Monday Rockpile: The Rockies Of Tomorrow
by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2011 7:30 AM MDT
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If the above picture hasn't scarred your mind yet, there are several players in that picture who have a very good chance of shaping the way this franchise moves over the next 5 years. Take another look. Then look at this one. That's right, you enjoyed it.
There are 4 specific guys in that picture that meet the qualifications for franchise-shaping, and another 3 who are definitely MLB pieces we want to keep a close eye on.
The 4, if you haven't guessed already, are: Drew Pomeranz, Alex White, Rex Brothers, and Wilin Rosario. Amusing how they all are involved heavily with pitching, as well: Pomeranz and White should make up half of the top-4 in the Rockies rotation (I just realized that Jorge De La Rosa is going to have seniority in the 2012 Rockies rotation), Brothers as the Bullpen Anchor (Closer), and Rosario catching them all. That's a pretty key 4 rookies there.
The other 3 are Jordan Pacheco, Matt Reynolds, and Edgmer Escalona. Pacheco is likely going to play an infield utility role going forward, backing up 1B and 3B, and I guess 2B because apparently players aren't versatile unless they can play 1B/2B/3B. Never mind the fact that he can catch. I'm sincerely hoping they just keep him out of the outfield. Matt Reynolds will play an important bullpen piece as... well, as a lefty, but not as a closer. Escalona, while more of a low-leverage reliever, is still solid RHP depth. He may not be forecasted to fill as glamorous of a role as Brothers or Reynolds, but having those quality innings is invaluable down the stretch.
So 7 guys: 3 starters, 3 part-time players, and a closer. That's not a bad wave of rookies to have on hand going into the 2012 season.
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Millwood gives up three hits in seven innings in Rockies' win - The Denver Post
One of the interesting parts of Septembers is seeing the veterans who are fighting for a job next season. After 9 starts, 5 of which being quality starts, of generally quality baseball, Millwood has to be a factor in 2012. Late flashes of competence to a struggling organization can be awarded jobs to start the next season, or so it would seem.
Really, I feel like it's a question mark where Pomeranz and White are going to end up next season (that is, in AA, AAA, or MLB - I think they'll both be in the majors), but after Chacin and these two, there's kind of a gap in pitching depth. Jorge De La Rosa will fill one of those holes at some point in the season, and Jason Hammel might fill one immediately, but if there isn't a surefire rotation candidate, Millwood could very likely be that person. What happens when De La Rosa returns is anyone's guess, however.
Chacin's improvement key factor for Rockies' future - The Denver Post
There's no question that Jhoulys Chacin has monstrous stuff and a lot of potential. He just has to show it. During his first 14 starts, Chacin's BB/9 sat at a respectable 3.30; his next 16, it skyrocketed to about 4.98. His strikeout numbers crashed as well. A lot of people saw this year as being Chacin's potential Sophomore Slump, and it surely is. Renck tells us that Chacin's working on some very small tweaks, and the team is actually alright with his mechanics.
Rockies rip record 25 hits in 19-3 rout of Astros - The Denver Post
Kevin Millwood: Feared Slugger.
Seriously though, with that Millwood homer, he becomes the first Rockies pitcher since Mike Hampton to hit more than 1 home run in a season. Also, with those Kouzmanoff homers (well, actually, the one from earlier this past weekend, but stay with me), Ian Stewart is the only Rockies 3B who didn't hit a homer this season. Actually, out of players with at least as much playing time as he has, he's the ONLY one who hasn't hit a home run.
Last thought: Eric Young Jr is slowly impressing. He has a .341 OBP right now with 26 SB and still, no position.
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We already have quite a few DHs for an NL team
And an alarmingly high number of them can’t really hit.
by Northsider1964 on Sep 26, 2011 8:43 AM MDT up reply actions
I prefer DBs for designated batters
More accurate plus references volume of fan disgust. Plus, the law enforcement acronym is fitting b
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 26, 2011 8:48 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
DPAF
Designated plate appearance failure
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Sep 26, 2011 8:52 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
This is exactly correct
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2011 9:28 AM MDT up reply actions 4 recs
That's hilarious
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2011 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions
That's hilarious
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2011 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions
She sure “whiffed” on that one.
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This year sucks.
by prettyinpurple on Sep 26, 2011 12:47 PM MDT up reply actions
That's hilarious
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by Junction Rox on Sep 26, 2011 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions
Switch EY2 and K-Wood's rolls around.
EY2 would have to be a decent RHP starting pitcher, right????
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be happy, because 2012 is coming.
In all seriousness, I like him as a 5th OF/ late-game PR.
He has no position, which is just too bad. Not sure he breaks camp.
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by CentralCaliRox on Sep 26, 2011 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions
on the plus side, he’s vastly improved in the outfield this season.
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I think he stays if we try to get an OF who doesn't need a platoon partner,
and we trade Smith away.
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 26, 2011 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions
His .812 OPS in the month of Sept is sexy..
coupled with the .400 on base, he’s starting to show some value.
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???
Did you see the (non) play he made yesterday? Ball scooted right past him to the wall? He’s still not a good enough OF to play there in Major Leagues.
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Yeah, I definitely didn't say he was good
just “vastly improved,” which is a true statement
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This one can't happen
until we know that there will be something better coming after it. Just as Lucas added it once he knew he was getting a second movie.
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In my opinion, if he's able to pitch at the same level next year,
he should almost be guaranteed a spot in the rotation; his performance was one of the few bright spots this season.
Tough to say when (or if) he’ll be able to pitch at all next season, though. Hopefully he can pitch in winter ball and we’ll find out where he’s at relatively soon.
by Shoemaker on Sep 26, 2011 8:39 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Way too soon to tell
We still can’t assume he’s a baseball player anymore
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2011 9:29 AM MDT up reply actions
He's very emblematic of the entire 2012 Rockies team
An unknown.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 26, 2011 9:31 AM MDT up reply actions
wheew
I thought you originally meant that we can’t assume the 2012 Rockies are baseball players anymore. I thought it’s very early to make that claim, lets wait until at least January
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by El Paso Jeff on Sep 26, 2011 10:18 AM MDT up reply actions
Yesterday was such an amazing sports day on so many levels
1) The Rockies win 19-3 and several guys we may see in 2012 had huge days.
2) The Giants get swept. (That’s always fun.)
3) The Braves Wild Card lead gets cut to one game. (Now they play Philly, who may or may not care about that series while the Cards play the Astros.) This is getting good.
4A) Speaking of good, how about that 14 inning game between the Red Sox and Scranton last night?
4B) The Rays only being one game out of the Wild Card now
4C) The Angels all but mathematically eliminating themselves by blowing a 5-2, 9th inning lead against Oakland.
5) More than half of the NFL games being decided by three points or less
6A) The Patriots blew a 21-0 lead in Buffalo while the Vikings blew a 20-0 half time lead over Detroit and lost in overtime.
6B) Because of this, the Lions and Bills represent half of the undefeated teams left in the NFL. (Huh?)
7) Tony Stewart wins the second Chase race at New Hampshire and takes the points lead while several other key contendors run out of gas. Stewart has now won each of the first two Chase races after not winning a race all year. That championship battle is now going to be wild.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 26, 2011 8:40 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
(The Avalanche dominated their preseason game against Dallas)
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by Muzia on Sep 26, 2011 8:42 AM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
I can only pay attention to so many things at once
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 26, 2011 8:44 AM MDT up reply actions
nobody actually believes this
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 26, 2011 8:49 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions 9 recs
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by Muzia on Sep 26, 2011 8:54 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I gave you mine to use.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Sep 26, 2011 8:54 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
HAHA
No seriously. I was actually at the New Hampsire race yesterday meaning I had to watch the Rockies and Rays games on a phone while there and listen to the Red Sox/Yankee Game 1 on a noise canceling headphone radio I have all at the same time. There was so much action I didn’t know where to look/listen or whatever. It was pretty sweet though.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 26, 2011 9:05 AM MDT up reply actions
AND MY REC
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2011 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions
I would like to see the Buffalo Bills enjoy a good season
Before Toronto builds a gigantic new stadium and steals them away. I think that will happen near the end of this decade.
by Northsider1964 on Sep 26, 2011 8:46 AM MDT up reply actions
They already have the SkyDome or whatever the hell it's called now
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Sep 26, 2011 8:49 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
It's called the Rogers Centre now
And it works okay for the Jays, and one NFL game every now and then. But it would never be enough to land Toronto an NFL team. To get a team they will need to build a Jerry Jones-like palace, and I think they’ll do it. Nearly 9 million people in the Golden Horseshoe region now, a market the NFL would like to get its mitts on.
by Northsider1964 on Sep 26, 2011 8:55 AM MDT up reply actions
Golden Horseshoe?
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by BittenAnkles on Sep 26, 2011 9:03 AM MDT up reply actions
I think he means the All-You-Can-Eat buffet
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I love that place.
I lose all self control inside there.
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by Charlie77 on Sep 26, 2011 11:35 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
basically the greater Toronto area
and the Rogers Centre is terrible
2011 - not even light can escape
Sorry, it's the name for
the metropolitan area that curls around the west end of Lake Ontario, including Toronto, Hamilton and some big suburbs like Mississauga and Brampton. Nearly a third of the country’s population crammed into a pretty small metro area.
by Northsider1964 on Sep 26, 2011 9:29 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah
I’m not really sure how much I believe in them though. They seem to be doing this with smoke and mirrors. I don’t trust that defense (Then again, defense doesn’t really exist in the NFL anymore so maybe they will be fine).
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 26, 2011 9:12 AM MDT up reply actions
Oh I don't trust the Bills as far as I can throw them
I just think it’s fun when a downtrodden NFL picks up the pace and wins a few games. Also nice to see the Lions rising from the ruins Matt Millen left them in. Millen and Josh McDaniels should start a draft consulting service for NFL teams – it would be a nice quiet place to work, because the phones would never ring.
by Northsider1964 on Sep 26, 2011 9:32 AM MDT up reply actions
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFOOTBALL
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Sep 26, 2011 9:40 AM MDT up reply actions
Best Picture ever
can we get names by these action figures becuz that is too dam funny
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But the hair
is all wrong on “Slave Girls” Rex and Jordan. FAIL.
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Only you
would actually care about that russ.
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I want
authenticity, damn it!
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Not authentic.
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Closer to reality.
Wait, that’s that universe over there. —>
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What I really want to know is
Who’s that wearing the Giambi constume?
Fonz, is that you in there?
by Northsider1964 on Sep 26, 2011 9:44 AM MDT up reply actions
@TroyRenck
Troy Renck, Rockies
Players are L-R top row White, M Reynolds, Burgess, Miller, Brothers, Pomeranz, Giambi, bottom row: Field as Yoda, Escalona, Pacheco
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 26, 2011 9:45 AM MDT up reply actions
Since July 22nd
The Dodgers are 15 games over .500 (37-22) and have the third best record in the NL (4th best in all of baseball only behind Detroit, Arizona, and the Brewers). They deserve credit.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 26, 2011 9:43 AM MDT reply actions
They not only deserve credit
they need credit. Lots and lots of credit, at least until they get new owners…
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by Junction Rox on Sep 26, 2011 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions 5 recs
Amazing what happens when
you actually pay people.
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 26, 2011 9:55 AM MDT up reply actions
Has Pacheco generated any value?
Despite his pleasing performance over the last couple of months, he does seem a bit superfluous in the long run. It seems very likely we will have both Wigginton and Giambi back next year. I think we’re all hoping for a big move to get a 3B. I have to think that to start the year we will carry 12 pitchers. This leaves us with 13 position players looking soothing like this:
C: Ianetta/Rosario
1B: Helton/Giambi
2B: Ellis
SS: Tulowittski
3B: ?
CI: Wigginton
MI: ?
LF: Smith/Platoon (or FA)
CF: Fowler
RF: Gonzalez
(4th OF if no platoon)
Where does Pacheco fit into this? Do we carry 11 pitchers to give him a slot? Or could he actual get value in a trade if packaged with another player like Seth Smith?
get rid of wiggy
and pacheco has his slot
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Absolutely.
I just don’t see that happening.
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 26, 2011 10:39 AM MDT up reply actions
i dunno
hopefully this has some credibility behind it
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This is the actual article from Renck.
http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_18972428
This makes it seem like we’re willing to just dump him regardless of the cost. I’m all for this, but I’m not sure if this is really the truth.
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 26, 2011 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions
He may be able to fetch a respectable bullpen arm
…maybe. Which I’m all for since it makes trading away Street a bit easier on our end (though there’s still the whole ’there’s no good market for Street issue)….
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There's a great market for street,
if we eat money.
Unfortunately, I don’t think there’s much of a market for Wiggy, even if we eat money.
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 26, 2011 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions
I’d lean there’s a greater market to trade Wiggy than Street.
Cheaper, and “plays” at a more premium position.
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The bench is a premium position now? ;)
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 26, 2011 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions
With the disatrous decline of the third base position around the league, I wouldn't be shcoked if someone foolishly tried to make him a starter out of desperation.
That includes us if we keep him, by the way.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 26, 2011 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions
“plays” third base
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there shouldn't be
but Wiggy seems like the type of player GM’s can fall in love with – you know versatile (not really), and provides some pop… but yea, I can totally see him not getting anything.
It also may be better to hold on to Street and just wait for another team’s inevitable closer injury . Of course, holding onto Street means having to worry about the inevitable Street injury…
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You don't think we can trade all-star Ty Wigginton?
Atlanta Brave Dan Uggla would like a word…. ;=)
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by Junction Rox on Sep 26, 2011 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions
My prayers may have been answered!!!
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 26, 2011 11:14 AM MDT up reply actions
The only way this team survives with 11 pitchers
is if two or three of the Matts become anbidextrous over the winter.
by Northsider1964 on Sep 26, 2011 10:40 AM MDT up reply actions
I think Pacheco
is actually a sneaky good upgrade for the team. He makes our team significantly deeper since he can play any infield spot save SS, is a strong contact hitter, is really affordable, and since he can play C, he, Iannetta, and Rosario (minus whoever is actually catching of course) all remain available for pinch hit duties (since there’s no worry over your catcher getting injured and having no alternative since your backup was used in a ph situation).
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counterpoint: Jim Tracy
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I think every comment I make
is under the assumption that Jim Tracy won’t be around next year.
Two points regarding this assumption:
1. I actually anticipate Jim Tracy still managing this team.
2. I conveniently ignore point 1 since it seems to ruin any potential acquisition, stable playing time, player development, and contention dreams I may have.
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No doubt.
But I don’t know where he fits in the roster. He can’t be the only backup MI, and there’s a good chance we’ll have four CI.
This means, to keep him, we need to get rid of Wigginton or carry 11 pitchers. I can’t see us doing either one of those.
Unless Wigginton met with some unfortunate accident…
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 26, 2011 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions
Pacheco is currently an upgrade of Spilborghs as a RH option off the bench..
so I would say that adds value.
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But that spot is taken by either
a platoon partner for Seth or a 4th outfielder.
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 26, 2011 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions
Which is currently the role EY is playing..
And performing pretty well.
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by Charlie77 on Sep 26, 2011 11:10 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Right.
And I think he stays if we get rid of Seth. If not, he is replaced by Mr. Platoon. Either way, Pacheco really factor into that conversation.
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 26, 2011 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions
We’ll still need Nelson or Field on the roster in this situation as a backup MI
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Right.
That was accounted for above with the MI: ???.
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 26, 2011 11:14 AM MDT up reply actions
That is with Wigginton or Pacheco,
we still need a backup MI on the 25-mean roster.
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 26, 2011 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions
I can’t see us entering 2012 with Pacheco, EY2, and Field/Nelson all on the roster though. That’s a lot of non-impact youth.
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it might be worth it to enter the season with
Pacheco, EY2, Nelson, Field, and Herrera all on the roster and all competing for starting spots. This oversaturation of non-power, ‘grind-out-at-bats’ guys would make Tracy’s head explode. Then we can get a new manager!!!!!!
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I think EY is a long shot.
The odds are that we will find a platoon partner for Smith, and sink our money into pitching and any money we need to facilitate a 3B trade.
EY only factors in if we need to trade Smith to get a 3B. Then we have to go into FA to find an OF. EY comes in as a backup in that situation.
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 26, 2011 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions
Oy. EY2 as a backup OF.
Oy.
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Needs more Oy....
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by Junction Rox on Sep 26, 2011 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions
i dunno
ey certainly has the potential to make impact, and for all the jokes we make here, he really is fast as hell. he’s got OBP up to a decent level, .349, and he leads the team in steals with 26, even though he’s only played in 74 games.
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if his line since the start of August is a sign of real improvement
his .272/.385/.350 line would be great from a guy with his speed, especially if he play a slightly below average CF
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he's been brett gardner sans defense
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His speed alone means he ought to be capable of being an above
average corner OF
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he could just play 2b for us too
I like Ellis, but he’s nothing too special and EY posted some plus defensive numbers last season…
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as the team has suspect hitting
I really, really hope we don’t get rid of Smith (assuming there isn’t some bigger trade that occurs or whatever)
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Wigginton needs to get dealt
his contributions don’t offset his 4 mill salary. Otherwise, you’re right, there’s some real redundancies. Pacheco plus another IF who can play SS well (Herrera?)…
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(Field > Herrera, imo)
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Ah yea (and cheaper too, yes?)
I’ll cosign.
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Barely. $10,000 or so
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 26, 2011 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions
hmmm
not much, but almost, almoooost the cost of a humidor. Perfect!
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Yeah.
That backup MI spot is pretty wide open.
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 26, 2011 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions
Right now it is..
But there are several guys in the pipeline who are about to solidify it; Rutledge, Story, Herrera, Adames
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by Charlie77 on Sep 26, 2011 11:19 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
He's one of those guys who I like better in the game than on a stat sheet
Seems like he adds positives some way or another.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 26, 2011 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions
Blackmon is another player that i feel this way about.
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by Charlie77 on Sep 26, 2011 11:20 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Then I guess this bring up another questions:
Is Pacheco worth the money we might have to eat to get rid of Wigginton?
I’m going to say $2 million.
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 26, 2011 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions
Considering that
we may not have to eat money at all, and that I think adding Pacheco over Wigginton makes this team better regardless, I’d say yes. but hey, that’s just me….
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I think we at least eat $1 million.
Wigginton is guaranteed $4.5 million. Maybe I’m just undervaluing him.
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 26, 2011 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions
It will also depend on return.
A team may be willing to eat less/none of his salary if we agree to trade him away for basically nothing, just to get him off the team and not get a new card for the deck.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 26, 2011 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions
if Wiggy gets traded, it will be his 7th team in 11 seasons.
Mets, Pirates, Devil Rays, Astros, Orioles, Rockies.
That’s quite a collection.
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 26, 2011 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions
Loftonesque
is the preferred term for this phenomenon.
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True, but he's no Dennys Reyes.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 26, 2011 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions
Somw guy named Babe Ruth was another one who moved around alot..
Orioles, Braves, Red Sox, Yankees. Dude was a complete journeyman.
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by Charlie77 on Sep 26, 2011 11:24 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
To be fair,
the Orioles weren’t a Major League teams back then.
Of course, they aren’t really one now either.
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 26, 2011 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions
At least he played in two postseason series.
Our man Ty has yet to accomplish that feat.
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 26, 2011 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions
matt stairs
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 26, 2011 3:05 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Pacheco's contact skill screams yes
He’ll likely outproduce WIggy with RISP in the first month of the season. Off the bench.
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That hypothetical 2 million only comes as a problem if it somehow prevents us from adding another important piece to the team.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 26, 2011 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions
Probably not.
Because even if we do spend $2 million to get rid of him, he’s being replaced by Pacheco, who will make less than $2 million.
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 26, 2011 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions
Less than a quarter of it.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 26, 2011 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions
Thus, the conclusion we have drawn is
that Ty Wigginton MUST be traded immediately.
This is what I thought at the trade deadline too. That didn’t work out so well.
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 26, 2011 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions
You're assuming a rookie is ready to step in next year..
And perform at the same or similar level as he currently is performing at. That’s like thinking Pomz will take over the ace role next year when the Rockies need to bring in a veteran as insurance.
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by Charlie77 on Sep 26, 2011 11:13 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
As a backup/utility guy — the same proclaimed role as Wiggy?
I’m more than okay with it.
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Weren't you just defending Pacheco?
I’m confused.
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 26, 2011 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions
He's just trying to remain guarded.
It’s possible to take a middle of the road approach, you know. :p That’s where I stand regarding Pacheco myself.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 26, 2011 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions
Be careful standing in the middle of the road
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Sep 26, 2011 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions
There's a nice big median here.
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by Greg Stanwood on Sep 26, 2011 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm for having as many assets as we can afford..
Baseball is too much like roulette where you never know which player is going to get hot and which one will be injured.
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by Charlie77 on Sep 26, 2011 11:26 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
The Dan O'Dowd debate continued:
I wanted to address GRG’s comments from the past two days where he uses an arbitrary date of win totals and combines it with a statement that the Rockies have been disappointing in 3 of their past 4 years. Dan took over a team in 2000 that had no direction and no gems in the farm system. To judge any GM on the first few years of his term is to base your decision on the past GM’s decisions (it’s one of the reasons I have a problem with the Billy Beane hero-worship). Dan’s “mistakes” earlier in his term was to sign two high priced pitchers. At the time it was considered a win to bring any pitchers to the Rocky Mountains let alone the top two on the market.
The Rockies have one of the best records in the NL West since 2007, in that same time period they have had 10 players nominated for MVP, averaging 3 nominees a season every year except 2008 when Tulo was the lone vote-getter. In that same time frame the Rockies have become younger, only the dBacks have a younger team in the past two years than the Rockies.
Wins Since 2007
LAD 420
COL 409
SFG 407
AZ 400
FLA 393
SDP 386
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silly apologist,
you have to look at numbers that make O’Dowd look bad, not ones that don’t!
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My favorite thing O'Dowd has done is to stabilize the lineup..
I know that for the next few years Tulo and Cargo are going to be winning Silver Sluggers and Gold Gloves for the Rockies nearly every season. How many other clubs can say that? Also when we figure in his other contributions like the complex they’re putting together in the Dominican Republic and the new Salt River Fields Complex there’s a lot of good things going on for our team right now.
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humidor @ CO Springs
is something I’d add to the list.
Was he also responsible for the humidor at Coors? That may be the most beneficial move the club will ever experience…
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
The humidor was unique solution to the altitude issue..
Implemented by a ‘sage’ GM normalize the environment the team plays in. This type of innovation is being considered in Arizona and other places in baseball.
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by Charlie77 on Sep 26, 2011 4:52 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
If we are going to draw an arbitrary line for judging D'OD...
instead of looking at his entire career, why use 2007? I think it has to be at the installation of the humidor. That event changes the entire design of the team.
So my question is when did that happen, and what do those numbers look like?
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I am drawing the line at 9/24/11 at 4:26 AM and the other line at 9/26/11 at 2:58 AM
Dan O’Dowd has been incredible.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2011 12:12 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
SSS?
;-)
"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
OK, so I'm finally able to complete this thought.
The humidor was installed fir the 2002 season. In those 10 years, here are W/L records for the division…forgive the formatting.
#BeatLA 850 766 .526 4 playoff appearances
SFGiants 844 770 .523 3 playoff appearances, 1 title
AZDbacks 786 831 .486 2 playoff appearances
SDPadres 773 845 .478 2 playoff appearances
YourRox 769 849 .475 2 playoff appearances
In what way does Dan stand out in this crowd?
"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
Who are you asking?
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2011 7:52 PM MDT up reply actions
Nobody
Since this thread is now a ghosttown…but I couldn’t do this research earlier. I did mention it in the GT in case anyone is interested.
"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
It's a rhetorical question.
They teach you engineers about those at CSM!?!
;-)
"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
If you have to use a smaller sample size of seasons...
to justify the retention of Dan O’Dowd as our GM, I can only surmise you are his agent, or perhaps one of his relatives, because there is absolutely no reason to take smaller statistical samples when larger ones are available. Yes, it may be more appropriate to more heavily weight the recent seasonal results than to weigh each season equally, on the presumption that a GM can improve through practice. However, which seasons should be weighted more heavily?
I could make just as valid an argument that O’Dowd’s last four seasons, or his last two seasons are the most relevant and be double or triple-weighted. However, such weighting magnitudes and timing are fraught with subjective judgment, and so I solve this by just taking his entire 12 year career as GM and comparing his team’s cumulative record to the league. Yes, that method could unfairly hold back any credit for a possible improvement in GM’ing skills. OTOH, it could be obviated by the probability that he is no smarter than he was in 2000, just more experienced.
Experience in the case of a 12-year tenured GM could actually be a hinderance. It could mean ideas are growing stale. It could mean the GM is getting jaded or more set in his ways as to his belief system of what might work. In other words, all the time spent here could actually reduce DOD’s flexibility or creativity. A fresh newly-minted GM may bring new ideas, a fresh perspective, and more energy and passion to the job. The old GM could possibly be burned out compared to somebody young who is itching for the chance. Someone like a Thad Levine, who I"ve mentioned before. He could be our “Masai Ujiri” who did a great job in his return for the Nuggets last year. But there are many other candidates out there too.
I just think we know what we’ve got with O’Dowd. He is knowledgeable, experienced, and understands altitude ball. Keeping him is the “safe move”……but I’m hoping for a higher return/ higher risk move of replacing him with a new guy with new ideas and a fresh approach. It could help us in the drafts (one impact first round pick in 12 years sucks). It could help us in the trade and free agent markets, and it could help us clean house with the on-field coaching and management.
In short, we have nothing to lose becuse we don’t have that good an organziation as it stands now, from the MLB level on down. We have three clearly above average players on this team (Cargo, Tulo, Betancourt), several pretty good major leaguers (Helton, Smith, Fowler, Iannetta, Street, etc.), and lots of marginal players. That’s not a mix that is going to make us contenders going forward, and we have no top-shelf hitting prospects ready to help us now. On the pitching side, so much depends on the emergence of Pomeranz/White along with the health of Nicasio/JDLR. As it stands, our rotation has more holes than swiss cheese, and our offense is just about the worst the Rockies have ever had, including 1993, despite the 19 runs yesterday.
Lots and lots of stuff needs fixing. I just suggest this may be an apt time to start over with new thinking at the top. That’s all.
by GoRoxGo on Sep 26, 2011 3:19 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’ll reiterate my point from Saturday.
Abraham Lincoln had a rough first year as President, but he turned out okay.
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by Charlie77 on Sep 26, 2011 4:48 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
No..but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Im kidding. Slept in a recliner last night at work
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by Junction Rox on Sep 26, 2011 3:55 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm not old enough to say I knew Abraham Lincoln...
but I can say that Dan O’Dowd is no Abraham Lincoln!
(for those remembering the Dan Quayle comparison to JFK by Lloyd Benson).
O’Dowd inherited a barren farm system, a team with not very good players but expectations to win inside an environment that baseball has never seen before.
This isn’t your standard GM position and to use standard methods to rank him doesn’t quite work. He’s not the same GM he was pre-humidor, and he’s not the same GM he was in 2007.
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Whoa dude, so like, what you're totally saying is
that the Daniel O’Dowd who leaves the winter meetings, is like, a totally different man than the Daniel O’Dowd who entered the winter meetings.
Far out.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
So we shouldn't measure an "altitude-handicapped" GM's record....
on the basis of wins and losses, or number of division titles, or perecentage of seasons with playoff appearances. I ask you, on what basis CAN we fairly evaluate a GM’s body of work here?
BTW, I don’t buy into the excuse you use of altitude ball being a handicap in putting together a consistent winner. Is it a unique environment? Sure. Does it hurt our ability to win? Not at home normally (ignoring this year), but maybe on the road. Is it an extra challenge, or is it an extra OPPORTUNITY for a sage GM? Listening to you, I’d get the impression that O’Dowd runs a baseball club with one hand tied behind his back.
"I ask you, on what basis CAN we fairly evaluate a GM’s body of work here?"
you can’t, obviously, because you want to reach the conclusion that he’s a bad GM, and you’re going to argue with anything that presents a contrary opinion. acknowledge your own lack of fairness before accusing others of the same.
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It's a distinct challenge that other GMs don't have to face.
Our pitchers aren’t as good at home, and our hitters aren’t as good on the road.
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it just means there's a steeper learning curve
so a more sluggish start (relative to other GM’s) of his tenure in terms of W/L can be expected (and may impact potential new GM’s, making the idea of finding a new GM somewhat less appealing)…
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Are yoy trying to fire O'Dowd 2004 or DoD 2011?
When you were using his 2000-2011 as your Win/Loss measuring stick you were disregarding his later success by emphasizing his early failures. I’m judging his latest body of work and I’m impressed by it (WS in 07, playoff runs in 09, 10). That’s competitive baseball.
When you say there’s no hitters who can help us now, do you mean besides Pacheco and Arenado? There is a lot of hitting talent in the system (Wheeler, Matthes, Rutledge, Parker) and you’ll see an influx starting next season.
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by Charlie77 on Sep 26, 2011 4:28 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Didn't take him 12 years to turn it around...
"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
Jason Giambi
is the only player that needs no costume to resemble something out of a Sci-Fi movie.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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possible FA target:
joel pineiro?
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wouldn't be first on my list
but he’s a guy that can merit some consideration.
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yeah he's definitely seen some regression since his 5-win 2009
but regression works both ways, and he’s the kind of guy who benefits from a good pitching coach. not my favorite either, but also someone whom we’ve not really mentioned yet.
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Aaron Miles is first on my list..
But its in alphabetical order.
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by Charlie77 on Sep 26, 2011 4:54 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
That explains Yuniesky Betancourt's placement....
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by Junction Rox on Sep 26, 2011 5:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Aaron Harang tops my list
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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fernando abad
he’s my A choice
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If he can get
his GB% back to his 2009-10 levels, might be a good pick up. But, you know, everyone is going to pronounce his first name wrong.
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by Resolution on Sep 26, 2011 12:25 PM MDT up reply actions 3 recs
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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Sep 26, 2011 1:51 PM MDT up reply actions
can only rec so many times
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Peralta's having a nice run with the Rays
Too bad he couldn’t have done that here. Though if he had been better here, the Rockies might not have upgraded the bullpen as much as they did back in 2009. Probably worked out best for all parties.
by Northsider1964 on Sep 26, 2011 12:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Speaking of which
how about Frankie Mo getting the W with 2 innings of scoreless relief vs. the Yankees in the Sox big game?
But, it must be noted:
1. The Yanks big guns were mostly gone by the time Frankie Mo entered.
2. If Jared Saltalamacchia wasn’t 6-5 or whatever he his, Frankie Mo would’ve WP’d the winning run in from 3rd on a way-high fastball that Salty somehow stood up & speared with his arm extended.
2011 Rockies -- what the hell?
I thought the same thing
Saltalamaccia is only listed at 6’4" but he sure looks taller. The guy has a huge wingspan, which makes him a good candidate to be Franklin’s personal catcher. :)
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Not sure which is funnier...
The idea of Frankie getting a personal catcher or his need to be caught be someone with an extra-ordinary wing span.
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by BittenAnkles on Sep 26, 2011 3:46 PM MDT up reply actions
ATF tweeted about this
but it looks like Florida Miami may be putting Ricky Nolasco’s contract on the trading block.
He makes a solid offseason candidate
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Nolasco is, at least in my opinion, an enigma
It seems like he either goes 8 shutout innings with 12 Ks or fails to make it out of the 2nd
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sort of like DLR used to?
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He had absolutely owned the Rockies
Until the last time they faced him, when he was clobbered.
I thought Nolasco was worth a look last year, when the Marlins were looking for catcher. Was hoping the Rockies would exercise the option on Olivo and work some kind of deal with The Fish, but then they went with John Buck.
by Northsider1964 on Sep 26, 2011 1:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Speaking of Consistency
I ran the numbers on Consistency Factor (which is fancy speak for the StDev of a season’s worth of Game Scores), and here are the results of many interesting and/or relevant pitchers:
Name CONF
Wandy Rodriguez 15.28795849
Jhoulys Chacin 15.49104302
Edwin Jackson 15.59638778
Mark Buerhle 16.10886099
Jason Hammel 16.71326818
Ubaldo Jimenez 17.01782746
Carl Pavano 17.45212345
Kevin Millwood 17.45311179
Juan Nicasio 17.47195555
James Shields 21.1473088
Ricky Nolasco 21.39765988
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2011 2:05 PM MDT up reply actions
btw it was a random exploration, I just wanted to see how inconsistent Nolasco was relative to his peers.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2011 2:08 PM MDT up reply actions
Pitching at altitude is a bitch
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your arm blows up
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5 of our starters are on that list
Cook isn’t because he was consistently horrible, and DLR wasn’t because he got hurt early
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I don't know why I included Nicasio
But there weren’t a lot of Rockies pitchers with enough starts to really draw 2011 conclusions from.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2011 2:15 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't need to see that far after the decimal point :-)
Pretty interesting numbers though. Wouldn’t have guessed Shields and Nolasco were anywhere near that close. Is that career?
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
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I couldn't be bothered to take the extra 3 seconds to reduce it to 2 decimal places
YOU WILL ENJOY THE INSIGNIFICANT FIGURES
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2011 2:11 PM MDT up reply actions
well shields has several GS that are very, very high
i believe he might have the highest of the year, so his StDevs will be wider, right?
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That's true
All those complete games
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 26, 2011 2:14 PM MDT up reply actions
all this measures is consistency, not level of skill
A better evaluation would be something like consistency above a certain point. Shields HAS been inconsistent, but for the most part, it’s ranged “Really Really Good” to “Awesome” with a couple of “…. it happens to everyone” tossed in there.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2011 2:17 PM MDT up reply actions
like this hilariously bad start
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/OAK/OAK201107270.shtml
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do you have these numbers for the elite guys, like halladay, kershaw, lee, etc?
so we have some idea of how these compare
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I don't offhand, no
Can I tell you how to do it? I spent about as much time as I could running those pitchers.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2011 2:17 PM MDT up reply actions
lol no i have no idea
but i did just find this table which is a good companion and reference
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whoops, that's AL only, here's MLB as a whole
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/2011-starter-pitching.shtml#players_starter_pitching::21
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Yeah, that should be stacked right next to the CONF
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2011 2:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Can I tell you how to do it?
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2011 2:20 PM MDT up reply actions
probably the wrong man for the job
i’m no excel whiz.
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also reading is hard for me today
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it'll have to be later tonight then
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2011 2:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Its really really easy.
I only did the three you want, but all you do is =stdev.s(then highlight the column of your data)
Lee: 18.88
Halladay: 13.11
Kershaw: 15.78
Remember, too, everyone reading
that consistency factor IS NOT an indication of how good the pitcher is overall, just how consistent they are start to start
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2011 2:56 PM MDT up reply actions
now do Greg Maddux
for every season of his career.
Kthnxbye!!11
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by Junction Rox on Sep 26, 2011 5:07 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
If we think we can fix his hittability issues
otherwise, high hittability may be even worse in Coors than flyball tendencies…
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he doesn’t walk anyone, and doesn’t really give up HR.
His BABIP was a career high .331, and his second half splits overwhelm a pretty decent first half of the year. I think he makes for an excellent bounceback candidate. If not? Well, he’ll give ups 185 innings of #4 pitching.
(Gotta like his FIP, too)
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His FIP has always been awesome
but the lack of home runs is a new thing for him. There have always been concerns about him not pitching too well out of the stretch ( I think). I’ve always liked Nolasco. It’s possible the change of scenery/new pitching coach can really help him live up to his potential.
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He's done pretty well at Coors when given the ball
Though obviously that’s a lot different than making half your starts there. The downside I see with Nolasco is that he’s not a huge innings-eater. He has two 200-inning seasons out of six, and one other that was even close (185).
While pitching wins aren’t held in high esteem here, it is worth noting that Nolasco’s had five double-digit win seasons in those six years. Also worth noting: our “Franchise Leader in Wins” has done that twice in 10 seasons.
by Northsider1964 on Sep 26, 2011 1:22 PM MDT up reply actions
185+ innings in three of four years
The 2011 Rockies would absolutely kill for that.
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i would kill a certain 1B/3B/LF for that....
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i'm not saying no
and i’m not saying YES.
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but you'd keep him in RF
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2011 1:28 PM MDT up reply actions
the only place i would keep ty wigginton
is in that gulag from modern warfare 2 in siberia
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Depends on his elevation in RF.
If we are talking at Coors field, than some number of feet below the turf.
Get well soon Juan.
Oh absolutely, it's certainly not bad
It’s just a bit less than I would have expected, given the number of decisions Nolasco piles up year after year. No-decisions seem to be a rarity for this guy.
I am on board. I think Nolasco’s pitched his butt off for the Marlins and wouldn’t mind benefitting from the Marlins apparently souring on him.
by Northsider1964 on Sep 26, 2011 1:29 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, I don’t absolutely love Nolasco, but I can’t see us getting someone substantially better for the price.
I can see us spending this money on a much worse player (Willis) which scares me. Friedrich and we’ll take the contract. Done. Then sign Millwood to an incentive-laden deal. Done.
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That's pretty much where I am on Nolasco
I’m not going to race out and buy a ticket when he’s scheduled to start, but over the course of the season I think he brings a lot of value. He could be another Marquis for us, and I say that in a good way.
I don’t want Willis either – at least not as a pitcher. He is, however, a better hitter than about a half-dozen of our postion players.
by Northsider1964 on Sep 26, 2011 1:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Can he play 3B?
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by Junction Rox on Sep 26, 2011 1:41 PM MDT up reply actions
He's a lefty, unfortunately
No lefty’s played 3B since Mattingly did it for some really putrid Yankee teams.
by Northsider1964 on Sep 26, 2011 1:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Does Stewie field RH?
It’s been so long since I’ve seen him play.
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you can't really be a 3B if you don't
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I approve of this plan
I would be VERY interested in getting Nolasco, especially at the cost of CF and picking up his deal.
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by Junction Rox on Sep 26, 2011 1:40 PM MDT up reply actions
EY Jr.
He played CF yesterday, right?
Darn you Mr. and Mrs. Friedrich and your choice of a name starting with “C”…..
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by Junction Rox on Sep 26, 2011 1:44 PM MDT up reply actions
icwydt
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by Junction Rox on Sep 26, 2011 1:47 PM MDT up reply actions
I wish we could interest the Marlins in Street
Since their closer (whatever his name is) has been exiled. But Street’s contract would make this unlikely.
by Northsider1964 on Sep 26, 2011 1:49 PM MDT up reply actions
Maybe they already know
that his real name is El Paso Boulevard…
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by Junction Rox on Sep 26, 2011 1:54 PM MDT up reply actions
loria is rumored to be willing to take payroll to $100 mil
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likely not on a closer entering the last year of his contract though.
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Unless we can package him in a nice trade for us
we may just be better off keeping him for the draft picks…
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I'd say he's an innings eater
He got Fowler’d in that 185 inning season and spent 15 in AAA
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Okay, Wild Card predictions?
A.L.
Red Sox are one game up on the Rays
Schedules…..
- Red Sox go to Baltimore
- Rays host the Yankees
N.L.
Braves are one game up on the Cards
Schedules…..
- Braves host the Philies
- Cards go to Houston
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 26, 2011 1:41 PM MDT reply actions
I say both go to a play in game giving us an awesome double header on Thursday
Rays and Braves win.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 26, 2011 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions
That would be very cool
And while I hate the latest proposal for adding an extra Wild Card team in each league, wouldn’t this pretty much be exactly that – just one year early?
by Northsider1964 on Sep 26, 2011 1:52 PM MDT up reply actions
i really want the rays to make it
hopefully they’ve got enough left in the tank to beat S/WB
as for the NL, i’m pretty undecided, just enjoying the race
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Pitching matchups.....
Red Sox will go with Beckett and Bedard in the first two games and probably Lester on short rest in game three. The O’s will counter with Hunter tonight, probably Britton tomorrow and then who knows on Wednesday.
The Rays have their big three going with Sheilds, Hellickson, and Price while the Yankees send Noesi, Colon, and ? to the hill. If the Yankees only have half their lineups in the game (like last night), Tampa has a chance to sweep with these pitching matchups.
Either way it looks like the Red Sox will have to take at least two out of three this week to win the Wild Card outright on Wednesday.
I'm pretty disgusted right now!
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Sep 26, 2011 1:59 PM MDT up reply actions
Gah Imagine if Manny had been able to be clean and Manny for one more year
a .420 OBP would have looked good over 450 PA for the RAys this year
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Well, considering he pretty much F'd up their start to the season,
I don’t think the Rays care that much about what he might have done.
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 26, 2011 1:57 PM MDT up reply actions
lets sign him next year!
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Oh I know that but they did sign a guy with a .409 OBP
and a .396 wOBA considering how close they are now he probably would have given them the division
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i wonder if halladay will be able to get his career ERA under 3
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Sorry to break your platooning heart, Amart
but Johnny Gomes wants to stay in Washington.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2011 2:43 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
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That's just creepy
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
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It’s the same photo, but I swear it changes everytime I look at it.
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These three guys togther
Still have lousy range in left field.
Of course, Gomes isn’t exactly Cargo or Carl Crawford.
by Northsider1964 on Sep 26, 2011 2:58 PM MDT up reply actions
But he is an outfielder.
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2011 3:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Why on Earth do we want to acquire a RH-hitting outfielder?
We can use Melvin Mora/Jonny Herrera/Ty Wigginton in a pinch, and it’ll all be fine.
Or so I’ve heard, for the past few years running.
by Northsider1964 on Sep 26, 2011 3:09 PM MDT up reply actions
BECAUSE GOMES CAN ACTUAL-
OHHH sarcasm
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2011 3:14 PM MDT up reply actions
Carl Crawford
The accepted term is “Brett Gardner”
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TH-TH-TH-TH-TH-TH-THAT's A FASTBALL RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE!
No, Wiggy, it’s a slider… low and away. But thanks for stopping by with runners in scoring position.
by Northsider1964 on Sep 26, 2011 3:11 PM MDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hahaha
In my house, we called him Fry Pigginton.
This year sucks.
by prettyinpurple on Sep 26, 2011 3:22 PM MDT up reply actions
Runners in scoring position?
/That’s all folks
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Sep 26, 2011 3:58 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I can't wait to cheer for Wigginton next year.
Watch him be so clutch
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by CentralCaliRox on Sep 26, 2011 3:59 PM MDT up reply actions
for the record
I still don’t hate the guy, I just don’t want him anywhere near the OF
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by Andrew Martin on Sep 26, 2011 3:14 PM MDT up reply actions
Is this one of those magic eye things?
If I stare at it long enough will it turn into a OF?
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Points to Wigginton's batting avg with RISP
He is like 20 for 120 this year
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Sep 26, 2011 3:53 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
FYP
He is like 20 for 120 this year
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At least Orton can complete 40+% of his passes.
The real question here is: what if Wigginton grew a neckbeard?
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Setting the bar high there, aren't you?
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As opposed
to Kyle Orton being 0-for-Infinity?
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IIRC Orton's Red Zone efficiency is actually remarkably good, sooooo
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no, cat
he’s staring straight into your soul.
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No, the blinking stops it.
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no, cat.
no it doesn’t.
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No it's my blinking that stops it from staring into my soul
He’s still blinking. I just have to blink when he does. Otherwise I’m doomed.
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you're pretty much the worst person of all time
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Grant's series preview is really quite a good review of the Rockies season.
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2011/9/26/2450944/giants-rockies-series-preview
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Bonko and Floppo need more playing time.
Like WAYYYYYY more playing time.
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I reallllllyyyyy want to watch the ATL/PHI and STL/HOU games today.
As well as TB/NYY & BOS/BAL
But I have class :/ Should be a fun final 3 days! Go Rays and Cards.
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meh skip class
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I stopped years ago…
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I go to classes
that I’m not enrolled in.
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this is believable
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Renck is quite funny these days
This cab stops and goes unexpectedly for no reason. Runs stop signs. It’s like it’s a Rockie running the bases… couldn’t resist
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us
1. Eric Young (S) LF
2. Mark Ellis® 2B
3. Dexter Fowler (S) CF
4. Seth Smith (L) RF
5. Jordan Pacheco® 1B
6. Kevin Kouzmanoff® 3B
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isnt this the same lineup from yesterday except for Rosario for CDI?
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Well, it did ok yesterday...
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yea, I know. Im wanting to see if they can do it again
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that's how you know tracy's still managing:
can’t use the same lineup twice in a row.
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I was looking at the photo posted of the lineup
and it really hit home just how pathetic our current roster situation is (among position players—pitchers are actually in okay ship, in terms of being available). Helton, CarGo, Tulo, and Giambi are all still listed as bench bats. Yet only Tulo is actually available, and even then only in an emergency (though I’m not sure about Giambi). So we really only have two bench bats—Wigginton and CDI.
Expanded rosters? What expanded roster?
them
1. Andres Torres (S) CF
2. Mike Fontenot (L) 2B
3. Carlos Beltran (S) RF
4. Pablo Sandoval (S) 3B
5. Brett Pill® 1B
6. Brandon Belt (L) LF
7. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
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They've got the Pills above the Belt?
Interesting….
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by Junction Rox on Sep 26, 2011 4:55 PM MDT up reply actions
Seriously, let’s just trade for Brandon Belt
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so he can be another platoon?
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SSS
But his only good numbers are against LHP….
……which of course is exactly the opposite of his minor league numbers
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try the future of 1B
which is something we distinctly lack
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ozzie is hilarious
“[bleep] the years, i want more money”
why is this guy not managing our team?
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Ozzie, please come manage my team.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Sep 26, 2011 5:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, to me he's more of a personality that might amuse me from afar
but might grate if he was my team’s manager, unless he’s guaranteed to make a big impact in the win-loss record. Which I don’t think he is.
at least he's got a personality
unlike tracy, whose picture you see next to milquetoast in the dictionary
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Eh, I'm not really one to criticize personalities or call people milquetoast based on public persona.
I’ve had people tell me I was sullen when I wasn’t. I’m just more reserved around people I don’t know as well.
That and personality doesn’t win baseball games.
Who the hell would tell someone to their face that they're sullen?
Sheesh.
by DumbAndNerdy on Sep 26, 2011 6:00 PM MDT up reply actions
It wasn't to my face, and I actually solicited the feedback.
It was in a letter from a woman whose house I lived in for a month and who asked me to leave (which was fine—I wasn’t comfortable there either, and I always intended it to be temporary).
don't worry, i've got that covered for you :)
seriously though, i’m just tired of tracy, and pretty much anything looks good at this point.
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.
As a team this season the Twins are hitting .247/.306/.359. Nick Punto is a career .248/.324/.325 hitter.
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
/it is a new beginning, right?
by The Lodo Magic Man on Sep 26, 2011 5:44 PM MDT reply actions
Everyone should read KYF, if just for Fish's comment.
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