Wishful Thinking: NL players fans secretly wish they didn't have, Part One.
There are players we all know are terrible, and any of us would cringe were we forced to swallow the acquisition of a Russ Ortiz or Josh Fogg, but this post is going to focus on a different kind of horror, the player that some of our compatriot fans, or perhaps even we ourselves like, but probably shouldn't. Every team has at least one of these guys; the Rockies and many other teams probably have a couple: players that the hometown faithful has unreasonable expectations for in the coming season that the rest of the league know to be terrible. That's not to say that none of the following will pan out, or that they'll all be flops, but achtung, my friends, achtung. For each, I'll provide a link to a page of unfounded optimism. Proceed with extreme caution:
Arizona: Livan Hernandez gets my vote for the D-backs, and the reason D-backs fans like him is one of the most common reasons to overestimate a player's value: performing well in a small sample the year prior (see me with Kaz Matsui)
Atlanta: Kyle Davies and Mike Hampton. As Tom at Coors Effect recently put it in his Atlanta preview:
Youth in this case doesn't translate to promise for Davies. His ceiling at this point seems to be a Jeff Suppan type, but it's more likely he'll fall short of that. I think the Braves would be wise to look for an alternative.
Chicago Cubs: Mark DeRosa. One of the flurry of moves made by the Cubs this offseason, DeRosa probably stole too much of Alfonso Soriano's spotlight. Considering that Chicago has to play the Pirates fifteen times this season, maybe it's not as bad as I'm making it out to be, but DeRosa shouldn't be a primary option versus RHP's with a career OPS of .682 against them. Given how he came back to earth in the second half after a flukishly strong early 2006, I see him as $13 million/3 years utility player.
Cincinnati: There are lots of candidates here, Alex Gonzalez is too easy. Whoever they get to close, or pick as their fourth and fifth starters also, too easy. I could go on. But I'll take a slightly less obvious Scott Hatteberg. This one's a little bit different as Hattberg has a lot of fans outside of Cincinnati and most Reds fans seem to have realistic expectations for what he'll bring to them. The problem is that what he'll bring isn't nearly enough. Let me put it in perspective, here are the other NL Central starting first basemen with their ZiPS projected OPS:
Prince Fielder .871
Adam LaRoche .871
Lance Berkman .972
Derrek Lee .950
Hatteberg projects to have an OPS in the lower end of the range between .750 and .800 this season, which isn't going to help the team gain any ground in this division unless they're making up for it with production up the middle. Unfortunately, they're not. That Hatteberg is going to be taking AB's away from promising Joey Votto is what seals the deal in making me pick him.
Colorado: Kaz Matsui. I mean, I know I'm hoping he keeps up his .345/.392/.504 production for us from late last year...
Florida: Miguel Olivo. The link suggests he's going to be the fifth best catcher in the NL this year for fantasy purposes. I would strongly dissuade people from following that advice. Very Strongly.
Houston: I could go with Brad Ausmus, but most intelligent Astros fans will wisely distance themselves from whoever wrote that linked piece of cretinism that ranks Houston second among NL catchers. Adam Everett is tempting to pick as well. Really any time a player's defense is used to justify shortcomings at the plate it's a warning signal for him being overrated. Wandy Rodriguez might be a decent choice, but most Astros fans seem to be as leery of him as I am. So instead I'll go one step up the ladder in the rotation and pick Woody Williams, who's going to be 40 this year, and has had his IP show the following trend the last four seasons:
- 189.7
- 159.7
- 145.3
Los Angeles I'll close out part one with the Dodgers. I think Juan Pierre's too easy, but perhaps so too is Luis Gonzalez. True Blue LA and other more thoughtful Dodger sites realize what a waste of $7.5 million this signing was, but as the link shows, there is a contingent that doesn't see it that way.
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I love the premise here
In a year or two, Atlanta's selection could very well be Francoeur. He's got youth behind him, but if he makes no strides in patience, he becomes an overglorified Juan Encarnacion. He's used his "Get out of jail free card" for his career. another season like last and he'll drive a wedge between Braves fans.
by David "ohno" on Jan 26, 2007 3:46 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Matsui?
by Rox Fan in TN on Jan 26, 2007 4:40 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Like I said, in the first paragraph,
Barmes, Fogg and Martin are in the category of most Rockies fans know they're bad already anyway, although I guess there are still a few Barmes acolytes out there, but they have to be dwindling.
Sullivan probably would have been our representative for this last season, but seeing as he's likely to lose his starting post, I didn't put him in either.
by Rox Girl on Jan 26, 2007 4:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd vote Carroll...
by DenverBears on Jan 27, 2007 5:52 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly, I'm holding out the same hope
by Rox Girl on Jan 27, 2007 6:30 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess we are thinking the same thing...
by DenverBears on Jan 28, 2007 7:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I look at it in this dialogue
Then you, despite deep inner doubt, respond with, "What's wrong with him? You do know that for the month of... he was one of the best at his position. You might be surprised with what he can do..."
"Sure, sure, well at least you're satisfied, he's the last player I'd want on my team."
Basically, the casual or moderately informed fan couldn't give two cents about Jamey Carroll, but they DO know that Matsui was a complete bust in New York.
Barmes doesn't work either, as the average Rockies fans would concur with how awful that situation is. I'd think the majority of Rockies fans hold some type of hope for Matsui, while the vast majority of basebal fans do not.
I think the player has to have some type of notoriety to fit the profile here, but I might be looking too much into it.
by David "ohno" on Jan 28, 2007 8:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Helton to the Red Sox?
As far as I can tell.....this is as advanced as we have ever seen a Helton trade rumor considering Helton's involvement himself.
No word on the names involved (though it will directly relate to how much salary the Rockies eat). Craig Hansen and Manny Delcarmen were both mentioned in the article.
by sg8335aa on Jan 27, 2007 6:23 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
I'm making a front page post right now
by Rox Girl on Jan 27, 2007 6:31 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Matsui? *Sticks Fingers in Ears*
Sticks Fingers in Ears.....LALALALALLALLLA
I CAN'T HEAR YOU!
LALALALALALAL
by Redhawk on Jan 27, 2007 8:47 AM MST reply actions 0 recs






















