Monday Morning Rockpile:
Josh Beckett. He is the hottest pitcher in the world. In his postseason career, he has a 1.78 ERA. Of pitchers with at least eight career postseason starts, only Christy Mathewson and George Earnshaw, neither of whom has pitched in the last 70 years, have a lower ERA than Beckett. In this postseason, he has been dominant. He has thrown 297 pitches, 210 for strikes, in three starts. The Indians had no chance against him in two starts in the ALCS.
Tim Kurkjian goes on to say that this god Beckett might start three games against the Rockies, the presumption being that he'll win all three. Sound familiar?
"...in the NLCS, nobody comes close to Webb."
"Other than Brandon Webb, there are no elite starters..."
Does this story ever change? When does Jeff Francis evolve from quaint Canuck into a legit big game ace? Jeffrey Franchise is now 2-0 in the postseason with a 2.13 ERA, and while not quite Beckett's 5-2 with a 1.78, the guess here is that all it should take is a victory in Game One for Francis to become media's new poster-boy.
Alright. Next vent. Let's say you are trying to compare a group of hitters to determine who was best, and over about 450 PA's you had three tiers:
Group A: Let's just call them ALl Stars -are maybe five guys hitting really well, and that's who everybody pays attention to.
Group B: Next Level, these guys are okay, but flawed and clearly a step below the cream of the crop.
Group C: Well, not actually a group -one guy really- let's name him Charlie Rose because I really dig PBS. Anyway, Charlie at this 450 PA mark is probably at the bottom of the Next Level group, but still in it.
So I've made it obvious what the set-up is. The ALl Stars continue to play pretty well over their next few PA's, the Next Level guys continue to do their step below thing, but Charlie goes off the hook. Completely destroying everything in his path. Mysteriously, after about 525 PA's all but eight of these guys from all three groups get injured and their seasons are over. Charlie's one of the eight still playing, and he's still raking. Sure a few of his hits are of the bloop single variety, but his streak is really becoming DiMaggio-esque. Four more teams get season ending injuries a few PA's later. Then two more go down and suddenly it's just Charlie and one other guy from the ALl Star group, let's just call him BIG RED SLUGGER. And his name is always capitalized like that in all the papers for some reason. BRS has been able to put up some more gaudy numbers the last few games, and still looks on paper to be the better hitter overall, even though Charlie's been gaining and is clearly now better than all of the Next Level guys. Would you ignore these last 100 PA's and go back to before Charlie's streak to judge these players? Would you go back to where the others' seasons ended? Or would you take the whole enchilada preferring to get as many data points as possible for any of these guys?
So let's say the whole season for these two players' teams comes down to one final game between the two. Winner gets into the playoffs. Charlie goes four for four with a homerun or two, his team wins while BIG RED SLUGGER goes zero for four with four K's in the losing effort. BRS's season stats might still be a tad better than Charlie's even after all that. Do you still say that BIG RED SLUGGER is the MVP? What if both end up having great games and Charlie's team wins? What if they lose? Is Charlie good enough to be considered worthy of the ALl Stars' status?
I bring this up because you and I will read a lot of NL as junior varsity articles over the coming days. A lot of pundits and non-pundits alike will try to downplay and even toss aside the team's accomplishments this year and that irks me. Joe Sheehan in a chat at Baseball Prospectus the other day said that he could still argue that Detroit and Seattle (88-74, outscored 794-813, Colorado's now 97-73, outscoring the opposition 894-774) are better teams than the Rockies. Even Meredith Veira on the Today Show apparently:
That from an e-mail from Sandra Elkind. Thanks Sandra for pointing it out.
I just want the team to be given a fair look. The AL's better than the NL, fine. Point taken. Colorado's better than the NL, too, though and don't you forget it. What's sad is I don't think even a four game sweep will change anybody's opinion about us, as once again they will point to how the Red Sox just got unlucky, how it was mysterious that their lineup of sluggers was suddenly unable to hit against the Rockies' inferior pitching. Don't get me wrong, I think Boston's still had the clearly superior season, (outscored their opponents 937 to 693 so far) but Seattle and Detroit? Come on. Maybe when we win again in 2008 will these people finally recognize that maybe we actually do have a good team in Colorado.
Good luck getting tix everybody!
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As always
Rockies chance to win WS: 56.3%
Red Sox chance to win WS: 43.7%
https://baseballprospectus.com/statistics/postseasonodds.php
by Rox n Sox on Oct 22, 2007 9:56 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Favorites
My simulator is only giving the Red Sox approximately a 52% win probability in Game #1, while Vegas and Log5 are giving the Red Sox a Game #1 win probability of around 65%.
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Oct 22, 2007 2:39 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
left handers in Fenway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenway_Park
ICKIMORE
by Ickimore on Oct 25, 2007 4:14 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dear God
by MattTheRock on Oct 22, 2007 10:06 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Fairness to Rockies Fans = King Soopers Outlets
by DakotaBoy on Oct 22, 2007 1:17 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
There has to be a better way than this.
by DomCasual on Oct 22, 2007 10:18 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I've gotten a few "please hold" messages
by BroJB on Oct 22, 2007 10:20 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I just got my first one of those!
Onward, ever onward!
by DomCasual on Oct 22, 2007 10:22 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Countdown page
This is no bueno..
by DiscoStu on Oct 22, 2007 10:21 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Got the countdown page once...
by free7694 on Oct 22, 2007 10:24 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
same with me...
by Rox Girl on Oct 22, 2007 10:28 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hold Sign
by BroJB on Oct 22, 2007 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
My wife got tickets though, already
We're trying to land some for friends now.
by comedian on Oct 22, 2007 10:30 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
My wife...
by DomCasual on Oct 22, 2007 10:34 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, seriously
by potterhead4 on Oct 22, 2007 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That means...
by DomCasual on Oct 22, 2007 10:26 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
But...
by free7694 on Oct 22, 2007 10:27 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Gotta be sold out by now, I would think
by comedian on Oct 22, 2007 10:32 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Server's definitely choking less.
by potterhead4 on Oct 22, 2007 10:33 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Still nothing
by fatheadX on Oct 22, 2007 10:34 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Nothing on the home page
by free7694 on Oct 22, 2007 10:36 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
1 person I know got 4 to monday...
by psprowls on Oct 22, 2007 10:36 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
How long ago was this?
by free7694 on Oct 22, 2007 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
all right countdown
by roxfan4life on Oct 22, 2007 10:39 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
9 News
by Rox n Sox on Oct 22, 2007 10:40 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
The Rockies are lying.
by free7694 on Oct 22, 2007 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Kidding
A spokesperson has insisted that the only people having problems with the system are folks who were blocked for trying to hack into the system. So arrogant.
by Rox n Sox on Oct 22, 2007 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not hacking
by free7694 on Oct 22, 2007 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever
by potterhead4 on Oct 22, 2007 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
One would hope
by comedian on Oct 22, 2007 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Rockies
They have no clue what they are doing.
by Rox n Sox on Oct 22, 2007 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm...
by MattTheRock on Oct 22, 2007 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to earlier reports...
3 games x 50k = 150,000 (tickets)
150,000 / 500 = 300 (minutes)
300 /60 = 5 (hours)
by Gumbo on Oct 22, 2007 10:45 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not Correct
So that means 51 thousand TOTAL
by sg8335aa on Oct 22, 2007 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what assumptions get you...
Oh well, that's still 100+ minutes.
by Gumbo on Oct 22, 2007 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Season ticket holders
Hate to say it, but we're likely screwed here.
by MattTheRock on Oct 22, 2007 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Countdown screen
by free7694 on Oct 22, 2007 10:40 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I want...
by MattTheRock on Oct 22, 2007 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which Game?????
by free7694 on Oct 22, 2007 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously...
by MattTheRock on Oct 22, 2007 10:52 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO!!!
CRAP! CRAP! CRAP!
by DomCasual on Oct 22, 2007 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same thing happened to me!
by NattyIce on Oct 22, 2007 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hope?
by NattyIce on Oct 22, 2007 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
tix
by NattyIce on Oct 22, 2007 10:57 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on, countdown page...
by free7694 on Oct 22, 2007 10:57 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
It was giving me the countdown screen
by LarryB303 on Oct 22, 2007 11:02 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I have gotten the countdown page one time
by Prospector on Oct 22, 2007 11:03 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I got the countdown twice
by fatheadX on Oct 22, 2007 11:04 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I really hate the Rockies for this.
by free7694 on Oct 22, 2007 11:05 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I think if one takes Purple Row
by Rox Girl on Oct 22, 2007 11:06 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
No kidding.
Everything went smooth once I got in, up until the time that I went to submit my credit card.
Seriously, what a way to tick off your fans!
by DomCasual on Oct 22, 2007 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is where mine stopped too...
by NattyIce on Oct 22, 2007 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've gotten the hold screen to refresh correctly
Go me.
by comedian on Oct 22, 2007 11:09 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's the question...
by MattTheRock on Oct 22, 2007 11:12 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Word through the radio
by MattTheRock on Oct 22, 2007 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's one guy in Littleton
:)
by comedian on Oct 22, 2007 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to the Denver Post
by free7694 on Oct 22, 2007 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I need another reason
You say No-Maaaaaaar, I say Red SOX!
by comedian on Oct 22, 2007 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Loading Screen
by NattyIce on Oct 22, 2007 11:17 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
And the Monforts...
Of course, since everyone at the World Series will either be a season ticket holder, corporate honcho or politically connected, I guess those folks won't be too ticked off about this.
The rest of us, our fingers sore from hitting the F5 button, can only boo and hiss at our TVs.
by BroJB on Oct 22, 2007 11:17 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
How much of this was MLB and how much the Rockies?
by comedian on Oct 22, 2007 11:19 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Tix still available
The team said at 11:20 a.m. that there are still tickets available and that fans should be patient.
by Roberbola on Oct 22, 2007 11:23 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Available Tix?
by 4CornersFan on Oct 22, 2007 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not even getting
Just "cannot display" pages.
by BroJB on Oct 22, 2007 11:29 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone gotten anything lately?
by free7694 on Oct 22, 2007 11:29 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
That would be...
by BroJB on Oct 22, 2007 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
FYI, my earlier post was incorrect
I'm not getting anything now!
this is terrible. what a joke
by psprowls on Oct 22, 2007 11:30 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
So that makes the only actual person
by Rox Girl on Oct 22, 2007 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
And even that ....
by BroJB on Oct 22, 2007 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
by Franchise26 on Oct 22, 2007 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
the best way
REALLY? Someone please explain this to me.
by SpongeDan on Oct 22, 2007 11:33 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
This is surprising... how?
SpongeDan... considering EVERYONE seems to be having problems with the ticket server... I'd say that's pretty equitable. ;)
by Franchise26 on Oct 22, 2007 11:36 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
The most determined
by free7694 on Oct 22, 2007 11:37 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Five minutes until I stick a rusty fork in my eye!
by DomCasual on Oct 22, 2007 11:37 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
What the hell
or for that mater ev15
not to mention ev8
by MacFrantic on Oct 22, 2007 11:40 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL!
Why thank you, Rockies, it has been a pleasant morning. Not at all a complete waste of my time. You have improved my ticket buying experience exponentially!
by BroJB on Oct 22, 2007 11:40 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
And
by MacFrantic on Oct 22, 2007 11:40 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I've missed classes for lesser things
by SpongeDan on Oct 22, 2007 11:43 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Back to please hold caller...
by Rox Girl on Oct 22, 2007 11:41 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey look...
by MattTheRock on Oct 22, 2007 11:41 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Had 4 in a row now...
by MattTheRock on Oct 22, 2007 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would take
by MacFrantic on Oct 22, 2007 11:41 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna go eat lunch
by free7694 on Oct 22, 2007 11:42 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Ebay?
by 4CornersFan on Oct 22, 2007 11:43 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
This is different...
by Franchise26 on Oct 22, 2007 11:43 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I got tickets!!!!!!!!
by MacFrantic on Oct 22, 2007 11:43 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Paid and everything?
by MattTheRock on Oct 22, 2007 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still can't believe...
by Since1993 on Oct 22, 2007 11:44 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Which Ev is your favorite?
Although - and I don't know if this is just me - I kind of think 14 is attractive.
by DomCasual on Oct 22, 2007 11:45 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
No way, ev8 is totally the hotness.
by Rox Girl on Oct 22, 2007 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but you're a girl...
Not that there would be anything wrong with it, if it did.
by DomCasual on Oct 22, 2007 11:49 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
see, I lost my moral compass long ago in this
by Rox Girl on Oct 22, 2007 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Psych!
by MacFrantic on Oct 22, 2007 11:46 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I too am missing classes...
by tulolover on Oct 22, 2007 11:47 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I've enlisted my dad, my friend and
by Rox Girl on Oct 22, 2007 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's me, too.
Round and round I go. Where I stop, nobody knows.
I am feeling punch drunk. Or maybe it's vertigo.
by DomCasual on Oct 22, 2007 11:54 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Countdown SCREEN!
by Blake20th on Oct 22, 2007 11:47 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I think
by MacFrantic on Oct 22, 2007 11:47 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Countdown Screen
by rox in october on Oct 22, 2007 11:49 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I think EV14 is trying to kill me
by fatheadX on Oct 22, 2007 11:49 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
She told me...
Hey, don't kill the messenger!
by DomCasual on Oct 22, 2007 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
How much would
by MacFrantic on Oct 22, 2007 11:54 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
i would have thought
I realize I know the numbers....but still
by Redhawk on Oct 22, 2007 11:57 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Channel 7
by Redhawk on Oct 22, 2007 11:58 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice!
The company, Paciolan, Inc. which runs evenue.net, said it didn't know exactly what the problem was and that it was working to fix the issue.
by DomCasual on Oct 22, 2007 11:58 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Figures
by Franchise26 on Oct 22, 2007 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, I think I'm sticking with blaming
by Rox Girl on Oct 22, 2007 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have been much happier....
by jcd823 on Oct 22, 2007 11:59 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
By the way
Oh, bandwagon fans, I hope you get your tickets too. I think you should be required to either list the lineup from top to bottom or spell Tulowitzki in order to get tickets.
by MacFrantic on Oct 22, 2007 11:59 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
No luck here in DC either......
by sg8335aa on Oct 22, 2007 12:00 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I have been on for 3 hours!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by MacFrantic on Oct 22, 2007 12:01 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
hating this
by wsmith on Oct 22, 2007 12:01 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Well you can always get tickets on stub hub
by jcd823 on Oct 22, 2007 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get the Countdown screen
by Redhawk on Oct 22, 2007 12:03 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate the idea
by jcd823 on Oct 22, 2007 12:05 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Worse then that
by Redhawk on Oct 22, 2007 12:07 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Website found
by MacFrantic on Oct 22, 2007 12:06 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
by MacFrantic on Oct 22, 2007 12:09 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
There is no way
by Redhawk on Oct 22, 2007 12:09 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's play would you rather!
by MacFrantic on Oct 22, 2007 12:13 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Would I have my pants on?
by The Lodo Magic Man on Oct 22, 2007 12:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is bullshit.
by dpmay on Oct 22, 2007 12:15 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Season ticket holders
by moomacher on Oct 22, 2007 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoever is crazy enough...
by labajas on Oct 22, 2007 12:15 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
here's the problem
by sg8335aa on Oct 22, 2007 12:16 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad
thanks Monforts (I don't know if they have anything to do with this...but I blame them for everything)
by Redhawk on Oct 22, 2007 12:16 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Purple Playoff Tickets Prayer
by tulolover on Oct 22, 2007 12:17 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Amen!
by The Lodo Magic Man on Oct 22, 2007 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do I think
by Redhawk on Oct 22, 2007 12:18 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
Let's hope it's not as ludicrous as Plan A turned out to be.
by BroJB on Oct 22, 2007 12:20 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly!
Millions of people at on time....what did they think would happen?
by Redhawk on Oct 22, 2007 12:24 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
They should have done this like Taco Bell
You may only purchase your spicy ground beef World Series ticket between the hours of 2-5 p.m. on Tuesday, October 23 at participating Taco Bell restaurants. Without a map telling you which franchises. That would have been more enjoyable than this.
by Rox Girl on Oct 22, 2007 12:21 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Or
by BroJB on Oct 22, 2007 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Late news for CBS4denver.com
I'm still plugging away. Plan B is immenent, however.
by rockhead on Oct 22, 2007 12:23 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Evenue..I knew it!
by tulolover on Oct 22, 2007 12:23 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
there is always these tickest still available
by jcd823 on Oct 22, 2007 12:25 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe nobody's bought that yet
by Rox Girl on Oct 22, 2007 12:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who doesn't have a spare $18K to spend?
by Russ Oates on Oct 22, 2007 12:27 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Time
I have stuff to do....
by Redhawk on Oct 22, 2007 12:26 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
From Channel 7's website:
by BroJB on Oct 22, 2007 12:27 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
ticket sales suspended
by BroJB on Oct 22, 2007 12:28 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Suspended?
by 4CornersFan on Oct 22, 2007 12:29 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tickets online
No tickets will be sold in person.
by Redhawk on Oct 22, 2007 12:29 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
lets talk about Cook for a minute
by jcd823 on Oct 22, 2007 12:29 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Cook
by labajas on Oct 22, 2007 12:32 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if Cook blows up early
by jcd823 on Oct 22, 2007 12:33 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you have to use him
by Rox Girl on Oct 22, 2007 12:40 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Cook,
by wsmith on Oct 22, 2007 12:54 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
8.5 million hits
a Few hundred tickets sold.
by Redhawk on Oct 22, 2007 12:30 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
And probably all...
by Silverblood on Oct 22, 2007 12:32 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
But do we keep trying right now...
by tulolover on Oct 22, 2007 12:31 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
"Online most fair"
by Redhawk on Oct 22, 2007 12:32 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Fair
That might be the right way to do it, but it's not the fair way.
by Rox n Sox on Oct 22, 2007 12:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess
by Redhawk on Oct 22, 2007 12:42 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
by Rox n Sox on Oct 22, 2007 12:44 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
And what about sitting on a computer for 3-5 hours...not fair to those that have no computer or the time.
by Redhawk on Oct 22, 2007 12:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're Right
They should have used an e-mail lottery system like every other team. That would have been the closest to a "fair" system they could have done.
by Rox n Sox on Oct 22, 2007 12:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow,
by BroJB on Oct 22, 2007 12:32 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
This may
by Redhawk on Oct 22, 2007 12:36 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Cook
by tulolover on Oct 22, 2007 12:36 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
All I know is...
by jcd823 on Oct 22, 2007 12:42 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Is that 8.5 million figure I saw on an earlier post correct? Yikes... no wonder the server folded like a tent.
by Franchise26 on Oct 22, 2007 12:42 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
ESPN report
Rockies shut down computers due to overwhelming ticket demand
Associated Press
Updated: October 22, 2007, 2:50 PM ET
DENVER -- The Colorado Rockies suspended World Series ticket sales on Monday after demand overwhelmed their computer system.
"Right now we're shutting the system down ... We expect to be online at some point," club spokesman Jay Alves said.
Fans booed as Alves made the announcement outside Coors Field.
Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press
by zsiron on Oct 22, 2007 12:54 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Question
by Redhawk on Oct 22, 2007 12:54 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Saturday Night
That's not saying I won't settle for Monday if it's all that's available, though. Get me in, is all I ask.
by Rox Girl on Oct 22, 2007 1:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mine
reason for this question: I got tickets to game 3 and 5 of the NLCS...and there was no game 5.
by Redhawk on Oct 22, 2007 1:07 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know...
I did like the quote that Baseball Think Factory pulled from 7 News' online story: "Biggest debauchery in Denver Sports history."
Um... 'debauchery'... that word... I do not think it means what you think it means.
by Franchise26 on Oct 22, 2007 1:09 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure
by comedian on Oct 22, 2007 1:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to Google
orgy: a wild gathering involving excessive drinking and promiscuity ?wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
Wish I was there....
by rockhead on Oct 22, 2007 1:17 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Name the movie quote:
Princess Bride.
Exact quote: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
by DakotaBoy on Oct 22, 2007 1:22 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
This sucks...
by MattTheRock on Oct 22, 2007 1:12 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
These countdown/hold screens
Every minute, they refresh.
I still can't order tickets, but it's almost like I'm being productive.
by comedian on Oct 22, 2007 1:14 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Geeze
by Redhawk on Oct 22, 2007 1:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again, I don't think Kaz should resign.
by DakotaBoy on Oct 22, 2007 1:23 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's my idea...
I'm thinking gladitorial brawl. It's fair, and would eliminate the Red Sox quotient.
by MattTheRock on Oct 22, 2007 1:22 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Me too
by tulolover on Oct 22, 2007 1:23 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
There needs to be
by Redhawk on Oct 22, 2007 1:40 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
well this is all very exciting
by roxfan4life on Oct 22, 2007 1:42 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
ok.... there is no love
by wsmith on Oct 22, 2007 1:44 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
A few thoughts on the WS:
b) This series reminds me strongly of 2003. Powerhouse east coast team vs. scrappy 1993 expansion team, nobody gives the latter a chance, they win it in six. Oh, and Josh Beckett was on the winning side last time. Irony's a bitch this time... Seeing as the Sawx are now the Yankees, this couldn't be any more appropriate.
c) If we DO have all these purported angels flying around in the outfield, why are they going to let us down now? Who do they have to compete with, Cryogenically Frozen Ted Williams?
d) We've lost one game since the middle of September. Why are we going to lose four in a week and a half?
e) Last year a "powerhouse" American League team was picked to take down the inferior National League team in "three." We all saw how that turned out.
f) Rust, schmust. The White Sox had six days off in 2005 and swept the Astros. Seven of ten teams with five or more days off swept the Series. It's all in their heads, and they don't think it'll matter. We'll be rested, ready, and focused.
g) The Rockies have that winning mentality (AND IT TOOK THE HELL LONG ENOUGH!) Even if they lose Game 1, as they might (or might not) they're not going to collapse like a tent. It'll be a good series.
h) The Red Sox play in the AL, sure. The AL East, and that is a pair of 800-lb gorillas squashing the fragile baby chimps. They get to feast on the Blue Jays, D-Rays, and Orioles.
i) We play in the National League West, which -- hold the phone! -- is a better division top to bottom, with the exception of the Giants. Our road stats are also somewhat skewed by the fact that we play so much at Petco and Dodger Stadium, two of the most extreme pitcher's parks in the majors.
j) Was the series in June just a small sample size? Yeah, but so is the Series. It gives the guys the psychological edge to know they can win there. At that time, the Red Sox were far and away the best team in baseball, and the only other team to win a series against them at Fenway was the Yankees. Josh Beckett was still undefeated and we tagged him for six runs and ten hits in five innings. Atkins hit a grand slam over the Monster. Later on, Holliday also hit a homer over the Monster. Atkins' double was off the very top. Who's scared of that ridiculous wall?
k) We've dealt with yahoos, bozos, and morons in the opposing city before. See: Philadelphia.
l) However, it is imperative that we do not allow Coors to turn into Fenway West. If this crazy ticket situation is ever resolved, those of you who do go had better cheer twice as much.
m) Wakefield and Matsuzaka will not fare well in Coors. Nor will Manny in that cavernous left field and Ortiz attempting to play first.
I still stand by my prediction that it'll be the Rockies in five. Maybe six. Will it be easy? Hell no. That's not our style. Never a blowout or two to soothe the nerves. Will I be hiding under the desk when Fuentes faces Youkilis/Papi/Ramirez in the bottom of the eighth at a crazy Fenway? Hell yeah. Are we gonna win it? Hell yeah.
by Silverblood on Oct 22, 2007 1:45 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, now we know what Spilly does
Directs a movie about us.
This is a great poster:
http://www.denverpost.com/portlet/article/html/imageDisplay.jsp?contentItemRelationshipId=1697918
by Silverblood on Oct 22, 2007 1:50 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Dinero
by Redhawk on Oct 22, 2007 1:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Bruce Lee as Kaz,
by Rox Girl on Oct 22, 2007 1:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like that better then my idea
by Redhawk on Oct 22, 2007 2:03 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
A Cory Sullivan production?
by Rox Fan in TN on Oct 22, 2007 1:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spilly and Sully
by Rox Girl on Oct 22, 2007 2:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
During an early season AZ game...
This was about the time that I stopped lamenting my lack of ability to choose the feed via MLB Extra Innings. When we get love from opposing announcers, it can be as enjoyable as Goodman and Huson/Frazier at their best.
by Gumbo on Oct 22, 2007 2:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That must have been May 22 or 23...
Seems like yesterday, huh?
by Silverblood on Oct 22, 2007 2:15 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
It does...
Seriously, the derision this club used to receive at the hands of out of town announcers used to make it tough to watch. This year, though, nothing but respect.
by Gumbo on Oct 22, 2007 2:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That'd be
Casting Director: De Niro wants to play Helton.
Executive Producer: Yeah . . . wait, isn't he 30 years older than Helton?
CD: Uh, it's De Niro. Are you going to say no?
EP: Of course not, but--get me the makeup department.
(Enter new character)
Makeup Person: What's the problem here?
EP: Can you make De Niro look thirty years younger than he is?
MP: Get a beard on him and we shouldn't have any problem.
by Russ Oates on Oct 22, 2007 1:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is awesome...
by tulolover on Oct 22, 2007 2:00 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the whole article
http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_7244597
I love this part:
Flush with playoff share money and a feel-good script, Spilborghs landed stars from the A-list. Still no A-Rod. But A-list, nonetheless. Their presence made Spilborghs ditch his original idea of a "Blair Witch Project" - video-style, using a handheld cam during his starts in the outfield.
by Silverblood on Oct 22, 2007 2:07 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Ticket
by Redhawk on Oct 22, 2007 2:16 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
its going to go straight to the dvd
i think fankles would be a better dorn, from major league
and it is like major league cause we got willy mayes hayes in center, wild thing vaughn (uball), harris (fogg), the ower lady is kinda like the monforts, ok drew goodman is no harry doyle. its still a good story.
by roxfan4life on Oct 22, 2007 2:20 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I was in class during the little press conference.
by free7694 on Oct 22, 2007 2:24 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea
Rockies World Series Ticket Onsale
This morning the Rockies' ticketing provider Paciolan experienced a system wide outage that is impacting all of their North American customers. They are working hard to resume service as soon as possible and apologize to their customers and all fans for this impact.
by Redhawk on Oct 22, 2007 2:25 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
az cant sellout nlcs games
why did almost 9 million people get on today only 5 live in denver
by roxfan4life on Oct 22, 2007 2:27 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Er
by Silverblood on Oct 22, 2007 2:31 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
DING!
Yeah...this is a good idea
by Redhawk on Oct 22, 2007 2:32 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
the rockies dont have a fan base
by roxfan4life on Oct 22, 2007 3:35 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The 8.5 million number is misleading
by potterhead4 on Oct 22, 2007 3:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoops...
by potterhead4 on Oct 22, 2007 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like this theory
by Silverblood on Oct 22, 2007 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine by me.
by potterhead4 on Oct 22, 2007 3:39 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always know I shouldn't rise to the bait
by Silverblood on Oct 22, 2007 3:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
In your defense...
by potterhead4 on Oct 22, 2007 3:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was going to point out
Yeah, basically.
by Silverblood on Oct 22, 2007 3:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was laughing
by LarryB303 on Oct 22, 2007 4:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt 8 million unique visitors
by fatheadX on Oct 22, 2007 2:30 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Not that I'm defending anyone...
We're talking about a major player in online ticketing (Paciolan), who sold about 25% of all live events in the US last year, over 100 million tickets all told.
Also, whatever the problem was took down all North American sales, not just the Rockies. At this point, we don't know if the WS ticket debacle had anything to do with it, but my own gut tells me it was somehow related.
Ticketmaster is about to acquire Paciolan, and Ticketmaster sold about 120 million tickets last year - it's Paciolan's penetration into sporting events (pro and college) that Ticketmaster wants into. This is not some fly by night operation that offered to help the Rox move a few tickets for a cheap rate.
As for the 8.5M hits, yeah, no way these were unique visits, but how many people out there were doing what I was doing? That includes my Mom online, my wife online, my brother online, and my nephew online. Of course, I was online, and refreshing in both Firefox and IE. After a while, I was on my iPhone too. The fact that we were having problems made us refresh more, get more friends on, try from other PCs, and so on, so I feel those numbers are inflated - had we been getting tickets, we wouldn't have been generating as many hits.
I just hope that when they are ready to sell, that they announce it and give us a reasonable heads up. You talk about sticking it to the real fans, I've been checking the Post, the Rocky, 9News, News4, and Channel 7 every 15-20 minutes for updates, fearful to let my guard down that I might miss my chance.
by Gumbo on Oct 22, 2007 2:47 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
UPDATE: Fox 31 and 9news
Online today/tonight
Online tomorrow
In person at Coors Field/Dugout stores
Both said the "sentiment" was for online sales
by Redhawk on Oct 22, 2007 2:52 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Any news yet?
by wsmith on Oct 22, 2007 4:14 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
9 News
by 4CornersFan on Oct 22, 2007 4:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aaaand....
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