Wednesday Morning Rockpile:
So, the Mets got Johan Santana for what appears to me (and others) to be easily a less valuable package of prospects than the D-backs gave up for Danny Haren, or that the Mariners were rumored to be giving up for Erik Bedard before that whole thing blew up over the weekend. Go figure. That said, while the deal puts the Mets out in front of the NL East right now, they're in a similar boat to the D-backs in that their farm will have to be rebuilt quickly to maintain their dominance.
This does put more pressure on the Rockies own playoff ambitions for 2008, as being in the Wild Card chase is much less certain at this point, particularly when combined with less heralded moves around the NL such as the Phillies acquisition of Pedro Feliz. The Phils weren't getting any offense from their third basemen last season anyway, so upgrading the defense by as much as Feliz does definitely helps them. We've now seen three of the four other teams in that 88-90 win tier make upgrades this offseason, two significantly, as well as three of the four (Dodgers, Cubs, Brewers) in the 82-85 win range make enough upgrades to be considered real threats. I don't buy the Braves right now and I believe that the Padres are going to be heading south this season. Our own chances right now seem to hinge on keeping the Dodgers at bay and hoping that the Diamondbacks players disappoint while ours don't. I think we've got an okay shot at those things happening but we've still got to be considered underdogs right now. I would have loved to see a more certain upgrade to our team this winter to help us keep up the pace for 2008, and I hope the gamble to sacrifice that for even better shots in 2009 and beyond pays off.
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When was the last time a team, any team, found success by targeting a player solely for his speed and no other reason? Otis Nixon with the Braves in the nineties maybe? I'm drawing a blank here. So enter Scott Podsednik, who wants a pinch runner job and seems as much a disaster in the making as Steve Finley was at this time last year. Pods' career line against RHP's is .277/.341/.384. Willy Taveras has put up .300/.343/.350 and Ryan Spilborghs' .275/.332/.440. So the left handed Podsednik isn't markedly better than the right handed options -or Cory Sullivan for that matter- and yet you know Clint Hurdle will be tempted to keep him on the roster and use him instead because of the bling on his finger and the fleet in his foot. Speed's a great luxury to have. We all love watching players who have that added dimension to their game, but the moment you start structuring your player evaluation philosophy around it, you've taken a dangerous step toward the land of the Also-Rans, and there are Giants there. Speed should be a bonus you get with players who have other skills, not what you look for in acquiring them.
You know by now that I'm big on building the depth of the ballclub. The more arms we can get the better as long as they're attached to the shoulder somehow. Catchers woohoo- everybody needs lots of catchers. I'm even fine in targeting other legit defensive specialists up the middle as long as you have legit bats in front of them. Unfortunately that's not what we did here. Despite his speed, Scott's worse defensively in center than Sullivan or Spilborghs. Worse in left than Matt Holliday. Podsednik just doesn't qualify in any category that really matters though, he's not good defensively, he's less than mediocre as a hitter, and even his CS rate is too high. Even as a AAA emergency filler this looks like a bad decision. I'm sorry, there's simply no way I can look favorably on this move and hope the team comes to its senses by early March in letting him walk.
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agree with you....
by DenverBears on Jan 30, 2008 8:14 AM MST 0 recs
Podsednik?
As far as the last time a player had an impact as just a pinch runner: Herb Washington 74 Oakland A's but the loss of the bench spot, and the fact when he came into pinch run, it had to be the last inning...or you had to use ANOTHER player to go in the field, really hurt. That and when he came in everyone knew he was going to run...that was his job. But that was the AL which substitutes a lot less because of the DH. I can't see it working in the NL now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herb_Washington
by Redhawk on Jan 30, 2008 8:41 AM MST 0 recs
in the minority here..
by InToddwetrust on Jan 30, 2008 9:06 AM MST 0 recs
Okay, so I definitely exaggerated about Podsednik
Corey Patterson would be perfect for this role, but with Scott Boras as his agent and the idea in their heads that he's still starter worthy, signing him might not be that easy.
Any others that fit this profile that might be available? Podsednik's recent teammate Jerry Owens for instance? I just think there would have to be better options out there.
by Rox Girl on Jan 30, 2008 10:29 AM MST 0 recs
I'd like Gathright
by MattTheRock on
Jan 30, 2008 10:42 AM MST
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I agree
I also like Gathright as a bench player. I also like Owens over Pods.
by Redhawk on
Jan 30, 2008 11:49 AM MST
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comments from Denver SABR meeting
RoxGirl mentions every team needs lots of catchers. The Rockies think Edwin Bellorin has a chance to be the backup to Yorvit allowing Ianetta to catch full time in AAA this season. Bellorin has "some of the same intangibles" as Yorvit according to Bridich. In the minors "Mike McKenry keeps getting better and better - he's working his butt off"
The Rockies think Willie Tavaras can steal 70 bases this year. They want Willie to be more aggressive in stealing 3rd base.
Jaxon Nix was drafted as an "offensive second baseman", a Jeff Kent type with 20+ home run potential, who needed to work on his defense. Now the scouting reports on Nix have flip flopped - a superb defender with questions about his bat. Bridich said Carney Lansford (rockies minor league coach, now with the Giants) really worked with Nix at the plate last year and the team is hopeful Nix's offense will come around.
The team believes Manny Corpus is an all star in the making, but he has never struggled at the major league level. Those struggles will come as they do for every closer, so that's why they want a vet like Fuentes backing him up (even at Fuentes high salary)
Reliever Vizcaino is younger and more durable than the departed Hawkins. Hawkins throws harder but only has one pitch (the fastball), while Vizcaino has more than one pitch.
by titan on Jan 30, 2008 10:31 AM MST 0 recs
Ianetta in AAA???
by MattTheRock on
Jan 30, 2008 10:35 AM MST
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Interesting stuff
Rockies continue to sell/push Nix. I'm still not buying. Losing Kaz is a real downgrade I think.
Iannetta to AAA is interesting..not shocking. That means they think Iannetta has a future....that he has a bat which needs swings to develop. There is a point where a player is too old to be developed, and he's just a back up bench guy giving what ever he can get.
by Redhawk on
Jan 30, 2008 11:52 AM MST
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Bedard
Any chance the Rockies will pursue Bedard now that the deal with the M's fell through? If so, what would be an acceptable offer from a Rockie's fan standpoint?
by Fos on Jan 30, 2008 10:47 AM MST 0 recs
Bedard
by LarryB303 on
Jan 30, 2008 12:26 PM MST
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Agreed...
I think a Bedard makes more sense if it looks like we won't be able to sign Holliday long-term.....OR....if we didn't already have Ulbaldo, Morales and Reynolds ready to join Francis at the top of our rotation.
If the Rockies played in New York, it would be a simple answer. However, considering that our payroll needs to remain a bit closer to the middle of the pack, I'm just not sure a Bedard (or Santana for that matter) trade would be something to pursue.
If Helton had 2 fewer years left on his contract and Holliday had about 2 fewer years of service time.....we might be singing a much different tune.
by sg8335aa on
Jan 30, 2008 3:04 PM MST
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Re: Sabean's letter to Giant's fans
So, Rowand embodies "pitching, speed and defense"? Who proof-reads the Giants form letters anyway?
by patnkeren on Jan 30, 2008 5:06 PM MST 0 recs
If it's Sabean
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Jan 30, 2008 5:34 PM MST
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