Friday Rockpile: Dexter Fowler and the Need For Speed
by Andrew Martin on Jan 27, 2012 1:00 AM MST
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A regular criticism of Rockies' CF Dexter Fowler is that for a guy his height and with runners legs and the grace of a loping antelope, he really isn't all that great at stealing bases. Watching him, you see his graceful strides and the 15 feet separating his footfalls en route from 1B to 3B, you'd think that he'd have no trouble getting 1B to 2B before the pitcher even realized that he was on 1B.
In 2011, the Rockies were surprisingly 12th in MLB in stolen bases. I was expecting somewhere closer to 30th, so 12th came as a shock. The team's leading base stealer was Eric Young, Jr at 27, then Carlos Gonzalez, who stole the lofty total of 20 bags over his injury-shortened season. Fowler was 3rd with a grand total of 12 bases. Clearly, the Rockies need a real speed burner on the top of their lineup if they want to make it anywhere in 2012.
So there are realistically 2 options in my mind: Start EYJ in the leadoff, or start Fowler in the leadoff.
In EY's case, we're dealing with a guy who has a subpar bat, but he stole 27 bases in 77 games and was only caught 4 times (and that's not including his 17:1 SB:CS ratio in AAA Colorado Springs). While Young's .247 batting average was decidedly below what we'd like to see, his .342 OBP WAS above average. This move would pretty much pull Fowler out of the lineup though, probably putting EYJ in LF and Carlos Gonzalez in CF. Depending on how guys are hitting, we might even see this as an option in the event that Fowler spends any significant time on the bench or DL.
More realistically, Fowler will be batting leadoff, with a better OBP, SLG, and maybe fewer SBs, but a practical guarantee that he'll be on 3B after a single. No, Fowler won't wreak the same sort of pitcher-distracting havoc that EYJ would, but that's not necessarily going to guarantee anything. The 2008 Rockies were 2nd in the majors in SB (141) thanks in large part to Willy Taveras, and scored 747 runs. The 2011 Rockies stole 118 bases and scored 735 runs. Yeah, those 12 offensive runs could've been the difference in like 4-5 games. Probably not enough to take the Rockies from turrible to the playoffs, but definitely an improvement on situational run scoring situations.
I'd argue that the quality of the leadoff hitter is going to be more important than their havoc wreaking abilities. While I have no doubt that EYJ will waste more than his fair share of throws over to 1B, it's not like pitchers are going to let Dexter Fowler just lead off to that red part of the leadoff arrow that TBS used to put on the screen during the playoffs. Good running won't necessarily steal 2B, but we're going to see a lot of plays where Fowler is scoring from 1B on deep singles and almost undoubtedly on doubles. If you buy into BsR (Runs from baserunning as tabulated by Fangraphs), Fowler was the Rockies best baserunner in 2011, regardless of his SB total.
Oftentimes, we'll forget the good things a player does because their shinier numbers like homers, RBI, SB, things of that nature aren't as high and awesome. Seth Smith is a good example here. Regardless of his off-field attitude or work ethic or whatever, Seth Smith had 56 XBH, but was kind of brushed under the rug because he never developed that HR power (15 in 2011). Fowler isn't a good leadoff hitter because of low SB totals. The key for this team is to have well rounded hitters who can take full advantage of spacious Coors Field as far as finding places for your baseball to land.
While the Rockies' offense is going to be heavy around Carlos Gonzalez and Troy Tulowitzki, you're going to get a lot of that excess spread among guys like Michael Cuddyer, Marco Scutaro, and Ramon Hernandez. Also, the step up from the 3B joke that 2011 was to Casey Blake - yes, step UP - will add a lot of production. Everyone just needs to focus on being good batters and not on one specific counting stat.
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I would like to think that Fowler will improve on the SB front this year.
But that’s just the eternal optimist in me.
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He did once steal 5 bases in one game
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That always amazes me to think he did that once...
Has there been a demonstrated less talented base stealer to ever get that many bags in one game?
I bet Vince Coleman or Ricky Henderson didn’t do that but a few times in their entire careers….
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by papality on Jan 27, 2012 7:02 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
I read that Dex has been
putting a lot of work into his break toward 2nd base. If he can improve on that, it should help his SB success rate and make him a bigger distraction for the pitcher. At 6’5" you don’t expect him to get out of the blocks like EY does, but his break toward 2nd had become absolutely horrible.
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But he was the last out in 07
THE LAST OUT!!!
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lets not remind him that smith will be in what should be a good platoon with jonny gomes
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 27, 2012 7:49 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Something to note about EY.
Last year, he also cause 5 Outs on Base. This means that he caused an out through a baserunning mistake five times. These mistakes do not include pickoffs, caught stealings, or force outs. This really lowers his value in my eyes.
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how does that compare?
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by papality on Jan 27, 2012 7:28 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Cargo had the same amount
With the same number of Plate Appearances.
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Cargo had over twice as many PAs as EY.
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No, you are absolutely right.
I was looking at the wrong stat column when I read that.
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Here's another way.
Dex had 11 with twice as many PAs. They made mistakes at about the same rate last year. Dex has a much better bat though, Also, his bases taken are at about the same rate as EY (10/18).
EY really only leads in SB.
The issue with his OOB rate to me is that, if he truly is an elite baserunner, he can’t be making these mistakes. And he has to be an elite baserunner because he does not have a major league bat. A sub-.300 SLG is not a number for a major league player.
He has one tool: he’s fast. He gets on base because of this tool. He has good range because of this tool. He steals bases because of this tool. His bat us far below subpar. His baserunning skills aren’t great. His glove is mistake-prone.
I can’t see EY being anymore than a pinchrunner, which is a luxury we can’t afford with a DH on the roster.
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Agreed
If we wanted to up our SB’s, we should’ve just stuck with Willy T. He was just as good a base-stealer (and maybe a better base-runner … less mistake prone) than EY2.
Willy T had a damn good glove & a strong arm in the outfield, 2 tools that EY2 doesn’t have. So I don’t see why EY2 has stuck around as long as he has. He’s Willy T without the D.
2012 has to be a better year. Doesn't it?
Hell
We shoulda just stuck with Juan Pierre
by Purple Row Troll on Jan 27, 2012 11:20 AM MST up reply actions
Baserunning mistake or could it have possibly been a coach telling him to go?
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 27, 2012 7:34 AM MST up reply actions
I’d need some sort of reference point on these numbers to accurately gauge whether that’s truly bad.
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Wow, we were worst in Outs On Base.
So maybe Tracy should say that we need to be smarter base runners, not aggressive base runners.
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For a good baserunning team,
you want to be low on the OOB and high on the BT, like Texas. We’re average on the BT and highest on the OOB.
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This is what I've been saying for two years. Smart, not Aggressive
I should RIRF myself :-)
Opinions vary a bit, but most people say if you’re not successful stealing bases at least 66-75% of the time you’re hurting your team more than helping. The Rockies are at 74% just considering SB/CS. If you factor pick-offs into it it’s 68%. Honestly that’s a lot better than I would have guessed. So the base-stealing game is actually doing ok team-wise.
It’s all those other mistakes (usually resulting in Jim Tracy’s arm around a player’s shoulder accompanied by a lecture in the dugout — I’m sure we can all think of a few last year) that we’ve got to stop. In fact, those are often even more costly than a typical caught stealing because they tend to be rally-killers. You use the stolen base to try to get something started or in a crucial spot, not usually in the middle of a rally.
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by RoarFrom112 on Jan 27, 2012 11:54 AM MST up reply actions
So our frustration with the contact plays (etc) is justified.
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by glaucophane on Jan 27, 2012 12:18 PM MST up reply actions
We need more...
baserunners that are “special”.
by WhiskeyDrinkingMan on Jan 27, 2012 4:04 PM MST up reply actions
You’ll see that most guys with 5 OOBs also have 500 or so PAs. Basically, he is above average in number of OOBs per PA. For someone whose value is derived from what he does on the basepaths, you would want that number to be lower. Dex was slightly worse.
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Is EYJ more valuable on one of those bench UTIL roles?
Coming off the bench late in pinch running situations with extreme speed is very valuable
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The Tigers had 49 SB’s last year and the Cardinals had 57 both made the playoffs
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So you are saying that the final standings aren't dependant on the # of SBs?
Curious…
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I was looking through a couple of the past seasons to see if there were any correlation, so far nothing, but i just posted it cuz i thought it was interesting
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 27, 2012 7:57 AM MST up reply actions
9 teams were caught stealing more than the Tigers stole
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 27, 2012 7:56 AM MST up reply actions
and they've only improved
on their athleticism and hustle since then.
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 27, 2012 8:03 AM MST up reply actions
He has more sb's
Than his dad did…
by Purple Row Troll on Jan 27, 2012 11:21 AM MST up reply actions
They should be interested in EY2 in trade then
as they would probably love to have 2B with his defensive prowess
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hahaha, best defensive INF ever
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 27, 2012 8:11 AM MST up reply actions
i wouldn't count miggy out yet
he’s looking like he’s for serious in great shape now
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The ideal spot for EY2 would be Ninth
That way, you minimize his PAs while maximizing his speed in front of a guy who does a lot of good, but not great, things: gets on base at an above average clip, has some power, and makes average contact.
Not that it really matters unless there’s multiple injuries or EY2 can play amazing defense at third.
EY has no power.
None.
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Or do you mean Dex?
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Dex
maximizing his speed in front of a guy who…
But as someone who trolls for opportunities to trash Cuddyer’s defense and RH platoon splits whenever I have the chance, I can respect the speed and completeness in which you articulated empirically proved your point.
I’m just trying to prepare everyone for EY being cut.
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I thought we could get something for him.
Like CC Sabathia
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Realistically, he should be cut or traded for AAA filler
because there’s not a role for a speedy, no-bat, no-defense guy on this roster. The team has foreclosed on that possibility by keeping a slow, all-bat, single position guy on the roster.
Can't cut John Smith and Pocahontas' love child!!!
That’s out of the question
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hell ya he was the founder of Jamestown
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 27, 2012 8:51 AM MST up reply actions
Actually, he wasn't even the guy in charge.
But because of his ability and sensibility of surviving in the wilderness, he became the defacto leader.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 27, 2012 8:56 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
I always thought CDI should bat 9th. If EY2 were to somehow factor into our plans, 9th would be a great spot for him too. His on-base skills are pretty great imo…unless he takes a step back…
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In addition
Dex beat his own Rockies record for triples last year. That coming with spending time in C/S.
this
i think triples are a very overlooked stat. To hit a lot of triples you have to have BOTH power and speed.
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by Jamie Hollowell on Jan 27, 2012 9:30 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
And a bit of control putting the ball in play where you want it.
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plus they are fun to watch
What the hell you lookin' at?
by Johnny Tits on Jan 27, 2012 12:03 PM MST up reply actions
And they score a lot of runs
clear the bases, set up a sacrifice. Gotta love the triple. If Dex stood with his foot on 1st base (little-league style) all season and hit a bunch of triples, I’d be very very happy.
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by RoarFrom112 on Jan 27, 2012 12:06 PM MST up reply actions
I think he beats his record again this year.
A healthly Dex = 15+ triples in 2012.
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I think this is the topic that annoys me the most about the Rox
Being more aggressive on the basepaths and how Fowler needs to become a better base stealer. A leadoff hitter does not need to steal bases, only get on base for the meat of the order. I would be perfectly happy if Fowler finished with an OBP of .370 and zero steals as long as he is on first when Scutaro and Cargo come to bat.
This isn’t a criticism of you AMart, I’m just waiting for Tracy to say we need to be more aggressive on the basepaths for the 3rd straight spring. And how winning teams need to manufacturer runs by hit and run, squeeze plays and other stupid ideas.
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so true, I swear I’ve heard this every year for the Rockies
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 27, 2012 8:29 AM MST up reply actions
better get a barf bag ready, 'cuz lt's ln Tracy's DNA...
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Fowler doesn't need to lead the world in SBs
But if he’s going to be at the top of the order, it’s important that he not suck at it. I agree that OBP is far more important, but I really don’t want to see the opponent’s infield breaking out the lawn chairs when Dex is on base.
Carlos, for example, doesn’t steal a ton of bases but he’s good at it. Good enough, in fact, that he’s a threat to go even in a close game and in a tight situation. If Dex can just get to that level, it will help the team.
by Northsider1964 on Jan 27, 2012 8:52 AM MST up reply actions
Dex's ability to stretch a single
is terrific, and every bit as valuable as the ability to steal second. But that still doesn’t mean he has to absolutely suck at stealing.
Has stealing a base really fallen so badly out of fashion that we actually want our players to be bad at it?
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If only CDI had been around in Billy Beane's hayday
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But I still don’t want my players to suck at it, despite what a sabermetric icon might write in a book or say in a movie.
by Northsider1964 on Jan 27, 2012 11:07 AM MST up reply actions
I wouldn't say that
but I don’t think it’s an important part of the game. If Dex steals second, he still needs someone to get him home and that’s something the team wasn’t able to do well last year.
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by Cargo'es Yard on Jan 27, 2012 10:59 AM MST up reply actions
Stealing Bases is a good thing
but only at a success rate of 80% or more
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by Jamie Hollowell on Jan 27, 2012 9:33 AM MST up reply actions
I would accept anything over 75%
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only 7 people in history have a success rate over 80%
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If you believe that statistics
Those are the truly elite small handful of people that really added value to their teams through basestealing. Of course, there are plenty more players that have had a 80% success rate for a single season. Included Taveras in 2007, no?
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by SurfaceThought on Jan 27, 2012 12:05 PM MST up reply actions
78% in 2007, 91%(!!) in 2008
plenty of people have done it in single seasons, but almost nobody has maintained that over a career. the steal continues to go undervalued though, as tim raines’s hall candidacy demonstrates
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The steal is only going undervalued if you believe that the SB success rate
you need in order to have a positive contribution to your team is lower than the SABR folks think it is. If a guy is among the league leaders in SB’s every year and has a 72% success rate each season, how valuable is that?
It’s an interesting, but very tough question to answer.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 27, 2012 12:15 PM MST up reply actions
that would depend on how many runs he's scoring,
which depends on the lineup… it doesn’t really help to have an elite baserunner like say ichiro (who also belongs on that list, with an 81.5% career rate) on a bad team like seattle; he’s never stolen fewer than 26, but in 2011 he stole 40 with only 80 runs scored
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80%. Wow
Even Earl Weaver, who more or less hated the running game, said 75%
Situation enters into it too much to go strictly by a percentage though. There are situations where calling a stolen base is well worth the risk, even though statistically it’s not in your favor, much like pulling a goalie in hockey. Outside those, I tend to think it’s a way over-valued play and a number like 75-80% is pretty close to right.
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by RoarFrom112 on Jan 27, 2012 12:11 PM MST up reply actions
Any mention of Earl Weaver
is a good excuse to post this video. (Harsh language warning)
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 27, 2012 1:49 PM MST up reply actions
Pretty good
Cargo article from Troy Renck this morning.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 27, 2012 8:28 AM MST reply actions
so basically after he got paid, he didn’t really train in the offseason
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 27, 2012 8:38 AM MST up reply actions
bit simplistic seems like he got caught up in the distractions that come with being a
highly visible MVP candidate MLB Player. The rise from obscurity was probably a lot more distracting to his routine than knowing that he will be rich in a few years.
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hey man, he was busy training with Ray Rice, Matt Ryan, Evan Longoria, and that NASCAR guy as part of the Gilette Young Guns team.
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This time last year
The story was that he had worked out like a madman and packed on 20 pounds of muscle.
More than any team in the history of the universe, the Rockies seem to win or lose games based on things that happen away from the playing field. I find it hard to believe they were unprepared for the 2011 season, but they have a tough time admitting that they just sucked when they got between the white lines.
by Northsider1964 on Jan 27, 2012 8:58 AM MST up reply actions
kinda what I feel too, they can’t seem to come to grips with just sucking last year
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 27, 2012 9:01 AM MST up reply actions
his April certainly had the look of someone who was pressing to "earn" his new contract
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Agree, but it had more to do with swinging at everything in sight
rather than being out of shape or unprepared. Once Carlos showed even a modest amount of plate discipline and started getting the hittable pitches in play, his numbers got better.
by Northsider1964 on Jan 27, 2012 9:22 AM MST up reply actions
"getting in shape" for baseball players has as much to do with taking batting practice
as it does to do with situps. Getting in to the right routine is so important because baseball is all about perfect repetition.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
And this may have been exactly what happened
Cargo posted a .964 OPS after April 30th last year following that dreadful .552 showing the first 29 days of the season’s opening month. It’s possible that he wasn’t ready for the begining of the season and it took him a month of baseball to get into his routine.
And frankly, I hope this is exactly what happened because if we can chalk that first month up to poor preparation, then we can place the .964 OPS from April 30th on last season next to the .974 OPS he posted for the 2010 season and say pretty confidently that that’s who Cargo really is as an offensive player. We know he’s at least great, but confirming that April was due more to poor preparation than a random fluctuation in his numbers would almost confirm he’s going to be elite.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 27, 2012 9:51 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Since coming to the Rockies Cargo has posted
three bad months(June 09 55 wRC+, April 2011 53wRC+ and Sept 2011 11Games 77wRC+) two good months 99 96wRC+ three very goodmonths 128 130 118wRC+’s and eight MVP months 143 148 164 194 176 175 195 196wRC+’s I really hope he can stay healthy because he is just a joy to watch when he is hot.
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by TomCat009 on Jan 27, 2012 10:05 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Sucking between the white lines
can still be a product of not preparing properly outside of them. I believe too many people try to break down being properly preparepared into a simple “he was ready” or “he wasn’t ready” when in reality it’s more of a spectrum. I’m sure Cargo was ready enough to contribute when he showed up last Spring but he feels he could have done even more to ensure he would get the absolute most out of his talents in 2011. How much more? Well that’s where I think the real debate lies.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 27, 2012 9:29 AM MST up reply actions
As long as he comes in this year in the best shape of his life
I’ll be happy.
Seriously, though, you’ve got a point. From the sports I play, I can tell that there is a difference between being in good enough shape to simply perform the activity and having enough strength and stamina to perform well.
I think National League pitchers
showed up in April determined not to throw Carlos strikes until he displayed some plate discipline. Better preparation might have helped, but that issue is more about execution once you step in the box.
All I’m saying is that until Carlos had a sucky April, the company line coming out of Coors Field was that he was absolutely ripped and ready to go. Only a year after the fact does anyone suggest he wasn’t properly prepared.
by Northsider1964 on Jan 27, 2012 10:34 AM MST up reply actions
"But he'll be ready this year"
“Single game tickets on sale now, and we’ve got some great deals on April games!”
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by RoarFrom112 on Jan 27, 2012 11:58 AM MST up reply actions
he's very easily my favorite player
i love his attitude, his work ethic, his swagger…. serious man crush
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My observations with Dex
is that even though he does have good speed and a long stride, he is often a very dumb baserunner. A lot of times, especially early in his career, he is very reluctant to take off and use his speed on the basepaths. This reluctancy results in less stolen bases and being caught between bases. Dex has the skill, he just have to get over these mental hurdles.
is it summer yet?
It may be that Fowler's type of speed doesn't translate well for base stealing....
……just a thought. He has that big loping stride and is very graceful going 1st to 3rd or hittings doubles. But maybe it takes a few more strides at the beginning to get into this gait…but he more than makes up for his slow start once he hits full speed. But maybe he makes up for it after 90 feet. It could be that quick is better than fast for a base stealer. For example, if you put Fowler in track, I’ll bet he would dominate the 200 or 400 meters more so than the 100 meters…..or I could just be way off on this analysis.
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Yep
Base stealing is less about how fast you can run and more about how quick you can accelerate, and when you make your move. That is Fowler’s problem, he has lost a lot of acceleration as he has grown, and isn’t getting good reads on the pitchers.
True
Maury Wills wasn’t that fast, but he stole lots of bases.
Willy T was just as fast when he first came up w/ Houston as he was later when he played for the Rox, but he wasn’t near as good a base stealer. He insisted on always returning to 1B standing up. Only when he perfected his leadoff & dive back to the backon pickoff attempts did he become the league’s best base stealer.
Technique is as important as speed, above a certain minimal speed level.
I’d rather Dex spend more time on improving his swing for more power than on base-stealing. There’s also the injury & fatigue factor. I don’t want him running as much as Willy T and either getting hurt or wearing himself down by August. Just hit doubles & trot to 2B.
2012 has to be a better year. Doesn't it?
He had pretty good success his rookie season
but his mechanics regressed after that. For the reasons you state, I don’t ever expect Dex to be among the league leaders in SBs. But he can certainly be better than he’s been the past two seasons.
by Northsider1964 on Jan 27, 2012 9:14 AM MST up reply actions
Not making outs...
is more important than stealing a few bags. Avoiding double plays is important, but giving up outs on Caught Stealings is not good. If you can’t steal at over an 80% rate, it’s not worth giving away outs.
Also, as a few others have pointed out— Fowler’s lanky frame translates well to covering the expansive outfield with his long strides, but it takes a guy like that a bit longer to get up to full speed than guys built like EY2, Rickey Henderson and Tim Raines.
First, EY needs to go join Cory Sullivan at 7-ll
now that I’ve got that off my chest, how important are stolen bases in a park as big as Coors? If a player has good speed and at least passable general base-running IQ, isn’t that more important anyway? With Dexter’s speed, is having him steal bases even worth the risk, considering that he can score from first on a hit in the gap anyway?
Agree
If the 2011 season wasn't the end of the world, what is the 2012 season going to be?
by RoxBackyardTalent on Jan 27, 2012 10:10 AM MST up reply actions
you know, with his speed
it would be best to let Sullivan work the register, and EY can replenish the hot dogs, maintain the slurpee machine, etc.
Here is a good read about park factors and the success of the home team.
It is fairly broad but contains some interesting numbers to throw out during discussions about how Coors Field helps hitters numbers.
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2012/1/27/2748097/how-much-do-park-factors-affect-team-success
To relate to this RP post, being able to steal bases would help more at pitcher friendly parks because you have to generate some runs typically. However, the Rockies home park being Coors Field, its more useful to be able to go from first to third on a single and first to home on a double then to steal second base in my opinion. What I would like to see from Dex is smarter baserunning and a high OBP because of who is hitting behind him.
If the 2011 season wasn't the end of the world, what is the 2012 season going to be?
by RoxBackyardTalent on Jan 27, 2012 10:09 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
How do we quantify the importance of stolen bases for a team?
….I’m guessing baseball has some way to do this. For example, if the Rox are a middle of the pack power team playing in a double/triple friendly park, how important are steals? It would seem to be much more important for a team in a pitcher friendly park.
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I think it's not necessarily about piling up a big total of SBs
But making sure you have players who are an actual threat to go in meaningful situations.
There are plenty of guys who can swipe 2nd with a 4-run lead in the 5th inning. I’m not as interested in leading the NL in SBs as I am having it in our arsenal when we really need it.
by Northsider1964 on Jan 27, 2012 10:50 AM MST up reply actions
Giants get Theriot
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Good for them.
May he give them -2 WAR this year.
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Get well soon Juan.
interesting
the “ot” brothers from Wrigleyville reunite
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 27, 2012 10:40 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Not a bad choice for a potential SS platoon with Fontenot.
I was hoping they’d have to give more playing time to Emmanuel Burriss.
But I’d rather have Scutaro than the both of ’em, personally.
Wow....well good for him.
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THIS!
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by Roxman4ever on Jan 27, 2012 11:15 AM MST up reply actions
it's really bizarre
he and sabean got together and said “lets totally screw with our top position player prospects until we likely ruin them, while continuing to overpay for washed-up veterans.” and then on the way out, amaro burned a $100 bill to cement it in the universe
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Speedy player, plays adequate defense, gets on base at an acceptable rate for a part time player
Got more going for him than EY2
That's kind of like being the tallest person at a midget convention, though.
by Shoemaker on Jan 27, 2012 11:19 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Why do you
hate little people? (kidding)
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Lolz
They already have 20 players on their 40-man who are older than 30.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 11:04 AM MST up reply actions
See that Rosario changed his number to 20
So all of you with Iannetta jerseys just change the nameplate.
Interesting
Arenado wore 20 in the AFL, and that’s the number he was wearing at Fan Fest
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 11:20 AM MST up reply actions
Rosario wanted to piss Arenado off
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 27, 2012 11:46 AM MST up reply actions
Some odd # choices by the pitchers
Outman picked 88, but he’s always like odd numbers. Pomeranz (#13) and White (#6) struck me as strange. Not that I care, as long as they throw strikes…
by Northsider1964 on Jan 27, 2012 11:28 AM MST up reply actions
If I were a pro baseball player
I’d be stoked if I could get any single number. Can’t believe #1 was wasted on EYJr!
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I find this sort of amusing because he's exactly the opposite of Iannetta as a hitter
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 27, 2012 11:29 AM MST up reply actions
Well I guess not completely opposite
Certainly opposite in the BB department though
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 27, 2012 11:30 AM MST up reply actions
Juan Pierre is the exact opposite of Chris Iannetta
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!!MOOOD
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by Junction Rox on Jan 27, 2012 11:41 AM MST up reply actions
LOL...no wait LOL...hmmm
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if you mixed Iannetta and Pierre together you could make one HOF
and one High School RF
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Take Pierre's wheels and contact, add Iannetta's arm, patience, power
and you have Larry Walker
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But Walker isn't a HOF player
Just ask the BBWAA
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 27, 2012 11:51 AM MST up reply actions
other numbers
pom changes to 13,pacheco 22,A White to 6. Moyer 50(lol), Scutero 19,Blake 14, Colvin 21, DLM 9.
Moyer's number is TOO funny
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 11:27 AM MST up reply actions
If Jamie Moyer doesn't pitch for us at some point this season,
I’ll be pretty sad.
by Shoemaker on Jan 27, 2012 11:29 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
As long as he earn his way on
And he’s not pitching because out entire OD rotation is 2011 unlucky.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 11:31 AM MST up reply actions
Or he's pitching in September
because we lead the division by a bajillion games.
by Shoemaker on Jan 27, 2012 11:31 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
There we go
I can get behind that
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 11:32 AM MST up reply actions
Why
If Moyer doesn’t pitch that means our other guys did better
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 27, 2012 11:31 AM MST up reply actions
From a competitive standpoint, you're right, it's probably best if our other rotational candidates excel.
But, for purely irrational reasons, I want him to get at least one game for us.
50 year old Jamie Moyer winning a game for the Rockies at Coors Field would be simultaneously hilarious and delightful.
This is where I'm at
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Anyone know if that would make him the oldest player in the modern era to win a game?
by Purple Row Troll on Jan 27, 2012 11:46 AM MST up reply actions
Didn't Satchel win a few
at like 53? Im still reading the autobio so haven’t got to his 50s yet…
Jose Contreras might have a case
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I'd like it better
if it was 80…seems more accurate.
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Single-digit pitcher numbers are pretty rare
Some guy with Toronto a few years ago is the only one I remember offhand. Wore #7 but I can’t think of his name. Oh, and Brent Mayne. :-)
David Wells wanted to wear #3 with the Yankees but they wouldn’t let him, for some reason.
Didn't... who has it... Matt Herges have a single digit Uni with us?
I’m pretty sure one of our bullpen pitchers in the last five or six years has sported a single digit uniform number.
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by SurfaceThought on Jan 27, 2012 12:02 PM MST up reply actions
Herges wore 34 & 77
Josh Towers wore number 7 for the Jays and was in camp with us in 2008, but I don’t know what number he wore here.
Is it April yet?
Kyle Drabek wears #4 for Toronto.
I love single-digit pitchers. White wore #6 at Carolina, maybe he’s thinking it’s his lucky number.
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by Franchise26 on Jan 27, 2012 12:08 PM MST up reply actions
Most pitchers think single-digit numbers are bad luck
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
So Ubaldo was traded for two guys who aren't superstitious?
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Jan 27, 2012 3:55 PM MST up reply actions
I'm a little bit surprised at the language you used in your article AMart
Clearly, the Rockies need a real speed burner on the top of their lineup if they want to make it anywhere in 2012.
Really? If there was someone that the Rox could play that could get on base at a 400 clip guaranteed then I would start them leadoff even if I knew they would not attempt a single stolen base all season. Statistical analysis would seem to indicate that the only base stealers that really add value through their basestealing ability are the truly elite (Henderson, Raines) types. If we had a truly elite basestealer, then I would be all for seeing him steal as many as possible. But even then its not clear that the best place for a base stealer is necessarily the top of the order. Dexter is fast and adds value with his base running when he isn’t even attempting to steal bases. I’m alright with him not being a basestealer. My intuition is that in terms of value for the team his energy should go into getting better at getting on base in the first place instead of trying to get ten more steal a season, or whatever.
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by SurfaceThought on Jan 27, 2012 12:00 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
this
I would take a better OBP over stolen bases from a leadoff guy every day, and twice on sundays
Is it April yet?
and we all know how the Rockies could use it twice on Sundays
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 27, 2012 12:03 PM MST up reply actions
Go back to the A's
with that attitude
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...
were you not here for the Great Sunday Punt of 2011?
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“Go back to Cincinnati”
name that movie
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 27, 2012 12:29 PM MST up reply actions
Angels in the Outfield
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Hemmerling for Mitchell?!?!?!
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 27, 2012 12:38 PM MST up reply actions
There's some value in getting in the pitcher's head too
but even so, OBP is far more important. You can’t get in the pitchers head very well from the dugout.
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by RoarFrom112 on Jan 27, 2012 12:04 PM MST up reply actions
There has to be some effect on the pitcher from having to check the runner at first, etc.
But statistically it has proven hard to quantify. There is also definitely an extra burden on the person in the batters box if they have to be worrying about hit-and-runs or hitting it to a certain side of the field and things of the nature.
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by SurfaceThought on Jan 27, 2012 12:08 PM MST up reply actions
The hit-and run is usually a very bad idea
but excluding plays that force both the runner and batter to make bad decisions, I think most batters would far prefer to hit with a speedy guy on first. Puts way more pressure on the pitcher than on the batter.
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by RoarFrom112 on Jan 27, 2012 12:14 PM MST up reply actions
When I read that, my first thought was "who are you, and what have you done with RMN?"
My second thought was that he was pretending to be conventional for a moment for rhetorical purposes, and wanted us to be convinced that OBP was more important than base-stealing.
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by glaucophane on Jan 27, 2012 12:57 PM MST up reply actions
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 27, 2012 5:57 PM MST up reply actions
OT: Bowling in Las Vegas didn't go very well. It was kind of anticipated.
Truth is I simply got my ass kicked. Those guys are good, and they way the lanes were. Food could been cooked with how much oil was on them lanes.
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Source?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 27, 2012 2:04 PM MST up reply actions
Sunset Station Hotel and Casino
It was the 2012 USBC Masters. I got to bowl with the pros and that is something that a lot of bowlers can say that they have done. I enjoyed every minute of it. I talked with the pros and got advice and tips. I took them all to heart and will continue to improve off their advice alone.
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Sunset Station's fun
Plus there’s an in-n-out like right across the parking lot.
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Oh yea. I ate there for the first time and OMG, it was so good. I wish there was one near where I live
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My boss told me that I needed to it one time.
He recommended getting the burger animal style. No thanks, I’ll take it with ketchup and mustard only
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Ohhhh but Animal Style is so good!!
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I love the size of the order of fries you get.
We got 4 fries and good Lord, I wasn’t expecting that much
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What are animal style fries?
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They have the cooked onions on top of them
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 4:42 PM MST up reply actions
Ohhh...must try
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I guess it has some type of sauce on it also
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Blech I don't like their "secret sauce"
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In N Out... One of the few things I actually miss about California
Gotta love the “we haven’t changed our menu since 1950-whatever, and we wont ever ship our food further than a truck can get from Stockton, CA, but we do have a whole secret menu” philosophy.
For anyone not familiar with this:
http://www.badmouth.net/in-n-outs-secret-menu/
http://aht.seriouseats.com/archives/2011/03/the-in-n-out-survival-guide-we-ate-every-single-item-on-the-secret-menu.html
I do agree with Cat on the secret sauce though. As cool as the secret menu is, a double double, fries, and vanilla shake is just about perfect.
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by RoarFrom112 on Jan 27, 2012 6:29 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
The animal style burger at In and Out.
I guess it has everything but the kitchen sink on it.
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It was probably your lackluster offseason preparation
Or perhaps your clubhouse atmosphere was in disarray.
by Northsider1964 on Jan 27, 2012 2:16 PM MST up reply actions
He just didn't "get it"
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 27, 2012 2:25 PM MST up reply actions
Too much twitter
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by Junction Rox on Jan 27, 2012 2:27 PM MST up reply actions
It's all Ian Stewart's fault
as usual.
Now if you had a Call of Duty tournament…
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HEY! Its back
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I missed it!
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by Junction Rox on Jan 27, 2012 4:08 PM MST up reply actions
All comments were down for a little bit.
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o/t: Getting my new PC tomorrow....
awww yeah
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Jan 27, 2012 3:56 PM MST reply actions
blackberry storm.
Filling up your senses like a night in the forest since 1992.
by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 27, 2012 4:13 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
didn't buy a specific brand, bought a bunch of stuff at the other day and am in process of getting it all put together
has a new intel i9 chip and 16!!! gigs of RAM….
aww yea.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Jan 27, 2012 10:18 PM MST up reply actions
What are you going to get?
I’m in the know on TVs.
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by Charlie77 on Jan 27, 2012 5:12 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
I'm looking mostly at Samsung right now
The 5500 series is I think the one I settled on? 40", 1080p, 120hz
I was looking at LGs until I realized how big my return was going to be, and then decided I’d make the step up to a better brand.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 5:17 PM MST up reply actions
I LOVE my Sony Bravia... I mean I LOVE it.
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Sony's are good, but a little pricey. imo
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by Charlie77 on Jan 27, 2012 5:23 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Well I got my on sale at Costco so that made it quite palatable.
It was like $1000.00 off
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Plus
Sony seems to be having a decent sale online right now – one thing I don’t care about is the whole Smart TV thing, I’ve got a blu-ray player picked out that will get me all the internetz things I need.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 5:25 PM MST up reply actions
I looked for like 3 months
I thought I was settled on a Samsung at the time but I think the picture and sound on the Bravia are perfect really. My sis bought a Samsung and took it back and ended up with the Bravia….they like the Bravia picture better.
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Good to know...
My Dad has bought Samsungs ever since the HD craze began, and every one of them has held up awesome… although past brand performance is no guarantee of future brand performance these days.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 5:29 PM MST up reply actions
Samsung is good, is that the 6500?
Are you going LED, because I would highly recommend it.
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by Charlie77 on Jan 27, 2012 5:22 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
The two I'm looking at are an LED and an LED/LCD
I’m probably going to go with the LED… but now cat has me thinking about the Bravia. One thing that really pisses me off is that ever brand has their own “motionthingy” now, and it makes it difficult to compare apples to apples.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 5:24 PM MST up reply actions
LED bulbs are rated at 20+ yrs vs 5 for the others..
they also produce millions of colors at a fraction of the energy cost. If you can find a good deal on a Sony it would be worth it. They hide all sorts of cool features in their TVs.
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by Charlie77 on Jan 27, 2012 5:29 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
I'm looking at that now
There’s a 1080p, 240 Motionclear (will this be good enough for action and sports?) Bravia that’s pretty competitively priced with the Samsung I like on their website right now… ahhh my decision has been made harder! In a good way! Thank goodness I have a week and a half till my money gets here :-)
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 5:32 PM MST up reply actions
The cool thing about the Bravia
is that it has ambient light settings that you can adjust. It’s never too bright or glary. You can set it to use less energy which makes the screen a bit darker, like a laptop but not to the expense of a nice picture. Mine is a 47inch which is a good size for my apt without taking over the room.
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I think the Samsung has that too
The picture will adjust to the brightness of the room (which is good because my apt gets a lot of natural light). I’m looking at 40", but could make the jump to 43" or 47"
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 5:39 PM MST up reply actions
How far away is your couch from the tv?
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by Charlie77 on Jan 27, 2012 5:41 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Well the room is huge
Right now the couch is a good 6-7 feet but I can always move it back. I agree on the debate between 120-240hz, but I’d rather have a smaller TV with 120hz than a bigger one with 60hz. I’d rather settle on size than quality
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 5:42 PM MST up reply actions
Dont get 60hz.
Movies are filmed at 24 frames/second and 60 doesn’t divide evenly, so thats when skipping occurs.
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by Charlie77 on Jan 27, 2012 5:44 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Yeah
I know because my GF has a 60hz… she can’t tell the difference but it drives me c-razy
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 5:45 PM MST up reply actions
I settled on 47" in the event
I move to a bigger place it won’t be too small….
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That's a good size
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by Charlie77 on Jan 27, 2012 5:45 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
TWSS
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I don’t even have a TV. I have nothing to add to this conversation. It’s very disappointing.
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Right now I just have a 40 year old tube TV
Hooked up to a DVD player and nothing else. It’s actually kinda nice, but I know once baseball season comes along I’ll want something more. Plus I do love movies.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 5:47 PM MST up reply actions
Oh my friend
I’m so spoiled on my HDTV. It’s just …..well…yeah….
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I have a 24" iMac,
and an 27" HDMI-capable monitor that I used to have connected to DirecTV and an AppleTV, but I’m off of DirecTV now. Kids don’t give me time to watch much.
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^46/47
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I like mine quite a bit
unfortunately it’s a replacement Sony was kind enough to sell me at a “reduced” price when the 6 year old 52" LCD rear projection Sony I had developed big blue blotches on the screen (a known production defect, as it turned out…).
Let’s just say I’m ambivalent about Sony TVs these days..
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by Junction Rox on Jan 27, 2012 6:52 PM MST up reply actions
Imo you can't tell the difference between 120 hz and 240 hz.
the human eye just cant see the extra frames. 120 is the most i would get. The contrast ratio is more important, that’s how much color is in the tv.
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by Charlie77 on Jan 27, 2012 5:40 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
I’m going to KC and STL with the family with our return.
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Ooh fun!
I was planning on making a ST trip with the money, and then my mom calls me and tells me we’ve got accommodations and tickets for the 22-24th… not gonna lie, it’s been a nice few days :-)
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 5:20 PM MST up reply actions
We're actually doing more time in KC.
I thought we’d be in STL more, but KC seems to have more things that our family is interested in. I was surprised.
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Driving or flying?
I once drove there from Laramie, it was a fun roadtrip.
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by Charlie77 on Jan 27, 2012 5:25 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Driving.
That was the discussion, whether we would fly to the east coast and see some peeps or drive to KC and STL. I’ve never really been to either city, only driven throguh, so we went with the driving trip even though the kids are 3 and 18 months. They should be ok though. They just went to Peru and Mexico. They should be able to handle the Midwest.
We’re coming back through Springfield, MO as well so that we can see something different on the drive back.
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Did everyone leave?
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Yes
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by Junction Rox on Jan 27, 2012 4:38 PM MST up reply actions
Yes
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He asked if everyone left
You don’t count as anyone, hence don’t get a say ;-) Also, SHERLOCK IS FRICKEN AWESOME!
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 4:39 PM MST up reply actions
Yep.
It’s pretty good.
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It's like Lock Stock & Two Smoking Barrels
Meets David Fincher meets Monk. So good.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 4:40 PM MST up reply actions
I'm not sure where Lock, Stock fits into there,
but yes.
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IDK
Dark british humor, plus they’re going to fast for me to understand the words, yet somehow I understand what’s going on.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 4:42 PM MST up reply actions
Are you talking about the Stephen Moffat BBC show
or the Robert Downey Jr movie?
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Gotcha....lol
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Uh...that's the movie
I meant the TV Show
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I'm confused now.
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So am I...LOL
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I was too
Are we on the same page now?
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 4:45 PM MST up reply actions
The show
On BBC. I was just comparing it to three things at once.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 4:43 PM MST up reply actions
Well thanks for confusing me
because Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels was directed by Guy Ritchie who directed the latest Sherlock Holmes movie….
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Yes, yes
I realized that after I posted. Confusion all around.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 4:45 PM MST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ALG8ulbK9s
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I have not see the newest Ritchie Holmes
but I enjoyed the first one.
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And I hear the 2nd one is better
Going to the theater tonight and it’s between that or Mission Impossible 1700 million thousand.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 4:49 PM MST up reply actions
Oh pick Sherlock Holmes
just for me.
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OKAY!
Also, RDJr >>>>>>>>> Tom Cruise
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 4:50 PM MST up reply actions
It's like not even a discussion.
RDJr brilliant actor and bona fide movie start. Tom Cruise…movie star….that’s it.
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I know
It was more just on my scale of man crushes, but also, yes, what you said
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 4:51 PM MST up reply actions
Also, Jude Law
/sigh
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I enjoyed Sherlock 2.
The plot was twisted, which i like, but its ending was a little too clean for me. Lots of laughs though, which made it fun.
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by Charlie77 on Jan 27, 2012 5:15 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
I'll agree, its a good movie
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I can't wait for season 2.
But I will wait for it.
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The Series 2 finale will blow your mind
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Bah!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmfxauUzKsw
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I don't understand ....
how this relates…
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I think he would find it illogical.
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You are the Pirate Queen!
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I don't know why
But this made me chuckle.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 4:49 PM MST up reply actions
I have no idea what you are talking about.
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You did watch the Sherlock Season 2.
The only way to do that is… ARRRRRR!!!
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I have no idea what you are talking about.
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About which he is talking
SDcat 09 had not a clue
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 4:53 PM MST up reply actions
Ohhhhh...
/winks
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Heh.
Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman just give them all the awards now.
Also, I want Benedict Cumberbatch to read me the yellow pages or anything.
That is all
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I loved him in
“Atonement”. He’s gonna voice Smaug in “The Hobbit”!
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WHAHAAAAA that's so cool!
Also, I’m waiting to read the book atonement before I see the movie. But it’s kinda far down my list of reads
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 4:47 PM MST up reply actions
Martin Freeman is Bilbo Baggins
Cumberbatch is “Smaug” …
And and and….Cumberbatch is going to be in the new Star Trek movie too!
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NO WAY!
I’m not much of a trek expert, but I LOVED the reboot. And I can’t wait for the sequel. I LOOOVOEE JJ Abrams
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 4:50 PM MST up reply actions
WAY!
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Way!!!!
Supposedly he’ll be a villain……DO.WANT!
Also for Whovians, Noel Clarke aka Mickey Smith in it too.
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Mmkay
Once I finish series 1 of Sherlock, I’m thinking of dipping my toe into DW… where should I start?
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 4:53 PM MST up reply actions
IMO, start with 2005 reboot.
Christopher Ecclestone is the Doctor in that season,followed by David Tennant (who is now My Doctor)…and then Matt Smith.
Stephen Moffat wrote many episodes of DW during Russell T Davies tenure as head writer and producer before he took over as the current producer
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I would agree with that
I still have residual nerd love for the original era Who, but the combination of the seriously cheesy low budgetness and the more drawn out individual story arcs is probably not the place to start. Start with the beginning of the Eccleston series and just keep going.
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by Junction Rox on Jan 27, 2012 5:11 PM MST up reply actions
Cool
They have like ALL of the old stuff on Netflix, and I was getting overwhelmed – thanks for the advice, guys
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 5:18 PM MST up reply actions
I was sort of in and out on DW until the reboot
And like most episodes all the episodes. Oh and I think the musical score is just superb. Seriously.
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Someone photoshopped his head on
Ricardo Monaltban’s body from TWOK. I thought it was funny.
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but what if she goes where we are
well not all of us together, but we are all somewhere.
Or at least most of us anyway…
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Jan 27, 2012 5:13 PM MST up reply actions
I'm not even here.
I'M SORRY I WAS EVER MAD AT YOU, ROCKIES! COME BACK TO ME! I LOVE YOU!!
by prettyinpurple on Jan 27, 2012 4:42 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Anyone live near Needles California?
22 today, 21 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
127,000 people according to their website...
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by Junction Rox on Jan 27, 2012 4:42 PM MST up reply actions
Har har hardy har har
Anyone on the Row from around this area.
22 today, 21 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
Not that anyone would admit
It’s way far from me
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Well, I am just north of there visiting some friends from back home.
Were actually on our way home from Vegas. Just hanging here for a couple of days.
22 today, 21 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
LoL. I was totally thinking of
Spike from Buffy and I thought…wait…what
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Maybe Needles is close to Sunnydale
or at least where Sunnydale used to be…
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by Junction Rox on Jan 27, 2012 5:13 PM MST up reply actions
Well some have suggested Needles
is the Hellmouth…..no wait…that’s Barstow…
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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Project Prospect Top 100
http://projectprospect.com/article/2012/01/27/2012-top-100-prospect-list
Arenado #13
Pomeranz #29
Rosario #33
Bettis #71
Gomez #80
Matzek & Wheeler near misses.
Definitely not a standard industry list … they had me until Gomez.
From the Chat:
8:37 I’m surprised Arenado didn’t make the top 10 for you?
Friday January 27, 2012 8:37 Jared Thatcher
8:38 @AdamWFoster: He was top 10 on my personal list. I think I’m more excited about him than most of the land.
More:
10:48 What does the future hold for Wilin Rosario? Are you down on him after last season?
Friday January 27, 2012 10:48 Ryan
10:49 @AdamWFoster: He’ll get plenty of chances to be a big-league regular. He’s going to stick at catcher and he has plus power for the position. He’ll have to refine his approach to be a consistent threat at the plate.
Mas ...
11:03 Nolan Arenado seems to have made giant leaps on lots of prospect charts, not just yours. Was it a matter of tools that everyone thought were there developing or was it more out of the blue? As a Rockies fan I’m delighted as a prospect watcher I’m concerned that he’s more flash in the pan and won’t sustain it this year.
Friday January 27, 2012 11:03 Dj
11:04 @AdamWFoster: Arenado got in great shape in 2011. He showed that he can play third base and he grow into a mature, muscular frame that projects for power while putting up elite contact rates and making huge progress with his plate approach.
I saw him in the spring and the fall. It was two different guys.
...
11:29 How quickly do you think Bettis can get up this year? Will he start in AA? can he be up before sept? Is there a reason he didnt see AA last year? thats a lot of innings for an advanced guy pitching well in A ball without a promotion
Friday January 27, 2012 11:29 Neal
11:30 Wes Yee: @WesYee: I’d expect him to start in AA. If he pitches like he did last year, he could be up in September.
...
11:30 If Darnell can crack the top 100 despite his age any particular thing that kept Tim Wheeler off? would you even bet a guy like Mahtook really has a better career than Wheeler?
Friday January 27, 2012 11:30 Neal
11:31 Wes Yee: @WesYee: Wheeler doesn’t do anything well. He doesn’t do anything poorly, but a fringe average hitter who plays fringe average defense isn’t a big time prospect.
Since when are 30 HRs considered fringe?
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by Charlie77 on Jan 27, 2012 6:43 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
See, he's not even good at being a fringe player...
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by Junction Rox on Jan 27, 2012 6:53 PM MST up reply actions
OT: Received my official severance letter today..
It outlines my 4 wks of pay with no insurance and states my last day will be Tuesday. Then as I’m cleaning out my desk, I get called into the SGM office and told they want to keep me, and move me to this crap job where everyone either quits or is fired within six months. I’m so confused, I don’t know what to do.
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by Charlie77 on Jan 27, 2012 5:08 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Oh man Charlie. That's rough.
Will you retain the same level of pay? Also, maybe you can squeeze a raise out of them….
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The pay is the same..
which makes the decision difficult. It’s almost worth it. I love my job, i don’t want this crap job.
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by Charlie77 on Jan 27, 2012 5:20 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Been there done that...
Nothing sucks more than sitting in a position that pays enough but you HATE. IT SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS.
Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...
Metrosexual: It's like being gay, but not being into guys.
Yes.
But, as a family guy like Charlie, job’s a job.
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True...
As my dad always said, “it’s called work for a reason. Work is what you do, so that you may do all the other things that you really want to do.”
But there is something to be said for enjoying your job. I never did until I got my current position…never knew it could be this good.
Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...
Metrosexual: It's like being gay, but not being into guys.
I agree with this completely,
but in his situation, I’d use the stopgap job to look for a job that I like. Job > No Job, especially right now.
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Take the job.
Come April, spend most of your time on PR Game Day Threads.
Problem solved.
2012 has to be a better year. Doesn't it?
I think I agree
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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I was going to start selling my photographs..
and I’m pretty good at restoring antique furniture which i could sell. That was the plan. My mind says take the job, and my heart says spend time with the kids and become an artist, lol.
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by Charlie77 on Jan 27, 2012 5:35 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Which is a great way
to endure a crap job. I was doing that when most of you met me!
Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...
Metrosexual: It's like being gay, but not being into guys.
Sounds like
You’ve got 4 weeks to find a job, my friend.
Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...
Metrosexual: It's like being gay, but not being into guys.
Or 6 months, if he takes the crap job...
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Jan 27, 2012 5:14 PM MST up reply actions
When you put it that way..
maybe i should take the package and unemployment. It’s good for 6 months.
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by Charlie77 on Jan 27, 2012 5:18 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Take the job.
And look for another in the meantime.
Unemployment sucks and insurance is expensive
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For sure
You should take the job for the insurance alone, and look for another job. Better to have it as a stopgap
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 5:21 PM MST up reply actions
Well I can always get CHP for my kids..
and use the power of prayer for myself.
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by Charlie77 on Jan 27, 2012 5:37 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
True...COBRA blows
especially if you have a family.
Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...
Metrosexual: It's like being gay, but not being into guys.
That would be my advice
6 months will pass pretty quickly, even in less than ideal surroundings. Insurance coverage is outrageous, and it is at least a paycheck. Just keep looking and use your sick leave for interview days. Good luck, Charlie!
Waiting for spring.
I like this idea.
Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...
Metrosexual: It's like being gay, but not being into guys.
Man, if I had gotten 4 wks (and no insurance) I would be so stressed out.
I don’t envy you. Good luck!
Just a side note...
On my screen, pom in lowercase looks like p-o-r-n
by SuperSC_GoRox on Jan 27, 2012 5:58 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
the OT is definitely coming back on Monday.
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Good timing...
because I’m definitely back!
Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...
Metrosexual: It's like being gay, but not being into guys.
Whoa...
not used to being high five’d around here…unless it’s AMart or Matt…
Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...
Metrosexual: It's like being gay, but not being into guys.
Everyone else only has four fingers.
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^6
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by Junction Rox on Jan 27, 2012 6:53 PM MST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOVGlDblEmA&feature=related
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by PetroCW on Jan 27, 2012 6:57 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
I’m very proud of this link, but it will go under appreciated.
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by PetroCW on Jan 27, 2012 7:39 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
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by Junction Rox on Jan 27, 2012 8:11 PM MST up reply actions
rec
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 27, 2012 11:50 PM MST up reply actions
Sorry.
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At least I wrote about the article for a bit.
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/glares at TG.
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I know, I know
For some reason I’m just an OT catalyst… I just can’t help it! I read the article, so there’s that!
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 27, 2012 6:18 PM MST up reply actions
OT: What time do groundskeepers wake up in the morning?
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by Charlie77 on Jan 27, 2012 6:44 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
I don;t know.
What time do groundskeepers wake up in the morning, Charlie?
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Why are you asking Charlie?
You should be asking Willie.
Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...
Metrosexual: It's like being gay, but not being into guys.
I thought that this was a setup for a joke.
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More just a question for Andrew.
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by Charlie77 on Jan 27, 2012 7:40 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Shame. We could have a vaudeville act.
The Smiling Charlies
It’d be wonderful.
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Until Charlie shows up to try to blackmail you years later...
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by Junction Rox on Jan 28, 2012 11:27 AM MST up reply actions
That's the Dancing Charlies.
The Smiling Charlies will be completely different.
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shaddup, I've been busy
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 27, 2012 11:51 PM MST up reply actions
blame bud selig
not our fault baseball isn’t year-round
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by papality on Jan 27, 2012 7:35 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
OT: I just got my 1st tattoo. Its on my right arm of my son Wyatt's name.
22 today, 21 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
Sweet
I’m planning on getting one eventually, if I can ever think of a good beer/brewing related idea.
Yea....I might as well get 2 more tonight while I am here.
Get my last name and my other son’s name done.
22 today, 21 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
it better be tiny
wouldn’t you pass out otherwise?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 27, 2012 8:38 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
how many times?
"Some guy on the net thinks I suck, and he should know - he's got his own blog." - Nick Hornby
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 28, 2012 6:59 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
That's awesome man!
^5
MOYER IS OUR SAVIOR
@DylanZable
by CentralCaliRox on Jan 27, 2012 8:31 PM MST up reply actions
Now, I just got the 2nd tat done. Its the name of my youngest (4 yr old) Spencer.
It hurt worse than the other one but it is well worth it.
I want to get a Rockies tattoo somewhere but I don’t know where to put it. I want to put it across my chest but it would take alot to do it.
22 today, 21 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
I have a friend with the A's logo on his chest
He just got the smaller hat logo, so it doesn’t take up too much space.
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