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What were the right questions to ask in the 2011/2012 off season and did the Rockies ask them? Did they answer them?
Question #1: Why can't you get a second baseman that's competent at the plate?
Rockies Q#1 Answer: Well... we don't know if there's anything necessarily wrong with going into the season with either D.J. LeMahieu or Chris Nelson, they can't be worse than what we had last year.
Q#1 Follow-up: Are you serious? You can't be serious.
Rockies Q#1 Follow-up Answer: Well, it's not like teams are giving away competent 2B's for AAAA pitchers. Wait, hold on we have another call.., Boston, who do we know in Boston?
Question #2: Ian Stewart was a disaster last season, how long do we have to wait until Nolan Arenado's ready?
Rockies Q#2 Answer: Well, Arenado's still young and it takes time for prospects to develop. That's why we're looking to trade for an interim impact player at the position like David Wright, because it might be another couple seasons before the kid is ready. If he was going to be ready to be a meaningful contributor in 2012 we'd look for a more temporary solution there, like Melvin Mora or Casey Blake or something.
Question #3: While the Troy Tulowitzki/Carlos Gonzalez heart of the order were fine in 2011, the Rockies were among the NL's least effective teams when it came to the sixth and seventh slots in the lineup. What are you doing to lengthen the offense this year and take some of the pressure off the two superstars?
Rockies Q#3 Answer: It looks like the free agents we like for that are out of our price range as we'd rather focus the money we have to spend on pitching.
Question #4: So you know of free agent pitchers that would be willing to sign and pitch in Coors Field? '
Rockies Q#4 Answer: Yes, we think we have a chance with Hiroki Kuroda, err... Roy Oswalt, or uh maybe Edwi... Jamie Moyer. Can we go back to question #3? We're going to sign Michael Cuddyer.
Q#3 and Q#4 Follow-up: Wait, Jamie Moyer's dead isn't he, and isn't Cuddyer going to be overpaid?
Rockies Q#3 and Q#4 Follow-up Answer: No, he's alive. And relative to CEO's and union bosses, Cuddyer's pay is just fine.
Question #5: Moyer doesn't seem to be much of an answer to the team's rotation instability, do you have any other solutions?
Rockies Q#5 Answer: We're going to look to trade for a competent veteran starter swing man like Wandy Rodriguez Kevin Slowey to eat innings. Just a sec, I got a text from Dan Duquette I have to return as I think it's the details on our annual GM's Named Dan cruise.
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Some GM's are born great, some die great, and some have kismet thrust upon them. The Rockies seemed to go into the off-season with a plan that in my opinion was almost certainly not going to work, but come out of it with one that just might. While some prognosticators see a lineup that's old, I see one that's transitioning to a young, competitive core. With the trade for Jeremy Guthrie and the signing of Moyer, the rotation actually bears a similar feel. I don't know what to expect for 2012, as a lot of the team's success will depend on the unpredicatable maturation of inexperienced players, but it should be exciting to watch.
Troy Renck doesn't see the Rockies as winning the division this season, but then again, he didn't have the Diamondbacks on top last year. To answer my initial question to the post, much like the D-backs did prior to 2011, I think the Rockies off-season efforts did, in fact, concentrate on areas of the team that were holding them back. The D-backs did get a couple of their more promising young players to mature for 2011, however, and again that's going to be the primary question facing the Rockies in 2012.
Patrick Saunders goes position by position over the Rockies revamp.
Speaking of the Rockies young players, the Tulsa World Drillers preview isn't entirely sure that Nolan Arenado will be there this season. Obviously neither am I. I think the safest bet is that Arenado won't be there at the end of the season, with everything else in a bit of a gray area.
Jayson Stark's off-season survey has a little bit of good buzz for the Rockies, their trades for Marco Scutaro and Guthrie drew attention, as does the signing of Jamie Moyer.
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This works for today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76RrdwElnTU
2 today, 1 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
Hope Springs Eternal..
RG, good blog post. You make it actually sound like the Rockies have hope this year, thanks to the front office answering most of the pressing offseason questions. While some might see this as a homer blogger spinning happy talk this time of year, I choose to accept the optimism, however seasonal it might be. At least until the first 8 game losing streak, that is. ;)
And if we win the division for the first time in our 20th season, I will look back to your post of today as the prescient precursor to it all.
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by BostonTransplant on Feb 19, 2012 9:01 AM MST reply actions
Sounds like a dentist's convention to me.
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
Sounds like the premise of a bad sci-fi movie to me.
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by glaucophane on Feb 19, 2012 10:33 AM MST up reply actions
Here comes Nero and the Nirada with the red matter!
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"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
YES!
Its that time of year. Its time for pitchers and catchers to report for Spring Training. All the fields have new grass, sprinklers have been ran, the sun is rising higher and higher in the sky so our favorite sport can begin another fantastic year of baseball. Its the day I’ve been waiting for since the last out of the 2011 World Series. Granted, its not the real thing but it shows that life is starting to get back to normal. It shows the doldrums of winter are subsiding and the boys of summer are returning from hibernation. There is nothing truly better than the sound of balls popping catchers gloves, and in a few days, the sound of balls hitting wood bats. This is one of the few times of the year that the fans can interact with the players and coaches. Spring Training has arrived and it is time to PLAY BALL!
2 today, 1 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
Yay yay yay yay
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by prettyinpurple on Feb 19, 2012 9:19 AM MST via Android app reply actions 1 recs
I should be more excited about this day
Weird.
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by Muzia on Feb 19, 2012 9:33 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
We might get some photos tomorrow.
I remember our first image of Spring Training 2011 was that awesome Greg Reynolds silhouette in front of the sprinklers. But that’s about all.
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by Greg Stanwood on Feb 19, 2012 10:20 AM MST up reply actions
little did we know
what a harbinger of things to come that would be
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Maybe this is why I'm not getting excited like I was last year
/2011’d again
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by glaucophane on Feb 19, 2012 6:18 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Other than the Cuddyer signing
All the Rockies moves came on short term deals, so I am not too concerned about the age thing. I like DOD’s approach to this off season a lot, he found a way to build a team that has a chance to compete and did so in a way that allowed this to still be a bridge season until the younger guys prove their readiness.
New stuff coming to RockiesRoster later today.
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I read this and thought "whoa, a last-minute trade?"
#springtrainingforeverybody
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by glaucophane on Feb 19, 2012 10:18 AM MST up reply actions
Love the new look to the webpage.
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
So....pitchers and catchers eh?
the so called “Based Ball” is afoot?
Nuggets' commin'...best recognize (Fernandez/Manimal...oop of the year)
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by Jeffrey Morton on Feb 19, 2012 10:44 AM MST reply actions
No that would be footed ball
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Another of Renck's articles in the Post today listed "in-game strategy" as Tracy's strength
I thought that was funny. It’s a strength relative to what? Line-up construction? Wood working? Giving birth to a baby?
http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_19996981
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I love Troy...but...I suppose the Post doesn't pay him to be critical of the Rockies. lol
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by Jeffrey Morton on Feb 19, 2012 10:49 AM MST up reply actions
The 2 comments on that article are making me snicker.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 19, 2012 11:19 AM MST up reply actions
this may be the quote of the offseason
You just showed your baseball ignorance. Tracy is a very good, if not excellent in-game strategist.
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by papality on Feb 19, 2012 12:37 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Somebody needs to call that guy's bluff.
Ask for actual examples of “very good” Traceytegery.
Like using three pitchers to get three outs in an innings.
Or using the worst pitcher in your bullpen instead of your closer in the 10th inning because it’s not a Save Situation.
Stuff like that.
by Shoemaker on Feb 19, 2012 12:44 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
In fairness to Tracy
the second one is something 90% of ML managers do.
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by djmbluemoon on Feb 19, 2012 12:51 PM MST up reply actions
If 90% of people jumped off a bridge, it’s still not smart.
by squalene203 on Feb 19, 2012 2:40 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
You're right about that
but arguably the other 10% might be the “very good” in-game strategists…
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by Junction Rox on Feb 19, 2012 3:55 PM MST up reply actions
Unless it was Tracy himself.
Maybe he did it mobile
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
by Roxman4ever on Feb 19, 2012 12:52 PM MST up reply actions
not a chance
doesn’t have ‘special’
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by papality on Feb 19, 2012 2:28 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
that part was clearly satire
oh, it wasn’t?
uh oh.
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So what is the over/under......
1. Pomeranz wins ROY?
2.Number of Games Pacheco plays 3b?
3.Number of Starts Moyer gets?
4.Number of Games Cuddyer plays 1b?
5.Number of games Tracy burns the entire bullpen Consecutively?
6. Days before Dick and Charlie decide Tracy is not so “Special”?
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i believe pomeranz is the early favorite for NL ROY
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lol
didn’t even notice that
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It has to be Yonder Alonso, doesn't it?
He’s the only candidate that showed a significant amount of ML success last year…defense is terrible, but that doesn’t seem to weigh in much to ROY voting anyway.
his numbers will be significantly deflated by Petco though
He might get respect still, but Nick Hundley and Chase Headley really don’t.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 19, 2012 4:32 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
the major candidates would seem to be
(off top of my head and in no particular order)
pomeranz, alonso, rizzo, teheran, skaggs, bauer
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it's no fair, the AL gets all the good rookies this year
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Rizzo still has rookie eligibility?
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
looks like he's just over, actually
had 153 PAs last year, cutoff is 150, no?
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No Harper?
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
I'd say he's a favorite if he gets into the MLB before June
There’s no telling when the Nationals decide he’s ready to start. I’ve heard he could be there Opening Day or all the way until July. It’s already a safe bet to assume Pomeranz is going to start at least 25 games for the Rockies this year.
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Its already started for the Giants: Oh well
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120219&content_id=26754476&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
…he’s 34 years old? How did I miss that?
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Mike Cameron retired also
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
by Roxman4ever on Feb 19, 2012 11:10 AM MST up reply actions
that's surprising
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and they've got top prospect zack wheeler waiting in the wings
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the funny thing is they really did, yet they really didn't.
/Ramon Ortiz
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 19, 2012 12:39 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Could you think if they had traded their best pitching prospect
for a rental outfielder, not made the playoffs anyways, and then barely tried to re-sign that outfielder?
Giants fans probably would have been peeved.
by Shoemaker on Feb 19, 2012 12:39 PM MST via Android app up reply actions 2 recs
The way he injured himself was..odd
Vogelsong, 34, hurt himself while squatting on a balance ball
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..and why was he lifting backup middle infielders?
while lifting 70-pound dumbbells
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I'll make one point and then leave this topic alone.
If the Rockies tried to pay Cuddyer similar to a “Union Boss”, he would not be on this team, unless he wanted to come here so badly he would take a deal worth less than the league minimum salary. Typical Union president salary ranges from $150,000 – $350,000.
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscripti catapultas habebunt
Seriously
I’ll take that measly salary.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 19, 2012 11:28 AM MST up reply actions
As would I
It was more of a sarcastic response, but this is going off topic so I will stop.
It's Jim Tracy's Fault.
Thank god some would, because there are CEOs who wouldn't get out of bed for 10 times that despite the pressure involved
Hurrah for the unions. And unless you’re a kleptocrat CEO you should say hurrah for them too.
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by biondino on Feb 19, 2012 3:40 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Not THE unions, OUR unions.
As they say…
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by DumbAndNerdy on Feb 19, 2012 6:09 PM MST up reply actions
If a union boss makes 3x to 7x more than the typical union member
Cuddyer’s contract is a bargain in comparion.
by WanderingRoxFan on Feb 19, 2012 4:29 PM MST up reply actions
Nice work if you can get it...not sure how you "get it" though...
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by WhiskeyDrinkingMan on Feb 19, 2012 6:23 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah.
I was a little put off by this. I know that this was some kind of nod to political equality, but it would have been better to just avoid it. It was neither funny nor factual.
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by DumbAndNerdy on Feb 19, 2012 6:05 PM MST up reply actions
"Typical" CEO salary is probably in the same range
The comment depended on all of us thinking of the stereotypical extreme examples of either position, not the “typical”.
I should also point out that if a CEO or union boss can hit .300 with 25 HRs and an .800 OPS for the Rockies, I will be very happy to see them make $10 million a year…
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by Junction Rox on Feb 19, 2012 8:14 PM MST up reply actions
Jayson Stark
Is so aware of ESPN’s ridiculous bias towards large market teams… yet somehow also so clueless:
Is it even legal to run through a list of spring training storylines without including the Yankees? To be honest, we’re afraid to find out — and it’s not worth investing the legal fees. So as much as we were tempted to ignore the Bombers and hone in on stuff like the Rays’ potentially awesome rotation or the rise of the Royals, we just couldn’t bring ourselves to do it.
So essentially: “even though there are better and more interesting teams, let’s talking about the mother flippin’ Yankees.”
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 19, 2012 11:25 AM MST reply actions
by mentioning this story you are also mentioning the Yankees
Can’t we live in a Yankee free world?
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by djmbluemoon on Feb 19, 2012 12:53 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
YAY Baseball!!
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This and rec'd
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
by Roxman4ever on Feb 19, 2012 11:48 AM MST up reply actions
annual GM’s Named Dan cruise.
i totally bet this exists
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It’s the week before Rock Boat.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
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It's the week before Rock Boat.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Feb 19, 2012 4:22 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Hey you guys!
How did pitchers and catchers reporting go? Did anyone get hurt in the reporting line? Who’s in the best queuing shape of his life?
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I think they reported. That's all that matters...?
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by prettyinpurple on Feb 20, 2012 3:24 AM MST up reply actions
I NEED INFO DAMMIT
Also, what are you doing still up, young lady?
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by prettyinpurple on Feb 20, 2012 3:39 AM MST up reply actions
PARTY TIME
I assume. You might be studying or something I guess.
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I'm actually not, wow, haha. Ha. Ha.
(Excuse me, as I am a little loopy from chocolate oreo thingies).
I was having a jam sesh with friends, then played Settlers of Catan, now we’re hanging real late trying to stay up real late, which is most likely a bad life choice since I have more homework than you can possibly imagine, well…it’s actually a bit less than I can possibly imagine. Anyway, yeah, we’re not being productive since they’re is a holiday tomorrow. Woot.
Hahahahaha and I just used the wrong form of their. Hahahahaah.
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by prettyinpurple on Feb 20, 2012 3:45 AM MST up reply actions
Are you on DRUGS?
Actually you’re probably one of those people who can have a good time sober. Showoff :P
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aww, yeah
Might do an all-nighter all natural…Again- not a good life choice.
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by prettyinpurple on Feb 20, 2012 3:52 AM MST up reply actions
It does seem slightly contrary to stay up all night just to prove you can stay up all night.
OTOH if you can’t do it at your age, you can’t do it ever. If I tried it now I’d lose at very least the next day (I sort of have experience of this, having done three 70-80 mile bike rides starting at midnight, and the next day I am either asleep or a useless zombie).
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Oh I've done it before...but it was in summer, so....
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