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The Jennings Dilemma?

[editor's note, by Rox Girl] - bumped from the diaries, OhNoKoolAid brings up a very valid point, as JJ's contract posturing forces us to look at all the scenarios to derive what's in the best interest of the team - Rox Girl

One of this site's biggest strengths, outside of its depth of prospect knowledge and recollection, is its members ability to critically analyze situations associated with roster decision making, while attempting to exhaust all possibilities.  While unfortunately, none of it counts in the "real world," it does make for entertaining debate.  So with that in mind, I believe there is a situation worth looking into more than we already have...

Most of us have acknowledged that this is a pivotal off-season in the Rockies' transformation into a contender, with the 40 man roster crunch, critical players in arbitration, and the need to fill the final gaps in the lineup not handled by the farm system.  To this list, we could soon be adding another major item to the agenda: what to do with a "non-extended" Jason Jennings.

If you're like me, you've probably taken it for granted that Jennings would most likely agree to any reasonable extension, and you found it surprising that Jennings would require serious personal debate before re-upping with the Rockies.  What makes this difficult for Colorado is that adding the players Jennings wants may not be possible until the Rockies are certain what Jennings will take off the books for the next few years.  As some have suggested, Jennings may ultimately be determined to test the open market, or just flee from the "stigma" that is Coors (to be saved for another discussion...)  So what are Colorado's options with Jennings?

First, I should make it clear that my first wish is for Jennings to be here for the foreseeable future, and this is by no means a "Trade Jennings" post, but instead a discussion on what the Rockies could recover should they feel forced to move him.   Just some perspective before going further...

Because we don't know the real intentions of Jennings, we are forced to speculate on several scenarios.  One could be that Jennings is using these comments in the media to get the Rockies attention, to show the owners and front office that the core players would like to see a more aggressive off-season.  He might be leaning towards extension, but wants an assurance from the Monforts and Co. that they will make a better effort to service this club properly.  We all might hope that this might be the reality, but in case t isn't, what are the options available for the Rockies?

One could be to just hang on to Jennings through the 2007 season, waiting to see if the team stays competitive through the deadline, dealing him if they are not, or taking there chances in resigning him should they be more successful than this past season.  Besides the obvious benefit of having Jennings in the rotation another year, the Rockies would also be in line for a couple of draft picks should Jennings decline the Rockies request for arbitration.  There are risks involved for both sides.  For Jennings, pitching in a contract year has its dangers, just ask Mark Mulder.  A devastating arm injury would without an extension with the Rockies could result in the loss of  millions in free agency.  For the Rockies, not only do you risk losing Jennings for "nothing," but should he suffer a down or injury plagued year, it could effect the draft compensation should he leave anyways.  For the Rockies to take this route, it would require confidence that they are not only fielding a team they feel will be successful, but possible assurances that Jennings would likely re-sign after the season should they meet his request for a more competitive roster.

The other obvious option is the trade route, and should Jennings not opt for an extension or show signs of agreeing to one, I find this route the more attractive of the two for a few reasons.  First, realize that Jennings would likely be one of the hottest commodities should the Rockies deem him available.  Not only is he young, durable, and healthy, his numbers took a serious turn for the better this season, and while he might not have achieved just media acclaim, you can be sure that general managers around the league did take notice.  With the dearth of solid pitching options available in free agency this year, Jennings might be sold for higher than face value, and considering the Rockies desire for an all-star bat, preferably one that plays center, this could still turn into a good thing.

In my opinion, should Jennings be made available, I would prefer not to trade him for a high salary or soon-to-be high salary player like Vernon Wells.  While he's the most attractive center field name on the market, with Jennings as a trading chip, you could probably target a major league ready prospect, keeping the roster expenses low and allowing some of the money to be used to cover Jennings contract go to arbitration eligible players or niche free agents.  The first teams I would call would be the New York Mets and the Chicago Cubs.  The cubs might be tougher to deal with than New York.  With Pierre out of the picture, it could be Pie's job to lose in Wrigley, and the Cubs might not be so eager to part with him.  If management in Chicago, however, decides to supplement their new manager with veteran players, Pie could become "expendable" if he's blocked by an acquisition.  He represents a cost effective alternative to centerfield with potential to bring a high reward for the cost.

The ideal trade, however, would be for Lastings Milledge from the Mets.  It's unclear if Milledge was actually available for Zito at the deadline, but it's worth looking into with Jennings.  With the media's cry for a better pitching staff in New York, Jennings could be justified by the front office for his youth, prospective price tag, and success in what is deemed a "hostile environment" at Coors.  His durability for a fragile Mets rotation would also be a major plus.  As for Milledge, if Beane did in fact want him, he's probably pretty good, and his numbers bear this out themselves.  He's a more natural centerfielder and could be a Mike Cameron-type at Coors, which, for the years of control the Rockies would have on him, would be a major bargain.  If you wanted to get really creative, add Brad Hawpe to the deal in hopes of getting Aaron Heilman thrown in as well.  Heilman has the numbers to be a very good starter, and could balance the loss of Jennings in the rotation.  Hawpe isn't necessarily expendable, since Baker's BABIP inflated September performance could be a bit flukish, but with Smith and Stewart a step away from the bigs, reinforcements aren't far away.

Straying away from prospects, the next best target would be Rocco Baldelli.  Malakian has pointed out that the Rays might be in the market for pitching, and willing to deal from their outfield excesses, and Jennings would probably be the best big league name offered to them.  What I like about Baldelli is that his numbers not only are improving year after year, and his defense is gold glove caliber, but he has a long term contract already laid out, negotiated by himself, with reasonable bonus clauses and base salaries, and you can see it here courtesy of Cot's Baseball contracts:

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/tampa-bay-devil-rays_112131227267025321.html

His best years are ahead of him, and the Rockies can control him under this contract until 2011.  What makes this more attractive is the amount of buyouts and options back loaded on the contract, giving the Rockies an escape if he underperforms and Fowler proves ready to handle the bigs in the next few years.  This might require a one-for-one swap, or even a prospect from our side, but little money is added to the payroll, when you consider what an extension to Jennings would cost.

So here are just a few ideas to get the ball rolling, and these can even be debated into refutation.  Another concern might be who we acquire or rely on to replace Jennings, and I have a few ideas on that, but will let this develop a bit more.

Eat. Drink. Be Merry. But the above FanPost does not necessarily reflect the attitudes, opinions, or views of Purple Row's staff (unless, of course, it's written by the staff [and even then, it still might not]).

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Lastings Milledge - good choice
This to me would be an ideal place to start, since Milledge is talented and ready but undervalued after a disappointing rookie season, blocked by Carlos Beltran in New York, and since the Mets are desperate for pitching help. A columnist in the New York Post today said that he'd like to see the Mets try trading Milledge and Aaron Heilman for Dontrelle Willis (keep dreaming), Erik Bedard(maybe, if Peter Angelos would get his head out of his ass) or Jake Peavy (not going to happen). Jennings is better than Bedard, and would be a better fit for this kind of deal. I don't see our FO pulling the trigger on the move, but it could help our team a lot, with Heilman moving into the rotation and Milledge into the hole in center, we would just have to focus on acquiring more pitching at that point.

by Rox Girl on Oct 21, 2006 7:29 AM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To add to this
the Mets might be vulnerable and under tough scrutiny from the media to impove its pitching and add quality veterans.  They might like to keep Milledge and start him in left or right, and that's why I would add Brad Hawpe and maybe C level pitching prospect to get Heilman as well.  Hawpe would be a better current alternative to Milledge, Floyd, or Green, so maybe they would be the ones adding to the deal at that point.  But adding two cheap quality players, one with superstar potential and the other with number 2-3 potential, for players whose cheap years are close to running out would register as a saavy move in my book.

by David "ohno" on Oct 21, 2006 8:22 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A thing to remember about the Mets
Cliff Floyd is done....Milledge is currently on schedule to take his spot on the team next year.  Not only that, but the lack of RH hitters hurt the Mets this off-season.  I don't see them trading him away.

Also note, that they have both Philip Humber and Mike Pelfrey ready in Spring Training to compete for 1 if not 2 rotation spots next year.  

I think they'll sooner sign someone on the free agent market then they would make a trade like that.  But that's just my two cents.....

by sg8335aa on Oct 21, 2006 10:27 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fair point
Humber's checkered injury history may give them pause, but Pelfrey's more than ready, and they may also have to look into the health of Orlando Hernandez and Pedro Martinez, who did undergo, or was scheduled to, surgery.  The thing about the Mets too is that needs could change based on who they pursue in free agency.  If they were to target a big veteran bat, than Milledge might become available, but not only would that probably require too much time for the Rockies to wait around on other options, but highly speculative as well.

So while it's worth checking into, the Mets might be out.

I think the Cubs would balk at trading Pie too, but it's worth asking.

Anybody like Baldelli for Jennings?  Rocco's VORP of 33.8 in just 387 ABs would rank 3rd on the Rockies hitter's list, and with a full season of ABs, his VORP might approach Atkins and Holliday territory.  He might be the best centerfielder nobody talks about, as his VORP rank of CFs is 8th, but his VORPr (per game basis) is fourth.  Add in his defensive skills, age and maturation, is he a top three centerfielder?  Is he still available.  I love the contract, by the way, very accomodating.

What other avenues do you guys suggest?

by David "ohno" on Oct 21, 2006 11:00 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love Baldelli
But I think the Rays will ask a princely sum in return for him, probably JJ plus Morales plus a top hitter. If the asking price would cost us too much to replace (a top pitcher plus a hitter) then I'd rather go for someone like Wells and try to sign him to an extension. I think Crawford would be a little cheaper but less likely to play center.

by Rox Girl on Oct 21, 2006 11:23 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's true but
they need takers for that asking price or it will most assuredly go down.  With Longoria, Guzman, and Brignac banging on the door, they're going to have to decide what to do with Crawford, Upton, or Baldelli, with one likely to leave.  Frankly, I'd take either of Crawford would be willing to play centerfield.

I'd offer Jennings first, and if I had to, would throw in a guy like Chris Nelson, and at the end of the day, if another team can offer a better young front line pitcher and prospect, so be it, but a Jennings for Baldelli swap could be possible if enough teams balk at the asking price.

by David "ohno" on Oct 21, 2006 4:39 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What does Baldelli's injury history look like?
You make very good arguments about his steady improvement, but didn't he get hurt a couple of times (once seriously) when he was in the minors?  Just wondering.

by Prospector on Oct 21, 2006 9:51 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It isn't as long as the Bengals' police blotter
but it is close, and that is a major concern, and subsequently, a bargaining chip in driving his price down.  He's been dinged for most of his major league career, and missed about a year and a half with a major injury playing pick up football (can't recall off the top of my head if it was achilles or ACL, but I can get that) and many scouts and analysts wonder if this would effect his speed and playing style coming back next season, but it appeared to have very little effect on his game, and the last half of last season might have been his best ball to date.  

Because his contract is full of year-to-year options and bonus clauses related to playing time, the team has several outs should his injury history continue to be an issue.  Obviously, you wouldn't want to deal Jennings and have Baldelli become a shell of his potential, but at the minimum, the team wouldn't be set back financially should it have to cut it's losses in an option or buyout year.  

At this point, he looks healthy and as good as he's been in the league so far, but the injury history is more of a concern with him than most players.

by David "ohno" on Oct 22, 2006 10:20 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I disagree... somewhat.
From today's New York Daily News:
Milledge originally had been projected as the '07 starting left fielder succeeding Floyd, but regarding the possibility of starting a young corner outfielder next season, Minaya said yesterday: "I can't tell you I'm comfortable with that today. But I'm going to tell you when we get to spring training we will evaluate that, based upon the kind of players we acquire this winter. ... It's going to be about where his development is.

"I thought Lastings, for a young kid, handled major-league pitching as best as a young kid can handle it, remembering this kid was in A-ball last year, remembering that he wasn't playing every day. It's hard for a young kid to perform when he doesn't play every day and he's 21 years old. We brought him in there because of necessity. We gave him a chance. He had some rough edges as far as the outfield. He had some rough edges as far as understanding preparation, understanding major-league lifestyle."

It sounds like they aren't set at all at putting Milledge into that slot, and it depends on whether they can pick up somebody who'd help them now. The article also mentioned the package of Heilman/Milledge for Oswalt, so I agree that we'd probably need to add a piece besides JJ to make it happen, but it's definitely something to keep in mind. Now I do agree that this move his highly unlikely, because obviously the Mets would love to get their hands on Matt Holliday to fill that hole in left and a lack of right handed hitting in their lineup, so what they ask from us will be far different from what we'd be willing to offer, but I think we should explore the option nonetheless.

by Rox Girl on Oct 21, 2006 11:33 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One other point
As Tracy Ringolsby points out this morning, the compensation of draft picks for free agents is set to be eliminated with the new collective bargaining agreement. This means that the imperative will be on teams to get value for their potential FA's while they can if they don't feel they have a chance to re-sign them.

by Rox Girl on Oct 21, 2006 7:41 AM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now we won't
see three or four (insert team name) picks before the Rockies get to their second one.

by Russ on Oct 21, 2006 8:05 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dealing to mets
i think it would be a mistake to deal with the mets due to the fact they will more than likely win thier division next year. that whole division should be pretty tight race considering the braves, phillies, and marlins made great leaps over the course of the year. and id expect them to get better. tampa bay would be the safer deal in my opinion. id hate for the FO to deal some of our best chips to the mets and then have 07 rockies meet the mets in the NLDS and lose the series. theres a great chance for them to play them if win the divison or wildcard. my only  problem with tampa bay is they might be more interested in moving Elijah Dukes. he has gotten himself in some trouble a time or two with the team and the law. he be a solid pick up through trade and i dont think we'd need jennings, hawpe,or holiday to use as trade pieces. with Dukes the FO could look to shipping a MLB ready minor league pitcher since there maybe some risk in haveing dukes on the roster.

by jaxROXdisciple on Oct 21, 2006 12:06 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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