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Esmil Rogers Eviscerated by Mighty Giants Lineup, Rockies Lose 12-5

DENVER, CO - SEPTEMBER 18 :  Eric Young, Jr. #1 of the Colorado Rockies dives unsuccessfully for a fly ball in the outfield against the San Francisco Giants during their game at Coors Field on Sunday September 18, 2011 in Denver, Colorado. The play resulted in a triple for the San Francisco Giants' Pablo Sandoval. (Photo by Marc Piscotty/Getty Images)

Looks like I made a good decision in going to the Broncos game instead of watching this train wreck. The Giants hit six homers in the game and had nine extra base hits -- all in the first six innings -- to complete the four game sweep over the hapless Rockies. Four of those homers and eight runs came in the fourth inning, including two long balls by Pablo Sandoval. Oh by the way, the Giants have scored by far the fewest runs in the NL this season. With the loss, Colorado officially clinched a losing season.

In what I sincerely hope will be his final major league start, Esmil Rogers was terrible. I mean, of the seven hits he allowed over 3.2 IP, the first six went for extra bases and four were home runs -- including a ball tatered to dead center by pitcher Matt Cain. He allowed nine runs in the 3.2 IP, raising his ERA to 6.64 and his WHIP to 1.83 in 78.2 IP. Greg Reynolds came on in relief and promptly allowed a Sandoval three run shot.

Offensively, both Ty Wigginton (of course) and Seth Smith had multi-hit games, but there was little that they could do after the disastrous fourth inning.

If this is what 2012 looks like, count me out. I hope that Dan O'Dowd and company just allow Jason Hammel (who threw two good innings of relief) and Kevin Millwood to provide slightly below average production from the back of the rotation rather than running out this dreck.

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We Salute: EY 2 (.089 WPA)

We Are Disappointed In: Rogers (-.364 WPA), everyone else

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Someone else's bullpen?

"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy

by SDcat09 on Sep 18, 2011 7:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Get him out of here

Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.

by Roxman4ever on Sep 18, 2011 8:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

No. Im not short sighted. He has had quite a few starts this year to prove himself and he failed.

He has shown that he is not capable of holding a spot in the rotation. He doesn’t belong there. He may not even belong in the bullpen. I started having faith in the guy earlier in the year and it has gone to hell in a handbasket. He’s had his chance. NEXT! I’m starting to think about White the same way. I understand if he still has a finger injury, and adjusting to Coors and blah blah blah. I’m willing to overlook White but if it continues into next season, then I might change my tone.

Prediction---->Well, Tulo got his 30 homers. Well, it looks like my prediction on Cargo took a bad turn. So much for 30 homers and 100 RBI's. DAMN YOU PABLO! Why did you have to hit that ball near the wall?
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.

by Roxman4ever on Sep 19, 2011 12:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think he'd be a good addition to our Mattpen

However, he has a long offseason of learning how to hide the ball better ahead of him.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Sep 19, 2011 6:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

i think he could be decent

for us out of the pen; paulino-esque

the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox

be happy, because 2012 is coming.

by papality on Sep 18, 2011 8:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

That was by far

the most depressing game I’ve ever been to at Coors field. It was like Todd Seth and the toddlers out there. There was a brief moment of excitement when a “let’s go rockies” chant broke out. That ended quickly, and the excitement was gone.

by webgem14 on Sep 18, 2011 7:53 PM MDT reply actions  

You mean:

Wow. All the Giants needed to become an offensive juggernaut was to face Rockies Sky Sox and Drillers pitching and defense.

by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 18, 2011 8:01 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

This.

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Sep 19, 2011 6:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

OT: Emmy's Kyle Chandler ...helll yeah!!!! woot

"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy

by SDcat09 on Sep 18, 2011 8:12 PM MDT reply actions  

He won for Friday Night Lights.

Come into the 21st century Petro. It won’t bite. I promise

"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy

by SDcat09 on Sep 18, 2011 8:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

Also, I crushed on him big time in Early Edition.

"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
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by SDcat09 on Sep 18, 2011 8:17 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Very deserved

Clear eyes, full hearts, can’t lose!

We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!

In line for seats at the Grand Junction Rockies 2012 home opener

by Junction Rox on Sep 18, 2011 10:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

LOVE IT

The 1st season of FNL is one of the greatest single seasons of TV I’ve ever seen no question.

I hope they win best drama. I don’t think the show ever really got back to its early form but it still deserves some recognition.

I watched Mad Men recently the first 2.5 seasons and was not impressed frankly… given all the hype and stuff. would really like to see it get knocked off this year

by ejskater on Sep 18, 2011 8:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

I love Mad Men, but was just happy for Kyle Chandler.

"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
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by SDcat09 on Sep 18, 2011 8:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

YAY! YAY! YAY!

LOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG overdue. Love the guy, and he’s been completely freaking awesome in FNL from the start. About. Damn. Time.

I miss the magic. (h/t papality)

by rockhead on Sep 18, 2011 8:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

It also won for best writing for a drama!

"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
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by SDcat09 on Sep 18, 2011 8:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

WOOT!

I miss the magic. (h/t papality)

by rockhead on Sep 18, 2011 8:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

also good

the finale was pretty good. but I didn’t like the Julie engagement or Tim and Tyra. the finale montage was good

The Son that won the emmy last year was better imo

by ejskater on Sep 18, 2011 8:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

Agree

but overall this season was pretty good.

"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy

by SDcat09 on Sep 18, 2011 8:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'll be honest...I actually teared up

because he really deserved it.
Jon Hamm needs to get it next season, because he’s quite brilliant as Don Draper

"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say: It''s playoffs or bust"- Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy

by SDcat09 on Sep 18, 2011 8:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

the rays beat boston

so there’s that

the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox

be happy, because 2012 is coming.

by papality on Sep 18, 2011 8:28 PM MDT reply actions  

I am glad I slept right through this

What a DERPfest. Wow.

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by Paleface Destro on Sep 18, 2011 8:48 PM MDT reply actions  

I won't be in a game thread until at earliest Thursday

as I’m at the games the next two days and I have to work Wednesday. I enjoy them, even if the team is terrible.

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by jrockies on Sep 18, 2011 8:57 PM MDT reply actions  

On that note

look for the quote of the day in the wraps because they are great for the next week.

"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." ~Tallulah Bankhead
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~Greg, age 8
JFK

by jrockies on Sep 18, 2011 8:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

The way Rogers and White were grooving them....

And the way any dinged up player gets a rest, one might get the impression that they are under orders to lose these games. I mean, couldn’t Tracy even try to run out a competitive lineup? Are Tulo, Cargo, and Helton ALL incapacitated at this time from taking the field? Couldn’t it make sense for Hammel to be in the rotation and Rogers to be in…limbo?

I don’t want to question the integrity of this team and its management, but they are leaving me little choice with what’s going on here. This is the second straight year we throw in the towel. A better draft spot in each round could be a bit too alluring a payoff for all this losing.

We aren’t losing on purpose, but just maybe someone is under orders to make it easier for us to lose? It sure has that appearance, even though it seems so implausible, even to me. Perhaps it’s the very implausibility that makes them think they can get away with it, I don’t know.

by GoRoxGo on Sep 18, 2011 10:56 PM MDT reply actions  

Yes they are actually (or close to it)

Helton has had back problems late in the season (again) and Tulowitzki has been having hip bursitis. Carlos re-injured his right wrist on the Sandoval triple last Thursday.

As for (most) everyone else I’m excited to see them, but they appear to be (mostly) vastly over-matched at this point. Both Hammel and Rogers have been terrible, Hammel has been good out of the bullpen lately though.

"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." ~Tallulah Bankhead
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~Greg, age 8
JFK

by jrockies on Sep 18, 2011 11:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hammel was also good in his one recent start...

and went right back to the bullpen in favor of Rogers. Tulo probably has felt the hip issue even when playing for something earlier. Helton and Cargo aren’t seriously disabled. Face it, there is no motivation to win right now, and a reward if we run up the losses. Holly is right too that you have no reason to play the best players even if they can play….unless they care about giving fans who still are paying major league ticket prices a product that doesn’t appear to be from Tulsa.

by GoRoxGo on Sep 18, 2011 11:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

No way.

No freaking way.

@CentralCaliRox

by CentralCaliRox on Sep 18, 2011 11:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

lol

…oh, you were serious?

the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox

be happy, because 2012 is coming.

by papality on Sep 19, 2011 5:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

this team is lame.

im ready to cut ties with anyone not named:

helton, tulo, cargo, iannetta, giambi, chacin, pomeranz.

i have 0 loyalty beyond this group, as i do not believe any one of them have earned it.

by roxintober on Sep 19, 2011 12:01 AM MDT reply actions  

More like

Mr. Platoon Player

Just an average guy with exceptional hair. Nothing more, nothing less.
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Sep 19, 2011 6:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

Tee-BOW

Wonder if Tebow can pitch? Can we at least try it?

by Patrick11 on Sep 19, 2011 10:03 AM MDT reply actions  

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