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"You can talk all you want about intangibles, I just don't know what that means." Sandy Koufax

Three quotes from today’s Post article by Renck;

Tulo - ” We all know we need our main focus to be on baseball. On our World Series team, that was the case - and last year it wasn't."

Tracy - "The biggest threat is that we get in our own way, we start taking the intangibles for granted. We have to get back to showing up that day to win the game and not caring how or who does it."


DOD - "They can't have their own little cliques, and they have to get outside of their own little boxes. They need to understand that the foundation and framework needs to be put in place this season. We have to do that or we will never accomplish what we want to accomplish. And you know what? I have been a failed leader in many ways because of that. As strange as this sounds, because we live in an industry based on wins and losses, the more you focus on wins and losses, the less you get. ... I don't care if it sounds corny or not, we are going to do this."

The funny thing is that sportswriters will tell you in great detail about a player’s statistical failings. Has anyone not covered Dexter Fowler’s inability to turn his speed into steals? Yet they rarely call out a player directly on attitude, effort, dedication or any of the other intangibles that killed the Rockies last season. Talking intangibles after the jump.

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Reading the usual sources I get that Ian Stewart did not live up to his athletic potential. Some injury issues may have had an impact and there were questions about how the Rockies brought him back and when. So he is gone to Chicago. Was it a mercy trade to give him a change to start with a clean slate and a clear head? Or was the issue greater?

I fully understand that no one on the team wants to throw an ex-teammate under the bus. So as a fan all we get are nebulous talk of ‘intangibles’ and ‘little cliques’. I want to harness the full power of the internet (without character assassination, if possible) to talk about why the Rockies were a soap opera instead of a team in 2011.

Not just the guys who are gone. For instance, to say Tulo is a little wound up and needs to find a more even keeled approach doesn’t mean he is a bad guy. The human condition is that everyone can work on getting better at something. The Rockies phrase for this is that they are a young core growing together.

But last year sucked. Management shot the intangibles. The Rockies shipped out roughly 53% of their 2011 starts, 31% of their innings pitched and 45% of position player innings.

Jimenez, Cook, Romero, Millwood, Ellis, Kouzmanoff, Iannetta, Wigginton, Garner, Spilborghs, Weathers, Stewart, Street, Mortensen, Smith, Reynolds, Hammel and Lindstrom (almost half a 40 man roster) are gone. Whose departure will help the intangibles the most and why? Among the returning players who needs to mature?

By the way, the gist of the full Koufax quote is that intangibles don't win games, talent does.

Eat. Drink. Be Merry. But the above FanPost does not necessarily reflect the attitudes, opinions, or views of Purple Row's staff (unless, of course, it's written by the staff [and even then, it still might not]).

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Whose fault ...

Nice article … Whose fault was last years failings? Was it the fault of some of the players? Is Jim Tracy to blame? The coaches? Dan O’dowd? Certainly the injuries played a part …

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by Cowboy33 on Feb 20, 2012 6:34 AM MST reply actions  

I'd say it was the perfect storm. In no particular order of importance:

1) From what I’ve read, it sounds like there was a me-first attitude with a lot of the guys in the clubhouse. In some places this would have been nipped in the bud by the manager, but Jim Tracy is famous for being a “hands-off” manager when it comes to clubhouse affairs (he’s even said this himself before).

2) From what I saw, guys failed to produce on the field and were either shipped down to the Springs to “figure it out” (Dexter, Ian) or were cut/traded (Lopez, Paulino).

3) We had bad luck with injuries (JDLR, Ubaldo, Nicasio, and to a certain extent I think you could say Stewart as well), but you always have to figure injuries are going to get you, especially playing at altitude.

by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 11:23 AM MST up reply actions  

injury karma for 2009

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by papality on Feb 20, 2012 12:59 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't remember if it was the same article

but the comment made by Tracy stating he finally had to get involved in July or August since the players couldn’t police themselves tells me there is no true leader in the clubhouse. Tulo may be the defacto leader since he’s the biggest star but if he’s not able to get everyone on the same page, then we need a stronger presence in our manager.

Unfortunately, it feels as if management (Dan and company) feels it’s a lot easier to change the character of the ballclub than it is to bring in a manager that gets his hand dirty.

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by Cargo'es Yard on Feb 20, 2012 7:23 AM MST reply actions  

Funny you use Koufax to make your point.

Koufax was a huge talent, that was totally abused by Walter Alston. The conventional wisdom on Koufax is that he could never find the strike zone and was a bad pitcher until he finally mastered his control after working with Norm Sherry.

The fact is Koufax was an above average pitcher those exile years. He would pitch well for a while, then have a bad game, and Alston would bench him for a long time and never give him another chance. There is a story about how Willie Mays told Alston or some other Dodger official during that time, “If you don’t want him, we do. We will trade you for him.”

Is that not Jim Tracy? Jim Tracy lost me for good when he played Miguel Olivo over Chris Iannetta in 2010. DOD talks about the more they focus on winning, the less wins they have. That is precisely what Jim Tracy did, abandoning his young talented players for the reliable veterans. It is only speculation, but I believe he did a terrible job in how he handled Stewart and Iannetta off the field.

by brian8065 on Feb 20, 2012 11:24 AM MST reply actions   2 recs

This

Although, Olivo was in total beast mode for a half season. Still, I agree that Tracy completely mishandled CDI and Ian.

by webgem14 on Mar 7, 2012 8:36 AM MST up reply actions  

I feel uncharitable for saying this

But sometimes it’d be nice to know that a player doesn’t need to be “handled” and will just show up and give his best, regardless of the situation.

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by biondino on Mar 9, 2012 4:49 AM MST up reply actions  

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