Hours Later and It's Still True . . .
The Rockies are going to the playoffs!
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Is it okay...
Because Deadspin says Phillies in five because of their "dramatically better" hitting, and I'm calling no respect. I thought not making ignorant statements like these with no basis in fact was what made Deadspin better than ESPN, right? So much for that.
by potterhead4 on
Oct 2, 2007 11:32 AM MDT
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I'm still waiting
Maybe Deadspin is going with the "MVP argument." The Phillies have three possible candidates and the Rockies have one? 3 > 1. That's the only way "dramatically better" hitting could apply. In some odd, convoluted way, that is.
by Russ on
Oct 2, 2007 11:37 AM MDT
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Where my team stands: Colorado Rockies
by potterhead4 on
Oct 2, 2007 11:48 AM MDT
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Will Leitch is too busy obsessing over the plate
by Onebaseman on
Oct 2, 2007 12:51 PM MDT
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I think you guys misunderstand what I wrote
by Russ on
Oct 2, 2007 12:53 PM MDT
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No, I got it
"Maybe Deadspin is going with the "MVP argument." The Phillies have three possible candidates and the Rockies have one? 3 > 1. That's the only way "dramatically better" hitting could apply. In some odd, convoluted way, that is."
by potterhead4 on
Oct 2, 2007 12:56 PM MDT
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Ah, okay.
by Onebaseman on
Oct 2, 2007 12:59 PM MDT
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glad he asked you and not me
by Rox Girl on
Oct 3, 2007 5:27 AM MDT
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Predictions don't matter
I read somewhere that the Rocks will lose because they aren't a good enough road team. But they outscored their opponents on the road, and except for the 1-9 trip have been pretty good.
Rox had the number one run differential in the NL. Rox pitching seems to be better than the Phils. Offensively, their OBP is about the same. Philly slugs better, but that may be due to their home park.
Both teams are on a great roll, so both should feel confident going in.
I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy it (if having 50 heart attacks during each game qualifies as enjoyment), and root root root for the home team.
Go Rockies!!!!
by jlikesrockies on
Oct 2, 2007 12:04 PM MDT
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Press conference at 3pm MST
by avsfan4ever33 on
Oct 2, 2007 12:52 PM MDT
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Phillies playoff roster released
Lineup:
Ruiz
Howard
Utley
Rollins
Dobbs
Burrell
Rowand
Victorino
Bench:
Barajas
Coste
Iguchi
Nunez
Helms
Bourne
Werth
Rotation:
Hamels
Kendrick
Lohse
Moyer
Bullpen:
Myers
Gordon
Romero
Condrey
Mesa
Alfonseca
Geoff Geary was left off the roster due to injury. Carlos Ruiz is also battling an elbow injury.
Bolded for hilarity.
by malakian on
Oct 2, 2007 12:59 PM MDT
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Just curious
by SlamDunkTheFunk on
Oct 2, 2007 1:17 PM MDT
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Adam Eaton
1st round playoff rosters are not finalized until 10 AM on Wednesday so the Phils can still make changes between now and then.
by sg8335aa on
Oct 2, 2007 2:08 PM MDT
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Jorge Julio
by badnooz on
Oct 2, 2007 1:24 PM MDT
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I just love
by Silverblood on
Oct 2, 2007 1:40 PM MDT
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It could be worse.
by Rox Fan in TN on
Oct 2, 2007 1:42 PM MDT
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who took that video?
by LarryB303 on
Oct 2, 2007 2:24 PM MDT
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Your sig made me laugh
by SlamDunkTheFunk on
Oct 2, 2007 2:53 PM MDT
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I took that video
We had actually been sitting in 315 until the middle of the 13th. My buddy wanted to leave and I wanted to see it closer. So we went down to the lower level.
After the two doubles and the triple, the usher was just standing there cheering and clapping her hand against her inflatable purple bat. So we went all the way down.
Just in time for the best ending in Denver Sports History. (and I'm a Broncos fan, so that's saying something)
by amalgam on
Oct 8, 2007 11:34 AM MDT
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A taste of what last night was like..
- Walking to the park, we passed a cab driver. He was driving a purple cab and told me, in heavily accented English, that the Rockies would win because of his purple taxi.
- The chants of MVP! were the single loudest thing I've ever heard at Coors. It was spine-tingling.
- A few aborted attempts at The Wave were met with scorn.
- Heath Bell is fat. But good.
- The playoff bunting was a beautiful sight to see. They had it up over the weekend, but it didn't seem official until last night.
- The person who runs the stuff that goes over the PA -- bits of organ music, chant starters, etc. -- did a really great job. He or she kept the crowd going all night, even when we were exhausted. And it was never intrusive. Just right.
- The guy who participated in that "you have 25 seconds to replace 2nd base and get to the dugout" contest was really, really slow. he didn't make it in time and the crowd booed him lustily. We were in no mood for failure of any kind.
- I was in the Pavillion, about 15 rows behind Holliday. When the fireworks went off, they were directly above us. I felt like I was in that final scene in The natural.
- Walking out, I saw hundreds of people with hands raised looking for high fives. My palm hurt by the time we exited.
- Outside, on Blake, cars were honking their horns - DA DA DA -- to which the walking throngs responded by chanting M V P, M V P
- My 11 year old son converted his cap to create his first ever rally cap. he didn't take it off from the 9th inning until the end of the game. As i write this, he still hasn't taken off his Helton jersey he wore to the game.
- I'm ready right now to go back to Coors. Saturday can't come soon enough.
by BroJB on
Oct 2, 2007 3:11 PM MDT
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I was so glad to hear
And man, you're making me want to find a cheap flight and head home for the weekend. WHY do I have to be in NY? WHY?
by Silverblood on
Oct 2, 2007 3:16 PM MDT
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Dude...
by MattTheRock on
Oct 2, 2007 3:28 PM MDT
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Yes...
- At the end, I noticed about six or seven Rockies over by the dugout, dancing in circles with their arms around each other.
- Tulo was dead serious in his post-game interview: we have work to do.
- The crowd must have spent half the game on their feet.
- the MVP chant was truly spine-chilling. Coolest thing ever.
- Those Tu-Lo! chants were cool, too.
- Matt was either woozy or crying when they showed him in the clubhouse hugging the boys. It was cute.
- according to my Dad, Matt also gave the most incoherent interview ever. Aww...
- Rocky Mountain News has some great pics today.
- I haven't stopped smiling since. Oh my god. The Rox are going to do this. I'm so excited!!!!
by Squeaky on
Oct 2, 2007 3:50 PM MDT
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Sec 153
And one other memory -- my son now has a new favorite phrse, which he unfortunately picked up last night from dad.
The kids been walking around the house yelling "JULIO, YOU SUCK!"
Nice role model I am.
by BroJB on
Oct 2, 2007 4:32 PM MDT
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Are we just happy to be here?
by rox in october on
Oct 2, 2007 3:11 PM MDT
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yeah that's the thing
by LarryB303 on
Oct 2, 2007 3:19 PM MDT
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Mark Redman
by Blake20th on
Oct 2, 2007 3:23 PM MDT
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Starters
by BroJB on
Oct 2, 2007 3:25 PM MDT
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That works for me
by Blake20th on
Oct 2, 2007 3:32 PM MDT
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I have full confidence in
by David OhNo on
Oct 2, 2007 3:45 PM MDT
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That's what I heard from Buck Martinez
Correct me if I'm worng, but we only have two injury exmption spots for the playoff roster right?
Since Morales was sent down prior to the cut off day, he would need one, and if they wanted Speier, he'd need one too. So that would make it tough to get Seth Smith on the playoff roster.
And if I'm wrong and it's quite easy to put Smith on it, I would lean towards keeping both Stewart and Smith over Baker. The Phillies only have J.C. Romero as a lefty in that pen, and thanks to our normal lineup pattern, there's typically two righties in front of the pitcher's spot (assuming Taveras gets healthy or Spillborghs is the primary starter), making it tougher to conserve that lefty specialist for a pinch hitter with Helton and Hawpe in the interior part of the order.
If match-ups and splits are key, then I'd rather have the two lefty hitters than one lefty and one righty, when you consider that Iannetta and Carroll will already be on that bench as righties.
by David OhNo on
Oct 2, 2007 3:41 PM MDT
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Morales
If you were not on the 40 man roster by September 1st.....THEN you need the exemption.
by sg8335aa on
Oct 2, 2007 4:03 PM MDT
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25, or 40?
I thought that it was for the 25 man roster but I might be wrong.
by MADness on
Oct 2, 2007 6:44 PM MDT
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New Denver Post article
It looks like they're going with a 12-man pitching staff.
It looks like Julio is on the roster. Stewart and Taveras also will not be included (sent to instructs).
Torrealba
Helton
Matsui
Tulo
Atkins
Holliday
Spilborghs
Hawpe
Iannetta
Carroll
Sullivan
Two of Baker/Smith/Koshansky/Barmes/Quintanilla
Francis
Morales
Jimenez
Fogg
Corpas
Fuentes
Hawkins
Herges
Affeldt
Buchholz
Speier
Julio
I hope Patrick Saunders is mistaken about this.
by malakian on
Oct 2, 2007 3:54 PM MDT
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The article isn't very clear.
by malakian on
Oct 2, 2007 3:56 PM MDT
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In fairness...
by Franchise26 on
Oct 2, 2007 3:56 PM MDT
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Check that
by Franchise26 on
Oct 2, 2007 3:58 PM MDT
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The article is kind of vague.
by malakian on
Oct 2, 2007 4:07 PM MDT
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I actually don't hate this...
In the playoffs, you have to have a quick hook. This could be a pretty high scoring series. We're gonna need guys who can chew up innings. If we've got an 8-man pen full of one-inning guys, it's a waste. But having Buchholz, Herges, and Redman as capable innings eaters (and having one of them be a lefty, which won't hurt against Howard and Utley) isn't so bad.
Just as long as one of them isn't pinch-hitting in the ninth inning of a one-run game at any point, I think I'm alright with this.
by Franchise26 on
Oct 2, 2007 4:01 PM MDT
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Cook....
We DON'T know how those guys will handle the playoffs (hell we dont' even know about Francis). If 1-2 guys choke and have to leave after the 2nd or 3rd inning, we're gonna need those starters.
Without a playoff rotation of Francis, Cook, Lopez and 1 spot between Jimenez/Morales/Hirsh/Fogg........we're forced into this move.
I don't really like it either.....but its a huge risk when you consider the inexperience of our staff.
by sg8335aa on
Oct 2, 2007 4:06 PM MDT
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However on the flip side
It's a matter of personal preference, but I'd rather have a roster geared at attacking the opponent's weakness rather than building one on worse case scenario. If you're already heading down that track, you aren't likely to recover anyways.
by David OhNo on
Oct 2, 2007 4:26 PM MDT
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Congratulations!!!!!!!
Go Broncos!!!!!!
by kornkidx on
Oct 2, 2007 4:24 PM MDT
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It's Rock-tober in Colorado!
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/sports/article/0,1299,DRMN_2_5712873,00.html
by Franchise26 on
Oct 2, 2007 4:35 PM MDT
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Bad News, Good News...
Boras is at it already...
The good:
I'll be at Game 3 on Saturday, thanks to a buddy in Denver that got tickets. Frequent travel pays off, as I was able to use frequent flier miles in lieu of the $1260 fare!
I can't wait. This will be my first professional post-season game of any sort.
by Gumbo on
Oct 2, 2007 5:34 PM MDT
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WHA?
Wait.
Wait. Hold on. Did that say 20 million A YEAR?
Holy shit. It did. Scott Boras must have testicles the size of Jupiter to make that his initial offer.
At this rate, when he becomes a free agent in two years, Boras will set the bidding for Matt Holliday at 'eleventy billion dollars'. Per year.
by Franchise26 on
Oct 2, 2007 5:39 PM MDT
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Holliday
by Lord Manhammer on
Oct 2, 2007 7:32 PM MDT
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Just last off season
I see 20 million per year for Holliday at the minimum
by Redhawk on
Oct 2, 2007 9:54 PM MDT
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Also
by arosenthal on
Oct 2, 2007 11:45 PM MDT
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Not a Boras client
I could be wrong (or outdated) on this, but one rumored reason for trading Taveras was that he had retained Boras.
It's an interesting dynamic: do mid-market teams like the Astros & Rox shoot themselves in the foot by not dealing with Boras, thereby withdrawing from some key free agent bidding? Do some players actually hurt their signing prospects by retaining Boras & thereby being off-limits to Boras-hating teams?
For what it's worth, I think the proper approach to deal with Boras is clients is negotiate regarding players on your roster you need to retain, but stay away from Boras free agents off other teams.
The Andruw Jones situation will be interesting to watch. What Beltran did for Boras' reputation (he gets top dollar for his clients), Jones may un-do. What Jones ultimately gets may be so far under the ridiculous $20 mil asking price that the "Boras factor" may be perceived as a negative rather than a positive.
The Braves & Schuerholz are about as good as anyone at talent/value analysis. That they're passing on a longtime player should set off warning signs to other teams: Jones isn't worth anything close to $20 mil. He wasn't worth $13.5 mil this year. His low average and high strikeout totals suggest he should really get a salary cut. If there's any rationality to the free agent market at all (there may not be), that will happen.
by strosnrocks on
Oct 3, 2007 10:44 AM MDT
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