Wednesday Rockpile: Making Sense of the Colorado Rockies' 2012 Rotation Candidates
by Jeff Aberle on Jan 18, 2012 6:30 AM MST
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PrintOkay, Dan O'Dowd. This whole #AcquireAllTheYoungArms (and the really old ones too) is getting a little ridiculous. By my count, the Rockies will come into spring with as many as 17 guys competing for 5 rotation slots (and as many as two bullpen positions) on the Opening Day roster. And that's not even including a guy who will be a lock for a spot when he returns from injury (Jorge De La Rosa).
Obviously, not all 17 of these guys will be seriously considered for a spot, but I think that it's only fair that we get to know these gentlemen a little better (but only a little better -- I mean, we've got 17 guys!). So without further adieu, I give you your 2012 Colorado Rockies rotation candidates!
Prospects Almost Certainly Ticketed for AA or AAA
Name: Rob Scahill
Codename: Chill Boars
Relationship Status: Single -- he's got 3 options remaining
Street Cred: Powerful right arm, durable (150+ IP in last two years), decent groundball rate
Fatal Flaw: Lacks prospect pedigree, effective off-speed pitches
Verdict: Future set-up man has a minor league present
Name: Joe Gardner
Codename: Deer Jargon
Relationship Status: 3 options
Street Cred: Lots of groundballs, plus velocity
Fatal Flaw: Doesn't have a great strikeout rate, combines it with a high walk rate
Verdict: Another minor leaguer in 2012 with the potential to get involved in the bullpen
Name: Edwar Cabrera
Codename: Beer Car Award
Relationship Status: 3 options
Street Cred: Phenomenal strikeout rate (led MiLB in 2011), nasty change-up, low walk rate, left-handed
Fatal Flaw: Small stature, was a little old for High A ball
Verdict: There certainly are Juan Nicasio parallels to be drawn with Cabrera, but he'll spend the year in AA
Name: Christian Friedrich
Codename: Dirtier Finch Chairs
Relationship Status: 3 options
Street Cred: 1st round pedigree, decent K/BB rates, left-handed
Fatal Flaw: Mystifying lack of progress/regression last two years at AA
Verdict: Beginning a third straight year in AA, maybe a bump up to AAA
Name: Chad Bettis
Codename: Ditch Beast
Relationship Status: 3 options
Street Cred: High 90's velocity, multiple plus pitches, dominated every level so far
Fatal Flaw: Hasn't pitched above High A
Verdict: Ticketed for AA, Rockies see him as more of a relief contributor, which to me is a real shame
Well, that's 5 candidates dispatched of. Now the sorting gets a little trickier.
Fringe Back End Starter Types
Name: Clayton Mortensen
Codename: Mostly No Entrance
Relationship Status: It's Complicated -- he might have a bonus option, but that's all up the air right now
Street Cred: Threw 58.1 innings in the big leagues for Colorado
Fatal Flaw: Most of them weren't very good innings, lacks a major league out pitch
Verdict: If he stays with the organization, he'll anchor the rear of the AAA rotation
Name: Esmil Rogers
Codename: Silo Mergers
Relationship Status: In a Relationship -- he's got no options
Street Cred: High 90s velocity, multiple breaking pitches, great potential
Fatal Flaw: Inability to hide ball leads to batting practice for MLB hitters at times, prone to wildness
Verdict: Might fill out the bullpen as the 7th guy, otherwise he's trade bait if anybody wants him
The Seth Smith Trade
Name: Guillermo Moscoso
Codename: Cruise Gloom Looms (too soon?)
Relationship Status: It's Complicated -- might have a bonus option to use
Street Cred: Shiny MLB ERA last year in the AL (3.78), recently learned a cutter,
Fatal Flaw: He makes it rain...flyballs, poor strikeout rate, shiny ERA came in pitcher's park, worst xFIP among qualified starters last year
Verdict: If that magic cutter shows up in spring training, he's a strong candidate for the last spot in the rotation
Name: Josh Outman
Codename: Josh Outman -- I'm pretty sure that can't be his real name
Relationship Status: Single -- 2 options remaining
Street Cred: He's a pitcher and his name is Outman (I swear, this column just writes itself), prior MLB success over three seasons, left-handed,
Fatal Flaw: MLB flyball tendencies, put up numbers in the Oakland Mausoleum, doesn't possess elite stuff
Verdict: If there isn't a place for a lefty starter in the rotation, Outman seems like a candidate to come out of the pen or start the year off in AAA
A note on this: Outman looks like the better guy to have, right? So then why do the Rockies seem higher on Moscoso? Maybe I'm just reading too much into things. Here's a SB Nation article about the Smith trade and an article from 10 years ago at Baseball Prospectus that suggests a blueprint for winning at Coors Field.
Jamie Moyer
Name: Jamie Moyer
Codename: Mime Joy Era
Relationship Status: Married -- Moyer last had an option year before I was born
Street Cred: Crafty lefty, great clubhouse presence, can double as pitching coach
Fatal Flaw: Has vivid memories of the 60s, has allowed the most home-runs in history, might have more MLB service time than everyone else on this list combined
Verdict: I don't see a place for him on the team...but can you really see Jim Tracy saying no to Jamie Moyer?
Prospects on the Verge
Name: Tyler Chatwood
Codename: Wealthy Doctor
Relationship Status: 3 options
Street Cred: Pitched a full season in the AL last year at only 21 years old, high 90s velocity, multiple off-speed pitches round out arsenal
Fatal Flaw: He got shelled last year - putting up the second worst xFIP among qualified starters, lacks ideal size, poor command
Verdict: I don't see him the rotation this year, but he could be a dynamite set-up man from the pen
Name: Alex White
Codename: Whale Exit
Relationship Status: 3 options
Street Cred: 1st round pedigree, high velocity, multiple out pitches, competitive streak
Fatal Flaw: Was pretty terrible (injuries aside) during Rockies cameo, will he be healthy?
Verdict: I think that if Juan Nicasio or Drew Pomeranz isn't ready, White will take a slot, otherwise it's off to AA/AAA
Name: Drew Pomeranz
Codename: Warmed Zen Pro
Relationship Status: 3 options
Street Cred: Polished lefty with multiple out pitches, plus control/command, 1st round pedigree
Fatal Flaw: Doesn't have a lot of pro innings under his belt, lacks elite velocity
Verdict: He'll make the rotation as the lone lefty starter
MLB Veterans
Outside of Moyer, these are the only two guys with at least three years of MLB service time among the 17 guys on this list. Which is pretty crazy when you think about it.
Name: Kevin Slowey
Codename: Weekly Vinos
Relationship Status: 2 options left
Street Cred: Historically elite K/BB ratio, has already been a league average pitcher twice
Fatal Flaw: Injuries have limited him two out of the last 4 years, high flyball tendencies, lacks elite stuff
Verdict: I see Slowey filling out the back of the rotation -- and I believe that he'll post surprisingly acceptable numbers from that spot
Name: Jason Hammel
Codename: Manhole Jams
Relationship Status: No options
Street Cred: 3 years of league average production, good velocity, durable
Fatal Flaw: Low strikeout rate, poor control last year, eminently hittable, peripherals show some danger signs
Verdict: Will either be trade bait or will be 2 or 3 in the Opening Day rotation
La Violencia
Name: Juan Nicasio
Codename: Ouija Sin Can
Relationship Status: At least 1 option left, maybe 2
Street Cred: Excellent velocity, good K rate, great performance in MLB call-up in hitter's park
Fatal Flaw: That whole broken neck thing, limited MLB experience
Verdict: If he's healthy, Nicasio is Colorado's 2nd or 3rd best starter going into Spring Training -- it'll be a rotation slot or the DL
The Machine
Name: Jhoulys Chacin
Codename: Launch Icy Josh
Relationship Status: 1 option remaining
Street Cred: Multiple great years in MLB before the age of 24, multiple out pitches,
Fatal Flaw: Issues with control have kept him from going deeper into games
Verdict: Write Chacin's name down in pen at the top of the 2012 Opening Day rotation
* Yes, the codenames are just anagrams
So the 2012 Opening Day Rotation Looks Like...
1. Chacin
2. Hammel
3. Nicasio
4. Pomeranz
5. Slowey
The bottom line here is that while Colorado may have a whole bunch of guys who would be back-end options for many teams, they have very few guys who project as anything better than that (at least for the 2012 season). With all that pitching talent so close to the majors, the probability of somebody panning out at the major league level isn't bad, but until that happens the 2012 rotation appears to be a mess.
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Clayton Mortonsen has some sick street cred, too bad street cred isn’t always true
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
he also isn't left handed
"Some guy on the net thinks I suck, and he should know - he's got his own blog." - Nick Hornby
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 7:11 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
thats kinda where I was going with that
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 7:30 AM MST up reply actions
this is what happens when you have to be at work before 7
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"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 7:38 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
u get sick street cred, especially when you wake up at 5:15 to go run and get your wife flowers for her birthday, because you forgot too get them Yesterday
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 7:50 AM MST up reply actions
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we traded all our ML talent for a bunch of questionable prole pitchers.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
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all of our ML talent that won us 73 games?
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 8:58 AM MST up reply actions
yes!!!!!
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
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we want a good draft pick, there is a kid that is coming up that is better than Babe Ruth
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 9:00 AM MST up reply actions
Lets do it!
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If Slowey Moyer and Hammel are going to be in our rotation, Johnny Herrera and Giambi on our bench, Raffy our closer, and Jim Tracy our coach? I’d say we are already doing it
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 9:17 AM MST up reply actions
Why is Raffy included in that mix?
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Cuz I don’t think he is very good
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 10:29 AM MST up reply actions
because regardless of home/away, good/bad opponent, about 1 of every 3 starts is really bad
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 10:46 AM MST up reply actions
Cuz I don’t think he is gonna have a very good year
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 10:29 AM MST up reply actions
Why?
the guy has just posted 3 consecutive sub 3 FIP seasons with around 10/1 K/BB if anyone on this team is likely to be good it is betancourt
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Might be due for some mild HR/FB regression
but that number doubled from 2009 to 2010, and he still posted a good ERA and great FIP/xFIP.
No reason he shouldn’t continue the awesome K/BB ratio.
maybe but plenty of relievers
had amazing years past their age 36 season Billy Wagner and Arthur Rhodes jump to mind as recent examples
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
John Franco, Trevor Hoffman
it is a pretty long list
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
traditional age curves don't translate exactly to relievers
they tend to make the majors later, and have smaller workloads than starters
arenado: it's Rockie for future
I think Raffy's getting close though.
We see him break down, we know about the nagging injuries.
I’m not as high on him as others. But I’m wishing he does keep that ridiculous K/BB, but I’m not exactly expecting it.
@DylanZable
by CentralCaliRox on Jan 18, 2012 1:20 PM MST up reply actions
Except for '08 and the beginning of '09 he's always had good control.
The number that worries me is HRs, but he’s never given up more than 11 in a season. Not sure why he’d start now, though, given that he’s kept the rate in check over the last two years I’m not too worried.
Trying to comp him through age 36 is tough on BR
they comp him more to ERA/Middle Reliever status rather than by K/BB/HR% but almost all of his comps pitched effectively into their 40’s
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
more or less a gut feeling/opinion, i know i know, they are frowned upon in this establishment of Sabermetrics, but just a feeling, hes been around a long time and only 27 career saves. Closing roles can do weird things to pitchers. Could be fine tho
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 11:51 AM MST up reply actions
yeah but look at his Career splits he is the exact same
pitcher in save situations as he is out of them, I had that same shaky feeling on him but last year cured it.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Betancourt may suffer from inflated expectations
Because the guy was a James Loney solo HR away from throwing a damn-near-perfect half season. Obviously that isn’t going to happen again, but I think he’ll be solid. Getting him leads to protect in the 9th will be the issue.
by Northsider1964 on Jan 18, 2012 12:30 PM MST up reply actions
that 13/1 K/BB in 2012 followed by that 9/1 K/BB
in 2011 means I am all in on Raffy
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Slowey could be our closer too
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 2:59 PM MST up reply actions
Slowey isn't slow enough to be our closer
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Jan 18, 2012 3:05 PM MST up reply actions
He also can't swing around like Raffy.
33 today, 32 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Plus, its 6 days until I go to Las Vegas to bowl in a professional tournament and 7 days until I start bowling
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
Raffy has almost 12 K/9 with a .91 WHIP over
the last two years as much as anyone can trust a 37 yo I trust Raffy
V. RHB 2011 .189/.194/.339 47/1 K/BB that is evil
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Now that was an entertaining read ...
… and the well thought out analysis was just gravy! I was going with Dirtier Finch Chairs as the best codename and then there was Manhole Jams…ouch.
Maybe you are on to something but you buried the lead? We could vote on the best codenames and those guys should make the rotation. Hell, if our offseason to date has been so seemingly contrarian, why not take it all the way.
For Juan Nicasio, I might have gone with Senior K, but his is good
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 7:32 AM MST up reply actions
all the codenames are anagrams
so Senior K would not be an option
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by I_Am_Marshall on Jan 18, 2012 7:34 AM MST up reply actions
duh…i knew that after i read it, and then i totally forgot and went with a nickname
#feelsodumbrightnow
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 7:41 AM MST up reply actions
I don't see what Slowey brings to this team
True, he’s got an elite K/BB rate, but that’s because his walks are so low, not his strikeouts being high. He has a career BABIP that’s already high and is sure to increase in Coors. If DJLM is starting 2B, then the entire right side of our defense has limited range (Helton, DJLM, Cuddyer), which isn’t going to help the BABIP, especially against left-handed batters. He’s got a salary just under 3 million that can go off the books if he doesn’t make the team. I see them being much more likely to give that 5th spot to Moscoso or Outman.
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veteraniness
also specialness
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Jan 18, 2012 10:24 AM MST up reply actions
A future as an incredibly useful ROOGY?
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
In his three largest sample seasons, Slowey featured above average strikeout rates
2008: 6.9 K/9, 2009: 7.4, 2010: 6.7. His career rate is 6.8 K/9. The K/BB rate is not just a feature of extremely low walk rates.
I’m confused by the volume of flyball pitchers acquired (if you include Outman as an FB pitcher), but Slowey’s acquisition by itself is a positive. Two of our outfielders are fleet-footed and can compensate if his GB rate remains low. And, after playing behind him for five years, hopefully Cuddyer knows how to position himself to make up for his lack of defensive prowess.
Also, the infield defense is not going to be Slowey’s problem.
we had to bring a friend for cuddyer,
so he has an easier time adjusting at first
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Chad Bettis
Rockies see him as more of a relief contributor, which to me is a real shame
From everything I’ve read, the Rockies are going to give him an opportunity show he’s a starter. So far he’s aced all the questions on the High A test but still needs to pass the one in AA Tulsa before their long term view changes. I’d say the jury is still out here. If he really can be an effective starter – I believe he can for what it’s worth – then that’s probably what he’s going to become.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 18, 2012 7:13 AM MST reply actions
I find it so funny, how he can dominate at being a starter in the minors but hes viewed as a bullpen piece
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 7:33 AM MST up reply actions
It's because he
has an awesome sinker and a nasty slider but still needs to improve his curveball and changeup. Right now he has the tools to be an outstanding bullpen piece but if he delvelops those other pitches, then he’s without a doubt a starter.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 18, 2012 7:47 AM MST up reply actions
two plus hard pitches is filthy in A ball
generally, you need a workable offspeed pitch in MLB though. it’ll be interesting to see how Juan Nicasio does with this though
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 7:52 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
How can you not have a workable offspeed pitch and be in the minors? I suppose I could teach him the Bunny pitch, it works as a knuckling slurve. I got taught it in little league because it works as a curve ball, but does not strain the forearm because you dont have to snap it as hard, good for young kids
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 8:04 AM MST up reply actions
Because the Curveballs and Changeups that mow down NCAA and A+ players
get hit over fences by MLB players
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I know, it sucks…ask Arodys Vizcaino about it. Probably a top 30 prospect for the upcoming season and it’s looking like he’s going to the BP.
On the other hand, having four lock-down relief pitchers should make the Braves nigh unbeatable when they get a lead.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
I thought this was a Houston Astros site?
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Jan 18, 2012 9:37 AM MST up reply actions
That the genius of the Gievett clones
The player development people drink allot of Geivett’s Kool-aid. Too bad he never threw an inning anywhere in pro ball but somehow he is an expert when it comes to developing our young pitchers. He has a knack for lenghtening their arms out, slowing their arms down and having them look pretty. So what does that add up to, lost velocity. Number 1 case in point is Chaz Roe and not to mention Peter Tago. .
by goodniteirene on Jan 20, 2012 8:15 PM MST up reply actions
Would it really be so awful if he becomes our Venters/Kimbrel
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I would say they were the "Killer Bees"
but we already have them this year’s bullpen now that Belisle, Brothers, and Betancourt coming in for innings seven, eight, and nine.
If you knock our starter out of the game, first you get the Matt’s, and then the Killer Bees (with Belisle acting as the bridge).
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 18, 2012 7:53 AM MST up reply actions
Ditch Beast
would be a sweet name for a stoner rock band.
Is it April yet?
by Rosenort on Jan 18, 2012 7:29 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
Chatwood really is an amazing story
Angels #2 2011 prospect pitches in poorly in his age 21 season but no worse than Hammel did in his age 24 or 25 season or JDLR did as a 25/26 yo and everyone write him off as minor league depth.
If your Age 21 season was all the better you get then Randy Johnson, John Smoltz, or Curt Schilling would have all been pitching in the International League.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Chatwood will be in the rotation in 2012.
The only question is: When?
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 18, 2012 7:49 AM MST up reply actions
As of right now Chatwood profiles as our 2014 5th starter
with Pom, Chaci, White, Nicasio all cost Controlled 1-4 add Bettis and Matzek in the pen and we are primed for Tulo’s prime
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
add Arenado at 3B maybe Wheeler in RF even if Rosario is Olivo(I think he probably BBs more)
that gives us a cheap Rotation, Bullpen, 3B, C, RF with 1B likely to be addressed through trade by then ala Rizzo this year and hopefully we have an above average 2B in Story, and Rosell Herrera is pushing Dex to the trading block(or dex has been extended).
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
why is rosario compared to olivio? Because hes latin?
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 8:05 AM MST up reply actions
Latin, freeswinging, big power, high Ks, strong arm, poor receiving skills, no walks
I don’t like comps much, but this one fits
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 8:15 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
fair enough
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 8:28 AM MST up reply actions
well he could just as easily draw comparisons to Arrenciba, Barajas or Napoli(my favorite)
I use Olivo because he is familar here, personally I believe Rosario ends up more toward Napoli than Olivo.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
because he’s strong defensively, hits for a lot of power, strikes out a bunch, and doesn’t walk much.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
PRMLB: The Brew Crew
Here are their first stints in AA
Mike Napoli
Age 23 AA 541PA .237/.372/.508 88BB 140K 31HR
Rod Barajas
Age 23 AA 548PA .318/.354/.488 24BB 73K 14HR
Miguel Olivo
Age 22 AA 368PA .259/.347/.472 37BB 62K 14HR
Wilin Rosario
Age 21 AA 297PA .285/.342/.552 21BB 57K 19HR
lets just hope that Wilin’s injury was messing with his game in 2011
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I think I’m starting to think that if Rosario can keep hitting for a lot of power and be as strong as he’s reported to be defensively, I can live with low OBP numbers…
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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Considering that he has been young for every level in the minors
his .267/.316/.449 line is pretty good, and would look great in the 7 or 8 hole for the nex six years. Especially if the rest of his defensive game catches up with his arm
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Better hope he hits
You better hope on that bat, cause he can’t call a game and he scares the living daylights out of umpires behind the plate when he catches.
by goodniteirene on Jan 20, 2012 8:18 PM MST up reply actions
Unfortunately though
Strong minor league BB% and strong minor league BB/K ratio are the two stats that usually translate best to a strong major league wRC+.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 18, 2012 10:30 AM MST up reply actions
mike napoli
<3
arenado: it's Rockie for future
You think Rizzo will be made available?
Seems like he’s Theo Epstein’s baby – and enough to thwart off trying to sign Prince.
not Rizzo himself but their is laundry list of 1B/DH players on the trading block/FA every year
if Todd and Giambi retired before this offseason Carlos Pena, Casey Kotchman, or Derrek Lee would all be low cost options. On the trading block Rizzo, Alonso, Montero all got traded, you could also argue that Seth Smith or Carlos Quentin could likely make that move.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
completely agree
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 7:52 AM MST up reply actions
my follow up dream, would be BJ Upton and Wade Davis coming back.
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 7:57 AM MST up reply actions
is that similair to an ingrown hair?
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 8:05 AM MST up reply actions
Feels like it every time you see a bloop triple into the corner
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he of 4/5 full MLB seasons over 4 WAR
gosh that would be awful
arenado: it's Rockie for future
...
Which he earned all of that against the Rockies.
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by CentralCaliRox on Jan 18, 2012 1:16 PM MST up reply actions
you're thinking of the wrong upton
arenado: it's Rockie for future
it was for Matt Moore though so its ok
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 8:03 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
I predict B.J.'s going to have a great "contract year"
for the Rays, then drop back down to the .220’s with lots of K’s for whoever overpays him on a longterm contract in the off-season. The next Jayson Werth.
2012 has to be a better year. Doesn't it?
by maris61 on Jan 18, 2012 8:04 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Werth was an overpay
but he demonstrated pretty good on base skills and power, while playing above average defense, for the four years preceding his contract. His age made him a risk to regress (and a stupid contract), but unlike Upton he has a recent track history of success.
Yeah what deacs said
From 2008-2010, Werth was significantly better than Upton’s ever been. That contract is going to kill the Nats, but it was a better idea at the time than the $100 MM-ish deal Upton might get will be to that unlucky team.
Wait, what's his real name? We should make a joke out of that.
by BrandonHawpe on Jan 18, 2012 11:14 AM MST up reply actions
who is going to pay BJ Upton 100 mil?
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If he puts up a great 2012
something like his 2007 numbers (.300/.383/.508) with 40 steals, plenty of stupid teams will line up for that. Something like 6/$100 MM would happen I bet.
Wait, what's his real name? We should make a joke out of that.
by BrandonHawpe on Jan 18, 2012 11:47 AM MST up reply actions
he'll get something close to the bay contract,
or our offer to holliday before the trade
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I think “Wealthy Doctor” and “Ditch Beast” have some staying power as nicknames.
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Beer Car Award will be the ace of our staff some day
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 8:28 AM MST up reply actions
Rockies Nation turns it lonely eyes to you.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 18, 2012 8:32 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
The pitcher I have my eye on is Dan Houston.
Overpowered A+ batters and pitched mostly well in AA. I suppose he will be back in AA again this year. Asheville will have a killer AA rotation.
I wouldn’t say Houston overpowers people, but he has a great shot at becoming Alan Johnson 2.0
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Considering he was almost the centerpiece
of a trade for the best pitcher in the game, I’d say those are lofty goals.
surprising K rates, considering I think I could probably hit his stuff.
If his sinker was on, he was pretty dominant. Otherwise, it was BP all the way.
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so you're saying he has no chance to magically become an ace?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 8:44 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
I was thinking...
Ace could be his title… like Mr. or Dr. Then Voila Nil is… there, nothing. Hopefully he matches that.
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I’m scared.
What the hell you lookin' at?
scared of how good we might be? me too
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 8:59 AM MST up reply actions
Don't worry.
I’ve checked under your bed and in your closet and Tim Lincecum is nowhere to be found.
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Get well soon Juan.
I heard he might be available.
we should trade for him.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 18, 2012 9:11 AM MST up reply actions
I hear that the Giants will take 2 oz of kind budz for him.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 18, 2012 9:19 AM MST up reply actions
I just hope he doesn't discover the Mile High Mystery Spot.
If we sign him of course. If he stays with the Giants, I’ll drive him there on his next visit.
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Get well soon Juan.
I thought it was full of 3rd basemen.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 18, 2012 9:29 AM MST up reply actions
Even a better reason to put Tim in there.
I heard he hates Infielders.
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In the Myster Van?
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by DAWNMARIE01 on Jan 18, 2012 10:22 AM MST up reply actions
Dang it. I meant
You’ll drive him there in The Mystery Machine.
/joke ruined
The off-season sucks.
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by DAWNMARIE01 on Jan 18, 2012 10:23 AM MST up reply actions
oh, don't you screw up my bidding for that.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 18, 2012 9:19 AM MST up reply actions
eh, 2012 is either going to net us some fun, surprising baseball.
or a really cool draft pick.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 18, 2012 9:20 AM MST up reply actions
ooo I hope it nets us Harper. that’d be dope.
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Speaking of dope
I hear that we could sign Tim Lincecum
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Get well soon Juan.
As crazy as it is, I feel better about Rockies pitching staff this year than last.
I think the position players are no worse than last year.
Depth I could see
Actual production…………..
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 10:23 AM MST up reply actions
Considering what we got I feel better about 2012's production than I do about 2011
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Going into season with Cook, Paulino, Rogers, and an injured Ubaldo?
Yes JDLR and Chacin was there and JDLR is injured this year. I take the Rockies prospects over Cook and the battle for the #5 starter this year has better option than Paulino/Rogers. Ubaldo was an ace but in retrospect something went wrong with him.
I was assuming you were referring to this time last year
but even then, Rogers and Cook were the same rotation slot. It was Cook’s spot, and Rogers was the #6 starter who filled in due to injury. We didn’t know of a Ubaldo injury being near DL worthy until mid-April. And Paulino was in the pen from the getgo in the long man role.
Who is the long man now? Rogers?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 10:36 AM MST up reply actions
That's my thought.
Chacin
Hammel
Nicasio
Pomeranz
Slowey
Rogers
Brothers
Betancourt
Lindstrom
Belisle
Reynolds
Escalona
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 18, 2012 10:43 AM MST up reply actions
I think that that's a waste of their talents.
Long relief is a job for guys on their last legs, not potential starters.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 18, 2012 10:54 AM MST up reply actions
Good Point
Last year when they brought up Matt Reynolds, he was used in long relief. Usually when you need long relief, you are losing and that’ s a good time bring on someone who is needing to revive their career or to bring along a bullpen guy along slowly. They don’t have the pressure of blowing a lead or losing a game.
And this is the point that I have is that there are options. You have Mortenson/ Rogers on their last chances or maybe you bring up Bettis or Friedrich or anyone else you want to convert to bullpen.
You forgot Roenicke
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by Roxman4ever on Jan 18, 2012 12:46 PM MST up reply actions
Nope.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 18, 2012 2:08 PM MST up reply actions
and yes, you did
unless you don’t think he’ll make the team?
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That's the point
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 2:13 PM MST up reply actions
i think roenicke would be a better option than either rogers or escalona for 2012
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by papality on Jan 18, 2012 2:14 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REC’D. Escalona wouldn’t be bad. Rogers can go away
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Too early to tell.
Yes, there’s a reason he wasn’t a victim of the roster crunch. The Rockies intend for him to try and earn a spot, but he won’t be handed one.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jan 18, 2012 2:16 PM MST up reply actions
i just think it's interesting for the PR community,
that has trashed rogers for so long, to hand him a bullpen role when there’s better pieces available (not trying to single petro out here)
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The bullpen has two spots open right now.
Both Rogers and Roenicke could be in that pen. They haven’t really tried Rogers in a pen role long-term, only for short stints when there was nothing else to do with him, and we don’t have a typical long reliever right now slotted in already. Roenicke or Escalona could, in theory, be stretched into those roles but having Rogers or Mortensen there wouldn’t be a surprise.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jan 18, 2012 2:19 PM MST up reply actions
Rogers is a long man
who can also spot start. We don;t have other relievers like that except Mortenson. The only other option is to waste one of our good new arms there. I’d rather not do that.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 18, 2012 2:20 PM MST up reply actions
I chose Escalona over Roenicke, but it could just as easily be Roenicke. I like Escalona though.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 18, 2012 2:21 PM MST up reply actions
In the bullpen?
Pft. No way.
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by CentralCaliRox on Jan 18, 2012 4:45 PM MST up reply actions
hey, that's my line
arenado: it's Rockie for future
I wanted to be first again.
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I see and I agree same time last year I was confident in the Rockies.
Last year Colorado seamed stable but the year seemed to prove that you never know how it plays out. A Cy Young candidate loses 5 mph on his pitches and becomes hittable and a dark-horse comes around and becomes a stud only to get a freak injury. That’s why I guess I feel good about this situation because in all likelihood someone we’re counting on is going to have a bad year or get injured but someone we aren’t will turn out to be good.
Okay, it's not so crazy after all
@BizballMaury
Cust deal with the Astros is $600,000 and includes a club option for the 2013 season.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 10:26 AM MST reply actions
Cust makes sense for them in 2013...2012 not so much
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It's cheap as dirt and LF in Houston is extremely small
So he’ll get at most 70 starts in big outfields. If he hits well, they can make him their DH. If not, he can be gone and they can look elsewhere
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 10:32 AM MST up reply actions
Kind of their own personal mini Giambino
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Carlos Lee survived in LF in Houston
I think that means virtually anybody can…
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by Junction Rox on Jan 18, 2012 10:49 AM MST up reply actions
According to UZR in 2011 Carlos Lee was an elite LF while Cargo was slightly below average
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Carlos Lee was a 18.1 UZR/150 LF last year Carlos Gonzalez was a -8.5 LF last year
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That is.......... interesting.
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by Junction Rox on Jan 18, 2012 11:04 AM MST up reply actions
But just remember
if you go to FanGraphs and point out how much that hurts the legitimacy of WAR, a few people will say “We know, we know…” and the other 95% of them will tell you you know nothing about baseball.
Wait, what's his real name? We should make a joke out of that.
by BrandonHawpe on Jan 18, 2012 11:19 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
they argue that you need a 3 year average
I would argue that any radar gun that insisted that a Pinto was faster than a Buggatti Veyron is systematically flawed
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by TomCat009 on Jan 18, 2012 11:32 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly
Which is why I think UZR is totally unreliable, yet you’ll see a lot of people cite UZR ratings as if they were gospel.
2012 has to be a better year. Doesn't it?
I always check their Aggregate Defensive Ratings on Fangraphs
For 2009 and 2010 in LF, CarGo is a net +8, Carlos Lee a net -26.
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Sure, that helps lessen the likelihood that it paints a horrendously inaccurate picture
But it’s still fatally flawed if it spits out a number like that Cargo/Lee 2011 comparison. We might never have a great, reliable, all-encompassing defensive statistic. It’s like offensive line play in football and defensive ability in basketball. It’s just so tough to quantify many aspects of it.
Wait, what's his real name? We should make a joke out of that.
by BrandonHawpe on Jan 18, 2012 12:46 PM MST up reply actions
But then they go and base WAR off of single season UZR. I like WAR, but the people who make snap judgements based off it are off base. It’s how players with fluky defensive years like Andres Torres can get way over rated.
It wasn't just UZR that made Torres look good
His wRC+ was the 4th best among all MLB CF, behind Josh Hamilton, Carlos Gonzalez and Colby Rasmus. Your premise is fair, but Torres wasn’t a UZR darling only
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 2:45 PM MST up reply actions
It's also non-guaranteed.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jan 18, 2012 12:31 PM MST up reply actions
that's actually pretty good
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Why is it that spring training is about to start and there’s still no humidor in Colorado Springs, nor news articles appearing about the plans to get one installed before April? Dick Monfort said last year there’d be one if he had to pay for it himself.
Amassing a bunch of young (and a few old) arms makes a bunch of sense for this team. Denying them AAA experience or blowing them up makes none whatsoever.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 18, 2012 10:46 AM MST up reply actions
What is this logic thing you're using ...
… is it the new math?
by Traindogger on Jan 18, 2012 10:53 AM MST up reply actions
Magic?
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Jan 18, 2012 12:07 PM MST up reply actions
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These things take time to get done (approvals and so forth). I’d think there’d be some buzz about it somewhere already if it’s really going to get done in less than 90 days.
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by RoarFrom112 on Jan 18, 2012 12:07 PM MST up reply actions
Buzz from whom?
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 18, 2012 2:09 PM MST up reply actions
Alex White not making the rotation just doesn't make sense
We have unquestioned depth now, and I wouldn’t want to see a guy like Slowey take starts away from him when a healthy White is likely just as good. I said this yesterday, but leaving Pomeranz is AA/AAA while Outman starts is probably for the best; I’d rather limit Pomeranz’s innings early then have Outman switch to the bullpen when De la Rosa comes back, effectively switching Outman and Hammel for Pomeranz and De la Rosa around mid June. If we could trade Hammel then Slowey or Moscoso make sense as a Pomeranz/De la Rosa placeholder, though I think it makes more sense to flip Moscoso for something useful while his value is still high.
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I wouldn't read too much into Andrew's expected rotation
There are literally a million combinations that are possible out of spring training.
Hey I didn't write this morning
I was at a health safety and sexual harrassment meeting while Jeff was writing this
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 11:28 AM MST up reply actions
Oh dear, what did you do? Are you going to be punished? Like a naughty boy? A very, very naughty boy...
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by Junction Rox on Jan 18, 2012 11:39 AM MST up reply actions
reminds me of a sexual harassment meeting video a girl in college showed as part of her presentation on why sexual harassment is bad. the girl is not from America, the video looked like a real educational video, turns out it was a spoof, and the whole class was dying by the end of it. the professor wasn’t that bright either and I wasn’t sure if he understood it either until the class was laughing/cryinglaughing
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 12:28 PM MST up reply actions
I watched a sexual harassment video at work once. The broad that was in it really needed to loosen up.
Jokes.
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by Franchise26 on Jan 18, 2012 12:35 PM MST up reply actions
Also, this is the best sexual harassment video.
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by Franchise26 on Jan 18, 2012 12:36 PM MST up reply actions
I doubt it
Jeff probably wrote this last night (or two nights ago knowing him)
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I understand Slowey was bad last year
But he’s only a season removed from being half-decent. White has never demonstrated value at the MLB level, I think it’s a huge stretch to say “White is likely just as good.” That’s not to say White shouldn’t just start anyways since we’re not making the playoffs, but still, walking 4 guys per 9 while giving up a lot of hits is not going to get it done. If the team’s goal was to just to win in 2012 I think Tracy would be crazy to start White over Slowey unless something major develops during ST.
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by BrandonHawpe on Jan 18, 2012 11:24 AM MST up reply actions
Except we rushed him back from injury
The Indians were not planning to give him another start in the year before White was traded to us. We haven’t seen the real White yet.
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And I would rather Slowey make the rotation over Hammel IMO
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Think you're still stretching big time
to use the word “likely”
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by BrandonHawpe on Jan 18, 2012 12:42 PM MST up reply actions
I wouldn’t want to see a guy like Slowey take starts away from him when a healthy White is likely just as good.
We don’t know this at all. We have four new guys now who have shown that, with varied levels of success, they can pitch in the major leagues. White has yet to demonstrate this.
We have unquestioned depth now,
This is why you don’t put White in the rotation. You don’t let a possible stud pitcher who has not proven his readiness get destroyed in the majors. That’s when you end up with a Tyler Chatwood situation, but worse. You make sure that those guys are ready for the next step. This is what the depth allows us to do.
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But are we realy expecting to compete next year?
If there was a risk that 2 wins would be the difference between a playoff berth and sitting home, then your argument makes perfect sense, go with the proven guy, but we’re rebuilding the rotation here, aiming for 2013. It’s not like White was rushed or anything, he’s had a good amount of time in AA and beyond, proving himself and his potential throughout the minors. If he’s fully healthy, let him prove himself in the rotation from the start, because I don’t think sitting in Colorado Springs is going to do anything for him. Evaluating a pitcher’s MLB ability on 9 starts does absolutely nothing positive for the club. Ian Kennedy is a perfect example of that.
Your 2012 Colorado Rockies:freshly exorcised from Ty Wigginton
You don't evaluate a pitcher's ability after 9 late season starts,
especially in a year interrupted by injury.
But nor should you put a pitcher into the early season rotation based solely on draft choice pedigree and some good numbers at AA and below.
White needs to have an outstanding ST to make the rotation, showing that he’s really much better than he looked in late 2011. That’s called “competing for a job”, and he deserves the chance to do so, but if he’s not better in ST than at least 12 of his competitors, he shouldn’t get a spot based on reputation & what we traded for him.
2012 has to be a better year. Doesn't it?
The Rockies clearly see him as the future, along with Pomeranz, Nicasio, Chacin, Chatwood
I see the upside in the competition making White perform better, but my argument is that White should have the inside track to one of the rotation spots. If White is fully healthy, he’s not going to have a bad Spring Training. Everything in his past performance before the injury indicates that he has the command and stuff to be successful at the major league level. Besides, the Rockies have a history of letting their prospects compete at the major league level. Unless Dan O’Dowd seriously thinks the West is winnable without some major breaks for the Rockies, then he’s going to let the young guys play, and use the depth he acquired as a leash on White, Nicasio, and eventually Pomeranz to let them know their spots aren’t guaranteed.
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Based on this alone, we should keep him in the minors for a few months.
Besides, the Rockies have a history of letting their prospects compete at the major league level.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 18, 2012 2:12 PM MST up reply actions
use the depth he acquired as a leash on White, Nicasio, and eventually Pomeranz to let them know their spots aren’t guaranteed.
What you are saying is:
1) Put guys in a position where they are more likely to fail.
2) Get a bunch of guys who can replace them when they do fail.
3) Yank them when they fail and put them where they should have been to start the season with in the first place.
4) Move one of the guys into their place who have been pitching against AAA hitters all year.
This does not seem like a great recipe for player development.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 18, 2012 2:14 PM MST up reply actions
Except your just plain expecting White to fail
If you are considering White to be rushed, expecting Pomeranz to be in the rotation at all next year would be criminal. White is every bit as ready as Pomeranz, if not more advanced than Pomeranz, who is considered to to be MLB ready. You’re making the mistake that assuming 2011 MLB White is how White is going to pitch in the bigs next year. If you don’t think White is a legitimate MLB talent is one thing (which isn’t true because you called him a potential stud before), but he has nothing left in the minors to prove. He has had a full offseason to prepare and Spring Training to get his mechanics back in order that got screwed up because of the injury in the first place. What should determine White’s placement in the rotation is if he’s proven the former finger injury isn’t affecting his mechanics anymore. If it is, then yeah, he should be in AAA to get his mechanics back, but as of right now White should be given the inside track to a rotation spot every bit as much as Nicasio is right now.
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ugh, you're**
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I actually agree with you on Pomeranz.
I’d like him to start in the minors too. The FO isn’t going to do that though.
You’re making the mistake that assuming 2011 MLB White is how White is going to pitch in the bigs next year.
No. I’m not. I’ve said nothing like that.
I see a 23 year-old pitcher with 51.1 IP in the majors and very little time at AAA and I wonder what the rush is. You are the one who is setting expectations on him that don’t really match up with his performance. He has 74.3 IP above AA. I think he could use a bit more seasoning, especially when we have seven pitchers with more MLB time than he has waiting for a rotation spot.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 18, 2012 2:52 PM MST up reply actions
Okay, your argument makes so much more sense now
I still think White should still have the inside track to a rotation spot unless Spring Training shows otherwise that something’s wrong. I saw a pitcher who’s finger injury affected his mechanics and command in his 50 innings in the MLB, who before the injury convinced a team he was MLB ready until he was injured. The fact that the Indians promoted him to the MLB but then decided he shouldn’t start for the rest of the year, but work in the bullpen spoke volumes to me; they felt he needed the MLB experience and deserved to be in the MLB but still wanted to be cautious with the injury. With a clean slate in 2012, I’m expecting to see a different Alex White than we saw last year.
I now see your position as very clear, that you’re more conservative in promoting younger players than I am. Nothing wrong with that, and with the success the Rays have had with being conservative, I could see how that comes to be.
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My rotation prediction
1. Chacin
2. As-yet-unsigned Veteran
3. Hammel
4. Slowey
5. White
Chatwood, Nicasio, Moscoso, Outman, Mortensen in AAA/bullpen
Pomeranz, Bettis, Friedrich, Cabrera, Scahill in AA
Rogers (and 1 or 2 of the above) traded
Jamie Moyer to a farm to start a new life where he’ll be happy.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 18, 2012 11:28 AM MST up reply actions
What would you do with these pitches.
Guessing that 3 starting pitchers move up from short season to Asheville giving 5 starting position in Modesto and 2 in Asheville.
Cory Riorden
Joey Williamson
Joe Gardner
Dan Houston
Josh Sullivan
Parker Frazier
Albert Campos
Nick Schmidt
Albert Campos
Tyler Matzek
Josh Mueller
Nick Schnaittman
Josh Slaats
Peter Tago
According to Rockiesroster these are the other starters in the organization.
I'm still not sure how the Rockies FO view the Springs, even if a humidor is to be installed this offseason
Assuming they still see it as a AAAA hold, I’d do something like this:
chance to win bullpen spot out of ST: Gardner
CSprings: Riordan/Williamson/Houston
Tulsa: Frazier/Gardner (to start, if he doesn’t win a BP spot)/Schmidt (as a reliever)
Modesto: Matzek/Schnaitmann (he did perform pretty well after being sent down to Asheville…)/Mueller/Slaats
Asheville: Campos/Tago
I agree almost completely
but campos and slaats deserve the bump to Modesto. mueller maybe too. I haven’t paid much attention to him
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 1:31 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
I like Campos, and he easily has the most upside of those three
But he had a pretty rough year at Asheville. I think a few more starts there would do him good. Mueller had a pretty bad year as well.
I wouldn’t have a problem with Slaats getting the promotion though.
Campos was quite hittable last year, but his excellent walk and home run numbers were still present.
He might not be promoted right away, but if not, it’ll be due to losing half the year to injury, not his performance.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jan 18, 2012 1:40 PM MST up reply actions
The H/9 rate was my main concern, though it did look like he was badly burned by BABIP
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Modesto a much tougher place to pitch than Asheville in terms of park factors? I’d like to give a young Campos some confidence after what must have been a really frustrating year following domination of Rookie ball.
Modesto is easier, but much of the Cal League is really hitter friendly.
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8.24 ERA at home, .457 BABIP
3.44 ERA on road, .328 BABIP.
He was really done in by McCormick Field. I wouldn’t throw a fit if he started in Asheville, but I believe he’d be just fine in Modesto.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 2:00 PM MST up reply actions
Oh good to know. I guess Modesto wouldn't be so bad for him after all
Also, where do you find home/away splits for the low minors?
(Sorry for the delay in response btw…I went to class…)
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 6:41 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
don't forget Tyler Anderson
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 1:32 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Tyler Anderson is on the Unassinged Players page on RR which probably explains why he was missed there.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jan 18, 2012 1:34 PM MST up reply actions
The Rockies better assign him before Petro freaks out and cuts him...
oh, wrong league.
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by Charlie77 on Jan 18, 2012 4:39 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 18, 2012 5:22 PM MST up reply actions
We have little crowdings like this every year at this point.
Some of these players will be promoted, some will repeat their levels, some will be converted to the bullpen and some will be released.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jan 18, 2012 1:33 PM MST up reply actions
Thanks
It seems that there is more crowding than usual especial between AA and the Majors. There seems to be almost a necessity for some trades to be made. My main reason for posting this is to see where PR sees the development of the organization as a whole. I figure Riorden is going to be released as he seems to digress last year. Tago will probably repeat. I realised I left Anderson off as soon as I posted.
Here’s a question for you Greg,
I noticed that the Rockies haven’t signed any MiFA SPs . Is that because they have traded for so many or are many MiFA signed closer to ST?
Specifically between AA and the Majors, there will be more crowding, yes.
Overall in the organization, we have about the same amount of starting pitchers I would expect, just a lot more of them in contention for a spot than normal. It will be interesting to see if the organization actually uses some of those that don’t make the team as trade chips or oif they try to stash away as many as possible.
Riordan may be released but he’s also a candidate for the “throwaway” AAA rotation, especially now that Greg Reynolds is gone. Tago I expect to repeat, yes. Anderson probably goes to Modesto.
That’s a great observation about the lack of free agent starting pitchers, and I would assume that it likely is very much related. The Rockies did re-sign Josh Sullivan before he became a MiLB free agent, Nick Schmidt was acquired in the Huston Street deal and both Zach Simons and Carlos Torres do have starting experience, but Jamie Moyer, if he accepts the contract invite, would be the first true MiLB starting pitching signing so far.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jan 18, 2012 1:59 PM MST up reply actions
I think trade chips...
We have a ton of fringe MLB quality arms in a year where everyone needs pitching, and the Smith deal freed up more cap space.
It’s hard to believe we were making that deal just to help cover the expense of Cuddyer.
The eternal optimist in me says that we’re not done trying to fill the hole at 2b (Renck tweeted that he didn’t think we were done this off-season).
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Ain’t no party like a MiLB pitcher party!
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 18, 2012 2:15 PM MST up reply actions
I'm excited to see Darvish get signed soon.
Should help loosen up the stagnated market, as the Rangers are the last team with significant money to spend. I do have a sneaking suspicion that the Rockies will make a run for Oswalt or Jackson later this week. I just can’t see them with this low of a budget.
I really thought they were bluffing on Darvish this year and were gonna sign Prince
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 12:32 PM MST up reply actions
With all of the talk about a trade for a 2B...
does anybody think that a trade with the Jays for Kelly Johnson is in the cards? I was searching through teams last night on MLB the Show (as I was keeping the roster up to date), and he was the only 2B that I could come up with making any sense. Maybe it’s the fantasy baseball/video gamer I am that thinks this way, but was wondering if anyone agrees with this.
Do the Jays have a second baseman they can start if Johnson is traded?
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They have that Hecheverria guy they picked up a few seasons ago...
Or Escobar could move over to allow Heche… to take over short.
adeiny hechevarria, the cuban?
he’s nowhere near MLB-ready, though his glove is reportedly otherworldly
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compared to how terrible he was everywhere before,
it’s tough to think of those as anything but PCL numbers
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NO
WE MUST WORRY ABOUT ALL PROSPECTS
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I think given Herrera, Young, Nelson, and most importantly now, LeMahiue (sp?), I doubt the FO really pursues a 2b until something goes wrong with these 4.
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Something already has gone wrong
with 3 of them. Although I don’t really like the idea of trading for Johnson.
Wait, what's his real name? We should make a joke out of that.
by BrandonHawpe on Jan 18, 2012 12:41 PM MST up reply actions
They really aren't inspiring options
LeMahieu only OPS’d .694 in the PCL, so he might need some more time. It’s already been established Herrera can’t hit enough, that the FO doesn’t have the most confidence in Young as a second baseman, and I think the organization likes Nelson in a utility role. It wouldn’t be horrible if Nelson or LeMahieu started (though I think DJ has a lower floor than people think), Young isn’t the best fit for the club now and Herrera shouldn’t be used except in a Quintanilla role (though he is better than Q). A one year solution like an Izturis or Kelly Johnson would be a pretty good move if they didn’t cost much in the way of prospects.
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DJ is a high contact guy, which the org seems to be shifting towards a bit and his defense has improved, or so I’ve read. His minor league numebers definitely aren’t too sexy but there’s a chance he could grow at the ML level, hit for a good average and play solid defense.
fwiw, ZIPS projects him to hit .300 next season – albeit with low obp and slg numbers…
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I would like to see Young starting.
and hitting in the #2 hole. I think with his new stance he’s capable of a .350 OBP and 50+ SBs given 400+ ABs
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not with that 6 year $100+mil contract
oh. mixed up with ootp again
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 1:14 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
you slay me
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Chatwood did burn an option last year so he's only got two.
Everything else looks pretty good. Excellent breakdown/
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This is how you take steroids.
Pay attention folks.
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by Roxman4ever on Jan 18, 2012 12:48 PM MST up reply actions
too soon
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Oh well, thought I would be the first to chime in.
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by Roxman4ever on Jan 18, 2012 12:52 PM MST up reply actions
He's maintained that the positive test
was a highly unusual circumstance and that he’s innocent. Plus, what does it really matter if he used steroids or testosterone supplements or whatever? This is a great take on PEDs:
I mean, you’d think all an ordinary player would have to do is take steroids to hit 70 home runs or bat .350. But I think McGwire was telling the truth — he took steroids to hold back distress, to make him physically able to play the game. Steroids don’t make a player good. Think of the hundreds, even thousands of players who have been in and out of the major leagues and who may have dabbled in steroids and think how few have hit 50, let alone 60 or 70 homers. Sure, every two-bit hitter in the lineup seems able to drive the ball over the outfield fences, but that has as much to do with the dimensions of the fields and the dimensions of the players, even without steroids. As mentioned earlier in this interview one of the great changes in the game over the decades has been the increasing size of the players. They’re enormous compared to the players of 80 years ago and more than enormous compared to those of 120 years ago.
Unlike other suspected and known PED users
the evidence against him isn’t public, and there’s no Canseco or McNamee or Conte to support the allegations. If it turns out his defense is a JC Romero-type excuse, then egg on my face.
This only matters if you think PEDs are actually an ethical or moral problem for the sport, which they’re not.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 18, 2012 2:16 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I can't rec this hard enough.
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The rules say that he can't.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 18, 2012 2:17 PM MST up reply actions
OT: Your wonderful quarterback.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-tebowinjured
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I still don't get the anger that is directed at that kid in those comments sections.
No quarterback was going to save the Broncos last week. Rookie QBs make mistakes and struggle to adjust to the speed of the NFL, considering that the Broncos have the youngest OL in the NFL, the Youngest WR corp in the NFL, no TE recieving threat, and one banged up injury prone retread at RB the fact that this team didn’t challenge Indy in the futility race.
The Defense has some nice pieces in Dumervil and Miller, and Champ is a first ballot HOF but once BDawk went down Champ was the only DB who can cover or tackle. 32 yo CBs and no up the middle pass rush means this team had to fight tooth and nail to get to .500.
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by TomCat009 on Jan 18, 2012 1:02 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I didnt read the comments.
I jsut saw that he played injured. That is all I needed to read.
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a seperated sternum sounds pretty painful
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Now, we have to contend with Kung Fu Panda for 3 more years
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and I "really" lvoe how they put up the video where he hit for the cycle against us.
What a bunch of enter your expletives here.
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that just bought out his arbitration years, he wasn't going anywhere anyways
he’s still going to be a free agent in 2014
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so would anyone else
he wasn’t a free agent though. he was under team control for three more years. he is essentially where dex is in his career.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 1:12 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
I gave him 4 years, $22m in OOTP
Pleasingly similar!
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you got a better deal
but the ootp panda is probably worse than the real panda due to his down 2010
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 19, 2012 8:44 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
you mean as our eventual replacement for todd
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meh we were going to have to anyway
at least they didn’t lock him up Tampa style
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30 YEARS $6
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by papality on Jan 18, 2012 1:19 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Deal of the century
Rec’d
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we should trade seth smith
straight up for Youk.
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2 days late. A dollar short?
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what do you mean?
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Seth is gone.
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What do you mean by gone?
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(can't tell if actually asking, or has some weird innuendo angle...)
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smith was traded to the athletics
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What do you mean by traded?
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please stop
you’re really confusing me and i’m very tired
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Think of it like Brad Hawpe
being waivered…and NEVER EVER COMING BACK
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Wait..you mean Hawpe
doesn’t play for us anymore?
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by Junction Rox on Jan 18, 2012 1:55 PM MST up reply actions
a pronoun often used interrogatively as a request for specific information
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 2:10 PM MST up reply actions
WAT?
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Flock of seagulls.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jan 18, 2012 2:19 PM MST up reply actions
What do you mean by English?
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That's what I thought you meant
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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You meant I thought what's that
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 2:32 PM MST up reply actions
Thought meant I thought what's thought?
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WAT?
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Cat?
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by Greg Stanwood on Jan 18, 2012 2:35 PM MST up reply actions
Log?
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by Greg Stanwood on Jan 18, 2012 2:36 PM MST up reply actions
Jog?
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Jan 18, 2012 2:37 PM MST up reply actions
Blog?
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Moose?
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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I almost said Moose randomly earlier in the conversation.
Mysterious.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jan 18, 2012 2:49 PM MST up reply actions
Smog.
cough
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by Greg Stanwood on Jan 18, 2012 2:37 PM MST up reply actions
Who?
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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You!
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by Greg Stanwood on Jan 18, 2012 2:38 PM MST up reply actions
Why?
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I need a glass of water first!
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Jan 18, 2012 2:40 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
This is easily my favorite thing ever to exist
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 2:46 PM MST up reply actions
one glass and a potty then go
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 2:45 PM MST up reply actions
what do you mean by mean?
arenado: it's Rockie for future
he's chillin with coco crisp
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That is a very personal question
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by Junction Rox on Jan 18, 2012 1:55 PM MST up reply actions
Even though the Tigers have Avila. Could we trade Hernandez for someone they have.
Wonder if they have a 2nd baseman they would trade
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Yo we just signed Hernandez.
@DylanZable
by CentralCaliRox on Jan 18, 2012 1:21 PM MST up reply actions
and?
Try and flip him for someone.
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and have only rosario and pacheco?
not a chance
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Heh. Wil Nieves. Giggle.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jan 18, 2012 2:20 PM MST up reply actions
Not going to argue this.
But it is not going to happen.
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by CentralCaliRox on Jan 18, 2012 1:22 PM MST up reply actions
you can't trade a free agent you just signed until i believe june 1st
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they do not
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Jacob Turner
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 1:30 PM MST up reply actions
mlb.com just said that Smith was a 4th OF.
What?
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4th OF for the Rockies. That is what they said.
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he would have been this year
arenado: it's Rockie for future
this past year
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well we had Cargo and Dex and Cuddyer
so Smith would have been a 4th OFer
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2011. That year
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What do you mean by Maria?
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the devil's chord
you’re such a flat fifth
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 1:28 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Is that a knock
on the size of my bosoms?
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he certainly would have been with this roster
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 1:27 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
and the MLB network said he would hit 3rd for the A’s….haha
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 1:30 PM MST up reply actions
and that he would hit well in Oakland
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his value doesn't like in the home run,
so it’s certainly possible
arenado: it's Rockie for future
doesn't lie*
arenado: it's Rockie for future
I have a hard time laughing at the A's
They won 74 games last year and 81 the year before. In two years, that’s only one fewer win than the Rockies.
by Northsider1964 on Jan 18, 2012 1:37 PM MST up reply actions
other than they traded away their really good young cost controlled pitching staff for a high school cost conrtrolled pitching staff
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 2:19 PM MST up reply actions
and in doing so upgraded their staff at 1/4 the cost
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Maybe he means after 2013, which is when Beane is banking on relevance anyway
‘Cause there’s no way Jarrod Parker/Brad Peacock and Tom Milone outperform Gio and Cahill this year.
i could see parker outperforming cahill this year
but the rest of it, no
arenado: it's Rockie for future
I would bet Milone outperforms Moscoso
also likely that bullpen piece from AZ does well
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I promise to scoff at them
just as soon as we actually post a better W-L record.
by Northsider1964 on Jan 18, 2012 2:47 PM MST up reply actions
Darvish Deadline Drawing ....nearer
i wish there was a D word i could use there….
arenado: it's Rockie for future
dnigh
The d is silent
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 2:04 PM MST up reply actions
what do you mean by silent?
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the d has been "taken care of"
Filling up your senses like a night in the forest since 1992.
by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 18, 2012 2:14 PM MST up reply actions
By getting rid of Wiggy?
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by Junction Rox on Jan 18, 2012 2:15 PM MST up reply actions
a cthulu-like creature, causing nothing but pain and suffering and whose existence is truly unexplainable by modern science
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Your supposed to post pictures of yourself
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 18, 2012 2:23 PM MST up reply actions
You're supposed to too.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 18, 2012 2:23 PM MST up reply actions
typo renders post ineffective
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Damn that's harsh.
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GOD THAT IS UGLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The Wiggintons are a great band.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jan 18, 2012 2:37 PM MST up reply actions
Your a Giant Hat wearing a hot dog
I can’t understand anything you say. All I see is “Delicious Meat”
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Get well soon Juan.
what did I hear a 6 year deal or something?
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 2:19 PM MST up reply actions
5-6 yes
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 2:30 PM MST up reply actions
Grant actually did a good job making the Giants' future seem....potentially good
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2012/1/18/2716679/the-future-of-the-giants-payroll
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 2:30 PM MST reply actions
I'm not in favor of this.
Can they sign more Aaron Rowand-style contracts and lose all of their good players to free agency instead?
dw, we’re already in the process of trading Ramon Hernandez for Buster Posey.
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we should then be able to trade Posey for a catcher, probably Arencibia would be my guess.
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We'll still somehow wind up with Miguel Olivo when the dust settles.
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by Greg Stanwood on Jan 18, 2012 2:43 PM MST up reply actions
Of course we will
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 2:47 PM MST up reply actions
Great article.... feels like an episode of the Bachelorette
Also, thank G-d Nicasio’s broken neck isn’t a ‘fatal flaw.’ More like a ‘near fatal flaw’ (so excited for the first time he takes the mound!!!).
by purplerowtroller on Jan 18, 2012 2:48 PM MST reply actions
Is that comparison supposed to be a compliment?
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it is what it is.
If Street were still here, we’d already no the winner.
by purplerowtroller on Jan 18, 2012 2:50 PM MST up reply actions
know...
that’s why I don’t write the articles
by purplerowtroller on Jan 18, 2012 2:51 PM MST up reply actions
6 years 60 mil for Yu
bonuses can add $10 mil
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if it wasn’t for the obscene posting fee, I’d really like that deal.
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I don’t get it either. $110 million+ for an Unknown commodity. When you could have given Prince a 5 year deal and had a for sure known commodity? I don’t get that. They must have had him come pitch to some MLB hitters when he came over. Otherwise I really don’t trust my scouts with that kind of money
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 3:06 PM MST up reply actions
I mean, if the team somehow has 50 mill to eat (which they may with a new tv deal), all the dude has to do is post 2 WAR seasons to ‘earn’ the contract. Given truly how nasty he is, I can see him easily beating that. The risk of just flaming out either in the Dice-K or even Nomo mold is high I guess…
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the 50 mil is still money they are spending
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 19, 2012 7:35 AM MST up reply actions
they'll give prince that deal anyway
arenado: it's Rockie for future
they will recoup that posting fee in selling the tv rights to Japan
ESPN is paying 200 million a year for the next ten years for MNF, I’ll bet the Rangers make 50+ million out of international markets over the next 6. The kid is half Iranian too so there is another potential fanbasem, if they can make their posting fee back they got a steal.
Sure the kid may be Daisuke, but he is taller, more athletic, younger and maybe he is their Ichiro to the Mets Kazuo.
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The US has too long ignored the power of the Iranian Rial
Every kid in baseball-crazy Tehran is going to be wearing a Yu Darvish jersey.
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DOD should be jumping on that!
Next market inefficiency? Persia!
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How much does obscene posting cost?
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by Junction Rox on Jan 18, 2012 3:06 PM MST up reply actions
51 million dollars.
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Do we get to take that off of our national deficit?
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 3:08 PM MST up reply actions
51 mil is a drop in teh ocean compared to that Im afraid.
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We get to write it off on our national taxes as a ‘relief donation’ to Japan, I believe.
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maybe rip up a few I owe You’s
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 3:10 PM MST up reply actions
I owe Yu's?
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by Northsider1964 on Jan 18, 2012 3:34 PM MST up reply actions
How about just kind of smutty posting?
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by Junction Rox on Jan 18, 2012 3:20 PM MST up reply actions
This could be the biggest bust since...
Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
Bary Zito clap clap clapclapclap Bary Zito
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 3:06 PM MST up reply actions
Dice-K
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 18, 2012 3:08 PM MST up reply actions
Well, not Dice-K
Matsuzaka had a 2.95 ERA in eight seasons in Japan. He never once had an ERA under 2.00. He had an 8.7 K/9. Darvish just completed his fifth-straight season in which he had an ERA under 2.00 and a whip under 1.00. This year was his finest to date: 16-5, 1.48 ERA, 0.84 WHIP, 240 K, 32 BB, 5 HR in 207 IP (stats as of Sept. 27). Overall, Darvish managed a 1.996 ERA in his seven NPB years, with an 8.9 K/9. Demonstrably better.
Plus, Darvish is two years younger than Dice-K was when he came here. Dice-K was worth over 7 WAR in his first two years total before getting hurt.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 3:09 PM MST up reply actions
that’s kind of how I’m approaching it – I think it makes sense to assume his numbers won’t translate perfectly. But if you take 2 k per nine off the k rate and add like 2 bb per nine on his walk rate, he’s still very effective.
I wonder if the Rangers don’t mind being so ballsy since 1. they have Colby Lewis and 2. Said Mr. Lewis may have some insight on how to transition back, albeit said insight will be in English and open for misconstrual on the part of Mr. Darvish and Mr. Darvish’s translator.
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CJ Wilson would've cost them less
Plus they could’ve gotten Buerhle at the same time
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wilson was also a converted reliever with control issues
coming off 2 straight 200IP seasons for the first time in his career, at the age of 30
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Darvish is 5 years younger than Wilson
and Ogando is basically Wilson
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TY WIGGINTON
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I wonder if Boras and Fielder are worried now?
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 18, 2012 3:09 PM MST up reply actions
The Rangers could have signed two Michael Cuddyers for that price.
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The Rangers also could have signed 15 Ty Wiggingtons for that price...
#thepicturescometolife
by purplerowtroller on Jan 18, 2012 3:11 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh Lord,
The Horror….
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 18, 2012 3:12 PM MST up reply actions
think about how many different positions Tracy would be able to play 15 Wiggingtons at
and how many different spots in the line up.
by purplerowtroller on Jan 18, 2012 3:14 PM MST up reply actions
The 8 ball would explode.
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Are you saying the 8 ball isn't special enough to handle it?
I don’t believe you.
by purplerowtroller on Jan 18, 2012 3:24 PM MST up reply actions
Too much Wiggy to input.
Maybe Tracy would start having smoke coming out of his ears. Then, maybe something would burn off and his game management would change.
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Good matchupz last forever---Like marriage----
Tracy and his matchupzzzz with the Rockies aren’t very good. It won’t last forever.
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The good side to 15 Wiggys...
No matter what the 8 ball says, six wiggys would have to be on the bench.
by purplerowtroller on Jan 18, 2012 3:33 PM MST up reply actions
I like the Rangers
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 3:11 PM MST up reply actions
In terms of age
Pablo Sandoval > Me > Yu Darvish. We were all born the same week.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 3:18 PM MST reply actions
Are you hinting that you should also be getting a contract sometime today?
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 18, 2012 3:19 PM MST up reply actions
Well, I did get paid for PR yesterday and I get my real job paycheck tomorrow
I guess that’s good enough
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 3:28 PM MST up reply actions
you need a better agent.
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maybe that is the problem. I need a raise.
33 today, 32 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Plus, its 6 days until I go to Las Vegas to bowl in a professional tournament and 7 days until I start bowling
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I got paid today.
From my real job that is.
ihavenothingelse.
33 today, 32 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Plus, its 6 days until I go to Las Vegas to bowl in a professional tournament and 7 days until I start bowling
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You get paid?
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well, this has to be awkward...
arenado: it's Rockie for future
by papality on Jan 18, 2012 8:14 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
.....so do you
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 9:29 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Well, that's true, but I was told that I was the only one :P
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by Jeff Aberle on Jan 18, 2012 10:05 PM MST up reply actions
ATF for Rockies manager!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What do you mean by threes?
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What JR Smith does when his sister isn't choking people
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 3:33 PM MST up reply actions
What in the world is a JR smith?
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He's an Ian Stewart
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 3:35 PM MST up reply actions
So he is a lazy farmer?
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If the Rox were to sign Fielder. Would everyone be happy or upset?
Just curious
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Define upset.
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If it would relagate Helton to the bench?
31 today, 30 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Plus, iits only 3 days until I go to Las Vegas to bowl in a professional tournament and 4 days until I start bowling
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flags fly forever
arenado: it's Rockie for future
by papality on Jan 18, 2012 4:02 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Why are we talking about the Year 2022?
Some days, I feel like I’ve accidentally entered the Church of Tulowitzki on Baseball Easter.
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I dont know. Maybe Pujols will sign with us then.
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That's what Woodrow Wilson said...
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by Junction Rox on Jan 18, 2012 3:51 PM MST up reply actions
Are there other kinds????
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Upset.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 18, 2012 3:48 PM MST up reply actions
the specifics would be needed for true judgment
but i would lean towards happy
arenado: it's Rockie for future
OT: Question...
Would you rather swim in a kiddie pool filled with gravy, or a kiddie pool filled with tapioca pudding?
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Tapioca
I was going ask what what has gotten into you today…but then I figured I probably didn’t want to know.
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can I bring french fries or mashed potatoes?
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Yes.
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Give me the gravy
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Warm gravy or cold gravy?
And would either the gravy or the tapioca have a skin on it?
I must have this information before I can answer…
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by Junction Rox on Jan 18, 2012 3:48 PM MST up reply actions
Warm gravy.
Both have skin.
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I guess I'll go gravy swimming....
although the skin is grossing me out a little either way…
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by Junction Rox on Jan 18, 2012 3:51 PM MST up reply actions
OMG. You are making me hungry so much by saying that.
31 today, 30 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Plus, iits only 3 days until I go to Las Vegas to bowl in a professional tournament and 4 days until I start bowling
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Tapioca
The grease in the gravy would murder my skin.
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Get well soon Juan.
Forgive me, I've had my attention in other places
do the Rockies have an expected “ace” on their staff? Is it supposed to be Chacin? If so do you guys expect him to step up to that role this season?
Every time I’ve checked on the Rockies they are acquiring more back end pitchers so I’m a bit on the confused side.
Thanks in advance.
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he will be the opening day starter
they are expecting him to make a step up, but really, he’s more of a 2 best case.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 18, 2012 4:08 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Is it the Rockies plan to go in to this season
and hope that an ace emerges organically?
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by Jeffrey Morton on Jan 18, 2012 4:11 PM MST up reply actions
Dead on
Last year the Diamond Backs got a great season out of Ian Kennedy and won the divison. I would hesitate to call Kennedy an Ace
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
eerily similar, too
222 IP, 3.22 FIP, 3.44 SIERA
222 IP, 3.28 FIP, 3.78 SIERA
guess which is which
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Hudson I can agree with Kennedy I a bit less sold on long term
I like him and think he likely continues to be a strong 2(Chacin feels this way to me too) IK has two seasons under his belt now one 4.3 FIP one 3.2 FIP based on stuff I just feel he ends up around a 3.5-3.7 FIP pitcher which is extremely valuable but not a true ace.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
The Rockies are hoping that one of 4 young pitchers Chacin, White, Pomeranz or Bettis can become
a #1 with Pomeranz or Chacin being the most likely. They seem to be banking on a group of 4-5 pitchers being 2-3 starters(not a bad plan really) with Chacin, DeLaRosa, Hammel being the most likely to be in that order at the AS break with some combination of Nicasion, Pomeranz, White, Chatwood, Slowey, Rogers, Outman, Moscoso, Bettis, Friedrich, Houston, Scahill, Anderson and Gardner taking the final 2 rotation spots, as well 1-2 bullpen spots.
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Thanks for the info
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by Jeffrey Morton on Jan 18, 2012 4:11 PM MST up reply actions
If you are a Rockies fan you can be a bit confused/dismayed about the route this offseason
has taken. That said this is undeniably the most pitching talent we have ever accrued and 2013-18 looks great if even a few of these guys hit their ceiling.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I'd say more confused than dismayed
alot of playing on the card to come. Hope it works
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by Jeffrey Morton on Jan 18, 2012 4:15 PM MST up reply actions
Look at the Rockies 2007
our 4th starter next season (Nicasio) is likely as talented as the ace of that staff(Francis)(Nicasio was on pace to break the franchise K/BB record as a rookie) A staff full of 2-3 starters is at least as valuable as a top heavy rotation.
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Lets put it to you this way
My question is not with the Monforts. They are who they are and that won’t change. That said, I don’t have alot of trust in Dan O’Dowd…and that may be coloring my view of the situation.
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by Jeffrey Morton on Jan 18, 2012 4:20 PM MST up reply actions
Fair enough buty consider the other clubs consistently in our payroll range
STL, SEA, HOU, ATL, BAL, MIN, CIN, MIL those are all team that have made the playoffs multiple times in the last ten years, O’Dowd has been pretty successful on the whole, although obvi 2011 was huge disapointment
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Still have holes in the field though.
@DylanZable
by CentralCaliRox on Jan 18, 2012 4:53 PM MST up reply actions
One really
and we have tradeable arms/10-15 million to spend
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I hope the elbow is good to go.
I think we will be seeing him in Denver soon
31 today, 30 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Plus, iits only 3 days until I go to Las Vegas to bowl in a professional tournament and 4 days until I start bowling
Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
I like it
31 today, 30 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Plus, iits only 3 days until I go to Las Vegas to bowl in a professional tournament and 4 days until I start bowling
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i hope moyer is at rockies fest
that would be pretty cool
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i love it
arenado: it's Rockie for future
OT: How many times did you attempt to use Wikipedia today?
I think I’m on about ten.
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Too many times
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Its down for 24 hours because if that stupid SOPA crap.
I use it quite a bit and everytime I try, it pisses me off even more.
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just hit escape before the sopa screen pops up
it should cancel the javascript code and let you onto wikipedia
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I switched over to the Spanish version once,
but I felt that that was cheating.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 18, 2012 6:26 PM MST up reply actions
Sabes que no necesito el traductor de Google, ¿no? Pero creo en su campaña contra SOPA, pues no lo hacia de nuevo.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 18, 2012 6:28 PM MST up reply actions
You know that I do not need the translator Google, no? But I believe in its campaign against SOUP, because not it towards again.
I didn't put the tilde in hacia.
Messed up the translation.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 18, 2012 6:33 PM MST up reply actions
...
sure
arenado: it's Rockie for future
And I think they have made their point no?
I’m glad they did it.
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Took a bit to figure out to stop the page from loading before it finishes
which also works well with the NYT paywall if you don’t want to clear out cookies. I’m well into double digits.
Yeah.
But I support the protest, so I honored it by staying out.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Jan 18, 2012 6:29 PM MST up reply actions
I would just forget because it's such a habit.
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i just used TrippingOlney for all my wikipedia needs today
arenado: it's Rockie for future
He was totally out of control yesterday
I had to unfollow him because he went crazy. I felt like I was being spammed by him
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LOL! He annoyed me to no end.
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I suddenly had 88 new tweets at one point.
I was like, What the heck?! I just scrolled through all of them without reading.
Same here! I was really annoyed
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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what do you mean annoyed?
arenado: it's Rockie for future
Let's go for Maddux and the Big Unit!
I hear they haven’t signed with anyone yet.
lol
i love david cone as much anyone and more than most, but one of those things is not like the others…
arenado: it's Rockie for future
David Wells is another crafty lefty we could sign...
even if a bit fat these days.
by The Fanimal on Jan 18, 2012 8:47 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
A new direction for the Rox
#Occupyalltheancientones
I believe.
by Lost Winter on Jan 18, 2012 11:09 PM MST up reply actions
Jamie Moyer
Had better be in the Rockies opening day rotation or I will be extremely disappointed. My dad wanted to buy season tickets this year and I told him no but if Moyer is in the rotation I may have to reconsider.
Please no.
We have literally a dozen better options.
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
More than a dozen
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17?
Lol. I want to see Moyer though, pretty badly.
MOYER IS OUR SAVIOR
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by CentralCaliRox on Jan 18, 2012 10:42 PM MST up reply actions
He'll by like Jason Marquis 2009
Which is fitting, because I think Moyer’s actually Marquis’s great-great uncle.
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Well, he is 2012 years old....
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