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Alright, to get things started, I'm going to break our prospects into some sub-categories that should help when you consider where to place them:

Consensus Blue Chip Talent:

These are the five players that everybody seems to feel are capable of having a significant impact at the MLB level in starting roles:

Franklin Morales
Ian Stewart
Hector Gomez
Chris Nelson
Dexter Fowler

Next I'm going to look at our right handed pitchers:

Refined Right-handed Starting Pitching
The first name on this list possibly should be included in the group above. I would, personally consider him that kind of talent and Baseball America apparently does as well, but I'm trying to see what a variety of sources say, and he still seems to be underrated by many. The rest have the polish to contribute to the MLB team in the next couple of seasons, but for the two 2007 draftees it would also take some atypically aggressive promotion by the Rockies for this to be the case.

Greg Reynolds
Brandon Hynick
Cory Riordan
Alan Johnson
Bruce Billings
Ching Lung Lo

Raw Right Handed Starting Pitching
Most of these guys will have higher upsides than the lower guys in the category just above, but might be riskier plays to advance through the system and have ETA's of 2010 or later.

Esmil Rogers
Chaz Roe
Aneury Rodriguez
Jhoulys Chacin
Parker Frazier
Robinson Fabian

Injury Marred but high ceilinged Right handed Starting Pitching

Shane Lindsay
Josh Sullivan
Samuel Deduno

Eye Popping Late Inning Relievers

This is very much a strength in the system, I'll rate the top handful of them in what seems to be my current mental placement.

Casey Weathers
Pedro Strop
Juan Morillo
Ryan Speier (is he still eligible? I haven't checked)
Will Harris
Darren Clarke
David Patton

Andrew Johnston took a severe hit this past season, but keep an eye on basically the entire Asheville bullpen from 2007, as well as some of the guys at Tri-City and Casper like Connor Graham and Riquy De Los Santos. I don't know if I'd put either of the latter in my top thirty, yet, but I wouldn't fault those that are impressed by the shiny newness of them.

Left handed pitching is weaker and boils down to about six or seven names right now, including Morales. I think some people could make a viable argument for Keith Weiser as high as the high teens in the overall list, but given our strengths in other areas and the lack of a high ceiling among these, I could see some people leaving all six of the following off of the top thirty list altogether:

Other Left handed starters:

Keith Weiser
Xavier Cedeno
Brandon Durden

Left handed relievers

Josh Newman
Adam Bright
Isaiah Froneberger

Position Players

Multi-Faceted Position Players

While not five tool talents, you aren't going to get many scouts who don't like the potential that they see with these guys. All are good defenders, all can acquit themselves well at the plate and on the basepaths. While I can see keeping the two infielders in the twenty to thirty range due to different questions surrounding their legitimacy (Nix has just decided to perform this past season, Velazquez is still far away) I think all four should be in the top thirty:

Seth Smith
Brian Rike
Jayson Nix
Helder Velazquez

The next four groups have players that are more one dimensional right now.

The Sluggers:
Obviously the first name on this list has separated himself from the rest, and probably should be the only one included on our consensus top thirty list.

Joe Koshansky
Sean Barker
Joe Gaetti
Cole Garner
David Christensen

The Hitters
These guys don't figure to be big time power producers, but all have solid gap hitting swings. Davis is a catcher, and the only one of this profile to play a premium position, so perhaps I should put him higher, but his debut at Tri-City has brought some doubt to my mind.

Michael Paulk
Jeff Kindel
Lars Davis
Matt Miller
Christian Colonel
Jeff Cunningham

The Speedsters
Defensive questions hold both these players back a bit, I've put them in my preferred order, but it's obviously open to interpretation or debate. Both seem like legit top thirty candidates.

Eric Young Jr.
Corey Wimberly

Quality Defensive Infielders with a little offensive upside:

Jonathan Herrera
Zack Murry
Carlos Martinez

Catching Depth (not including the guy in the next category):

Edwin Bellorin
Neil Wilson

Finally, these two:

They Weren't Supposed to be this good, but now that they are, we won't complain:

Both of these premium defensive players weren't projected to show the kind of offense that they have in their minor league careers to date, so there's some doubt that they can continue to perform as well at higher levels, but they definitely merit strong consideration for the top twenty in our lists.

Michael McKenry
Daniel Mayora

Putting it all together:
Rox Girl's pre-discussion top 30

  1. Franklin Morales
  2. Hector Gomez
  3. Ian Stewart
  4. Dexter Fowler
  5. Chris Nelson
  6. Greg Reynolds
  7. Casey Weathers
  8. Seth Smith
  9. Brandon Hynick
  10. Brian Rike
  11. Pedro Strop
  12. Joe Koshansky
  13. Michael McKenry (way too aggressive, I know)
  14. Esmil Rogers
  15. Chaz Roe
  16. Juan Morillo
  17. Helder Velazquez
  18. Jhoulys Chacin
  19. Daniel Mayora
  20. Aneury Rodriguez
  21. Keith Weiser
  22. Jayson Nix
  23. Josh Newman
  24. Shane Lindsay
  25. Eric Young Jr.
  26. Jonathan Herrera
  27. Ryan Speier
  28. Zack Murry
  29. Corey Wimberly
  30. Michael Paulk
Update [2007-12-24 22:0:27 by Rox Girl]:

I made a couple of changes, namely, I forgot about Aneury Rodriguez for some reason when I made my initial list, so he's now at number 20, while discussion has led me to downgrade Speier considerably even though I'm going to leave him on the list. Xavier Cedeno and Cory Riordan are the two outside looking in right now.

Merry Christmas.