Know Your Foe #38: Disappointments Square Off Again in Coors Field

Aug 15, 2012; Miami, FL, USA; Miami Marlins right fielder Giancarlo Stanton (27) connects for an RBI single during the eighth inning against the Philadelphia Phillies at Marlins Park. Marlins won 9-2. Mandatory Credit: Steve Mitchell-US PRESSWIRE

This week, Michael Jong from the SB Nation Marlins' blog Fish Stripes swapped some Q&A on our respective, disappointing seasons. You can view our side of the Q&A over there!

1. So I guess the big question for you is "what on earth happened?" I'm looking through the team numbers, and there just doesn't seem to be any one particular glaring hole.

In short, almost every player on the Miami Marlins performed below their preseason expectations. The Marlins were expected to do well offensively in 2012, provided Hanley Ramirez just regressed to his mean a little and the rest of the players performed on par. Instead, five of the team's eight regular starters went well below expectations begin the season, with the total costing the Marlins fifty runs through the start of the second half. The players who did play up to expectations did not exceed them enough to make up for it.

Combine that with a late-season collapse of two of the team's starting pitchers and multiple injuries to starting players and you get exactly what happened; the Marlins went from potential contenders to trade deadline sellers. With the team trading two players and injuries taking a few others at various times, the Marlins now look like a decimated team aside from the still-good core.

2. Has this bed been made for 2013 and onward, or is there hope on the horizon?

The previous plan, it seemed, was to allow the Opening 2012 Marlins compete in a three-year window until 2014, at which point most of the club's contracts would have expired and the Marlins could reset their roster around Jose Reyes, Giancarlo Stanton, and Mark Buehrle. At that time, the Fish would have also received help from their productive minor league talent currently at the High-A level. But with the trades made at the deadline, those "reset" plans were shifted forward.

The Marlins did open up significant payroll space with which to tinker in 2013, and the club could make one or two additions if they are interested in moving the payroll back up to $100 million next season. So combine the reinforcements coming in 2014 and the possibility of free agent additions to fill the team's current glaring holes and there is still a chance for fringe contention in 2013, though the odds are going to be lower than they were at Opening Day 2012.

3. Between the deadline and this past offseason, if you could undo one transaction, which would it be?

Most Marlins fans would easily blurt out "Heath Bell contract" to that question, and so would I. The Bell deal was an ugly one before he suffered a collapse this season, and even though he has improved throughout the season, he still is not close to being worth his three-year, $27 million deal. The Marlins were foolish to think signing an aging closer off a bad season was going to be a good idea, and they are currently witnessing the worst-case scenario of that signing.

More past the jump, along with the usual stuff.

4. So Hanley Ramirez is gone. First, can you give us a real quick rundown on the return, and Second, how does it feel to move a guy like Hanley?

I analyzed the return after the trade and found it to be a fair deal. Hanley Ramirez was maybe worth around the value of his contract, so his trade value would have been minimal. In addition, there were definite concerns about his defense at third base after the move to the position, and if the Marlins honestly felt that his performance was not going to be better than league average at the plate with below average defense, the team was right to find value and re-appropriate the money of his contract elsewhere. Nathan Eovaldi was a top 100 pitching by Baseball America heading into the season, and he has performed admirably in the majors despite control struggles. With time and some coaching, he can definitely succeed at the big league level.

How did it feel to trade Ramirez? Depends on who you ask. I honored Ramirez's legacy as a Marlin and was disappointed to see him go, but I understood the baseball aspect of the move. Others who were on Ramirez's case for so-called "attitude" issues were ecstatic to see a player who had become a "clubhouse cancer" be traded; that contingent of fans has been on Ramirez's case since 2010. Hanley Ramirez was a divisive player to the Marlins fan base, but the basic feelings were the two listed above.

5. We'll trade you Tyler Colvin and Guillermo Moscoso for Giancarlo Stanton. Deal?

Throw in Carlos Gonzalez, Troy Tulowitzki, and Wilin Rosario and...nope, still no.

But honestly, I get that question all the time, and the answer is always "no, the Marlins are not trading Giancarlo Stanton." Or, as Jose Reyes puts it:

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Expected Pitching Matchups

Thursday, August 16 @ 6:40PM MT

Ricky Nolasco vs Alex White

Friday, August 17 @ 6:40PM MT

Wade LeBlanc vs Jeff Francis

Saturday, August 18 @ 6:10PM MT

Nathan Eovaldi vs Tyler Chatwood

Sunday, August 19 @ 1:10PM MT

Josh Johnson vs Drew Pomeranz

Rk Pos Age G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB
1 C John Buck 31 88 328 280 20 51 14 0 8 30 0 0 45 88 .182 .299 .318 .617 67 89 7 2 0 1 5
2 1B Gaby Sanchez 28 55 196 183 12 37 10 0 3 17 1 0 12 36 .202 .250 .306 .556 50 56 7 0 0 1 1
3 2B Omar Infante 30 85 347 328 42 94 23 2 8 33 10 1 12 42 .287 .312 .442 .754 101 145 7 1 4 2 0
4 SS Jose Reyes# 29 116 522 467 64 134 26 8 8 31 28 7 48 44 .287 .352 .428 .780 110 200 8 0 5 2 8
5 3B Hanley Ramirez 28 93 395 353 49 87 18 2 14 48 14 4 37 72 .246 .322 .428 .749 101 151 11 3 0 2 1
6 LF Logan Morrison* 24 93 334 296 30 68 15 1 11 36 1 0 31 58 .230 .308 .399 .707 90 118 9 4 0 3 2
7 CF Emilio Bonifacio# 27 61 264 234 28 61 3 4 1 11 30 3 25 50 .261 .335 .321 .655 79 75 3 1 4 0 1
8 RF Giancarlo Stanton 22 88 351 314 50 89 24 0 21 56 5 1 33 90 .283 .356 .561 .917 143 176 3 3 0 1 3
Rk Pos Age G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB
9 UT Greg Dobbs* 33 83 227 213 17 64 6 1 4 29 4 2 8 32 .300 .322 .394 .716 93 84 8 1 0 5 2
10 CF Justin Ruggiano 30 61 198 178 24 58 16 1 10 26 10 7 17 51 .326 .383 .596 .978 160 106 5 0 1 1 0
11 1B Carlos Lee 36 37 150 126 14 35 5 0 1 25 2 0 20 16 .278 .373 .341 .715 96 43 2 1 0 3 1
12 OF Austin Kearns 32 57 136 117 18 29 4 0 4 15 1 1 14 35 .248 .353 .385 .738 100 45 6 5 0 0 1
13 UT Donovan Solano 24 49 134 116 9 30 6 1 0 10 4 0 12 24 .259 .328 .328 .656 79 38 1 1 3 2 1
14 C Brett Hayes 28 39 118 114 7 23 6 0 0 3 1 0 4 49 .202 .229 .254 .483 31 29 1 0 0 0 3
15 OF Bryan Petersen* 26 41 115 101 12 19 3 2 0 8 4 1 12 23 .188 .281 .257 .538 47 26 3 1 1 0 0
16 OF Chris Coghlan* 27 39 105 93 10 13 1 0 1 10 0 2 9 12 .140 .212 .183 .394 8 17 4 0 1 2 1
17 OF Scott Cousins* 27 45 81 77 6 13 4 1 1 3 1 1 2 21 .169 .190 .286 .476 27 22 2 0 2 0 2
18 IF Donnie Murphy 29 33 75 67 7 13 3 1 3 8 1 1 6 17 .194 .267 .403 .670 78 27 2 1 0 1 1
19 OF Gorkys Hernandez 24 13 31 27 5 4 0 0 0 2 1 0 3 8 .148 .233 .148 .381 7 4 0 0 1 0 0
20 IF Nick Green 33 7 24 23 1 4 3 0 0 1 0 0 0 6 .174 .208 .304 .513 37 7 0 1 0 0 0
21 LF Kevin Mattison* 26 3 5 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 .000 .000 .000 .000 -100 0 0 0 0 0 0
22 C Rob Brantly* 22 1 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000 -100 0 0 0 0 0 0
Rk Pos Age G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB
23 P Mark Buehrle* 33 24 53 52 2 3 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 23 .058 .058 .077 .135 -64 4 0 0 1 0 0
24 P Ricky Nolasco 29 23 47 37 2 6 1 0 0 4 0 0 3 17 .162 .225 .189 .414 14 7 0 0 7 0 0
25 P Josh Johnson* 28 24 44 38 2 4 0 0 0 2 0 0 2 25 .105 .150 .105 .255 -29 4 0 0 4 0 0
26 P Carlos Zambrano# 31 26 36 34 3 6 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 8 .176 .176 .265 .441 17 9 2 0 2 0 0
27 P Anibal Sanchez 28 19 35 30 1 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 18 .100 .129 .167 .296 -21 5 0 0 4 0 0
28 P Nathan Eovaldi 22 4 7 7 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 .143 .143 .143 .286 -22 1 0 0 0 0 0
29 P Chad Gaudin 29 32 7 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 .000 .000 .000 .000 -100 0 0 0 0 0 0
30 P Wade LeBlanc* 27 14 6 5 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200 .333 .400 .733 98 2 0 1 0 0 0
31 P Mike Dunn* 27 38 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 -100 0 0 0 0 0 0
32 P Steve Cishek 26 51 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 -100 0 0 0 0 0 0
33 P Brad Hand* 22 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 -100 0 1 0 0 0 0
34 P Dan Jennings* 25 11 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 -100 0 0 0 0 0 0
35 P Ryan Webb 26 45 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000 -100 0 0 0 0 0 0
36 P Chris Hatcher# 27 6 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000 -100 0 0 0 0 0 0
37 P Randy Choate* 36 44 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
38 P Edward Mujica 28 41 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
39 P Heath Bell 34 53 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
40 P Sandy Rosario 26 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Team Totals 28.3 118 4380 3931 436 950 193 25 99 411 118 31 356 878 .242 .307 .379 .686 85 1490 92 26 40 26 33
Rank in 16 NL teams 13 15 14 12 6 11 1 7 11 10 13 14 12 12 13 14 10
Rk Pos Age G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 8/16/2012.

Miami Marlins Injuries

Questionable

Player Injury Type Injury Date
Nick Green other-excused 08/16/2012
Justin Ruggiano oblique 08/16/2012

15-Day

Player Injury Type Injury Date
Logan Morrison knee 07/29/2012
Emilio Bonifacio thumb 08/04/2012
Donnie Murphy hamstring 08/04/2012
Juan Oviedo elbow 07/23/2012

60 Day DL / Out for the season

Player Injury Type Injury Date
Jose Ceda elbow 03/28/2012
Sandy Rosario quadriceps 06/16/2012

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