Monday Rockpile: Does Casey Blake Have A Remaining Season of Production?
by Andrew Martin on Feb 20, 2012 7:30 AM MST
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PrintThis offseason, the biggest name to talk about at 3B for the Rockies has been Nolan Arenado. This 20-year old prospect looks to be the next big thing in ColoradoWith the motto of the the Rockies 2011-2012 offseason having been "hire 1-year talent so we don't have to rush prospects", it's easy to forget the merits of the guys in the here and now. We've talked about how well Marco Scutaro naturally fits into Colorado's lineup, but what contributions are expectable from Casey Blake?
Before we even begin to try and analyze Blake's production, it's important to, once again, discuss the production dropoff from 2010 to 2011 and just how bad 2011 was at the hot corner for Colorado. Rockies 3B in 2010 were pretty passable. Ian Stewart gave the Rockies 441PA of league-average play, Melvin Mora was somewhat above average, and Johnny Herrera had some of his slappiest games at 3B. Overall, a .797 OPS from the 3B aggregate was distinctly above average (115 OPS+).
2011, however, was a much different year. 3B production league-wide was poor, so bad production ended up not being that comparatively bad: Ty Wigginton's .771 OPS was rated at a 117 OPS+ (suggesting that Wigginton as a 3B was about 17% more productive than the league-average bat), and even Kevin Kouzmanoff's .688 OPS only rated as a 94 OPS+. So knowing that the Rockies had THAT MUCH leeway to churn out some sort of league average production, Chris Nelson, Ian Stewart, and Jose Lopez were so bad that it pulled the Rockies' overall 3B production to 25th of 30 in MLB, a .629 OPS/78 OPS+. That's really bad.
So enter Casey Blake. Blake last posted a season above average in 2009 when he batted .280/.363/.468 for the Dodgers. Over the past two seasons, Blake's production dipped to .249/.327/.397. Much as a .723 OPS isn't COMPLETELY miserable, it did rate out as a 99 OPS+. A near-career high BB% and a career-low ISO (that is, SLG-AVG) in 2011 gives me some pause, but again, if Blake/Nelson/whoever can bat somewhere around league average, the improvement at the hot corner will be noticeable. Projections support the idea of Blake being near that "just below league average" mark, but longevity will be a major concern.
In terms of his batting profile, Blake hoisted a LD% of 19% and a strikeout rate just below 21% puts Blake right in the middle of the pack for the 2011 Rockies. It's not too bad, but the trends in his batted ball profile do leave me wondering if we're going to be able to squeeze one last season of production out of Blake, or if this steady erosion is really spelling the last we'll see of Casey Blake, with the 2012 Rockies. As he'll likely bat 8th in the lineup, he'll at least have that potential added OBP bonus from people pitching to get to the 9 spot. Not that it would mean much, but who knows: maybe the pitching staff will perfect the slug-bunt in 2012.
Really, this team is at least somewhat similar to the 2004 Rockies. 2004 saw a starting infield of: Shawn Estes, Charles Johnson, Todd Helton, Luis A. Gonzalez, Royce Clayton, Vinny Castilla, Kit Pellow, Preston Wilson, and Jeromy Burnitz. While Burnitz and Castilla had solid years for Colorado, the majority of this team was there just to keep the position warm for guys like Clint Barmes, Jeff Baker, Garrett Atkins, and Matt Holliday. Similarly, spots on the Rockies active roster are blatant placeholders: Ramon Hernandez, Marco Scutaro, and Casey Blake. Michael Cuddyer is harder to paint as just a placeholder, as the Rockies don't have a surefire RF waiting to come up as they do with other positions.
Personally, I don't know what it is about Blake that has me so intrigued. He's traditionally known as a gloveman who's had some flashes of competence with the bat (2 seasons above a .830 OPS, but not too far above). Maybe it's the chiseled beard. Maybe it's the persona of the consummate professional. Maybe I just want to watch a guy bat like a normal batter - not an extreme contact hitter, or high-walk/high-strikeout, or an all-or-nothing home run swinger. No, I think I just like Blake because he's just been the average "Solid Player" throughout his career.
Blake will be a good addition to the Rockies clubhouse and lineup in general. With pitchers and catchers reporting yesterday, it's time for the season to start already so we can see the fruits of all of this offseason labor.
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Casey Blake is an Iowa native
odds are good he slopped pigs growing up
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 20, 2012 7:35 AM MST via Android app reply actions
I bet $5 he never slopped pigs.
But had at least one season of detassiling corn.
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Get well soon Juan.
I actually doubt it too, as I recall he grew up in the burbs of Des Moines
that just makes it funnier
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 20, 2012 7:40 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
In that case, I'll up my bet to $10.
It seems like a right of passage for all the teenagers here.
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Iowan here.
Never slopped pigs or detassled corn. I did spend one awful day walking beans. Yuck.
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oooooo walking beans sucks
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 20, 2012 7:45 AM MST up reply actions
So now we have to send Casey an e-mail asking him if
he slopped hogs
detassled corn
or walked beans.
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and powerwashed a hog barn
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 20, 2012 7:50 AM MST up reply actions
can I join the party?
I was born in Iowa City. moved 10mo later but I return annually.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 20, 2012 7:47 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
LIke the swallows to Capistrano?
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by DumbAndNerdy on Feb 20, 2012 7:50 AM MST up reply actions
i suppose
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 20, 2012 7:51 AM MST up reply actions
let's schedule the first annual Iowa Purple Row convention
say, when the corn is knee high
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 20, 2012 7:52 AM MST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
use to be by fourth of july, but heck them chemicals got that by june 10 these days
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 20, 2012 7:54 AM MST up reply actions
Hopefully the corn is knee high and the
Rockies are in 1st place.
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by TuloRocks on Feb 20, 2012 8:01 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Meh
That means nothing. I’d like to see the Rox in 1st place around harvest time.
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by Thnikkaman on Feb 20, 2012 8:02 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
yep
though it has been half a decade since I followed them closely. my grandpa went to every home fball and bowl game for almost four decades, I believe
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 20, 2012 7:55 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Awesome. Yeah I have season tickets and its a blast
6 a.m. tailgates.
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That's an impressive feat.
What did you study?
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Comp Sci
Finished my Masters in ’08. Now I work for one of the businesses that keeps Cedar Rapids on the map.
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Get well soon Juan.
don't let that fifth season go by the wayside
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 20, 2012 8:10 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
What about the 5th smell
What should I do with that?
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Get well soon Juan.
my grandparents live downwind from the Quaker factory
that smell is like family to me
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 20, 2012 8:24 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Fortunately I live in Marion,
So I don’t experience any of the 5 smells.
If we wanted to do an Iowa Purple Row get together, I’d be more than happy to host.
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Cedar Rapids? hate that smell
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 20, 2012 8:34 AM MST up reply actions
Can't stand it. I don't like being downtown when the rotten boiled chicken smell permiates the land.
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Puke
I still remember it and I haven’t lived there in 20 years.
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by Paleface Destro on Feb 20, 2012 6:08 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
ohhhhhh yeah I-O-W-A, across from Finkbine
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 20, 2012 8:03 AM MST up reply actions
What a coincidence,
All of my children were born in Iowa City.
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Get well soon Juan.
I was born in Iowa City too!
We may have moved to Colorado when I was 10 months old, but my mom’s whole family is in Iowa, so we go back every year.
Iowa owns.
wait, you're me?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 20, 2012 8:10 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
I was born in Davenport when my Dad was in school
Moved back to Colorado when I was 1. But we’ve only visited Iowa once when I was little. So I don’t really know anything about it
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by purplesocks on Feb 20, 2012 10:43 AM MST up reply actions
So the question is
How does someone born in Denver, CO get stuck in Iowa?
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I have slopped pigs, but never detassled corn
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 20, 2012 7:43 AM MST up reply actions
I was raised on a hog farm, within a holler of Olathe's Sweet Corn fields..
so I’ve slopped hogs and detassled corn. My wife actually made the cover of the Sweetcorn Festival newspaper. She can really down the corn.
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As an Iowan, you could of finished by saying, odds are hes fING good at what he does
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 20, 2012 7:43 AM MST up reply actions
No News is Good News
from here until April 6
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I can think of a few exceptions
like Nolan Arenado turning into half cat half Hulk in the offseason. or Nicasio suddenly hitting 100mph and a new splitter
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 20, 2012 7:46 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
maybe we can call those developments all other things news
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 20, 2012 7:49 AM MST up reply actions
Well this is no good
The Padres are about to add 75 million per season in revenue, on the eve of the biggest glut of FA pitchers around how would you like to face Greinke in that cavern for the next 7 years
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i would like it slightly more than say Hamels but still i wouldn’t like it
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 20, 2012 8:07 AM MST up reply actions
Imagine if the Nationals had waited to dump Werth's contract on Hamels instead
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as of right now, that would have been a good decision
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 20, 2012 8:11 AM MST up reply actions
similar to that of Samuel Adams
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 20, 2012 8:13 AM MST up reply actions
It just seems like with Harper in the system and the number 3 pick in the upcoming draft
signing a guy who minus his career year in 2010 had an OPS+ of 115 until he is 38.
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Mostly I am just thinking of the 2011 Nats as similar to the 07 Rockies with more money
They had a very nice combination of young potential breakouts like Ramos, Espinosa, Desmond, Marrero, Lombardozzi and Jordan Zimmerman, a guy coming off a very good season in Morse, an All-Star in Ryan Zimmermanm, super high ceiling prospects in Strasburg and Harper and the 6th pick of one of the most talented drafts in years. It just seems like they jumped into the FA a year early, and maybe Werth rebounds but even then when it comes time to extend the Zimmermans, Harper or Strasburg there will be a guy in his mid to late 30’s making Mark Texeira money.
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it did see that they had jumped the gun early, i mean i can see how they wanted to show the fanbase they were committed at one point, but still, with the names coming out in the following years, it seemed at the time they spent a lot on a guy that wouldn’t have been the center piece to the team
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 20, 2012 8:39 AM MST up reply actions
I like werth, I would have offered him the Bay contract
instead they gave him what amounted to about 20 million more than Holliday got, and Holliday is a far superior player.
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It would have been then too
He was never worth that contract, even when he was performing at his best.
if he had two more seasons similar to 2010 and two seasons around 2009, a season
around 2007, then two seasons like last year that would have just about justified that contract but it wouldn’t have been a good deal.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I have heard that the Dodgers are looking at a Yankees type TV offer
Get used to seeing Joey Votto everyone.
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why, are we going to be facing the blue jays a lot?
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I really hope the Jays get him, but something tells me the LAD are going to make it really
expensive to do so.
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That's a staggering number...
…for a comparatively small TV market.
And for Moreno to get the Angels franchise for $183mm, in that market, with all of these revenue streams…
Maybe the best investment ever?
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by WhiskeyDrinkingMan on Feb 20, 2012 10:48 AM MST up reply actions
Frank Mccourt disagrees
he basically bought them for two parking lots, and payed for them out of their own revenue streams read more about it here
If you don’t closely follow events west of the Rockies (or west of the Hudson), here are the basic facts about McCourt’s ownership of the Dodgers. McCourt bought the Dodgers from News Corp (Fox Sports) with $150 million he borrowed from Bank of America, $75 million he borrowed from Major League Baseball (MLB) and a $196 million debt package from Fox. That’s $421 million of debt.
After the purchase, McCourt rearranged this debt to his liking. McCourt traded his Boston parking lots to Fox in exchange for forgiveness of some of the Fox debt. Then he caused a Dodger affiliate, Dodger Tickets, LLC, to borrow $250 million to refinance most of the remaining acquisition debt. Plus McCourt cashed in on $50 million of "rebates" from Fox. With this rearrangement, McCourt effectively purchased the Dodgers – for a final purchase price of between $355 million and $371 million – in exchange for parking lots and $300 million (more or less) of debt. By all reports, McCourt put not one dime of his own into this purchase. Moreover, McCourt did not himself have to borrow the money used for the purchase – he got the Dodgers to do it for him blockquote>
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Thanks for the link...
I will re-phrase and say the Angels were the best investment ever…not made by a family of complete scum-bags.
I knew that McCourt was single-handedly destroying the team I grew up watching but will admit to not caring enough to drill down into the details of how bad of a person he and his wife really are.
I have pretty good credit…maybe I will look at scamming my own MLB team?
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by WhiskeyDrinkingMan on Feb 20, 2012 12:24 PM MST up reply actions
it really is amazing
Mccourt is about to split 1.5 billion with Jamie Mccourt, the state of California, the Federal Government all for two parking lots in Boston. All that after he has already looted around 100 million from the team.
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while nothing at all is happening to the wilpons in new york
whose situation is somewhat different, though still relevant
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The Wilpons got suckered, the McCourts suckered MLB.
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They just got a deal with Fox to broadcast the games
so they might have something to do with it.
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Shame it is two years to late to keep AGon
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Wade Davis might possibly ask for a trade perhaps if things go a certain way maybe
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 20, 2012 7:59 AM MST via Android app reply actions
We usually don’t pick up hitchhikers, but I’m going to go with my instinct on this one. Saddle up, partner
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 20, 2012 8:02 AM MST up reply actions
I voted no
because I think he’ll be alright at the beginning of the season but will fade by the end. Hopefully Arenado is ready by June
I voted no as well
but mostly because I don’t believe he’ll stay healthy. He’s the same age as Helton, coming off of two injury filled years, and plays a more demanding position than 1st. People are back to aging like they used to.
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by Cargo'es Yard on Feb 20, 2012 8:58 AM MST up reply actions
Casey Blake played 146 games in 2010 and his injury was very specific in 2011
I think he may have one more year left in the tank.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 20, 2012 8:38 AM MST via Android app reply actions
Bahaha Nice
I really hope he actually Tebows after each strikeout.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 9:36 AM MST up reply actions
I really hope not
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She's an AI
AI’s don’t know fun.
Or she likes the Chargers.
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Get well soon Juan.
Don't you dare say I like the Chargers.
Don’t you dare!
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I'm trying to figure this out
are you suggesting that because I am not a huge Tebite I’m not a Bronco fan?
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No
I’m just picking on you like usual. I wouldn’t do it if I knew you had a big problem with it.
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do you really think this is the place to whip your fanhood out and
wave it around?
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Well it is a sports blog
and I wave my fanhood about the Rockies proudly.
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And what a gloriously large fanhood it is.
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I would find it as annoying as Dinger behind homeplate
If he wants to Tebow when he first takes the mound fine.
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I would find it annoying anytime.
Because I find it annoying when anyone besides Tebow does it.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Feb 20, 2012 12:05 PM MST up reply actions
Anyone?
Even founders of holidays?
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I'd think it would be funny if he did it once or twice honestly
But beyond that, I would be severely annoyed.
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Ok. If he did it after throwing a complete game and we won, I'd be cool with that.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Feb 20, 2012 12:43 PM MST up reply actions
No hitter against the Giants
Only appropriate time for that
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
by Roxman4ever on Feb 20, 2012 12:45 PM MST up reply actions
No, that's when you slap Timmeh in the face with your enormous fanhood.
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by Paleface Destro on Feb 20, 2012 6:11 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
LOL
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
I agree with you
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
by Roxman4ever on Feb 20, 2012 12:40 PM MST up reply actions
I think 3B is the test of whether the "Learn how to win now" philosophy
being espoused by O’Dowd is just public relations bs or for real.
If Blake is posting below-Wiggy numbers & the Rockies are satisfied with that, then forget the “This team must learn how to win” mantra. They’re still just banking on future prospects winning in the future.
If Arenado’s tearing up the minors & Blake is repeating, or declining from, his prior 2 crappy seasons, and the change isn’t made early in the year, then O’Dowd’s statements mean little.
Personally, I’d push the decision early. If Arenado’s bashing in ST & at least average at 3B and Blake’s looking like an over-the-hill, no power, low-OBP placeholder, I’d go for the W’s now — optimal development path for Arenado be damned.
I suspect Arenado could take a step back...
and that’s the worry. The hype over this kid has gone viral and overboard. He’ll be REALLY good one day, but let’s face it, he’s 20 years-old and hasn’t played above A-ball. Going to AA for at least 3 months is a good test for his progression, and he should learn a lot.
Another former Rockies prospect was much hyped after hitting over 40 doubles in a fine season in A-ball. Turned out he couldn’t hit much above that level. His name was Jayson Nix. Let’s hope Arenado is no Nix, and I do think Nolan’s a much better prospect. However, hoping for him to make the Show at any point this year is asking for a .240/.280/.370 line from a young 3B.
Blake will be fine in the meantime, health permitting.
the AFL is above A ball, and he was the best (and one of the youngest) player there.
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It's REALLY easy to hit in Arizona...
so I discount his AFL numbers a bit.
I’m not talking about pure stat lines, I’m talking about performing at a level above everyone else. That is easy enough to see.
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Sure, but I think one month of at-bats...
is not definitive. It’s why Arenado is much loved now, but let’s see him do similar things at AA for 3 months before putting to much onus on him to come up to the Show and perform.
i agree with you for the most part, baseball can be a very very streaky game, and anybody can get hot “See the ball Well” and have a great couple of weeks. I would like to see him perform at that level for a month or so at the AA level.
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 20, 2012 9:16 AM MST up reply actions
I say 3 months...
because that will mean that Blake is doing just fine in the meantime. If he comes up after just a month in AA, we’ve got a guy struggling or hurt at the hot-corner in April, and that won’t help our W/L record early.
I’d say his 2011 season is why he’s loved now. Between the ridiculous contact rate, vastly improved defense, leading the minors in RBI, and the increase in power despite the most extreme RH power suppressing environment in pro ball, he did more than enough to justify the hype.
He’s a contact first bat, and that is a skill that should quickly translate at the ML level. I’m not saying he should be the OD starter, but it’s not a ridiculous notion.
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and as the tenth youngest player in his league he had more XBH than K's
for the second straight year.
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i love that stat
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 20, 2012 9:19 AM MST up reply actions
It really puts in prospective what they mean when they say he has a
“disciplined” approach at the plate. It isn’t so much that he is patient as it is that he is hard to get a swing and miss from. That stat speaks to someone with elite pitch recognition skills, in his last chat Mike Newman said he would say Arenado has both the best Hit Tool and the best work ethic of any prospect he has scouted. He put them both in the same category as Mike Stanton’s power, Christian Bethancourt’s arm and Anthony Gose’s speed.
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Mike Stantons power?
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 20, 2012 9:38 AM MST up reply actions
His exact quote from last thursday's prospect chat
[Comment From Tony Tony: ]
If you could build the "perfect prospect" using the 5 traditional tools, plus bonus points for makeup, what would you include? (i.e. Harper’s power, Hamilton’s speed, etc)
Thursday February 16, 2012 5:11 Tony
5:11 Mike Newman: Of guys I’ve scouted: Stanton’s power, Gose’s speed, Christian Bethancourt’s arm strength, Wilfredo Tovar’s defense and Nolan Arenado’s hit tool. I’ll also take Arenado for work ethic as well
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Stanton's power?
Well that certainly get’s my attention. If that is true and combining it with everything else where he favorably shines, then bringing him to the bigs at 20 shouldn’t give anyone concern…
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by WhiskeyDrinkingMan on Feb 20, 2012 9:54 AM MST up reply actions
Ok, now I understand...
…I lazily took it to mean that the scout was comparing his power to Stanton. Still quite a compliment to Arenado just not what I was thinking (and questioning) him saying.
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by WhiskeyDrinkingMan on Feb 20, 2012 2:44 PM MST up reply actions
What he meant was that Stanton was as close to an 80 power
of anyone he had ever seen, Arenado’s Contact tool is like that too
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It's both 2011 and the AFL...
that put Arenado on the map as an elite prospect. BTW, I think evaluation based on RBI production is just not the best way to look at him. But, it’s one reason he’s hyped in every article. I think he will be an All-Star, but his ETA to the All-Star game is probably 2015 or later.
Let’s not make the potentially damaging mistake of rushing him. That’s why we have Blake….so we can give Nolan the proper amount of seasoning.
I think he will be an All-Star, but his ETA to the All-Star game is probably 2015 or later.
With the current state of NL 3B, I’ll take that bet.
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Ryan Zimmerman or Hanley Ramirez have that locked up...
at the hot corner for the next few years, assuming one or the other are healthy.
Hanley? His batting numbers have been on a pretty steady 3 year decline right now and I don’t trust his transition to the hot corner.
I love Zim with all my heart, but you can never bank on him to stay healthy. With Rendon waiting in the wings, he may switch positions (or teams)
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What would you think of Zimmerman as a1b here?
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that'd be great
he’d be very, very expensive though
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Rizzo killed off a big part of their farm to get Gio...
If they don’t move him to 1b to replace LaRoache whom I have no love for; He might be available for say Bettis and Scahill?
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Zim for Bettis and Scahill? Maybe in my fantasy land.
He’s a legit all-star at a premium position, a defensive wizard, and he still has two years before Free agency for a team that suddenly has the most exciting young core in baseball.
Not happenin’
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He's also been fragile and will be moving positions.
I like Zim a lot too. I wouldn’t doubt he could play 1b. I’m not sure he fits in their plans when he hits free agency.
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maybe if bettis develops his changeup enough and is ready to start full-time in MLB in 2013, sure
but rendon still hasn’t played any pro ball at all, and while for example longoria didn’t need much time to make the majors, i doubt they’d be willing to ship zimmerman out that easily, and he’s under control for two more years
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.
Zimmerman is pretty untouchable right now. I don’t think we could put ANY 3 or 4 prospects on the table right now that would make the Nats say yes.
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by CentralCaliRox on Feb 20, 2012 4:12 PM MST up reply actions
Arenado
Pomeranz
Rosario
White?
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 4:14 PM MST up reply actions
Would they really want Arenado though?
I would say more like Arenado/Pomeranz/Rosario/Bettis. And I don’t think that gets it done, to be honest.
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by CentralCaliRox on Feb 20, 2012 4:16 PM MST up reply actions
the team with anthony rendon
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Rendon.
I think they’d look to trade Arenado if they got him
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by CentralCaliRox on Feb 20, 2012 4:17 PM MST up reply actions
I would not give up Nolan for Zim
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Right now you wouldn't?
Straight up?
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by CentralCaliRox on Feb 20, 2012 4:18 PM MST up reply actions
NO!
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Sarcasm.
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by CentralCaliRox on Feb 20, 2012 4:19 PM MST up reply actions
i should hope so
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really?
because that would probably be a total steal for us
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i dunno
i mean it makes intuitive sense to include arenado and rosario, but they have rendon and ramos… pomeranz+white+bettis+parker+blackmon/wheeler?
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Def not.
I think they’d demand Nolan, and then look to trade him.
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by CentralCaliRox on Feb 20, 2012 4:18 PM MST up reply actions
Btw, this is a total off-the-wall trade that would never ever happen in any of our wildest dreams.
Soo I say let’s stop dreaming and just enjoy ST eh
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by CentralCaliRox on Feb 20, 2012 4:19 PM MST up reply actions
butbutbut
rosterbation is great
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which league
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what tv show
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never heard of it
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Its a show on FX about fantasy football
they use the term rosterbation a lot. thats why i think he referenced it
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Seriously, I think Nolan has the kind of hit tool to be our #3 hitter for a long time.
I could see Cargo moving eventually behind Tulo to be a second leadoff and protection for Tulo. I would like Zim at 1b as a Todd replacement, I also see this as a Possible 2014 deadline move.
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cargo should hit 2nd in that scenario
with like parker, matthes, or wheeler hitting 5th
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I'm not sure they will be versitle enough contact hitters to be a good number five.
I have no doubt of there power. I want more than just power at #5.
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Zimmerman is one of the best defensive 3b in the league
why would we move him to 1b in this hypothetical?
moving nolan to 1b would be the better play in this scenario
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In theory Rendon moves him in D.C.
I would want the younger player at 3b and Nolan is still improveing on Defense where age and injury say Zim will decline some.
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Ryan Zimmerman is 27 years old.
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Seven years older
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:-)
I know, I was just theorizing. I wouldn’t want to give that up for Zim just to see him (most likely) leave for Free Agency.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 4:22 PM MST up reply actions
I would be under the impression the team signs him to a long term deal after they trade away the key pieces of the farm like that.
But yea.
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by CentralCaliRox on Feb 20, 2012 4:23 PM MST up reply actions
we could just wait until next offseason
when david wright voids his player option after having been traded to the phillies at the deadline, and sign him
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David Wright is in faster decline.
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that's probably not true
he has a much cleaner injury history, is barely older, and has seen citi field do wacky things to his production… expect a bounceback this year
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I'm a Met fan and predisposed to like David Wright.
While I agree Citi Field has caused him to drasticly change his approach; I see him( when I’ve watched him) swing and miss more and I’m not sure his vision hasn’t subtly altered post concussion
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i would how that would translate, actually
normally guys who are bad 3B move to first, not guys who are great 3B… chances are he’s better than arenado, so if we got zim, arenado would probably be the one moving
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I love Zim so much that I’d have no qualms sticking him in CF.
He’s probably my favorite MLB player aside from Todd Helton.
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shouldn't that make longoria more of your favorite, since he's essentially a better version of zimmerman
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shouldn't that make longoria more of your favorite, since he's essentially a better version of zimmerman
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 20, 2012 9:32 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
So that makes three potential All-Stars...
who are known commodities, before Arenado has even made a name for himself in the majors. I’ll take the “over” in my 2015 ASG ETA estimate.
I don't think you can call any of the three known commodities.
As Muzia said, Hanley’s bat has been declining and Zimmerman is a constant injury risk; it’s hard to call All-Star production from either of them a sure thing.
Panda had a great year last year, but the year before that he posted a .268/.323/.409 line, which isn’t exactly All-Star level.
Not to disparage all three players, but I would have a hard time calling any of them “known commodities” at this point.
posted a .350 BABIP
which all odds said he wouldn’t be able to replicate, and lo and behold, he didn’t. last year’s .320 is still a tad high, but much more realistic
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BABIP be damned ...
His numbers last year were pretty good even with the regression to the mean … 2010 looks like the outlier to me.
yes they were
but he needs to get his walks back up. also it’ll be interesting to see what happens to his power this year
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Chipper will also get a farewell bid this year and/or next, taking another spot(s) for 2012/13.
There’s also Aramis Ramirez, who can hit or miss on a yearly basis, and some chump named David Freese who will be a 2012 AS based upon last year’s WS alone. He’s a pretty decent ballplayer when healthy.
Toss a declining Placido Polanco, who could have a good half-season for a team that fills the ballpark daily, into the mix, and I think you have the next two years pretty well entrenched with a group of guys that will snake AS spots for Arenado for at least the next two seasons.
The key is that it doesn’t have to be any one or two of these guys. It could be a combination of 6-8 of these players having solid individual first halves during the next 3-4 seasons.
2014 would be my earliest projected AS year for Arenado, and I also think that’s rather optimistic. 2015 is probably about right.
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by cthabeerman on Feb 20, 2012 12:01 PM MST up reply actions
Garret Atkins says hello
you know the guy who at age 26 posted a line of
Home .346/.416/.583 15 HR 25 2B 36BB 33K
Road .313/.402/.531 14 HR 1 3B 24 2B 43BB 43K
Bad things like this have to eventually hit our division rivals too.
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oh, garrett
why did you have to get fat
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I saw something about him the other day
a tweet from Renck I think that said he’s retired and in business in SoCal. He said he had a high business accumen and thought he was best prepared for life after baseball. I can’t find it now but it was something to that effect
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by WhiskeyDrinkingMan on Feb 20, 2012 12:37 PM MST up reply actions
A .400 road wOBA for a Rockie is Helton territory
how sad is it that the one time when the Rockies have the highest pick in franchise history, the best bat in the Draft(Longoria) has to be the same postition(3B) as our top prospect Stewart(#4 BA prospect pre 05 #16 pre 06) and Atkins who was murdering the ball in MLB?
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Greg Reynolds
Has a sad at Cracker Barrel or something.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 12:58 PM MST up reply actions
I will never hate the Greg Reynolds pick
the way I hate Casey Weathers pick. Wasting a top 10 draft pick on a reliever is inexcusable, if we didn’t see a major glaring need in 08 we should have drafted a HS kid. Some examples of HS kids taken in the 70 picks following Casey Weathers @ .#8
.#9 Jarod Parker
.#10 Madison Bumgarner
.#14 Jason Heyward
.#15 Devin Mesoraco
.#27 Rick Porcello
.#28 Ben Revere
.#76 Mike Stanton
.#78 Freddie Freeman
There were some nice college pitchers like Luebke, and Jordan Zimmerman too just the act of intentionally picking the least valuable kind of player on the diamond just angers me deeply.
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and he sucked so bad
like, if he immediately became a shutdown reliever like kimbrel or storen, it would have been one thing, but no, he had to have tommy john and be terrible
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I know he got hurt but even if he didn't
look at guys like Buchholtz, or Belisle failed starters who become great relievers. Even Mo Rivera got blown up as a starter first. they thing that make me made is drafting a 22yo who has a ceiling of Closer, when you have a 22yo Manny Corpas and a 24yo Ramon Ramirez in the bullpen. Why waste a chance at the 8th best talent in the draft on someone who at his peak will be worth 3WAR?
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I love the masochism here
But both were incredibly ummmmmmm “unfortunate”. Perhaps the best thing you could say is these two draft picks are like looking at the dog crap in your living room and making the comment, “Well, at least we dont have a horse”
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by El Paso Jeff on Feb 20, 2012 1:35 PM MST up reply actions
Well one was defensible as Reynolds
profiled as a workhouse groundball machine(think Derrick Lowe)
Whereas Weathers best case was what? Brad Lidge? a wild RH fireballer? above average RH relievers have to be the cheapest easiest thing in baseball to find.
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Yes, he can...
but the kid is only 20 and his AFL stint was only a month of ABs. Let’s see more of that first before promoting him to the majors.
i think its a pretty safe bet he won’t be starting in the majors
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 20, 2012 9:25 AM MST up reply actions
I expect him to be in Tulsa to start the season.
And if he needs the whole year absolutely fine with it. But if he is crushing it down there I want him up here. i don’t expect it until July.
The only people who say this, are the people who have never seen Arenado in person..
The kid is only 20 and his AFL stint was only a month of ABs. Let’s see more of that first before promoting him to the majors.
Just watch him in person and you’ll know how special of a hitter he is. Not Jim Tracy special, real special.
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They’re looking for a lefty bat, so not Vlad. One out of Matsui or Ibanez…
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why not Damon?
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 20, 2012 9:14 AM MST up reply actions
I don’t think he offers as much for some reason I guess. Honestly they’re all pretty interchangeable and it would just come down to cost. Ibanez probably costs the least…
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i just think it is comical that the /yanks are looking for a "cheap" option.
Never thought I’d see the day.
Maybe they are realizing they can't count on getting funded by a city/state
That is just about bankrupt.
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What is really funny is that this CBA caps spending
at a time when a lot of different teams are suddenly going to be flush with cash(ATL has to get a good one eventually right?, national recognition, regional team for Tennessee, the Carolinas, Alabama, and parts of of Florida and Mississippi) meaning the Sox and Yanks won’t be able to crush everyone else’s payroll.
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Sadly...
Time-Warner gave a peach of a TV deal that basically handicaps the Braves through 2027, as far as that additional revenue is concerned.
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by cthabeerman on Feb 20, 2012 12:13 PM MST up reply actions
Revenue likely to end up in Washington and Florida's pockets
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Florida’s may come, but I think the Marlins still have dismal ratings as well as attendance. There’s just no interest in that team, as it stands now. Could begin to change soon, but the only info I can find on their tv rights is that they signed a long-term deal with FSN Florida in 2006, so I doubt it’s nearly as lucrative as it could be and they’re probably locked in for awhile.
Washington is in a better boat, but their TV rights are actually owned by the Orioles currently. The Nationals ownership does have a limited minority stake that may rise to as much as 33 percent by 2030 or so. That said, if they’re the team dominating the ratings in that area, the payout for the rights themselves may be fairly lucrative in future negotiations. They’re currently getting paid $29MM/year for the rights. They have a “reset” coming up in which the deal would be renegotiated, and some say they could get 2-3 times as much.
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Florida’s may come, but I think the Marlins still have dismal ratings as well as attendance. There’s just no interest in that team, as it stands now.
gotta disagree with this; they just spent a boatload of money to become instant contenders in the NL east and are opening a swanky new stadium. for the effect that a nice, new ballpark can have on formerly disinterested fans, look no further than philly and citizen’s bank park
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Except they won’t become instant contenders and their stadium has only enough parking capacity to fill it up about halfway.
The closer you pay attention to the Marlins’ situation, the more you begin to realize that it’s not nearly as rosy as people make it out to be.
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you don't think the marlins can contend this year?
please explain
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Sure.
The additions of Reyes, Buehrle, and Bell have a maximum gain of about 12 WAR. Even a healthy Josh Johnson and a bounceback Hanley puts them at about 90 wins tops, and that’s if everyone’s healthy and productive. So, best-case, they’re true contenders.
However, you’re going to have plenty of dysfunction in the clubhouse between Ozzie, Zambrano, Reyes/Hanley, Lomo, etc. Everything is not going to be cool at all times. There’s going to be plenty of dysfunction that’s going to drive the team down. There’s going to be finger pointing, there’s going to be outcrying to the media (and media outcry as well).
Toss in a money-grubbing owner that’s as prone to run his mouth and play favorites, an unfixable parking issue that’s going to limit attendance and fan interest (for a park the city and its people are already pissed about paying for because Loria’s books got opened during the project), and it’s got a real chance to go south very quickly.
A new ballpark is a boon for a functional organization. The Marlins are not a functional organization, from the owner down to the players, and this situation could easily blow up.
I haven’t even discussed injuries, but you have Reyes and Johnson as prime candidates for chronic issues as well as all the inevitable injuries that will occur elsewhere.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
interesting take
i’m one of the people who, to steal from brian kenny’s CHC commercials, “prefers to focus on the tangibles,” so i don’t usually put a lot of stock in concerns about the wacky clubhouse the could have (though it should be hilarious, especially if they suck), and am probably rosier on them than i realistically should be, but that’s the game we all play as fans, i suppose.
do you have any good links about this parking issue? i’d love to read more about it
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http://marlinmaniac.com/2012/02/07/marlins-park-potential-transportation-nightmare/
Money quote:
The ballpark provides for 5,700 spots divided among four parking garages which are limited to season ticket holders. To reach maximum capacity about 11,000 spots are needed.
…
Such issues may be common when considering other new ballparks, but usually parking concerns are generally alleviated with the prevalent use of public transportation. Neither the team nor the city government has set up convenient public transportation to the ballpark.
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It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
thanks
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except you are counting on all the young Braves maintaining or taking a step forward
while not accounting for what Lomo, Stanton, Coughlan, Bonafacio, Sanchez, Sanchez or Nolasco could do by taking the next step forward.
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that's not necessarily incorrect
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/braves-bet-on-regression-to-the-mean/
medlen will be in the pen after his TJ, teheran, delgado, and vizcaino could all see time this year, beachy should only get better, heyward should get better, prado should get better, full season of bourn, no more lowe
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Both team "should" get better
but I think Rockies fans who watched 2011 ought to be able to point out the difference between can and will.
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but all you can do is bet on should
no one knows what’s going to happen, and the odds are definitely in favor of the braves staying good with minimal changes
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Maybe but that pitching staff has injury concerns
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no more than any other
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Hanson and Jurrjens
both are decent sized risks and Huddy is getting up there
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I don’t believe I even mentioned the Braves.
Now that they’ve come up, yes, I expect the team to look much more like it did from April-August of last season rather than the injury-plagued September team that fell from 4th in MLB to 9-10th.
I don’t expect Heyward to have season-long injuries, I don’t expect Dan Uggla to have a half-season slump, I don’t expect Prado to get a staph infection. I don’t expect Minor/Teheran/Delgado to pitch as poorly as Lowe, and I don’t expect Pastornicky to get on base at below a .270 clip. I don’t expect Scott Proctor to make the 25-man roster.
I don’t expect 3/5 of the rotation to hit the DL or miss starts in the final two months (although the organization would be able to handle that situation significantly better this season as compared to last, since the replacements were really up against innings limitations last year).
With the exception of the last paragraph, all that (and more, didn’t even mention McCann’s injury) happened and the team was still fourth best in baseball going into the final month.
Likewise, I don’t expect O’Ventbrel to be as dominating, and I really don’t expect Freeman to post numbers nearly as good as last season. I don’t expect Beachy to be quite as good, either, though I do think that the fear of heavy regression is overblown.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
How did Jon Niese spend his offseason?
Got a nose job (to help with breathing).
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Just so long as it wasn't a Star Wars baroom nose job.
How are you Russ? Just finished reading 1421.
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Doing all right.
The Gavin Menzies book?
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Yes; Enjoyed it emensely.
I have thought along similar lines for years but did not have anywhere near that detail to back it up. I knew about the wrecks and his Bimini Road theory was something I considered too
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you know it's like, made up, right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1421:_The_Year_China_Discovered_the_World#Criticism
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I don't think so and revisionist history is always critisized.
Some times the revision makes sense and other times it doesn’t. A lot of Historians agree that Columbus Pretty well scammed Isabella.
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"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
there's a difference between criticized
and universally derided by scholars over the world as fiction, as menzies’s work is
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Kind of like being derided by SABRmaticians and Global Warming alarmists.
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not really comparable at all
menzies’s work has literally no historical legitimacy to it, from the premise alone to what he considers “evidence”, whereas there’s lots of mathematical and scientific proof in favor of man-influenced climate change as well as the legitimacy of sabremetric principles.
seriously, find 3 respected, peer-reviewed sources that agree with his premise.
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It's funny how one can utterly torpedo one's own credibility by denying climate change.
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There is a gulf of difference between looking sceptically
at those who attempt to use post hoc ergo propter hoc arguments to support their existing agenda, and denying that something that literally can not remain constant is changing.
This isn’t the place to talk about stuff like this, I am not saying another word here.
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Are you suggesting climate change scientists have an agenda?
An agenda than “hey guys, can we try not to completely [REDACTED] up the planet we have to live on”, you mean? That’s what gets me most about deniers (well, that and how they stick their fingers in their ears in the face of massive and overwhelming evidence) – if there’s even a chance you’re destroying everything, is it not responsible, wise even, to make efforts not to?
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not having this conversation here, check your blog
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adds a different dimension to the “Best Shape of his career”
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 20, 2012 11:53 AM MST up reply actions
I wrote an article today.
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by Franchise26 on Feb 20, 2012 10:33 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
I very much enjoy your work
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 20, 2012 10:48 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Very nice piece of work. Rec'd
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by Roxman4ever on Feb 20, 2012 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
Ian Stewart stalled on the precipice?
“Ian Stewart hopped into a full gas tanker, filled the cab with fireworks, then gunned it into the precipice while lighting the fuse” might be slightly closer to the truth, no?
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I remember watching Casey Blake highlights when he played for Wichita State.
He was pretty good then. Now, I get to watch him in a Rockies uniform.
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I think Blake will be much like Mora was in 2010
He’ll be serviceable at 3B and put up intelligent ABs at the plate – good plate coverage, always making the pitcher work to get him out.
Let’s just hope that the rest of the lineup performs much better than it did in 2010, when Mora was probably its 3rd most productive player.
by Northsider1964 on Feb 20, 2012 10:51 AM MST reply actions
I agree with this assessment, and would be extremely happy if Blake produces similarly to Melvin.
I would also be extremely happy if Tracy doesn’t attempt to bat Blake cleanup/5th, as he often did with Melvin.
You will hate it when Tracy puts him at 2B
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For all you fantasy players out there
I already have the top 2 locked up.
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They have Raffy going for 32 saves. Nice.
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Feb 20, 2012 5:35 PM MST up reply actions
One of these players is not like the others
Dogging it on the first day of ST? Not encoraging…
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Its the Reds
At least it’s not the Rox
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probably the guy in the
“draw me like one of your french girls” pose in the bottom right
Is it April yet?
by Rosenort on Feb 20, 2012 11:33 AM MST up reply actions 5 recs
i thought it was the guy in shorts on the left
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Excellent...
Baseball, BBQ, Bourbon, Blackjack, Beer, (B)orse Racing
by WhiskeyDrinkingMan on Feb 20, 2012 12:26 PM MST up reply actions
Rec'in dis
even though the image is more than a little disturbing…
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by Junction Rox on Feb 20, 2012 12:28 PM MST up reply actions
Except for the fact that what he is doing is a valid stretch for your lower back....
It's Jim Tracy's Fault.
Jeez, guys, I was trying to make a slightly humorous remark.
Next time I’ll slightly misquote a line from Star Trek and let you at it.
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by biondino on Feb 20, 2012 4:21 PM MST up reply actions 4 recs
don't you even joke about that
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haha i dont do it often but this gets a rec
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Make it like so...
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by Junction Rox on Feb 20, 2012 4:24 PM MST up reply actions
Weird, I'm watching the "Star Trek" remake right now..
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ahem
you mean, non-canonical reboot
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No, I mean the awesome
2009 reboot that was terrific and a nice homage to the original series.
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oh yeah it was awesome
but i do believe it is not viewed as canon
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By whom?
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Pachelbel
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by Junction Rox on Feb 20, 2012 4:33 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
It is canon
because it’s technically in a different universe than the rest of the series’. Hence why Kirk and Spock hated each other and Spock and Uhura are hooking up. So any new films can do whatever they want and they won’t mess up the rest of Trek’s continuity. Pretty darn clever, if you ask me.
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yes
i discovered this upon digging a little harder
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by Greg Stanwood on Feb 20, 2012 5:44 PM MST up reply actions
Sorry, sorry :(
I don’t post in Rockpiles all that much, forgot about the OT rules
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Not a big deal. :)
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by Greg Stanwood on Feb 20, 2012 5:49 PM MST up reply actions
YES
Thank you lord. I’m not a Trekkie (I have extremely limited experience with TNG – meaning I’ve watched like 3 eps), but the reboot was an objectively awesome movie.
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So we don't get yelled at we should take it to the OT
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I watched it Friday or Saturday night
when it was on Fx (or wherever). First time since seeing it in the theater. Holds up pretty well, although I’m really not crazy about some of the changes they made to the original series or characters (one romantic relationship in particular seemed like a HUGE stretch to me…)
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by Junction Rox on Feb 20, 2012 4:32 PM MST up reply actions
Hey. I recorded it last night and that's what I'm watching
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This is green now
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by Roxman4ever on Feb 20, 2012 12:42 PM MST up reply actions
He's stretching, like everyone else.
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by CentralCaliRox on Feb 20, 2012 1:48 PM MST up reply actions
What is Billy Beane on?
First Yoenis, now this. I suppose it’s just $500k.
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Best possible place for him.
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Where? The waiver wire
after about a month?
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 11:56 AM MST up reply actions
He's a free lotto ticket
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exactly
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 20, 2012 11:58 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah I know
I’m just letting my personal hatred of the guy blind me to the fact that taking a flier on him is actually a decent decision. Funny story, I was at the game where Manny made his last AB as a Dodger.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 12:00 PM MST up reply actions
Imagine if the 08 Rays had signed Bonds to 4 million dollar deal sure he would have been 43
but Bonds had just put together 126 games of .276/.480/.565.
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now that's a scary thought
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This is pretty standard Beane actually
Remember Frank Thomas? He signed him twice when everyone thought he was done. He signed Jason Giambi in 09 too. Although that didn’t work out like Thomas did.
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by purplesocks on Feb 20, 2012 12:56 PM MST up reply actions
That's true
I shouldn’t be surprised, this is a total David Justice signing, except cheaper.
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Verducci on SI
Writes a season preview column and makes two mistakes regarding the Rockies. First, he mentioned Arenado as a potential star but got his age wrong (Said 22). Verducci also said we added Mark Ellis.
Not big stuff, but irritating to me :)
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very irritating, especially for what he gets paid and who he writes for. Mistakes happen, but stuff like this tells me there truly is an “east-coast” bias. An overraction? Maybe…
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 20, 2012 12:11 PM MST up reply actions
the arenado thing is whatever, the ellis thing is just plain dumb
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 20, 2012 12:14 PM MST up reply actions
Simple, easy mistakes
I wonder what else he’s missing on?
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Need a higher rez shot of that.
I need a new desktop wallpaper.
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That picture shouldn’t end up on this website, which has made me laugh today.
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Just copy and paste it in the body.
Don’t need to get fancy with the html.
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It was a great day when Maria M
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All Hail Maria M
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Friedrich
Not sure what to make of this in terms of how he’ll do this year, but Renck’s blog post today said Friedrich has gone from 240lbs at the end of last year to 205 today. That’s kind of eye-popping. Hope he rebounds this year.
Was Dan O'Dowd
call him a “fatty” at one point?
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He doesn't look like a fatty to me....
Examples.
non-fatty:
fatty:
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Feb 20, 2012 1:31 PM MST up reply actions
is that picture from the end of the season, though?
that’s when he’s reported to weigh 240
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CC is listed as 290 lbs
I think they look like they have a 50 lb difference in weight at the least.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 1:33 PM MST up reply actions
and friedrich is listed on b-ref as 215
i’m starting to wonder how much these things might be fudged
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and friedrich is listed on b-ref as 215
i’m starting to wonder how much these things might be fudged
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Love this
Matt Belise on why he was open to a contract extension with the Rockies. "I want to hold the trophy here. And I really believe it can happen,"
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Glad to see he did something different because whatever approach he had been taking was horrible.
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Following his twitter feed this offseason he played a lot of NHL video games.
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healthy humans
don’t weigh 240, unless they’re serious weightlifters or CC sabathia
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Jason Heyward weighs 240
and he is a rock
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that doesn't seem right
i mean, he’s 6’5", so it’s certainly possible he could if he were jacked enough, but he looks too lean to weight that much
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Brian Urlacher is about 6'4" 240+
and he is pretty lean.
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Mike Stanton is listed as 235
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yeah i'm not saying it's impossible
just improbable
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I was just saying that John Elway was listed as 6'3" 215 and so was Ed McCaffery
people definitely carry their weight differently
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too much time at the Kilkenny's Irish Pub in Tulsa perhaps?
/so much tasty, tasty food there….
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Feb 20, 2012 1:25 PM MST up reply actions
Wrong
Completely wrong. And not just in calling Sabathia a “healthy human”…
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by Junction Rox on Feb 20, 2012 1:27 PM MST up reply actions
ideal weight ranges for a 24 year old 6'4" male
from what i can tell max out around 230
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Being outside the "ideal" weight range
does not mean a person can’t be healthy.
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by Junction Rox on Feb 20, 2012 1:41 PM MST up reply actions
and
friedrich famously wasn’t healthy last year, and if he was really weighing that much, that probably played a significant part in it
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actually, Friedrich was healthy in 2011.
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i stand corrected
ahem: friedrich famously wasn’t healthy sucked last year, and if he was really weighing that much, that probablymay have played a significant part in it
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He showed flashes last year, but definitely needs a big 2012 to put his name back into the mix.
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looking at his gamelogs on FG
he only had 2 outings where he didn’t give up a run, 2 that made it past the 7th inning, and 0 with more than 7 Ks…
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See? Flashes.
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Honestly though, sub 3 ERA (LOL) in May and June, a K/9 over 8 those months, and a 3.12 K/BB ratio.
Friedrich had a disastrous second half of the season, but there were some pretty good signs in May and June. (That being said, I’m still very concerned about his future. He was extremely hittable last year)
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and he'll be in the springs rotation this year, right?
gonna be tough for him
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His outing against the Rockies
was very flashy and gave most of us here a lot of hope
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Man, showed up to camp in the best shape of his career
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
by waterboy31321 on Feb 20, 2012 1:23 PM MST up reply actions
Renck, reporting on Scrappy reporting to get scrappier
Yes. Saw him this morning RT @abelzabalareyes: Jonathan Herrera already reported to spring training?
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
#openingdaystarterat2B
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#Guaranteelastplacefinishifthathappens
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 20, 2012 1:30 PM MST up reply actions
watch your mouth
this is a family site!!
The Big Purple Machine will make a believer outta you!
by El Paso Jeff on Feb 20, 2012 1:36 PM MST up reply actions
About knitting.
I don’t know why we’re discussing baseball.
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by Russ Oates on Feb 20, 2012 1:37 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
knitting?
i thought this was a tim tebow fan site…
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Giant snowman Tim Tebow fan site.
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Pshaw
This site is a discussion board for which season of The Wire is the best, obvi.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 1:40 PM MST up reply actions
The best Houston Astros knitting site on the web
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Feb 20, 2012 1:41 PM MST up reply actions
But seriously,
we just launched a water polo blog: The Skip Shot.
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"water polo is tougher than you all think"
that’ll endear new fans!
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.
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
Luftfeuchtigkeitsregler über alles.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Feb 20, 2012 1:37 PM MST up reply actions
tracyhead.gif
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FANTASTIC piece
By Sam Fuld on Grantland. Maybe I like it so much just because the emotions remind me of game 163 in 2007.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 1:31 PM MST reply actions
That is a great piece
And he’s a brilliant writer! I’m going to keep an eye on this chap.
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I was insanely skeptical at first
But then I couldn’t stop reading. Great great piece. So interesting to see it play out from his perspective, especially because he was benched so Johnson could tie it up.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 4:42 PM MST up reply actions
dan johnson?
dan johnson.
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hahaha, the Yankees signed Raul Ibanez.
/raul.gif
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Feb 20, 2012 1:49 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Still not as good as the Ryan Theriot attempting the double play at SS GIF
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Kind of ironic
how that was at Yankee Stadium and on YES.
Rockies in October
by sasperilla_pete on Feb 20, 2012 1:53 PM MST up reply actions
I love that the camera guy
Doesn’t lose track of the ball… well done.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 1:53 PM MST up reply actions
...to DH
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
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I wonder if the Yanks
are expecting ’09 Ibañez to show up.
Rockies in October
by sasperilla_pete on Feb 20, 2012 2:00 PM MST up reply actions
playing exclusively against RHP, primarily in yankee stadium, fenway, camden, and rogers?
that’s a pretty decent bet
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Best typo ever...
Tracy Ringolsby @TracyRingolsby
Just finished baseball preview for Playboy. Don’t kiss it. May edition. Avaialable on stands in late March. Great excuse to pick up the mag.
Yes, he later amended to “don’t miss it”. I liked it better this way…
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Feb 20, 2012 1:53 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
He was pretty flustered
Also note “Avaialable.” Maybe he was dictating it. HIYO.
Rockies in October
by sasperilla_pete on Feb 20, 2012 1:55 PM MST up reply actions
The new baseball season is here!
The new baseball season is here! We’re somebody!
Rockies in October
by sasperilla_pete on Feb 20, 2012 1:58 PM MST reply actions
Things are going to start happening to me!
This seems like more of a parallel to 2011 than anything :-)
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 2:00 PM MST up reply actions
Sniper pulls up and puts one in the elbow of
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Get well soon Juan.
I had
<insert name of rockies starting line up pitcher>
But angle brackets are html tags.
Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
Stay away from the pitchers!
Rockies in October
by sasperilla_pete on Feb 20, 2012 2:06 PM MST up reply actions
oooo. MLBN has the best 9 PH in MLB history on now...
VanDerWal only at 9? List invalidated..
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
Luftfeuchtigkeitsregler über alles.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Feb 20, 2012 2:03 PM MST reply actions
i love prime 9
the announcer’s voice is the best
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Troy, why did you grow a mohawk?
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Feb 20, 2012 2:07 PM MST reply actions
CarGo rubbing off on him?
A pending Brohawkmance?
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Renck or Tulo?
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Feb 20, 2012 2:12 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Looks more like a high top fade to me.
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Get well soon Juan.
I'm just glad the mullet is gone
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this is correct
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Keep in mind
it was for charity.
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by sasperilla_pete on Feb 20, 2012 2:17 PM MST up reply actions
Doesn't it make it any better to look at:)
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Is anyone going to be reporting from ST for the Row?
Would love to get some fan perspective down there.
Rockies in October
by sasperilla_pete on Feb 20, 2012 2:14 PM MST reply actions
I usually go for nine days
The last time I missed, Tulo had 1 career home run and Garrett Atkins was better than Matt Hollyiday. I’ll miss out this year. I believe Greg is going, and likely a lot more.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 20, 2012 2:17 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Matt Hollyiday?
That guy sucked.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 2:18 PM MST up reply actions
Couldn't grow facial hair
I know you’re biased.
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Get well soon Juan.
Lol
The ironic thing about the handle is that when I try to grow a beard (or any facial hair for that matter) I look like I’m about 14 years old.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 2:22 PM MST up reply actions
yes
"Some guy on the net thinks I suck, and he should know - he's got his own blog." - Nick Hornby
"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 20, 2012 2:26 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Man, I could have sworn I shaved
before the Mute Math concert… oh well :-)
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 2:36 PM MST up reply actions
I have blonde facial hair
I have had a goatee in the past (I’m ashamed to post this picture), but this is me after about a week and a half of growth
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Get well soon Juan.
Lol that's respectable
I have a couple blonde friends who did mustache march last year… it was sad – you couldn’t tell anything was even happening.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 2:33 PM MST up reply actions
He looks pissed
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
Todd Helton 2012:
Now with more grizzly.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Feb 20, 2012 3:29 PM MST up reply actions
Exactly. Pissed because of last year.
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
Media types
best not interact with Todd Helton.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 4:08 PM MST up reply actions
I see gray........
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
Luftfeuchtigkeitsregler über alles.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Feb 20, 2012 3:31 PM MST up reply actions
Same here
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You do realize that if we go to the World Series this year
You are not allowed to go to Spring Training next season right?
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 20, 2012 10:09 PM MST up reply actions
FFFF
"Some guy on the net thinks I suck, and he should know - he's got his own blog." - Nick Hornby
"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 20, 2012 10:18 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
So, Do I drag the wife and kids to Milwaukee on April 19th - 20th
To see the Rox and then go to Chicago two weeks later?
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Get well soon Juan.
I would.
My wife wants to go to Arizona and watch a ballgame. She’s not a D-Backs fan. Its actually closer to us than Denver now.:(( She also wants to go to San Diego just so she can possibly watch Street pitch. She wants to go to different ballparks.
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I really want to.
I just don’t know how my family would do with two trips in two weeks.
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Get well soon Juan.
If they are true baseball fans. They would love it and not be bothered by all the travel.
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
They are young.
6, 4 and 1. My oldest can’t wait to play T-Ball this year, and both my boys really love the game.
If I can get my wife to just let me go, then there is no question, but its likely that she will want to make it a family affair.
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Get well soon Juan.
You have a toddler right?
That might be rough
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are you coming back home in between?
or extended vacation?
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yeah, that would be tough
how old are your kids? missing school might be a factor
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Kids are homeschooled
So they never miss school.
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Get well soon Juan.
More promising signs from Nicasio's pitching sessions in the DR
Linky – I know it’s been said ad nauseum, but it truly is an amazing story
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I love him so much
I have a friend who obsesses over hockey, and all she ever wants to say about baseball is that the players are sissies… Nicasio is my go to case study to shut her up.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 2:55 PM MST up reply actions
did he add a pitch?
He threw 27 pitches, 19 strikes, and his fastball ranged from 92-97 mph and averaged 96 mph. He averaged 87 mph with his slider and 84 mph with his changeup.
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sounds like he could drop a tick or two off that change
maybe ole “one mississippi, two mississippi” can help him with that at SRFATS
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that said,
i cannot wait for this kid to come back to coors field, because that place will shake when he takes the mound
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and show the opposing team that he has ice water in his veins
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
Love this pic of CarGo from Renck
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lol
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/2/20/2810962/mariners-leadoff-ichiro-figgins-yeah
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Someone does have to lead off. It's the rules.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 4:11 PM MST up reply actions
It should be the first baseman...
followed by the second baseman batting second.
/Tracy’d
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Feb 20, 2012 4:16 PM MST up reply actions
Alternatively...
it can be the player wearing number1 who bats first, followed by the player wearing 2…
"Surgeons have determined that doing the wave will, yes, will cause tears to the suprapinatus muscle and the infraspinatus muscle from the throwing of an individual's arms rapidly into the air. In addition, any children doing the wave will be sold to the circus. Do NOT do the wave in the ballpark. Doing the wave is safe at pro football games and Miley Cyrus concerts.
-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
BTW, I love these polls....
asking if Player XYZ is “capable” of having a near-league average season. OF COURSE Blake, in this case, is CAPABLE since he has done it before, as recently as 2010. The real question is “will he do it”?
So the 78% who say Yes to that poll probably understates what should have been the result if people read the wording carefully. It really should have been closer to 90% since it’’s really not much of a debate as to whether he is capable or not, at this point.
I'm not sure he'll stay healthy enough
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"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
Me either.
I voted “no” because I agree – I think he’ll play maybe 60-80 games. I was just making a lame occupy hash tag joke :-)
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 4:13 PM MST up reply actions
he was 1.1 WAR in 63 games last year
i think he can do it again, if not a little better
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He just has to not be a negative.
Some days, I feel like I’ve accidentally entered the Church of Tulowitzki on Baseball Easter.
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And if he is a negative (during ST at least)
His contract is non-guaranteed. However, I get the feeling that if he does suck, he’ll pull a Herrera and pull the wool over our eyes by hitting .972 during ST and the first two weeks of the season, and then collapsing.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 4:31 PM MST up reply actions
But I think he is capable of staying healthy enough
that’s no guarantee that he will, of course..
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Feb 20, 2012 4:17 PM MST up reply actions
He shaved his beard!
He does look good in Rockies purple though
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
He said that with all the grey he has to keep it trimmed
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
All the age that we have now on the team.
We may want to stay away from the grey uniforms. They would be camoflouged out there.
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
by Roxman4ever on Feb 20, 2012 3:54 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
From Rockies Twitter
#Rockies & Manager Jim Tracy have a handshake agreement for Tracy to continue to be a part of the organization’s leadership team.
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What does this mean?
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Don't screw up
And you get to stick around.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 4:51 PM MST up reply actions
The question is how long does the handshake last??
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IDK...
Seems the organization is (to an extent) misplacing the blame here. IF the clubhouse problem is the reason we failed to the extent that we did in 2011, and IF they really did have a clubhouse problem, JIM *%&% TRACY is the one responsible for fixing that clubhouse problem. From what I saw (I know we don’t get to see a lot of what goes on behind the scenes), it did NOT seem like he was lighting a fire under anyone’s butt. It almost seems counter-intuitive to enter into a “gentlemen’s agreement”-type extension with a manager after the WHOLE team failed so magnificently the last two years.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 4:56 PM MST up reply actions
I don't think the manager is the sole person responsible.
I think the players are equally responsible, especially if part of it is some players not taking responsibility for their own actions (i.e., performance, preparation, etc.). They’re grown men. There’s only so much a manager can do, and Tracy said himself he spent way more time in the clubhouse than he would like to. Sure, we could say that he must have went about it the wrong way or was just incapable of fixing the problem, but since we don’t have any insight into behind the scenes stuff, there’s no way of telling whether any other manager would have been more successful.
I agree
But to commend the manager by telling him he’ll “continue to be a part of the team’s leadership” after the team has had two of the most disappointing seasons in franchise history seems… not right to me.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 6:26 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe not
I guess I’m just hoping Special J is held accountable the way Ubaldo, Stewie, CDI, Smith and Street were if we see another disappointing season. Last year we got a lot of “this is player X’s last chance, this is player y’s chance to step up to the plate,” and when they didn’t, they were held accountable. I don’t see why JT isn’t being held to that same standard.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 20, 2012 7:00 PM MST up reply actions
Vote of Confidence issued...
the clock can be started…
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-scoreboard announcement at Ranger Ballpark in Arlington via Baseball Nation.
That's kind of what I was thinking
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Yep, that was pretty much my thinking.
Everyone knows his contract is up after this season. It was bound to come up, and this seems like the typical answer.
It means that Jim Tracy will be around as long as DOD is.
Angel, Angel, we go down together.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwJeBtjkjOU
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by DumbAndNerdy on Feb 20, 2012 8:10 PM MST up reply actions
Some people
thought the same with Tracy’s predecessor
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"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~Greg, age 8
Assistant GM of the PRMLB Cincinnati Reds
JFK
Dan O’Dowd: “We expect this relationship to continue for a number of years.” Continued…
Dan O’Dowd:“We are building a culture of value together in a world of performance.”
"No Mission Too Difficult, No Sacrifice Too Great—Duty First" - 1st Infantry Division Motto
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O’Dowd went on to add, “A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.” He then encouraged all players to ask themselves, “Is this good for the company?” Then I kicked myself for rooting for this stupid baseball team.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
Okay, new plan. We pull a 2009.
Suck ’til May, get Tracy fired, hired somebody competent, stop sucking, ride this thing to the playoffs.
I’m all for that, but I was more making fun of how absolutely ridiculous it is to say things like "We are building a culture of value together in a world of performance." Like, what the shit does that even mean? It sounds like the worst corporate slogan ever.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
by Franchise26 on Feb 20, 2012 5:15 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Dude, it was on the mission statement..HELLLOOO :D
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Oh, I completely agree it's a bunch of nonsense.
Sounds like a slogan from Dunder Mifflin.
“Infinite paper in a paperless world.”
Nice! I’m sure if we try really hard we could come up with a whole list of corporate slogans that are dumber than this one, but they’d all come from comedy TV and movies, and ours is a real life thing, and somebody was completely serious when they said/wrote it.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
Needs more synergy.
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When I read this gobbledigook...
I wonder if this braintrust even knows what it’s doing. Seems like double-talking platitudes to keep ’em off balance. Worked for Casey Stengel, I suppose.
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by papality on Feb 20, 2012 4:54 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
This gets a rec'd.
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Tracey extended???
why???
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Feb 20, 2012 5:34 PM MST up reply actions
It didnt say that they he was extended.
Handshake means nothing unless its on paper. Just curious. Are you new here?
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not at all
I don’t comment here as frequently as I used to……I go way back with a few here. Some may like me, some may not.
What is the handshake for then if he wasn’t extended?
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Feb 20, 2012 7:32 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe just to say hi?
That’s how I greet someone when I haven’t seen them in a while.
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I'm pretty
sure there is an inappropriate joke here.
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I think it means he'll be "Peter Pricepaled" sideways in the Orginization ;instead of outrightkicked to the curb
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Princepaled
"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana
Principled...
Back in the ’80s, I tried to get Victoria Principaled. She called security. Awkward.
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The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
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by Since1993 on Feb 20, 2012 8:16 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
what does leadership team mean?
and could that me a front office job and not necessarily the team manager?
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by Paleface Destro on Feb 20, 2012 6:17 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Alright then.
Lead us to the playoffs, Jim. You’re our manager, the guy they want. If the Rockies trust you that much, I guess all I can do is trust you as well.
MOYER IS OUR SAVIOR
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by CentralCaliRox on Feb 20, 2012 6:31 PM MST up reply actions
what the bleep.
I'M SORRY I WAS EVER MAD AT YOU, ROCKIES! COME BACK TO ME! I LOVE YOU!!
by prettyinpurple on Feb 20, 2012 6:48 PM MST up reply actions
I think Tracy Ringolsby is right in this case:
@RockiesReview Too much made out of the handshake. All it means is Rockies don’t want to get involved in a day to day update on mgr status.
I think it is handshake because both sides don’t want every writer showing up in the spring asking about Tracy’s contract
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AkTBSaWh_mSEygSpWsCWqBQ5nYcB?slug=ap-rockies-tracyextension
NOOOOOOOOOOO
by Purple Row Troll on Feb 20, 2012 6:21 PM MST reply actions
Whoops, I meant:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;ylt=AkTBSaWhmSEygSpWsCWqBQ5nYcB?slug=ap-rockies-tracyextension
NOOOOOOOO
by Purple Row Troll on Feb 20, 2012 6:22 PM MST up reply actions
Why oh why must we be tortured?
Indefinate extension…That is what Tulo and Cargo need. Not Jim Tracy…Master of Matchupzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Indefinate here I think does not mean what we think it means
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They dont know exactly sure how long he will be here.
Secret meaning behind that shake. You have 3 months until your out of here.
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that's not renck's interpretation
just tweeted that people shouldn’t be asking about his status if we have a losing streak
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FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Feb 20, 2012 7:55 PM MST up reply actions
anybody follow jose canseco on twitter?
he’s hilarious
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Yes, thanks to Celebrity Apprentice.
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by Greg Stanwood on Feb 20, 2012 6:46 PM MST up reply actions
i'd love it if an MLB team signed him
even just to a minor league deal
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Hey, he's younger than Jamie Moyer.
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by Greg Stanwood on Feb 20, 2012 6:49 PM MST up reply actions
plus
bat speed
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If I have no bat speed at 47 then y does the ball go so far when I hit it ?
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The needle can though
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
Funniest Twitter feeds:
1) horse_ebooks
2) the_ironsheik
That’s the list.
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i dunno, brandon mccarthy and lomo are really good
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mccarthy's wife is really funny too
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Since we're on the topic of twitter,
I have to say it.
@horse_ebooks + @TrippingOlney = @TracyRingolsby
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someone needs to explain @horse_ebooks to me
something has gone over my head
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 20, 2012 8:20 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
same here
it’s kind of funny just for the sheer weirdness i guess, but otherwise… meh
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i can't remember where, but i read an article about him playing independent ball a while back
it was very interesting
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here it is,
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=caple_jim&id=6737576
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tripping olney kills it:
http://twitter.com/#!/TrippingOlney/status/171760265707270145
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People make too much out of the "lameduck" coach or manager status
that only applies to college sports, where recruiting is essential. Pro athletes generall don’t care who the coach/manager is or isn’t. They play for money; they enjoy certain cities and franchises; they enjoy teamates. These are all more important than the coach/manager
by blake street beer on Feb 20, 2012 6:56 PM MST reply actions
We (meaning someone with skills and admin power)
should update the countdown clock to Rockies Opening Day in Houston
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I hope.
Need something to change my sig line everyday
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Meh. I'm kind of with the company line on this one.
While I agree Tracy is a below average manager who probably costs us a couple games every year compared to average, and started wanting someone new in there last May, I don’t think he’s played a particularly big role in the disasters that were 2010 and 2011. I believe it when management says we’ve had a really really bad mix of personalities and skill sets these past couple of years. It just hasn’t worked. That’s really not Tracy’s fault, and to his credit (and I’ll get killed for saying this) he’s tried to make it work by tinkering and moving guys around. I don’t mind giving him a shot at a team that’s much older and more mature, and which he’ll just have to manage, as opposed to psycho-analyze.
That said, I also agree with Ringolsby. This isn’t much for Tracy to set his sail by. It comes awfully close to the dreaded “vote of confidence” that precedes most firings, and in any case has to be reviewed after every year. If we have another bad year, I’d by as stunned as I’ve ever been in baseball if Tracy were back in 2013.
by BostonTransplant on Feb 20, 2012 7:50 PM MST reply actions
I agree with you
And frankly even if the Rockies do put a small extension on paper, it still doesn’t mean much. If and when O’Dowd and the Monforts decide Tracy’s time has come, being owed a year or two of salary isn’t going to save him.
by Northsider1964 on Feb 20, 2012 8:26 PM MST up reply actions
UGH
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
isn't that what's discussed above?
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get it, discussed, disgust
ba-dum—bum-
CHH!
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But, but...Tito...?
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The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
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We certainly
could use a dictator who is part of the non-aligned movement.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 20, 2012 8:45 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
oops...Tito's Villa
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 20, 2012 8:45 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
that sounds like a great place ;)
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well
no, maybe not…
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As someone who follows the Red Sox closely
Tito is not the answer here in Denver. His strenght in Boston was dealing with the media, forming relationships with his players, and taking the pressure off of them. He is not a tactician, and with the weak Denver media, his strength would be negated. Think of a slightly better version of Clint Hurdle, and that is Tito.
by blake street beer on Feb 20, 2012 8:51 PM MST up reply actions
you're forgetting
that literally anything would be better than
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?
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by Russ Oates on Feb 20, 2012 9:00 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
i would trust a volleyball to manage over tracy, i think
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I agree that Tito is much better than Tracy
but given Colorado’s situation, there are better managers for the money, or for a lot less
by blake street beer on Feb 20, 2012 9:13 PM MST up reply actions
Remind me why
anyone wants Fuentes coaching for us?
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