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Thursday Morning Rockpile:

Alright, sorry I skipped yesterday, but it's not like there was a lot of news on the Rockies front. Of the links that have popped up in the sidebar, probably my fave is one of the several that has little to do with the Rox, the SI story about Trevor Hoffman and how he's trying to pick up the pieces after we (with some help from Tony Gwynn Jr) obliterated his psyche. It really is a good piece, though.

Speaking of the Padres, our friends at MLB Fleece Factor pointed out in the comments yesterday that Mark Prior has signed with them. It's a very wise move for Mark -if there's one place to resurrect a shattered pitching career, San Diego would be it- and a solid gamble by the Padres as well. The Rockies and Padres both seem to be going the old Earl Weaver route this offseason, eschewing the overvalued free agent class of pitchers and instead looking for bargains and potential breakout candidates in the scrap bin. San Diego, for some mysterious reason that I'm sure is unrelated to the temperate climate and pitching haven that we call PETCO, seems to be attracting the classier scraps.

Finally, there's something that I've been toying around with that I just want to find out if I should pursue it further, or if it's not really that helpful, so I'd value your opinions. The idea came to me while I was trying to figure out why many savvy Rockies fans thought so highly of Kazuo Matsui, while most intelligent fans outside of Colorado see something else entirely. I think it's a Pavlovian response Matsui would reinforce at a pretty high clip, but I wonder if in this there's actual value that might be overlooked.

What I did was look at all the plays with a leverage index of over 1.00 for Kaz at FanGraphs which would include a wide swath of plays when the game was still in doubt, both early and late. Why I filtered out the plays below this threshold is because I figure most fans will be less responsive when less is on the line. Stealing a base or getting a double in a 10-0 blowout is different than in a tie game. Next, I just looked for the success rate, regardless of how it came about. This includes reaching and advancing on errors, wild pitches, balks and passed balls since it's safe to assume Matsui's speed helped in a handful of those last year. What I found at this point was that Kaz-Mat had about a 46% safe rate on all these plays, which I'm not entirely certain how high it rates across MLB, but I know that it's got to be pretty solid. David Ortiz, for instance, is safe about 47% of the time in these situations. By eyeballing the rest of the Rockies, Matt Holliday might have a higher success rate, but I think he's the only one. Helton's probably in that mid forties range, but nobody else looks all that close.

What I think I'd want to do next, since I guess I'm trying to create a measure to predict how people would respond to a given player above his actual value, is give more weight to homeruns and other extra-base hits -which would benefit Papi and Matt- while penalizing double plays and caught stealings -which would benefit Kaz, who hit into zero DP's and was 20/23 in the SB department in these situations last season. Next, I'd try and separate the stat into two numbers, one with park effects taken into account, and one without, to get a national and local number. Eventually, for the national number I'd actually also want to give more weight to performances in TBS/Fox/ESPN broadcast games and those that start before 7:30 p.m. Eastern Time, as they'd be more likely to get  the widest exposure on the nightly news highlight reels as well as on Baseball Tonight or Sportscenter.

I think the numbers -when measured against more comprehensive value stats- would be helpful to find out local heroes that the mainstream and Internet media haven't caught onto, perhaps players that are overrated via overexposure, and it could be a decent predictor for what players will generate bidding wars in free agency.

Anyway, I've got to get back to work.

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Kaz and Stats
I'm not a stat head person.  I find that stats and numbers can be manipulated to show almost any conclusion the person using the stats wants to show, wither that agenda is consciously or unconsciously planned. But, I'm coming around to the fact that stats can sometimes show in a quantitative way, what baseball fans see and understand instinctively, even it that is something we just can't quite put a finger on.

Which brings us to Kaz Matsui and his impact, and admiration from the Rockies fans.  We saw something.  I'm not sure what.  He made big plays when we needed them.  He sparked other players.  But the other part was fans outside of Colorado didn't see Kaz the same  way....why?  Some of his stat lines, the basic year long stuff are good, but not any WOW factor.  But fans outside of Rockies fans, just don't see Kaz and the Rockies last year.  We weren't on ESPN or Baseball Tonight.  Their only exposure to Matsui was when he was with the Mets, and he stunk the place up.    Which seems to lead to looking at last year's stats from a preconcieved spot. That is, Matsui sucks, and with only good stats for one year while playing in Colorado where balls fly all-around (yeah, another bad preconception) you get, Kaz isn't that good.

But we fans saw something else.  I'm not sure it's worth the effort to pursue it from a stat position (lots of unpaid work, never sure that's worth while), but it would be interesting if there were stats that backed up what we saw.

PS: His hustle double on a slow dribbler to LF against the Astros to spark a late inning come from several runs down win was one of the greatest baseball moments I've ever seen. Stats or no stats.

2006 TIME magazine "Person of the Year"

by Redhawk on Dec 27, 2007 11:05 AM MST reply actions  

I agree
I didn't necessarily like Kaz as our everyday second baseman, but he was an upgrade over the others we had (Carroll/Barmes) there.  My love for Kaz, though, comes from the fact that he seemed to spark the rest of the team.  If Kaz hadn't managed to find the hole in the bottom of the 13th on 10/1, we'd most likely be talking about the Phillies or D'Backs with the NL Pennant.  Tulo and Holliday needed the protection of having one person on base, and that confidence seemed to just surge through the rest of the lineup.

That's what I'm most concerned about next season, that with WillyT at the top of our lineup again, we'll have lost our spark.  You can't ignite a team by bunting down the 3rd base line into an easy GO.

by oo_nrb on Dec 27, 2007 2:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Matsui definitely was an asset
But Rockies management put a reasonable value on that asset, and Houston went far above it.

His leadoff double against San Diego in the 13th was vital, of course. But the next play, Tulo's double, has rarely been commented on.  In a gutsy move, he barely beat the throw at second. He was clearly safe, but it was thisclose.  Had he been out...well, let's not go there!

With the Rox looking at everyone except Ryne Sandberg as a veteran backup at second, it appears they're not entirely satisfied with a Nix/Barmes combo.

 

by alexcolfax on Dec 27, 2007 2:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Perception vs. Reality
Willy's OBP was significantly higher than Kaz's in 2007.  And they were equally bad at drawing walks.  I know Willy was crappy in the World Series, but look at his whole body of work instead of four miserable games.  We're not going to miss Kaz nearly as much as you imply.
rockies in october.

by LarryB303 on Dec 28, 2007 9:16 PM MST up reply actions  

another thing...
about Kaz.  I had the impression that the Rockies did much better with him in the lineup--possibly because his replacements were so bad.  I did a quick check and found that the Rockies were 56-40 in games where he had multiple ABs, 34-33 in games he didn't.  It could be sensed intuitively by the average fan that their team has a tendency to win with a certain player in the lineup--I know I did.

by DenverBears on Dec 27, 2007 11:35 AM MST reply actions  

That could
be Kaz's abilities. Or it could be the fact that, like most teams, the Rockies only had one major-league level second basemen. When that player goes out, a worse player (Jamey Carroll) goes in.
The numbers say Kaz is probably a below average-average hitter. His biggest attribute was that he didn't fuck up all the time.
Not fucking up isn't worth his salary.

by arosenthal on Dec 27, 2007 1:00 PM MST up reply actions  

completely agree with you....
(which is why I said it probably reflects his replacements).  It does suggest, however, that the Rockies should be serious about finding an adequate replacement for him.  Barmes certainly hasn't looked like the answer and I'm not convinced Nix is ready yet (Barmes out hit him in the Springs last year).

by DenverBears on Dec 27, 2007 1:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Absolutely....
But with payroll as tight as it is (and it should be, despite the World Series run), it's difficult to justify spending more than a couple million on a second baseman.

by arosenthal on Dec 27, 2007 5:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Maybe it's just me
But the SI article on Hoffman was the final insult to the Rockies' award-less off season. Seems to me that making Hoffman's collapse a bigger MLB year-in-review story than the Rox run to the playoffs and the pennant is yet another example of what it's like to live in the forgotten time zone.

Dunno. But it seems like yet another "excuse" for our boys' success.

2007 NL Champions, baby!

by rockhead on Dec 27, 2007 6:48 PM MST reply actions  

Naturally,
It couldn't have been that the Rockies (who?) just played really well last year and won the pennant.  It had to be some known quantity like Hoffman breaking down.  Yeah, that explains it all.  

by Since1993 on Dec 27, 2007 11:38 PM MST up reply actions  

well....
no matter how you look at it, Hoffman's breakdown was essential.  The Rockies had no role in making him give up those runs to the Brewers.

by DenverBears on Dec 28, 2007 7:35 AM MST up reply actions  

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