Tuesday Rockpile: Purple Has Gone Missing in Denver
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 10, 2012 8:29 AM MST
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PrintWe talk about windows frequently in sports: a throwing window, a contention window, a broken window from player's domestic dispute. One window in particular was of great interest to me in the last year, and that indow nearly slammed on my fingers.
Rewind to a year ago, when the pro sports scene in Denver was a mess. The Broncos had fired their coach and limped to the second worst record in the league, and the NFL was facing a lockout. The Nuggets were in the middle of a foul-tasting divorce from their only star of the last two decades, with little suggesting a fair trade would be struck. The NBA actually went into a lockout as well, losing almost two months of the season. The Avalanche fell apart in the season's second half and duplicated the Broncos' feat, finishing ahead of just one team in the league.
Oh, but Rockies country was healthy. Despite a disappointing finish to the 2010 season, there was plenty to be happy about. The club spent more money than any organization in the offseason, locking up Troy Tulowitzki and Carlos Gonzalez, also pulling a bit of a surprise in retaining Jorge de la Rosa. The color purple was descending on Denver. Joe DenverSportsFan was watching the Rockies in April closer than ever before.
Radio talk show hosts that usually filled their Rockies talk with bashing of the Monforts or calling for O'Dowd's head were suddenly proclaiming that the best run organization in town was on 20th and Blake. With three superstars in the fold and three floundering franchise citymates, the window for legitimacy in Denver would never be more wide open for the Rockies than in 2011.
It was scripted perfectly, so perfectly it should have made one gaze upward for an anvil to fall to break the good fortune. It did, and it is difficult to imagine a scenario where the window could have slammed more swiftly. Ubaldo Jimenez got traded, as the Rockies underwent arguably the most disappointing season in their 19-year history (1996, 2001 and 2008 have a claim) in falling to fourth place. While the Rockies were juggling away (insert more accurate, more cruel verb at your leisure) their best opportunity in the Denver limelight, the Broncos/Nuggets/Avalanche have all taken enormous steps forward, pushing the little brother Rockies back into the shadow once again.
We know of the Broncos' conquests, which is a top story nationally. Their "miraculous" run from 2nd worst record to one of the final 8 teams vying for a Super Bowl championship has some comparing it to Rocktober 2007. Incorrect comparisons, mind you, but they are there. Even a 6-10 season would likely have pushed out purple for orange and blue, but this season NFL has lit the city on fire.
Across I-25, The Nuggets pulled off a fantastic trade with the Knicks. Despite losing their last two games, they still own the best point differential in the Western Conference. Their new brand of team basketball is winning back long-lost fans, and hope is at levels unseen in years. Denver talk show host Sandy Clough has already moved on from Troy Tulowitzki and is now proclaiming the superstar of Denver sports for the next decade will be Ty Lawson. These windows are small, I tells ya.
Even the Avalanche are making some noise. One of the hottest teams in recent weeks, Colorado has won 8 of 10 to join the fight for a playoff spot as one of the youngest teams in the league.
The Rockies' contention window is still wide open, as long as Troy Tulowitzki and Carlos Gonzalez are alive and well, but the Rockies' window to paint Denver a little more purple is closed tight. It is a shame. There won't be an opportunity like 2011 for the franchise in quite possibly decades. It will be hard to beat two concurrent lockouts and three miserable teams.
If the Rockies are ever to gain serious traction in Denver, it just won't be in the limelight. They will have to shout louder than their brothers in town and win. Maybe even a World Series. That is certainly possible, as they have a good core of talent in place. Plus, they seem to perform better when no one is watching. Now that Joe DenverSportsFan is looking elsewhere, Rockies, go ahead and start winning again.
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BBWAA.com: Official site of the Baseball Writers' Assn. of America. Larry Walker fell just shy of 25% of the Hall of Fame vote (22.9%), which is significant in that he is shy of being one third of the way to HOF induction. That might not seem like an optimistic hike, but his increase from the 2011 voting and company around him in the voting put him on a course of having a realistic shot of reaching the Hall, if not completely likely. A campaign from a Rockies beat writer (rather than a non-vote) would surely help.
Rockies' Nicasio facing hitters, remains on track to compete in spring - The Denver Post It had been a month since we last heard news on Juan Nicasio. In unplanned harmony with his player review yesterday, we got further word. He is pitching to live batters behind an L-screen with no ill-effects and continues to be in play for an Opening Day rotation spot. His performance willing, I hope they slide him into the 4th slot in the rotation, which would allow him to pitch the home opener on April 9 against the Giants.
Contract details on Casey Blake, Aaron Cook | On the Rox — Colorado Rockies news — Denver Post Blake earns a non-guaranteed $2million contract with $1million in plate appearance based incentives. Clearly, the Rockies hope Blake will be their third baseman for as long as Nolan Arenado deems necessary.
Rockies Prime Time - KOA: As noted by RoarFrom112, AM 850 KOA in Denver will now have one hour Rockies-devoted show on Monday nights from 7-8pm. The scheduling is a bit ironic given the topic of this post, as it will push talk aside of the recent Broncos game for at least two weeks. Those missing the Rockies can hear Jack Corrigan and Jerry Schemmel talk Rockies, with Rockies PR man Jay Alves also in attendance. Last night brought interviews of Michael Cuddyer and Dan O'Dowd. For notes on these, follow the previous link.
Successfully Making the Switch from Starting Pitcher to Reliever with Rockies Prospect Keith Weiser | The Next Level Ballplayer A video interview with Andrew Martin's favorite player.
Ben Petrick Once Hid His Parkinson's, But The Truth Finally Set Him Free - ESPN If you haven't read Steve Wulf's feature on the Rockies' one-time catcher-of-the-future, read it now, or consult yesterday's copy of ESPN the Magazine. Also, know that Petrick has written a book about his struggles. You can read an excerpt from the book on his blog that he posted Sunday.
Second Base Rankings Review - Roto Hardball Because I want to depress you from every possible angle.
Baseball Prospectus | The Lineup Card: Switched at Birth: 14 Players Who Look Like Other People There is no mention of Troy Tulowitzki fighting cars with Megan Fox, but there are a few here that are definite matches. See Tim Lincecum.
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If the Rockies had made it to the World Series again,
the talk of 2011 would still have been Tebow and the Broncos. This is a Broncos town. It’s also a town with quite a few people who root for Tebow because of his religious affiliation. There was no way anything the Rockies did this year was going to overshadow these two factors.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 8:51 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
It's kind of a world where a lot of people will back Tebow not for his affiliation(most NFL players are)
rather because he has become a symbol for something bigger. At it’s core Denver will always be Broncos town, they were the first and best franchise this city had.
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I have been a long time Bronco fan, and I will continue to be so unless some owner comes and moves them.
However I have embraced the Rockies as an equal love. They are like Children to me. I love my 6 year old just as much as I love my 13 month old.
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I love Coors and think that it is an amazing place to watch a game
but 60-70K at old was an amazing place to watch baseball
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I'm not sure why we get so up in arms about it
Sure, the media loves the Broncos. But come on, it’s the media, who cares. But we get out fair share of the fans, have strong attendance every year, and are competitive.
That's the thing
As long as the Rockies are doing a decent job of filling Coors (which they’ve done a good job of ever since 07), I won’t worry. I had a pretty lengthy post somewhere in the past couple weeks (… RIRF?….) about how the Denver fan is loyal to the teams that win, and if all the teams are winning, all the teams are doing well.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 9:09 AM MST up reply actions
with the way the Broncos season unfolded, I agree
I’m certainly not suggesting the Rockies would be the number one team in town right now had they won the Series. But franchises build their wider fanbases little by little, and 2011 was a great chance to play catch up. Denver is a football town, yes, and it likely always will be. But Denver also loves its baseball, especially when it is good baseball. The Rockies aren’t old enough to be a threat to the Broncos, obviously, but eventually, they will be.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 10, 2012 9:00 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Right.
The only thing I disagree with here is that Denver is a Broncos town and not a football town.
The Football I.Q. of this town is pretty low, and other types of football that are not Bronco related are not very relevant.
I think the Rockies are definitely a solid #2 here, and will always be.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 9:13 AM MST up reply actions
agree with the first part
but I think saying the Rockies can never pass the Broncos or even catch them is shortsighted.
The rockies have done very well with a fanbase despite two huge factors working against them: franchise youth, and a typical losing team. One of those is guaranteed to change, and if the other does, what is to stop the Rockies from actually catching up? It may take another decade or two, but I can’t say they “never” could reach it. and again to clarify, this article isn’t saying that would have been accomplished in 2011 under any circumstances, rather that reaching that point involves several small steps, and 2011 represented the opportunity for the largest possible step.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 10, 2012 9:20 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
This was the 2nd time the Rockies missed a window of opportunity..
2008 was another year where they could have built on a World Series appearance and instead fell flat on their face. Subsequently the 2008 Broncos went on to miss the playoffs after losing their final 3 games. Subsequently Mike Shanahan was fired, Josh McDaniels cleaned house and ran the football franchise into the ground.
Even if the 2008 Rockies had been competitive and finished around .500 it would have catapulted them into a warm Denver embrace. Remember in 2008 the Dodgers won the division with only 84 wins.
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How do you know the football I.Q. of Denver is low?
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He's discussed football
With every resident in the area :-)
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 9:33 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Oh well then ..
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That's my impression.
Living here and talking with people.
Reading and listening to the traditional and nontraditional media.
There are certainly people who know their football here. Nevertheless, the general fan has less understanding of football here than in a place like Pittsburgh. It’s not an insult. It’s just the way it is.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 9:35 AM MST up reply actions
I guess it all depends
on what you consider football knowledge.
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It also doesn't mean that the fans aren't great,
nor that they don’t have as much passion as other fans.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 9:38 AM MST up reply actions
I would think that is pretty tough thing to argue
given the incredibly small sample of people in either city you have talked too.
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I've got no proof.
But I’ve lived in a few different places, and I’ve visited many, and this is my general impression of the area. Your mileage may vary.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 9:47 AM MST up reply actions
You need to see some of the comments
from Pittsburgh fans after the game Sunday. People who have never seen a football game would have a better idea of what happened…
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by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 9:39 AM MST up reply actions
Sure.
Just like there are people in Denver who know their football, there are people who root for the Steelers (who are not necessarily from Pittsburgh), who don’t know much about football.
This is more of a general look at the overall environment within a place. Football is really not that important here as compared to other places, and it shows in the general level of knowledge of the fans. It’s not bad, because Denver people are much more well-rounded than other places as well.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 9:43 AM MST up reply actions
And by football I mean football that is not Broncos-related. The Broncos are extremely important. Football is not. There is a big difference.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 9:45 AM MST up reply actions
Right.
Unlike other parts of the country, people just don’t pay as much attention to college, high school football here as they do the Broncos.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Jan 10, 2012 10:18 AM MST up reply actions
And this isn't bad.
I love the sports culture. How many cities have baseball, football, basketball, hockey, MLS, indoor and outdoor lacrosse, college football, and college basketball along with fanbases to support all of them? For our size, we’re a great all-around sports town, possibly the best.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 10:22 AM MST up reply actions
Since Rochester is the only other town with both MLL and NLL teams,
we are the only town with MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL, MLS, NLL and MLL teams. We also have a Rugby SuperLeague team. The only thing we don’t have is an indoor soccer league team, but there isn’t really a dominant indoor soccer league anymore.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 10:45 AM MST up reply actions
Darn I was going to say don't forget the lingerie football team
but it looks like the denver dream suspended operations last year
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by purplesocks on Jan 10, 2012 10:48 AM MST up reply actions
that's probably got more to do with all college football here being turrrible
with the exception of USAFA
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Well,
Presently. I can still remember a time when my parents told me about a time when the Buffs were good.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 12:42 PM MST up reply actions
they one a national title when I was just a wee one.
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I was literally one.
My family had just moved here and my dad’s company at the time had season tickets… he said it was a very exciting time.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 12:45 PM MST up reply actions
Back when you could throw marshmallows?
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 1:02 PM MST up reply actions
Marshmellow wars were outlawed my sophmore year
So much fun
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I went to school at the wrong time – all we got was Dan Hawkins. poo.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 1:17 PM MST up reply actions
You got Dan Hawkins’ poo? That is bad.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 1:18 PM MST up reply actions
Not as bad as Dan Hawkins himself....
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by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 1:18 PM MST up reply actions
i was definitely there for
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My senior year.
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by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 1:25 PM MST up reply actions
Impossible. That NEVER happened...
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by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 1:25 PM MST up reply actions
That was awesome.
I went to MSU for my Bachelors, and I was at CU working on my Masters then. I never went to a single football game at CU though.
They were pretty good up until the time I started going to CU in 2003
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by purplesocks on Jan 10, 2012 12:48 PM MST up reply actions
I remember when the CU Buffs played baseball
/calls for nurse to help him hit “POST”
by Northsider1964 on Jan 10, 2012 12:51 PM MST up reply actions
I've actually talked with Mike Bohn
And he said with the change into the PAC-12 they’ll have the additional budget to add one men’s and one women’s varsity sport. I told him “baseball baseball baseball please!”
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 12:52 PM MST up reply actions
Having sat at my fair share of Metro State baseball games....
I’m not sure it’s a great fit (weather-wise), but I’d like to see the flagship university back in the baseball business.
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Right now they're getting ready to add a women's sport
and it’s rumored to be lacrosse.
Not sure what the next men’s sport would be, but lax is probably not a bad guess there either. Baseball/softball would take a big investment in facilities. Swimming/diving would make sense for the Pac-12, but since the students voted to make the new rec center pool a water park type lazy river thing instead of a regulation lap pool, the facilities cost is probably an issue there too…
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by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 1:11 PM MST up reply actions
It's a shame UNC has a team
with no real conference to play in, and CU is in a great baseball conference but has no team. I would love to see the Buffs add baseball but I have a hard time seeing it happen in this decade.
by Northsider1964 on Jan 10, 2012 12:58 PM MST up reply actions
take a gander at Mile High Report
if you need any confirmation of that fact. Staggering.
Football's bigger than baseball
almost everywhere (St. Louis excepted). Couple that with the disappointing season, Tebow-mania, and the fact that most members of the organization aren’t the most charismatic of characters, and it’s kind of a perfect storm. With more success on the field, they’ll get more attention than the Nugs or Avs, but they’re pretty unlikely to ever truly compete with the Broncos.
new york, philly, la....
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Cincinnati?
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is it?
i know the bengals aren’t much, and the reds have a extremely illustrious tradition, but i don’t really know how the fanbase views them
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Cincy is definitely a baseball town. Always has been.
Opening Day is almost a holiday there, or at least it used to be before MLB allowed other teams to have the first game of the season.
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by Paleface Destro on Jan 10, 2012 10:08 PM MST up reply actions
well then
themoreyouknow.jpg
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Marrying a Cincy girl FTW
…and now I want Skyline Chili
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by Paleface Destro on Jan 10, 2012 10:21 PM MST up reply actions
wait...
Rox the Casbah is Rox Girl?
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No RoxtheCasbah is Russ
Russ is Rox Girl
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by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 10:44 PM MST up reply actions
I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.
…and by “a little”, I mean “copiously”
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by Paleface Destro on Jan 10, 2012 10:45 PM MST up reply actions
good thing you stopped to type
before you cleaned yourself up. or even found a trashcan…
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There was one nearby.
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by Paleface Destro on Jan 10, 2012 10:49 PM MST up reply actions
Nope...
Not unless RtC has been hiding a love of opera for the last 13 years and still lives in Ohio.
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by Paleface Destro on Jan 10, 2012 10:44 PM MST up reply actions
so it's possible...
just not probable…
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Pretty much, yep
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by Paleface Destro on Jan 10, 2012 10:46 PM MST up reply actions
If RtC still lived in Ohio
I think you’d probably have a smaller family…
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by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 10:52 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah
Either that or I’d be super-platinum on Delta.
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by Paleface Destro on Jan 10, 2012 10:54 PM MST up reply actions
I think I read
somewhere the Reds always open at home
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Hmm...you could be right.
I’d have to ask my better half about that one.
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by Paleface Destro on Jan 10, 2012 10:40 PM MST up reply actions
Not sure if it's still true
but I think it used to be tradition that the Reds always hosted the first NL opener every year…
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by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 10:42 PM MST up reply actions
an*
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I can't fathom a situation where a sport fan
Will not watch a summer sport because the winter sport team he supports did better than expected.
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by biondino on Jan 10, 2012 9:00 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
The NFL is no longer just a winter sport.
The draft, minicamps, rookie camp….it covers the entire calendar.
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this is also true
just wait until draft talk whitewashes spring training news
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 10, 2012 9:05 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Plus, the NBA and NHL finals aren't over until mid-June
Even if you leave out stuff that casual fans might not pay attention to (minicamps, training camp, hall of fame game, pre-season), that still cuts down baseball’s time to shine to two months: mid-June to mid-August.
I’m not sure what the start of college football season is like out there, but it’s rabid enough to knock a non-contending team off the front page in most places. Multiply it times ten for areas with NFL allegiance.
Yeah
but mid June to mid August, they are the only games in the country. I don’t think any of the other sports have a time frame all to themselves.
Which is sort of mystifying that they can't knock off the beginning of FA in NHL and NBA
and the NFL camps.
With 81 home games, baseball may also suffer from the “I’ll go tomorrow” problem from single game purchasers and casual fans.
This is actually part of what has killed football for me.
I know my football very well. I played and coached it. I just can’t stand all of the talking about it. So much of the talk is irrelevant and incorrect.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 9:15 AM MST up reply actions
This is why I can easily turn off the Football talk until Preseason.
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I think I have paid as much attention to the Rockies offseason
As I have the Broncos season this year.
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There's way more talk about football than actual football played.
I find that really annoying too.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
it happens, I assure you
there are those that just want to watch well played sports. if their number one team does that, they are fulfilled, and their desire to watch less loved sports is lessened. I’ve heard it and lived it myself.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 10, 2012 9:04 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
you can make an argument
that the Rockies get more support (certainly from fans) than their performance warrants, especially compared to a lot of other major league cities (Atlanta, etc.). That’s probably what fuels a lot of fan frustration.
Denver is a pretty good sports town.
And it’s a great place to be outside to watch a game. Atlanta is neither a good sports town nor a great place to sit outside in late July.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 9:17 AM MST up reply actions
That may be a big reason why we continue to draw crowds
Coors is a very cool place for a family to spend an evening out of the house, and it’s cheap.
My wife is not a sports fan.
She admitted that she had a lot of fun at the Rockies game we went to last summer.
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We're also a pretty compact metro area.
A lot of people live within a 30 minute drive to Coors. Atlanta is a bit more spread out. I don’t want to seem like I’m knocking Atlanta.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 9:22 AM MST up reply actions
But they've got good BBQ.
It depends on where in Atlanta.
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as a native of the Memphis area
I have to say our BBQ is better! That’s about the only positive . . .
mmmm...Memphis BBQ...
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I can't dispute that.
This is still my favorite BBQ place of all the places I have ever gone:
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haven't been there - will have to hit it this summer
when I go visit the folks.
nope - just made a bad assumption!
about an hour north of Memphis.
The guy that runs that place is originally from Memphis
The people that run it have won 32 Grand BBQ championships for their stuff. My favorite BBQ by far.
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Denver Metro is pretty spread out though by Square mile per capita
it has to rival Phoenix, I think the highway system is pretty damn good
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Agreed
Take a look at the 1998 season. The Broncos are coming off their first Super Bowl win, on their way to their second while fielding multiple future hall of famers and a whole bunch of fan favorites. The Avs were a couple of years removed from a Stanley Cup title and were perennial contenders, while also stacked with hall of famers.
Meanwhile the Rockies had a 77-85 record. Their average attendance that year – 46,823. At this point, Denver was still excited about having an actual MLB team with a fancy new stadium. Obviously, that excitement cannot be recreated. Also, I realize this is just one year, and a lot has changed with how we watch sports, the economy, etc, but still, I believe that if the Rockies win, they will still sell tickets, regardless of the other teams.
(FYI, the Nuggets won 11 games in the 97-98 season, so… but 2 elite teams and 1 historically awful team isn’t too bad)
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 10, 2012 10:07 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
By the way
assuming O’dowd isn’t just creating some mis-direction, we are setting up to have a reduced opening day payroll for the 2nd year in a row. Not that they have been big cuts, but it’s still a bit disconcerning, and this one hurts more as our highest payed player can’t be counted on for a single inning this season.
If they buy him out, your first statement is technically right.
I wonder what the possibility is for that. Signed under different circumstances, but it’s a more expensive option than the one the Cards exercised for Wainwright post-TJ.
Not to be nit picky
but Cot’s says half a million more for Cuddyer.
Though I suppose if you included a buyout for DLR, he’ll make $11M this year.
Their
googlesheets thing they have linked on the Rockies page for contracts. It has DLR at 10.5 for some stupid reason, and still has Iannetta on there. Last year it was missing a whole year for a player.
It looks like they spread out the signing bonus over the first two years.
If you count that, plus the buyout, he’s the highest paid player on the team this year.
This was quite an exercise in contract nuances.
Anyway, back to my original point
It seems like payroll is going down again, with 15% of that expected to spend a signification portion of the season on the DL.
This was brought up last night.
I’m not really concerned as long as they bank that money to sign Arenado, Pomeranz, et al. There isn’t any reason to spend more money this offseason. Why spend it?
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 9:28 AM MST up reply actions
Exactly
I’d rather save now while we have this crazy young influx of players, and lock them up Tampa Bay style while CarGo and Tulo are in their most expensive years – the more we save now, the more we’ll have to pay players when the O’s are costing us about $40 bajillion a year.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 9:30 AM MST up reply actions
That should read
“lock up the good ones Tampa Bay style”
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 9:30 AM MST up reply actions
yeah, no wade davis contracts plz
arenado: it's Rockie for future
This is also the last year of being able to sign IFA
for whatever you want I wouldn’t mind us dropping 10 mill in that direction
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Part of that is because the Rockies have a lot of value invested in their youth..
so it saves money in the short-term, which can become expensive later. Pomeranz, White, Nicasio, Chacin are going to be very expensive in a few years. You can add Dex to that list too if he continues his progression. So I guess it depends on how you perceive team value, is it in total payroll dollars; then we’re less valuable. If you like to invest in futures, then we have a lot of value on this team.
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Because it’s likely that the pendulum of Denver sports is swinging further away from the Rockies than it will at any point in the next several years. The Broncos are a very medicore team (and that’s generous statement) that’s found a winning lottery ticket in their gutter multiple times in the same year. When you get outclassed by the tune of 81 points in a 16 game regular season and end up in the divsional round of the playoffs, it’s probably a safe bet that your fan base is going to be very disappointed with the folllowing season’s results unless they are expecting anything less than a gigantic step backwards. Even if the team improves, it will likely see major regression as its luck runs out. They will lose to the Patriots this Saturday night (and oh will it be ugly), and the Broncos, at least for a couple of seasons, will fall back to being defined by disappointment.
At the same time, the Rockies will take a major step forward in 2012 by doing nothing as their luck could not have been worse in 2011. According to 3rd order winning percentage (which is a much better indicator of where the Rockies truly stand in comparison with their divisional peers than the actually 2011 final standings), they were only 4.9 games back of the best team in this divsion. They have a much better shot at this than anyone is giving them credit for.
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If you’re into sellling high and buying low, it would be wise to sell the Broncos and buy the Rockies right now. But if you think it’s good business to hold onto a stock that’s likely to take a tumble soon, then by all means, continue to sing the praises of the orange and blue team. This will be an interesting test of Denver’s sports IQ.
by RoxRule on Jan 10, 2012 9:35 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
this is generally how I see it too
but then again, everything I thought on the subject on the macroscale in the last year has been wrong.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 10, 2012 9:41 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Funny thing about luck
is that it doesn’t have to change. Just because you won the lottery today doesn’t mean you can’t win tomorrow. And just because your house got hit by a meteorite doesn’t mean you next house won’t.
I work with a guy who's been hit by lightning twice.
We keep our distance at outdoor bbq’s.
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by DAWNMARIE01 on Jan 10, 2012 10:19 AM MST up reply actions
It's ok, I carry a 1-iron
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by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 10:46 AM MST up reply actions
If there is a lesson from the Denver sports scene in 2011
It’s that things can change quickly. Only this time it probably won’t be all bad for the baseball team. It could be, but it would be foolish to expect it.
This week is the nadir for the Colorado Rockies in the Denver sports world. Book it!!!
You're right
They will lose to the Patriots this Saturday night (and oh will it be ugly)
Everyone was saying this last week about the Broncos and the Steelers – I was saying this before we played the Jets. The reality is:
A) We beat ourselves more than the Patriots beat us 3 weeks ago – I don’t expect us to win, by any means but I expect a good game on Saturday. And heck, it seems every time I don’t expect us to win, we somehow pull it out.
B) I wouldn’t put anything past the Broncos this year. I know saying something along the lines of “when you believe you can win, anything is possible” is super hokey, but seriously, look back at the season the Broncos have had. Everything has fallen their way, and when that happens, teams tend to perform (ex. 2007 Rockies).
C) The Broncos have a stellar, young defense, and the youngest O-line in the league. They’ve led the league in rushing yards (this could be because we run it about 4-5,000 times a game). Tim Tebow is, if nothing else, a great leader and a talented athlete, and he will be going through a full NFL offseason (which he has never done).
I agree that they’ve seen more than the lion’s share of luck this season, but I think there’s a solid foundation here that could become a perennial contender with the addition of a few offensive pieces. They’re certainly not the Packers, but I think you’re selling the Broncos short.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 9:45 AM MST up reply actions
Also, how about that sport called baseball, right?
/braces self for scolding from RMN
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 9:48 AM MST up reply actions
The Broncos are also playing the worst defense in the NFL.
If they can score 29 points against the best defense, then it makes you wonder how they can do against a team Josh McDaniels is coaching.
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I think
If they can limit their mistakes (something they failed at miserably in the last game against the Pats – the Broncos handed them scores through penalties, turnovers, etc.), it’ll be a very fun game to watch. Plus there’s that whole thing with the Broncos doing better on the road that at home.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 10:29 AM MST up reply actions
When I think of Patriots-Broncos Playoff game it reminds me..
of Champ Bailey’s goal-line interception of Tom Brady and 99 yard return.
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by Charlie77 on Jan 10, 2012 10:40 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Ahhhh I would love
a repeat of that.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 10:40 AM MST up reply actions
Champ is so amazing..
I hope they get a Super Bowl just for him.
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by Charlie77 on Jan 10, 2012 10:41 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
The Broncofather???
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Have you seen his beard lately?
/still dislikes the Broncos
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did you see how emotional champ was after the game?
i was so happy for him. i think he felt terrible about that dropped interception. i would love to see him get a ring
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by purplesocks on Jan 10, 2012 12:43 PM MST up reply actions
I thought this was a knitting blog??
/hard to navigate
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Jan 10, 2012 10:16 AM MST up reply actions
Good thing that I won't suffer financially by holding onto the stock that I've heald onto since I was 9 while continuing to hold on to Rockies stock.
You sound really bitter about the Broncos success like if the Broncos are successful the Rockies can’t. Really, it sounds like your Sports IQ is tainted with hubris and vitriol. You should get it washed off.
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Not about the Broncos "success"
But yes about the NFL’s system. I don’t like it when .500 teams, particularly .500 who were fortunate to even be .500, make the postseason. It really cheapens the regular season in my mind. Especially when there were six teams in the conference that were above .500. (I was not thrilled with 7-9 Seattle at this time a year ago either for what it’s worth.)
I will confess though that I am a Patriot fan who is still bitter about going 11-5 in 2008 and not making it into the postseason when the 8-8 Chargers did.
You must not care about hockey or the NBA at all, then. Over half the teams make the postseason in those leagues
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Their Pythagorean W/L was 74-85.
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Wasn't thrilled but this will happen from time to time if you have any sort of divsion breakdown
Some times a bunch of bad teams are just all in the same spot. In the NFL, it happens about once every other year on average which is far too much for my liking.
or the 2006 St Louis Cardinals
pretty close to .500
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by purplesocks on Jan 10, 2012 10:27 AM MST up reply actions
Well
They were five games over .500 and the only NL team to not make the playoffs had just two more wins than they did so it really wasn’t too bad. The problem that year was that the NL as a whole was disgrace. How many times do you see only three teams crack 86 wins?
You're going to see this happen more with expanded baseball playoffs.
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I know I'm in the minority
But I LOVE the idea of the one-game play-in. It probably goes back to me being a proponent of chaos… the wilder the ride, the more teams you have involved, the more people will pay attention. I think it does a great job of keeping baseball “relevant” in today’s world of sports madness while making sure the MLB playoffs is still a very selective tournament.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 10:45 AM MST up reply actions
I like it,
because it restores importance to winning the division.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 10:47 AM MST up reply actions
That too
It also adds to the excitement of the end of the season in both leagues. There’s usually a race that comes down to the last couple days in at least one division, but this guarantees a lot more scrambling instead of a coast into game 162 with most teams locked in.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 10:49 AM MST up reply actions
Not true
All of these examples we’ve listed here about very mediocre teams making the playoffs in both the NFL and MLB (2011 Broncos, 2010 Seahawks, 2005 Padres, 2006 Cardinals, 2008 Charges, 1985 Browns) have something in common. They all won a divsion that was lousy.
The second Wild Card is going to take the team with the next best record that didn’t win their divsion so they will almost always be at 86 wins or higher. The big difference is that the Wild Card is picking from a pool of 14/16 teams while the divsions are picking from a pool of 4/5 teams.
This is part of what makes the NFL successful.
Unless your team is completely inept, you will make the playoffs at least once every four or five years.
I’m not a fan of it, but it makes a lot of people a lot of money.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 10:25 AM MST up reply actions
I think the NFL's system annoys a lot of fans
Of teams in good divisions where the top 2-3 teams are better than most division leaders. But just like any divisional system, it allows the whole country to get into the game – I LOVED that Seattle got in to the playoffs and BEAT the Saints, especially after the way sports have gone in the state of Washington in general, the fans deserved it. But I tend to be a proponent of chaos and madness when it comes to sports/playoff qualifications.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 10:34 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
It is what it is.
I’m not a fan of the BCS system where the National Champion is essentially decided the same way as MLB HOF inductees.
Your scenario about the Patriots not making the playoffs at 11-5 has happened to the Broncos. In 1985, the Patriots, Jets, and Broncos were all 11-5, yet the Broncos didn’t make the playoffs because of tiebreakers. However the 8-8 Cleveland Browns were in.
The great thing about sports is the hope and camaraderie (now matter how artificial it is) that is created. I know tons of Raiders fans that are jaded right now that their season is over, but the great thing is that they get a chance next year.
Honestly, the only thing I don’t like about the MLB is that your team can be out of contention so early in the season. But I’m getting used to it and can still enjoy the process. I know I won’t change your opinion of it. but that is just how it plays out on occasion.
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That's the thing
I think the NFL has the best balance as a league in general, but they have the most balanced playoffs when it comes to enough teams making it in – it really keeps the fans everywhere involved when you can make an appearance every few years. In baseball, the playoffs are the best of the best, which has its merits, but it means that places like Pittsburgh, Seattle, Houston, etc. rarely get to see their team make it by merit of the system, whereas in football that mediocre team makes it every once in a while, meaning a town is never that far from having their team make a playoff run.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 10:40 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
NFL's revinue sharing helps balance everything as well.
You don’t have the disparity of the Yankees vs the Royals every year either.
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That too
Yet somehow we still always have the Browns… :-)
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 10:41 AM MST up reply actions
god the BCS is worthless
as long as Boise State continues to be ignored, i don’t see how anyone can take it seriously. well, SEC fans i guess, but that’s just because they have a contract with ESPN. most overrated teams in the country year-in and year-out
arenado: it's Rockie for future
???
Thanks for proving my point from above. ;)
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 12:45 PM MST up reply actions
Meh
Boise State needs to recruit a competent field goal kicker before I’ll consider them :-)
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 12:46 PM MST up reply actions
It happened to the Broncos
in 1985. They went 11-5 and an 8-8 Cleveland team won their division and made the playoffs while the Broncos didn’t.
You get over it eventually…
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by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 10:49 AM MST up reply actions
Not in Boston :-)
They’re like the elephants of the being-wronged-in-sports world.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 10:49 AM MST up reply actions
For real.
The Bruins, Patriots, Celtics, and Red Sox could all win their respective championships in the same year, and those fans still wouldn’t be happy.
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by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 10:59 AM MST up reply actions
You mean the year the 11-5 Patriots used tie breakers to deny the Broncos the playoffs
then went to their first ever Superbowl?
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 11:07 AM MST up reply actions
I still maintain that if the Broncos had made the 85 superbowl
it would have been way different than the 86, 87 and 89 superbowls…. I hate Reeves drafting to this day.
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Possibly.
They were somewhat better setup against the 46, but the 46 and that talent was going to beat just about anybody that year.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 12:00 PM MST up reply actions
Same thing happened to the Broncos in 1985
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I'm starting to think maybe we haven't gotten over it yet....
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by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 10:54 AM MST up reply actions
more upset about the 13-3 84 team or the 96 team
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there are browns fans?
are they still a team?
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The off-season sucks.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 1:07 PM MST up reply actions
I hear in 1985 the same thing happened to the Broncos
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by purplesocks on Jan 10, 2012 10:55 AM MST up reply actions
Pshaw!
What was he supposed to do when his hands were tied by the Cheapfarts?!
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 11:00 AM MST up reply actions
Wait?!
In 1985 did the Broncos go 11-5 and miss the playoffs? I’ve never read that!
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 10:58 AM MST up reply actions
Get this:
The 1985 Rockies didn’t even make the wild card, despite having zero losses on the year!
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 10, 2012 11:00 AM MST up reply actions
East coast bias!!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 11:02 AM MST up reply actions
Its more enfuriating that it didn't happen just once.
But also to the 1986-1992 Rockies.
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 11, 2012 6:43 AM MST up reply actions
I just want to defend MHR.
There are some people there who know their football. Obviously, not everyone, but it isn’t some kind of vast wasteland. I just don’t go there too often because I don’t have a lot of interest in the Broncos.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 11, 2012 6:51 AM MST up reply actions
I'll just use this as an example of MHR
Comment made yesterday in referral to Brandon Marshall
If he had DT’s personality, he would be competing with Jerry Rice for best WR ever right now
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 12, 2012 7:56 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
OT: I married a keeper
On the phone with my wife just now and she says to me:
“It was really nice cuddling with you on the couch yesterday and watching Sportscenter.”
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if you’re on Twitter, follow the new @GJRockies
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 10, 2012 10:46 AM MST via Android app reply actions
Junction Rox got a twitter account?
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 10:49 AM MST up reply actions
Well yes, actually
and I’m following the Grand Junction Rockies (among others….)
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by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 10:50 AM MST up reply actions
We should get a Purple Row sponsorship?
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Would it include a couple season tickets?
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by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 10:55 AM MST up reply actions
so long as we can sit whereever we want
press box is all quiet and depressing
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This is my debate on season tickets
the ones on sale right now are slightly more expensive than single game tickets for every game, but they give you the right to reserve your seats now on the 1B line. Single game tickets (and maybe some future season ticket package, I’m guessing) would be general admission in the rest of the stadium, which is how all other games are done there.
I’m not sure it’s worth a premium to be locked into one spot all season. I kind of like moving around a bit, plus what if I get stuck next to some total jerks?
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by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 1:14 PM MST up reply actions
I get the hint. No GJ Rockies games for me this year :-/
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No need for that...
I’m leaving myself the option to be mobile. You and A-Mart can still come – it’s a reasonably big ballpark… :=)
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by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 1:17 PM MST up reply actions
What about the rest of us?
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 1:18 PM MST up reply actions
You'll just have to let me know where you're sitting...
If you all stay in one spot, I’ll be ok…
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by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 1:19 PM MST up reply actions
We should plan a trip out there then
I know the idea of going to Casper came up last year but I don’t know if it actually happened
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That would be cool
watching a game with this group would be a lot of fun. And I can’t imagine how much I’d learn about the prospects…
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by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 10:23 PM MST up reply actions
that's only if
Myke Muzina doesn’t show up with a hipster haircut and a Nuts hat
arenado: it's Rockie for future
How else would he show up?
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by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 10:34 PM MST up reply actions
well he's Muzia's evil alter ego
so, probably with a clean shave and haircut and a really nice suit
arenado: it's Rockie for future
It is a lot of fun
I think a minor league game would be great
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Never buy season tickets for a team below AAA level.
You’re also likely to get FREE general admission tickets from time-to-time.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 1:16 PM MST up reply actions
has there been a lot of interest in season tickets?
i’ll be curious about attendance. GJ loves something new.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 10, 2012 1:40 PM MST up reply actions
According to the website
season tickets are going fast. Which means, of course, nothing. But there is a lot of excitement around the team around town. Right now the seats that are going to be for the season ticket holders (actual seats in the 1B stands, instead of the usual bench seats) don’t even exist yet. I think once they get the park done, and especially around Juco time, people will really start getting serious about buying tickets…
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by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 1:45 PM MST up reply actions
I should have checked out the new stadium...
somehow i drove through Grand Junction and completely avoided North Avenue.
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by Charlie77 on Jan 10, 2012 5:07 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Ordinarily, a really good idea
but a trip down 12th to see the stadium would have been worth the time. I do it every now and then.
You’d be shocked at the size of the structure they’re putting up there…..
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by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 5:13 PM MST up reply actions
I'm not frightened by size.
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by Charlie77 on Jan 10, 2012 5:24 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
twss
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 5:25 PM MST up reply actions
TW...
the stadium designer said….
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by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 5:25 PM MST up reply actions
About to make a vote of confidence in the Rockies...
buying a knit hat for cold night games in October.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 11:18 AM MST reply actions
i really hope that if we do make the playoffs its warm like this october was
2009 was sooooo cold. do not want a repeat of that
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by purplesocks on Jan 10, 2012 11:21 AM MST up reply actions
Seriously
The weather was something I DIDN’T think about when buying tickets for Game 3 in the Rockpile… metal bleachers and wind… yuck. It was still 8.5 of my favorite innings of live baseball.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 11:41 AM MST up reply actions
I had tix in the rockpile that game
but I sat in rf upper deck. did sit in the pile in game 4. I posted a video of muzia (and everyone else) losing their mind after Torrealba doubled off Lee in the 8th
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 10, 2012 12:28 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
i was in the rockpile for game 3 too
soooo cold. i went with my gf at the time though so she had made hot chocolate and made sure both of us were bundled up pretty good. otherwise i probably would have just gone with a light coat and gotten hypothermia that night
like you said, incredible 8.5 innings of baseball.
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by purplesocks on Jan 10, 2012 12:31 PM MST up reply actions
We had 3 wool blankets
1 for our butts, 2 for over the top of us to warm up between innings, and 2 thermoses of hot chocolate. It’s a good thing my GF and mom are such good planners, my dad and I were going to wear jerseys with underarmor. Sense was quickly talked into us.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 12:35 PM MST up reply actions
I was in the top of the upper deck, sort of behind the plate
My wife decided at the last minute that it was too cold and she didn’t want to go, so a friend of my father-in-law got the awesome phone call: “want a free playoff ticket for tonight? Bundle up and it’s yours”
I remember standing in line at Joel’s hot dog stand and talking to quite a few people who went to the Broncos game that afternoon and rode the light rail over to Coors for the night game. This is a good illustration of Denver fans: they’ll sit outdoors in 20-30 degree weather for something like 10 hours straight to see football and winning baseball. They wont show up on a 70-degree night in September to see a team that’s quit on them though.
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I have two.
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by prettyinpurple on Jan 10, 2012 12:28 PM MST up reply actions
I think I'm also going to buy
a throwback Mariners hat since it’s buy one get one for 50%… their late 70s logo is just so GD cool.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 12:31 PM MST up reply actions
if you reach into that level of geekiness
you might have to buy your gf a Harry Potter cookbook or something
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 10, 2012 12:34 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
It won't let me look inside.
/click
Arrgh!
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by prettyinpurple on Jan 10, 2012 12:44 PM MST up reply actions
i only see one book
arenado: it's Rockie for future
There's
Stalking for Dummies
and Facebook for Dummies.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 12:47 PM MST up reply actions
There was a joke in there somewhere about Facebook.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 12:48 PM MST up reply actions
yup
arenado: it's Rockie for future
I'm waiting for FaceStalking for Dummies
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I was hoping somebody
Had made the book… or at least a cover for the book that I could find on google images without exerting too much effort at work… alas, ATF will be receiving two books in the mail. He’ll have to make do.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 12:47 PM MST up reply actions
hey I wasn't stalking
you voluntarily gave that info up on purple row, with pictures
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 10, 2012 12:50 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
About the Harry Potter book?
Oh I forgot. My apologies!
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 12:51 PM MST up reply actions
And also,
The Mariners (sadly) are my AL team (along with the Tigers, less sadly). Family ties in both places.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 1:05 PM MST up reply actions
OT Bought some Little Debbie mini doughnuts this morning by mistake.
They are freaking salty. Yuk!!!
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Get well soon Juan.
This is a football blog buddy. Take your doughnut troubles elsewhere :D
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That was soooo yesterday
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isn't it "donut?"
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Potato/potahtoe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doughnut
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it's Dunkin Donuts
not Dunkin Doughnuts >.<
arenado: it's Rockie for future
What's Dunkin Doughnuts?
We only have Doughnutlant
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Get well soon Juan.
But it’s Krispy Kreme Doughnuts.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 1:17 PM MST up reply actions
Sorry, I was trying to invoke a PIP apperance.
And why am I apologizing to an AI bot?
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Get well soon Juan.
she's not a bot
she’s just a surfboard
arenado: it's Rockie for future
*a wild PIP appears*
Little Debbie, you say?
But they’re super effective! Obviously.
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by prettyinpurple on Jan 10, 2012 1:18 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
Toddfather’s Goatee uses Rec
PIPs post’s greenness increases 33%!
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 1:21 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Little Debbie is like a spongie salt lick.
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Get well soon Juan.
LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE, PIP!!!
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 4:37 PM MST up reply actions
The privately held Irving, Texas, company, which employs roughly 19,000 people and carries more than $860 million in debt, has been facing a cash squeeze amid high labor costs and rising prices for sugar, flour and other ingredients,
Like anybody would ever believe they use actual food ingredients like sugar and flour to make Twinkies…..
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by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 4:48 PM MST up reply actions
ha ha ha ha ha
I'M SORRY I WAS EVER MAD AT YOU, ROCKIES! COME BACK TO ME! I LOVE YOU!!
by prettyinpurple on Jan 10, 2012 5:03 PM MST up reply actions
She must be stopped before it's too late.
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Maholm officially signs with Chicago
Cubs signed LHP Paul Maholm to a one-year, $4.25 million contract with a $6.5 million option for 2013.
Didn’t see this posted yet, sorry if I missed it.
I don’t mind having not signed him given how bad he has been at Coors in his career. I know many of you don’t trust the sample size but I do. 7 starts, at least 6 of which were really, really, really bad is enough to convince me that a marginal pitcher like Maholm isn’t cut out for the altitude. If he came to Denver and his first 7 homes starts matched his career Coors #’s I would have long been calling for his removal from the rotation. So I am fine with not going after him.
That said, 1 year, $4.25 million with a $500,000 buyout seems like an affordable price for him. Had the Rockies made that signing I probably would have been somewhat intrigued. One year deals are generally always something I will get behind and at that price it seems like an affordable gamble.
I doubt we could have signed him for 4.25mil
I wanted Maholm, but I won’t shed any tears over this signing.
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The problem is that few pitchers are going to be willing to take a one-year deal
in Colorado. We probably don’t want those that will.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 12:02 PM MST up reply actions
Denver fans support winning teams
One thing I’ve learned living in the Denver area for the past 10 years (after growing up in Baltimore and spending a few years in southern CA) is that Denver fans will show up and support a team that’s doing well, in any sport, as well or better than fans in other cities. Most of them don’t stick around long, and they don’t generally bother to understand the nuances of the sport they’re watching, but they sure will show up and make noise when a team is winning.
The Broncos have been around for longer than the other sports remain by far the most popular, but there were even empty seats for Broncos games last season after 2 years of futility. Meanwhile, the Rockies drew close to 3 million people last year (based on paper expectations of having a division winner) and are well on their way to building a regional brand.
Denver is not a baseball city like Boston, St. Louis, Chicago, pre-Ravens Baltimore, etc.; but it’s really not bad and Coors Field will rock again when the Rockies figure out how to get back into a pennant race. It’s a lot better than places like San Diego, Arizona, and Tampa where they can’t even sell out playoff games.
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by RoarFrom112 on Jan 10, 2012 11:50 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
This
Denver’s a fair weather city (not just because of the 300 days of sunshine). I don’t necessarily mean it in a bad way – it’s mostly the way it is because of the population boom in the ’90s and ’00s. Denver has a lot of transplants. The combination of the youth/lack of “legacy” of most of our franchises, and the fact that transplants outnumber natives between 1.5 to 1 and 1.25 to 1 means that, generally, people are only going to pay to watch teams that are winning.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 11:58 AM MST up reply actions
I agree with this - pretty obvious when they show shots of other stadiums
with teams playing out the string. We had empty seats, but it wasn’t like freakin’ Miami or anything.
oh, Jeff Sullivan, there is none like you
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/1/10/2695317/prince-fielder-rumors-free-agent-propaganda
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 10, 2012 12:39 PM MST via Android app reply actions
Maybe because he’s aware of his limitations, Prince Fielder will very frequently try not to play baseball.
Love it
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 12:44 PM MST up reply actions
these were some of the things I brought up on the Row last offseason
when someone made a suggestion of replacing Helton with him. If there is one thing that is sad to watch in Wisconsin, it is Brewers baseball with all the praise they heap on a guy who just looks lost in the field and is so-so at the plate with a double play fetish
What does Ty Wigginton have to do with anything?
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 12:53 PM MST up reply actions
well, it was him or fielder
at least we picked the guy who won’t cost $150m
arenado: it's Rockie for future
That article was satirical...
Sullivan is a Mariners fan
Oh man that sucks.
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by prettyinpurple on Jan 10, 2012 1:19 PM MST up reply actions
Soup w/ built-in penicillin
This could revolutionize health care as we know it…
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by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 1:20 PM MST up reply actions
Or kill him, as it would me.....
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Yeah
I tend to be afraid of mold. Most won’t kill me, but I don’t think I would ever willingly eat a moldy piece of food (and before you ask, I do not like the moldy verities of cheese).
Sadly I am allergic to the cillin portion of medication
also codeine and sulfa drugs. Makes it a helluva challenge when I get sick…
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Hey
My brother has a sulfa allergy. Tough break :-( As a kid he always thought it was sulf-er, not sulf-a, so he got really nervous/upset when we took a family trip to Yellowstone.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 1:32 PM MST up reply actions
LOL that's funny...I mean sad but funny
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Ah, I see
I’ve only been sick enough to need meds once in the last 10 years or so, so it’s not a huge issue with me. And that was a massive combo of bronchitis, tonsillitis, and conjunctivitis, which resulted in a blown vessel in one of my eyes.
Then don't eat the soup.
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Nice or CillinSoup
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Cream of Neurospora?
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EY went and got himself a website
http://www.refuse2beignored.com/
arenado: it's Rockie for future
what on earth is this
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I guess you dont follow Lil' EY on twitter....
"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
it's like...
you post what you’re doing. like right now, i’m chilling on PR with Toddfather’s Goatee
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Who cares what you're doing?
You’re practically still a papality!
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 2:06 PM MST up reply actions
God
his twitter account is so annoying. I can’t figure out half the time what he said vs what he replied to.
i know, it's awful
cuddyer’s is bad too
arenado: it's Rockie for future
really?
Cuddyer seems straightforward to me. except the twitlonger
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 10, 2012 2:24 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
couldn't stop myself
No self control.
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Get well soon Juan.
it's just bland and lame
compared to energetic, involved guys like david price, justin upton, lomo, brandon mccarthy, etc. cuddyer is so blah
arenado: it's Rockie for future
unpossible
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…you gotta know when to fold ’em…
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that's the neatest......one of those I ever saw.
Filling up your senses like a night in the forest since 1992.
by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 10, 2012 1:54 PM MST up reply actions
it just keeps going faster and faster.
Filling up your senses like a night in the forest since 1992.
by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 10, 2012 2:08 PM MST up reply actions
Looks like a whole lot of nuthin' at this point.
"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
It also refuses to be understood.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
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Many recs.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 2:11 PM MST up reply actions
so if ignorance is bliss...
does that mean EY is determined to make us all really unhappy?
arenado: it's Rockie for future
His 2011 season suggests yes....
"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
.342 OBP
makes me happy
arenado: it's Rockie for future
s’okay…
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I agree with this story that rockies missed their shot at taking hold of denver fandom
But I unfortunately think they deserve it.
First off I think baseball should have a salary cap like football and even the playing field. Football has it right that most teams can get better quickly and challenge for the playoffs.
Even so, and this isn’t quantifiable, but I never feel like the rockies are ever daring enough or REALLY care about winning as much as they should be. I always feel like they’re too careful. I think they’ve done better as of late and I actually really like what they have done this offseason but besides the tulo and gonzo extentions i’ve never really been too impressed by what they do in the offseason pretty much every year since the Hampton signing (easy to say in hindsight the Hampton deal was bad, but its still what I wanted). And granted, I know a lot of fans will say that its good the Rockies avoid those kinds of deals to avoid the risk now days, but I still just think they’re too careful and too thrifty to be in the big leagues. I’m always going to be a Denver sports fan only, but I respect what the broncos and avalanche do with their player decisions, trades, FA signings a lot more than the rockies, and I wish it were the other way around.
.
Football has it right that most teams can get better quickly and challenge for the playoffs.
This is true about football, but it has little to do with a salary cap. A salary cap would not accomplish this in baseball. It’s propaganda.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 2:12 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
exactly
it’s got more to do with guys being drafted and the going straight to the NFL, and the small sample size of the season
arenado: it's Rockie for future
And the rigged scheduling, and four-team divisions, and non-guaranteed contracts, and a bunch of other things.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 2:15 PM MST up reply actions
and 30 seconds of game time = 3 minutes of commercials
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In fairness, baseball isn't much better
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703843804575534102219239786.html
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You're right
I’m tempted to say something snobby like “the pauses between plays encourage us to converse and discuss the game, the way wine is swirled on a tongue between sips,” but then I made myself want to throw up.
Mostly what bothers me about the lack of action in football is that anti-baseball people will say the game is boring because “there’s not enough action, it’s just standing around and waiting, etc.” But really they’re about the same when it comes to down time.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 2:35 PM MST up reply actions
But in baseball you always know when there'll be a commercial
so you can go to the bathroom. In football, you go to the bathroom, and an 80 yard touchdown pass happens because you don’t understand the new OT rule.
But anyway, I think the seconds (or minutes, if Betancourt is pitching) between pitches is what makes it intense, torturing us sometimes. You just have to think about it. And we may converse between each other, etc.
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by prettyinpurple on Jan 10, 2012 2:40 PM MST up reply actions
The tension is what's different
In football, you have 3rd and goal with 10 seconds on the clock. But the play happens and they either make it or you don’t. It usually only happens once and the drama’s over.
In baseball you have bottom of the 9th, bases loaded with 2 outs and you’re down a run. Then there’s a pitch and it’s the same thing except now the count’s 1-0, then another pitch. Soon it ends up a 2-2 count, then Helton fouls off 5 more pitches and it’s still a 2-2 count. The “moments” of high tension can go on for a very long time. There’s just no football equivalent to that.
"The game of baseball is made up of many little things. If we do all the little things right, then we'll never have a big thing to worry about" -- Cal Ripken, Sr.
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by RoarFrom112 on Jan 10, 2012 2:45 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
So true.
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by prettyinpurple on Jan 10, 2012 2:47 PM MST up reply actions
The closest you get in football is:
:04 on the clock, Team X down 3 points on the opponent’s 40 yard line, about to attempt an ~55 yard FG… the snap is clean, the kick has plenty of leg… it…. is… GOOOO—wait, wait the opposing coach called a last minute TO to freeze the kicker. Rinse and repeat.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 2:48 PM MST up reply actions
Also there is no stalling in baseball. There is no “staying in bounds to keep the clock running.”
If you have a one run lead with 2 on in the 9th, you have to make those pitches. You can’t dally around until the game is over.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 10, 2012 2:51 PM MST up reply actions
Yup
You have to play the other team, not the clock.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 2:52 PM MST up reply actions
That's one of the reasons I like Baseball
On the other hand, if one of the 11 guys make a mistake on a single play in football, it could mean the game for the team making the mistake.
I’m here to say Football == Baseball as far as pure enjoyment goes.
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Get well soon Juan.
Time to brush the dust off the Earl Weaver quote:
You can’t sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You’ve got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That’s why baseball is the greatest game of them all.
(note: the same is true of Tennis, and once in awhile pro tennis does the tension thing as well as, or maybe even better than, baseball.)
"The game of baseball is made up of many little things. If we do all the little things right, then we'll never have a big thing to worry about" -- Cal Ripken, Sr.
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by RoarFrom112 on Jan 10, 2012 3:03 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Amen
There is no such thing as true “garbage time” in baseball.
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There are those who call me..."Skip".
I snark because I care.
by Paleface Destro on Jan 10, 2012 10:19 PM MST up reply actions
Clearly you missed most of the Rockies 2011
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Oh no...there is not enough alcohol available to blot THAT out
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by Paleface Destro on Jan 12, 2012 12:02 AM MST up reply actions
Here's a good one
"Like a baseball game, wars are not over till they are over. Wars don’t run on a clock like football. No previous generation was so hopelessly unrealistic that this had to be explained to them." ~Thomas Sowell
"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." ~Tallulah Bankhead
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~Greg, age 8
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yep
“Baseball has no penalties at all. A home run is a home run. You cheer. In football, on a score, you look for flags. If there’s one, who’s it on? When can we cheer? Football acts can be repealed. Baseball acts stand forever.”
— Thomas Boswell, author
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by prettyinpurple on Jan 10, 2012 2:54 PM MST up reply actions
haha and while on google, I found this:
Baseball Almanac- Why Is Baseball So Much Better Than Football
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by prettyinpurple on Jan 10, 2012 2:56 PM MST up reply actions
I love it
I really do like Football… it just doesn’t hold a candle up to baseball in any way, shape or form.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 2:57 PM MST up reply actions
heh, yeah we were talking about that a while back.
it was in a book i had as a kid.
One thing that always stuck with me was this:
The coin flip at the beginning of football games is idiotic. Home teams should always kick off and pick a goal to defend. In baseball, the visitor bats first (courtesy), while the host bats last (for drama). The football visitor should get the first chance to score, while the home team should have the dramatic advantage of receiving the second-half kickoff
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 10, 2012 3:01 PM MST up reply actions
The coinflip and clock in OT are even more ridiculous
one place I think college football does a far better job than the NFL (though the NFL is starting to come around)
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this quote is borderline outdated now
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 10, 2012 3:07 PM MST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
i seem to recall garrett atkins having a home run in game 163 that was ruled NOT a home run
still bitter about that one
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Yup
Would’ve rendered all the Holiday plate controversy meaningless.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 3:41 PM MST up reply actions
The umpires knew Atkins was a flash in the pan before he was a flash in the pan and rendered the hr meaningless. Kudos to the umpires for understanding what we were all afraid to admit.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
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speaking of flash in the pan,
Garrett would like some of the pan fried catfish, with the side of sausage. And can you bring a side of biscuits and gravy with that? Also cornbread and a steak to nibble on while he’s waiting?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 10, 2012 3:46 PM MST up reply actions
no
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
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I should elaborate.
no.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
PRMLB: The Brew Crew
hotdoghotdoghotdog
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 10, 2012 3:48 PM MST up reply actions
Excellent post
I’ve been trying to put this into words forever, but could not come up with the right combination of situations. You nailed it for me, and now I have ammunition in the War Against “Baseball is Boring”. Thanks!
Waiting for spring.
Yep
There are some differences. In baseball you have more pauses between pitches but each one is shorter. In football, you have fewer overall plays but there are so many moving parts you really do need to see a replay or two to understand what happened. In baseball, you generally know what happened the first time and the only thing worth replaying is close plays or big plays.
"The game of baseball is made up of many little things. If we do all the little things right, then we'll never have a big thing to worry about" -- Cal Ripken, Sr.
Yankee Haters Encouragement Group Member #3
Strained my finger, I rec'd this so hard!
A $100 Million salary cap would mean that the owners of the Yankees and RedSox would have an extra $100 million in their pockets, but little else…
"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
While I'm not a proponent of it
I do wonder what a salary cap would do to the ballooning price of FAs.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 2:16 PM MST up reply actions
Not too much.
The caps haven’t really controlled FA salaries in other sports either.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 2:18 PM MST up reply actions
It would be a restraint.
We can argue about the effects of a cap on competitiveness all day long, but I think everyone would agree that it would depress the growth of player salaries.
"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
But it really hasn't.
This has been shown. It only depresses the league average and minimum salaries, but the big stars can still demand high salaries because the teams are willing to pay them. In order to pay them, they end up taking money away from lesser players or older veterans. The top players still get their money.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 2:21 PM MST up reply actions
And, in general, they still end up with the big-spending teams.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 2:23 PM MST up reply actions
And I think the reverse may be true as well
Players will be willing to go to the Red Sox or the Yankees or the Dodgers over another, less “legendary” franchise… so the top players still get top money, and the top teams still get top players
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 2:23 PM MST up reply actions
What's the control group look like?
How much more could have a superstar made in a non-capped league?
I’ll withdraw my contention that there isn’t any argument…at least at the top end of players.
"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
are we talking about the NBA now?
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On a Football/Knitting/Math blog?
What are you, crazy?
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 2:29 PM MST up reply actions
Jury's still out on Math
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Jury is still out on crazy.
as well!
"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
That's not what they told me.....
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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Who are you going to trust? Me, or...
those voices in your head???
"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
Depends on who's voice is talking at the time...:)
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Those voices in SDcat09's head...
are the jury! Dun dun DUUUUNNNN!!
Also, on a different note… can someone who doesn’t exist have voices in theirhead?
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 2:36 PM MST up reply actions
Well duh, because the voices don't exist.
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by prettyinpurple on Jan 10, 2012 2:40 PM MST up reply actions
they're called 'imaginary friends'
I suppose if we can imagine a friend named SDcat09 then that friend can imagine they hear voices.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
Huh. Imagine that..
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
okay so I'm confused
Are we all imagining SDCat?
And she’s our imaginary friend? : (
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by prettyinpurple on Jan 10, 2012 2:42 PM MST up reply actions
Cat is the voice...
in our collective head!
"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
I'm not sure.
Given the “soft” cap in the NBA, it might be (depending on how bad my understanding of that cap is) a kind of control group, that shows us how effective an NFL style cap is at slowing the growth of saleries at the top end.
I’m open to being educated…
"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
The value of a player is determined by the price that a team(s) is willing to pay for that player, not by the salary cap. The salary cap is only a restriction on how much that team might spend overall, but not on an individual player. That team can get around that restriction by freeing up room under the cap, so the value of the player doesn’t change because of the cap.
The team then frees up room under the cap by paying less to other players but not the stars. The other players have to take this cut because they cannot demand higher value because their skills do not warrant it. So, the contracts for stars continue to rise regardless of the cap because their value is not determined by the cap.
All that a cap does is give the owners cost certainty so that they can continue to make money regardless of how they run their teams. It’s designed to benefit the owners only. That cost certainty comes from an overall control on payroll not a control on individual contracts. Since having marketable stars benefits the owners, the control is gained by depressing the salaries of the average players.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 2:37 PM MST up reply actions
That was my attempt to be brief. :(
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 2:39 PM MST up reply actions
tl:dr
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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I explained this internet lingo to my parents over Christmas
during a discussion about Christmas family letters.
So that means something?
I figured it was just a typo, like when I occasionally post “zz”.
Heh. I'll bet that went over well
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No no, they were on the same side.
They were complaining about getting letters from other people that were too long.
I wonder at what rate the highest paid players salaries have increased compared to the mean salaries
for both the NFL and the MLB over the last 10 years.
My complete guess would be that MLB’s top paid players have seen a bigger increase in their salary compared to the mean than in the NFL. I don’t really have anything to back up that hypothesis though
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I can't even imagine how many seasons
would be lost to lockout/strikes to get a cap in baseball.
So, no, I don’t want a cap. Competitive balance is already decent, and I really like peace we have had between players and ownership.
So
I was reading Wyoming fishing regulations to find out if I can get a resident license this year (which I can’t until July, bunch of BS). Anyway, stumbled across this… it is illegal to fish in Wyoming while in possession of corn.
I’m not sure if that includes Korn, but really, if you posses that, you should be in violation of some law anyway.
When corn possesion is outlawed...
only outlaws will possess corn!
"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
by RdRnnr on Jan 10, 2012 2:15 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
This is funny.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 2:16 PM MST up reply actions
just googled and asked...but 'cuz l spelled flsh wlth a small L.. google read lt as flush and dlrected
me to a nutrlton and then to plumblng sltes……………………………………
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by butterfly on Jan 10, 2012 2:20 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
It's funny.
But it makes me want to buy you a new keyboard.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 2:27 PM MST up reply actions
I was trying to craft a witty response
But my boss came by and then I forgot… very funny!! I liked it.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 2:27 PM MST up reply actions
You realize those two things are not mutually exclusive :)
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I don't know...
/prepares to groan
"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
Fssshh
The joke is much better if you say it.
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Get well soon Juan.
/groooooaaaannnnnnn
"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
Wait wait wait
“what do you caL”? Or “what do you cai”?
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 2:49 PM MST up reply actions
Sounds like pretty crappy search results if you ask me
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Jan 10, 2012 3:18 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Rockies fantasy camp coaches
Dante Bichette, Vinny Castilla, Larry Walker, Charlie Blackmon, Rex Brothers, Jorge De La Rosa, Chris Nelson, Bob Apodaca, Rich Dauer, Jim Wright, Pat Burgess, Marv Foley, Trenidad Hubbard, Rick Matthews, George Frazier and Jeff Huson.
http://rockiesfantascamp.mlblogs.com/2012/01/10/2012-fantasy-camp-coaches-finalized/
sounds fun
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 10, 2012 4:04 PM MST via Android app reply actions
‘awww man, I’m on the team with Chris Nelson and Marv Foley, whatta ripoff’
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
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Seriously
Although Chris Nelson is hiLARious.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 4:06 PM MST up reply actions
I'm not very athletic, so fantasy camp doesn't hold much interest for me.
Although I’d go and hang out with the guys if I could be official scorekeeper…
"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
seriously though, what is this? is it for kids?
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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Well, on Seinfeld Kramer went to the Yankees fantasy camp where he punched Mickey Mantle in the face after getting into an argument with him
Based entirely on that small bit in a TV episode, I think adults can go to the fantasy camps
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by purplesocks on Jan 10, 2012 4:13 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
"Kramer's whole life is a fantasy camp!"
A favorite George rant: here
by Northsider1964 on Jan 10, 2012 6:45 PM MST up reply actions
theyve done it for years
its for adults who want to feel like baseball players. you get a locker at salt river and rockies jersey and everything. I think my mom put me in a drawing to go (guessing it didn’t happen).
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 10, 2012 4:14 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
It’s for adults with a lot of money to waste.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 4:14 PM MST up reply actions
It does include airfare, shared hotel room, and all meals (I think). It isn’t as bad ad it sounds, but you need to have $$$.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 4:20 PM MST up reply actions
Someday i will do this!
..doesn’t matter how many body parts i have to sell first.
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by Charlie77 on Jan 10, 2012 5:23 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
If you sell both arms, both legs, and both eyes
I think it might matter, at least as far as how much you enjoy the camp…
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 5:26 PM MST up reply actions
Me too
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lol @ all of these explanations. Sounds like it’d be fun to go to and just be drunk and not take seriously though.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
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I have a feeling that some of the others there would not take kindly to that.
I knew some guys who did the Orioles camp. They were serious.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 4:17 PM MST up reply actions
That's probably why George Frazier is on the staff....
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 4:49 PM MST up reply actions
found this site
Looks like you have to be 21 or older to participate. So its all adults. Looks pretty serious too
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tryout game, a draft, end of camp awards....
i guess if i ever want my self-esteem crushed and i have $5000 burning a hole in my pocket, i know how to do it
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Trenidad Hubbard?
There’s a name that takes you way back
Who is Rick Matthews? A fangraphs search yielded a bunch of names including Rick James
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I think mathews is a minor league coach, and/or ST helper like Hubbard
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 10, 2012 4:12 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Hubbard
is the roaming OF coach in the minor league system. Matthews was the Rox bullpen coach for a few years and is now the roaming C coach I think
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A question for ST or Mini-Plan Holders
Can you can only get the tickets to Rockies Fest if you were previously a holder of a plan? I specifically tried to buy a mini-plan a few weeks ago so that we could go to Rockies Fest on Saturday, they told me that I had to wait until they had finished seating “people who already had mini plans.”
So I get a call today that they can do my mini-plans, but I can’t go to the Rockies Fest for mini-plan holders and season ticket holders because it’s sold out. How does that work then?
GO ROCKIES!
I'm a believeR!
That stinks.
I feel like you deserve some free tickets to day #2 :-(
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 10, 2012 4:10 PM MST up reply actions
It’s only for renewers. I got my tickets this year, but this was my second year with a plan. If I hadn’t already given mine away, I would have hooked you up.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 4:16 PM MST up reply actions
Is fanfest fun?
I have a friend who just got a job with the rockies and will be working it so she wants me to go but I looked at the schedule and it just seems like its a bunch of autograph lines.
What all really goes on there?
PRMLB - Tampa Bay Rays
Some hanky, mostly panky.
Filling up your senses like a night in the forest since 1992.
by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 10, 2012 4:20 PM MST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ago-acfPgA
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 10, 2012 4:23 PM MST up reply actions
You'll know the organization is serious about winning...
when they focus on getting the hanky:panky ratio right!
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OT: I helped get a criminal arrested today.
That’s what happens when you try and steal Reba’s jeans!
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by Charlie77 on Jan 10, 2012 5:30 PM MST via Android app reply actions
And is Annie OK?
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
In line for seats at the Grand Junction Rockies 2012 home opener
by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 5:35 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Are her jeans Fancy?
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
In line for seats at the Grand Junction Rockies 2012 home opener
by Junction Rox on Jan 10, 2012 5:36 PM MST up reply actions
Another day closer to ST, no movement on pitching ML wide
Something’s got to pop soon. Too many useful pitchers still out there. Someone’s gonna accept a lowball offer one of these days, and then all the dominoes start falling. I hope we’re at least trying, even though it’s hard to convince a pitcher to come here.
by BostonTransplant on Jan 10, 2012 8:20 PM MST reply actions
poor guy
took the best closer on the market this long to sign
arenado: it's Rockie for future
That's going to be a hell of a back-end of the bullpen
Sean Marshall setting him up.
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
ahahahaha, I sign Joe Crede and two days later he collides with someone and is out for 6 months. whatta scrub.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
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"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~Greg, age 8
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JFK
I think the pendulum swing is temporary
As entertaining as Tebow Time is, Los Burros are playing with house money. Saint Elway at least seems to get that.
I think the Rockies aren’t as far off as they appeared last season. It’ll just take some patience..and what is baseball but a game of patience?
There is a reason that the one Denver team I could easily get behind when I moved here five years ago was the Rockies. They were the hidden gem…the only team that was worth it.
I still believe that. Those who understand that will come back around eventually. This will always be a Broncos town, but I can deal with a solid second built on a base of classy and discerning fans (which is how I view the Rockies’ fan base anyway).
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I snark because I care.
by Paleface Destro on Jan 10, 2012 10:16 PM MST reply actions
Do you think there'd be more passion if they were called the Denver Rockies?
PRMLB - The San Francisco Giants are better than you
No...the true meatheads would look for a variant of "Broncos"
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Is this Heaven? No...it's the Carrier Dome.
There are those who call me..."Skip".
I snark because I care.
by Paleface Destro on Jan 11, 2012 11:59 PM MST up reply actions
You haven't met many of us, have you?
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 11, 2012 6:49 AM MST up reply actions
Let me have my fantasies!!!
I have so little left…
Paleface Destro: The Resident Smartass of the Ubaldo Lovers Club
Is this Heaven? No...it's the Carrier Dome.
There are those who call me..."Skip".
I snark because I care.
by Paleface Destro on Jan 11, 2012 11:58 PM MST up reply actions
Your fantasies involve us?
I am okay with that.
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You had me at "Purple Row"
Paleface Destro: The Resident Smartass of the Ubaldo Lovers Club
Is this Heaven? No...it's the Carrier Dome.
There are those who call me..."Skip".
I snark because I care.
by Paleface Destro on Jan 13, 2012 9:53 PM MST up reply actions
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