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Thursday Rockpile: Drew Pomeranz learned how to pitch in 2011, now he needs to get back to throwing heat

Jamie Moyer defies Jeff Aberle. Jamie Moyer has put on this uniform and he'll be darn tootin' if some whippersnapper is going to try and yank it off. Now get off of Jamie Moyer's lawn, you dumb kids.

Jeff Aberle wanted more attention given to the Rockies more promising young rotation candidates than to the veteran Jamie Moyer, and when Aberle speaks, the Associated Press listens as Drew Pomeranz' candidacy for the rotation is put into focus. While there are positive platitudes spun by Pomeranz and Bob Apodaca about the pitcher "learning to pitch" while his velocity was down in his short 2011 Rockies stint, Pomeranz gets closer to the issue with this statement:

"I really wasn't myself because of the whole end of the season," Pomeranz said. "My fastball was down a little bit. I kind of wasn't in rhythm with myself because I hadn't thrown very much."

Being frank, his fastball needs to have the 95 mph velocity and life shown in Cleveland for Pomeranz to be an effective MLB pitcher at this stage of his career. He could ask the old man Moyer, but the skills required to become an effective crafty lefty in the MLB take years of experience and learning at the top level. If Pomeranz wants to thrive in the MLB right now, he needs the ace like stuff to back him. While that velo shouldn't be expected at this point in Spring Training, if it's not getting flashed in a few weeks, the Rockies could be in for another long season without more promising developments elsewhere in the rotation.

Troy Tulowitzki is the new leader in the Rockies clubhouse. This is Tulo's team, despite all of the added leadership. Meanwhile, the Twins are running "Camp Cupcake" without the same type of team leadership they've had in the recent past, including prominently new Rockies outfielder Michael Cuddyer. I'm not sure where I'm going with this as I'm obviously far less cynical about the intangible aspects of the game than many on the Webz. It seems that the word "intangible" gets conflated with "imaginary" for some, when they are definitely two separate terms.

Ramon Hernandez, also a leader, and there you have a link to not prove it, but at least say so.

Off Topic

Star-divide

Aaron Weatherford was once a promising relief prospect for the Rockies and after missing the entire 2010 season recovering from shoulder surgery could still have been seen as a deep sleeper as late as a year ago. However, after missing the entire 2011 season as well, his release became almost inevitable.

Forbes magazine barely scratches the surface of most economic issues it writes about, and offers far less reporting insight than the amount of authoritative credit that it's given by the mainstream media that cites lists like the "Most Miserable Sports Cities" (which has Denver as the nation's 7th most miserable sports town in 2012.) Since that linked article brought up the Rockies, I'm using this post as a platform to rant about Forbes begging the question a bit with these self generated rankings as they later use this list to factor into other lists such as their "Most miserable cities to live" list, which then go on to factor into other lists, and so on. So while Denver teams haven't won championships lately, the comparatively robust attendance of said teams shows that fans really aren't that miserable in the town. Still, this is no excuse for you and your no division title ever ways, Rockies. Fix that and my counterarguments against this kind of fluff could get a lot stronger.

Speaking of the division, the Dodgers supposed 2nd place finish in the Prince Fielder sweepstakes underscores how quickly that particular well heeled rival could alter its outlook, especially once the ownership changes hands later this year. To switch to being Russ for a moment, this would be one of Donald Rumsfeld's looming "known unknowns" that will face the Rockies in coming years. The Dodgers will have money to spend at some point, and a solid enough foundation to have it make a significant impact on the division.

Forbes says we may be miserable as fans, but Yahoo!'s Mark Townsend lists the ten best things that say otherwise, at least as far as the Rockies are concerned.

Alright, that's enough for today. I've got to go make a list of the "Ten top reasons why human beings fall into the trap of clicking on list article links." Number one will probably be something to the effect of "We really want other people to do our research for us and not have to actually think about stuff."

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Fowler and Drew

Two most important pieces this season. If we get “step-up” performances from both of them to pair with expected performances from our vets Cargo, Tulo, Cuddyer, Chacin and Guthrie, I think we will surprise a lot of pundits.

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by RoxnVikes on Mar 1, 2012 8:22 AM MST reply actions  

I agree

Also don’t forget a hopeful bounce-back for Nicascio the top 4 in the rotation could be very solid with a tone of candidates that could develop into above average 5th starters.

by Chacinisthefuture on Mar 1, 2012 8:46 AM MST up reply actions  

HEY, WELCOME BACK!!!!!!

I havn’t seen you since last May.

Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 1, 2012 8:50 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah last year my wife had some medical issues and pretty much anything extra got blown off the table

but things are better now so I’m back to following sports on a more then just checking the box score after the fact manner.

by Chacinisthefuture on Mar 1, 2012 8:57 AM MST up reply actions  

Glad things are better

Good to have you back on board.

Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 1, 2012 9:21 AM MST up reply actions  

Oh

Yeah, that amazing firethrower.
No, I don’t need “step-up” from him, at least in the same way. Nicasio has already stepped up and is going to be a morale booster without doing much if any better than he did last year (which was awesome for a rookie). His come-back from injury to even be considered in the sparting lineup is huge and will probably go a long way to helping Pomz see a strong example of a young guy able to overcome health issues in the past.

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by RoxnVikes on Mar 1, 2012 10:25 AM MST up reply actions  

Totally agree..

…although at first I thought you were referring to Drew Goodman, which kind of confused me.

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by WhiskeyDrinkingMan on Mar 1, 2012 9:19 AM MST up reply actions  

All numbered lists,

especially ones by Forbes and Bleacher Report, should be banned from the Internet.

They’re always absolute crap.

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by DumbAndNerdy on Mar 1, 2012 8:24 AM MST reply actions  

Different audience..

not intended for those lost searching for prn.

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by Charlie77 on Mar 1, 2012 10:50 AM MST up reply actions  

Yes.

But Bleacher Report has hot chicks.

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by DumbAndNerdy on Mar 1, 2012 11:36 AM MST up reply actions  

This year or next may be the last year's befor the Dodgers become the Yanks of the NL

And have a 180 million payroll. I will be stunned if they don’t get Votto and Hamels

by Roxfan24 on Mar 1, 2012 8:25 AM MST reply actions  

Agreed

Which is why longterm lockups for NL West teams make sense now. The competition & price for doing that is about to go way up after a group of very rich people buys the Dodgers.

by maris61 on Mar 1, 2012 8:34 AM MST up reply actions  

The Dodgers do come across as a dormant volcano in this department but I'm not convinved they will be getting Hamels (Votto may be a different story though)

For some reason there’s this part of me that thinks the Giants are going to fail to agree to an extension with Matt Cain and the Dodgers are going to snatch him in a poetic reclamation of their status as bullies of the division.

Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 1, 2012 8:40 AM MST up reply actions  

A la Jason Schmidt?

MOYER IS OUR SAVIOR
@DylanZable

by CentralCaliRox on Mar 1, 2012 11:51 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

My favorite T-shirt when I lived in San Francisco

… was one given me by a former girlfriend. It simply stated:

Dodgers Suck

by Traindogger on Mar 1, 2012 8:45 AM MST up reply actions  

Votto in Dodger Blue scares the hell out of me

"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides

by TomCat009 on Mar 1, 2012 8:38 AM MST reply actions  

He'll be fun to hate!

"A fine beer may be judged with only one sip, but it's better to be thoroughly sure."

by Blake20th on Mar 1, 2012 8:47 AM MST up reply actions  

I would prefer to hate him as a 3/4 with Bautista in Toronto

"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides

by TomCat009 on Mar 1, 2012 8:51 AM MST up reply actions  

this

I like Votto too much for him to be a dodger.

Is it April yet?

by Rosenort on Mar 1, 2012 8:52 AM MST up reply actions  

The Cubs and Cards may also get in play

Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 1, 2012 8:53 AM MST up reply actions  

New ownership will want to make a splash. Ethier will be gone most likely

a 3/4 of Votto/Kemp could concern me. I think the Dodgers “spend what it takes” to get him.

by Roxfan24 on Mar 1, 2012 8:56 AM MST up reply actions  

I'd agree they are the favorites,

but I’m not sure they are likely to get him yet. A lot can (and it going to) happen on this front.

Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 1, 2012 9:22 AM MST up reply actions  

No Way on the Cards

Cubs, Blue Jays, Dodgers, Mariners, Nationals(two big contacts but cost controlled young stars in Harper, Rendon, Strasburg and JZimm and cheap role players like Espinosa, Ramos, Gio, Morse means they might be able to spare it), Houston(Luhnow is smart and the new ownership might want to make a splash), Mets(they can’t be poor forever with Beltran, Bay and Santana off the books soon they could jump in), Baltimore, and the Reds all could go 200+ for him.

"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides

by TomCat009 on Mar 1, 2012 9:04 AM MST up reply actions  

Why no on the Cards?

They have a significant amount of money coming off the books in the next two years and have a spot at 1B to fill long term.

Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 1, 2012 9:23 AM MST up reply actions  

i don't think the Cards want to get themselves in a Twins situation.

With a player sucking up a huge amount of salary for 10 years. They tried to keep Pujols. But i don’t see them going 9/200 for anybody.

by Roxfan24 on Mar 1, 2012 9:27 AM MST up reply actions  

5 Reasons jump to mind

1. Matt Holliday still owed 15 million a year for the next 5 years with 2 mil deferred
2. Yadier Molina 5/70-75 over the next 5 years
3. Adam Wainwright has two option years left and is 29 they will want to lock him up
4. Matt Adams looks like he could be a .300 20-25HR guy at league minimum
5. Tyler Green, Allen Craig, John Jay, David Freese are all nice players but at 27,28, 28, 29 they are unlikely to blossom into stars and with Furcal, Beltran and Berkman in their twilight they need long term answers at CF, SS, 2B, 3B and RF nothing pressing but Adams/Craig can likely handle 1B well enough that they won’t be spending 200+ million to watch a 1B get old.

"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides

by TomCat009 on Mar 1, 2012 9:43 AM MST up reply actions  

Yadi's contract:

2012: 7m
2013: 15m (1)
2014: 15m (2)
2015: 15m (3)
2016: 15m (4)
2017: 15m (5)
2018: 15m mutual option.

Holy hell that is stupid.

Luftfeuchtigkeitsregler über alles.

/often found at the Cracker Barrell.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Mar 1, 2012 5:12 PM MST up reply actions  

couldn't let another local boy leave after what happened with albert

but he’s been 3+ WAR each of the past 4 years and has seen his offense improve with age… it’s basically market value, but it is too long

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 5:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Too long yes ...

But given that catcher defense is probably undervalued in WAR calculations, probably right around what he is worth when healthy.

by Traindogger on Mar 1, 2012 5:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Maybe but with all the young pitching they have coming up

having the best defensive catcher in the game locked up through age 35 might be perfect

"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides

by TomCat009 on Mar 1, 2012 10:08 PM MST up reply actions  

i could never hate joey votto

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 1:05 PM MST up reply actions  

i would have to find out why he hated me first

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 1:06 PM MST up reply actions  

If he was a Dodger I could, I already hate Loney and he isn't good anywhere but Coors

Votto is awesome everywhere

"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides

by TomCat009 on Mar 1, 2012 1:06 PM MST up reply actions  

meh

i don’t really hate the dodgers

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 1:13 PM MST up reply actions  

how could anyone hate the organization that broke the color barrier?

or that had sandy koufax, or that used to be called the superbas?

yeah division and blah blah, but any perceived “rivalry” with the dodgers i see as kind of a fun one that makes everyone better. now, the giants, they must be destroyed.

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 1:19 PM MST up reply actions  

did it, though?

did it?

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 1:32 PM MST up reply actions  

http://youtu.be/kEJznRItL00?t=16s

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 1:42 PM MST up reply actions  

http://youtu.be/kEJznRItL00?t=16s

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 1:43 PM MST up reply actions  

The history of what they did for the league is undeniable and laudable.

but I still hate them.

Jason Hammel - permanently /2011'd
Happy Now?!
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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 1:36 PM MST up reply actions  

I have no problem doing so

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 1:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Just root for Kroenke to get the Dodgers

That will kill any chance of them actually signing any big name free agents.

We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!

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by Junction Rox on Mar 1, 2012 12:41 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

napoli is more likely

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 1:03 PM MST up reply actions  

All Questions Answered with John Sickels over on Minor League Ball

One of my favorite features – Sickels takes the time to answer all questions prospects:

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/3/1/2834434/all-questions-answered-open-9-am-cst

Be sure to review his “ground rules” at the beginning of the post if you are going to ask a question.

by Traindogger on Mar 1, 2012 8:44 AM MST reply actions  

Looking at the picture

If I was living under a rock since October, I would think that Tracy was fired and be wondering who this new manager was.

Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.

by Thnikkaman on Mar 1, 2012 8:44 AM MST reply actions  

Isn't this the manager that was ejected

and sneaked back in with a fake mustache?

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 10:09 AM MST up reply actions  

that's awesome

The off-season sucks.
That is all.

by DAWNMARIE01 on Mar 1, 2012 10:09 AM MST up reply actions  

Indeed

NY Mets manager Bobby Valentine, back in 1999. Truly the pinnacle of modern baseball history.

Rockies in October

by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 10:11 AM MST up reply actions  

It's just another day, but for some reason March 1st always seems like something more to me

Fliping that calendar away from February and knowing that the next time you perform this task it will be April when real baseball begins is a big checkpoint for me. I can see the finish line now. It’s not quite time for real baseball yet, but it’s visable on the horizon.

Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 1, 2012 8:45 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

I was also feeling good about looking through

this gallery this morning. Can’t help but get excited.

Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 1, 2012 8:47 AM MST up reply actions  

In picture 38.

Has EY Jr. ever hit a ball in the air like that?
It was good to see JDLR a couple of times in there also.

Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.

by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 9:00 AM MST up reply actions  

Saw that it was SI Traindogger and thought it was the Swimsuit Gallery RIRF!

sorry, couldn’t resist :-)

by The Toddfather's Goatee on Mar 1, 2012 9:19 AM MST up reply actions  

I get the confusion ...

but MY AVATAR IS A SNORKIN’ LABBIT – a bunny smoking a cig! It just isn’t the same as RIRF’s smiley face. It just isn’t!!!!

by Traindogger on Mar 1, 2012 9:22 AM MST up reply actions  

They are both yellow and they are both smiling

That’s all some people need I guess

Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 1, 2012 9:25 AM MST up reply actions  

Looking at them in my periperhal vision

They are the same.

If you look right at them, they are totally different.

Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.

by Thnikkaman on Mar 1, 2012 9:27 AM MST up reply actions  

Correct

But so much is peripheral vision when I’m typing that I always have to check myself.

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 10:11 AM MST up reply actions  

For me it's the first radio broadcast of a spring training game

Which will be…. SATURDAY! Less than 50 hours from now!

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by RoarFrom112 on Mar 1, 2012 11:20 AM MST up reply actions  

thats my feelings as well

I would put Pom at 3 and Nicasio at 4 so Juan gets the home opener.

Is it April yet?

by Rosenort on Mar 1, 2012 8:50 AM MST up reply actions  

yeah cause rotation order really means nothing after the first couple of series

so lets give the fans something to get behind on opening day, can only imagine how much emotion that game would have. Home opener + Nicasio = 1 rocking crowd

by Chacinisthefuture on Mar 1, 2012 9:01 AM MST up reply actions  

and if he is ready

he deserves the biggest ovation possible

Is it April yet?

by Rosenort on Mar 1, 2012 9:26 AM MST up reply actions  

Agree...Start him at Coors for the home opener.

Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.

by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 10:36 AM MST up reply actions  

I'll agree

And whoever wants it is going to have to take it otherwise it defaults to Moscoso. IMO I’m hoping for Outman to take it because he is a lefty and because he gets better each time he goes through the batting order so I think he is a better starter than reliever. Next I’d like to see White as the 5th starter.

by 3nS on Mar 1, 2012 9:10 AM MST up reply actions  

that picture =

“Joboo needs a refill!”

What the hell you lookin' at?

by Johnny Tits on Mar 1, 2012 8:50 AM MST reply actions  

Intangible does not get conflated w/ imaginary for me ...

While I believe that there is an importance level to saber, intangibles, etc are equally important, if not more so … :}

Lee Cress

by Cowboy33 on Mar 1, 2012 8:58 AM MST reply actions  

I asked myself this yesterday and was wondering everybodys thoughts

Are we “overrating”/placing unlreal expectations on Juan Nicasio? He did really well last year when he was up for sure, but I strictly remember him being very very raw and a primarily fastball pitcher. There were some games where he really would get smacked around because of his lack of secondary pitches. It seems like he got injured and came back and its such a great story that maybe we are forgetting some things

A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves

by waterboy31321 on Mar 1, 2012 9:02 AM MST reply actions  

he definitely needs to improve his secondary offerings ...

and his confidence to throw them in any count, but if he does that I believe he has solid 2-3 potential.

by Traindogger on Mar 1, 2012 9:12 AM MST up reply actions  

If he already has ice water in his veins

What will he have if he throws his secondary stuff in any count?

Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.

by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 9:13 AM MST up reply actions  

ooooo. Nice.

I was thinking Liquified Nitrogen

Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.

by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 9:22 AM MST up reply actions  

We may be forgetting some things.

But he is already pitching at 97 mph after breaking his neck just this last July. I’ll agree with you on the secondary pitches stuff. He is still learning, and those pitches will come around I’m sure.

Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.

by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 9:12 AM MST up reply actions  

I've had the same thought

Yesterday though I read a fantasy article on him from a neutral source and they picked him to be a player who wouldn’t get drafted in your fantasy leagues but would perform at a top 100 pitcher level. which means about a #3 starter league wide

by Chacinisthefuture on Mar 1, 2012 9:13 AM MST up reply actions  

I would actually consider drafting him in my league.

I had him last year before he got hurt.

Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.

by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 9:14 AM MST up reply actions  

He is expected to be a 4th starter, in our two playoff runs our 4th starters were

Josh Fogg 31GS 11-9 172 innings of 89 ERA+ in 07
Jason Hammel 30GS 10-8 179 innings of 109 ERA+ in 09
Last year
Juan Nicasio 13GS 4-4 71 innings of 108 ERA+ in 2011

he doesn’t need to get a whole lot better he just has to do more of what he has done for the last couple years. Have great control and use his fastball to get guys out. He was really two pitchers last year
Home 1.98 ERA 58GB% 2.88FIP 3.12 xFIP 4.00 K/BB .270BABIP .44 HR/9
Road 7.04 ERA 34GB% 4.68FIP 3.62 xFIP 2.73 K/BB .352BABIP 1.76HR/9
xFIP tends to be the most predictive year to year of all the DIPS lines and since Nicasio won’t be pitching in NYY stadium(4 hits 1 BB 2HR 4ER) and that he seemed to get better(2.93 ERA over his final 10 starts, including that 10K gem in SD) I think he will be fine

"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides

by TomCat009 on Mar 1, 2012 9:21 AM MST up reply actions   2 recs

rec'd

I love those splits! How can a guy be so good at Coors Field?? Oh wait, maybe its cuz he’s really good and just young and got the jitters outside of homefield advantage?

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by RoxnVikes on Mar 1, 2012 10:42 AM MST up reply actions  

Ubaldian? LOVE IT

Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.

by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 10:46 AM MST up reply actions  

nitpick

SIERA is the most predictive overall, FIP and tERA are the most predictive for pitchers who pitch in hitters parks

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 1:08 PM MST up reply actions  

For some reason I have a very good feeling about this team this year.

And I haven’t the last few years. Even last year while i was excited I felt we needed a lot from guys who hadn’t given it.

by Roxfan24 on Mar 1, 2012 9:11 AM MST reply actions  

I think this season will be a tale of two halves

The young pitchers and the old infield need to do well in the first half, then JDLR will bring some experience to the pitching staff although he won’t be 100% till next year. Then Arenado maybe Rosario will bring some youth to the lineup. And if there is a need to get a certain player Colorado has the resources to get it at the deadline.

by 3nS on Mar 1, 2012 9:27 AM MST up reply actions  

I like the offense and I don't really expect a ton from JDLR but will be glad to see him back.

Arenado will be here in June. I like our offense for this year and think the real key may be Fowler. 87-90 wins will take tis division and I think the second place team gets one of the WC slots.

by Roxfan24 on Mar 1, 2012 9:56 AM MST up reply actions  

Wait, what?

Mike Stanton isn’t Mike anymore?

by mkorpal on Mar 1, 2012 9:15 AM MST reply actions  

Apparently

he prefers Giancarlo. But I’m only going to call him by his full given name: Giancarlo Cruz Michael Stanton.

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 9:17 AM MST up reply actions  

I'm weird because I want to call him Gus

because Giancarlo Esposito is Gus on “Breaking Bad”. Yes my brain works in weird ways sometimes.

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 10:12 AM MST up reply actions  

FIFY

Yes my brain works in weird ways sometimes.

by Traindogger on Mar 1, 2012 10:13 AM MST up reply actions  

FIFY

Yes my brain works in weird ways sometimes.

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 10:14 AM MST up reply actions  

FIFYA

Yes my brain

works in weird ways sometimes
hurts.

by Traindogger on Mar 1, 2012 10:16 AM MST up reply actions  

EPIC FAIL!

Yes my brain works in weird ways sometimes hurts.

by Traindogger on Mar 1, 2012 10:17 AM MST up reply actions  

He only chose Giancarlo

Because “Fausto” has been tainted

by maris61 on Mar 1, 2012 9:26 AM MST up reply actions  

The article about Tulo in the Post and linked above

is pretty cool. Very nive to see the kind of respect the different generations have for each other. Makes me fall in love with Todd and Tulo all over again.

by RoxWS2014 on Mar 1, 2012 9:17 AM MST reply actions  

Yeah I enjoyed that piece

One thing I find really interesting is that Tulo has expressed that he’s not a good vocal leader when he’s struggling because he almost feels unworthy of telling other guys what to do if he’s not getting his job done. While it may have just worked out this way, it does kind of fit what happened last May when Tulo went into his slump and the team looked like a rutterless ship falling to an 8-21 mark in that timeframe. Obviously most of the 2011 season was a disaster, but May was surprizingly by far the team’s worst month despite still getting contributions from Ubaldo, JDLR, Tulo, Cargo, and Todd (all of whom would later be traded or get injured).

It can’t be proved, but a narritive in which the 2011 Rockies became a team without a leader in May (which could have led to problems in the clubhouse with guys not being accountable for the duration of the season) does fit what we’ve heard as far as the team culture stuff the front office has been preaching this offseason.

This is not to downplay the importance of having actual talent on the field (something Rockies clearly lacked at certain positions last season), but it is something to play around with.

Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 1, 2012 9:45 AM MST up reply actions  

I just love this attitude from Pomeranz
The Indians told [Pomeranz] he wasn’t competing for a spot [last Spring].

and "I was like, ‘Oh really, I’m not?’ And I went out and I didn’t give up a single hit the whole big-league camp because they kind of fired me up"

Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 1, 2012 9:19 AM MST reply actions  

Maybe we should tell Pom that he isn't competing for a spot this year as well

and then keep telling him that before every big league start, you only hee for 1 more start before we send you down… (five days later) I know you pitched another no-hitter last week but this is still you last start (five days later) I know you pitched another no-hitter…

by Chacinisthefuture on Mar 1, 2012 9:38 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

sounds like

he needs to tell himself that and he will do very well.

What the hell you lookin' at?

by Johnny Tits on Mar 1, 2012 11:16 AM MST up reply actions  

Interview with Espy

On MiLB.com – Drillers manager Duane Espy talks about his experience last year in the Texas League, as well as his outlook for the 2012 season.

http://www.milb.com/multimedia/vpp.jsp?content_id=20089331

by Traindogger on Mar 1, 2012 9:20 AM MST reply actions  

I'm still in the

“anyone but Tracy” camp, I would take a potato with a face crudely drawn on with a sharpie over Jim Tracy right now.

Is it April yet?

by Rosenort on Mar 1, 2012 9:28 AM MST up reply actions  

I like baseball, and I am ready for baseball to be played.

Sorry, I’m usually not this controversial but I felt like I needed to make a stand.

Filling up your senses like a night in the forest since 1992.

by frightened inmate #2 on Mar 1, 2012 9:57 AM MST reply actions  

If crazy finged opinions weren't allowed.

I would’ve been gone a long time ago

Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.

by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 10:37 AM MST up reply actions  

Dang it! a;sldkf;alsdkf;alskdf;askldf

Should’ve been fRinged

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by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 10:44 AM MST up reply actions  

But not bRinged?

Think about how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! --George Carlin

by J_Stone on Mar 1, 2012 12:31 PM MST up reply actions  

i give up

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 1:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Thinks of ex mother in law and says NOPE

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by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 10:44 AM MST up reply actions  

Crappy sports city, Cheapfartz, less-than-knowlegable fan base, snow in April

If you would just learn to dwell on these factors, you can cure yourself of this whole “liking baseball” nonsense.

by Northsider1964 on Mar 1, 2012 10:06 AM MST up reply actions  

Guthrie Sucks! He lost so many games last year!

OK, I feel a little better now.

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by frightened inmate #2 on Mar 1, 2012 10:14 AM MST up reply actions  

I like Guthrie

But this Justin Bieber thing has to be nipped in the bud. If I carried the name Guthrie, I would take the mound to either “This Land is Your Land” or “City of New Orleans” – not some awful boy-band noise.

by Northsider1964 on Mar 1, 2012 10:25 AM MST up reply actions  

I would make them play the entirety of Alice's Restaurant before I took the mound

sure, some people might get annoyed but those of us who enjoy things would think it was a pretty good joke.

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by frightened inmate #2 on Mar 1, 2012 10:33 AM MST up reply actions  

I thought about that song

But Arlo belting, “Good Mornin’ America How are Ya?” over the PA system has much more fan appeal.

by Northsider1964 on Mar 1, 2012 10:35 AM MST up reply actions  

Well they could just play it

between Raffy’s pitches and still have time to for Cat’s Cradle

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 10:35 AM MST up reply actions  

One of you folks who Tweets with Guthrie

(What the heck is a Twitter?) – Need to share these ideas with him. If Bieber is his walk-up music, that will be dreadful.

by Northsider1964 on Mar 1, 2012 11:11 AM MST up reply actions  

I don't tweet. I just twurk.

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 11:13 AM MST up reply actions  

sure, some people might get annoyed but those of us who enjoy things would think it was a pretty good joke.

This made me think of Jack Handy

by The Toddfather's Goatee on Mar 1, 2012 10:39 AM MST up reply actions  

that is evident when Raffy takes the mound

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by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 10:45 AM MST up reply actions  

I only think it would be fair that if Raffy comes in to close, they re-open alcohol sales until there are two outs. We get another beer, Rox make a good bit more money on concessions, and really, no one is any less safe driving home.

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by frightened inmate #2 on Mar 1, 2012 11:13 AM MST up reply actions  

Yes

The Sticking Your Fingers In Your Ears and Shouting “LA LA LA I CAN’T HEAR YOU” approach to Rockies fandom.

When will all these negative ninnies learn their role and stop pointing things out!?

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 10:16 AM MST up reply actions  

I don't tell people never to criticize

Hell, I complain about a lot of things related to the Rockies. But I don’t let those things stop me from being a fan, or being glad we have MLB in Denver.

by Northsider1964 on Mar 1, 2012 10:23 AM MST up reply actions  

I know, we've had this conversation before

I’m just of the opinion that you can both be aware of those glaring problems—some more glaring than others—and still enjoy being a fan.

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 10:25 AM MST up reply actions  

Why does everyone pick on Bob in Boulder?

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 10:20 AM MST up reply actions  

I will not have you besmirch the good name

of that fine construction worker by mentioning him in the same breath as Twit Talk.

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 10:27 AM MST up reply actions  

FIFY

Q: Why does everyone Traindogger pick on Bob in Boulder?

A: I actually have no firsthand experience with him, and don’t know if it is the same person as on MHH, etc. … but it came to light awhile back that some guy named Bob in Boulder was among the worst offenders in Twit Talk, so I have just channeled him here for your my amusement.

by Traindogger on Mar 1, 2012 10:35 AM MST up reply actions  

I know his stance on the Avs

but what does he say about the Rockies?

Seems like a good enough guy at MHH, just gets frustrated when ownership doesn’t spend money. Same with Rox?

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by frightened inmate #2 on Mar 1, 2012 10:24 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah and he's seems alright on DS....

Poor Bob

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 10:32 AM MST up reply actions  

Bob in Boulders a Douche

Sincerely,

Larry in Lakewood.

Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.

by Thnikkaman on Mar 1, 2012 1:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Depends on what Larry means by Douche

Sincerely,

Bob in Boulder

The off-season sucks.
That is all.

by DAWNMARIE01 on Mar 1, 2012 1:12 PM MST up reply actions  

ha!

The off-season sucks.
That is all.

by DAWNMARIE01 on Mar 1, 2012 1:16 PM MST up reply actions  

Lol

The best part about this is that I unintentionally (and incorrectly) used an apostrophe in the plural “apostrophes”

by The Toddfather's Goatee on Mar 1, 2012 1:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Grammar Nazi in Grand Junction should know that appostrophies on names are posessive

Signed,

Gabe in Glenwood Springs

Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.

by Thnikkaman on Mar 1, 2012 1:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Gabe in Glenwood Springs

Should look too posts above this one. Theirs a difference between a simple mistake and a lack of understanding of the rule’s of grammar.

Sincerely,
Grammar Nazi in Grand Junction

by The Toddfather's Goatee on Mar 1, 2012 1:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Grammar Nazi in Grand Junction

Shouldn’t get her panties in a knot

Sincerely,

Anne Marie in Aurora

Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.

by Thnikkaman on Mar 1, 2012 1:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Maybe Grammar Nazi in Grand Junction

likes knotty panties?

We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!

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by Junction Rox on Mar 1, 2012 1:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Anne Marie in Aurora

Should be able to notice the hilarious and ironic misuse of grammar in the previous post.

Best Wishes,
Joker in Gunnison

by The Toddfather's Goatee on Mar 1, 2012 1:25 PM MST up reply actions  

WHO IS TALKING TO WHOM HERE

GAH I’M SO CONFUSED

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 1:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Hard to navigate
into Japanese
移動するは難しい
back into English
Moving is hard
back into Japanese
移動は難しい
back into English
Hard to move
back into Japanese
移動するは難しい
back into English
Moving is hard

It is doubtful that this phrase will ever reach equilibrium.
Yes, I know it repeated a set of 4. That’s not equilibrium.

by The Toddfather's Goatee on Mar 1, 2012 1:28 PM MST up reply actions  

I think this is in the wrong post. Should be in OT right?

Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.

by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 1:29 PM MST up reply actions  

Meh.

Crossover post. I figure I might as well try to bring some people over to the translation party in the nonsense thread

by The Toddfather's Goatee on Mar 1, 2012 1:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Roxman4ever should mind his own postings.

Sincerely,

Pablo in Pueblo

The off-season sucks.
That is all.

by DAWNMARIE01 on Mar 1, 2012 1:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Who are you to tell R4E what he should mind?

Yours,

Juanita in La Junta

Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.

by Thnikkaman on Mar 1, 2012 1:38 PM MST up reply actions  

I am Pablo.

In Pueblo.

XOXOXO

The off-season sucks.
That is all.

by DAWNMARIE01 on Mar 1, 2012 1:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Pablo in Pueblo

Are you coming on to me?

Nora in New Castle

Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.

by Thnikkaman on Mar 1, 2012 1:42 PM MST up reply actions  

you people are not making this any easier

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 1:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Pablo in Pueblo

Juanita in La Junta

Get a room already!

Cat in California

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 1:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Do you have a spare we can use?

Dinger in Denver

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Get well soon Juan.

by Thnikkaman on Mar 1, 2012 1:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Depends on what you mean by spare.

Charlie in Cheyenne

The off-season sucks.
That is all.

by DAWNMARIE01 on Mar 1, 2012 1:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Dang it!

I should mind my own business

Carlie in Casper

by 3nS on Mar 1, 2012 1:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Why bother?

RM4E will do that for you!

Linda in Loma Linda

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 2:10 PM MST up reply actions  

I guess I'm easy to pick on

Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.

by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 2:11 PM MST up reply actions  

No no no

It was referencing to much earlier in the thread man.

Twas a joke.

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 2:18 PM MST up reply actions  

which joke was that?

Hard to navigate

Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.

by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 2:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Depends on where I can store my spare.

Wally in Westminster

Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.

by Thnikkaman on Mar 1, 2012 2:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I can store that spare for you

Trevor in Trinidad

We're trying to win a (#)(*@$%#)@#&$#)^ argument here!!!!

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by Junction Rox on Mar 1, 2012 2:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Trinidad is out of the way

Chris on Colfax

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Get well soon Juan.

by Thnikkaman on Mar 1, 2012 2:52 PM MST up reply actions  

I have enough trouble minding myself.

Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.

by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 1:43 PM MST up reply actions  

giggity

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 1:44 PM MST up reply actions  

/thud

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 1:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Joker in Gunnison

Should understand when he is being Trolled

Ephraim in Eagle

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Get well soon Juan.

by Thnikkaman on Mar 1, 2012 1:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Gabe in Glenwood Springs should know

that apostrophe is spelled a-p-o-s-t-r-o-p-h-e.

Signed,

Spelling Nazi in Salida

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by Junction Rox on Mar 1, 2012 1:23 PM MST up reply actions  

You guys are cracking me up!

Sincerely,

Dawn in Denver

The off-season sucks.
That is all.

by DAWNMARIE01 on Mar 1, 2012 1:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Happy to be entertaining

Cordially,

Gordon in Golden

Avalanche 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.

by Thnikkaman on Mar 1, 2012 1:27 PM MST up reply actions  

JIM TRACY IS MY HOMEBOY!!!!!!11

Signed,

Bob in Boulder

(We’ve come full circle)

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 1:29 PM MST up reply actions  

LOL

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 2:10 PM MST up reply actions  

AJ Burnett out indefinately with a broken orbital bone???

A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves

by waterboy31321 on Mar 1, 2012 10:40 AM MST reply actions  

Slow down

AJ can’t keep up with this breakneck pace!

Bats… for batting… noses… for smelling. Got it!

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 11:05 AM MST up reply actions  

haha funny but feel bad for him and the Pirates, mostly the Pirates

A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves

by waterboy31321 on Mar 1, 2012 10:51 AM MST up reply actions  

You've got to keep your eye on the ball.

Eye.

Ball.

Eyeball.

I almost had a gag, son.

/foghorn leghorn

Luftfeuchtigkeitsregler über alles.

/often found at the Cracker Barrell.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Mar 1, 2012 11:19 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

But

how will he ever throw 25 wild pitches now?

Rockies in October

by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 10:42 AM MST up reply actions  

Pirates.

Luftfeuchtigkeitsregler über alles.

/often found at the Cracker Barrell.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Mar 1, 2012 11:04 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

They deserve what they got

For agreeing to take Burnett.

If there’s a Top 10 Jerks list in baseball, he’s definitely on it.

by maris61 on Mar 1, 2012 12:05 PM MST up reply actions  

fffffffffffffffffffffffffff

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by DumbAndNerdy on Mar 1, 2012 11:37 AM MST up reply actions  

that sucks

hope he recovers soon, i’d love to see what AJ could do in the NL centralol

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 1:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Damn...

Hurdle can’t use him as a foil to alienate the clubhouse instead of Hurdle

"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana

by Oldfoagie on Mar 1, 2012 1:23 PM MST up reply actions  

tales of AJ as a clubhouse cancer are a myth

he was a great “clubhouse” guy with the yankees

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 1:24 PM MST up reply actions  

I know...

I was trying to console you.

"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana

by Oldfoagie on Mar 1, 2012 1:25 PM MST up reply actions  

well

missed that…

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 1:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Besides ...

With all the big egos on the yankees and A-Rod around; How could anybody in NYC tell if he was a cancer or not! Only his As(s)trologer knows for sure! :-)

"Why are they outlawin' the spit pitch? The curveball is a cheap 'n easy pitch; the spitter aint" Ty Cobb
"When I was pitching 90's in the seventies; I never thought I'd be pitching 70's in the nineties!" Frank Tanana

by Oldfoagie on Mar 1, 2012 1:30 PM MST up reply actions  

lol

i love alex, but that’s funny

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 1:32 PM MST up reply actions  

And this is why ...

I take everything you say with a shaker of salt.

by Traindogger on Mar 1, 2012 1:34 PM MST up reply actions  

i actually have a biological sodium deficiency

so i take a little extra salt on almost everything i eat

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 1:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Let's play a little game

In the 17 seasons since the Wild Card was added, at least one team with a record under .500 the previous season has made the playoffs 16 times. In fact, 33 total teams have made the postseason after having a losing record the year before in this era meaning on average we see two turnarounds like this each season. With two more Wild Cards being added for 2012, I’d say it’s likely we see at least that many this season.

So here are the 16 teams who finished under .500 last season in alphabetical order….

A’s
Astros
Cubs
Indians
Mariners
Marlins
Mets
Nationals
Orioles
Padres
Pirates
Reds
Rockies
Royals
Twins
White Sox

Pick the five, in order, who you think are most likely to make the jump this season.

Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 1, 2012 10:47 AM MST reply actions  

That's easy

1. Rockies
2. Rockies
3. Rockies
4. Rockies
5. Anyone but the Padres

by Chacinisthefuture on Mar 1, 2012 10:49 AM MST up reply actions  

Rockies v Padres in the wildcard game..

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by Charlie77 on Mar 1, 2012 10:57 AM MST up reply actions  

Impossible

That would never happen. What, I bet you’d believe that there would be a missed HR call, and a controversial call to end the game too. Pshh, you’re crazy.

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 11:00 AM MST up reply actions  

we could only win if the winning run touched home plate...

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 1:31 PM MST up reply actions  

i'll play

Reds
Nats
Rockies
White sox
Marlins

by Roxfan24 on Mar 1, 2012 10:52 AM MST up reply actions  

Very interesting

1. Reds — They’ve been on the verge for a while, and now with Prince and Pujols gone, they’re primed to do better in the NL Central.

2. Cleveland — Assuming Ubaldo gets back to form, they’re in this. If not, they could find themselves just missing out.

3. White Sox — They weren’t too far behind Cleveland last year.

4. Rockies — Questions with the rotation aside, they have the potential to have a stellar lineup, and if (big if here) people stay healthy, and the rotation finds its groove, then they have a great shot at one of the WC spots, or even the division.

5. Marlins — They spent enough money that if they aren’t at least in the picture in the NL East, then their season is an unmitigated disaster.

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 10:52 AM MST up reply actions  

Mine

1) Nats

They were only one game under .500 last season and have a bunch of young talent. I think they are ready to break out.

2) Rockies

Dropped a bunch of dead weight and third order winning percentage says they are not as bad as last season’s final standings want you to believe. Also, purple tinted glasses.

3) Reds

I like them for a bounceback season and the Cards and Brewers may not be as strong this season.

4) Marlins

Lots of pieces were brought in and it might just work. If they were in another division they might be higher on this list.

5) Royals

I feel like I have to pick an AL team. While I don’t think it’s likely, I could see this being the year that all that young talent finally break through. Who knows, if Detroit blows up for some reason they might even challenge for that divsion.

Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 1, 2012 10:54 AM MST up reply actions  

I would predict

that at least one WC team will come out of the AL West because of the Angels and Rangers both looking very strong.

Even if the Red Sox, Yankees and Rays aren’t where they’ve been in past years, I have a hard time believing the Royals would have a better record than all three of them.

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 11:04 AM MST up reply actions  

I agree (even more after thinking about it for a little while)

Even with the extra Wild Card, it’s hard to envision a scenario where the AL Central gets one of them this season. If Detroit has injuries (as they are heavily loaded in a few players) or catch 2011 Colorado Rockies disease, they things might get interesting.

That’s why the Royals were #5 on my list and not higher. I wanted to include an AL team but there’s really no great choices. You have the four in the AL Central which I feel are at least partially relying on a Tigers collapse and then you have the O’s, A’s, and M’s who all look to be terrrible picks.

Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 1, 2012 11:12 AM MST up reply actions  

Still

it’s fun to think about which of those teams, who were all pretty mediocre or downright bad last year, would turn it around and make the playoffs thanks to the expanded WC.

I love sports stories of teams making massive turnarounds after being below .500 the year or two before.

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 11:16 AM MST up reply actions  

And it might not even be because of the extra Wild Card

These kinds of turnarounds have been commonplace even before this addition. The new rules though will only cause these stories to unfold even more often.

Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 1, 2012 11:18 AM MST up reply actions  

On that note

Here are who the other WC teams would have been the last few years if this was in place:

2011: TB v. Boston and Atlanta v. St. Louis

2010: NYY v. Boston and Atlants v. SD

2009: Texas v Boston and Colorado v SF

2008: NYY v Boston and Milwaukee v NYM

2007: NYY v DET/Seattle (play-in for the play-in!) and Colorado v SD (naturally this ended up happening anyway.)

2006: Detroit v CWS and LAD v Philadelphia

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 11:33 AM MST up reply actions  

Okay

1. Reds
2. Rockies
3. Indians
4. Nationals
5. Marlins

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by TomCat009 on Mar 1, 2012 11:04 AM MST up reply actions  

Reasons

Reds – Latos and Chapman to the Rotation, Marshall and Madson to the pen makes their pitching a strength. Expect Votto, Bruce, Stubbs, Phillips and Hannigan/Mesoraco to give them top 5 production in the NL at their position, Rolen/Frazier/Fransisco to squeeze 2-3 WAR out of 3B, Cozart to at least double if not triple Janish’s 42 OPS+ at SS, and Chris Heisey to reverse his platoon splits for 2-3WAR in LF. The Reds could win 95+ easily.

Rockies – a Veteran Lineup may be a gamble but we are like to gain 5-6WAR just at 2B/3B alone throw in likely better performance from Chacin, Pomeranz, White and a whole season of Nicasio a very good/great pen and an the NL East canibalizing itself and i think we have a very good shot

Indians – Ubaldo will make or break them, I like Santana to break out and Choo/Lowe to rebound

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by TomCat009 on Mar 1, 2012 11:27 AM MST up reply actions  

Nats and Marlins basically added a lot of talent

Jackson and Gio make the Nats legit, the Marlins added so serious help to a young core.

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by TomCat009 on Mar 1, 2012 11:28 AM MST up reply actions  

ooooh

1) Rockies – can you say “homer”?
2) Reds – last season was an aberration. They’ll get back to their winning ways, especially now that Prince and Albert have left the division.
3) Marlins – I think the Miami experiment will work for at least a season or two.
4) Cleveland – their outfield is stacked with the addition of Pence last season, and they added Hanson to their rotation… oh wait, this isn’t OOTP. BAHA! Seriously though, Masterson will break out, Ubaldo will return to semi-acedom, and their young talent will start to make an impact at the ML level.
5) I think the A’s will surprise a lot of people this season – assuming Yoenis proves to be an impact player. I doubt they’ll make the playoffs, but they’ll be better this year.

by The Toddfather's Goatee on Mar 1, 2012 11:08 AM MST up reply actions  

Interesting

Looks like the Reds are the most popular non-Rockies pick.

Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 1, 2012 11:15 AM MST up reply actions  

their Rotation could be amazing

24yo Latos = ACE
25yo Cueto= highly regarded prospect 2.31 ERA last year
23yo Chapman= 106MPH from left side walked too many but K’d 12.8/9 Randy Johnson upside
23yo Leake= 3.11K/BB last year
25yo Bailey= Homer is the right name for him but still had a 3.21K/BB

Not mention adding Marshall 150 innings of 4.04K/BB with over 10K/9 since 2010, and Madson 113 innings of 4.34K/BB with over 10K/9 over last two seasons.

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by TomCat009 on Mar 1, 2012 11:41 AM MST up reply actions  

Oh geez. SOmeone mentioned Marshall but I will let it pass this time.

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by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 11:48 AM MST up reply actions  

1. nationals
2. marlins
3. rockies
4. padres
5. mariners

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 1:12 PM MST up reply actions  

I think the Nats could very well be the most improved of all those teams

but their division works against them making the playoffs more than, say, the Reds or Rockies.

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by Junction Rox on Mar 1, 2012 1:26 PM MST up reply actions  

i still see the reds as 3rd fiddle in the NL central

and i think we could very easily win the division this year rather than the WC

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 1:29 PM MST up reply actions  

agreed.

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by CentralCaliRox on Mar 1, 2012 2:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Rockies (obviously biased)
Reds
Indians
Pirates
Marlins

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by Thnikkaman on Mar 1, 2012 1:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Why the Pirates?

I mean, they do have the greatest infielder of all time, but…

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 1:22 PM MST up reply actions  

fify

I mean, they do have the greatest infielder outfielder without a segway of all time, but…

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by Thnikkaman on Mar 1, 2012 1:23 PM MST up reply actions  

wh...

what? don’t all outfielders not use segways?

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 1:25 PM MST up reply actions  

FYI, if you're going to ST this weekend..

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by Charlie77 on Mar 1, 2012 10:48 AM MST reply actions  

This makes me want to move back :(

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 11:41 AM MST up reply actions  

Wow

All of the Purple Row writers at one party.

It must have been fun. Isn’t Rox Girl’s pink hat cute?

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fify

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by hotdoglady on Mar 1, 2012 12:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Looks good to me.

But Swanner is a bit over rated. He can hit HRs but what else can he do?

by 3nS on Mar 1, 2012 10:58 AM MST up reply actions  

No, it's definitely a very large concern, but the power is extraordinary, making him a difficult prospect to rank.

If he cuts down on the K’s to the point of a .250/.260 type of MLB average projection, he’d be one of the game’s top prospects, not just for the Rockies, but top 50 overall. As it currently stands, however, you can’t project him to make the majors at all. So it’s a dilemma that you have to weigh the tremendous upside on the one hand with the tremendous risk of zero contribution on the other. Having him around the #10 to #15 rank internally for the Rockies makes sense to me as a decent compromise of this.

by Rox Girl on Mar 1, 2012 12:08 PM MST up reply actions  

It's not just the K-rate ...

His BB% leaves something to be desired. But if you want to talk improvements, ZERO walks in the Pioneer league debut in 2010 (only 76 AB’s but still) up to 20 in 2011 (159 AB’s), but he was repeating the level. Swanner will still be playing 2012 at age 20, and his performance in A-ball will tell a lot.

by Traindogger on Mar 1, 2012 12:16 PM MST up reply actions  

well if you look at progression his BB% in 2011 went from 0% in June

to 11.5 in July 14% in August and 34% in Sep(10PA) the kid could become Napoli/Norris or he could fall apart but 75-80 Power is rare and a 19yo Catcher with 17HR in 250 PA is very interesting no matter how raw.

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by TomCat009 on Mar 1, 2012 12:25 PM MST up reply actions  

he has exceptional bat speed that can't be taught

plate discipline could be

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 1, 2012 12:37 PM MST via Android app up reply actions  

Well and he is way raw

Napoli posted a 9.0BB% 32.6K% in AAA in 06

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by TomCat009 on Mar 1, 2012 1:05 PM MST up reply actions  

maybe I'll be proven wrong

but I really think a number of the roster changes made are in an effort to make it much more tinker proof than it’s been. there will still be 1B issues, and Casey Blake’s health will kind of play a role but I don’t know if he’ll be able to mess with it as much as last year.

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by frightened inmate #2 on Mar 1, 2012 11:04 AM MST up reply actions  

All Blake needs to do

is to stay healthy long enough for Arenado to tear up AA and get thrown straight into the Rockies clubhouse.

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 11:07 AM MST up reply actions  

on the other hand, never underestimate Tracy's Tinkerability

and last time I checked, there’s no rule against using your utility infielder to give your left-fielder a breather on Sundays.

by rockiesfan on Mar 1, 2012 11:10 AM MST up reply actions  

That's called

refusing to be ignored.

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 11:10 AM MST up reply actions  

Only if the lineup card

has all the players listed in a pinwheel with the Tracy Sorting Hat attached as the spinner pointy thing.

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 11:12 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Hey Guys been out of Rockies news for a while

Can anyone tell me where JDLR is at? Any chance he pitches this spring at all and could be make the rotation?

by BringItHome on Mar 1, 2012 11:22 AM MST reply actions  

Actually one of the articles in the Denver Post I think said July, at least in Apodaca's view..

I was going to link that but forgot. That seems a realistic timetable and it should help him get back to being effective rather than just healthy.

by Rox Girl on Mar 1, 2012 11:50 AM MST up reply actions  

I like your reasoning

There are plenty of pitchers and no reason to rush. I’d hate for him to come back too soon and him not be effective and take the place of a young guy that might be pitching well.

by 3nS on Mar 1, 2012 12:04 PM MST up reply actions  

It depends

If the rotation is floundering, they might bring JDLR back before he’s 100% out of desperation. Of course, that would probably be the least of our concerns at that point.

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 12:51 PM MST up reply actions  

True

But as stated earlier in the thread, the is basically 6-7 guys trying to be the 5th starter. I just don’t see that many floundering. The rotation can’t flounder as bad as they did last year can they?

by 3nS on Mar 1, 2012 1:49 PM MST up reply actions  

I've been saying all along that it will be after the All-Star break

Given the fact that he won’t be throwing at least until late April

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by Jeff Aberle on Mar 3, 2012 8:50 AM MST up reply actions  

here here.

Rec’d

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by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 12:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Hooray!

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 12:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Our team is better than that other team

Rah!

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by WalkInRight on Mar 1, 2012 12:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Marge

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by Junction Rox on Mar 1, 2012 5:06 PM MST up reply actions  

k-w-y-j-i-b-o

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by The Lodo Magic Man on Mar 1, 2012 5:18 PM MST up reply actions  

???

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by DumbAndNerdy on Mar 1, 2012 5:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Yadier got a big stack of dolla bils

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by waterboy31321 on Mar 1, 2012 1:17 PM MST reply actions  

Ouch.

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by Traindogger on Mar 1, 2012 1:35 PM MST up reply actions  

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Okay, maybe I do need some air:-)
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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 1:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Tom Helmer

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Thrilled to announce I will be joining Altitude Sports for their Altitude Sports Summit Show over the next two months starting next week.

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by Russ Oates on Mar 1, 2012 1:56 PM MST reply actions  

Yay!

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 2:10 PM MST up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind if this meant

he would join the Avs and Nuggets postgame shows.

I’m not the biggest Helmer fan in the world, but he would be an upgrade to some of the guys on those shows…

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by Junction Rox on Mar 1, 2012 2:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Seriously

For all the griping we do about ROOT, Altitude is pretty rotten outside of the actual game broadcasts.

by The Toddfather's Goatee on Mar 1, 2012 2:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Maya Stark rocks

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 2:40 PM MST up reply actions  

icwydt

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 2:49 PM MST up reply actions  

How about Now?

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by Thnikkaman on Mar 1, 2012 2:53 PM MST up reply actions  

/misses JR

Nuggets have no crazy now :(

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 2:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Have you seen Chris Anderson?

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by Junction Rox on Mar 1, 2012 3:03 PM MST up reply actions  

IMO

Tats and mohawks are not the measure of the kind of crazy we need on the Nuggets right now.

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 3:05 PM MST up reply actions  

I saw him on that tattoo rality show on Spike as a judge.

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by Thnikkaman on Mar 1, 2012 3:06 PM MST up reply actions  

*reality

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by Thnikkaman on Mar 1, 2012 3:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Hey, I watched that too.

When they were introducing the guest judge, I knew who it was the second NBA was mentioned.

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by Russ Oates on Mar 1, 2012 2:00 PM MST reply actions  

andrew both looks and souds different that i had imagined

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 2:03 PM MST up reply actions  

What were you expecting?

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by DumbAndNerdy on Mar 1, 2012 2:13 PM MST up reply actions  

a deeper voice

and different hair

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 2:16 PM MST up reply actions  

With technology,

we can fix both of those things if you’d like.

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by DumbAndNerdy on Mar 1, 2012 2:20 PM MST up reply actions  

that'd be fun

see how many AMarts we can create

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 2:21 PM MST up reply actions  

I can grow my beard longer and better.

96 year old Jamie Moyer. Love it

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by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 2:14 PM MST up reply actions  

you've never listened to podcasts

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 1, 2012 2:32 PM MST via Android app up reply actions  

correct sir

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 3:58 PM MST up reply actions  

i never got the podcast thing

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 4:55 PM MST up reply actions  

What's to get?

1)You click the link.
2)You listen to people talk about the Rockies.
3)Profit!

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 5:02 PM MST up reply actions  

mmm

i generally can’t stay focused on things like that. same reason i can’t do audiobooks

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 5:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Interesting...

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 5:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Do you listen to talk radio?

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 5:08 PM MST up reply actions  

nope

same reason

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 5:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Gotcha.

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 5:11 PM MST up reply actions  

although it's weird

i’m almost completely dependent on some form of background noise to help me fall asleep

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 5:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Get married.

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by DumbAndNerdy on Mar 1, 2012 5:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Permanent background noise?

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 5:19 PM MST up reply actions  

No.

That’s kids.

Just at night is marriage.

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by DumbAndNerdy on Mar 1, 2012 5:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Until she ask the question

“Are you listening to me?” then you realize its not background noise at all.

It's Jim Tracy's Fault.

by wolf213 on Mar 1, 2012 5:20 PM MST up reply actions  

heh

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 5:22 PM MST up reply actions  

if i'm driving, and all of my FM presets are on commercial, and for whatever reason i don't have my phone or other external music source,

i will switch to talk radio for the sole reason of preventing myself from listening to commercials. i simply cannot stand radio commercials

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 5:11 PM MST up reply actions  

huh?

Sorry, I wasn’t paying attention.

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 5:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Some people enjoy listening while commuting to work..

or playing it at their computer. It’s two PR people discussing the Rockies weekly, I’ve found it informative and fun to listen to.

/SDCat esplains thingz soo much better than me.

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by Charlie77 on Mar 1, 2012 5:04 PM MST up reply actions  

LOL....

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 5:06 PM MST up reply actions  

FanGraphs Prospect Chat going on rt now:
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/mike-newman-prospects-chat-3112/
4:10 [Comment From the other nolanthe other nolan: ]
what is nolan arenado’s mlb floor for 2012 and beyond?
Thursday March 1, 2012 4:10 the other nolan

4:11 Mike Newman: I’m not sure Arenado makes much of an impact in 2012. He should be ready by 2013, but the Cal to Colorado is an awfully big jump – no matter how good he was in the AFL.

by Traindogger on Mar 1, 2012 2:33 PM MST reply actions  

I'm glad to hear someone say this actually

I’m nervous as hell that everyone’s so pumped about a 20 year old. I’m as excited as anyone, don’t get me wrong. I just hope he’s the real deal.

by The Toddfather's Goatee on Mar 1, 2012 2:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Probably because Brandon Wood is going to dominate this year and its going to be tough to take him out of the lineup

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by waterboy31321 on Mar 1, 2012 2:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Here's my totally scientific probability matrix for Arenado in 2012

Up in the majors by:

OD: 5%
June: 50%
After ASB: 75%
September: 99%

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by Jason Wells on Mar 1, 2012 3:18 PM MST up reply actions  

I've been saying "he better not have much impact on 2012"

… because if he does it means we either have a lot of injuries or the team is out of contention way too early. Fans may clamor but I don’t think the FO would even consider bringing a guy from A-ball to the big leagues that fast otherwise.

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by RoarFrom112 on Mar 1, 2012 4:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Tulo jumped from AA to MLB

But that’s also Tulo.

I still wouldn’t be that surprised if they gave him some big league ABs this season. Either because of injury, or expanded rosters later in the season.

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 2:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Emphasis on AA

Not A.

Aside from the AFL (SSS, great hitting environment) Arenado hasn’t yet played above A-ball.

by Traindogger on Mar 1, 2012 2:45 PM MST up reply actions  

A+ is practically AA!

But seriously, you’re right. It would be a big mistake to rush the kid. He’ll definitely be the source of a lot of attention if he starts tearing it up in Tulsa though.

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 2:51 PM MST up reply actions  

And when (not if) this happens ...

… the discussion about moving him up to the show will be warranted.

by Traindogger on Mar 1, 2012 2:54 PM MST up reply actions  

haha sorry but TFG's thoughts are pretty much mine

I’m nervous as hell that everyone’s so pumped about a 20 year old. I’m as excited as anyone, don’t get me wrong. I just hope he’s the real deal.

by steakman on Mar 1, 2012 5:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Couple of Matzek questions

Newman hasn’t given up on him just yet. Feels like he might be in the minority.

Going in to this season he’s definatly my #1 story line to follow. Honestly all levels will have intrigue to me. Except Casper…err Grand Junction…Any recommendations out there of who to watch for there? Aquino maybe?

by remyrems on Mar 1, 2012 3:37 PM MST reply actions  

Carl Thomore should be repeating Grand Junction..

he has good power. Here’s a video of him. Same size as Michael Cuddyer, probably a good comp too. Also Dillon Thomas may repeat, although his lefthanded power might move him into Asheville or Tri-cities.

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by Charlie77 on Mar 1, 2012 5:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Almost forgot Name That Rockie!

W L ERA GS CG SHO IP ERA+ WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB
16 9 3.96 32 2 1 211.1 118 1.344 10.1 0.6 2.0 4.1 2.0

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 3:39 PM MST reply actions  

Got it on the first try!

My all-time favorite Rockies player. Always thought he would end up tossing the first no-no.

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 3:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah

The high WHIP, low HRs… plus I figured how many Rockies pitchers have ever pitched a CG SO?! :-D I’m gonna miss Cookie.

by The Toddfather's Goatee on Mar 1, 2012 3:56 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm going to miss him too

But he never really achieved the level he was capable of. That ’08 season was great, but there were a few others where, as a Cook fan, it was to tune into his starts and see his sinker staying up.

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 3:59 PM MST up reply actions  

strikeouts are a dead giveaway

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 4:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Josh Fogg?

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 3:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Jason Marquis?

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by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 3:48 PM MST up reply actions  

i got one:

W L ERA GS CG SHO IP ERA+ WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB
10 2 2.8019 0 0 112.2 179 1.207 9.0 0.8 1.8 5.4 2.91

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 4:05 PM MST up reply actions  

I wonder which non-Rockies have a career ERA under 3 at Coors

That might be the only thing comparable to an entire season for a Rockies player.

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 4:27 PM MST up reply actions  

glavine has 3.68 in 85 IP

and is of course the only pitcher to have thrown 2 shutouts at coors

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 4:31 PM MST up reply actions  

wow, greg maddux has a 5.19 ERA also in 85 IP

did not see that coming

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 4:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Glavine had a career 2.97 ERA against Colorado

in 193.2 IP.

Maddux had a 4.10 career ERA against the Rockies, but he also had a severe drop off in his stats whereas Glavine was more consistent. Glavine never posted an ERA under 2.5 in a season whereas Maddux had ridiculously low ERAs like 1.56 and 1.63 in ‘94 and ’95, but didn’t get below 4 against after the 2003 season.

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 4:42 PM MST up reply actions  

you must be looking at overall opponent splits

i’m looking at coors field specifically

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 4:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes

I was trying to see how they stacked up against the Rockies overall.

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 4:46 PM MST up reply actions  

oswalt is 2.25 in 35 IP...

webb 4.00 in 87 IP
lincecum 3.61 in 62 IP

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 4:43 PM MST up reply actions  

I figured Oswalt would be in there

it always seems like he pitches well here.

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 4:47 PM MST up reply actions  

carpenter is 2.20 in 20 IP

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 4:50 PM MST up reply actions  

looks like that's about it

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 4:54 PM MST up reply actions  

ding

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 4:20 PM MST up reply actions  

1994, the first year a rockie would receive cy young votes

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 4:20 PM MST up reply actions  

and last until jeff francis in 2007

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 4:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Freemans 1994 season has been discussed on PR before

Hardly a google search. A google search would be a guy like Craig House.

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by wolf213 on Mar 1, 2012 4:22 PM MST up reply actions  

2nd all time in WHIP, record for bb/9

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 4:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Yea, this wasn't exactly the best example.

But some of them have been pretty damn obscure.

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by CentralCaliRox on Mar 1, 2012 4:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Matt Belisle

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by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 4:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Missed the games started stat

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by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 4:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Marvin Freeman in 1994

That’s why he only had 19 starts; the strike.

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by free7694 on Mar 1, 2012 7:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Marvin Freeman

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by TomCat009 on Mar 1, 2012 10:11 PM MST up reply actions  

How far would it travel at Coors?

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/prince-fielder-hits-611-foot-home-run-batting-212749120.html

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by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 3:45 PM MST reply actions  

HOLY CRAP

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 3:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Thats what I thought

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by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 3:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Sounds a bit suspect
But with the help of Lakeland colleague Dick Scanlon, who held the other end of the tape, we walked off 226 feet from the fence to the spot where I was told — by the home-run retriever who picked up the ball — it came to rest.

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by sasperilla_pete on Mar 1, 2012 3:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Why not?

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 4:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Ball rolled, sketchy information.

Not sure this should’ve even been written about.

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by CentralCaliRox on Mar 1, 2012 4:15 PM MST up reply actions  

mickey mantle has several measured 600+ ft shots

and is said to have regularly hit balls out of yankee stadium in batting practice…. its certainly possible, as we know prince has a ton of power and great bat speed, but i don’t know if it’s probable

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 4:15 PM MST up reply actions  

.

Luftfeuchtigkeitsregler über alles.

/often found at the Cracker Barrell.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Mar 1, 2012 5:25 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

lol

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 5:28 PM MST up reply actions  

remington writes something else that isn't drivel

that’s two in a row, i wonder how long he can keep the streak up

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/ryan-braun-case-ped-attitudes-changing/

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 5:33 PM MST reply actions  

JFK's Quote of the Day:

“I’m not a big guy and hopefully kids could look at me and see that I’m not muscular and not physically imposing, that I’m just a regular guy. So if somebody with a regular body can get into the record books, kids can look at that. That would make me happy.” ~Ichiro Suzuki Seattle Post-Intelligencer Report (August 14, 2004)

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by jrockies on Mar 1, 2012 5:42 PM MST reply actions  

this is pretty cool

http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2012/2/28/2830917/vote-on-the-all-time-dream-lineup

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 5:43 PM MST reply actions  

my team:

campanella, gehrig, hornsby, boggs, wagner, ruth, mantle, raines, johnson w

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 5:54 PM MST up reply actions  

I would be writing in quite a few there.

I have some odd favorite players.

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by DumbAndNerdy on Mar 1, 2012 6:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Good picks

I went with Bench, Gehrig, Robinson, Schmidt, Wagner, Ruth, DiMaggio, Williams, W. Johnson

It was really hard not to go full homer and pick Tulo at SS, though…

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by Junction Rox on Mar 1, 2012 6:11 PM MST up reply actions  

i was thinking of picking tulo, too

worried it might skew data though, lol.

i really would have wanted to do what one of the BtB commenters suggested and gone with aaron in left and ruth in right

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 6:18 PM MST up reply actions  

toughest choice for me was morgan or hornsby

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 6:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Hornsby probably would be my pick as the best

but when you add in what he went through and what he brought to the game I had to go with Robinson there.

I was a bit surprised at how underwhelming the 3B field was. If Rose had been an option there I probably would have gone with him. Thought about Brett or Brooks Robinson, but decided Schmidt combined bat and glove the best of the three.

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by Junction Rox on Mar 1, 2012 6:25 PM MST up reply actions  

right field is so stacked

it’s like it’s not fair.

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 6:34 PM MST up reply actions  

My second choice

And I’m not sure he wasn’t a better all-around player than Ruth (pitching aside). But Ruth is Babe Ruth. The man changed the game. That tipped the scales for me.

That Aaron guy didn’t really suck either.

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by Junction Rox on Mar 1, 2012 6:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Then again he was 38

so he only had maybe one or two more seasons…

It's Jim Tracy's Fault.

by wolf213 on Mar 1, 2012 7:03 PM MST up reply actions  

I went with

Rodriguez, Pujols, Hornsby, B. Robinson, Tulo (yeah, yeah, it was a homer pick, so sue me), Aaron, Griffey, T. Williams, Gibson

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by free7694 on Mar 1, 2012 7:58 PM MST up reply actions  

I picked Tulo Also

if He keeps it up, he will be the best SS in history.

It's Jim Tracy's Fault.

by wolf213 on Mar 1, 2012 8:01 PM MST up reply actions  

If he remains healthy and productive

Picking between him, Honus Wagner and Ernie Banks will be like splitting hairs.

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by free7694 on Mar 1, 2012 8:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Mine were:

Piazza, Killebrew, Lajoie, Wagner, Schmidt, Ruth, Griffey, T. Williams, C. Matthewson

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by Charlie77 on Mar 1, 2012 10:08 PM MST up reply actions  

MLB Network just did their top 100 players in baseball right now

Tulo came in at #4. The top three were Kemp, Verlander, M. Cabrera. The only other Rockie was Cargo at #54.

They may be a weighing 2011 a little to much here in making Kemp their #1 selection as he is still just 1.5 years removed from a 2010 season in which his OBP was .310.

Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 1, 2012 8:03 PM MST reply actions  

I'm sorry, but Tulo is not worse than that fat toad Cabrera.

Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.

by free7694 on Mar 1, 2012 8:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Hitting

Cabrera is much much better. Defensively Tulo wins that category but not offensively.

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by jrockies on Mar 1, 2012 8:10 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm calling it now.

CarGo wins MVP in 2012.

Book it.

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 8:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Heh.

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 8:21 PM MST up reply actions  

I think I speak for most Rockies fans

when I say: When/if Tulowitzki wins the MVP I hope he doesn’t die right after he gets that trophy. The team needs him for a few more years.

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by jrockies on Mar 1, 2012 8:23 PM MST up reply actions  

If CarGo and Tulo end up splitting votes for MVP and neither gets it

then I won’t be too upset, because it will have been a good season.

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by glaucophane on Mar 1, 2012 10:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, I think they are weighing 2011 REALLY heavily in their rankings and they look a little foolish for it in some areas

Case in point…..

Kemp’s career wRC+ = 126
Cargo’s career wRC+ = 125

Cargo is a year younger and has a little better fielding numbers than Kemp – Kemp has an advantage in that he plays more time in center instead of a corner spot.

There’s a case to be made that Kemp is better than Cargo – 53 spot better? HELL NO!!!

Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 1, 2012 9:47 PM MST up reply actions  

kemp's also a huge national media darling

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 10:52 PM MST up reply actions  

wait, where was....

longoria, bautista, halladay?

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by papality on Mar 1, 2012 10:55 PM MST up reply actions  

This is awesome

Renck tweets

Team giambi bc jason plans to get todd ejected RT @chryspeterson @TroyRenck who will win tomorrow? #teamHelton or #teamGiambi?

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 8:04 PM MST reply actions  

I would love to know

how he’s planning that. Did they get to pick the teams?

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by jrockies on Mar 1, 2012 8:13 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't know.

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 8:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Do I sense some Bieber hating coming up?

Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.

by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 9:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Eh?

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 9:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Giambi

getting Helton ejected for not liking Bieber in an intrasquad game? it could be possible.

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by jrockies on Mar 1, 2012 9:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh. Heh

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by SDcat09 on Mar 1, 2012 9:25 PM MST up reply actions  

I just hope someone films it

for later like I wish I would have filmed the players playing Duck-Duck-Goose while stretching a few years ago and everyone, including EY2, shying away from Helton.

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by jrockies on Mar 1, 2012 9:29 PM MST up reply actions  

I want to see Helton go off like Joe Madden or Jim Leyland

Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.

by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 10:04 PM MST up reply actions  

..

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=16339299&c_id=mlb

Spring Training is here. Let's hope Jim Tracy don't screw it up with matchupzzz. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.

by Roxman4ever on Mar 1, 2012 10:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Stolen Indians

Rockies straight up stole Pomeranz and White for Ubaldo Jimenez. Jimenez is good, but I think it will work out well for Rox.
http://westsideculture.mlblogs.com/2012/02/02/colorado-rockies-spring-training/

by kevinrehberg on Mar 1, 2012 11:30 PM MST reply actions  

For some reason SBNation won't let me respond to papality's comment above so I'm doing so down here.

Longo – #21 (Perhaps the biggest disgrace of the entire list in my eyes)
Bautista – #6
Halladay – #7

I’m just going off memory but I think the top 14 were Matt Kemp, Justin Verlander, Miguel Cabrera, Tulo (/fistpumz), Clayton Kershaw, Jose Bautista, Roy Halladay, Robinson Cano, Joey Votto, Prince Fielder, Albert Pujols, Dustin Pedroia, Jared Weaver, and Adrian Gonzalez.

Although baseball is full of teams suffering setbacks, it’s also full teams overcoming them. All I ask is for the Rockies to be defined by the latter category.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Mar 1, 2012 11:35 PM MST reply actions  

Pedroia over Longoria?

A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves

by waterboy31321 on Mar 2, 2012 7:08 AM MST up reply actions  

scrappy

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by papality on Mar 2, 2012 1:38 PM MST up reply actions  

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