Second Base 2008: Calling back Kaz-Mat?
The moment I read the Ken Rosenthal column that malakian linked to last night, I figured that a certain faction of Rockies fans would key in on one particular phrase:
Not even a qualifier, a "likely" or "probably" or something. Nope, he just goes out and says that Matsui will move out of the Rockies' price range. Just for kicks, here are the 2007 salaries (from Cot's Baseball Contracts) of the five projected NL West 2nd Basemen:
Arizona: Orlando Hudson, $3.9 million
Colorado: Kaz Matsui, $1.5 million (plus $950,000 in incentives)
Los Angeles: Jeff Kent, $11.5 million
San Diego: Marcus Giles, $3.25 million
San Francisco: Ray Durham, $7 million
So right now, even if Matsui makes all his incentive bonuses, the Rockies are the most frugal club in the division at second base by around $800,000. Next season, Arizona figures to be the lowest on the salary scale, with Alberto Callaspo making near the league minimum. Los Angeles could also be in that minimum salary category if they choose to use Blake DeWitt, but when was the last time the Dodgers did something for cheap that they could overpay by millions for? Anyway, let's look at a couple of projections:
Callaspo: .283/.332/.401/1.90
Hudson: .273/.333/.399/3.01
Matsui: .259/.307/.336/0.70
Barmes: .267/.305/.406/4.00
Carroll: .280/.345/.342/1.35
Quintanilla: .261/.312/.369/2.49
Herrera: .262/.317/.355/
DeWitt: .228/.282/.348/1.21
Kent: .273/.362/.484/
Giles: .254/.329/.360/2.41
Durham: .276/.348/.431/3.10
So what is that? That, my friends, is the power of the Hardball Times 2007 Preview.., with a little help from a BP subscription. Anyway most of the above projections are from the THT preview for the 2008 season. The only exceptions are for Kent and Herrera, where there was no projection in the THT book, so I went by the good old standby, PECOTA.
At any rate, the first three numbers are your standard AVG/OBP/SLG, but the last one is the projected wins above replacement if the player has a breakout year (75 percentile) in 2008. That four wins is why the Rockies are wanting to keep Barmes, and why I might change my mind about wanting to trade him. That's projected at shortstop, where he would have more value defensively, but you can probably figure his value at second in the event of a breakout would still be high enough to surpass that of all but Hudson, Durham and Kent.
I included Quintanilla and Herrera, however, to show that Barmes isn't the only possible plus second baseman on hand. Matsui, on the other hand, could be in serious jeopardy of staying in stateside baseball if he doesn't have a rebound season, and even then is in a declining arc that makes a big contract for 2008 a bad gamble to take given the other talent we'd have on hand. If any of the three step up for 2008 (and chances are at least one will) we'll be competitive with our divisional peers and won't have to pay millions to do so.
So while I sincerely hope Rosenthal was wrong about us not being able to afford renewing Matsui, I'm certainly not advocating that we go ahead and extend him, even if he does exceed projections.
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Oops, did I leave Nix out?
by Rox Girl on
Mar 19, 2007 12:46 PM MDT
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I always love it
by Rox Fan in TN on
Mar 19, 2007 2:31 PM MDT
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Right,
by MattTheRock on
Mar 19, 2007 3:07 PM MDT
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Edit...
by MattTheRock on
Mar 19, 2007 3:08 PM MDT
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I think
But heck, let's get this season started first. Seems like Spring Training is taking forever. Bring on Opening Day!
by jlikesrockies on
Mar 19, 2007 3:18 PM MDT
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Regarding Barmes
I'm not saying we should ship him out at once, but this team needs quite a bit of breaks to win the division, and have few safety nets for this season, so what's the difference if we lose one more? If Florida Kansas City or Chicago dangles a solid non-40 B level player, it would be worth looking into.
by David OhNo on
Mar 19, 2007 3:17 PM MDT
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I'm just feeding the hype...
The main points I actually took from the Rosenthal piece:
- Clint Barmes is being sought by other teams.
- O'Dowd is holding out in a similar fashion to what he did with Jennings. It's the Boras school of negotiation: Give an astronomical asking price then shut up and wait. Eventually the other side(s) will either cave, up their offer to some middle point, or remain firm.
- I don't believe that Clint's actually off the market, but if the offers for him are too weak, than he could be pulled from it completely. O'Dowd gives the 2008 bid for second as plausible leverage for the Rockies.
by Rox Girl on
Mar 19, 2007 3:41 PM MDT
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Position of need...
by MattTheRock on
Mar 19, 2007 5:30 PM MDT
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I was thinking more along the lines of
by David OhNo on
Mar 19, 2007 5:40 PM MDT
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New Rumor
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Rockies-aiming-to-improve-rotation?urn=mlb,26870
From Fox Sports, saying the Rockies are shopping Kim.
And the Rox are interested in Mark Hendrickson of the Dodgers.
Garbage for Garbage, BUT their Garbage is a Lefty. If he'll move to the bull pen and beat out Martin and Gallo...then YEA! go for it!
by Redhawk on
Mar 19, 2007 5:31 PM MDT
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Sorry....old news
Sorry again
by Redhawk on
Mar 19, 2007 5:32 PM MDT
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Matsui
There's no shortage of prospective bats. If none step up during the season, maybe September will be infielder-tryout month.
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by scoutingbook on
Mar 22, 2007 3:18 AM MDT
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