Saturday Rockpile: As Injuries Mount, Rockies' Rookies Getting a Shot
by Bryan Kilpatrick on Sep 17, 2011 9:50 AM MDT
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In a somewhat-surprising move, the Rockies recalled Hector Gomez from AA Tulsa yesterday, presumably to help with the middle infield depth while Troy Tulowitzki and Jonathan Herrera are on the shelf with injuries. Gomez, who probably as talented of a guy as there is in the organization, had a miserable season at Tulsa, hitting just .235/.272/.416 with 14 homers.
Gomez is similar to Chris Nelson - a toolsy guy who has missed several full seasons, which has undoubtedly stunted his development. Gomez is just 23 years old, so he still has time on his side. He went 0-for-2 in his major league debut last night, with a hard lineout and a strikeout.
Gomez obviously isn't the only rookie to get some at-bats/innings this season. Here's a quick look at some SSS-laced stats for the rest of the next generation of new purple pinstripers - all who have made their big league debuts in 2011:
There are a couple of real ugly lines in there, particularly Blackmon and White. Obviously, Blackmon won't get a chance to improve on his. White, meanwhile, should have his ridiculous HR rate normalize soon. However, he has A LOT of work to do.
One more link after the jump...
Rockies' Gonzalez wants to finish season on a tear - The Denver Post
With a very strong finish (which is completely reasonable for a guy like Carlos Gonzalez when he's healthy), CarGo has a chance at another .300/30/100 season. However, he and the team really need to play it smart with his nagging wrist injury; meaningless milestones should not deter Gonzalez from giving himself a chance to fully recover during the offseason and be ready for a pivotal 2012. Also in the article, Jim Armstrong mentions that there are no plans for the Rockies to bench Gonzalez, Troy Tulowitzki, or Todd Helton for the rest of the season - although I wouldn't be opposed to it whatsoever.
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White's clearly not a MLB pitcher right now....
The 11 homers and 17/14 K/BB ratio say it all. He needs more time in AA/AAA before coming here to stay. So, I woudn’t count on White making the rotation out of ST, even if he does well. He needs to dominate for a few weeks down in the minors first before being given another shot, IMO.
Let’s keep our fingers crossed that Pomeranz can continue showing that he belongs here. If neither him nor White are in our rotation to start 2012, the trade will turn out to be harmful to our 2012 chances. Ubaldo pitched well again last night in gaining his 10th win. I think a bounceback to 2009 levels is in the cards for him next year, though I doubt he gets all the way back to 2010 dominance. Gee, I really miss Ubaldo on this team, down year or not.
To what extent is the finger injury affecting White?
Before he came up, I was hearing that he was polished and MLB ready. He doesn’t look that way at all, so hopefully “polished” doesn’t mean “little room for improvement”. I find it hard to believe that he could really be this bad. I think I’ve heard the announcers talking about his injury lately. Did they rush him up to the majors too fast?
White looks like he needs a full offseason to rediscover the feel for his pitches..
He has so many in his arsenal that his lack of consistent playing time this year is caused him to lose his command. Drew will outplay Ubaldo next season. He was dominating in his last start and that was only touching 91 on the gun. Once his strength is built up, he’s going to be a monster.
So, two things:
1) White is coming off of an injury to his finger as well as pitching for his first time in a new organization. You might want to withhold judgements. He’s not going down to the minors because of his handful of garbage starts at the end of the year. Even in this weakened state, he blew away AA, and our AAA setting is a joke. He has an entire offseason. Unless he has a disastrous offseason, he is in the rotation at the start of 2012.
2) Ubaldo gave up 5 hits and 3 walks in 6 1/3 on 106 pitches. If this is pitching well for Ubaldo, it only shows how far he has fallen. His WHIP with Cleveland, with all of these “good starts,” is 1.406. He isn’t coming close to 2009 numbers now, and I’m pretty sure he won’t in 2012.
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 17, 2011 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions
Why are you so certain that White will improve but Ubaldo won't?
I think both will probably be better next year. We just have less information to tell us what White will actually be in the majors.
Age regression curves, essentially
although I think Ubaldo will improve to some extent.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 17, 2011 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions
Because White is not pitching how he has shown he can pitch very recently.
We have not seen the White who pitched even earlier this year for the Indians. His struggles seem directly related to his ability to consistently finesse his pitches, and also when he gets into higher pitch counts. Both of these issues point to the process of bouncing back from an injury.
The most important thing to remember is that the White we have seen with the Rockies is not the standard White. It isn’t that he has never shown promise and is over his head. He has shown the promise, nut is off his game. There is a possibility that you won’t recover, but I consider that slim.
Ubaldo is now going on 1 1/2 seasons of disappointing (for Ubaldo) performances. The change of scenery and the benefit of being in a league with teams without a complete scouting book on him has not brought about much noticeable rebound. With the an entire offseason of scouting on him by the AL teams, he’s going to go into 2012 needing a pretty strong rebound just to return to the numbers that he is putting up with Cleveland this season.
I think Ubaldo will rebound to be a slightly above average pitcher, with an ERA+ of say, 105–115. But the days of Ubaldo the ace are gone.
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 17, 2011 11:14 AM MDT up reply actions
Let's not forget White's ludicrous HR/FB rate
Which currently sits at 24.1%
Even if he’s the most home run prone pitcher in the league next year, that number will see a significant drop.
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"1.5 seasons of disappointing performances?"
“Rebound to slightly above average?”
Man your standards here are awfully fuzzy for the 2 different guys. You might want to go back and look at Sept/Oct last year too. I guess the guy just set the standards for himself way too high. Good for Wayback that he’s kinda doing the opposite right now.
Way too early to get too nervous about Wayback as a prospect, I still love him and obviously y’all do to. But dude’s got a lot of stuff to work on this offseason. Leaving the barrage of bombs aside, dude has yet to once pitch into the 7th in his career. I doubt he starts the year in the minors, but that says a lot more about the Rox likely staff than it does about the kid showing anything at this level.
Ok. Let's look at stats.
Sept and Oct 2010 for Ubaldo.
7 Games
45 1/3 IP (6.4 innings per game average)
34 Hits
23 Walks
WHIP: 1.26
This is not an ace. This is an above average pitcher taking a #2 or #3 spot. Notice that I wrote disappointing for Ubaldo. His average pitch count in this period is 112 pitches per game, even though the average innings count is 6.4. If you have an ace who usually can’t get out of the 7th inning , you don’t really have an ace.
Ubaldo didn’t set the standards alone. He was supposedly an ace. He was an ace for a period of time. That period of time ended some time in the middle of June 2010. Is he still going to be an above average pitcher? Yes. I said that in the previous post. But this idea that Ubaldo is going to put a WHIP under 1.2 and an ERA+ over 135 for a season is a delusion. That Ubaldo is gone.
As far as standards, they should be different for a veteran pitcher and a pitcher who won’t even be a rookie until next year. At the same time, White will probably NEVER have an ERA+ above 135 in his career. But that’s ok, because he’s not slotted to ever be the ace of this staff.
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 17, 2011 2:53 PM MDT up reply actions
No mention of the 54 Ks?
Or that 4 of those starts resulted in 2 or fewer runs? I don’t think anyone is still confusing Uball with Halladay, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t avoid statements like “rebound to slightly above average” when the guy has been well above that standard for pretty much his entire career, and is arguably pitching above that standard now (his recent Cleve line would look pretty welcome to the Rox lately).
If you are going to give White a break for pitching post-injury, why no such love for Uball? And why no recognition that the HR and BB problems we are seeing from White were on display in his Cle small sample? I’m not so sure you can chalk it all up to injury. But we shall see, he’s obviously very young and my purpose here is not to bang on him.
Uball was one of the best pitchers in baseball for 2 straight years and was undoubtedly the best pitcher this franchise has ever seen (without sight of second place). Maybe some people really don’t like him for whatever reason, or more likely just want to bring him down to feel better about the trade. Certainly he’s giving his critics some fodder. Depressing that so many of those critics reside here. To each their own.
Let me repeat this:
White is a non-rookie prospect. Ubaldo is a supposed ace.
I am not chalking all of White’s struggles up to injury either.
Ubaldo can rebound to slightly above average because right now, he is below average. His ERA+ for the season in 97. For his time in Cleveland is 87. The league average is 100. I expect him to rebound to an ERA+ of about 105–115, which is above average. This would be about a 15 to 20 point improvement, which is pretty good, but it’s also where he was in 2008. I see no evidence to the contrary this from you. The best you’ve done is accuse me of bringing him down to feel better about the trade. If listing his stats is brining him down, then I’m guilty.
I am not taking away 2009 and 2010 from Ubaldo. But just because he pitched well in those two years does not mean that he will pitch like that forever. I have seen no evidence that he will pitch like that again.
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 17, 2011 3:33 PM MDT up reply actions
you mean White is a rookie prospect
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 17, 2011 5:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Well
I don’t agree that ERA+ (or any macro metric) really tells much of a useful story here in context, and I have no idea what “evidence” means to you in terms of evaluating pitchers given the disparate treatment of Ubaldo/White history, but I’ll grant you this: if the 2011 Ubaldo velocity is the go-forward velo, he’s probably never going to be more than an SP3. But if he gets that juice back…
Isn't the cure to the whole 'AAA setting is a joke'...
…cutting off C-Springs and doing whatever it takes to get an International League affiliate instead?
Rox Girl vs C77 bet update:
What’s funny is how spot on RG’s comments about Hector are:
Gomez is likely to add near zero value in 2011, so it’s a pretty even split.
~ Rox Girl
So with Hector Gomez making his debut last night, my spring bet with RG is looking interesting!
Jose Lopez -0.3 fWAR
Hector Gomez 0.0 fWAR
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This year sucks.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 17, 2011 12:47 PM MDT up reply actions
I respond to the response: lol, I went out of state.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 17, 2011 2:37 PM MDT up reply actions
I also went out of state.
But for some reason I’ve also been a CU fan my entire life. So root for one alma mater and one hometown team. And my brother went to CU for post-grad, so at least I’ve got that connection.
I've never followed football, but if I did, I'd probably be in USC's camp just because.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 17, 2011 2:41 PM MDT up reply actions
No that's ASU
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This is a great thread
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Well, one of these teams beat the Bears...
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 17, 2011 2:37 PM MDT up reply actions
This kind of OT:
I know that everyone would like to get Pujols. Would we want Fielder also? I know that the Rockies ain’t got that kind of money, HOWEVER, do you think that Cargo and Tulo would be willing to restructure their contracts so that one of them could be signed by us?
This may have opened a can of worms, but could it be possibility that this could happen?
I think Fielder commits to many errors. I would rather have Albert instead. Then again, WHO WOULDN’T?
Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
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You'd need 200M at the absolute least.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 17, 2011 1:48 PM MDT up reply actions
over how many years?
Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
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A decadeish
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Also, is there a way to find out Albert's numbers at Coors. I'm looking at BR and I'm finding nothing on that
Would it be only SSS?
Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
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it depends on how big the sample is
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 17, 2011 1:51 PM MDT up reply actions
Whether or not a sample is small depends on how big it is....
That’s the kinds of stuff you can only get from a Mines education, folks!!
;-)
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Pujols at Coors:
158 PA, .285/.367/.547, 9 HR, 32 RBI, .915 OPS
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That is pretty decent.
And the Prince?
Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
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Prince at Coors:
94 PA, .273/.394/.519, 4 HR, 10 RBI, .913 OPS
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looks like Pujols would be better.
My question is….Could we swing it IF Cargo and Tulo both restructure their contracts?
Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
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No, and why would we?
I think it would be EXTREMELY disrespectful to the greatest player to ever don a Rockies uniform.
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Hitting coach?
Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
I was just thinking about that. See below.
Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
Would Pujols play 3rd?
Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
plus another problem is...
What about Helton?
Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
Rockies lineup
Young LF
Fowler CF
Pacheco 3B
Giambi 1B
Wigginton RF
Ellis 2B
Rosario C
Gomez SS
Pomeranz P
Wiggy in RF…God help us
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considering our mathematical elimination
I’m pretty sure God has moved on…
Unless God is forcing Tracy to make stupid decisions in the hopes that we start next year with a better manager!!
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I hope Dex can cover the entire outfield.
Or Pom strikes everyone out.
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I will take the 2nd option thank you
Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
Too bad he's still being stretched out.
Though 81 pitches might be doable…
"Are they called the Rockies because they rock?" - 7 y.o.
They said his limit is 85.
If he ends the 8th inning with 80 pitches. They should let him pitch
Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
Tracy let Smith play against LHP last night against a pretty good pitcher.
But, he won’t let him play against a freaking rookie? JT needs to go. Sorry, I’ve kept my mouth shut until now, but it high time that he needs to hand the reigns over to someone else. I would rather take my chances with Smith in right than the Wiggington OF experience.
Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
by Roxman4ever on Sep 17, 2011 2:45 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wiggy + EY2
Ugh.
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Screw it...Just call up Wheeler and have him play. We have nothing else to lose.
Why not just throw out a entire rookie lineup out there? I bet they could piece one together. Find a 2nd baseman and there you go
Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
by Roxman4ever on Sep 17, 2011 2:49 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm with you on that.
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Can Field play 2nd?
Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
Yes
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 17, 2011 3:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Lineup
C-Rosario
1st- Pacheco
2nd-Field
3rd-Arenado
SS-Gomez
and then fill in the OF with rookies that you would like to see play.
P-Pomeranz
Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
HAve fun with it.
Get Kyle Parker up here
Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
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Why would they call up Arenado
just call up Matt Macri or someone like that
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 17, 2011 3:25 PM MDT up reply actions
as long as its a rookie.
What’s wrong with Rutledge?
Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
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You're picking a lot of A ball guys.
A ball guys don’t get called to the majors on a regular basis.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 17, 2011 3:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Or, like, ever.
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
Well, there is nothing else to lose.
Its a lost season. It’ll just like 2011. All screwed up.
Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
But calling up guys from A ball to the bigs
You’re quite likely to completely screw up their development. It’s just a really, really bad idea.
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
Playing Wiggy in the OF is a bad idea also, but you don't see that crap changing
Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
by Roxman4ever on Sep 17, 2011 3:53 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Playing Wiggy in the OF isn't going to affect the future of any players.
And with CarGo out, out outfield is going to suffer either way.
I could see an argument for letting Seth Smith bat more against LH pitchers, just to see what would happen.
But not for bringing up guys who just aren’t ready.
"Are they called the Rockies because they rock?" - 7 y.o.
Yeah, wrecking player development is something we can lose.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 17, 2011 3:34 PM MDT up reply actions
Most importantly, guys have to be on the 40 man roster to get called up
Wheeler and Rutledge are not. Gomez and Field were. That’s the big difference. You’d have to release a player just to give Wheeler one or two starts.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 17, 2011 5:21 PM MDT up reply actions
Field was not (I think)
but he was going to be protected at the end of the season any way
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JFK
He did in Tulsa.
Wheeler’s not on the 40-man roster, though, is he?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 17, 2011 5:21 PM MDT up reply actions
You're a funny guy
I’ve kept my mouth shut until now,
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 17, 2011 5:20 PM MDT up reply actions 3 recs
outstanding
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 17, 2011 5:24 PM MDT up reply actions
You will probably be right.
HAVE YOU SEEN OUR LINEUP FOR TODAY. truly ridiculous. i hate bruce bochy so much.
by you'vejustbeenCAINED on Sep 17, 2011 3:45 PM MDT up reply actions
them... All righties except for the pitcher. Switch hitters will be going right
1. Andres Torres (S) CF
2. Jeff Keppinger® 2B
3. Carlos Beltran (S) RF
4. Mark DeRosa® 3B
5. Brett Pill® 1B
6. Orlando Cabrera® SS
7. Justin Christian® LF
8. Chris Stewart® C
9. Eric Surkamp (L) P
Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
so terrible
i’m embarrassed for my team.
by you'vejustbeenCAINED on Sep 17, 2011 3:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Hopefully they hit everything up the middle, cause the Rockies' corner defense doesn't look pretty today.
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Have you taken a look at our lineup?
Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
bochy refuses to play brandon belt against lefties
even though he has a better split against let handed pitching. it’s mind-blowingly infuriating. also no panda makes me sad. but he can’t bat from the right side cause of his hurt shoulder :[
I am also going to guarantee you at least one clank-tastic error from orlando cabrera tonight. and two strikeouts where he walks off looking stupid and confused.
by you'vejustbeenCAINED on Sep 17, 2011 4:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Sounds like Tracy with Smith.
So were both pissed off at the managers. Were even
Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Im waiting for the famous Wiggington screw up in the OF tonight
Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
and for him to GIDP with basees loaded and 1 out
Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
Why even watch the game if you're already so sure it's all over?
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 17, 2011 5:25 PM MDT up reply actions
us for Cained
1. Eric Young (S) LF
2. Dexter Fowler (S) CF
3. Jordan Pacheco® 3B
4. Jason Giambi (L) 1B
5. Ty Wigginton® RF
6. Mark Ellis® 2B
7. Wilin Rosario® C
8. Hector Gomez® SS
9. Drew Pomeranz® P
Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
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