Friday Rockpile: Backing Up Hernandez
by Andrew Martin on Feb 3, 2012 7:30 AM MST
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Since the Rockies' inception, there have been many a persona of the man backstopping the team. There's been the consummate veteran (Joe Girardi), the "No, seriously, I've still got it!" (Jeff Reed), the Awesome Name (Jayhawk Owens), the "We're paying him, we might as well play him" (Charlie Johnson), and the ever Controversial Chris Iannetta. Only a few of them ever gave us strong seasons (Jeff Reed for example, maybe even a little Miguel Olivo and Charlie Johnson). They were generally sound fielders (you know, like Danny Ardoin). The backups were often hard to distinguish from the starters, especially with the concept that Coors Field catchers are like 100-115 game players, tops.
While he'll likely cap out at around 90 games, Ramon Hernandez is kind of the "duh" candidate for starting C in 2012. While Hernandez caught 133 games as recently as 2008, he peaked at 97 in 2010, and I can't see him at more than 90 in 2012. So this brings up the next best question: who, exactly, will be backing up Mr. Hernandez in the upcoming season?
Now, the obvious choice is Wilin Rosario, hot prospect and starter down the stretch in 2011. Rosario thus far has been equipped with a cannon on his shoulder, simply prodigious power in his bat, and the ability to block a ball in the dirt of Dan Cloutier. Rosario put up a frankly poor season in AA Tulsa, .249/.285/.457 with 21 HR. The homers were pretty impressive, but that slash line really leaves a lot to be desired. Furthermore, and this part is kind of interesting to me, but Rosario's work ethic has been questioned, which may or may not put his future in jeopardy.
Jordan Pacheco is also an option. He caught his whole way through the minors since just after Rookie Casper. As it stands, he's slated as a competitor in the Corner-Utility discussion along with Brandon Wood and Brendan Harris. His ability to play the Catcher position is going to add that extra versatility (so we can use one of the Catchers as a PH). Really though, I see him as a utility guy at this point, and I don't think the organization is going to push too hard to strictly move him back to Catcher.
The other guys in the conversation at all include Lars Davis, Wil Nieves, and Wilkin Castillo. They're non-roster invitees to Major League camp, and much of the reason for that is the sheer number of extra pitchers coming to camp and the need to have somebody catch the balls they are throwing. It is conceivable that any of these catchers COULD take time away from Rosario as the backup/1B, it'd likely be in the event of injury or demotion.
The way I see it, this offseason's theme has been "Don't disappoint us as a starter or high-leverage relief pitcher or we'll trade you for some form of cost controlled pitching". Rosario has recently been disappointing, and it's questionable to see how well he responds as a backup. That might be dependent on how well Hernandez holds up in the early going. (For all of you hockey fans out there, I can't help but see this as somewhat of a Jiggy/Varly situation - not verbatim, obviously, but there are parallels). Ideally, Rosario is stealing the starting role from Hernandez in mid-August and never looking back. But only time will tell as far as that goes.
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Rosario will be getting more starts than Hernandez by August
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Pudge
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Good joke
since Pudge hasn’t been good since 2004. Since we do need someone that plays about 50% of the time, we need Rosario or other near avg player at the position and Pudge definitely isn’t that.
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by Cargo'es Yard on Feb 3, 2012 8:00 AM MST up reply actions
You're one who obviously knows nothing...
about the Defensive Game. And probably only cares about the Offensive Game. Good one, Numpty.
Obviously, you've never followed any of my posts
to make that comment but i’ll take it as more of a bait.
We do have more firepower on offense to worry about the backup catcher position so I don’t really care about the offense. When Pudge signed his last contract, he stated he wanted to be a starter but looking over news reports, it looks like he’ll be happy as a backup. He’s even saying the right things about mentoring the pitchers and the such.
He’s still 40 and coming off a serious injury so we would need him to play more regularly than any other backup catcher. I don’t think he has it in him and that’s my true reason for disliking the signing.
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by Cargo'es Yard on Feb 3, 2012 8:38 AM MST up reply actions
You sign him cheap (assuming he's willing to come here ... a rather big if)
If he doesn’t have it in him, very little lost and you bring Rosario up. It would be worth it just for the comedy value of Willin hitting balls in the Springs that would clear the fences twice …
For the mentoring value with the pitchers, hell ya. This would be a no-brainer. Somehow, though, I don’t think he’s been pining away for his Rocky Mountain high all these years. Just a guess.
by BostonTransplant on Feb 3, 2012 8:41 AM MST up reply actions
for BP Catcher?
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I don't do hockey, so don't get the Cloutier reference,
but if he is a good shot-blocking goalie, then I question the accuracy of the reference.
Rosario’s reputation as a pitch-blocker on balls in the dirt was not good in the minors, and his Sept. play with the Rockies indicated that is a real problem. I remember several discussions in GDT’s about pitches he should have stopped, but didn’t.
Rosario remains, IMO, an intriguing prospect with obviously great power potential offensively, plus a strong throwing arm as a catcher. But his receiving ability (including blocking errant pitching) and game-calling skills are questionable … to the point that projecting him for 40% of the starts at C is dubious. I don’t know if he’s ready defensively.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Feb 3, 2012 7:52 AM MST via mobile reply actions
2nd Catcher
I’m thinking the 2012 back-up catcher isn’t in the fold yet. I can easily see the Rox adding Pudge Rodriguez as an additional mentor/2nd catcher on a very reasonable one year deal. That would give Rosario ample time to prove himself in AA/AAA, which he clearly needs to do.
Already a resident Old Guy in place.
Hernandez.
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I was looking at some numbers and I think that Ryan Theriot could quietly be one of the keys to this divsion
Remember when I wrote that piece about all the plate appearences the Rockies had taken by guys with an OPS+ below 70 compared to the rest of the NL? Well it turns out that the Giants have some interesting numbers there themselves. While their overall number was not nearly as bad as the Rockies 1506 PA’s with an OPS+ of less than 70, they still came in at a sizeable 962. What’s troubling to me though is that of those 962 PA’s with an OPS+ below 70, 518 of them (or 54%) came from the SS position. In fact, all the shortstops for the Giants combined last season averaged a .564 OPS – Which comes out to around an OPS+ of 60 even after getting a boost for playing half their games at AT&T park.
While Theriot certainly isn’t a great player, he unfortunately may have the ability to give them a signifcant upgrade if he gets 500+ PA’s while playing SS because he has a career OPS+ of 83. (Say what you want about Juan Uribe but he really helped ensure that SS would not be an offensive black hole for the Giants in 2010 as he played 103 games there and had an OPS+ of 102 for that season. The Giants were correct in choosing not to resign him but the loss of his bat from that position really helped sink their ship last season.)
In any case, Theriot has some potentially even more interesting numbers when you break them down season by season. So below I have listed Theriot’s OPS+ numbers for each of the last five seasons (2010 is listed twice because he was traded from the Cubs to the Dodgers midseason) and the OPS+ of the team he was on.
2007: Theriot’s OPS+ = 71 / Team OPS+ = 90
2008: Theriot’s OPS+ = 92 / Team OPS+ = 102
2009: Theriot’s OPS+ = 83 / Team OPS+ = 89
2010: Theriot’s OPS+ = 73 / Team OPS+ = 90
2010: Theriot’s OPS+ = 69 / Team OPS+ = 92
2011: Theriot’s OPS+ = 86 / Team OPS+ = 113
As you can see, in the last five years, Theriot has played on two solid offensive teams and the rest – well, not so solid offensive teams. I can see Theriot as a player who would benefit quite a bit from having strong offensive players bat around him and these numbers reflect that.
Thriot’s OPS+ while on the 08 Cubs and 11 Cards = 90
Thriot’s OPS+ while on all the other teams =75
That’s a significant difference and as a Rockie fan I hope it continues to play out with the Giants next season. If the surrounding batters really are a big impact with him, I could see the rest of the Giants lineup being weak enough to keep Theriot’s OPS+ only slightly above 70 and limiting the amount of improvement he will provide over last year’s disaster at the plate from that position. However, if he can post something closer to last year’s OPS+ of 86 he managed for the Cardinals, he’s going to help the Giants offense much more than most people realize. It’s an unknown that won’t get too much press, but it sure could have an impact on the division race.
(And no, I can’t believe I just wrote a post that long about Ryan Theriot either)
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Feb 3, 2012 8:33 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
I love that I knew who authored this post
before I even scrolled past the title
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 3, 2012 9:18 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
I thought the Rox should have taken a closer look at Theriot
but maybe he is not the right mix for the reformatted Rox.
by Real Perspective on Feb 3, 2012 12:37 PM MST up reply actions
Scutaro>Theriot
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 3, 2012 12:44 PM MST up reply actions
The Riot > Scutaro.
If he decided to either change his name or just go by The Riot I’d have to give the nod to him, for indisputable non-baseball reasons.
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by Resolution on Feb 3, 2012 12:51 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
They have Fonte Not as well
aka “Not a Holster”
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 3, 2012 12:55 PM MST up reply actions
That big smiling face
next to the title helps a lot
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That would be a big giveaway if I weren't reading from the Android app
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 3, 2012 5:02 PM MST up reply actions
Great analysis RIRF.
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by CentralCaliRox on Feb 3, 2012 6:35 PM MST up reply actions
Errata ... Wilin's OBP
Was .284 not .385 – substantial difference …. would that he posted an OBP in the high .300’s.
yeah his 2010 line would look a lot better
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I assume you mean in the accusative neuter?
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Why would you not use the first declension ending here?
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balls, and here I thought I read it through thoroughly
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by Andrew Martin on Feb 3, 2012 1:29 PM MST up reply actions
hypothetical trade: who says no?
harper for trout? both prospects actually fill the team needs better for the other team
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 3, 2012 10:04 AM MST reply actions
like pineda-lawrie
everyone says no
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I think the Angels consider it
They have Bourjos in CF that’s a pretty good player, and neither he nor Trout gain value moving to a corner. I don’t think the Nationals would be motivated to move a generational talent based on positional need, though.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 3, 2012 10:55 AM MST up reply actions
becomes better for the angels after this year, though
hunter leaves in the offseason, and an outfield of wells/trout/bourjos is very good
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and the nats will just sign upton after this year
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If Mike Trout had gotten his GED to enroll early in JuCo, maybe they would.
Because then ESPN could use glossy, dreamy terms to describe him instead of actually comparing their talent levels.
Otherwise, how great is the disparity in hitting ability? Considering they’re only 14 months apart, and just looking at minor league numbers accrued thus far… not too much.
Harper has considerable more power/arm Trout has a lot more speed/contact
would probably help both teams
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They were both on the same team in the AFL (still lost to the Rockies)
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It's just a question of upside
and considering both Trout and Harper will probably get the same amount of MLB time this year, I think you see Harper perform just as well, if not better than Trout offensively in the MLB.
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Oh and the Nationals decline the trade IMO, and the Angels accept easily
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I would bet this is right
maybe if they threw Aybar in from the LAA side and Lannan from the WSN side
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no
lannan is terrible, and nobody wants him, especially not the angels with possibly the best 1-4 in baseball
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Lannan to the Angels as a 5th starter actually makes sense
Keeps the Angels from relying on Williams as a rotation option and allows Richards more time. I was actually looking at the Angels as a possible Hammel destination. Richards is their Santana replacement IMO.
Your 2012 Colorado Rockies:freshly exorcised from Ty Wigginton
Lannan eats innings and Aybar is a FA at years end
with Itzuris on the roster they could afford to lose him
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career 4.61 SIERA
lannan is only worthwhile if you believe he’s truly capable of sustaining an ERA-FIP gap of .6, which is very, very unlikely.
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in the 13 years between 92-04 Tom Glavine's era beat his FIP
by a half a run or more 9 times not saying that proves anything, but LHP with good to great GB% aren’t going to have their full value captured by FIP
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are you really implying that john lannan is a similar caliber of pitcher to tom glavine?
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Of course not are you implying that Glavine outpitched
his FIP because of talent? or skill? or luck? or maybe can you admt that while DIPS has a place in player evualation it is a flawed system?
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Every system in every area of analysis is flawed in some way
and have exceptions to their purported rules. Perhaps it is due to talent not accounted for. However, I would be led to believe the reasons that Glavine outpitched his FIP are not something to rely upon when adding John Lannan to your team.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 3, 2012 12:57 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Fair enough why has Lannan out pitched his FIP
by .60 runs? 751 innings of good luck?
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possibly, yes
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I'm not sure, but possibly
Granted, the odds of that for one player over 751 innings is very very small. But the odds of that occurring to one pitcher out of all the pitchers that pitch in the majors isn’t quite so unbelievable.
Being a GB guy and having Ryan Zimmerman at 3B would help too
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 3, 2012 1:05 PM MST up reply actions
The GB% thing is what I am driving at
considering what the wOBA of GB is as opposed to LD or FB
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If it were that simple, we'd expect Aaron Cook adn Justin Masterson to have better ERAs than FIPs
But both have career ERA>FIP.
In fact, the top 3 in GB% last year (Westbrook, Lowe and Morton) had ERA>FIP
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 3, 2012 1:16 PM MST up reply actions
Fair point
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GB% may actually be a factor here in this case
but I think GB% correlations to FIP-ERA league-wide suggest it probably wouldn’t be sustainable if he changed environments that include some other potential unaccounted for factors.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 3, 2012 1:25 PM MST up reply actions
don't forget 2010
when he went 4.65/4.47/4.36/4.63 ERA/FIP/xFIP/SIERA
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Ooh and Glavine had 88, 90, 94, 98
case closed I concede your point
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i'm just saying,
you said he outperformed his FIP for 751 innings, which isn’t true. he has for 608 innings
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Well if you want to get that technical then
you have to throw that year out when you say he can’t sustain a .61 gap
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that would make the gap even larger, which makes it even less likely he'll be able to sustain it
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Lets try it this way your argument is
John Lannan cannot keep doing what he has done for 4 out of the last 5 years? Correct?
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John Lannan probably cannot keep doing what he has done for 4 out of the last 5 years
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by papality on Feb 3, 2012 1:33 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Well
lannan is terrible, and nobody wants him
with an xfip of 4.45 as opposed to say Matt Cain who has a 4.26 career xFIP?
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
matt cain has 1300 innings of beating the crap out of his xFIP
there’s not really any doubt it’s a skill of his at this point
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cain is a superior pitcher to lannan in literally every measurable way
i’m really not sure where you’re going with that
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So would you bet that it is more likely
that Matt Cain maintains around a 3.35 ERA with the NYY or that Lannan maintains around a 4 ERA with the LAA?
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every day of the week
and twice on sundays
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by papality on Feb 3, 2012 1:51 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting
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by DAWNMARIE01 on Feb 3, 2012 2:12 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
This appears to be a circular argument
Cain is a better pitcher than Lannan because of his numbers, and his numbers are better because he’s a better pitcher?
by BostonTransplant on Feb 3, 2012 2:01 PM MST up reply actions
cain is a better pitcher than lannan because
he strikes more batters out, walks fewer batters, and prevents home runs at a better rate
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by papality on Feb 3, 2012 2:04 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Well sure, of course
I’m not arguing the basic fact. It is interesting though that in some of the advanced stats they don’t look that different …
by BostonTransplant on Feb 3, 2012 2:06 PM MST up reply actions
gotta look at how they get there, though
look at FIP/xFIP gap as well
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he's also more durable
and is 4 days younger
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not that him being 4 days younger matters at all
it’s just interesting
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and he's a ground ball pitcher
which don’t typically sustain very low BABIP. i’m sure as ATF says zimmerman has a decent factor in this
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of course there are flaws with DIPS statistics
but just because tom glavine existed doesn’t mean the throw them out the window and say they’re invalid, when for the vast majority of pitchers and cases they fit perfectly
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by papality on Feb 3, 2012 1:03 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't say throw it out, I am saying don't make
it the only measure of your judgement, what were Jorge De La Rosa’s FIP/Siera’s before coming here? Matt Belisle? Jason Hammel? FIP has it’s place but it is far from gospel.
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Reinventing the way you pitch will render all prior statistical analysis meaningless
I don’t think DLR/Belisle/Hammel were doing good things with bad results as much as they just started pitching better.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 3, 2012 1:17 PM MST up reply actions
Sorta tomcat's point... it evens the discrepancy in upside between Harper and Trout
though I agree it’s not practical because of Lannan’s likely 2012 salary.
this got me thinking of Joe Saunders as a Comp for Lannan
he is kind of a good one IMO
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Lannan has better GB% Saunders has slightly better control
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Both are easily worth $5million
Unless you’re swimming in similar-level guys and don’t really need a 14th or whatever.
by BostonTransplant on Feb 3, 2012 2:03 PM MST up reply actions
Nationals won't accept this trade either way
Harper is the face and future of the Nationals franchise, along with Strasburg. Those guys are the reasons why people outside of DC are going to be watching Nationals baseball next year. They’ve invested way too much in him to risk his bat for a potential all star centerfielder, even if he is Harper’s only argument for being the best prospect in baseball. It’s not about value.
The Angels aren’t banking on Trout as much; they already have Pujols, Weaver, Wilson as franchise faces and Trout’s value is already being decreased by the presence of Bourjos.
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Strasburg and the two Zimmermans are good faces already
and Trout could just as easily become the new face of their franchise. Trout has all five tools and could easily become the next Carlos Beltran and if Werth bounces back his best value is in RF where he seems just as likely to block Harper as Bourjos is to block Trout
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You...just suggested that Jason Werth-less still has a level to bounce back to.
Can I have some of what you’re having? :-P
sure
i get it right here
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I'm seeing that his line drive rate has dropped 5 consecutive years
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 3, 2012 12:17 PM MST up reply actions
to a ridiculously low 16.8%
sounds like it’s due for a rebound to something closer to his career 20.5% mark
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I wouldn't be so sure
He hasn’t had that number since Matt Holliday was a Rockie and Franklin Morales was still Colorado’s top prospect. Five years is a trend.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 3, 2012 12:23 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
2009 19.7%
even if it doesn’t go all the way back, that’s just too low a number; league average in 2011 was 19.7%
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I wish there was a stat that tracked batspeed..
it might explain why a hitters line drive rate has dropped.
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by Charlie77 on Feb 3, 2012 2:50 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
that’s definitely possible – though I think a lot of batspeed studies have been pretty inconclusive (at the ML level at least) since there’s too much restriction of range.
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If they can track the speed of a ball flying across 60'6"..
then why can’t they track the speed of a bat that travels across the span of 3’?
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Maybe they do
and it’s just not publicly available. We’ve seen hints that batted ball trajectory and speed is being captured, which would improve defensive metrics a whole lot.
At the least, you could easily get bat speed for a player in a simulated game / batting cage situation by putting tracking devices in the bat like the animation studios use for human motion capture.
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They do track bat speed that major league level (or at least I think they do), but the restriction of range in batspeed at the ml level prevents developing clear conclusions usually – though for one person it could be rather telling I suppose.
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I think
they were working on a hit/fx set-up similar to pitch/fx
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especially with the plate discipline being right in line with career marks
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Too bad Reagins is gone
it could have been a Werth for Trout deal
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We will see but his second half 770 OPS was certainly more promising
than his first half, he did have a rotten June .154 .291 .286 with a .185 BABIP hard to say he is a lock to bounce back to his philly line of .282/.380/.506 but I wouldn’t give up on him yet
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Werth plays CF this year with Morse in left, Harper right
Morse moves to first base after LaRoche walks, Werth and Harper as corner outfielders, Nationals sign a centerfielder next year in free agency. He’s not blocked. The Nationals will make room for him, though there’s no doubt LaRoche and Werth were bad, bad signings by the Nationals FO.
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And Harper's value isn't tied to his fielding like Trout's is
I get the feeling Trout ends up like Carl Crawford with more walks. It’s not a bad thing, but if he’s not being played in centerfield his value is down.
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Maybe but whether you are talking about Ichiro
or Brett Gardner, or Crawford for that matter playing Trout in RF is hardly a bad thing
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trout won't be moving
he’s an even better CF than bourjos is
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Trout played more innings as a corner outfielder in the majors in 2011
than center. I think the Angels consider Bourjos their centerfielder right now.
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trout was also just getting a cup of coffee
he’ll be the full-time CF
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Yeah,but people were saying for years
if Crawford played center he would’ve been one of the top centerfielders in baseball, but he stayed in left. Crawford easily had the skills to be a +10 centerfielder, and if he did his peak would’ve been even higher. Trout is in the same exact position and he’ll be a 5-6 WAR player in left/right rather than a 7/8 WAR player in center. Harper looks like he’s going to be a good fielding right fielder, and there’s no way Trout’s ceiling with the bat equals Harper. Harper just has too much power and a pure ability to hit and adjust to pitchers.
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Probably but I'm not so sure
I’m always comfortable assigning sure things to prospects, including guys like Harper. It’s possible he has a hole that MiLB guys haven’t been able to exploit. His body could break down too, as he’s one of those kids who have been programmed since age 12 or whatever.
by BostonTransplant on Feb 3, 2012 2:12 PM MST up reply actions
i will shortly be making that my FB pic
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SweetSpot Blog has the list of teams most likely to lose 100 games:
Upside – Rockies aren’t on the list:
http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/20511/will-2012-see-too-many-100-loss-teams
Considering the Rockies are one of just two franchises who has NEVER lost 100 games, it's a safe bet
We’re very good at not being abysmal
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 3, 2012 10:14 AM MST up reply actions
I have a feeling...
That I could easily see the Astros and the Mets both losing 100. Astros on talent, Mets on divisional games alone plus talent/age/injury
Astros lost 100 last season for the first time
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The Rockies
and Matt Belisle agreed to an extension through 2013, option for 2014 https://twitter.com/#!/Rockies/statuses/165479170963542016
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Total worth
$4.3 million https://twitter.com/#!/DKnobler/status/165481363972177920
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this
"We made too many wrong mistakes" - Yogi Berra
by purpleJerseygirl on Feb 3, 2012 10:26 AM MST up reply actions
these are good moves by the FO. I was worried we had traded Street and were set to lose Betancourt and Belisle. Now we have those two, Brothers, and Lindstrom around through at least 2013. Good stuff.
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So we still have the Mattpen intact!!
Plus T-Rex and Mr. Wang
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by Charlie77 on Feb 3, 2012 11:28 AM MST up reply actions 3 recs
RIP Matt Daley
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Well he's not dead yet
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I think he’s somewhere in the Yankees’ system.
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by Andrew Martin on Feb 3, 2012 1:31 PM MST up reply actions
I think I could take a walk now
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It WOULD be comical to see Ardoin run the option
He’s not very fast, as I recall
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 3, 2012 10:52 AM MST reply actions
As long as
it’s the football announcers trying to pronounce his name and not Drew and George/Jeff again.
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WE SIGNED HERNAN IRRIBARREN AGAIN
Enjoy watching him every day, those of you going to Spring Training next month….
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 3, 2012 11:04 AM MST reply actions
And he can reclaim
best longest name
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He's Venezulan and his middle name is Alcides...
Any confusion with Alcides Escobar can only help him.
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A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
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I remember him.
Utility guy that performed pretty well in ST…. didn’t get a spot. Am I close?
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by CentralCaliRox on Feb 3, 2012 11:13 PM MST up reply actions
I don't know if he performed well
but he seemed to play every day for the first three weeks of camp
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Our salvation may have arrived...
Ehhh, or not. Tweeteth Kevin Goldstein:
The Rockies have signed former Brewers prospect Hernan Iribarren, who I used to really like, and was therefore wrong about.
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The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
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There are no apostrophes in plurals.
Belisle gets extended another year
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/02/rockies-to-extend-matt-belisle.html
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Get well soon Juan.
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So sorry
Didn’t see this above. Freaking rhinovirus
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That’s all…
How come it’s still only February?
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My blerg
Whatcha mean, "only"???
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by BostonTransplant on Feb 3, 2012 12:49 PM MST up reply actions
Root's Spring Training tv schedule:
2012 Rockies Spring Training Telecast Schedule
All times listed are Mountain and subject to change
Date Opponent Time
Sat., March 17 Dodgers 2 p.m.
Sun., March 18 at Mariners 2 p.m.
Sun., March 25 Reds 2 p.m.
Tue., March 27 at Diamondbacks 2 p.m.
Mon., April 2 at Mariners 2 p.m.
Tue., April 3 Mariners 2 p.m.
The off-season sucks.
That is all.
How about on the radio?
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Because you're a very bad man
And until you do good AND stay awake until the sun comes up, you will be stuck in February forever.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 3, 2012 12:52 PM MST up reply actions
It's Ned, Ned Ryerson, neddle nose Ned Ned the head
i did the whistling belly button trick at the high school talent show. Got the shingles real bad senior year almost didn’t graduate.
WEird comments from Matt Cain
Matt Cain…. professed love for SF and said he’s satisfied with what team did to improve the offense, but …….Cain also acknowledged he is excited by possibility of free agency. Prefers any extension talk wrap up before opening day. Also saidhis fate may be tied to Lincecum, since he values being part of a strong rotation where nobody has to be the ace.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 3, 2012 1:00 PM MST reply actions
And then both lose all control.
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by Thnikkaman on Feb 3, 2012 1:05 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
pineda trade makes that less likely
but if cain reaches free agency, he’ll be the best pitcher in the market and new york would be stupid not to throw gobs of money at him, luxury tax be damned
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Sickels on Minor League Ball - Asked & Answered thread:
Best bats in minors
Taking guys like Harper and Trout out of the equation, and not worrying about position, which 2 or 3 bats are you highest on? Concerned more with likelihood to reach ceiling rather than just highest ceiling.
by bmmolter on Feb 3, 2012 7:25 AM PST
.
no regard for positional scarcity montero, arenado, myers
by John Sickels on Feb 3, 2012 11:50 AM PST
Solid.
Interesting he has Myers as a top guy to reach high ceiling
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 3, 2012 1:19 PM MST up reply actions
Meyers dealt with injuries which scouts believed negatively affected his performance ...
And his showing was much improved in the AFL … scouts saw the same player they so loved before.
Doesn’t Myers have some work ethic/attitude concerns?
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the correct answer is: Marco Scutaro.
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I can't wait to see what he does in STI want him in Tulsa until June at least
but I can’t wait to see him against MLB pitchers
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Another Arenado Q ...
3B in 2017 5 years from now, Moustakas or Arenado?
Both still at 3B? What kind of stats to expect?
by shawngidley on Feb 3, 2012 7:39 AM PST
.
and how close offensively? PPPPPPUNTO 4 MVP 2010
by punto4mvp on Feb 3, 2012 7:40 AM PST up reply actions
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hmmm I like them both but I think I’ll go with Arenado. He will remain at third. Moose might have to switch if he bulks up too much.
Expect both to be .280+ hitters with 20+ homers in neutral environment. Arenado will have an edge with home park.
by John Sickels on Feb 3, 2012 12:40 PM PST
Can I dream for a minute?
If he does that this year we have the best offense in the NL, flat out. He won’t, likely, but still we’re not that far off from being really good. Just rolling 2-3 sets of sevens (Arenado, 2 SP’s) and we’re quite good.
by BostonTransplant on Feb 3, 2012 2:09 PM MST up reply actions
SF got 2010 Huff, Belt, and 2011 Vogelsong
AZ got Goldschmidt, Ryan Roberts and Collmenter… it really is our turn
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Tracy ensures snake eyes.
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The Dodgers think it's their turn too
Padres had their shot and lost it in 2007
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They got pretty lucky with Maybin
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That's cool
Arenado has a very unique swing. Bat stays level throughout the swing, which is why you see such contact rates.
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by CentralCaliRox on Feb 3, 2012 6:42 PM MST up reply actions
Who's going to have a better 2012:
A. Delta Cleary
B. Hector Gomez
or
C. Neither?
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D. Both
If not both, then Hector if he’s healthy. Delta if Hector is hurt.
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Video If I asked Jhoulys Chacin a question, I’d probably get thrown out.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 3, 2012 3:20 PM MST reply actions
JFK's Quote of the Day:
“Today’s baseball players are walking conglomerates. They have fantastic salaries, multiple investments, but we had one thing they don’t have today, the train ride. We didn’t always like it, but those rides kept us close as a team and as friends. Something you can’t get on a two hour plane ride that used to take you fifteen hours on a train.” ~Duke Snider
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I still say
We should Bring back JD Closser.
Just as long as it isn't JD Drew
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Why can't Hernandez start more than 90 games?
He had a player on the Reds that took time away from him the past couple years, and seems fully capable of starting 108 games to me, or two of three games in a typical series.
If so, our backup need not be Rosario and we could give him more seasoning at AAA. I don’t understand why we aren’t bringing back Morales or Alfonzo. Seems adequate to do that for now.
by The Fanimal on Feb 3, 2012 7:17 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
Morales signed with Pittsburgh
and Alfonso is in jeopardy of being suspended 100 games for illegal substance usage (appeal pending). The Rockies might still bring in an outside catcher but right now (and this is key) it appears Rosario would be ahead of Nieves and Lars Davis (as he should be). Hernandez should be able to start 100+ games this year but we will have to see how Tracy runs it and how well Rosario/backup catcher #2 does.
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I guess I'm out of it...
Didn’t realize the latest developments with those two. Yes, Rosario would be ahead of our remaining alternatives for backup catcher, it would seem. Still, he’s probably better off being the #1 guy in AAA to works on some things, rather than sit 70% of the time in Coors, which could stunt his growth.
I’m all in favor of signing or trading for a decent backup. Where’s Kelly Shoppach these days? We almost traded for him once. Or Josh Bard?
by The Fanimal on Feb 3, 2012 7:50 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Shoppach signed somewhere if memory serves
Bard has not popped up all Winter. He may be out of baseball.
There are a couple interesting vets out there … Pudge (see above), and Varitek.
by BostonTransplant on Feb 3, 2012 8:53 PM MST up reply actions
According to B-R
Bard signed with the Dodgers in December while Shoppach is with the Red Sox.
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Anyone else reading the Josh Hamilton stories with a seriously heavy heart?
Gotta be pretty miserable to have such a high profile job — no matter how well it pays — and a major addiction problem, and to have your regressions and slip-ups all over the news. Just sucks for him and I wish him luck (as someone who has struggled with not-as-severe but similar issues).
The thought did occur to me, though, that the Rangers now have to be planning for life without Josh, if not sometime during this year then next for sure. I wonder whom we could snag from them by dangling Tim Wheeler ..
by BostonTransplant on Feb 3, 2012 9:02 PM MST reply actions
I definitely do
I don’t know how it’s going to play out but I think I also read that Kinsler was with him, so maybe he had some help with him or at least someone to watch him. I hope the situation turns out all right because he was sure as heck fun to watch.
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It sounded like he did most of his drinking after Kinsler left
and explicitly warned him not to drink any more. That said, though, I definitely feel for Hamilton as well, and I’m sure he’s just going to renew his effort to stay sober in the coming months.
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