Wednesday Rockpile: Prospects Look Good For Rockies in 2012 and Beyond
by Jeff Aberle on Feb 22, 2012 8:15 AM MST
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Spring Training is underway, and I've got a glut of typical spring articles to prove it. Not that there's anything wrong with that, mind you, it's always great to get more Rockies news. Today, you'll get it in bullet form.
- In his first Spring Training mailbag, Troy Renck answers some fan questions. Or as I should say, is interrogated by fans and gives very diplomatic responses. Renck believes that the next wave of prospects are critical to Colorado's success and I agree. Perhaps the best attribute of Colorado's system right now in my opinion is that the majority of the Rockies' top prospects are quite near to contributing at the major league level, removing a decent amount of uncertainty.
- To illustrate the above point, all four of Colorado's members of the Baseball America Top 100 Prospects List (Drew Pomeranz at 30, Nolan Arenado at 42, Chad Bettis at 86, and Wilin Rosario at 87) might be contributors to the 2012 team and almost certainly will be on the 2013 squad.
- If Colorado's wealth of pitching talent (Pomeranz, Alex White, Tyler Chatwood, Bettis, etc.) turns out well, this team will be set in 2012 and beyond. Great performances at least two of Arenado, Rosario, Tim Wheeler, and Josh Rutledge at the major league level would solidify this lineup at least through CarGo's contract. I'm confident that several of these names will be strong contributors -- unfortunately, at this point it's hard to tell which ones.
- Jim Tracy's indefinite deal was endorsed by Rockies players like Troy Tulowitzki and others. As Andrew 2 pointed out yesterday, this deal doesn't really guarantee anything, but the fact that Colorado's management wants to commit long-term to Tracy at manager is worrisome to me given what I've seen on the field the last two years.
- From an outside point of view, Colorado's organization appears pretty insular, valuing "authentic relationships" and a "culture of value in a world of performance" above things like giving the team the best chance to win baseball games.
- Renck's profile on super utility prospect Jordan Pacheco shows how he's trying to make the team as a back-up catcher (possible, though if he does make the squad he will see time all over the infield).
- Perhaps you'd like to see Carlos Gonzalez, Troy Tulowitzki, and Todd Helton take batting practice? Renck's got you covered.
- Joey Nowak of the team site has several nuggets in this article, touching on Colorado's relative bullpen stability, Juan Nicasio's recovery, the clubhouse's reaction to the Jim Tracy deal, and the 50 game PED suspension of Rockies minor leaguer Joseph Torres.
- Nowak has a piece on Jeremy Guthrie and how he's adjusting to the National League--or more specifically, going from the AL East buzzsaw to the NL West.
- The Vegas O/U for Colorado in 2012 has been set at 80.5 wins, the 4th highest total in the division. After my experience the last two years with Colorado O/U bets, I'm staying away, but I will say that I think the number is very achievable for this group.
- Tell me true -- when you saw this article's headline you thought there was a guarantee of NL West glory, didn't you? Alas, I still don't trust the pitching nearly enough this year, though the lineup's depth should make for a vastly improved offense this season. In any case, that's a topic for another article.
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I really love Guthrie...from twitter
Day 3 Diary:Great, mom ordered the All-Star Photo pack again this year. 8×10, 4 5×7, 20 Wallets. #Embarrassing http://say.ly/Ewt1sMi
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Ill take the over
Hope springs eternal and all that, but I don’t see how we didn’t add 7.5 wins via subtraction of crappy parts at 2nd/3rd and upgrades to the lineup overall with Cuddyer and Hernandez. I know those last two are seen as marginal upgrades over Smith and Iannetta, but I see the lineup as being much more solid top to bottom. I also think we saw the real Fowler finally. All adds to a .500 season and I think with a bit of luck (gotta happen sometime), we will get over .500 towards 85 wins or so.
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The thing
I think about: our pitching was pretty terrible (not necessarily SABR-wise, just a injury-riddled, inconsistent hot mess) last year as well, so adding help at other holes should improve the team overall. If we get middling to good production from Guthrie and Chacin and a step up from Pomz and JDLR in a return to even late-season-Chacin-performance level, we should get enough out of Moscoso/White/Outman that we will at least see similar results from the pitching. Again, its spring time, hope is easy now. But 85 wins should be achievable. If the o/u was 85.5 I might not be so optimistic.
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I feel like last year, a lot of the team felt they could lean on Tulo, Ubaldo, and Cargo to just get us there. This team needs to bring it every day. Starts with Dex & Scoot getting on base, a lot and it ends with Helton staying healthy and Cuddyer bringing all hes got to the table. If that happens and pitching keeps us in games I think 85 wins should be no problem. They also have to start to take advantage of playing at home and winning at home.
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 22, 2012 9:37 AM MST up reply actions
Wall St Journal say Rox had 12th best offseason of any team
just a hair behind Arizona for tops in the division.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204909104577237303623692324.html?mod=wsj_share_tweet
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 22, 2012 9:30 AM MST via Android app reply actions
we made like 17 moves, of course should be in the upper half
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 22, 2012 9:42 AM MST up reply actions
I like that they used WAR
and the notes after the acquisitions/losses were entertaining too.
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Q & A With Arenado on MiLB.com
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oh FYI, its an article not one of those chat things where they act like its interactive, yet pick like 10 generic names who happen to have 10 “easily rehearsed type questions”
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 22, 2012 10:13 AM MST up reply actions
My goal is always just getting the runner in. I take pride in getting my RBIs and that’s what I really want. I’ve got make sure that I do whatever I can do to help the team win, a sac fly or whatever it is. I’ve got to get that run in. It doesn’t matter how, I just have to put the ball in play. I’m developing a lot more power, but my goal out there isn’t to hit more home runs. I would obviously like to hit more, but I’m not changing my swing. I’m hoping to keep things the same, and then everything will work out from there. I’m always trying to drive in more runs.
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the thing that excites me about Arenado is how much better he got as the year wore on
adjusting to his new shape and size seemed to have him a little lost according to at least one analyst I read, when that guy saw him again in late August he said he looked like a different player. If he goes to tulsa I really believe he will tear the cover off the ball thanks to the combination of being able to hit HR at home, and being more comfortable with his body. Maybe I am just building a narrative in my head, and seeing what I want to see but his splits show that with 9%+ walk rates and .500 SLG% every month after April
Split PA AB ISOP HR BB% K% BABIP GB% LD% AVG OBP SLG wOBA
April 91 89 .067 0 1.1% 12.1% .308 41% 12% .270 .286 .337 .276
May 116 99 .232 5 11.2% 6.9% .256 41% 12% .273 .345 .505 .353
June 104 95 .168 3 6.7% 10.6% .383 42% 19% .358 .394 .526 .396
July 127 108 .204 4 9.4% 11.0% .300 40% 15% .287 .339 .491 .347
August 123 106 .217 6 10.6% 4.9% .266 48% 14% .292 .358 .509 .356
September 22 20 .400 2 4.5% 13.6% .333 29% 18% .350 .364 .750 .445
AWAY 292 259 .228 14 8.6% 8.9% .283 47% 10% .293 .349 .521 .361
HOME 291 258 .151 6 7.6% 9.3% .320 38% 19% .302 .344 .453 .342
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(in a home park that dramatically suppresses RH HR power)
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I love that August line of
.292/.358/.509 with 6HR in 123 PA with a 10.6% walk rate to just a 4.9% K rate and a .266 BABIP
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
He's actually better on the road?
Am I reading that right?
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
by Roxman4ever on Feb 22, 2012 10:37 AM MST up reply actions
Many of the parks in the Cal League are far more offense friendly than Modesto
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Esp for RH hitters
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
thanks
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
by Roxman4ever on Feb 22, 2012 10:42 AM MST up reply actions
Much better he SLG% 70 points better on the road
I can’t wait to see him in Tulsa, you should see what Mathes and Zuanich were posting for road SLG numbers(although they are 4-5 years older than Arenado)
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
ummmm who's gonna notify Arenado
no one cares about counting stats like RBI’s?? I mean u think those runners get into scoring position by themselves?? more a function of batting order than how good one hits….
Grumble grumble/ pitching wins grumble/ RBI ppfffffft
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by El Paso Jeff on Feb 22, 2012 11:43 AM MST up reply actions
Well nobody cares about counting stats like RBIs
When it comes to evaluating performance. But the fact that he made contact when guys were on base is hugely encouraging, because stranding RISP seems to be a big problem with the Rockies (YES I’M GLARING AT YOU TY WIGGINTON EVEN THOUGH YOU DON’T PLAY FOR US ANYMORE).
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 22, 2012 12:49 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
This picture is going to ruin someone’s day.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
I has a sad :(
But they both look pretty happy in that picture
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Spilly’s probably happy just to be employed.
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by Franchise26 on Feb 22, 2012 10:00 AM MST up reply actions
why is the caption With Spildouche?
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by purplesocks on Feb 22, 2012 10:00 AM MST up reply actions
Ubaldo has become a badass
Have you seen the film Paul? Think Kristen Wiig’s character…
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if Ubaldo becomes a badass he will probably become areally good pitcher
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 22, 2012 10:12 AM MST up reply actions
My guess is that was Spilly’s nickname in the Rockies clubhouse – a term of endearment, mostly. That, or Ubaldo Jimenez is a terrible speller.
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by Franchise26 on Feb 22, 2012 10:01 AM MST up reply actions
Ubaldo wrote it, I am sure it is a loving nickname
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i love his picture of him and Corpas
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 22, 2012 10:12 AM MST up reply actions
I like Ubaldo on the beach!
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Feb 22, 2012 10:15 AM MST up reply actions
Half the picture makes me sad
The other half is like a scene from Major League III.
Or IV, or whatever number they’re up to now.
by Northsider1964 on Feb 22, 2012 10:33 AM MST up reply actions
Ruined A-Marts day
enough that he put it on the front page
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So Jim Tracy is the only manager in Rockies history with a winning record
he is 20 games over .500. As much as he drives me crazy you can’t pin the september collapses on him, if Tito isn’t getting the blame by most for Boston.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I don't see what one has to do with the other.
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what I am saying is that while I am not Tracy's biggest fan
the fact that some of the same people who would love to see Tito here, blame Tracy for our 10/11 collapses and that seems a little hard to understand.
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I would love love love Helton (or Giambi perhaps) to show a real ambition towards, and talent for, management
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When Todd Helton quits baseball – or when the game quits him, whichever comes first, and I sure hope it’s the former – he’s gonna go sit in a hunting blind for the rest of his life.
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by Franchise26 on Feb 22, 2012 10:27 AM MST up reply actions
Or a Cracker Barrel.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Feb 22, 2012 10:28 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
He could build the first Cracker Barrel with hunting blinds
instead of booths.
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Cracker Blind?
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Feb 22, 2012 10:33 AM MST up reply actions
Which I had last night and was good.
Picked up some Big League Chew bubble gum and Sixlets for good measure.
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
by Roxman4ever on Feb 22, 2012 10:35 AM MST up reply actions
I don’t blame either September collapse directly on Jim Tracy, actually. The Rockies were such an up-and-down team all of 2010, had gotten piss-hot, then gagged that game in LA on Sunday when they’d jumped all over Kershaw (the worst non-playoff loss in club history, if you ask me)… and then were out of steam. They had nothing left. Last year, without the heart of the order, Tracy was basically sending the Tulsa Drillers lineup out for games because he had to, and because it made sense for a non-contending club to do so.
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by Franchise26 on Feb 22, 2012 10:07 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I have a hard time calling 2012 a September collapse at all
It was just a fitting end to a miserable season.
And I agree about resting injured players, though the quality of play from some of the healthy bodies was a bit distressing at times. At any rate, September wasn’t what made it such a crappy season.
The 2011 team was better, but really not playoff-caliber. Historically huge seasons from Ubaldo, Carlos and Tulo and they still could never keep pace with the Padres – never mind the Giants.
by Northsider1964 on Feb 22, 2012 10:28 AM MST up reply actions
In 2011 they were a half game out of first on the day they faced Kershaw in LA. I really think if they hang on and win that game, they might have had a stronger finishing kick in them. Jimenez got bombed two days later in Arizona (on my birthday) and that really felt like the beginning of the end.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
by Franchise26 on Feb 22, 2012 10:32 AM MST up reply actions
Er, 2010. Damn, now I’m all backwards.
In a related story, the end of the 2010 season – those last two weeks – were arguably more painful than 2011.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
by Franchise26 on Feb 22, 2012 10:39 AM MST up reply actions
This was our last win of 2010.
http://colorado.rockies.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=12463463
I was at this game. I guess yall could blame me for the collapse?
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
by Roxman4ever on Feb 22, 2012 10:44 AM MST up reply actions
That was my first game at Coors!
Your 2012 Colorado Rockies:freshly exorcised from Ty Wigginton
That was a great back and forth affair.
My 8 year old got to play out on the field with Dinger, and my now 4 year old got a ball from a Giants pitcher.
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
Yeah, that's certainly possible
That game in LA was a killer, and the series in AZ was a disaster. But in my mind, that team spit the bit earlier in the season, when they couldn’t win a game not started (and dominated) by Ubaldo, and couldn’t get the offense going at all. With the seasons put up by the Big Three, that team had an opportunity to be a wire-to-wire frontrunner and just couldn’t get any production anywhere else.
by Northsider1964 on Feb 22, 2012 10:39 AM MST up reply actions
If Dex had had his 2011 finish and both Olivo and Iannetta hadn't completely
Fallen apart post July we probably would have been fine,
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Those were all big factors
But the starting pitching below Ubaldo was really pretty bad that year. In part because of JDLR’s injury, but also just bad performance. They ham-and-egged for a while, but burned up the bullpen in the process and that showed up late in the year in a big way.
And, Ubaldo came back to Earth. He stillpitched very well, but obviously not like he did in the first half.
by Northsider1964 on Feb 22, 2012 10:44 AM MST up reply actions
Fair but Clint Barmes had a 44 OPS+ post break after posting a 96 OPS+
in the first Half
Olivo
.325/.377/.548 .925 150 OPS+
.193/.225/.313 .539 48 OPS+.
yeah our starters were banged up a bit but mostly we trusted Cook and Francis too much.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I remember having the black hole part of the lineup that August where 1/3 of the lineup was basically and automatic out
Olivo/Barmes/and the pitcher back to back to back was pretty infuriating.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 22, 2012 11:03 AM MST up reply actions
And Iannetta's August line of .163/.288/.186 wasn't helping
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
They had a brutal post All-Star stretch where it looked like they were pretty much toast. Donnie Freaking Murphy’s walk-off in Florida, Pedro Alvarez’s walk-off in Pittsburgh. But then they got stupid hot starting in late August and carrying through early September – that ludicrous come-back win over the Braves was a big part, and of course Tulo hitting a home run every time up didn’t hurt.
2010 was a pretty memorable season, actually. I don’t remember anything that happened even just last season with the clarity with which I remember 2010. 2010 was fun, mostly.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
by Franchise26 on Feb 22, 2012 10:42 AM MST up reply actions
2010 had some major highs and lows, no doubt
I just remember a lot of games slipping away early in the season and thinking, “Man, this is going to cost us if the Dodgers or Giants ever catch fire.” I was never sold on the Friars, though they had a good year.
by Northsider1964 on Feb 22, 2012 10:47 AM MST up reply actions
I think the highlight for me that year
Was the game against the Braves where we came back from 10-1 to win 12-10.
Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
Sorry
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=7514219
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
by Roxman4ever on Feb 22, 2012 11:00 AM MST up reply actions
I know it sucks.
But, it is something we will always have.
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
by Roxman4ever on Feb 22, 2012 11:18 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Mine too.
I was at that game and stayed until the end.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Feb 22, 2012 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
I don't even have to watch the highlight to know what game you're referring to
And I was there till the spillyslam as well.
by Purple Row Troll on Feb 22, 2012 5:09 PM MST up reply actions
I was listening to it on the radio.
I was camping with my family. I just happened to check in near the end of the game. Wife was upset, I told her I didn’t care. This was too good to miss.
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
by Roxman4ever on Feb 22, 2012 11:01 AM MST up reply actions
I loved that game as well
But I have a hatred for the Braves like a Cadillac. Any time we can crush their hearts is special to me.
Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
What's your deal with Cadillac?
Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...
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My hatred is like a cadillac
Meaning its large and will run something over without much damage to it.
Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
Oh I see...I don't think mine fits in that category
My CTS is all HP and plastic…
HUGE BALLS though.
Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...
Metrosexual: It's like being gay, but not being into guys.
Here you go
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=9738221&c_id=mlb
Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
Does it seems that thisg ame was kind of the beginning of the end for Franklin?
After this he really struggled and I don’t even know if he is in baseball anymore.
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
by Roxman4ever on Feb 22, 2012 11:11 AM MST up reply actions
I kind of had that exact same thought
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
He's still with the Red Sox.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Feb 22, 2012 12:12 PM MST up reply actions
Morales, that is.
I guess you meant the Cardinals’ Franklin though,
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Feb 22, 2012 12:15 PM MST up reply actions
Here’s my 25 favorites from 2010
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 22, 2012 11:06 AM MST up reply actions
I couldn't come up with 25 favorites from 2011.
2011 — The season of sad.
Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
I don't think I could find five games from 2011 that would crack that 2010 list
It was that bad.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 22, 2012 11:10 AM MST up reply actions
Rosario’s 1st MLB homerun.
I liked Charlie Blackmon as well.
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I forgot about the #Blackmon4Leadoff movement that got started.
Pomeranz throwing five shutout innings in his debut was a lot of fun too.
I liked the game where Iannetta and Tracy were thrown out.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Feb 22, 2012 11:20 AM MST up reply actions
Also when Giambi hit three homers in a row.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
by DAWNMARIE01 on Feb 22, 2012 11:21 AM MST up reply actions
loved this one since i was there and the crowd was just electric
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by purplesocks on Feb 22, 2012 11:26 AM MST up reply actions
This one?
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=16966349
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by Roxman4ever on Feb 22, 2012 12:50 PM MST up reply actions
I like Blackmon going forward
but his production kind of sucked last season – And then just when it looked like he was about to find it, he was injured too.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 22, 2012 11:22 AM MST up reply actions
kinda sucked is an understatement
the only positive thing i remember about blackmon was when he stole all those bases in a row
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by purplesocks on Feb 22, 2012 11:25 AM MST up reply actions
Chacin.Complete game shutout of the Cubs
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by Roxman4ever on Feb 22, 2012 12:53 PM MST up reply actions
Highlighted by
Iannetta’s triple/Little League Grand Slam.
by Northsider1964 on Feb 22, 2012 12:55 PM MST up reply actions
I went to the next night's game and
Felipe Paulino gave it all away. I was so pissed. My wife was happy though. GRRRR
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by Roxman4ever on Feb 22, 2012 12:58 PM MST up reply actions
Even the Nicasio story is marred though because the image you walked away with from last season was him nearly dying.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 22, 2012 11:20 AM MST up reply actions
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=11383599&c_id=mlb
Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
2010 was a great season
Esp. considering we didn’t make the playoffs. You had the Giambi walk-off against the Sawx, the CarGo walk-off cycle, everything to do with Ubaldo, Tulo’s September… the only really heartbreaking thing that happened in 2010 was the 2-week collapse at the end of the season.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 22, 2012 12:53 PM MST up reply actions
As everyone knows.
I do have that Cargo walk off for those who want to see it. LOL
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by Roxman4ever on Feb 22, 2012 12:56 PM MST up reply actions
You're like the RIRF
Of the MLB video site.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 22, 2012 12:59 PM MST up reply actions
Yea. Discovering the bookmark icon on my computer has been a savior.
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love it
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by papality on Feb 22, 2012 1:13 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Me too!
I can’t navigate that site to save my damn life.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 22, 2012 1:23 PM MST up reply actions
that one may be tough. I'll look. LOL
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Close.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzhMXKduOx0
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ha, I have it too, from the LF club level
I actually recorded the TV audio and dubbed it into my video… unfortunately I can’t post it anywhere for fear of the MLB copyright police… yes I’m a geek.
the only really heartbreaking thing that happened in 2010 was the 2-week collapse at the end of the season.
Gonna have to disagree with that
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 22, 2012 1:08 PM MST up reply actions
Well
Those were more frustrating than heartbreaking. There were no “Juan Nicasio breaks his neck” or “Ubaldo Jimenez gets traded during one of his starts” moments in 2010… at least for me.
Impressive reference though, RIRF :-)
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 22, 2012 1:11 PM MST up reply actions
And this doesn't even include the Twins breaking poor Tulo's wrist
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 22, 2012 1:12 PM MST up reply actions
those Frockers, i was at that game, bout ran on the field and punched the dude in the face
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 22, 2012 1:47 PM MST up reply actions
Uh...
2012’s September was a fitting end to a miserable season?
Plese tell me you don’t know something I don’t regarding this.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 22, 2012 10:34 AM MST up reply actions
Sorry - I meant 2011 and 2010. My bad.
by Northsider1964 on Feb 22, 2012 10:36 AM MST up reply actions
You weren't supposed to talk about your
trip in the TARDIS….man. Spoilers!
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I figured as much but I just wanted to make sure you weren't one of those people who could see the future
Usually when I make that mistake (and it seems to happen quite often) I call this year last year (refer to 2012 as 2011)
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 22, 2012 10:39 AM MST up reply actions
Because I must like torture
I’ve watched that LA game several times; and on each occasion I’m able to put myself right back in the middle of that pennant race. Every time the game gets to about the third or forth inning I say to myself, there’s no way they can possibly lose this freaking game again.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 22, 2012 10:44 AM MST up reply actions
They were all over Kershaw for two innings and then didn’t piss a drop the rest of the game. And then Hammel let the Dodgers back in it in the fourth after two outs had been recorded. I really wish I didn’t remember this.
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by Franchise26 on Feb 22, 2012 10:46 AM MST up reply actions
And it was against the LA bullpen which Torre had abused all season and was getting lit up like a Christmas tree for the past month
And that 4th inning where Hammel let them back in the game there was a dropped strike three that sould have ended the inning before any runs scored. And Tulo had his worst game of the season both in the field and at the plate after hitting 14 HR’s in 15 games. And the ump blew that call in the 11th. And we had three walks and a hit in the top of that inning and couldn’t score a run. AND, AND……AND…………NOW I’M PISSED OFF ALL OVER AGAIN!!!!!!!
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 22, 2012 11:01 AM MST up reply actions 4 recs
INSTANT REC'D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Roxman4ever on Feb 22, 2012 11:02 AM MST up reply actions
This Rockpile makes me want Opening Day to come ASAP
so I can stop being depressed about last year, and about the failed chances of the year before.
"Are they called the Rockies because they rock?" - 7 y.o.
That game
It’ll be a long, long time before I forget that game. Agreed that it’s probably the worst regular season loss in club history (#2: the game about 3 weeks earlier against the Phillies that they lost 12-11 or something). The day before, the Saturday game where they obliterated the Dodgers and Tulo had 2 HR, is the high water mark for the franchise for the past 27 months.
Wait, what's his real name? We should make a joke out of that.
by BrandonHawpe on Feb 22, 2012 12:27 PM MST up reply actions
That Saturday game was amazing.
I can still hear the amused astonishment in Vin Scully’s voice after Tulo’s second dinger.
that last game before the ASG against the padres was a pretty devastating loss for me
we were in good position for the sweep and would have tied up the division with a win but Matt Belisle couldn’t throw the easy throw home and missed the catcher.
we go on to lose the game, go into the break on a down note and then completely screw ourselves in the road trip following the break
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by purplesocks on Feb 22, 2012 12:41 PM MST up reply actions
Oh
I remember being so pissed listening to that stupid game on the radio. Dammit Matt Belisle.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 22, 2012 1:00 PM MST up reply actions
yup
that’s when the season was over, in my mind
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by papality on Feb 22, 2012 1:14 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
that loss sucked the momentum out of the season
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by papality on Feb 22, 2012 1:16 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
But then we got it back and pulled to within a game of the division lead before melting down against the Dodgers in game 149
It was a bad loss, but it certainly didn’t send us to a point of no return.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 22, 2012 1:23 PM MST up reply actions
OTish: My wife is currently finishing up sewing a new Rockies blanket for me.
Its made out of fleece so it will be nice and warm.
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I bet you can’t wait to break that blanket in
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 22, 2012 11:49 AM MST up reply actions
Ewww
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You don’t like cold opening day games?
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 22, 2012 12:06 PM MST up reply actions
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Not like that but it will be nice.
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by Roxman4ever on Feb 22, 2012 12:54 PM MST up reply actions
Opening Day
Is it opening day yet? How about now? Now? Maybe now? … Now? How about now?
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by sasperilla_pete on Feb 22, 2012 11:25 AM MST reply actions
Lets just skip March and head into April
Colorado Offense: Making bad pitchers look like CY Young Winners.
by Colsportsfan on Feb 22, 2012 11:51 AM MST up reply actions
Just take enough HyberNol to get you to April.
Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
No thank you.
March is perhaps my favorite month, despite the whole basketball thing.
Don't make me turn this season around
because so help me…
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by sasperilla_pete on Feb 22, 2012 12:08 PM MST up reply actions
Go Team.
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by hotdoglady on Feb 22, 2012 12:13 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
Via Buster
MLB is becoming like Lombardi Time: If you’re not in camp a few days early and you’re name is not Thome, Rivera, Helton, then you’re late.
What the hell is that suppose to mean?
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Well, Lombardi
wanted guys to show up 10 to 15 minutes early or else he considered them late.
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i really need to find some sort of sarcasm font…
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 22, 2012 12:51 PM MST up reply actions
Is that sarcasm?
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sarcasm font?
like that would be useful
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 22, 2012 12:59 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Oh wow, reeeeeeally gooooood
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by sasperilla_pete on Feb 22, 2012 1:00 PM MST up reply actions
A White Sox board I used to frequent used teal.
I don’t think that’s an option here though.
I think he is saying those guys have nothing left to prove he should have added Chipper
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its just sad that helton is grouped with those other old balls
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 22, 2012 1:16 PM MST up reply actions
FWIW
Getting grouped with 1st ballot HOFers is probably a good thing.
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by sasperilla_pete on Feb 22, 2012 1:18 PM MST up reply actions
i guess if other HOFers were getting groped, i would like to be with them…
Too Bad Helton won’t be with those guys in Cooperstown because I feel he deserves to be the First Rockie
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 22, 2012 1:22 PM MST up reply actions
I think he gets in, he would have been first ballot if not for that 05 back injury sapping his power
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is that in the sarcasm font?
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 22, 2012 1:31 PM MST up reply actions
you disagree? with him making the HOF or him making it 1st Ballot if he wasn't hurt?
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I disagree on both on what is going to happen, not on the premise of what I wish/want to happen
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 22, 2012 1:46 PM MST up reply actions
Well Bill James has Helton at a 164 HOF monitor score
Bagwell is getting a lot of love with a 150 score. I think Helton’s continued excellence late in his career(he had essentially the same wRC+ as Howard and big Tex last year) and his face of the franchise story will help
Helton through age 31 was unquestionably a 1st ballot guy his .339/.432/.616 for a 150 OPS+ line through that age was amazing add in 1372 hits, 373 2Bs, 251 HR his normal aging curve with nothing but nagging injuries he would have bumped up against 500 HR 3000 hits 700 2Bs and would have been given more and more credit as Coors Canaveral became a thing of the past.
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by TomCat009 on Feb 22, 2012 2:00 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree he has had a great career, but the media hates coors field and hitting in Denver, its as simple as that for me
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 22, 2012 2:38 PM MST up reply actions
Screw the media and what they think of Coors Field!
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by Roxman4ever on Feb 22, 2012 3:50 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Sadly the media are the ones that vote.
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Yea I know. Its just my opinion
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i wouldn't quite lump them all together like that
there’s a fair chunk of the more educated who get that it isn’t LOLCOORZ anymore, and by the time helton is on the ballot, which will likely be 2018, more and more of them will be the voting members of the BBWAA
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to make that more clear, Yes I disagree on both of those, but I wish it were different
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 22, 2012 1:50 PM MST up reply actions
Getting groped
Maybe they need to be in the sexual harassment HOF.
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by sasperilla_pete on Feb 22, 2012 1:25 PM MST up reply actions
just saw Alanna on MLBN
looking good as ever
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by papality on Feb 22, 2012 1:02 PM MST via Android app reply actions
UGH! I missed her?!?!?!?!?!?!
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Nobody beats the 'Riz
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by sasperilla_pete on Feb 22, 2012 1:03 PM MST up reply actions
Rockies I hope...
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she did one of the little during-commercial news blurbs
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by papality on Feb 22, 2012 1:04 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Hopefully MLBN
Won’t make her pick some guy out of the crowd and have him predict what flavor of snow cone the kid behind him is going to order. Those biting insights are the exclusive property of ROOT Sports.
And BTW, that’s not directed at Alanna. She seemed about as excited about those “features” as the rest of us were. She’ll be great on MLBN.
by Northsider1964 on Feb 22, 2012 1:07 PM MST up reply actions
ahhhhhhhhhhh dreamy
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 22, 2012 1:18 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
This and rec'd
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Who is overpaid, worth it, or a bum?
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Feb 22, 2012 1:04 PM MST reply actions
ARod and Wells for sure. Santana is 3rd.
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Oh boy
Colorado Rockies were one of the least efficient teams: $1.7M per win… sadness.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 22, 2012 1:09 PM MST up reply actions
Ouch
Rox are #11 least efficient team for 2011 according to that list using a straight up cost per win metric. TB Rays and Arizona Delta Bravos are the teams with the best cost per win (I’m not including the Royals, who finished 4th in their division.)
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by sasperilla_pete on Feb 22, 2012 1:10 PM MST up reply actions
NL West Dominating the best value
#BestDivisioninMLB
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 22, 2012 1:21 PM MST up reply actions
Unbelievable that TB and NYY
have a $1.5MM cost per win discrepancy in the same division with just six wins seperating the two.
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by sasperilla_pete on Feb 22, 2012 1:23 PM MST up reply actions
There was a lot of Green going around the Rockpile yesterday
I think we have come down from the mountain a little bit today
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get it, rockies, mountain
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by papality on Feb 22, 2012 1:26 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Talk about a culture of value
finding unintended puns is definitely valuable.
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by sasperilla_pete on Feb 22, 2012 1:29 PM MST up reply actions
he he he, not to mention the hidden puns of Green, and coming down from the mountain, meaning we aren’t as high today he he he he silly me
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 22, 2012 1:33 PM MST up reply actions
Are you actually Tim Lincecum?
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 22, 2012 1:34 PM MST up reply actions
maybe that's why his back hurts
came down the mountain too fast…
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by papality on Feb 22, 2012 1:36 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
haha reminds me of
They should call them floories I always wondered why they were called roofies. Cause you’re more likely to end up on the floor than the roof.
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by waterboy31321 on Feb 22, 2012 1:45 PM MST up reply actions
We flecced so much yesterday
we got to rest up a bit.
by 3nS on Feb 22, 2012 2:06 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Cheap flec
whoring is cheap and effective. You are flec’d
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idea
say fowler tanks this year, or gets a career-threatening injury to his knees or something. do we make a run at bourn or upton in the offseason?
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by papality on Feb 22, 2012 3:38 PM MST via Android app reply actions
Why? Why would even utter this?????
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i was watching CHC and brian kenny (<3) was talking about bourn and upton
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If something happens to Fowler
let it be on your head :P
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if we get bourn or upton out of it,
preferably upton, i will have no issue with that
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Which Upton?
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bj
the one that’s a free agent after this year
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Will BJ Upton
be in the Rox self-imposed price range? Could be Tim Wheeler will have a good enough year in AAA this year that the org feels they can go home grown in the OF.
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by sasperilla_pete on Feb 22, 2012 4:06 PM MST up reply actions
yay, someone's playing :)
well, bj comes with enough concerns that i think he’ll get a deal in the bay range, which we could do if we decide not to make a run at one of the pitchers (which we almost definitely won’t). while bourn is the better base-stealer, and puts up a little better OBP, upton’s got more power. and his primary offensive concern, too many strikeouts, is an area that coors field would help with, which would help boost his average too.
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Yeah, I agree
I think Bourn would provide a solid leadoff hitter, but Upton’s power makes him a compelling case. Bourn also had only 12 fewer SOs than Upton, but Bourn’s 61 stolen bases were tops in the league. From an OBP perspective, Fowler tops them both, but I think having Upton as another 30-30 guy to go along with CarGo would be amazing.
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by sasperilla_pete on Feb 22, 2012 4:15 PM MST up reply actions
also it's not believed that wheeler can stick in CF
though i’d certainly love it if he could, because if he can then he’s basically a left-handed bj upton
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Wheeler has huge upside
Could be a 25-25 guy in the majors, and yes, would be superior to Fowler and comparable to Upton if he can live up to his expectations in the majors. And yes, it all depends on whether he can man CF. Could be interesting as far as OF spots if he excels in AAA and has a good spring in 2013. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Fowler on the trade block soon if Wheeler is developing like they hope he does.
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by sasperilla_pete on Feb 22, 2012 4:19 PM MST up reply actions
Meh. I'd rather have Dexter
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4 of the past 5 years upton has put up 4 WAR or better
fowler’s high is 3, and while he could (and i really want him to) improve, the established guy is probably the better bet
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I just have it in for the Uptons......
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It's all moot
if Fowler can pick up in 2012 where he left off in the 2nd half of 2011 when he posted a .288/.380/.498 line.
By comparison, Upton had a .243/.331/.429 line in 2011, but he stole 36 bases compared to Dexter who only stole 12.
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by sasperilla_pete on Feb 22, 2012 4:22 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah that's the one area
that I wish Dex would get better at. But if he stretches a single into a double or triple then he doesn’t really need to steal.
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That's a fair point
Let’s look at the #s
2011 Fowler had 35 2Bs, 15 3Bs, 12/21 SBs, and .363 OBP in 563 PAs with 208 TBs
2011 Upton had 24 2Bs, 4 3Bs, 36/48 SBs, and .331 OBP in 640 PAs with 240 TBs
2011 Bourn had 34 2Bs, 10 3Bs, 61/75 SBs, and .349 OBP in 722 PAs with 253 TBs
Putting aside power, where Upton is clearly the superior player, I’d still say that both Bourn and Upton are above Fowler, but Fowler also is predicted to have a breakout season. What exactly that entails is anybody’s guess.
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by sasperilla_pete on Feb 22, 2012 4:33 PM MST up reply actions
they're all comparable baserunners (aside from stealing) and defenders as well
i wouldn’t be surprised if their 2012s were nigh identical
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That would require Dex
to have his best season. I hope that’s true.
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by sasperilla_pete on Feb 22, 2012 6:52 PM MST up reply actions
how many PA for each?
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
It's in there
Fowler: 563
Upton: 640
Bourn: 722
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by sasperilla_pete on Feb 22, 2012 7:48 PM MST up reply actions
sorry the format made me miss it
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Not familiar with the proper format
Just put up stats I thought would be relevant for a leadoff hitter.
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by sasperilla_pete on Feb 23, 2012 7:41 AM MST up reply actions
upton got caught stealing as many times as fowler was successful last year
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SB%
Fowler: .571
Upton: .750
Bourn: .813
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by sasperilla_pete on Feb 22, 2012 4:34 PM MST up reply actions
she would sent the HAR through the roof
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Now that Alanna is gone? :((
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If she can hit, I'm all for it.
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She wins
in the banging ass dept. too.
Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...
Metrosexual: It's like being gay, but not being into guys.
That's the best dept.
For some guys she has a RAR of 8
Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
Bourjos ...
Might be expendable in LAA, and might be a better fit than either guy you floated. But I have faith in Fowler.
bourjos won't be expendable
torii hunter is gone after this season, and a wells/trout/bourjos OF is very, very good
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yeah, i know
but he’s actually a good fielder in left, and was criminally unlucky last year (.214 BABIP) we all forget, he was nearly a 4 WAR player as recently as 2010
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No, I agree (although he's definitely in the midst of a steep decline)
“hehe” is just my automatic reaction to Wells and his contract
cmon, somebody play with me....
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I want to play
I really do. However moronic clients and a presentation tomorrow have kept me off PR most of the day :-/
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 22, 2012 4:32 PM MST up reply actions
That's so Dexter of you
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Well played.
Cooler than a polar bear's toenails...
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probably going to get shunned for this
http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/369sxn/
Staring out the window, waiting for spring.
I hope White+ Pomeranz = Jiminez+Cook
Not that I expect either White or Pomeranz to be as good as Jiminez but that they both are better than Cook to equalize things.
guess who's who:
Player 1: 135 G .266/.363/.406 12.9 BB% 22.4 K% .351 BABIP .345 wOBA 98 wRC+ -16.2 UZR 0.7 WAR
Player 2: 125 G .266/.363/.432 12.1 BB% 23.1 K% .354 BABIP .346 wOBA 108 wRC+ -5.8 UZR 2.9 WAR
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time's up!
it was a trick question, both are dexter fowler, player 1 is the 2009 version, player 2 is 2011
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i know right
looking at his page, i was like, “what the hell?”
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Makes me feel a lot less
Comfortable with the idea of a “breakout season” from him… Looking at those numbers, his first half was BAD.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 22, 2012 4:49 PM MST up reply actions
meh
he was pretty clearly a superior player in the second half
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different player, too
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Yeah
I still have faith… but 2011 has conditioned me to expect nothing ever to go well ever.
by The Toddfather's Goatee on Feb 22, 2012 4:56 PM MST up reply actions
I might have gotten that if I'd have checked in
I wrote his player review and studied his stats closely
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 22, 2012 6:09 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
This is a pretty great example of how rapidly offense has dropped off in MLB
Fowler’s wOBA in 2011 was basically the same as it was in 2009 but his wRC+ jumped from 98 to 108.
Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 22, 2012 10:56 PM MST up reply actions
JFK's Quote of the Day:
“They give you a round bat and they throw you a round ball and they tell you to hit it square.” ~Willie Stargell New York Times (April 2, 1978)
"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." ~Tallulah Bankhead
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~Greg, age 8
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JFK
Love this...here is the link.
As pitchers and catchers got set to warm up before their first official workout at Salt River Fields at Talking Stick on Monday, Rockies strength coach Brian Jordan lined the players along the edge of the facility’s agility field.
Jordan directed players to take off for warmup sprints in order of Major League service. He first called for anyone with 20 or more years.
Off went Jamie Moyer, all by himself.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120222&content_id=26805662&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb
Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
"19 years?" "18 years?" "17 years?"
Eventually Jamie is on to the next drill before anybody else gets started…
We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!
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by Junction Rox on Feb 22, 2012 7:14 PM MST up reply actions
I do find it funny though.
Work the old guy harder than the young pups. Shouldn’t it be the other way around?
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not at all
leadership starts at the top; if moyer were sitting around all day doing nothing while the kids were busting their asses, first off they’d lose respect for him and not take him seriously, and second they’d lose respect for the trainer because he’s perceived as cronyistic and unfair.
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Plus bookending it with "who has a World Series ring" sends a message to the kids: this is what a winner looks like.
"Are they called the Rockies because they rock?" - 7 y.o.
Thanks for the link
I really like Moyer
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JFK
In my honest opinion, I would like to see him make the OD rotation.
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you are not alone
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"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~Greg, age 8
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JFK
I don't care if the man throws 80 mph "heat" as long as he piches good and gets outs
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Well if "Doc"
was based on Jamie Moyer, yes
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JFK
2 star pitchers, 2 nice new contracts, 2 people with back problems. This could be good for us.
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Dodgers have Shane Lindsay?
I wish him good luck
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JFK
yeah it's really a crying shame
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says rubby's replacement ligament came from his right forearm
wouldn’t it be bad to take a ligament from the same arm as the torn UCL? i thought the procedure was traditionally done with one from the opposite arm
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Guys, do we like Jon Heyman?
This article is VERY interesting. No idea if it’s true but you’ve got to wonder…
http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/2012/02/heyman-by-the-numbers-38590
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heyman
not only a well-known anti-stat guy, but now a fair bit of obvious connection with boras? (not that the two are related) definitely fishy
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