Monday Morning Rockpile:
Josh Beckett. He is the hottest pitcher in the world. In his postseason career, he has a 1.78 ERA. Of pitchers with at least eight career postseason starts, only Christy Mathewson and George Earnshaw, neither of whom has pitched in the last 70 years, have a lower ERA than Beckett. In this postseason, he has been dominant. He has thrown 297 pitches, 210 for strikes, in three starts. The Indians had no chance against him in two starts in the ALCS.
Tim Kurkjian goes on to say that this god Beckett might start three games against the Rockies, the presumption being that he'll win all three. Sound familiar?
"...in the NLCS, nobody comes close to Webb."
"Other than Brandon Webb, there are no elite starters..."
Does this story ever change? When does Jeff Francis evolve from quaint Canuck into a legit big game ace? Jeffrey Franchise is now 2-0 in the postseason with a 2.13 ERA, and while not quite Beckett's 5-2 with a 1.78, the guess here is that all it should take is a victory in Game One for Francis to become media's new poster-boy.
Alright. Next vent. Let's say you are trying to compare a group of hitters to determine who was best, and over about 450 PA's you had three tiers:
Group A: Let's just call them ALl Stars -are maybe five guys hitting really well, and that's who everybody pays attention to.
Group B: Next Level, these guys are okay, but flawed and clearly a step below the cream of the crop.
Group C: Well, not actually a group -one guy really- let's name him Charlie Rose because I really dig PBS. Anyway, Charlie at this 450 PA mark is probably at the bottom of the Next Level group, but still in it.
So I've made it obvious what the set-up is. The ALl Stars continue to play pretty well over their next few PA's, the Next Level guys continue to do their step below thing, but Charlie goes off the hook. Completely destroying everything in his path. Mysteriously, after about 525 PA's all but eight of these guys from all three groups get injured and their seasons are over. Charlie's one of the eight still playing, and he's still raking. Sure a few of his hits are of the bloop single variety, but his streak is really becoming DiMaggio-esque. Four more teams get season ending injuries a few PA's later. Then two more go down and suddenly it's just Charlie and one other guy from the ALl Star group, let's just call him BIG RED SLUGGER. And his name is always capitalized like that in all the papers for some reason. BRS has been able to put up some more gaudy numbers the last few games, and still looks on paper to be the better hitter overall, even though Charlie's been gaining and is clearly now better than all of the Next Level guys. Would you ignore these last 100 PA's and go back to before Charlie's streak to judge these players? Would you go back to where the others' seasons ended? Or would you take the whole enchilada preferring to get as many data points as possible for any of these guys?
So let's say the whole season for these two players' teams comes down to one final game between the two. Winner gets into the playoffs. Charlie goes four for four with a homerun or two, his team wins while BIG RED SLUGGER goes zero for four with four K's in the losing effort. BRS's season stats might still be a tad better than Charlie's even after all that. Do you still say that BIG RED SLUGGER is the MVP? What if both end up having great games and Charlie's team wins? What if they lose? Is Charlie good enough to be considered worthy of the ALl Stars' status?
I bring this up because you and I will read a lot of NL as junior varsity articles over the coming days. A lot of pundits and non-pundits alike will try to downplay and even toss aside the team's accomplishments this year and that irks me. Joe Sheehan in a chat at Baseball Prospectus the other day said that he could still argue that Detroit and Seattle (88-74, outscored 794-813, Colorado's now 97-73, outscoring the opposition 894-774) are better teams than the Rockies. Even Meredith Veira on the Today Show apparently:
That from an e-mail from Sandra Elkind. Thanks Sandra for pointing it out.
I just want the team to be given a fair look. The AL's better than the NL, fine. Point taken. Colorado's better than the NL, too, though and don't you forget it. What's sad is I don't think even a four game sweep will change anybody's opinion about us, as once again they will point to how the Red Sox just got unlucky, how it was mysterious that their lineup of sluggers was suddenly unable to hit against the Rockies' inferior pitching. Don't get me wrong, I think Boston's still had the clearly superior season, (outscored their opponents 937 to 693 so far) but Seattle and Detroit? Come on. Maybe when we win again in 2008 will these people finally recognize that maybe we actually do have a good team in Colorado.
Good luck getting tix everybody!
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As always
Rockies chance to win WS: 56.3%
Red Sox chance to win WS: 43.7%
https://baseballprospectus.com/statistics/postseasonodds.php
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My simulator is only giving the Red Sox approximately a 52% win probability in Game #1, while Vegas and Log5 are giving the Red Sox a Game #1 win probability of around 65%.
vr, Xei
left handers in Fenway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenway_Park
ICKIMORE
by Ickimore on Oct 25, 2007 4:14 AM MDT up reply actions
Dear God
Fairness to Rockies Fans = King Soopers Outlets
by DakotaBoy on Oct 22, 2007 1:17 PM MDT up reply actions
There has to be a better way than this.
I've gotten a few "please hold" messages
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 22, 2007 10:20 AM MDT reply actions
I just got my first one of those!
Onward, ever onward!
My Countdown page
This is no bueno..
by DiscoStu on Oct 22, 2007 10:21 AM MDT reply actions
same with me...
Hold Sign
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 22, 2007 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions
My wife got tickets though, already
We're trying to land some for friends now.
My wife...
Yeah, seriously
by potterhead4 on Oct 22, 2007 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions
That means...
Server's definitely choking less.
Still nothing
Nothing on the home page
1 person I know got 4 to monday...
all right countdown
9 News
No Kidding
A spokesperson has insisted that the only people having problems with the system are folks who were blocked for trying to hack into the system. So arrogant.
Whatever
by potterhead4 on Oct 22, 2007 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions
One would hope
The Rockies
They have no clue what they are doing.
Hmm...
by MattTheRock on Oct 22, 2007 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions
According to earlier reports...
3 games x 50k = 150,000 (tickets)
150,000 / 500 = 300 (minutes)
300 /60 = 5 (hours)
Not Correct
So that means 51 thousand TOTAL
That's what assumptions get you...
Oh well, that's still 100+ minutes.
Season ticket holders
Hate to say it, but we're likely screwed here.
by MattTheRock on Oct 22, 2007 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions
I want...
by MattTheRock on Oct 22, 2007 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions
Seriously...
by MattTheRock on Oct 22, 2007 10:52 AM MDT up reply actions
Same thing happened to me!
by NattyIce on Oct 22, 2007 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions
Hope?
by NattyIce on Oct 22, 2007 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions
tix
by NattyIce on Oct 22, 2007 10:57 AM MDT reply actions
It was giving me the countdown screen
I have gotten the countdown page one time
I think if one takes Purple Row
No kidding.
Everything went smooth once I got in, up until the time that I went to submit my credit card.
Seriously, what a way to tick off your fans!
That is where mine stopped too...
by NattyIce on Oct 22, 2007 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions
Here's the question...
Word through the radio
by MattTheRock on Oct 22, 2007 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions
According to the Denver Post
Like I need another reason
You say No-Maaaaaaar, I say Red SOX!
Loading Screen
by NattyIce on Oct 22, 2007 11:17 AM MDT reply actions
And the Monforts...
Of course, since everyone at the World Series will either be a season ticket holder, corporate honcho or politically connected, I guess those folks won't be too ticked off about this.
The rest of us, our fingers sore from hitting the F5 button, can only boo and hiss at our TVs.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 22, 2007 11:17 AM MDT reply actions
How much of this was MLB and how much the Rockies?
Tix still available
The team said at 11:20 a.m. that there are still tickets available and that fans should be patient.
Available Tix?
by 4CornersFan on Oct 22, 2007 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions
Not even getting
Just "cannot display" pages.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 22, 2007 11:29 AM MDT reply actions
That would be...
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 22, 2007 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions
FYI, my earlier post was incorrect
I'm not getting anything now!
this is terrible. what a joke
So that makes the only actual person
And even that ....
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 22, 2007 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah
by Franchise26 on Oct 22, 2007 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions
the best way
REALLY? Someone please explain this to me.
by SpongeDan on Oct 22, 2007 11:33 AM MDT reply actions
This is surprising... how?
SpongeDan... considering EVERYONE seems to be having problems with the ticket server... I'd say that's pretty equitable. ;)
What the hell
or for that mater ev15
not to mention ev8
LOL!
Why thank you, Rockies, it has been a pleasant morning. Not at all a complete waste of my time. You have improved my ticket buying experience exponentially!
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 22, 2007 11:40 AM MDT reply actions
And
I've missed classes for lesser things
by SpongeDan on Oct 22, 2007 11:43 AM MDT up reply actions
Hey look...
Had 4 in a row now...
by MattTheRock on Oct 22, 2007 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions
It would take
I'm gonna go eat lunch
Ebay?
by 4CornersFan on Oct 22, 2007 11:43 AM MDT reply actions
This is different...
I got tickets!!!!!!!!
Paid and everything?
by MattTheRock on Oct 22, 2007 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions
I still can't believe...
Which Ev is your favorite?
Although - and I don't know if this is just me - I kind of think 14 is attractive.
Yeah, but you're a girl...
Not that there would be anything wrong with it, if it did.
see, I lost my moral compass long ago in this
Psych!
I too am missing classes...
by tulolover on Oct 22, 2007 11:47 AM MDT reply actions
I've enlisted my dad, my friend and
That's me, too.
Round and round I go. Where I stop, nobody knows.
I am feeling punch drunk. Or maybe it's vertigo.
Countdown SCREEN!
I think
Countdown Screen
by rox in october on Oct 22, 2007 11:49 AM MDT reply actions
How much would
i would have thought
I realize I know the numbers....but still
Channel 7
Nice!
The company, Paciolan, Inc. which runs evenue.net, said it didn't know exactly what the problem was and that it was working to fix the issue.
Figures
by Franchise26 on Oct 22, 2007 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Nope, I think I'm sticking with blaming
I would have been much happier....
By the way
Oh, bandwagon fans, I hope you get your tickets too. I think you should be required to either list the lineup from top to bottom or spell Tulowitzki in order to get tickets.
No luck here in DC either......
I have been on for 3 hours!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hating this
Well you can always get tickets on stub hub
I get the Countdown screen
I hate the idea
Worse then that
Yeah
Website found
arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
There is no way
Let's play would you rather!
Would I have my pants on?
by The Lodo Magic Man on Oct 22, 2007 12:14 PM MDT up reply actions
this is bullshit.
Season ticket holders
whoever is crazy enough...
here's the problem
I'm glad
thanks Monforts (I don't know if they have anything to do with this...but I blame them for everything)
Purple Playoff Tickets Prayer
by tulolover on Oct 22, 2007 12:17 PM MDT reply actions
Amen!
by The Lodo Magic Man on Oct 22, 2007 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Why do I think
Yeah,
Let's hope it's not as ludicrous as Plan A turned out to be.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 22, 2007 12:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Exactly!
Millions of people at on time....what did they think would happen?
They should have done this like Taco Bell
You may only purchase your spicy ground beef World Series ticket between the hours of 2-5 p.m. on Tuesday, October 23 at participating Taco Bell restaurants. Without a map telling you which franchises. That would have been more enjoyable than this.
Or
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 22, 2007 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Late news for CBS4denver.com
I'm still plugging away. Plan B is immenent, however.
Evenue..I knew it!
by tulolover on Oct 22, 2007 12:23 PM MDT reply actions
there is always these tickest still available
Time
I have stuff to do....
From Channel 7's website:
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 22, 2007 12:27 PM MDT reply actions
ticket sales suspended
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 22, 2007 12:28 PM MDT reply actions
Suspended?
by 4CornersFan on Oct 22, 2007 12:29 PM MDT up reply actions
Tickets online
No tickets will be sold in person.
lets talk about Cook for a minute
Cook
And if Cook blows up early
I think you have to use him
I like Cook,
8.5 million hits
a Few hundred tickets sold.
And probably all...
by Silverblood on Oct 22, 2007 12:32 PM MDT up reply actions
But do we keep trying right now...
by tulolover on Oct 22, 2007 12:31 PM MDT reply actions
"Online most fair"
Fair
That might be the right way to do it, but it's not the fair way.
I guess
No
Well
And what about sitting on a computer for 3-5 hours...not fair to those that have no computer or the time.
You're Right
They should have used an e-mail lottery system like every other team. That would have been the closest to a "fair" system they could have done.
Wow,
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 22, 2007 12:32 PM MDT reply actions
This may
Cook
by tulolover on Oct 22, 2007 12:36 PM MDT reply actions
All I know is...
Wow
Is that 8.5 million figure I saw on an earlier post correct? Yikes... no wonder the server folded like a tent.
ESPN report
Rockies shut down computers due to overwhelming ticket demand
Associated Press
Updated: October 22, 2007, 2:50 PM ET
DENVER -- The Colorado Rockies suspended World Series ticket sales on Monday after demand overwhelmed their computer system.
"Right now we're shutting the system down ... We expect to be online at some point," club spokesman Jay Alves said.
Fans booed as Alves made the announcement outside Coors Field.
Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press
by zsiron on Oct 22, 2007 12:54 PM MDT reply actions
Question
Saturday Night
That's not saying I won't settle for Monday if it's all that's available, though. Get me in, is all I ask.
Mine
reason for this question: I got tickets to game 3 and 5 of the NLCS...and there was no game 5.
You know...
I did like the quote that Baseball Think Factory pulled from 7 News' online story: "Biggest debauchery in Denver Sports history."
Um... 'debauchery'... that word... I do not think it means what you think it means.
According to Google
orgy: a wild gathering involving excessive drinking and promiscuity ?wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
Wish I was there....
Name the movie quote:
Princess Bride.
Exact quote: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
by DakotaBoy on Oct 22, 2007 1:22 PM MDT up reply actions
This sucks...
These countdown/hold screens
Every minute, they refresh.
I still can't order tickets, but it's almost like I'm being productive.
Again, I don't think Kaz should resign.
by DakotaBoy on Oct 22, 2007 1:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Here's my idea...
I'm thinking gladitorial brawl. It's fair, and would eliminate the Red Sox quotient.
Me too
by tulolover on Oct 22, 2007 1:23 PM MDT reply actions
There needs to be
well this is all very exciting
ok.... there is no love
A few thoughts on the WS:
b) This series reminds me strongly of 2003. Powerhouse east coast team vs. scrappy 1993 expansion team, nobody gives the latter a chance, they win it in six. Oh, and Josh Beckett was on the winning side last time. Irony's a bitch this time... Seeing as the Sawx are now the Yankees, this couldn't be any more appropriate.
c) If we DO have all these purported angels flying around in the outfield, why are they going to let us down now? Who do they have to compete with, Cryogenically Frozen Ted Williams?
d) We've lost one game since the middle of September. Why are we going to lose four in a week and a half?
e) Last year a "powerhouse" American League team was picked to take down the inferior National League team in "three." We all saw how that turned out.
f) Rust, schmust. The White Sox had six days off in 2005 and swept the Astros. Seven of ten teams with five or more days off swept the Series. It's all in their heads, and they don't think it'll matter. We'll be rested, ready, and focused.
g) The Rockies have that winning mentality (AND IT TOOK THE HELL LONG ENOUGH!) Even if they lose Game 1, as they might (or might not) they're not going to collapse like a tent. It'll be a good series.
h) The Red Sox play in the AL, sure. The AL East, and that is a pair of 800-lb gorillas squashing the fragile baby chimps. They get to feast on the Blue Jays, D-Rays, and Orioles.
i) We play in the National League West, which -- hold the phone! -- is a better division top to bottom, with the exception of the Giants. Our road stats are also somewhat skewed by the fact that we play so much at Petco and Dodger Stadium, two of the most extreme pitcher's parks in the majors.
j) Was the series in June just a small sample size? Yeah, but so is the Series. It gives the guys the psychological edge to know they can win there. At that time, the Red Sox were far and away the best team in baseball, and the only other team to win a series against them at Fenway was the Yankees. Josh Beckett was still undefeated and we tagged him for six runs and ten hits in five innings. Atkins hit a grand slam over the Monster. Later on, Holliday also hit a homer over the Monster. Atkins' double was off the very top. Who's scared of that ridiculous wall?
k) We've dealt with yahoos, bozos, and morons in the opposing city before. See: Philadelphia.
l) However, it is imperative that we do not allow Coors to turn into Fenway West. If this crazy ticket situation is ever resolved, those of you who do go had better cheer twice as much.
m) Wakefield and Matsuzaka will not fare well in Coors. Nor will Manny in that cavernous left field and Ortiz attempting to play first.
I still stand by my prediction that it'll be the Rockies in five. Maybe six. Will it be easy? Hell no. That's not our style. Never a blowout or two to soothe the nerves. Will I be hiding under the desk when Fuentes faces Youkilis/Papi/Ramirez in the bottom of the eighth at a crazy Fenway? Hell yeah. Are we gonna win it? Hell yeah.
Well, now we know what Spilly does
Directs a movie about us.
This is a great poster:
http://www.denverpost.com/portlet/article/html/imageDisplay.jsp?contentItemRelationshipId=1697918
I like that better then my idea
A Cory Sullivan production?
by Rox Fan in TN on Oct 22, 2007 1:59 PM MDT up reply actions
During an early season AZ game...
This was about the time that I stopped lamenting my lack of ability to choose the feed via MLB Extra Innings. When we get love from opposing announcers, it can be as enjoyable as Goodman and Huson/Frazier at their best.
That must have been May 22 or 23...
Seems like yesterday, huh?
It does...
Seriously, the derision this club used to receive at the hands of out of town announcers used to make it tough to watch. This year, though, nothing but respect.
That'd be
Casting Director: De Niro wants to play Helton.
Executive Producer: Yeah . . . wait, isn't he 30 years older than Helton?
CD: Uh, it's De Niro. Are you going to say no?
EP: Of course not, but--get me the makeup department.
(Enter new character)
Makeup Person: What's the problem here?
EP: Can you make De Niro look thirty years younger than he is?
MP: Get a beard on him and we shouldn't have any problem.
That is awesome...
by tulolover on Oct 22, 2007 2:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Here's the whole article
http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_7244597
I love this part:
Flush with playoff share money and a feel-good script, Spilborghs landed stars from the A-list. Still no A-Rod. But A-list, nonetheless. Their presence made Spilborghs ditch his original idea of a "Blair Witch Project" - video-style, using a handheld cam during his starts in the outfield.
its going to go straight to the dvd
i think fankles would be a better dorn, from major league
and it is like major league cause we got willy mayes hayes in center, wild thing vaughn (uball), harris (fogg), the ower lady is kinda like the monforts, ok drew goodman is no harry doyle. its still a good story.
I was in class during the little press conference.
Yea
Rockies World Series Ticket Onsale
This morning the Rockies' ticketing provider Paciolan experienced a system wide outage that is impacting all of their North American customers. They are working hard to resume service as soon as possible and apologize to their customers and all fans for this impact.
az cant sellout nlcs games
why did almost 9 million people get on today only 5 live in denver
Er
DING!
Yeah...this is a good idea
the rockies dont have a fan base
The 8.5 million number is misleading
Whoops...
I like this theory
Fine by me.
I always know I shouldn't rise to the bait
In your defense...
I was going to point out
Yeah, basically.
I was laughing
I doubt 8 million unique visitors
Not that I'm defending anyone...
We're talking about a major player in online ticketing (Paciolan), who sold about 25% of all live events in the US last year, over 100 million tickets all told.
Also, whatever the problem was took down all North American sales, not just the Rockies. At this point, we don't know if the WS ticket debacle had anything to do with it, but my own gut tells me it was somehow related.
Ticketmaster is about to acquire Paciolan, and Ticketmaster sold about 120 million tickets last year - it's Paciolan's penetration into sporting events (pro and college) that Ticketmaster wants into. This is not some fly by night operation that offered to help the Rox move a few tickets for a cheap rate.
As for the 8.5M hits, yeah, no way these were unique visits, but how many people out there were doing what I was doing? That includes my Mom online, my wife online, my brother online, and my nephew online. Of course, I was online, and refreshing in both Firefox and IE. After a while, I was on my iPhone too. The fact that we were having problems made us refresh more, get more friends on, try from other PCs, and so on, so I feel those numbers are inflated - had we been getting tickets, we wouldn't have been generating as many hits.
I just hope that when they are ready to sell, that they announce it and give us a reasonable heads up. You talk about sticking it to the real fans, I've been checking the Post, the Rocky, 9News, News4, and Channel 7 every 15-20 minutes for updates, fearful to let my guard down that I might miss my chance.
UPDATE: Fox 31 and 9news
Online today/tonight
Online tomorrow
In person at Coors Field/Dugout stores
Both said the "sentiment" was for online sales
9 News
by 4CornersFan on Oct 22, 2007 4:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Aaaand....
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