Tuesday Rockpile: Searching for an Ace Again
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 6:45 AM MST
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Let's face it. This Rockies team is hard to predict. Even when the roster was left mostly intact, the men wearing purple have been liable to produce a dozen-win swing in either direction from what was expected. David Schoenfield of ESPN SweetSpot perfectly predictably predicts the Rockies as the most difficult team to predict.
Of course, sports fans love to predict the outcomes of seasons, even though the unpredictability of sports is what draws us to watch in the first place. PECOTA is the most popular projection system for full-season standings, but that isn't out yet. Marcel projections are out though, and from that, Replacement Level Yankees Blog has averaged several simulations using Marcel. It projects a three-way NL West division tie between the Rockies, Diamondbacks and Giants, with the Rockies getting a slight edge. So, that's fun.
That would be a pleasant surprise. Todd Helton thinks the Rockies could surprise some people. To reach win Division Title #1 in Year #20, the Rockies will need some sort of resolution in their jumbled starting rotation. More importantly, to build a strong contending team in the Cargo/Tulo window, the Rockies will need to develop an ace to replace Ubaldo Jimenez. So just who is that going to be?
One good way to look at this is to see what status of prospects have turned into aces. John Sickels has been in the prospect game a long time, and SBNation is fortunate to have him. Yesterday, he did the work to look up the prospect grades Sickels gave the top 25 pitchers in MLB in 2011 by WAR. That's fewer than one per team, so that is a good barometer for "ace," or at least significant impact pitcher.
The results are interesting. Thirteen received an A-type grade at some point, which are rare in Sickels system. Ten peaked in the B's, including Roy Halladay, Dan Haren, Cliff Lee, Jered Weaver and Chris Carpenter. Two never exceeded a C+, those being CJ Wilson and Doug Fister.
If we are extremely generous, the Rockies have sixteen future ace candidates. In the table to the left are the sixteen young pitchers, complete with John Sickels' ratings in the past four years. A ^ indicates the pitcher graduated to the majors and was not rated, a - indicates the pitcher was either not drafted/signed or was off the radar. An HM is an honorable mention.
The road to potential acedom is bleak for Edwar Cabrera, Guillermo Moscoso Rob Scahill. They need the miraculous CJ Wilson/Doug Fister run, and neither of those pitchers accomplished their rise with their original team.
Tyler Chatwood, Albert Campos, Peter Tago, Tyler Matzek and Christian Friedrich all attained at least one B-type grade and one C-type grade, making their route akin to Cliff Lee, Daniel Hudson and Chris Carpenter.
Josh Outman received a B-, but he hasn't been a prospect for several years, so his MLB numbers are more reliable now, and those don't indicate sudden ace.
Tyler Anderson, Chad Bettis, Jhoulys Chacin, Alex White, Juan Nicasio and Joe Gardner are a legitimately interesting group that have maintained B-level status. If things go right for them as they did for Matt Harrison, Justin Masterson, Dan Haren and Ian Kennedy, they could make the jump to the top of the rotation.
All alone in his own category is Drew Pomeranz, owner of an A-. Since Minor League Ball went active with SBNation, Sickels has only given out three A-type grade to a Rockies pitcher - Jeff Francis (05), Franklin Morales (08) and now PomWonderful. Pomeranz' grade progression would seem to follow Madison Bumgarner, Matt Cain or Josh Beckett. Pomeranz is certainly ready to take hold of his potential.
Of course, this is all very slanted optimistic. B-type prospects turn into aces less than A-type prospects bust. Just check the two most decorated Rockies' pitching prospects in the last decade. Whoops. And ouch. What we really want to see from Sickels is the bust rate of A-grade pitching prospects and annual B-type arms. Fortunately, he's working on that for later in the week.
Comparisons from this Sickels study are hardly groundbreaking, nor conclusive, but they do provide context. No one is shocked to realize Drew Pomeranz is the Rockies' best chance to develop an ace. However, remember that the tier below has a decent shot, and there are six names that fill that tier. Considering the casualty rate of pitching prospects is so high, one can see Dan O'Dowd's strategy of hording young arms. This team needs a top flight starting pitcher, and if not Pomeranz, it will have to come from that tier.
Links after the jump.
NL West Links
Diamondbacks - Farm System Rankings | Project Prospect - So your reigning division champion also owns MLB's #3 ranked farm system, according to Adam Foster, Lincoln Hamilton et al.
Dodgers - Baseball Prospectus | Future Shock: Los Angeles Dodgers Top 11 Prospects - Kevin Goldstein's assessment of the Dodgers' farm make fans in Los Angeles blue. Nearly completely lacking in impact talent, the Rockies' much-maligned Tyler Matzek (whom Goldstein ranked 6th in the Rockies' system) would likely rank 2nd in the Dodgers' farm.
Padres - Today's Fun Fact - Hot Corner - Baseball Nation - Jeff Sullivan points out that in the past eight years, the Padres offense has scored 1.0 runs more per game on the road than at Petco, and allowed 0.9 runs or more on the road. For reference, in that span, the Rockies' offense is +1.6 runs/game and the pitching is +0.6 runs per game at Coors Field than on the road.
Giants - Don’t Panic, 2012 is going to be awesome " The Rainy Day Fund - The ousting of Bill Neukom has brought a new philosophy. A year removed from a World Series title, Giants fans were told San Francisco would not be spending this offseason, instead saving their money for a "rainy day fund." That phrase tortures Giants fans, and it spawned this blog, which explains just how San Francisco can win the division. It is worth your time.
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Geeked Out Links
Baseball Prospectus | Baseball ProGUESTus: The Knuckleball Mystique: Using PITCHf/x to Distinguish Perception from Reality If that title doesn't make you want to read, I'm not sure what will. Alan Nathan, Professor Emeritus of Physics at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, provides a guest spot for BPro. And guess what....just like the "rise-ball," the supposed "flutter" of a knuckleball does not exist.
Within the precision of the tracking data, knuckleball trajectories are just as smooth as those of ordinary pitches.
Fascinating.
In the old days, the game was more exciting - The Hardball Times - Max Marchi fuses geeky numbers with old fashioned sass to argue baseball is literally getting more boring. Tell that to 2011, Max. I like this game very much, and will believe it is the best game on earth until I have grandchildren, at which point the game will be ruined by young punks. That, sir, is law.
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Tough for any Pitching Prospect...
let alone Hitting Prospect, to get an ‘A’ Rating from Sickels. So, an A- isn’t that bad for Pomz. I would still LOVE to see the Rox keep Bettis in the Rotation in the Minors, then when he comes up to the Bigs the first time, pitch him out of the ‘Pen. After that, THEN decide if he’s in the Rotation, or the Bullpen.
As much as I loathe Tortilla Tossers from The Little School on the Prairie, I like this kid Bettis. Having a GOOD year in the Cali League won myself over. Teams can always find good Bullpen Arms…finding good Starting Pitchers is more difficult, imo. Just PRAY that one of either Matzek or Friedrich get their crap together this Season…or, they’re done.
Bettis will start in the minors as long as he is able ...
I don’t think they will move him to the ‘pen until they are certain he can’t start. I think he has a 50/50 chance to stick as a starter but the team seems to be a bit less optimistic.
If he can get a third pitch to MLB ready he likely sticks, if not he becomes a dominant reliever
I am great with the first and good with the second If he and Matzek become our Venters and Kimbrel I would do backflips
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its been said over and over
but odowd hoarding all the young arms will produce an ace. either by way of development or trade.
by roxintober on Jan 31, 2012 7:17 AM MST via Android app reply actions
I'm still worried about storing them in Colorado Springs.
Don’t want all those young arms to get dried out without a humidor to store them in.
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And I'm once again reminded why not only do the Rocks have to get their AAA affiliate out of the Springs, but out of the PCL altogether.
Imagine how much better off we’d be, except for travel-time on the minor-league shuttle, with an IL affiliate instead?
Having some experience pitching at altitude before the majors should be an asset
The problem is doing it at the current Security Service Field and with non-regulation baseballs.
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by RoarFrom112 on Jan 31, 2012 11:35 PM MST up reply actions
Edwar Cabrera will rule all of the land with his nasty repertoire
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@ 160lbs, it allows him to be ‘flexible’ and keep his arm nice and rubbery
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 31, 2012 7:44 AM MST up reply actions
I know this is toungue-in-cheek ...
But Cabrera is still viewed with scepticism because his best pitch is a change-up. which generates plenty of K’s at the lower levels but his other stuff likely doesn’t hold up against big league hitters.
Isn't that Chacin's best pitch, too?
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 31, 2012 9:06 AM MST up reply actions
those guys have other pitches, too
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 31, 2012 9:09 AM MST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
no they don’t…they just throw 82 MPH changeups, its a changeup from the norm of pitching
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 31, 2012 9:12 AM MST up reply actions
santana's elite years were fueled almost exclusively off his FB/CH combo
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and Lincecum
but unlike those guys Cabrera is just hitting AA as a 24yo an age where those other 3 had 20 MLB wins
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Edwar could have that many too, they just don’t want to rush him
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 31, 2012 9:13 AM MST up reply actions
that's not it
he signed very late. last season was his first exposure to full season ball. a midseason promotion is pretty uncommon for a pitcher who isn’t repeating a level already. they’ve been very aggressive with him compared to their track record
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 9:15 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Exactly pitchers don't have the aging curve that hitters do
if they can stay healthy plenty of pitchers have experienced their first real success in MLB in their late 20’s look at how many pitchers are effective in to their late 30s.
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Let me try this again
Edwar could have multiple CyYoungs by now, they just don’t want to rush him
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 31, 2012 9:47 AM MST up reply actions
So you're saying he could be a Hall of Famer by now, they just don't want to rush him?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 9:58 AM MST up reply actions
yup hes basically a combination of sandy koufax, randy johnson, and some other left hander and we don’t need him on our team so they are taking their time with him
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 31, 2012 10:02 AM MST up reply actions
your sense of humor is very strange
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it was all sarcasm, i figured the
Edwar could have that many too, they just don’t want to rush him
would have been sufficient
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 31, 2012 2:14 PM MST up reply actions
well yeah i got that it was sarcasm
just weird
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Edwar Cabrera is just plain nasty..
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Not sure it's very well phrased
Chacin can be the only answer, considering he’s already a TOR pitcher (by default or otherwise) and has a relatively small way to climb befor becoming “impact”. All the others are way less likely, simply by dint of where they are in their careers.
Which one has the higest ceiling? A different matter…
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fair criticism
it was a haphazard addition. chacin should probably be removed
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 7:26 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
If that was the case, I'd vote for Nicasio.
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I have a horrible feeling I'd vote for
None of the above :(
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Just don’t complain when Nicasio becomes the most feared pitcher in the NL West. (And I get struck by lightning twice on the same day).
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Thus the getting struck by lightning comment.
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what do you have against...
…biscuits?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 7:40 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
I don't think 'struck by lightning' being mentioned in a thread about Nicasio is a very good idea :).
Poor guy’s been thru enough freak injuries.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Jan 31, 2012 9:16 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
he had 41 innings of 2.88 FIP at Coors
those two games in NYY and Cle and his road stats would be similar. A 4/1 K/BB at coors also says good things about his future
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I left that option off on purpose
most likely is relative and doesn’t imply likelihood. I can’t remove chacin mobile, but I will when I get to the office
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 7:32 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Fair enough
In that case I also vote Nicasio. I’d love Alex White to surprise us all (and in a funny way I’m glad he had such a terrible start as it means expectations come ready-tempered).
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I wanted to vote Nicasio, too.
He wins at life. Took White, the safe route.
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What is the leage average for Fastball ? I remember last year while he was pitching we were all talking about how he really needed to develop secondary pitches more. He threw a Fastball 75 of the time last year. I hope we aren’t forgetting that Juan NiKKKKasio has a lot to develop yet as a pitcher.
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 31, 2012 7:31 AM MST up reply actions
league average last year was 57.8% @ 91.5mph
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Lots of good links today ATF
Nice job.
If the data in the Marcel projections page came true and the second Wild Card is in place, it would take days to untie that knot.
Just for fun…..
The Reds would win the Central (That’s the easy part)
The Phillies would win the East but it would be an exciting battle all the way to the end coming down to just one game.
Atlanta have the best record of any nondivsion winner in the NL but would now have to wait for the following mess to sort itself out……
With the Rockies, D’Backs and Giants all tied, head to head records would have to be used to determine who gets the inside track to the division. The team with the best record in head to head games would get a “bye” so to speak while the other two played an elimination game (The team with the better head to head record between those two would host it.) The loser of this head to head game would be done for the season while the winner would now host the team who had the “bye”. The winner of this second contest would be your NL West champion.
The loser however would not be eliminated. They would now have to travel to Atlanta to face the Braves. The winner of that game is your Wild Card team and the loser is done for the season.
(And if St. Louis had won just one more game, the scenario would be FAR crazier than this)
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 31, 2012 7:35 AM MST reply actions
I believe one of the questions they are still working through, is should there be a playoff for teams that tie for first in the division? Buster Olney tweeted about this a while back.
Here’s one what-if example in 5-team format: What if TEX and LAA finished at 97 wins, DET 94, TB 93, NYY 92. One-game playoff for TEX/LAA?
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 31, 2012 7:42 AM MST up reply actions
They would have to have some sort of playoff here because the teams tied in the West in this scenario
have a worse record than Atlanta.
In the Olney projection, it’s rather simple. Either play a one game playoff to guarantee a spot for TEX or LAA or just let head to head tie breakers determine who wins the division and who hosts NYY for the one game elimination contest.
At the very least, you need to have AT LEAST one extra game between the NL West teams here. Even if you use tiebreakers to determine the NL West winner, you still need to have the other two team play an elimination game to figure out who gets to play Atlanta – And doing it this way would seem really unfair to me since you’d be using tiebreakers to crown one team a division champion while forcing the other two to win two games just to grab the Wild Card when all three had the same record.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 31, 2012 7:54 AM MST up reply actions
now all of the sudden your looking at a few extra games just to get to the playoffs and crowning the division champ with tiebeakers just seems busch league to me
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 31, 2012 7:58 AM MST up reply actions
So just to be clear?
Do you want actual extra games used to sort all these messes out?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 31, 2012 8:01 AM MST up reply actions
Personally I'd like to see tiebreakers used to determine divisions if the two teams have a better record than the
other potential Wild Card team but use actual additional games if the two (or more) teams tied in the other divsion have an equal or worse record than the other potential Wild Card team.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 31, 2012 8:00 AM MST up reply actions
not sure if I follow the reasoning in that
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 31, 2012 8:01 AM MST up reply actions
It's designed to protect the teams with the better records
If you force the teams in the Olney scenario to play an extra game to determine the division, you have now forced the loser (who has a better record than NYY) to burn their bullpen and probably their ace in the first game. NYY can now bring a rested bullpen and probably their ace to the actual Play-In game and have an advantage.
In the other scenario, these team have a worse or equal record (in this case worse) record than the other potential Wild Card team so I’d rather see them fight for an extra game(s) to determine a playoff spot forcing both of these teams to burn their resources while the team with the better record rests.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 31, 2012 8:10 AM MST up reply actions
I can see some validity in that. I just think tiebreakers is a tough way to go. Even though a head to head matchup throughout the year on 18 games is pretty fair I guess
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 31, 2012 9:01 AM MST up reply actions
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 7:53 AM MST up reply actions
I liked the link about the knucleball but I think the author misses a big point...
We know about the optical illusions of certain pitches. He states that knucle ball trajectory only varies at most a tenth of an inch or two in a narrow tube of flight. That this varience is only one third of the diameter of the ball.
Having to apply the smooth arc of a round bat to such a varience to such a varience greatly decreases the possibility of getting “square contact” and missing the ball entirely. He also does not get into depth of pitches in the zone or the fact that Dickey unlike most knuckle ball pitchers has two different knucleballs with different speed and depth.
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While this is true
He also compares the variance of a knuckleball to a standard breaking pitch, and the difference is imperceptable, suggesting curveball varies off its “true” path just as much as a knuckler.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 10:01 AM MST up reply actions
Okay, hold on a sec
I’ve seen vanishingly few knuckleball pitches, but the ones I have seen clearly do move in the air. And there is hard evidence they’re much harder to ctach, despite being much slower. How can this assertion be true?
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Again it's optical illusion.
Imagine a WW2 submarine movie where the captain changes the magnification of the periscope. we percieve a sort of jump by the target. Watching a pitch from the batter’s, catcher’s, Umpire’s perspective: the four seam fast ball appears to “hop” as we change from long range to short range vision mechanically as the ball closes on us.
The knucle ball is not on a spin stabilized axis and appears to rotate around the axis of where the ball should be. This is exagerated as our eyes change focus from far to short. Most true breaking balls have less spin stabilization than a fastball but because of the spin appear more fixed in place because we are focused on the “dot” on the center of the ball.
When we look at a knuckle ball we are fixed on the seams not apearing to move but the ball seaming to not stay on axis in the peripheral. Again it’s optical illusion. Fastballs we see the seams as tumbling towards us.
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You may be right
It’s a truism that knucklers create many more passed balls though, why is that? Is the optical illusion you mention somehow fooling the catcher?
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I think what Oldfoagie says part of the answer
but I think what Nathan says at the end of the article is the key. He speculates that the apparent flutter is
the result of the randomness of movement, both in magnitude and direction, giving rise to the perception of erratic behavior.
So even though the knuckleball isn’t fluttering about during its flight toward the plate, its trajectory is unknown until it leaves the pitchers hand. Neither the pitcher nor the catcher knows where it will end up.
Pitch f/x confirms this theory.
Take a look at Wakefield’s data from 2011. He threw the knuckler about 87% of the time, fastball 8.7%, and curveball 3.4%. The fastball and curveball have fairly tight distributions of horizontal vs. vertical movement, while the knuckleball is all over the place.
Yes as much as the batter.
Also not being spin stabilized it doesn’t “Seat” in the glove as truely as other pitches. In combination not puting the web square and having sort of a lobbed rock as opposed to an aimed projectile leads to a lot of pitches bending out of the mit . That’s exculding his flat missing the pitch as he see’s the illusion of it closest and most exagerated
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This is rediculous..
that’s like saying a musketball isn’t as accurate as a rifle because it’s an optical illusion. The fastball and rifle are more accurate because they have a tight spin stabilizing the flight of the ball. Musketballs and knuckleballs flutter because their rotation is less stable causing unpredictable flightpaths.
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out of the hand/barrel. Once out they follow a specific path determined by the release.
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The stupid pitch is too slow
and screws with your eyes because it isn’t rotating. That is all.
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Those who voted for Jhoulys Chacin may now revote
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 7:52 AM MST reply actions
Doesn't give me the option to revote
:-(
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Same here.
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 31, 2012 7:56 AM MST up reply actions
Forgot about that
You can log out and vote, then log back in, I believe.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 7:58 AM MST up reply actions
Nope, oh well
Put me down for a vote for Juan then.
"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb
From the Game Excitement link
If the relievers usage hypothesis is sound, it’s hard to imagine an increase of specialization from where we stand right now, unless teams completely abandon the concept of starting rotation and select their pitchers inning by inning.
Sound like a discussion here yesterday? Purple Row’s on the cutting edge of baseball evolution.
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"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
"... One order of buffalo wings, please..." -Yokel, after July 30, 2011
I voted for an 8 man rotation here a couple weeks ago. Pretty much came to the conclusion baseball will not evolve that much, just wont happen, baseball stands on its history more than any other sport
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 31, 2012 9:02 AM MST up reply actions
I would love for Alex White to surprise
but to become a top of the rotation?? Had to go with Juan NiKKKKKKasio.
And here’s to Bettis being given a chance to be in the rotation. I am really excited to see the Arms race develop in ST and in the minors all year. With all the extra scouting going on in this blog and the access to video on our youngsters I feel much closer to plugged in to the guys not on the major league roster. Anderson, Cabrera, Maztek et al, are very exciting to follow. Its getting closer people!!!
The Big Purple Machine will make a believer outta you!
in 190 innings of MiLB ball White has a 2.31 ERA and 1.07 WHIP 7.3K 2.5BB Elite GB%
in 471.1 innings of MiLB ball Nicasio has a 3.40 ERA 1.207 WHIP 8.9K 2.0BB and decent GB% I love Juan but he does give up a lot more hits 8.9/9 vs White 7.2/9
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Nicasio may work better without having Wiggington in the infield.
Just sayin.
Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
He likely will but those H/9 numbers need to come down
I like his stuff and think he has a great future, but White is younger and has a Roy Halladay upside(build, arm, GB%, bulldog mentality)
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
You're not putting NiKKKKKasio in the "bulldog mentality" category?
Your other points are taken. But seriously.
Altar Boy in the Church of Santo Ubaldo
"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
"... One order of buffalo wings, please..." -Yokel, after July 30, 2011
Oh he does and if he can develop the change or curve to above average
Nicasio has RH Cliff Lee upside but he is 26 this year not saying he doesn’t continue to get better but he is probably approaching his ceiling which as a 2-4 starter is pretty great
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Also Alex White was the youngest player to play for the Rockies last year
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Whoops misread that Rosario and Pom are younger but not by much
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I was going to say
I was at a game where the starting battery was younger than me (and that’s kind of hard to do with my age)
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Oh I know
Just a minor clarification on the “bulldog mentality” thing is all. Nicasio had it before he kept pitching despite breaking his neck.
Altar Boy in the Church of Santo Ubaldo
"...buffalo chicken is a fine anti-depressant, after all." -UZ
"... One order of buffalo wings, please..." -Yokel, after July 30, 2011
white's delivery isn't quite as clean as halladay's
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Neither was Halladay’s when he was 22 after he imploded in 200 he came back here to Colorado and worked with Bus Campbell, who fixed him the same way he fixed Moyer, Mark Langston, Goose Gossage and a hundred others
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
true
halladay was epically bad, which is funny to think back on from 2012
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I knew him whe I was younger he was really tight with a friend of mine
I get to tell my kids that i have played with and against a HOF
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
really? that's awesome
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Yeah we used to play catch in Bret's(my buddy) basement
nobody called him Doc back then but he could really pop your mitt
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I voted Nicasio.
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Wanter to throw another Baseball Nation link in here.
This story from BtB is suggesting that teams that play in extreme hitter environments (like, say, Coors Field) have a harder time winning games over the course of a season because they have to rely on their bullpens more. Seems reasonable to me. Sadly, I don’t think there is any way to build a more neutral park in Denver….
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-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
Nerf bats
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 31, 2012 9:08 AM MST up reply actions
HumidomeTM
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 31, 2012 9:09 AM MST up reply actions
I guess just play in the botanical gardens
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 31, 2012 9:10 AM MST up reply actions
“A lot of people have told me this, I’m not just making this up. When the Rockies are batting in the later innings, the staff puts sand on the rhododendrons, which has the effect of limiting the amount of moisture they can put in the air. I really think this is something that needs to be monitored by MLB.” —Jon Miller
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 31, 2012 9:20 AM MST up reply actions 8 recs
'F'n juiced rhododenrons' said Timmy.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Jan 31, 2012 9:23 AM MST up reply actions 8 recs
“F’n flowers!”-Timmeh Lincecum
"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
by RdRnnr on Jan 31, 2012 9:26 AM MST up reply actions 6 recs
They aren't growing the right stuff
In the Botanic Gardens to make Timmeh happy
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 31, 2012 9:27 AM MST up reply actions 9 recs
Recs for everyone
all the tears from laughter are all of y’alls.
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Dudes, this needs to be green.
You all have until 4:20.
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
by Since1993 on Jan 31, 2012 9:48 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
"My Fastball just doesn't get as high as it usually does"
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
by waterboy31321 on Jan 31, 2012 9:49 AM MST up reply actions
Can we quickly thin the atmosphere before our at-bats?
"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
the way to counter that is to just have your pitchers pitch through more tough innings and accept the fact they might let up more runs and have faith that your bats can counter the higher scores
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 31, 2012 9:09 AM MST up reply actions
Well, sort of.
The problem is that pitching through more tough innings tends to wear the pitchers out faster, leading to more ineffectiveness and injury. Teams that play in pitchers’ parks don’t have this extra wear on pitchers, and there isn’t a corresponding effect for hitters. As far as I can see, the only way to fight this is to have a large number of decent by expendable relievers. Bullpen construction is definitely an important factor for a winning Rockies team.
Anyone else having the reply link take them to the top of the page?
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 31, 2012 9:08 AM MST reply actions
Eff your broken reply link.
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by Franchise26 on Jan 31, 2012 9:10 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
if it persists, shoot an email to
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 31, 2012 9:11 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
closed and came back and seems to work now.
Support is usually good but I emailed them about problems with the app and never heard back.
Uninstalled and reinstalled the app and that kind of helped, but not all the way.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 31, 2012 9:12 AM MST up reply actions
also
with how squirrely my computer has been lately, I’m pretty sure most problems are on my end.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 31, 2012 9:15 AM MST up reply actions
I hate W/L record for SP
Chacin has the franchise record for ERA for pitchers with 50+ starts at 3.52 but has a 20-26 Record
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Yes
but like doll hairs, it’s not worth nothing.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 31, 2012 9:51 AM MST up reply actions
I read a pretty convincing article about pitcher wins over time, though.
Was related to the HOF and may have been in defence of Bert Blyleven, I’m sorta OK with ERA as a snapshot (and I’m used to it) but an trending toward WHIP as my stat of choice – which also is not fielding independent, I know.
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
Nor park adjusted
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 9:59 AM MST up reply actions
Well, any stat of this kind will become more accurate as time goes by
To a degree of accuracy – not taking into account park factors and other variables. Pitching wins are fatally flawed if a player spends the majority of his career at either a strong or a weak hitting team, because they will simply win more games if the team does, and vice versa.
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The perfect stat...
will ever elude us.
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
I like DIPS theory but there is a Tome Glavine sized hole you can drive a semi through
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
ERA becomes reliable over a career
since it almost always completely stabilizes with FIP
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or if not completely,
then margin of error
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/tounge in cheek
yah because the whole goal of the game is totally to not win…
Sabre-rattlers begin
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by El Paso Jeff on Jan 31, 2012 12:10 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I couldn't care less about winning or losing.
I just want my team to always score more runs than they allow.
Ahem,
I believe you meant SABR-rattlers
by Purple Row Troll on Jan 31, 2012 12:13 PM MST up reply actions
patoato/patatoe
A Fish/ A Mart
purple row/ DPO commenters
Totally the same——AHHHHHH crap. Ban hammered
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by El Paso Jeff on Jan 31, 2012 12:17 PM MST up reply actions
I voted Nicasio
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Pitchers and catchers report in 18 days....YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Roxman4ever on Jan 31, 2012 9:19 AM MST reply actions 5 recs
Giggity
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
Luftfeuchtigkeitsregler über alles.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Jan 31, 2012 9:55 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
oh f yeah
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Even when the ASIMOS play the Watsons in the 2035 WS...
baseball will still be exciting. I miss the players of my youth and love the old stories about guys pitching both ends of a doubleheader, the players of today are so much fun to watch, defense is just so brilliant these days.
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
This link is bookmark worthy
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"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 10:19 AM MST reply actions
I need to order their Prospect Guide. I usually get that and the Baseball Prospectus annual delivered on the same day, which has come to be known as Baseball Dork Christmas.
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by Franchise26 on Jan 31, 2012 10:49 AM MST up reply actions
Nice article about Diamondbacks CEO Derrick Hall. Battling cancer and still very active with the team. Near the end there’s a bit about his good friend Keli McGregor.
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by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 31, 2012 10:23 AM MST reply actions
Okay this part made me cry. Not kidding
McGregor isn’t forgotten. When the executives gather for a meal they leave one chair open at the table. Fortunately, it appears they won’t need to leave a second chair vacant any time soon.
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"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 11:07 AM MST reply actions
Link fail. Wouldn't let me on
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by Roxman4ever on Jan 31, 2012 11:14 AM MST up reply actions
Try adding a
‘bas’ to the front of the link
thanks
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by Roxman4ever on Jan 31, 2012 11:19 AM MST up reply actions
oops
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"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 11:24 AM MST up reply actions
no worries --
you’re killin it on the links today
I'm curious what, if anything, the Rockies are doing in this area.
Hiring internal SABR staff like several teams, contracting with outside data providers like others?
Or are they sitting back & relying on old-fashioned scouting to evaluate players and Jim Tracy’s standard righty-lefty matchupz instincts for in-game decisions?
It would be nice to see Renck or someone take a real objective look at the details of what the team is, or isn’t, doing in this area.
Based on their statements regarding Tracy
and their new shift away from sabermetrically favored players to those with good contact and clubhouse skillz, I’m guessing it’s more of the second.
I used to work with a programmer who did video scouting
He worked for two different teams in two years. Both years they won a WS.
by Purple Row Troll on Jan 31, 2012 12:11 PM MST up reply actions
It's not that video scouting is unique
It’s the information his techniques derived from it that were “special”
by Purple Row Troll on Jan 31, 2012 12:12 PM MST up reply actions
That's cool.
Sometimes I think it would be fun to work for the Rockies. However, there’s only so much aerodynamics work to be done in baseball.
I wonder if there is a job with my special skills needed in the org.
I don’t know how making synthetic prototypes would help them though.
Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
Maybe you should work with Mike Marschall on fluidity and flows in connection with his kiensology (sp?)
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
Well, once the pitcher releases the ball
the aerodynamics are pretty straight forward. If you know its velocity and spin, you know what the ball will do. I think the more applicable work for Marshall would be to use a sophisticated camera system like the Pitch f/x ones to study the effects of kinesiology on pitch velocity and spin.
You need to think in terms of grip an seam goeometry combined with motion/release etc, for optimal aero performance/ location.
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
Renck said on Twitter that SABR stats are part of the process but not the primary concern
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
In other words they are dealing with people and not numbers.
You may be able to model people mathmaticly; but people have a surprising ability to defy numbers.
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
Well yeah you look at Matt Holliday's MiLB numbers
or Jose Bautista’s numbers and they don’t tell you what scouts will tell you that this is a powerful hitter waiting to “get it”
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
They fail at a much greater rate than numbers would suggest too.
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
True but we are getting to the point where we can identify how
relative to competition a Hitter’s stats will project going forward, that guys with Matt Kemps A level line typically will never “get it”
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matt kemp had an .829 OPS in A ball as a 19 year old
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Matt Kemp had a 24/100 BB/K in A ball
not saying he didn’t hit just that a guy with that kind of K%/BB% is unlikely to continue to hit, Kemp has overcome that to post a 10.7BB% most don’t.
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The responses ranged from "1-2" to "5-10." The average was approximately three wins. That seems reasonable, if not conservative, given how many crucial managerial decisions come in high-leverage spots. It’s generally accepted that a manager can’t make a bad team good or a good one bad, and that’s probably true. But three wins is an awful lot. Three wins cost a fortune on the free agent market—much more than any manager might hope to make. And adding these three wins wouldn’t require any elusive discovery—finally figuring out defense, say, or learning how to keep pitchers healthy. These three wins are achievable with what we already know.
After our 2009 season, I totally believe there are special circumstances where the manager (or who isn’t the manager) means something. But also that those circumstances are fairly rare.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
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Interesting article from SI
I like the idea of statistically-derived “King of Baseball,” and the methodology used here makes sense to me. Cool read.
Just a small town kid who thinks Coors Field on a sunny summer Saturday night is the best place to be on this or any other plane of existence. When a late-inning Todd Helton go-ahead homerun is added to this scenario, my brain melts.
I dont know if anyone has posted this.
Jersey numbers for new Rockies players: Michael Cuddyer (3), Casey Blake (7), DJ LeMahieu (9), Marco Scutaro (19), Tyler Colvin (21), Tyler Chatwood (33), Jamie Hoffman (39), Jamie Moyer (50), Zach Putnam (54), Ramon Hernandez (55), Guillermo Moscoso (56), Josh Outman (88) Rockies number changes: Alex White (43 to 6), Drew Pomeranz (47 to 13), Jordan Pacheco (58 to 22), Wilin Rosario (12 to 20), Josh Roenicke (56 to 30)
18 today, 17 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
Oh look. White is going to a single digit number
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by Roxman4ever on Jan 31, 2012 11:43 AM MST up reply actions
yeah, that news came out a week ago
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 11:51 AM MST up reply actions
I was busy in Vegas last week.
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by Roxman4ever on Jan 31, 2012 11:51 AM MST up reply actions
Tyler Chatwood (33)
blasphemy
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
Luftfeuchtigkeitsregler über alles.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Jan 31, 2012 12:13 PM MST up reply actions
Riff Ree
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Roy Roy WeeRoy
My name-a Borat.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 31, 2012 12:30 PM MST up reply actions
oh, i thought it was a halladay joke
whoops
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With the Alex White and Jordan Pacheco changes, then Tommy Field and Hector Gomez must have received new numbers too
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by Greg Stanwood on Jan 31, 2012 1:25 PM MST up reply actions
Minor League Ball
has their preseason HS Top 100 out:“http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/1/31/2758269/pre-season-high-school-top-100-draft-prospects”
I’d rather take an advanced college bat with our first round selection, but there are definitely some guys you can dream on in this list.
Also, Harvard Westlake HS has two pitchers in their rotation that’ll probably be Top 15 ish picks in the draft…that’s ridiculous…
Two HS top 5 pitchers.
Perhaps replacing Bauer and Cole at UCLA?
Dang.
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by CentralCaliRox on Jan 31, 2012 12:10 PM MST up reply actions
Seeing some good stuff on Stryker Trahan. He’s a C now, but I suppose could play there or 1b (he’s also played 3b)…
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plus his name is awesome
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Most Predictable Quote of All-Time.
“I was very impressed with what I saw,” manager Jim Tracy said, "but what can he become? He has a chance to become pretty special
Context: Tracy on Pom.
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@DylanZable
by CentralCaliRox on Jan 31, 2012 12:09 PM MST reply actions
What a special thing for Tracy to say.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 31, 2012 12:30 PM MST up reply actions
He's a very special guy.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Jan 31, 2012 12:34 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
That's a disturbing quote on porn
What does he think of Pomeranz
"Some guy on the net thinks I suck, and he should know - he's got his own blog." - Nick Hornby
"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 31, 2012 12:35 PM MST up reply actions
i'm getting very excited to see pomeranz in action this year
hoping he takes the league by the horns and never lets go
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The velocity last year kind of surprised me.
Sat 88-89 mostly. That could be because of the appendectomy and time off.
MOYER IS OUR SAVIOR
@DylanZable
by CentralCaliRox on Jan 31, 2012 12:19 PM MST up reply actions
yeah, that's the story
should cruise around 92-93 when healthy
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Wasn't he 95ish during ST last year?
When he was ridiculously dominant.
If he gets the cut/tailing action at that kind of velocity, we do have an ace on our hands.
MOYER IS OUR SAVIOR
@DylanZable
by CentralCaliRox on Jan 31, 2012 12:20 PM MST up reply actions
I think I’m more excited to see White. I have expectations for Pom to be decent if not something better, but White? He’s been getting sold short big time and has a chance to really wow or really disappoint.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
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Money Ball
That movie is a bit miss representative. After watching the movie a lot of people probably think the reason the A’s made the playoffs in 2002 was the tweaks to the line up to get more OBP, but it was really Zito, Mulder and Hudson.
I’m thinking Chacin, Nicasio and Pomeraz could be our big 3, its going to be interesting and really fun to see especially the latter 2 pitch this season
Is this Ryan Braun's wife?
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by Roxman4ever on Jan 31, 2012 12:38 PM MST up reply actions
boom, roasted
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I saw her making out with Miss Demeanor
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I have Miss Givings about where this is headed...
(and I’m not talking about the OT thread…)
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Jan 31, 2012 12:37 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe you should talk to Miss Understood
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I hear she's sister to Miss Identification?
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
I'll go ask Miss Behavior
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
This would be the most interesting
beauty pageant EVER
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
I think the winner would be a
Miss Terry.
Die-hard Rockies fan since seven years after Jamie Moyer's MLB debut.
Poo-Bah of the San Diego Padres in the Purple Row OOTP League.
@Paul_Franz
My blerg
The last place finisher
will definitely be Miss Erable
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Jan 31, 2012 5:38 PM MST up reply actions
tejada and chavez
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I find it interesting so many people like Nicasio's upside more than say.. Alex White's.
Maybe a bit of that is because of the broken neck and Nicasio’s battle thereafter. But I saw a guy who relied way too much on his fastball last year, with underwhelming offspeed stuff. He will need to improve the offspeed greatly if we hope he can become an ace, but I see more of a 3-ish starter going into the future.
Bettis and White have higher upside due to their offspeed stuff. Really excited to see how White performs this year being 100% healthy.
MOYER IS OUR SAVIOR
@DylanZable
by CentralCaliRox on Jan 31, 2012 12:33 PM MST reply actions
yeah i voted bettis
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Same
MOYER IS OUR SAVIOR
@DylanZable
by CentralCaliRox on Jan 31, 2012 12:35 PM MST up reply actions
Watching them last year
I thought they were awfully similar. Sinker guys with shaky offspeed stuff and control issues. I think they are both exceptionally promising but they have a lot of fine-tuning to do.
I do too.
Starting to salivate thinking about this rotation’s future. Could be absolutely lethal.
2012 is going to be exciting…
MOYER IS OUR SAVIOR
@DylanZable
by CentralCaliRox on Jan 31, 2012 12:48 PM MST up reply actions
For 2013 and beyond
We’re going to be good, if not downright nasty – it’s just a matter of JDLR and Nicasio recovering, and finding the diamonds in this acquire all the arms movement.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 31, 2012 12:51 PM MST up reply actions
JDLR won't be here past 2014 hopefully
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Correct
He’s become the veteran bridge of the rotation – but for 2013 (and maybe 2014) I think he’ll be just dirty. But for 2012 he’s as much of a question mark as any of our rookies.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 31, 2012 12:54 PM MST up reply actions
I would like him to pitch well excercise his option
then have us exercise our option and trade him for value
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Yes
If he pitches to the level he’s capable of, he’s going to be a VERY valuable commodity when his contract’s up.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 31, 2012 1:03 PM MST up reply actions
I mean, I can totally see why people aren't taking the Rockies
Every single starting pitcher in any projected rotation for 2012 has major question marks. But that’s what makes it so exciting for me, the unpredictability.
MOYER IS OUR SAVIOR
@DylanZable
by CentralCaliRox on Jan 31, 2012 12:54 PM MST up reply actions
Oh I'm thrilled
Because if we have a mediocre season, it’s just positioning for a period of (hopeful) dominance. If we rock and roll, it’ll be so much fun.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 31, 2012 12:55 PM MST up reply actions
i tried to say that earlier as well, he threw his fastball 75% of the time
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
by waterboy31321 on Jan 31, 2012 2:16 PM MST up reply actions
I'm going to be at Stoney's on Lincoln between 11th and 12th for one dollar "Street" tacos in twenty minutes for lunch if anybody is interested.
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
If they were really "Street Tacos" they would be $5 apiece and would alternate wildly
between excellent and bad and while on the whole you would enjoy them you would always feel a bit queasy knowing they were on their way.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
by TomCat009 on Jan 31, 2012 12:51 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I was thinking Huston Street Tacos
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Hey hey
I’ve got your Huston Street Tacos here.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 31, 2012 1:03 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm at Stoney's and enjoying the tacos (which are different and very good) and washing them down with a Shriner Bock.
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
what is in a "street" taco?
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pork lambonions black beans ghost peppers and jalapenos. also queso fresco
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
sounds pretty good
not a jalapeno guy though
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You can ask for a deletion ; they are made to order and the bock goes so good with it.
too bad they only do this deal on tuesday afternoons.
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
Im never eating one
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Much better than that sour grape juice most churches use.
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
A beer you must try
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
*Shiner
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I'm glad we aren't like this and we had better never be like this
http://colorado.rockies.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=20075689&c_id=col
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But, some of them do field like someone who is no longer with the team.
18 today, 17 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
by Roxman4ever on Jan 31, 2012 12:59 PM MST up reply actions
I didn't want to say any names because I don't want to see his face.
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UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want to go puke now.
18 today, 17 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
for now
they have asexual reproduction, and could be all over PR within hours
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and someone will do it. I know it
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my god man
look what you’ve begun
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Are you familiar with the game of life?
Any live cell with fewer than two live neighbours dies, as if caused by under-population.
Any live cell with two or three live neighbours lives on to the next generation.
Any live cell with more than three live neighbours dies, as if by overcrowding.
Any dead cell with exactly three live neighbours becomes a live cell, as if by reproduction.
I need to create a game of life instance using wiggy faces.
Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
And I though I was a sick individual
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
then they will all disappear?
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Hopefully they will evolve to a higher lifeform
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
and learn how to play baseball
18 today, 17 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
Double band...
oh my god… it’s so beautiful!
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 31, 2012 1:36 PM MST up reply actions
i hope SOPA passes right now and they get you
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EY2 at 2B and Wiggy in RF
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I have a new goal in life
To be featured in a future iteration of that video.
Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
I would love to it also but its kind of expensive
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Yes. I hope to be able to affoard it in about 10-15 years.
Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
and take that Wiggy face with you. LOL.
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I would make the blooper reel all my own.
18 today, 17 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
I'm expecting a Bandoleer of Carrots.
Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
I was able to buy a bag of random crap on the last wootoff.
It will contain random crap. But the term bag of crap has been banned from woot.com, so bandolier of carrots has become a common synonym.
Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
Eh' What's up Doc?
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
I got a rare 1996
Todd Helton Topps boosters card today
"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." ~Tallulah Bankhead
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~Greg, age 8
Assistant GM of the PRMLB Cincinnati Reds
JFK
Ejax on a 1 year deal? yes please
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I would do a 1 yr deal for him
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He definitely won't come to Colorado.
I’m pretty sure he’s been terrible here. Him coming here on a one-year deal to set his market for next season? uhhh not ha’ning.
MOYER IS OUR SAVIOR
@DylanZable
by CentralCaliRox on Jan 31, 2012 1:22 PM MST up reply actions
he's not going to look good next season anyway
way deeper FA SP class
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and it seems like he wants to go to a winning club, which is why he is willing to take a one year deal in the first place.
MOYER IS OUR SAVIOR
@DylanZable
by CentralCaliRox on Jan 31, 2012 1:24 PM MST up reply actions
crosses arms
so. Were not a winning team?
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by Roxman4ever on Jan 31, 2012 4:17 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
we could very well be a "winning" team this year, i.e. over .500
but we’re definitely not a team with a culture or history of winning
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interesting
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2012/1/31/2760926/trends-in-negative-war-players-since-2002
not that i’m a part of that group, but this would be the kind of thing that DOD haters should bookmark
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I find it odd that the Nationals and Expos are seperate entities.
Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
I'm going to spring training this year!
Is anyone else going to be there the last week?
Score a goal. Unit. Basket. Go squadron! Do good! Defeat the opponents soundly in this...skirmish.
I think I'm getting there the 25th
Unless we drive through the night.
Score a goal. Unit. Basket. Go squadron! Do good! Defeat the opponents soundly in this...skirmish.
eeeee, yes.
Check your Facebook!
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"The highest form of human excellence is to question oneself and others." - Socrates
~WolfMarauder
by Greg Stanwood on Jan 31, 2012 7:26 PM MST up reply actions
Me too!! maybe
Although i haven’t announced it on facebook. I’m currently unemployed so I’ll need to budget properly and hope I’m not hired by then. Although I was half considering taking temp jobs in Phoenix during March so I can stay there longer.
Colorado Rockies Players on Twitter
"Baseball is dull only to dull minds." ~ Red Barber
PRMLB - Phillies
you all go the year I don't
"Some guy on the net thinks I suck, and he should know - he's got his own blog." - Nick Hornby
"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 1, 2012 8:25 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
I'm not going this year either Fish
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"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~Greg, age 8
Assistant GM of the PRMLB Cincinnati Reds
JFK
I have a question.
Where does Apodaca rate as a pitching coach? Is he a guy that would excel with training young pitchers?
Hear nothing but good things about Apodaca.
MOYER IS OUR SAVIOR
@DylanZable
by CentralCaliRox on Jan 31, 2012 3:29 PM MST up reply actions
I thought it was
Caca Pod
Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...
Metrosexual: It's like being gay, but not being into guys.
Apodaca probably has the most thankless job in baseball
but he does it with a lot of brains and a lot of passion. I get the sense that it really kills him when one of his guys has a bad outing, and I think that’s something you want in a coach. My only gripe with Apodaca is that I feel he’s overly obsessed with keeping everything at the knees. Understandable given the home park, but your pitchers still need to use the whole strike zone if they are going to keep hitters off-balance. Overall, however, I think Apodaca brings a lot more positives to the club than negatives.
by Northsider1964 on Jan 31, 2012 9:51 PM MST up reply actions
Also:
Last night’s Rockies Primetime is up on rockiesradionetwork.com
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 31, 2012 3:49 PM MST reply actions
Chris Nelson gets interviewed...
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Jan 31, 2012 4:09 PM MST up reply actions
yeah, it's nice to hear someone i guess
but wow is it a boring interview
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my fake chris nelson interview
me: remember that time you stole home?
CN: yeah, that was awesome
me: so, yeah, anything else worth mentioning
CN: no really, I guess
me: ok, well, thanks, bye
Is it April yet?
cont.
me: Do you feel imprisoned or repressed?
CN: Well, I don’t feel very special here.
me: If you could pick three words to describe yourself, what would they be?
CN: Well, I…uh
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"Baseball is dull only to dull minds." ~ Red Barber
PRMLB - Phillies
pomeranz will be on next week
excited for that
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yahoo
this is my 1st mobile comment.
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by Roxman4ever on Jan 31, 2012 4:15 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Matzek.
Sure hope he pitches well, this year. When he comes from a lower arm slot, he looks less athletic, over rotates, trying too hard to find ‘the right motion’, thinking way too much and looking less than average. When he pitches like he did in high school, he comes over the top, his hips go forward, and he drills pitches to the plate, looking more Kershaw and less Bohanan.
...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!
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that would be the reason he left the organization last year, to figure out his arm slots and pitch better. He’s still young but this year is a key for him.
"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." ~Tallulah Bankhead
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~Greg, age 8
Assistant GM of the PRMLB Cincinnati Reds
JFK
JFK's Quote of the Day:
“In the split second from the time the ball leaves the pitcher’s hand until it reaches the plate you have to think about your stride, your hip action, your wrist action, determine how much, if any the ball is going to break and then decide whether to swing at it.” ~Duke Snider The Sporting News (November 19, 1952)
"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." ~Tallulah Bankhead
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~Greg, age 8
Assistant GM of the PRMLB Cincinnati Reds
JFK
Best Radio Commercial on 850 KOA (right now anyway)
Paraphrased:
“And now for the traffic report from Phoenix. Well, traffic’s getting heavy out here and we’re expecting a lot of hit and runs with the Rockies coming to town soon.”
IT’S ALMOST BASEBALL SEASON FOLKS!!!!!!
"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." ~Tallulah Bankhead
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~Greg, age 8
Assistant GM of the PRMLB Cincinnati Reds
JFK
by jrockies on Jan 31, 2012 6:16 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
The Arizona Diamondbacks
have agreed to terms with both Miguel Montero ($5.9 million) and Ryan Roberts ($2 million). Once Craig Breslow, the only arbitration eligible player they have left agrees to terms, their payroll should rise north of $70 million and end up somewhere between a 25% and 30% higher than it was in 2011. This should also bring them winthin just a a few million $ of the Rockies payroll (5 to 8 million would be my rough estimate right now).
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 31, 2012 7:09 PM MST reply actions
Thomas Harding
has an article on the progress of JDLR’s road back to the mound.
So far, so good.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Jan 31, 2012 8:24 PM MST reply actions
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