124 | 96 | 28 | 13%
4th inning | 80 | 76 | 4 | 3%
5th inning | 88 | 85 | 3 | 2%
6th inning | 71 | 92 | -21 | -13%
7th inning | 76 | 67 | 9 | 6%
8th inning | 105 | 86 | 19 | 10%
9th inning | 45 | 57 | -12 | -12%
Ext inning | 10 | 17 | -7 | -26%
Total | 770 | 717 | 53 | 4%

Sorry that it is tough to read. I added a | to hopefully make the separation a little easier.

Without having to post and format more tables, in 2009 we actually had a 33% positive difference in the 6th inning, -2% in the 9th, and positive 5% in extras.

In 2008 we had big negatives in the 1st (-15%), 2nd (-12%), 6th (-22%) and extras (-11%) without any big positive differences. The ninth was actually 0% difference.

I don’t really know how to read into any of these numbers or what we can do to improve.

by purplesocks on Sep 14, 2011 10:02 AM MDT reply actions  

6th inning negatives seem to be a recurring them

My immediate thought is that we’ve had too many starting pitchers who can’t get through the 6th inning, including pretty much the whole rotation other than Ubaldo this year.

James Shields would like a word with starting pitchers who think their work is mostly done when they go 5 and qualify for a W.

2011 Rockies -- what the hell?

by maris61 on Sep 14, 2011 12:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

So we are getting killed in innings that are a multiple of 3?

Larry Walker would NEVER have allowed this to happen….

We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!

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by Junction Rox on Sep 14, 2011 10:54 AM MDT reply actions  

Funny link

http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15045

2008 Willy Taveras is the sixth-worst full-time position player since 1961. There are also two 2011 White Sox on that list, as well as a Rockies legend.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Sep 14, 2011 11:03 AM MDT reply actions  

and by legend, I don't mean Jose Hernandez.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Sep 14, 2011 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

Surprising.

Taveras stole a ton of bases that year (still terrible offensively I know)

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by CentralCaliRox on Sep 14, 2011 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

Braves trailing late again

Down 1-0 to the Fish, bottom of the 7th.

I’m no Braves fan, but I really want them to put Tony Excussa and Brian Sabean out of my misery, please.

by Northsider1964 on Sep 14, 2011 11:50 AM MDT reply actions  

Ah, Braves explode for 4 runs in the 7th, lead 4-1

can’t believe I’m pulling for the Braves, but the postseason alternatives make me want to hurl.

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Viagra.

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by Muzia on Sep 14, 2011 1:01 PM MDT up reply actions   2 recs

say dirty things to it.

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by hotdoglady on Sep 14, 2011 1:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

stroke it a little

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by papality on Sep 14, 2011 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

"Hey guys, I lost count...

Whose turn is it to get a favorable call at the plate? I left my makeup call clicker at home, and there’s no way I’m actually going to watch the plays closely. That’s wayyyy too much work."

by Northsider1964 on Sep 14, 2011 1:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

You stand it up like that.

If I remember correctly, modern bats have a bit of a hollow cylinder at the end.

Get well soon Juan.

by Thnikkaman on Sep 14, 2011 1:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Stop bringing facts into our dirty world

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 1:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

...

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by hotdoglady on Sep 14, 2011 1:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

smartass

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Sep 14, 2011 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

THAT's the comment you choose to single out as "smartass?"

must have z’d past all the others….

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by papality on Sep 14, 2011 1:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

it's part of the PR memes...

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by hotdoglady on Sep 14, 2011 1:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

I thought about doing a top 10 pr memes

list this offseason.

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by hotdoglady on Sep 14, 2011 1:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

yes please :)


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by butterfly on Sep 14, 2011 1:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

I might have to do it before the end of september...

won’t be around PR much after I get the new position…at least during the day.

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by hotdoglady on Sep 14, 2011 1:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure what the top 10 would be, but here is what I can think of:

animal house, like people don’t read, z’d right past it (with the addition of the computer being too fast), centurion, gynocracy, airplane quote, friends theme, catcher wars, maria and wieners, Jorge love, MATCHUPZ, LOLCOORZ, jim tracy’s magic hat and/or eight ball, /rirfsuperhappyface.jpg, success baby, twss, icwydt, iawtc, non-obvious player nicknames: CDI, DLR, Garry Smith, walkapotamus,

Some of these are less memes than others.

Holly being the voice of reason is almost a meme at this point, although it’s really just Holly being Holly.

by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 14, 2011 2:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm glad that

you think my love of wieners is a meme

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by hotdoglady on Sep 14, 2011 2:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

Are they mutually exclusive?

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 2:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

"twss, icwydt, iawtc" aren't memes

That’s be like saying “lol” is a meme

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by Andrew Martin on Sep 14, 2011 2:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

well they are memes

they’re just not PR memes

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by papality on Sep 14, 2011 2:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

I would say that they are memes,

just not PR memes. But new people here often ask what they are.

by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 14, 2011 2:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

more than half of those started in 2010 or earlier

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 14, 2011 4:09 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

the non-existence of Cat?

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by Junction Rox on Sep 14, 2011 5:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

Heh.

You know what’s funny. I think I started at least 3 of those memes. Pretty good for a non-existent entity

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 5:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'd say you are definitely our MVN-ee

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by Junction Rox on Sep 14, 2011 5:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

Most Valuable Non-Existent Entity?

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 5:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

DING DING DING

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by Junction Rox on Sep 14, 2011 5:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nice....at least have some value

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 6:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

I just came to tell you both good luck, we're all counting on you.

You forgot the meme that everything bad is my fault

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by Jeff Aberle on Sep 14, 2011 6:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

Using what criteria?

Top 10 in prevalence, or Top 10 in quality? Because those might be very different lists.

by holly96 on Sep 14, 2011 2:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

Good point.

Maybe I will do a top 10 of my favorite – and use the comments section for others to post theirs.

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by hotdoglady on Sep 14, 2011 2:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

It's Tulo. The bat stands up because Tulo touched it.

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 1:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

I hear choir music...


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by butterfly on Sep 14, 2011 1:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

So that's how he got that ripped physique?

Like Q before him, the Fonz should be demanding a refund.

by Northsider1964 on Sep 14, 2011 2:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

Gravy - good PED or best PED?

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by Junction Rox on Sep 14, 2011 5:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

Whoaaaaaa......

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 2:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

Poor CDI missing all those games to a PEDer

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 2:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

indeed...


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by butterfly on Sep 14, 2011 2:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

although now that I've jumped to conclusions...he intends to fight it...so maybe he's not guilty

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 2:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

true, maybe


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by butterfly on Sep 14, 2011 3:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

He also claimed that he didn't knowingly take steroids last time.

It was bronchitis medicine, supposedly.

So. Certainly not guilty yet, but he’ll have a tough time convincing people otherwise.

by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 14, 2011 3:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

Explains why he could hit cleanup.

But on a more sober note, that’s two guys from Colorado Springs in the past month. I fear there’s a problem down there.

by Charlie77 on Sep 14, 2011 2:13 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

meh

He’s a repeat offender.

by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 14, 2011 3:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

hmm, he's also a north american athlete....

i wonder if there’s some sort of pattern here….

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by papality on Sep 14, 2011 2:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

Shoot, he was my last hope for a fracas with the Giants

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 2:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

Just saw that on my ESPN Scorecenter update thing

I’ll main page it.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Sep 14, 2011 2:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

MCC responds, "Rockies ARE cheaters!!!!!111!!!"

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by RdRnnr on Sep 14, 2011 2:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh they only care if we cheat with "teh humidorz"

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 2:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

I would LOVE for MCC to make a big deal about Alfonzo and PEDs

Nothing would make me happier. Grant is smarter than that though, I think.

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by BittenAnkles on Sep 14, 2011 3:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

Add this to the list of things Alfonzo does better than Rosario and Iannetta

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by Muzia on Sep 14, 2011 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

OUCH

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

boom, roasted

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by papality on Sep 14, 2011 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Cargo? The countdown is beginning to number 30. 25 down. 5 to go.
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by Roxman4ever on Sep 14, 2011 2:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

maybe that’s why Tracy hates him. Spellcheck doesn’t recognize Iannetta.

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by Resolution on Sep 14, 2011 3:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

you're killng this one

granted, it’s a pretty easy target, but still, you’re nailing it time after time!!!

by RMC7511 on Sep 14, 2011 3:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

Darn. Our 40 man HAR just took a hit

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 2:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thats too bad

we might have room for an emergency catcher with Alfonzo gone.

by Rosenort on Sep 14, 2011 3:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Didn't Pacheco catch some in springs?


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by butterfly on Sep 14, 2011 3:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

yes, quite a bit

but they seem set on him playing in the field, just could pick someone up to take Alfonzo’s 40 man spot and let Pacheco focus on infield

by Rosenort on Sep 14, 2011 3:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Us

1. Dexter Fowler (S) CF
2. Mark Ellis® 2B
3. Carlos Gonzalez (L) RF
4. Jason Giambi (L) 1B
5. Seth Smith (L) LF
6. Jordan Pacheco® 3B
7. Wilin Rosario® C
8. Thomas Field® SS
9. Kevin Millwood® P

Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Cargo? The countdown is beginning to number 30. 25 down. 5 to go.
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by Roxman4ever on Sep 14, 2011 2:20 PM MDT reply actions  

Welcome to the team 2012...Rosario


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by butterfly on Sep 14, 2011 2:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

them

1. Corey Hart® RF
2. Nyjer Morgan (L) CF
3. Ryan Braun® LF
4. Prince Fielder (L) 1B
5. Rickie Weeks® 2B
6. Casey McGehee® 3B
7. Yuniesky Betancourt® SS
8. Jonathan Lucroy® C
9. Shaun Marcum® P

Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Cargo? The countdown is beginning to number 30. 25 down. 5 to go.
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by Roxman4ever on Sep 14, 2011 2:20 PM MDT reply actions  

When it's Us versus Them, you can always count on me

when it’s us versus them, it’s a global unity!

Whooooooooooooooooaaa ooooooooooooh oh

HEY HEY HEY

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Sep 14, 2011 2:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Boston loses 5-4 and leaves the door ajar for Tampa

Despite outscoring the Blue Jays 22-11 in this brief two game series, they only earned a split.

I'm pretty disgusted right now!

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 14, 2011 2:38 PM MDT reply actions  

In fact

The Red Sox have now outscored their opponents 58-52 in their last 10 games but are 2-8 in that stretch.

I'm pretty disgusted right now!

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 14, 2011 2:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh no!!!

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 3:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

gosh darn it!

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by papality on Sep 14, 2011 3:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Even more fun

They’ve been 10-8 vs the Jays this year, yet outscored them by 60 runs in those games.

by TtD on Sep 14, 2011 5:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Renck Tweets....

So is this another new suspicion or old news?

Rockies Dominican Summer League right hander Randol Rogers was suspended 50 games after testing positive for a metabolite of Boldenone

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 4:22 PM MDT reply actions  

It's the first I've heard of it,

but to be fair I have no idea who that guy is.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Sep 14, 2011 4:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

I guess I'm just concerned that three of our guys have had these

issues….

/concerned

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 4:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm not...

this happens with lower-level latin players all of the time, and Alfonzo already was suspended before he was in the Rockies’ organization.

It’s mostly coincidental, I’m sure.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Sep 14, 2011 4:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

Alfonzo and Jacobs

are fringe major leaguers, AAAA types, those are the guys I would think are looking for that little boost, not concerned at all.

by Rosenort on Sep 14, 2011 4:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Okay. That makes sense.

Thanks for the reality check

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 4:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

Changes afoot per Renck
Jeff Bridich, formerly the Rockies Senior Director of Baseball Operations, will step into the role of Senior Director of Player Development

1 minute ago
Troy Renck, Rockies
TroyRenck Troy Renck, Rockies

Some notes: Marc Gustafson has been named Senior Director of Scouting Operations. Gustafson has served Senior Director of Player Development

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 4:40 PM MDT reply actions  

Sylvester will have responsibilities in statistical analysis and the First Year Player Draft
Walter Sylvester, 41, moves from his role in player development to a Baseball Operations Assistant position
Zach Wilson will assist Bridrich along with Walker Monfort
Zack Rosenthal, 31, has been promoted to Manager of Baseball Operations/Assistant General Counsel

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 4:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

Zack Rosenthal, 31, has been promoted

SIGH.

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by Muzia on Sep 14, 2011 4:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah. Must be nice huh

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 4:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

Man, did I ever waste my life...

not really, but sometimes you wonder.

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by RdRnnr on Sep 14, 2011 4:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

meh

It’s been pretty good to me. From what I understand, people who work at that level of MLB work like dogs, travel a lot, and never see their families. I will say no to those three.

by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 14, 2011 4:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm ignoring the reality of the job

and focusing on the dream of a career in baseball operations, where the grass is always green.

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by Muzia on Sep 14, 2011 4:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

I would end up trying to fix their power play :)

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by Muzia on Sep 14, 2011 4:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

I can't remember the last run they scored with a man advantage

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by Junction Rox on Sep 14, 2011 5:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

definitely shuffled

though it remains to be seen if that was a bad thing

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by Resolution on Sep 14, 2011 4:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh, no.

I was talking with Resolution about this. If the organization is too “in love” with its own players, I’d be inclined to say that Gustafson being promoted will only continue this flaw.

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by Andrew Martin on Sep 14, 2011 4:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm okay with that particular move

Indifferent on the rest.

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by Muzia on Sep 14, 2011 5:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

True.

It depends on how segregated their operations are; do they run autonomously or is there a lot of congress in their decision making, with the Sr Dir getting the final say?

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by Andrew Martin on Sep 14, 2011 5:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

it might not even matter

if everyone is concerned with being best friends and stuff.

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by Resolution on Sep 14, 2011 5:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

well lets hope that these changes are for the best

just the same way the org may be too in love with its players, it also may be too in love with its FO (not that I mean that as an indictment of anyone in particular, but rather this type of stuff just happens a lot)

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by Resolution on Sep 14, 2011 5:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yep

I just wonder if these moves are just rearranging their own guys without really making any changes.

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by Andrew Martin on Sep 14, 2011 4:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

Who was previously the Senior Director of Scouting Operations?

And who will now be the Senior Director of Baseball Operations?

by holly96 on Sep 14, 2011 5:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

:D

Geddy Lee loves the Rockies, I don’t care what his nationality is.

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by Andrew Martin on Sep 14, 2011 5:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

for clarification I did know that was not you in your avatar.

We had a discussion about Geddy Lee and his love of the Rockies last year
I know you know I was kidding , but others on here might not know just how cool I am ..haha


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by butterfly on Sep 14, 2011 5:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

bahhahaha

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 5:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

thanks!

I’m a fan as well.

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by Andrew Martin on Sep 14, 2011 5:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

You mean
I swear, the Carpenters are like the soundtrack for being in love in the 70s always.

True story. I mentioned to one of my millennial generation staff the song “Rainy Days and Mondays.” She had no idea what I was talking about. I am deeply concerned about the future of America.

by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 14, 2011 5:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

It's just that blatantly 70s feel to it

I can see why people wouldn’t be up to snuff on it.

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by Andrew Martin on Sep 14, 2011 5:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

But everything that is old is cool again. Retro my friend

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 5:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

Actually I never did that

I’ve had long layered hair most of my life. Never did the Farrah or the big hair. I’ve done the straight bangs and sideswept bangs off and on over the years. No bangs now, just long layers

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by SDcat09 on Sep 14, 2011 5:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

Maybe he's just too valuable where he is

But I sure wouldn’t mind seeing Rolando Fernandez’s name showing up on the promotions list someday. He seems to evaluate talent at a pretty solid level compared to, well, just about everybody else in the house.

by Northsider1964 on Sep 14, 2011 5:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

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